the 50GB on each side disks wont exist...100GB on each will

[Duder]

According to a popular science article I red about a year ago the thing that will replace DVD as the new Storage median is clear plastic and the size of a mini CD/DVD 100GB on each side using the blue laser tech that has finally been perfected... and WHY doesnt apple create vaccums in the computer so they can increase CD/DVD/HD RPM by 3000x imagine being able to write a 5 Exabytes (which is every word that everyone has ever spoken) in 30 days compared to 4000 billion years

[idkew]

you could look at is as you never have to wait for optical media anymore. use it as a hard drive.....

[MacAztec]

Originally posted by Duder
and WHY doesnt apple create vaccums in the computer so they can increase CD/DVD/HD RPM by 3000x imagine being able to write a 5 Exabytes (which is every word that everyone has ever spoken) in 30 days compared to 4000 billion years

Ummm...thats like me asking WHY can't I overclock my G4 to 1.4GHz and make it work.

The answer? Technology is not ready for it to happen.

[AlphaTech]

Duder, what the ***** are you on??? Whatever it is, stop using it before you fry your two remaining living brain cells.

You sound like one of the butt-******** that have their car stereos so loud that you can feel the base from 1/4 mile away (deaf, dumb ********).

[MacAztec]

Bringin the heat!

Now, let me put on my gear...


And where is that ammunition we talked about? ;)

[AlphaTech]

muahahahahahahaaaa...considering how the mook hasn't posted a reply, maybe it's gotten a bit smarter... nahhhh that can't be :D

[teabgs]

Duder...you best watch out before Alpha and his gang come ridin their hogs up to get ya!

Hey, while we're asing these kind of questions.......

Why do we still use fuels that are hazardous to the environment when the technology exists to generate clean, and unlimited fuel?

[MacAztec]

Originally posted by teabgs
Why do we still use fuels that are hazardous to the environment when the technology exists to generate clean, and unlimited fuel?

One word: Money

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by MacAztec


One word: Money

And big oil... they won't let it happen... too much is riding on oil production.

How about why do we buy oil from OPEC when we have enough oil produced here in the US to cover our needs??

[teabgs]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


And big oil... they won't let it happen... too much is riding on oil production.

How about why do we buy oil from OPEC when we have enough oil produced here in the US to cover our needs??

MacAztec....Where are you.....??? I know you got the answer to this one....

[MacAztec]

I'd have to agree with AlphaTech. Its just all the "enviroMENTALists" believe that we are dangering the enviroment if we dig for oil.

Its such bull crap. I mean, if they really took the time to SURVEY the AREA, and not the eco-system, we would have sufficient oil.

[Pelorus]

Originally posted by MacAztec
I'd have to agree with AlphaTech. Its just all the "enviroMENTALists" believe that we are dangering the enviroment if we dig for oil.

Heh. It's not really the *digging* that is the problem but the burning and spewing the fumes out. Don't agree? Suck on your exhaust tailpipe for a few minutes.

The real reason to cut down on oil digging and usage is that it's running out. In the near future we may want it for important things due to its scarcity and not just so you can rev your 6 litre at the traffic lights.

Fuel cell based laptops were recently announced in Japan. Surprise surprise.

[teabgs]

Originally posted by Pelorus


Fuel cell based laptops were recently announced in Japan. Surprise surprise.

really? I wasnt aware of that. Do you have a link to an article or soemthing that I can read about this.....?

And MacAztec, I'm gonna have to disagree with you here buddy....burning oil isnt good. Also, when tankers spill its very bad fo rthe environment....

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by teabgs
And MacAztec, I'm gonna have to disagree with you here buddy....burning oil isnt good. Also, when tankers spill its very bad fo rthe environment....

