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MacRumors
Mar 2, 2004, 04:07 PM
In your Software Update:

The AirPort 3.3.1 Update improves the reliability of AirPort connections when changing network locations. The update is recommended for all users with an AirPort Extreme and AirPort enabled computer or an AirPort Extreme base station.

Apple last updated Airport Software in January (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/01/20040126212428.shtml).



Trowaman
Mar 2, 2004, 04:08 PM
yay . . . upgrades!

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 04:10 PM
Wasn't in my software update for some reason :confused:

guyute
Mar 2, 2004, 04:13 PM
there is an idvd update as well

mactastic
Mar 2, 2004, 04:14 PM
Huh, wonder why the quick turnaround since the last update. That one didn't seem to break anything, so I wonder what prompted a second update within the last, what, 6 weeks? Oh well, I'll try it out when I get home tonight...

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 04:17 PM
Huh, wonder why the quick turnaround since the last update. That one didn't seem to break anything, so I wonder what prompted a second update within the last, what, 6 weeks? Oh well, I'll try it out when I get home tonight...

I wonder why it wasn't in Software Update. Strange. :confused:

guyute
Mar 2, 2004, 04:19 PM
it was in my software update.......

jeffgarden
Mar 2, 2004, 04:20 PM
yup, i got that and iDVD in my software update

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 04:21 PM
it was in my software update.......

When did you update, today or yesterday (Monday)?

guyute
Mar 2, 2004, 04:23 PM
today (tuesday)

Photorun
Mar 2, 2004, 04:23 PM
Woohoo!!! 3.3.1 is so much snappier than 3.3.0! Go Apple!

[/sarcasm]

c'mon Apple, give us some real updates some year, like hardware?!?

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 04:25 PM
today (tuesday)

That might explain it. I updated yesterday & it wasn't available in Software Update then. Only came on Software today. Strange, but that explains it

:confused:

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 04:26 PM
Woohoo!!! 3.3.1 is so much snappier than 3.3.0! Go Apple!

[/sarcasm]

c'mon Apple, give us some real updates some year, like hardware?!?

Is it? I haven't noticed much difference. Is there a way to benchmark it?

missed the /sarcasm

BTW: this forum is about 100 time faster than Apple's and MacNN's forums. Impressive :D

frenetic
Mar 2, 2004, 04:34 PM
Huh, wonder why the quick turnaround since the last update. That one didn't seem to break anything, so I wonder what prompted a second update within the last, what, 6 weeks? Oh well, I'll try it out when I get home tonight...

I think there were some problems with kernel panics when switching from airport to ethernet networks on different locations - I think I remember something like that on Macfixit. Maybe this fixes it...

Engagebot
Mar 2, 2004, 04:44 PM
maybe we'll stop having the problems with linksys routers now.

sometimes tough to get the girl at the coffee shop to reset the router for you because stupid AE lets you on the network but cant connect to the internet.

Bilba
Mar 2, 2004, 04:44 PM
Maybe I am losing it, but was it always possible to enable "Interference Robustness" ? If so, does this thing actually works?

vollspacken
Mar 2, 2004, 04:53 PM
maybe this will finally fix all the trouble I have with Airport crashing Mail, Stuffit, the Finder and causing startup delay

(I know it's Airport, because when tuned off, everything runs supersmooth..!)

vSpacken

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 04:53 PM
stupid AE

Then why use it?

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 04:58 PM
Maybe I am losing it, but was it always possible to enable "Interference Robustness" ? If so, does this thing actually works?

Bilba,
It's always been there. It's a strange button for a Mac, isn't it. Here we are using the first & best GUI on the planet and they stick an option called "inteference robustness" right in front of us. I mean, what are they thinking? Why not just call it something like

"Click This Option When You Are Microwaving Popcorn Within A 30 Feet Radius Of The CPU"

It's always been there. I've tested it out, and haven't noticed any significant improvement. Apparently it helps when other networks or wireless devices, or indeed microwaves are in range, but it will depends on the details of your whereabouts. :)

Engagebot
Mar 2, 2004, 05:01 PM
Then why use it?

what kind of remark is that? how about "i use airport extreme because its basically the only wireless solution for my >$2000 laptop, and i dont feel like buying another laptop just because it has issues with certain models/revisions of linksys B routers".

Does that work better for you?

