MWNY predictions..:)

[mmmdreg]

Although this happens every week, it dies out pretty fast...so seeing as MWNY is pretty close now, what do you think is happening? hardware, software? something completely new?

[Kethoticus]

I predict nothing dramatic. Of course, that's relative. Some members of this posting area seemed to feel that the LCD iMac was equal to Apple's pre-MWSF hype. I did not. And what some here will think is fantastic and exciting and revolutionary, I think will be rather unimpressive. But here's what I expect:

* 1.2GHz G4 processors will be introduced, possibly in dual configs;

* DDR-RAM will be on all pro mobos; I doubt it'll be on the iMacs, eMacs or laptops yet; this is the most impressive development I expect to be announced;

* No firewire 2;

* New pro enclosures;

* Possibly 100MHz speed boosts in the LCD iMacs.

And that's it. I do sincerely hope I'm wrong, though, and that the systems announced make some serious headway against the Wintel competition. But the patterns of the past few years do not make me optimistic.

[Rower_CPU]

You're probably pretty close, Kethoticus.

Although, I would add that "Jaguar" will play a large part as well. Either a release-date announcement, or something along those lines is due.

[newmacguy]

What does MWNY...I think it means Mid Winter Next Year...but if i knew for sure i wouldnt be asking

[Foocha]

MWNY is MacWorld New York. As opposed to MWSF - MacWorld San Fransico.

Strangely I've never seen MWP for MacWorld Paris, or MWT for MacWorld Tokyo - I guess they're not as catchy!

If you don't ask, you don't get!

[Foocha]

Also... welcome to the MacRumors messageboard, newmacguy!

[groov']

Originally posted by newmacguy
What does MWNY...I think it means Mid Winter Next Year...but if i knew for sure i wouldnt be asking

i think newmacguy is oldmacguy, cus' what he thinks is right....

you probably get what you want from mwny at mwsf

[McFreggle]

Originally posted by Foocha
Strangely I've never seen MWP for MacWorld Paris, or MWT for MacWorld Tokyo - I guess they're not as catchy!


I'm not sure about Tokyo, but I thought Paris wasn't a MacWorld... I think it is an Apple Expo. Basically, it's the same, but it's an other organization.

I could be totally wrong, too...

k.

[loicl]

yes you're right it's an apple expo
but i think you should have a look to
http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html
they are talking about

G4/ 1,2 GHz - 256 Mo DDR - SuperDrive - Geforce 4Mx ou Radeon,
G4/ 1,4 GHz - 512 Mo DDR - SuperDrive - Geforce 4Mx ou Radeon
Bi-G4 1,4 GHz - 1 Go DDR - SuperDrive - GeForce 4Ti

and other 2.5 G5 runnng at Motorola. Since in my
opinion this shop is partening with Paris expo...

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by Foocha
Strangely I've never seen MWP for MacWorld Paris, or MWT for MacWorld Tokyo - I guess they're not as catchy!

I want MWL - MacWorld London!

[sjs]

I predict iMac to go to 1ghz. Apple is kicking off a huge new ad campaign. I think they would be crazy to give wintel users such an easy reason to NOT buy an iMac...namely that the processor is below the magic number.

A few months ago I predicted that by MWSF 03, every machine Apple has will be offered at 1ghz or more. From a marketing perspective Apple has just got to go ahead and make this commitment. Wintel users think gigahertz and whether we like it or not, speaking from my own personal experience, when you are trying to make the leap of faith to Macdom, you feel like an idiot buying a machine below 1ghz because it "must be" so SLOW.

[Moxiemike]

That the pro line will go all dual?

I wonder if that's at all feasible and have noticed no one talking about it. But even a dual 800 on the low end for 1799 dual ghz for 2499 and dual 1.2 for like, 3199 would be a big enough performance boost that a ghz iMac wouldn't barge in too much.

Add the DDR Ram and you have a decent sounding line up. Anyone have any thoughts??

m

[McFreggle]

Originally posted by verbose101

I want MWL - MacWorld London!

That's 'L' for Leuven, goddammit!

k.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by McFreggle


That's 'L' for Leuven, goddammit!

k.
No! No! Pleeeeeeeeease, let it be 'London'!

[Megaquad]

PowerMacs:
if they come out with 1.2 ghz duals everyone will be dissapointed and apple will be ********,if they come out with dual 1.4 ghz's,ahmm...they can stand but apple is still far behind peecees,1.5 ghz duals would be fine

iMacs:if they bump them only to 933 mhz/gf4mx,ill be pissed off,1 ghz's/geforce 4 mx are still sad but i'll buy one
keeping crappy geforce 2 mx would be suicide for iMacs

[topicolo]

I think apple's going to introduce 1.3Ghz G4s as their top of the line macs. After all, IBM's been able to use 1.3Ghz Power4s for a while now.