Thing is, if we didn't get oil from overseas we wouldn't need to use tankers. Between the Alaska pipeline and the refineries in the US, we could ship the stuff all over land. If's a hell of a lot easier to clean up a tanker that flips on the highway then a tanker that spills in the ocean. They could also run pipelines from the Texas oil fields, as well as the others all over the US, to the refineries so that all we would really need to ship is the finished fuel.

When they can produce an alternate fuel engine with the same power/performance as one run on gas, I will consider it. Until then, I will use the vehicles that I have.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
When they can produce an alternate fuel engine with the same power/performance as one run on gas, I will consider it. Until then, I will use the vehicles that I have.

which is exactly why we are seeing more hybrid vehicles being put out by manufacturers...trying to break that barrior and eventually get to a point where we have vehicles that run on something other than fuel...

even if they run half fuel & half oxygen or whatever...it's a big step towards alleviating the problem...

[AlphaTech]

Can't see them doing the hybrid for motorcycles, at least not with Harley's. :D Which is all I care about at this point... About to bring mine up for it's first service, close to the 1000 mile mark, so in it goes. I will have it back on Saturday, which will be a nice day. Tomorrow they are talking rain, so no biggie. Of course, since I have this week off, I've only had one or two good days (Monday and now today). Figures. Well, I am taking a few around Father's day, so I hope the weather is nice then.

[SPG]

I just posted this on another thread, but thought since this is just about the only thing on topic in this BS thread, somebody might want to read it here...

DVD-compatible optical disk hits 100 Gbytes


By Mike Clendenin

EE Times
May 24, 2002 (12:30 p.m. EST)


TAIPEI, Taiwan ˜ Forget about 100-gigabyte portable hard drives ˜ too bulky.
A physics professor at a leading Taiwanese university has led a group of
researchers in developing a recordable optical disk capable of packing in
100 Gbytes of data and slipping into a pants pocket.

That's about 30,000 of your favorite songs, or enough tunes to toe-tap to
for a few months.




The disk is compatible with today's CD and DVD technology, running off the
same red laser pick-up heads used in a typical disk player. "That's the most
attractive part of this technology," said Wang Shyh-Yeu, director of
research at Ritek Corp., a disk maker that co-funded the study and will
likely commercialize the disk in 2005 or 2006.

To achieve the 100-Gbyte density target, the research team at National
Taiwan University, led by professor Tsai Din Ping, used near-field optics ˜
where the distance used for the interaction of the laser and media is
shorter than the wavelength of light used to make the recording marks on the
disk.

Two layers were added to the disk to achieve the near-field effect. The
first is a transparent dielectric spacing layer, about 20 nanometers to 40
nanometers thick, which keeps the distance constant in the near field. The
other layer is an active layer, which will interact with the focus point of
the laser beam, generate the near-field effect and then transfer the mark to
the recording layer.

Smaller mark


Using a standard sized disk, 12 centimeters in diameter, the researchers
drew down the mark size to about 100 nm, less than about 400 nm for today's
DVDs and 900 nm for CDs. "Even with such a small mark size, we can still
have about 35 dB on the readout signal," Tsai said. "If you check your DVD
disk today, the readout range is about the same, from 30 dB to 40 dB. So
that's a very good result because the mark size is much smaller than 400 nm
but the carrier-to-noise ratio is still very good. That's not easy."

Japanese companies and university researchers have also been developing
high-density prototypes. Matsu****a Electric Industrial Co. Ltd. developed a
dual-layer rewritable optical disk last year that could store 50 Gbytes per
side, enough for four hours of high-definition movies. It used violet
lasers, however, not red lasers.

Tsai said his prototype is ready to hit the market today, but Wang doubts
the market is ready. The disk may be capable of recording dozens of Star
Trek episodes, but there aren't any drives available to utilize it and no
one is working on one. Such systems would also require a new chip set.
"Today's technology still has a ways to go before this is needed," Wang
said.