I have a linksys b router at home, and i have to reset it ever other day or so because the powerbook wont be able to access the internet. if i go to a coffee shop or somewhere on my campus that uses a linksys router, alot of times i cant get online because i cant reset the router. my girlfriend works at one coffee shop here, so i can get back there and reset it when i need. and when i reset it, AE works like a charm.

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 05:09 PM
what kind of remark is that? how about "i use airport extreme because its basically the only wireless solution for my >$2000 laptop, and i dont feel like buying another laptop just because it has issues with certain models/revisions of linksys B routers".

Does that work better for you?

I have a linksys b router at home, and i have to reset it ever other day or so because the powerbook wont be able to access the internet. if i go to a coffee shop or somewhere on my campus that uses a linksys router, alot of times i cant get online because i cant reset the router. my girlfriend works at one coffee shop here, so i can get back there and reset it when i need. and when i reset it, AE works like a charm.

Engagebot,
There are solutions. First off, if you're on a 15" Al then you are using Airport Extreme. Why not think about upgrading your home router to a 802.11g setup? Worked for me. I use the Linksys G Router/Access Point and it's pretty damn solid, faster and more reliable.

Another thing, have you tried updating your firmare on your home router? Might sounds obvious but it might be the solution you need.

Lastly, when you are next at your coffee shop why don't you go to login to the browser based settings of the router and update its firmware. That way you can stop asking your girlfriend to go "around the back" to reboot your router.

Like I said, there are solutions.

realityisterror
Mar 2, 2004, 05:12 PM
is it just me or is having to restart after all these little updates that don't make a difference to most of us really annoying?
just a thought...

reality

lazyrighteye
Mar 2, 2004, 05:13 PM
Guyute was the ugly pig...

Anyway, updates are good. Keep 'em comin.

Engagebot
Mar 2, 2004, 05:16 PM
Engagebot,
There are solutions. First off, if you're on a 15" Al then you are using Airport Extreme. Why not think about upgrading your home router to a 802.11g setup? Worked for me. I use the Linksys G Router/Access Point and it's pretty damn solid, faster and more reliable.

Another thing, have you tried updating your firmare on your home router? Might sounds obvious but it might be the solution you need.

Lastly, when you are next at your coffee shop why don't you go to login to the browser based settings of the router and update its firmware. That way you can stop asking your girlfriend to go "around the back" to reboot your router.

Like I said, there are solutions.

Yeah, sorry but you're kind of preaching to the choir here. I'm a semester away from my computer science degree and i'm an apple developer. i've updated firmware all over the place, and it just doesnt help. alot of LSU's campus is unfortunately made of linksys access points, so im out of luck alot of the time. i bought the linksys in my house when i had my old ibook, and it worked great. i use my hardwired pc most of the time at my house anyway, so it doesnt bother me enough to buy a new router. plus i can see 4 other open networks from my bedroom...

when i discovered the coffee shop had their router set to all defaults, i took the liberty of setting up their passwords and such for them. If i go there and cant get on the 'net, i just get into the router and drop/renew everybody and then it works great.

its just a problem between linksys and AE, and i'm hoping one of these AE revisions fixes it, because i dont think linksys cares enough...

BKB
Mar 2, 2004, 05:23 PM
Yeah, sorry but you're kind of preaching to the choir here. I'm a semester away from my computer science degree and i'm an apple developer. i've updated firmware all over the place, and it just doesnt help. alot of LSU's campus is unfortunately made of linksys access points, so im out of luck alot of the time. i bought the linksys in my house when i had my old ibook, and it worked great. i use my hardwired pc most of the time at my house anyway, so it doesnt bother me enough to buy a new router. plus i can see 4 other open networks from my bedroom...

when i discovered the coffee shop had their router set to all defaults, i took the liberty of setting up their passwords and such for them. If i go there and cant get on the 'net, i just get into the router and drop/renew everybody and then it works great.

its just a problem between linksys and AE, and i'm hoping one of these AE revisions fixes it, because i dont think linksys cares enough...

I see, I see. Hail Winston Churchill II. Apologies for the sermon.

Azuran
Mar 2, 2004, 05:28 PM
Ok i have installed the update twice now and the damn thing keeps coming back in the SU

I know of two other people in the irc channel have the same prob just wondering if we are alone

proglife
Mar 2, 2004, 05:29 PM
Guyute was the ugly pig...


...who walked on me and danced a jig.