[amnesiac1984]

Originally posted by loicl
yes you're right it's an apple expo
but i think you should have a look to
http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html
they are talking about

G4/ 1,2 GHz - 256 Mo DDR - SuperDrive - Geforce 4Mx ou Radeon,
G4/ 1,4 GHz - 512 Mo DDR - SuperDrive - Geforce 4Mx ou Radeon
Bi-G4 1,4 GHz - 1 Go DDR - SuperDrive - GeForce 4Ti

and other 2.5 G5 runnng at Motorola. Since in my
opinion this shop is partening with Paris expo...

I'm not that good at french but this site seems to be a dealership of some kind, why would they post this information unless it was quite a reliable source? Just a thought... seing as i'm definately buying one of the new PM's from MWNY I like the idea of them all coming with a superdrive. (ALthough I doubt I'll ever Use it)


:rolleyes:

[britboy]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
Does anyone else think...
That the pro line will go all dual?



No, i don't think apple would do that. They need to keep at least one PM as a single CPU. Some people need the expandability of a tower, at the least possible cost. The mid-range could quite easily go dual though. That would be nice to see.

[ShaolinMiddleFinger]

Originally posted by verbose101

I want MWL - MacWorld London!

If you get that, I want MacWorld Hawaii!

[DavPeanut]

What buses would they use with 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. It would have to be 200 Mhz busses to work. I don't think that will happen, but its possible. Imagine DDR. 400 Mhz! That would be so frickin' sweet. I'm pretty sure the iMac's going 1 Ghz.

[topicolo]

Originally posted by amnesiac1984


I'm not that good at french but this site seems to be a dealership of some kind, why would they post this information unless it was quite a reliable source? Just a thought... seing as i'm definately buying one of the new PM's from MWNY I like the idea of them all coming with a superdrive. (ALthough I doubt I'll ever Use it)


:rolleyes:

Well, I read that page and it doesn't seem to anything more than just speculation. The info on that website isn't any more reliable than the rumors here.
:(

[billiam0878]

My Conservative Predictions:

-iMac: 800MHz & 933MHz, same otherwise

-PowerMac: 933MHz - 1.2GHz with DDR RAM and SuperDrives across the board.

My Optimistic Predicitons:

-iMac: 800MHz - 1.0GHz, 256MB+ SDRAM, BlueTooth Support, New Wireless Mouse & Keyboard, Upgraded Graphics (?), Base Model gets COMBO Drive (advantage over eMac) Standard SuperDrive in other Models. Perhaps a SE Model with 17-inch Screen.

-PowerMac: 1.0GHz - 1.4GHz, 512MB+ DDR RAM, BlueTooth Support, New Wireless Mouse & Keyboard, Upgraded Graphics (ATI 8500 & GeForce4Ti) SuperDrive2 (Faster) in all models.

-BlueTooth Added to iBook, PowerBook (remember this is optimistic)

-Wireless Optical Mouse & Keyboard Available in August for $79/each.

-Jaguar Available in August

-iDevice: Tablet running Jaguar with InkWell?

Here's Hoping,


Bill :)

[Gatorman]

I don't mean to sound like an ass here, but I hope for our sakes that we're all offbase and the expo is going to be a lot more exciting than what's being predicted. It would yet be another crappy, disappointing expo if that's all that happens, if you ask me.

[boobers]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
That the pro line will go all dual?

I wonder if that's at all feasible and have noticed no one talking about it. But even a dual 800 on the low end for 1799 dual ghz for 2499 and dual 1.2 for like, 3199 would be a big enough performance boost that a ghz iMac wouldn't barge in too much.

Add the DDR Ram and you have a decent sounding line up. Anyone have any thoughts??

m

That does seem very likely to make a better distinction between the proline and the consumer line...if they don't whip out the G5 then this dual idea seems very likely to me.