In the meantime, Wang said Ritek should work on polishing the
signal-to-noise characteristics on disks in the 40-Gbyte to 60-Gbyte range,
which would still far outstrip today's 9.4-Gbyte maximum capacity for a
dual-sided, dual-layer DVDs. Even next-generation proposals, such as Blu-ray
DVDs, top out at about 27 Gbytes. Besides, they use pricier technology ˜
they are based on blue lasers ˜ that is not backward compatible with today's
red laser standard. "The next two years will be very important for this
technology," Wang said. "If we can get through the big breakthroughs we
need, this will be a threat to Blu-ray."

During that time, however, Tsai will be prodding his team to push the limits
of density even further. Ritek and Taiwan's National Science Council are
funding the research until February 2003 with $660,000 ˜ the project started
in March 2000. "Our goal is to make an even smaller mark size that will
still be stable within the near field. To do this, we will have to find a
nanostructure to make this happen in a much easier way," Tsai said.

"One hundred gigabytes is not the limit; it is just the beginning. Our goal
is terabit," he said.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by SPG
"One hundred gigabytes is not the limit; it is just the beginning. Our goal
is terabit," he said.

Ummmm, do the math.. one terabit (he did say BIT) is the same as 128GB (giga-BYTE). I hope people remember that one Byte has eight BITs in it.

With his above statement, 100GB is damned close to the max that they are projecting.

[boymerang]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Ummmm, do the math.. one terabit (he did say BIT) is the same as 128GB (giga-BYTE). I hope people remember that one Byte has eight BITs in it.

With his above statement, 100GB is damned close to the max that they are projecting.

Since it was likely a spoken / transcribed quote...my guess would be the reporter didn't know the difference, and just substituted terabit for terabyte.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by boymerang


Since it was likely a spoken / transcribed quote...my guess would be the reporter didn't know the difference, and just substituted terabit for terabyte.

IF the reporter did that, then the editor should have caught the error... they don't even sound all that much alike (past the tera part).

[boymerang]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


IF the reporter did that, then the editor should have caught the error... they don't even sound all that much alike (past the tera part).

really. given the wording of the quote, the nature of the article, and bombast surrounding the technology - does it really make sense? terabit and terabyte are two letters off from one another, and *look* pretty close to one another. i'd wager Tsai said 'terabyte', the reporter heard 'terabyte' but when he transcribed the article or whatever, mistakeningly wrote terabit, probably thinking it was no big deal - your average reader probably thinks the two terms are interchangable. larger and more glaring errors have slipped past eager editor's eyes. which do you *really* think is more likely?

i appreciate that you're trying to point out the potential marketing-speak inherant in the article...but i think you're being a little too sensitive to it. i *did* enjoy catching lame continuity errors in spiderman and ****, but i also realized that movies aren't shot in chronological order - and by the time errors like that become apparent (in editing) it's usually too late to change them.

[AlphaTech]

boymerang, you might be surprised at how fast edits can be made these days. With stuff going online, it's a snap to edit an article (if only online). If it has gone to press, as long as the entire run is not done, they can still make the change. Considering how so many publications are going either direct to press or direct to plate, it takes just minutes to make the change and have the presses rolling again. Especially since they can make a type change fast (black plate).

I have never heard of EE Times (or at least don't recall them), do you have a site to link to them?? Are they accurate in most other things?? I would suspect the quality of their tech articles if they cannot get something like bits and bytes right. Any reporter worth the lead in their pencil checks their article over before sending it out. If there is something like that error in their they [the good ones] typically contact their source and get it right.

IF they really are talking about TB, not Tb, then it will be interesting to see when this actually comes out.

BTW, I have a BFA in graphic design, and worked in the pre-press department at a printer for almost 3 years.

[boymerang]

Originally posted by AlphaTech

IF they really are talking about TB, not Tb, then it will be interesting to see when this actually comes out.

BTW, I have a BFA in graphic design, and worked in the pre-press department at a printer for almost 3 years.