I just turned on encryption after 3 months and realizing there was someone on my network. I'm an 'effin genious.

russed
Mar 2, 2004, 05:33 PM
any update is a good update! well atleast it gives us something to talk about, or rather how nothng appears to change!

patmcfar8
Mar 2, 2004, 06:30 PM
FWIW, I have a Linksys B router at home that I've used with both an Airport card (TiPB) and Airport Extreme card (AlPB) and had no ill effects. I've only upgraded the firmware once in the past year.

All though I must say that I believe my over all connection speeds seems to have decreased a little with the AE on the faster PB... go figure. I first chalked it up to SBC slowing down with more local business, but now I think it might be something with my new set up.

I'm thinking about upgrading to a wireless G router, any suggestions?

rtdunham
Mar 2, 2004, 07:28 PM
am i also supposed to apply this update if two of the three access points in my house are 811g linksys wireless access points? (the third is a standard, first-gen airport base station) Or is it ONLY for apple airport extreme base stations?

terry

Wonder Boy
Mar 2, 2004, 07:54 PM
Guyute was the ugly pig...

Who walked on me and danced a jig.


i've never had any problem going from my home wireless connection to the wireless realms of atleast 5 places i often go to. anything to help from 2.4ghz phone interference is more than welcomed.

edit: proglife, you are a quicker man than i

rog
Mar 2, 2004, 07:57 PM
Cool, now I get 5 bars instead of the normal 4!

mactastic
Mar 2, 2004, 09:48 PM
So I take it this was an update for our computers only, IOW there is nothing to upload to the base station this time?

macFanDave
Mar 2, 2004, 10:00 PM
Wasn't in my software update for some reason :confused:

you had to have installed 3.3.

Since I am using a DLink 802.11b router and it works great, I have decided not to screw with any of the recent AirPort updates since they seem to be mostly for AirPort Extreme networks (and, I assume, an AirPort-based computer that deals with an AE base station.)

DrEasy
Mar 2, 2004, 11:12 PM
When I first bought my iBook and it didn't work with my Linksys wireless router I googled for days (well, Apple's tech support was not much help there) and didn't find any solution to my problem. Eventually the problem went away and I never knew how. This is the first time I see other people talking about resetting the router being the solution. So that must be what I did that fixed it. I really hope this update fixes the problem for good because Linksys routers are everywhere and my AE card would be useless if it didn't work with them without resetting the routers.

Migs
Mar 3, 2004, 12:34 AM
when i discovered the coffee shop had their router set to all defaults, i took the liberty of setting up their passwords and such for them. If i go there and cant get on the 'net, i just get into the router and drop/renew everybody and then it works great.

Engagebot, if you have access you might try changing the transmission rates on the linksys. I think setting it to 2 mb/s cleared my problems up. Just a thought...

stcanard
Mar 3, 2004, 01:40 AM
Is this an AEBS only update?

I've got an Al Pb, with AE in it. I see the update in software update, but it's not automatically checked for update, so I would expect Apple doesn't consider it necessary for my system.

I just checked and my last AirPort software update was Jan 23 so presumably I'm on 3.3.0.

Apple][Forever
Mar 3, 2004, 02:48 AM
i've been getting hard lockups due to airport this week for the first time since installing 10.3, and i think it's because of the 3.3 update. If this 3.3.1 doesn't fix anything, anyone know what version of Airport extensions shipped w/ 10.3.2? I don't feel like doing a reinstall.

BKB
Mar 3, 2004, 11:35 AM
you had to have installed 3.3.

Thanks but I did. The update didn't show up on SU until a day after it was posted on the web.

cpjakes
Mar 4, 2004, 08:08 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I've got one more bar of signal strength than I had before the update. And that's in the basement and across the house!

musicpyrite
Mar 4, 2004, 08:43 PM
i couldnt find the update in my softwear up date but when you launch airport admin utility it promps you to upgrade, is this turnig into windowz and micro$oft?

areyouwishing
Mar 5, 2004, 02:58 AM
its just a problem between linksys and AE, and i'm hoping one of these AE revisions fixes it, because i dont think linksys cares enough...

I can confirm that this is also a problem with my NetGear 802.11b and my powerbook 12". It works fine until I turn on my PC hardwired into the router, as soon as i do that, WHAM, the router needs to be reset. I think it might be possible that the people that are saying they don't have problems with this "reset" issue, may just be using wireless and no hard wired computers... just a thought though. I am praying for a solution to this problem, its rather annoying.

PS Yes, the firmware is upgraded on the router.