[imamacguy17]

Lets look at the past year. shall we. We got a new iMac. We got updates to the Tibook, and the iBook. We got the Xserve and all of the new software. For MWNY the only hardware we will see is a new "final" G4. Bottem line the Xserve is still using a G4 and it is proudly proclaimed. The final G4 will sport a new enclosure and all the features of the Xserve. Monitors will probably get an update because they need them (and a price cut most likely 100-300 bucks across the line) As for inkwell the usual one more think and the we cant paint all the numbers together into a picture. The device will be a tablet computer. It will be about the size of a notebook 8.5 x 11 inches and only 1 inch thick. Instead of a keyboard for imput it has a writable screen and it will run the full OS X. It will have the full range of conections as well as an ADC conection for a dock. The dock will look like the "frames" of the current monitors and will house a power supply. This combines all of the convience of a laptop, the portably of a pda, abd function of a workstation. This is the future. This is the way. Macintosh.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by boobers


That does seem very likely to make a better distinction between the proline and the consumer line...if they don't whip out the G5 then this dual idea seems very likely to me.

Thanks. It just seems that they need to do *SOMETHING* more to differentiate between the pro and cosumer lines and DDR Ram alone isn't enough in my book.

Maybe we'll see all duals. But we WILL NOT see any PDA ;)


m

[ftaok]

Originally posted by DavPeanut
What buses would they use with 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. It would have to be 200 Mhz busses to work. I don't think that will happen, but its possible. Imagine DDR. 400 Mhz! That would be so frickin' sweet. I'm pretty sure the iMac's going 1 Ghz. Why??? A 133 bus will multiply up nicely to 1.2 and 1.4ghz.

133 x 9 = 1.2
133 x 10.5 = 1.4

Now, there is that little thing about the G4 being limited to 10x the system bus speed.

[Ouroboros]

Well this 133mhz bus thing will probably stay in my opinion. By the way, isn't the Pentium 4 at 533mhz bus? Which means it is quad pumped at 133mhz right? Any experts here want to speculate if maybe Apple could work with Motorola and do this? Is this in a document about a G4 revision? That would be interesting and cool. Maybe a separate bus for each processor? Who knows. But everyone DOES know that the current chips are sort of starved and waiting because the bus and memory or holding it back a bit. That's why they have large L3 caches. Interesting stuff...

[iH8Quark]

IMHO if Jaguar doesn't support 64 bit on some level, this is a good indication that anything resembling the "G5" won't be arriving for at least a year.

The G4 is such a limited chip (again IMO). I can't figure out what the deal is with them. Their multimedia playback is so poor compared to other chips (both flash and video). And altivec is some kind of marketing smoke and mirrors job. It's really not all that great. Although FCP _is_ truly amazing. But to think that Apple is taking a chip with so many limitations and compounding the problem by putting really old technology around them is baffling.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love my mac. I love OS X. But I do not have any warm feelings towards the G4. So I am HOPING for the G5...but I think not a chance. :rolleyes:

I think the 1.4 GHz is an ambitious prediction, too. I woud be happy with new REALLY fast RAM and BUS, and component interfaces. (not "just enough to get by")

[Grokgod]

Why do you say that the 133 bus will stay?

You know that the server is using Ddram , right.

maybe I am misunderstanding you?

[barkmonster]

The link's dead now.

There was a french site that posted some pretty detailed specs around the time of a Macworld event in the past year or so, I can't remember which macworld it was near but it had model numbers and everything. I read about it on here I'm sure but I didn't bookmark the link to it.

I'm guessing it's the same company that's doing it now, the specs we're way off if I remember right, I also remember another time where a similar thing happened and the specs we're dead on.

I think if the specs are super detailed, model numbers and everything, it seems quite reasonable that they could have got the info from an insider at apple, only if it's very close to the expo though. The past few times someone posted the exact specs of up coming models so I'm taking anything I read from now until a few days before the expo as pure rumour and speculation. Specs posted 1 or 2 days before an expo are something that have turned out to be true a few times now though.

here's what I'd like to see anyway:

1Ghz G4, 2Mb L3, 256Mb DDR, ATA100, 60Gb 7200rpm HD, DVD/CDRW combo.
1.4Ghz G4 (maybe only 1.333Ghz), 2Mb L3, 256Mb DDR, ATA100, 80Gb 7200rpm HD, DVD-R/CDRW combo.
1.2Ghz G4 Dual, 2Mb L3, 512Mb DDR, ATA100, 100Gb 7200rpm HD, DVD-R/CDRW combo.

Case redesign with more attention paid to usability than eyecandy, keep the flip down door, add an option to have 2 5 1/4" optical drives, put audio inputs back, give us drive eject buttons, front USB, Firewire and headphone ports.

What I really will see could be a different story.

I'd probably go with the high clock speed G4s being only single CPU models with the top end system using dual medium speed chips like the old 733,867 and dual 800Mhz range. That way all the power isn't given to those who can afford the high end, the mid range model will offer more value for money and the high end model will still toast the others at most tasks under OS X.

[Ouroboros]

Originally posted by Grokgod
Why do you say that the 133 bus will stay?

