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ZildjianKX
Feb 20, 2004, 11:50 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2989028321&category=19272

I just knew that someone would sell iTunes songs from the Pepsi give-away.

The horrible thing is that its selling for $10.50 with shipping, and the songs are only worth $9.90...

You would think he could just E-mail them the redemption codes...



alxths
Feb 20, 2004, 11:55 PM
I don't really see what's so bad about it..

MoparShaha
Feb 21, 2004, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
You would think he could just E-mail them the redemption codes... But then it would be a violation of eBay's terms of service. Something has to exchange hands for it to follow eBay's TOS. Still though, is this legal, from Pepsi/Apple's viewpoint?

ZildjianKX
Feb 21, 2004, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by alxths
I don't really see what's so bad about it..

Umm... total cost with shipping is $10.50... those songs are worth 10 x $0.99, = $9.90

ZildjianKX
Feb 21, 2004, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by MoparShaha
But then it would be a violation of eBay's terms of service. Something has to exchange hands for it to follow eBay's TOS. Still though, is this legal, from Pepsi/Apple's viewpoint?

If that were true, you wouldn't be allowed to sell virtual items, like in Ever Quest.

I'm pretty sure what you are referring to is if you want ebay's insurance protection, etc.

alxths
Feb 21, 2004, 12:27 AM
You mean to say, he's making 60 cents profit....AND YET ISN'T BEING TAXED ON IT?!?!!?!?!?!!?!? What scandal!!!!

So someone will be able to buy songs from the itunes store without a credit card(or glue the caps to his forehead, who on earth cares)... very honest of them to go through that effort, instead of just downloading it form kazaa..

MoparShaha
Feb 21, 2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
If that were true, you wouldn't be allowed to sell virtual items, like in Ever Quest.

I'm pretty sure what you are referring to is if you want ebay's insurance protection, etc. I remember when people were trying to sell their souls on eBay. eBay closed the auctions on the grounds that nothing was changing hands. I'm pretty sure something physical needs to be transacted for it to be considered legit on eBay.

ZildjianKX
Feb 21, 2004, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by alxths
You mean to say, he's making 60 cents profit....AND YET ISN'T BEING TAXED ON IT?!?!!?!?!?!!?!? What scandal!!!!

So someone will be able to buy songs from the itunes store without a credit card(or glue the caps to his forehead, who on earth cares)... very honest of them to go through that effort, instead of just downloading it form kazaa..

Don't you need to put in your credit card to use the songs you won? I know I had to sign up for an account before I could redeem mine... and I had to put in a CC #.

Nermal
Feb 21, 2004, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by alxths
You mean to say, he's making 60 cents profit....AND YET ISN'T BEING TAXED ON IT?!?!!?!?!?!!?!? What scandal!!!!

Ah, but surely he paid tax in the first place, to actually get the caps?

virividox
Feb 21, 2004, 02:07 AM
i cant believe anyone is falling for this, its a total rip off, and whats to stop the guy from using the codes....

rainman::|:|
Feb 21, 2004, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by MoparShaha
I remember when people were trying to sell their souls on eBay. eBay closed the auctions on the grounds that nothing was changing hands. I'm pretty sure something physical needs to be transacted for it to be considered legit on eBay.

It has to be for a "legitimate item or service", which these caps kind of fall into. there's a lot of room for interpretation. I think in this case, at least allowing the person to opt to receive the codes by email...

paul

themadchemist
Feb 21, 2004, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by MoparShaha
I remember when people were trying to sell their souls on eBay. eBay closed the auctions on the grounds that nothing was changing hands. I'm pretty sure something physical needs to be transacted for it to be considered legit on eBay.

I think selling iTunes codes (even by e-mail) is a far cry from selling one's soul.

Opteron
Feb 21, 2004, 02:45 AM
I have to say this:p

"Only in America" as the saying goes;)

themadchemist
Feb 21, 2004, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Opteron
I have to say this:p

"Only in America" as the saying goes;)

we say the same thing about australia when it comes to duck-billed platypi and kangaroos. now, honestly, is a no-talent, asian, civil-engineering singer/songwriter as weird as a kangaroo? I think not.

alxths
Feb 21, 2004, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
Don't you need to put in your credit card to use the songs you won?

Possibly, I actually have no idea... but considering how many customers the itunes music store has, I'm sure there are at least a few that are under circumstances that leave them with an activated account but no chargable credit card; in such a case, I dont think 60 cents is really a big deal. In any case(even if the buying thinks these caps are cheaper than the actual songs), 60 cents isn't a big deal.

Wes
Feb 21, 2004, 11:09 AM
I was wondering why he was giving away these songs then I saw: "do not call me because im hearing impaired please email me thank you regan."

If people are dumb enough to buy it, I see no problem.

mrjamin
Feb 21, 2004, 11:49 AM
for someone outside the USA, this'd be great! Especially if you're in the UK - 1.9 $ - £ - can't beat that ;)

ZildjianKX
Feb 21, 2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by mrjamin
for someone outside the USA, this'd be great! Especially if you're in the UK - 1.9 $ - £ - can't beat that ;)

I didn't think you could use iTunes in Europe yet... do they check where your IP is from, etc?

coopdog
Feb 21, 2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by virividox
i cant believe anyone is falling for this, its a total rip off, and whats to stop the guy from using the codes....

But they are FREE!!!! :p

mrjamin
Feb 21, 2004, 02:23 PM
they do check IPs but that only brings up a warning. If you create an american AOL account then you can buy stuff from iTMS from the UK with that so i can't see that it'd make a difference with the pepsi codes on an american account.

here's the warning:

edit: just spotted that the guy isn't offering international shipping! doh!

Benjamin
Feb 21, 2004, 02:53 PM
yep it was bound to happen but then again at least this isn't buying items for like.. diablo.. lol

themadchemist
Feb 21, 2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Benjamin
yep it was bound to happen but then again at least this isn't buying items for like.. diablo.. lol

hmm...the ancient technique of deflecting blame by ridiculing something you have done?

so how many jordan rings HAVE you bought on eBay? ;)

MongoTheGeek
Feb 21, 2004, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by MoparShaha
But then it would be a violation of eBay's terms of service. Something has to exchange hands for it to follow eBay's TOS. Still though, is this legal, from Pepsi/Apple's viewpoint?

I think they both hope for wider media attention. I don't think pepsi cares about this its only a blip in redemption rates. Apple was quite happy with people ebaying the songs themselves until Ebay put the kibosh on it. They weren't sure how to do the transfer but they had no issue with the concept.

ZildjianKX
Feb 22, 2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Wes
I was wondering why he was giving away these songs then I saw: "do not call me because im hearing impaired please email me thank you regan."

If people are dumb enough to buy it, I see no problem.

Woah, I didn't catch that part... kinda crappy promotion for the hearing impared.