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deepthought
Mar 2, 2004, 01:29 PM
I want to network a mac and a pc via an Airport extreme basestation

To quote from Apple
"To achieve maximum speed of 54Mbps the wireless network must only have AirPort Extreme-enabled computers on it."
Does this mean that a 802.11g enabled PC will not get up to 54Mbps?

It also says:
"If a user with an AirPort-enabled computer or a Wi-Fi certified 802.11b product joins an AirPort Extreme wireless network, that user will get up to 11Mbps and the AirPort Extreme users on the same wireless network will get less than 54Mbps."

I take it that this was written before 802.11g was widely available.
Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks


Deepthought


janey
Mar 2, 2004, 01:35 PM
thats BS...and yeah it probably was written before 802.11g was popular in the PC world.

Just keep in mind (god this must be like the 4th time i'm saying this this week) that AirPort Extreme aka 802.11g has a theoretical maximum speed of 54mbps.
idkew
Mar 2, 2004, 02:28 PM
thats BS...and yeah it probably was written before 802.11g was popular in the PC world.

Just keep in mind (god this must be like the 4th time i'm saying this this week) that AirPort Extreme aka 802.11g has a theoretical maximum speed of 54mbps.

also- remember that it is 54 mega BITS per second, not 54 mega BYTES per second. so, it is closer to (54/8 to make bits bytes) 6 MB per second.
SilentPanda
Mar 2, 2004, 02:44 PM
also- remember that it is 54 mega BITS per second, not 54 mega BYTES per second. so, it is closer to (54/8 to make bits bytes) 6 MB per second.

Also remember the putting a 10 pound ham between the airport card and base station will not increase your bandwidth. It's not documented anywhere but it's true.
bousozoku
Mar 2, 2004, 02:54 PM
I want to network a mac and a pc via an Airport extreme basestation

To quote from Apple
"To achieve maximum speed of 54Mbps the wireless network must only have AirPort Extreme-enabled computers on it."
Does this mean that a 802.11g enabled PC will not get up to 54Mbps?

It also says:
"If a user with an AirPort-enabled computer or a Wi-Fi certified 802.11b product joins an AirPort Extreme wireless network, that user will get up to 11Mbps and the AirPort Extreme users on the same wireless network will get less than 54Mbps."

I take it that this was written before 802.11g was widely available.
Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks


Deepthought

It's trying to say that the base station will not be able to operate at 54Mbps when there are 11 Mbps links attached to it. If there are no machines with 11 Mbps (802.11b) cards involved, it will operate at maximum speed. That is 54 Mbps with overhead and approximately 20 Mbps data throughput. This contrasts with 802.11b with 11 Mbps with overhead and approximately 5 Mbps throughput.
janey
Mar 2, 2004, 03:19 PM
also- remember that it is 54 mega BITS per second, not 54 mega BYTES per second. so, it is closer to (54/8 to make bits bytes) 6 MB per second.
6.75MB. also i said mbps, that implies i meant megabits :) (should be Mbps, because i'm afraid szark might yell at me again :p) megabytes per sec is MBps.
idkew
Mar 2, 2004, 03:41 PM
6.75MB. also i said mbps, that implies i meant megabits :) (should be Mbps, because i'm afraid szark might yell at me again :p) megabytes per sec is MBps.

i was not correcting you. i was adding to your message. :)
SilentPanda
Mar 2, 2004, 03:44 PM
And mine should have been a 10 pound turkey, not a 10 pound ham as previously noted. Ham does boost your airport speed whereas turkey does not.
idkew
Mar 2, 2004, 04:02 PM
And mine should have been a 10 pound turkey, not a 10 pound ham as previously noted. Ham does boost your airport speed whereas turkey does not.

is that a raw or cooked turkey? did you baste it? stuffing? these are all factors we must know about.
SilentPanda
Mar 2, 2004, 04:06 PM
is that a raw or cooked turkey? did you baste it? stuffing? these are all factors we must know about.

It was frozen. So no basting or stuffing.
Colonel Panik
Mar 3, 2004, 07:09 PM
Does anyone know about Netgear's 108Mbps wireless networks? They require that you use Netgear cards, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it?
I have the Netgear WGT624, but obviously with the airport card, I only get the 54Mbps speed (theoretically).

Are the airport extreme cards capable of this speed (is there an upgrade coming from Apple)? See this article (http://wifinetnews.com/archives/002349.html) about how D-Link 'g' users can download an update and upgrade their 54Mbps gear to 108Mbps.

??
crazzyeddie
Mar 3, 2004, 07:49 PM
Does anyone know about Netgear's 108Mbps wireless networks? They require that you use Netgear cards, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it?
I have the Netgear WGT624, but obviously with the airport card, I only get the 54Mbps speed (theoretically).

Are the airport extreme cards capable of this speed (is there an upgrade coming from Apple)? See this article (http://wifinetnews.com/archives/002349.html) about how D-Link 'g' users can download an update and upgrade their 54Mbps gear to 108Mbps.

??

The 108mbps is just two channels of 802.11g The same technology was used with 22mbps 802.11b routers.
Colonel Panik
Mar 4, 2004, 06:25 AM
The 108mbps is just two channels of 802.11g The same technology was used with 22mbps 802.11b routers.

A-ha. I can understand that. Thanks. Do you think that it's possible for the Apple Airport Extreme cards to be updated to use two channels simultaneously?
Bear
Mar 4, 2004, 07:51 AM
A-ha. I can understand that. Thanks. Do you think that it's possible for the Apple Airport Extreme cards to be updated to use two channels simultaneously?I don't know if Apple is going to do that. It is not part of the 802.11g specification. It is proprietary to Netgear.

With the doubling that happened for 802.11b, it was done in different [incompatable] ways by different companies. So unless it becomes part of the spec, I can't see Apple trying it.
Roger1
Mar 4, 2004, 08:44 AM
I haven't had much luck with Airports Extreme. They keep freezing up on me where I work (which then means I have to run around and reset them all-Apple, you listening?). But then again, I may be having issues because I have stuffing in my turkey. :p
SilentPanda
Mar 4, 2004, 08:46 AM
I haven't had much luck with Airports Extreme. They keep freezing up on me where I work (which then means I have to run around and reset them all-Apple, you listening?). But then again, I may be having issues because I have stuffing in my turkey. :p

Just put all the airport base stations on the same circuit. Then, whenever they're on the futz just flip the breaker switch... easier said than done I suppose... :)