I didn't really mean this to turn into a pissing match. but, my comment about changes being too little, too late, was really only in reference to movie editing. i'm well aware of how easy it is to make changes to something - though, if you're willing to pay for it, virtually anything can be done.

but i know first hand how difficult editing can be - especially if said editor is out of his/her field of experience. how many times have you read newspaper articles from 'reputable' sources that fudge up a Band's name, or have some other bastardization of a 'known' fact. we don't instantly assume they're talking about something completely different - we just use our own minds to edit..."that doesn't make sense, they must mean..."

as for the technology ever coming out - who knows. The fact that they're using a red laser, instead of a violet or blue laser (which everyone else is using to achieve similar, if not better, results) points to this being a bit of a stop-gap solution. it sounds as though the same technology could be applied to the more precise lasers, thus increasing capacity even more - which could be what he was hinting at with the reference to Terabytes. though i suppose we'll never know...

it _will_ be interesting to see where all this divergent technology GOES...not everything can come to market, and some of it sounds like it goes in direct competition with itself (big surprise).

[SPG]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Duder, what the ***** are you on??? Whatever it is, stop using it before you fry your two remaining living brain cells.

You sound like one of the butt-******** that have their car stereos so loud that you can feel the base from 1/4 mile away (deaf, dumb ********).

Settle down junior. And yes I am talking about your over the top over response AlphaTech. The guy was trying to make a point and instead of arguing the validity of his comment, you accuse him of playing his stereo too loud? If I recall aren't you an avid Harley fan? The same guys who ride around with blaringly loud exhaust pipes?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by SPG


Settle down junior. And yes I am talking about your over the top over response AlphaTech. The guy was trying to make a point and instead of arguing the validity of his comment, you accuse him of playing his stereo too loud? If I recall aren't you an avid Harley fan? The same guys who ride around with blaringly loud exhaust pipes?

Actually Bubba... I don't have drag pipes (the real loud ones) which are too loud even for me. I had aftermarket ones installed that look better, and have a bit deeper sound. They are a little louder then stock, but within the legal limits.

Your also getting into this rather late in the game, so chill out and don't get your panties in a bundle.

[SPG]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Actually Bubba... I don't have drag pipes (the real loud ones) which are too loud even for me. I had aftermarket ones installed that look better, and have a bit deeper sound. They are a little louder then stock, but within the legal limits.

Your also getting into this rather late in the game, so chill out and don't get your panties in a bundle.
Panties aren't in a bundle thankyouverymuch, and yes I should have called you out earlier, but I don't post as often as some when things are busy. I just noticed the level of venom in your response and was curious as to why you feel that you needed to respond as you did. What kind of a nerve did Duder's hyperbole strike? And where did this loud music thing come from?
Reread your response and tell me that was appropriate.

[SPG]

Originally posted by SPG

Panties aren't in a bundle thankyouverymuch, and yes I should have called you out earlier, but I don't post as often as some when things are busy. I just noticed the level of venom in your response and was curious as to why you feel that you needed to respond as you did. What kind of a nerve did Duder's hyperbole strike? And where did this loud music thing come from?
Reread your response and tell me that was appropriate.

Holy Crap! Do I sound like your Mother or what? "Now Alpha, play nice. Is that any way to treat your playmates?"

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by SPG


Holy Crap! Do I sound like your Mother or what? "Now Alpha, play nice. Is that any way to treat your playmates?"

Actually, my mother is cooler then that :p :D

[rEd Eye]

Originaly Posted by AlphaTech

"muahahahahahahaaaa...considering how the mook hasn't posted a reply, maybe it's gotten a bit smarter... nahhhh that can't be "

"Duder, what the ***** are you on??? Whatever it is, stop using it before you fry your two remaining living brain cells. "
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Looked at yourself in a mirror lately,buddy?
Talk about no brainer,useless statements, with absolutely no purpose other than to make yourself feel a bare semblance of significance in the midst of your otherwise apparently pathetic existance!
What is your problem with the people whom you consider to be so much less intelligent than yourself?
No,please feel free to respond,this could be interesting......