You know that the server is using Ddram , right.

maybe I am misunderstanding you?

Well sorry to say but it is just a hunch. The Pentium 4 and AMD apparently still have 133mhz bus of some sort, but they have multiple pipes of 133mhz. For example, the Pentium 4 touts a 533mhz bus, but that is simply: 133mhz x 4 = 533mhz (if my figures are inaccurate now, sorry!). But I read somewhere that currently the G4 simply doesn't support a speed of higher than 133mhz, at least this iteration.

But then again, Motorola also is trying to slap on features with each new G4 -- the slated new model (whenever that happens) is supposed to have support for DDR, and I *think* 166mhz bus or something. My memory on this isn't so good, and of course, it is from reading comments on Appleinsider (which I might add, is VERY interesting, there seems to be some extremely technical minded people over there) -- blah blah, of course I'm speculating!

But one thing that is interesting: WHY is it SO HARD to find ANYTHING on the new future processors?? I mean almost nobody knows a damn thing!!!

In a way, I find that HIGHLY encouraging... Because someone might think that there is something awfully important to hide.

[Ouroboros]

One question to you all:

Did anyone, anywhere, get the G4 iMac before it came out? Any rumor site? Ignore Time Canada. I don't think anyone was prepared for it being a G4. (Which I might add was the biggest leap that Apple has done in its history with Jobs) The reason I'm asking is that it is seems possible that in the past year or so, Apple has really learned how to keep a tight ship with rumors. And yes, I'm asking because it would be nice to be surprised with some amazing left field announcement!

[Inhale420]

Originally posted by Foocha
MWNY is MacWorld New York. As opposed to MWSF - MacWorld San Fransico.

Strangely I've never seen MWP for MacWorld Paris, or MWT for MacWorld Tokyo - I guess they're not as catchy!

If you don't ask, you don't get!

because 'NY' is the abbreviation for new york. P is not the abbreviation for paris.

[GabrielX]

Originally posted by Inhale420


because 'NY' is the abbreviation for new york. P is not the abbreviation for paris.

Yeah, but SF isn't really the abbreviation for San Fransisco, at least not in any place I've been.

Gabriel

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by GabrielX


Yeah, but SF isn't really the abbreviation for San Fransisco, at least not in any place I've been.


just curious what abbreviation for san francisco you've seen?

i guess san fran or something. but anything 2 letters not "sf"?

[mcrain]

MWNY prediction: iWalk.

*ducks and runs for cover* LOL

[Joshlew]

Dual 1.4Ghz G4's = Hopefully
1ghz = With a bit of luck
iCam = Who knows?

My point is, none of us know what's going to happen so I'm just going to sit back and wait,...... and wait,......and wait,.........Oh stuff it, lets browse the web!:D

[sturm375]

Optimistic:
PowerMac: DDR RAM, ATA133, New Case Design w/ front side FireWire & USB (2.0:eek: ), 4 Memory Slots for 8 GB possible RAM (PC2700 or faster), Bus speed increase, Speed bump up to 1.3 Ghz, Bigger Hard Drives (160 GB).

iMac G4: Speed bump to 1 Ghz, Super Drive for top 2 models, Screen resolution increase, Bluetooth, Wireless Keyboard, Better video card w/TV out, Bigger Hard Drives.

PowerBook: Speed bump to 1 Ghz, 2 FireWire ports, nVidia GeForce ToGo, Superdrive in Top Model, Audio in, Bigger Hard Drives.

iBook: 14" screen on all. G4 in top of the line, minor speed bump, bigger hard drives

iPod: 20 GB, Color screen, PC Compatibility, Digital Coax out.

OS X: Announcement of the impeanding release date for Jaguar-iChat, Address stuff, QE, QT6, ...etc AND that OS X will support 64-bit processors, up to 8 parallel processors, and time table for G5(64-bit Clawhammer Special)


Realistic:

Minor speed bumps in most products, bigger hard drives with the possible exception of the iPod, no announcement of G5 64-bit ....etc.

[tcmcam]

Here's my big hope for the MWNY:

1. PowerMac redo. There just isn't a huge gap right now between the iMac LCD and the PowerMac line, hopefully that will change.

2. New Case Design - Quicksilver is old now.
- Case should hold 2 5.25" optical drives (for a fast CD/RW)
- Case should be QUIET compared to current lineup.
- Bring back audio in
- My guess is the case will be white like the iMac LCD and Airport.