[groovebuster]

Originally posted by rEd Eye
Looked at yourself in a mirror lately,buddy?
Talk about no brainer,useless statements, with absolutely no purpose other than to make yourself feel a bare semblance of significance in the midst of your otherwise apparently pathetic existance!
What is your problem with the people whom you consider to be so much less intelligent than yourself?
No,please feel free to respond,this could be interesting......

Forget it! AlphaTech is always like that! He has always the longest, no matter what. He really must have a ****ty life, considering how he tries to brag about everything about himself or what he owns.

First he really pissed me off regularly, but meanhwile I just feel pity for him. Ignore him. No matter what kind of answer you'll give, he'll take it as a reassurement how cool he is and will go on.

I know Alpha-Buddy... Harley's are the best, guns are cool, you have a new TiBook, you have a whatever thing in graphic design, you are just everybody's hero! ..... did you ever try Viagra? Could help with your problem!

So just don't feed the troll!

groovebuster

P.S. How is it possible, that a normal person is doing 2300 posts from October 'til now? (makes an average of almost 9 postings per day since then!!!) Either he's unemployed and spending the money he inherited from daddy the whole day, or he has absolutely no social life. Would explain a lot.

[boymerang]

Alright, alright, kids...back to your corners...

is the guy really harsh and abrasive? sure. is he more or less right? yeah. is everyone else thinking the same thing that you're thinking? most likely - so why bother bringing it up?

he's proud of his harley. that's cool. this week i really want a motorcycle, but i'd rather have some evil plastic and polygons superbike.

he's proud of his bachelor of fine art majoring in design. i'm proud of my bachelor of design.

he thinks a lot of you are over-excited school girls losing your minds while sniffing your Hello Kitty™ gluesticks...and at times i'd have to agree.

does he post a lot? sure. probably because he makes time in his day to do it. it's not as though he's writing eloquent tomes on here, he takes a few seconds out of his day to deliver a verbal beat-down to some unsuspecting pleb, then goes back to colour-correcting someone else's design work. whoops, i mean doing 'pre-press'.

skip over his posts if they bother you so much.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by boymerang
Alright, alright, kids...back to your corners...

is the guy really harsh and abrasive? sure. is he more or less right? yeah. is everyone else thinking the same thing that you're thinking? most likely - so why bother bringing it up?

he's proud of his harley. that's cool. this week i really want a motorcycle, but i'd rather have some evil plastic and polygons superbike.

he's proud of his bachelor of fine art majoring in design. i'm proud of my bachelor of design.

he thinks a lot of you are over-excited school girls losing your minds while sniffing your Hello Kitty™ gluesticks...and at times i'd have to agree.

does he post a lot? sure. probably because he makes time in his day to do it. it's not as though he's writing eloquent tomes on here, he takes a few seconds out of his day to deliver a verbal beat-down to some unsuspecting pleb, then goes back to colour-correcting someone else's design work. whoops, i mean doing 'pre-press'.

skip over his posts if they bother you so much.

Actually, I left the pre-press job going on three years ago when I became a tech. I find it more challenging then staring at other people's designs and picking them apart (there were some real bad ones, but also some killer ones).

As a tech, I support BOTH Mac's and peecee's here at work, with there being many more Mac's.

As for being 'harsh and abrasive' well, only when I feel the target deserves that treatment. I am just as happy to help someone figure out what is wrong with their computer, or what they are doing wrong as opening up cans of 'whoop-ass'.

If you don't like what I am saying, then don't read what I have to say. Go back to your fantasy world where everyone is nice to each other and I will stay here in reality.

[groovebuster]

"is the guy really harsh and abrasive? sure. is he more or less right? yeah. is everyone else thinking the same thing that you're thinking? most likely - so why bother bringing it up?"

I could ask you just the same... why do you bother? You probably don't get the point. People like him scare off newbies, because they don't know him and one of the first replies they get is offensive. So maybe it is not bad to tell them once in a while, that they should ignore him. And since I made pretty bad experiences with him myself, it is my business, if I tell my opinion about him to other people.

"he's proud of his harley. that's cool. this week i really want a motorcycle, but i'd rather have some evil plastic and polygons superbike.
he's proud of his bachelor of fine art majoring in design. i'm proud of my bachelor of design."

That's no the point. To be proud of something has nothing to do with bragging all the time (no matter how ridiculous it is) about it. People who really achieved something in their lifes don't need that. He's defining himself through status symbols. And from my experience people like that always have a serious problem with themselves. And he obviously does. Not mention, that he's permanently humiliating people for feeling superior. Do I need to tell more?

"he thinks a lot of you are over-excited school girls losing your minds while sniffing your Hello Kitty™ gluesticks...and at times i'd have to agree."#

It is very interesting that you are talking about YOU and not US or SOME OF US!

So you are something better than the rest of us? I don't wonder anymore, why you are defending him.

"does he post a lot? sure. probably because he makes time in his day to do it. it's not as though he's writing eloquent tomes on here, he takes a few seconds out of his day to deliver a verbal beat-down to some unsuspecting pleb, then goes back to colour-correcting someone else's design work. whoops, i mean doing 'pre-press'."

Nobody who is working seriously has that much time to write that many posts. Don't forget, it is not only to write them, before you have to read other posts or to follow the thread. That definately takes more than just a few seconds.

But sorry when I ask.... isn't just color-correcting a pretty dull work for someone who has a masters in graphic design?

But I am pretty surprised that you know so well what he's doing at work... same company?

"skip over his posts if they bother you so much."

That's what I normally do... but if you don't like my post, just ignore it as well, wise man.

groovebuster

[boymerang]

Originally posted by groovebuster


That's no the point. To be proud of something has nothing to do with bragging all the time (no matter how ridiculous it is) about it. People who really achieved something in their lifes don't need that. He's defining himself through status symbols. And from my experience people like that always have a serious problem with themselves. And he obviously does. Not mention, that he's permanently humiliating people for feeling superior. Do I need to tell more?

you're telling me a lot already. why do you take it so personally? it's a forum board. he's some stranger on the otherside of the world for all you know. why let it get to you? why try and disempower him with personal mantras about how mean people suck.



It is very interesting that you are talking about YOU and not US or SOME OF US!

did we just have an "i'm rubber and you're glue" moment? no, really.


Nobody who is working seriously has that much time to write that many posts. Don't forget, it is not only to write them, before you have to read other posts or to follow the thread. That definately takes more than just a few seconds.

so it takes a few minutes. its his work day. let him decide what he wants to do.

But sorry when I ask.... isn't just color-correcting a pretty dull work for someone who has a masters in graphic design?

But I am pretty surprised that you know so well what he's doing at work... same company?

yeah. we're part of the same conspiracy. i work right beside him. he's watching over my shoulder right now. i gave him half my sandwich. he really likes my shoes.

he posted about his bachelor of fine art in a previous thread...in fact...in THIS thread. memory's not just for computers.

That's what I normally do... but if you don't like my post, just ignore it as well, wise man.

no, i really like your post. that you could miss the obvious humour in my post, and retort with something so serious is a little perplexing. yeah, abrasive people can scare of newbies...he obviously didn't scare off me though - or anyone else that's started since he's been here. if we're to assume that the people posting here are adults, and stable members of society - than we can also safely assume they've come across people that don't share their Gumdrops and Lollypops view of the world - and have survived to tell about it.

at what point do you begin to censor people in the interest of 'protecting' people's feelings?