3. Motherboard
- DDR RAM
- 66 mhz PCI
- ATA-100 (or better yet ATA-133)

4. New Apple Displays. Their 17-inch should be ditched in favor of a 19-inch with the same resolution. Lower Prices, right now a beautiful 19-inch Viewsonic with DVI is less than a 17-inch Apple display. Fix it.

Jack

[Joshlew]

I agree.

PC's are far cheaper, these days, and if apple want to succeed in the mass-market they need to severly cut the prices of all their products. You can get a 2.2Ghz P4 for under $1500 !

[Ouroboros]

I've been thinking that the coolest idea for a new case design would be thin sheets of black and grey metal or metal like plastic, encasing in a 1/4" thick casing of clear plastic all the way around (Notice the thick top veneer plasic on an ipod, but thicker clear plastic). Now I'd be happy with looks like that....

[G5orbust]

At MWNY, I think the mainstream G4 with DDR is a definate.Its a long shot for the G5, since there hasn't been even a cough from Apple on the subject.

Also, I think Apple should ditch the sub-par Geforce 4 MX, bitch for a mac version of the Geforce 3 Ti family and unveil it just in time to pair it with the G4- DDR. I mean, jeeze nVidia, look at ATI. They've got their 8000 series and 7000 series all macified with ADC and everything. The Geforce 4's vary too much to be pratical. Apple wants to put a good graphics card in their low end systems. The geforce 3 ti 200 could easly do the job or the Geforce 4 MX 4xx. The geforce 4 mx just isn't good enough to put in any system above $2000, thats why I place it in the low end. Or the geforce 3 ti 500 for the higher priced G4s and the geforce 4 ti 4600 for the highest.

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[teabgs]

Originally posted by imamacguy17
Lets look at the past year. shall we. We got a new iMac. We got updates to the Tibook, and the iBook. We got the Xserve and all of the new software. For MWNY the only hardware we will see is a new "final" G4. Bottem line the Xserve is still using a G4 and it is proudly proclaimed. The final G4 will sport a new enclosure and all the features of the Xserve. Monitors will probably get an update because they need them (and a price cut most likely 100-300 bucks across the line) As for inkwell the usual one more think and the we cant paint all the numbers together into a picture. The device will be a tablet computer. It will be about the size of a notebook 8.5 x 11 inches and only 1 inch thick. Instead of a keyboard for imput it has a writable screen and it will run the full OS X. It will have the full range of conections as well as an ADC conection for a dock. The dock will look like the "frames" of the current monitors and will house a power supply. This combines all of the convience of a laptop, the portably of a pda, abd function of a workstation. This is the future. This is the way. Macintosh.

I like your style man. yeah.

For the record, no G5 @ MWNY.
Jaguar announced to release mid august which is when new Towers start to ship. Dual 1.4GHZ top w/ 400MHZ bus and DDR.
New software. Talk about the apple stores/marketing, and increasing market share.

Also, Updated iMac, a small one...and maybe some new video/graphics support,hardware, software...I dont know, but something for this area WILL happen....ALso, education....

[Nipsy]

Originally posted by GabrielX


Yeah, but SF isn't really the abbreviation for San Fransisco, at least not in any place I've been.

Gabriel

As a San Francisco resident, I can vouch for SF being our abbrev. sfgiants.com gets you to our teams homepage. Our Modern art Museum is the SFMoma. Mail addressed to S.F., CA gets there.

What we really hate is 'Frisco. Sure sign of a tourist, and almost certainly from the evil Southern end of the state.

[G5orbust]

I also wanted to say that I think Apple will unveil some sort of CRT type monitor. The eMac showed us that Apple hasn't COMPLETELY forgotten about the CRT. I know most people wouldn't want a CRT because of the heat and the bulk and the weight, but how does 1600x1200 in a 17 inch sound?? Thats the MAXIMUM resoultion of the new 23 inch HD display. Paired with some high end graphics card, the CRT would make games and the GUI of OSX look like it just got some major plastic surgery.

[Joshlew]

Yeah, having a CRT based system would be advantageous to apple. It would dramatically decrease the price, and fill the gap in apple's line-up - low end computers.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by Joshlew
Yeah, having a CRT based system would be advantageous to apple. It would dramatically decrease the price, and fill the gap in apple's line-up - low end computers.

And Apple would no-doubt overcharge for the CRT. Those old 17"ers were way to o expensive.... like $399 or $499??? Yikes. And I don't think they'll go 19" either...But here's what I think:

15" LCD at $399 competes with 17". If you want cheaper, go buy a $100 KDS CRT or something

17" LCD at $699 competes with high end flat 19".

19" LCD at $1199

22" LCD Cinema goes down to $1999

23" LCD Cinema goes down in price to $2499

Now how's that for a range of monitors.... everyone started with the "We need a CRT" after the eMac announcment... I think apple's gonna just make the LCD more attractive. ;)

m

[Rower_CPU]

SJ ate crow when the eMac was released ("death of the CRT" with the G4 iMac).

Do you really think he would do it again and intro another CRT-based system? Not likely.

G5orbust-
A 17" CRT at 1600x1200 is not a pretty thing...hell, it's barely tolerable in a 19". The 23" CHD has a 1920x1200 max res...nice try though.:p

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Moxiemike

15" LCD at $399 competes with 17". If you want cheaper, go buy a $100 KDS CRT or something

17" LCD at $699 competes with high end flat 19".

19" LCD at $1199

22" LCD Cinema goes down to $1999

23" LCD Cinema goes down in price to $2499


Think a little outside the box here. My speculation -

17", 19" and 23" - drop the 22"

the 17" is actually a 15" with a different aspect ratio that is the wide format found in the 22" and 23"

the 19" would wider than the current 17", but the same height, geting you the wide format again

drop the 22" since it is redundant.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by dukestreet


Think a little outside the box here. My speculation -

17", 19" and 23" - drop the 22"

the 17" is actually a 15" with a different aspect ratio that is the wide format found in the 22" and 23"

the 19" would wider than the current 17", but the same height, geting you the wide format again

drop the 22" since it is redundant.

Ahhh. I getcha! So you're basically saying move the whole line to wide-aspect screens??

That would be, well, VERY apple... but would it be feasible price-wise? What about keeping the old 15 inch around as a low cost solution??

Interesting proposals on the monitor end though. I would LOVE to be able to afford something neat and odd like a 19" widescreen. :)

[King Cobra]

I thought that the current Apple LCd monitors use old technology and that the new technology for them was more cost effective. (I know we discussed it somewhere on the forums.) So I would not be surprised if new monitors came out, replacing the technology.

However, I do not like the idea of wide screen monitors, since 4x3 seems easier to adopt to, and some applications and such base full screen options and views on a 4x3 ratio monitor. I would find it somewhat hard to go with 16x10 (or whatever it is) for these reasons.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by King Cobra
I thought that the current Apple LCd monitors use old technology and that the new technology for them was more cost effective. (I know we discussed it somewhere on the forums.) So I would not be surprised if new monitors came out, replacing the technology.

However, I do not like the idea of wide screen monitors, since 4x3 seems easier to adopt to, and some applications and such base full screen options and views on a 4x3 ratio monitor. I would find it somewhat hard to go with 16x10 (or whatever it is) for these reasons.

New technology could be OLED - which has been discussed, also the new 'bendable' screens. But I don't see it yet, as being way too expensive right now. OLED will eventually replace LCD, unless something better comes along first. It will end up being cheaper because there is no glass layer, as found in LCD. What's holding it back is making them large enough to be monitor size and still be affordable.

As for the 16:10 aspect ratio, most apps that I use like Photoshop, FCP, Illustrator, IE, etc. have adjustable window sizes, so full screen options aren't an issue. Games mostly would have that issue, but I don't think its all that big a deal. Anyone here play games on a 22" or 23" cinema display? You have problems with full screen?

D

[Rower_CPU]

16:9 aspect ratio...:D

If we see them drop the 15" and shift the prices to the remaining models I will be very happy.

[jawgoob]

Those monitors would look good... but the Dock would be a pain in the ass on a small widescreen monitor.

I am betting that MWNY will bring some news in the high end video and film sector.

Hardware
1. They have XServe
2. They need new graphics cards - they have been talking to NVIDIA. Will this be ready for the expo? Maybe...
3. They need a new Power Mac - it obviously won't be the G5 but they will move significantly here. Will it answer the PC heads criticisms of the Mac? Probably, no. Will we like it? Hopefully, yes. I bet they are banking on the XServe to satisfy the major effects houses hardware needs.


Software
1. They have FCP
2. They have Cinema Tools
3. They have DSP
4. They need an effects/finishing package...They have bought two companies (or technologies, whatever) involved in high-end compositing and effects. - Now some of this will surface in a product. I don't think this will be ready for launch, but we can expect some showtime with Steve using it but not an item in the Apple Store. It will take time to get it right.
5. Damn, a 3D package would be nice...

[G5orbust]

My Predictions for MWNY:

DDR G4 on mainstream desktop models
Faster iMac (Maybe a L3 cache, the 933Mhz chip, or both?)
Upgraded Superdrive (I'm not sure if Apple updated its superdrive from the DVR-A03 to the A04 yet, but if it didnt, then its a sure bet they will soon, possible at MWNY.)*
Special edition iPod with a 20 gig HD
A CRT display
special edition powerbook with either a 933 MHz chip or 1 Ghz chip with a larger L3 cache
* The differences between the two drives are, I believe, dvd write/read speed, and CD write/read speeds. I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by G5orbust
My Predictions for MWNY:

DDR G4 on mainstream desktop models
Faster iMac (Maybe a L3 cache, the 933Mhz chip, or both?)
Upgraded Superdrive (I'm not sure if Apple updated its superdrive from the DVR-A03 to the A04 yet, but if it didnt, then its a sure bet they will soon, possible at MWNY.)*
Special edition iPod with a 20 gig HD
A CRT display
special edition powerbook with either a 933 MHz chip or 1 Ghz chip with a larger L3 cache
* The differences between the two drives are, I believe, dvd write/read speed, and CD write/read speeds. I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.
First off, yes, apple do now use the A04, so that's allready been done.
Second, I don't see a 20Gb iPod, the 20Gb drive doesn't exist to make it, it's bigger than th 5 and 10Gb drives and so wouldn't fit.
I would LOVE for a 933Mhz or 1Ghz PB, but I doubt it, not yet, it's to soon after the release of the 800Mhz.

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
SJ ate crow when the eMac was released ("death of the CRT" with the G4 iMac).

Do you really think he would do it again and intro another CRT-based system? Not likely.

G5orbust-
A 17" CRT at 1600x1200 is not a pretty thing...hell, it's barely tolerable in a 19". The 23" CHD has a 1920x1200 max res...nice try though.:p

G5orbust-
Dude, there is no way they are making a CRT. Face the facts.

Why are you so adamant about this?

[swahilibill]

Look at this weird iPod/Palm that i came across


LOL

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by swahilibill
Look at this weird iPod/Palm that i came across


LOL
Very good but it's been done many, many times before, there are loads of these types of things floating about the gallerys at spymac.
Good effort though, not a bad job. :D

[mmmdreg]

I reckon monitor-wise, the 15" has to stay for way longer...bigger is still expensive for some, especially in Australia etc. but I can see the 22" dropping...it doesn't stand to much point...so whats the likelihood of the XServe being updated if the PowerMacs are boosted?

[britboy]

Originally posted by mmmdreg
so whats the likelihood of the XServe being updated if the PowerMacs are boosted?


Next to null. For a 1U, the XServe is already a powerful piece of kit. It doesn't need to be updated to stay competitive (not yet anyway). Also, i don't think it's so much a question of 'if' the towers are boosted, as 'by how much'.

[swahilibill]

thanks verbose

[barkmonster]

When the first studio display came out it could hook up to anything, even a TV, imagine it, no geffen adapters to buy, VGA, ADC and SVIDEO (or is it simply called AV ?) connectors. Anyone can buy the monitors and use them with any computer or device.I'm sure there's a lot of PC users who wouldn't mind an apple monitor instead of those boring grey or beige LCDs they have (some of the black LCDs look cool though) It would also mean you could order a stripped down G4 with 2 17" LCD monitors for a fair amount less than you can now. I think the amount you'd save on using the entry level radeon card instead of the GeForce4 Ti and Geffen adapter would almost pay for a second LCD monitor anyway. It's just that damn ADC connector that's making things expensive and giving geffen a licence to charge whatever they want for anything that solves the issue.

I'd gladly pay apple £50 - £80 ontop of the price of an LCD for a power adapter with built-in VGA, DVI and SVIDEO connectors if it was actually an option.

[iWalkMovies]

I know this is old news, but it's a very likely candidate for MWNY.

http://homepage.mac.com/iwalkmovies

[Rower_CPU]

Now I've seen everything...an iWalk troll!:rolleyes:

[iWalkMovies]

I don't have a forum to english dictionary... what's an iWalk troll?

You all hang out here a LOT, huh?

I will not.

-T

[GabrielX]

Originally posted by iWalkMovies
I don't have a forum to english dictionary... what's an iWalk troll?

You all hang out here a LOT, huh?

I will not.

-T

iWalk=Bad rumor of a Mac PDA posted last year.

troll=someone who is trying to get attention, usually by posting things that have been beaten to death.

Gabriel

[job]

Originally posted by swahilibill
Look at this weird iPod/Palm that i came across


LOL

Nicely photoshopped! :D

[Ouroboros]

Maybe the Apple Store will start carrying old first generation Macintosh . . . . fish tanks! Anyone ever seen this done? Damn funny I gotta say.

[mmmdreg]

Look at this weird iPod/Palm that i came across


LOL
i come across those things every day....like just lying around the house on tin cans and bouncing around the garden etc...:D j/k

[Postal]

I think they'll HAVE to update the Xserve alongside the PowerMacs; it's supposed to be the highest of high-end Apple systems, and people running server-class or supercomputer-class apps can use whatever power they can get. It would also help lure in more people who would only want one or two Xserves, and so would get much more bang for their buck.

In spite of that, I do hope the emphasis is on PowerMacs... if/when I go Mac shopping next year, I may end up getting an education or refurb Mac from the generation of hardware that comes out at MWNY.

[rugby]

Apple doesn't have to update the Xserve. a 1U server isn't supposed to be the greatest and most powerful. It's supposed to be small yet powerful. That's exactly what it is. The only thing it might be missing is faster cpu's, but what it offers in manageability more than makes up for that.


Originally posted by Postal
I think they'll HAVE to update the Xserve alongside the PowerMacs; it's supposed to be the highest of high-end Apple systems, and people running server-class or supercomputer-class apps can use whatever power they can get. It would also help lure in more people who would only want one or two Xserves, and so would get much more bang for their buck.

In spite of that, I do hope the emphasis is on PowerMacs... if/when I go Mac shopping next year, I may end up getting an education or refurb Mac from the generation of hardware that comes out at MWNY.

[mischief]

Based on Apple's rebate deals and current ship times:


New Towers:

Potentially a new enclosure.

Processors: 1Ghz to 1.4Ghz Apollo or (dare I say it) MP8550's

Bus at 133 Mhz w/ custom RAM controller running DDR 2100 as per Xserve.

Rapid I/O hoped for but not expected.

ATA 100 HW RAID controller on mobo.

FW2 hoped for but not expected.

Dump the internal Zip bay.

Potentially 802.11G option and bluetooth on mobo.

I'd love to see more but I doubt it.

For those of you interested in the G5 here's the embedded chip it will spawn from:http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sp...nodeId=01M98655


New OS rev.: X.2 $20.00 upgrade or $130.00 purchase


Upgrade to imac, perhaps ibook and TiBook.

Rev. monitors: 23" price drop.
22" discontinued
19" introduced.
17" price drop
15" discontinued

General trend toward higher resolutions per sq. inch.


Potential addition of a new input device to go with X.2 and scrible. Potential of custom Video card.

[MacViolinist]

For a prediction, I am going to have to go with the iGod. It's the uber-pda to end them all. iGod sports a snappy 2.0 Ghz G5 with 1.5 gigs of DDR-Ram, a 64 meg video card, one of the holographic hard drives that are 1 cubic cm in size and hold upwards of a terrabyte. The system bus is rumored to be in the 533 range, but that is unconfirmed at this point. It has a 6x6 screen that supports up to 3000x2000 resolution, and is .5 cm thick. The iGod comes bundled with OS X Jaguar Server, terrabit ethernet, a monkey to operate it for you, and a brain, so that you have something worth telling the monkey to do. If it is lacking any of the above mentioned features, I will shoot myself in the face, after purchasing whatever they do release.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by MacViolinist
For a prediction, I am going to have to go with the iGod. It's the uber-pda to end them all. iGod sports a snappy 2.0 Ghz G5 with 1.5 gigs of DDR-Ram, a 64 meg video card, one of the holographic hard drives that are 1 cubic cm in size and hold upwards of a terrabyte. The system bus is rumored to be in the 533 range, but that is unconfirmed at this point. It has a 6x6 screen that supports up to 3000x2000 resolution, and is .5 cm thick. The iGod comes bundled with OS X Jaguar Server, terrabit ethernet, a monkey to operate it for you, and a brain, so that you have something worth telling the monkey to do. If it is lacking any of the above mentioned features, I will shoot myself in the face, after purchasing whatever they do release.
WOW! Forget the iWalk, I want an iGod now! :D

[MacViolinist]

Originally posted by verbose101

WOW! Forget the iWalk, I want an iGod now! :D

Don't we all. I really think this is going to be Apple's ticket to gaining some serious market share. Now if someone will just get to a little photoshopping, and pretend that I am a reliable source for a few minutes, we can pay back SpyMac for that damned iWalk. :D

[rice_web]

I do not believe that we'll see the 15" LCD dropped unless the iMac also changed its LCD display. This is because Apple saves money when manufacturing in bulk. If they devote their efforts to the 15" LCD (which they currently seem to do), they can (1) lower prices, or (2) increase margins, which Apple loves.