[groovebuster]

"Actually, I left the pre-press job going on three years ago when I became a tech. I find it more challenging then staring at other people's designs and picking them apart (there were some real bad ones, but also some killer ones)."

Even now you have to point out again how superior you were, that you "picked apart" the work of other people! I worked for advertising companies dude and I know exactly what people like you are doing there. The creative part was done by someone else before... but why do I bother, you are bull-****ting again.

"As a tech, I support BOTH Mac's and peecee's here at work, with there being many more Mac's."

Wow! You are so good, your are so cool! Did anybody ask you? Why do you have to mention again that you are the (wonnabe) king on Macs and PCs??

"As for being 'harsh and abrasive' well, only when I feel the target deserves that treatment."

Do you really think that about yourself? I guess you need a reality check, buddy! You are like that to almost everyone. So please explain to the rest of the world, why the guy who opened this thread deserved to be treated like that? I am very curious about your answer since i don't expect any logical reason (like always)!

And besides that, to have a different opinion is one thing, to have respect for other people, even if they think or are different something totally different!

"I am just as happy to help someone figure out what is wrong with their computer, or what they are doing wrong as opening up cans of 'whoop-ass'."

Thank you, massa Alpha!!! Let me kiss ya feet, massa Alpha!!

Even IF that would be true, it's not an excuse to treat other people like that!

"If you don't like what I am saying, then don't read what I have to say. Go back to your fantasy world where everyone is nice to each other and I will stay here in reality."

You can say whatever you like to! All kinds of stupidities that exist in this world. But you reply on postings of other people and you offend them personally on purpose! This is something that shouldn't be tolerated. If you have to say something regarding the subject, fine! If you have a different opinion, fine! If you wonna help, fine!!! But not like that!

You know, your problem is that you never learned respect. And your last sentence is typical again for someone who always blames other people for his mistakes and never is wrong.

The only one who is living in a dream-world is you! Nobody expects that everbody loves everybody. The problem is that nobody seems to like YOU... and you don't even realize! You still that you are cool. That's so pitiful!

Get well!

groovebuster

[groovebuster]

Originally posted by boymerang

no, i really like your post. that you could miss the obvious humour in my post, and retort with something so serious is a little perplexing. yeah, abrasive people can scare of newbies...he obviously didn't scare off me though - or anyone else that's started since he's been here. if we're to assume that the people posting here are adults, and stable members of society - than we can also safely assume they've come across people that don't share their Gumdrops and Lollypops view of the world - and have survived to tell about it.

at what point do you begin to censor people in the interest of 'protecting' people's feelings?

I learned not long ago, that this forum is also visited by a lot of young people in high-school or college... Do you still think now it's harmless?

If I maybe didn't notice your sarcastic humor in your reply, I'm sorry, but my mother-tongue is German and not English.

Peace!

groovebuster

[boymerang]

Originally posted by groovebuster


I learned not long ago, that this forum is also visited by a lot of young people in high-school or college... Do you still think now it's harmless?


by north american highschool and college standards AlphaTech totally fits in. sometimes resorts to childish name calling (look a few posts back). Brags. is a little nihilistic, almost for the sake of it. kids totally get off on that kinda thing.

[groovebuster]

Originally posted by boymerang


by north american highschool and college standards AlphaTech totally fits in. sometimes resorts to childish name calling (look a few posts back). Brags. is a little nihilistic, almost for the sake of it. kids totally get off on that kinda thing.

But he's an adult... or is he a kid from high-school, 15 and pretending to be someone else?

[GabrielX]

Originally posted by groovebuster


But he's an adult... or is he a kid from high-school, 15 and pretending to be someone else?

Good god...this entire thread reminds me of a certain dark color and several kitchen utensils.

Drop it kids.

Gabriel
(who until last weekend wanted a Harley...but is now focused on a Victory.)

[eyelikeart]

u guys need to learn to play nicely...

I thought this thread was supposed to be about new cd technology....not bashing each other... :rolleyes: