Mac OS X 10.3.3. build 7F38 [Archive]

MacRumors

Mar 5, 2004, 10:32 AM

Apple seeded Mac OS X 10.3.3 7F38 on Thursday to developers. Key enhancements are said to include:

- network volumes are now available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop for convenient access
- improved file sharing and directory services for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS) and PC (SMB/CIFS) networks
- improved PostScript and USB printing
- improved font management
- updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications
- iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync
- additional support for FireWire and USB devices
- new ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- FileVault, FireWire 800 and WebDAV improvements from Update 10.3.1
- previous standalone security updates and Bluetooth Update 1.5

robotrenegade

Mar 5, 2004, 10:35 AM

Sounds sweet send it out!

dukemeiser

Mar 5, 2004, 10:36 AM

Looks like a healthy update. It will probably be released to the public sometime next week. Too bad iPod at Home isn't on the list. :(

sphereboy

Mar 5, 2004, 10:38 AM

any idea when it will be released? network drives on desktop sounds mighty fine to me!

TBR

Mar 5, 2004, 10:39 AM

Looks like a healthy update. It will probably be released to the public sometime next week. Too bad iPod at Home isn't on the list. :(

iPod at Home??

1macker1

Mar 5, 2004, 10:39 AM

Graphic card drivers!!!

mactastic

Mar 5, 2004, 10:43 AM

Wow, that's quite a nice little package. I'll take network and graphics updates anytime! And Safari and Mail too? Guess it won't be long now until it shows up in SU.

SilentPanda

Mar 5, 2004, 10:43 AM

I'm stoked... it looks like tangible updates to me. I hate doing things like security updates and most other updates for that matter I guess. I rarely notice anything different. I'm always excited when they list programs I use in the update... although sometimes it's just background stuff that I'll probably never notice. Oh well...

Last night I turned off my iBook (which I normally don't do). I only turned it off because I had had it encoding video since Monday and I felt bad for the poor thing. So I let it rest.

SilentPanda

Mar 5, 2004, 10:46 AM

iPod at Home??
Something that was mentioned on Apple's web site for Panther but never showed up and was removed from the web site. In short it let you store your home directory on your iPod and then you could log into your desktop by plugging your iPod into a Mac and logging in with your username/password....

CaptainScarlet

Mar 5, 2004, 10:48 AM

TBR

Mar 5, 2004, 10:48 AM

Something that was mentioned on Apple's web site for Panther but never showed up and was removed from the web site. In short it let you store your home directory on your iPod and then you could log into your desktop by plugging your iPod into a Mac and logging in with your username/password....

Now that sounds like a pretty cool idea. Like the sound of that.....although as I have never met another mac user in my life, not much need :(

PlaceofDis

Mar 5, 2004, 10:56 AM

maybe this will get the ball rolling for other updates....maybe even hardware updates.....people can dream you know......but only for so long...

encro

Mar 5, 2004, 11:00 AM

So the description has the same details as 7F34? what was fixed or changed in 7F38?

The new graphics drivers are apparently 15-17% faster than those included with 10.3.2.

encro

Mar 5, 2004, 11:03 AM

Has anybody noticed that Mac software releases have been pretty much Blah!?!?!? Not just system software but everything!! I hope this sparks some new stuff, somewhere down the line.... I'm pretty bored on my Mac these days......

I agree with you. nothing special, nothing innovative. it's currently dull dull dull.

Can't wait for WWDC!!!

keysersoze

Mar 5, 2004, 11:11 AM

Does anybody know if this build increases/decreases the size? I think the last was around 65MB. Correct me if I'm wrong about that...

I've only got a 56K dial-up connection for DL's... :(

jeffgarden

Mar 5, 2004, 11:28 AM

heh, one of the updates is that iTunes will recognize iPods plugged in with USB 2.0 :P

Personally, I think iDisk should work a little better when you don't have it stored locally. It seems like it's killing Finder when you're using it, even on a T1 connection. If you scroll too much it often requires a Finder relaunch. not everytime or anything, but i mean compared to the overal Mac experience, using iDisk kinda lags behind

marke

Mar 5, 2004, 11:30 AM

Apple seeded Mac OS X 10.3.3 7F38 on Thursday to developers. Key enhancements are said to include:

- network volumes are now available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop for convenient access

How is this different from the way network volumes are currently available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop?

http://www.thebigreason.com/signatures/nw.jpg

johnnyjibbs

Mar 5, 2004, 11:37 AM

This sounds like a hefty update. Even more improved graphics drivers? Great! I hope the networking instabilities get fixed. I can't wait.

dongmin

Mar 5, 2004, 11:47 AM

How is this different from the way network volumes are currently available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop?

http://www.thebigreason.com/signatures/nw.jpg

aha i think the change will allow you to put an alias of your network drive in your sidebar. right now, the volumes only appear after you log on. you can't simply drag them to the sidebar to save them for one-click access.

encro

Mar 5, 2004, 11:51 AM

Does anybody know if this build increases/decreases the size? I think the last was around 65MB. Correct me if I'm wrong about that...

I've only got a 56K dial-up connection for DL's... :(

10.3.3 7F38 is just under 70MB

LeonPro

Mar 5, 2004, 12:02 PM

I wonder that when they do release this latest build, if they will put it out to CD like in the past and replace those initial 10.3. The reason I ask is I'm still using Jaguar and it would be a drag to buy the Panther and go thru the updates one by one after changing the OS.

Besides, wasn't the initial Panther release buggy?

solafide

Mar 5, 2004, 12:21 PM

wrldwzrd89

Mar 5, 2004, 12:22 PM

aha i think the change will allow you to put an alias of your network drive in your sidebar. right now, the volumes only appear after you log on. you can't simply drag them to the sidebar to save them for one-click access.
That would be a nice feature. I'd download and install the update just for that (I use network drives quite a bit; any improvements there are welcome).

pgwalsh

Mar 5, 2004, 12:28 PM

Has anybody noticed that Mac software releases have been pretty much Blah!?!?!? Not just system software but everything!! I hope this sparks some new stuff, somewhere down the line.... I'm pretty bored on my Mac these days......

CS....outAre you referring to the OS? Because I think the iLife apps have been great. Garageband is fantastic. What type of things were you looking for?

amake

Mar 5, 2004, 12:31 PM

Sometimes they say two documents come (Mac's invisible companion files and some kind of MIME conflict?), but in call cases they cannot open them any more.That's probably them seeing the data fork and resource fork as separate files. Did you try checking "send Windows-friendly attachments" under Attachments in the Edit menu of Mail.app?

wrldwzrd89

Mar 5, 2004, 12:31 PM

Are you referring to the OS? Because I think the iLife apps have been great. Garageband is fantastic. What type of things were you looking for?
My guess is that CaptainScarlet was referring to third-party applications (although Apple's apps might also be included). I haven't used the new iLife yet, pgwalsh, so I'm in no position to comment on it.

Fabrix2003

Mar 5, 2004, 12:32 PM

I agree i think that the fact of students like mme that go to college a lot and always have to access the network folder by waiting for it to ackknowledge going thru each folder time after time gets annoying one click feature is gonna help students not get baffled and annoyed like me. Will the updated drivers improve performance on mobile laptops like powerbook G4s for example :confused:

amake

Mar 5, 2004, 12:33 PM

How is this different from the way network volumes are currently available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop?
Shares accessed by going to the Network autodetect thing don't show up on my desktop or in my sidebar even though I have the appropriate preference enabled (as in your picture). They do show up in both if I access them via Connect To Server... in the Finder's Go menu, which is probably what you did to get that share mounted.

wrldwzrd89

Mar 5, 2004, 12:34 PM

"updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications"

Has anyone else had problems with email since the last update to 10.3? Windows colleagues no longer can open my Office documents, although they could before the last update. My workaround is to zip them first. Sometimes they say two documents come (Mac's invisible companion files and some kind of MIME conflict?), but in call cases they cannot open them any more.
Don't forget that Windows users need extensions on their files to be able to open them. I agree with a previous poster that mentioned the resource fork as a possible cause. As it turns out, zipping files also strips them of their resource forks, which explains why zipping files before sending them works like it does.

MongoTheGeek

Mar 5, 2004, 12:43 PM

Shares accessed by going to the Network autodetect thing don't show up on my desktop or in my sidebar even though I have the appropriate preference enabled (as in your picture). They do show up in both if I access them via Connect To Server... in the Finder's Go menu, which is probably what you did to get that share mounted.

Additionally mounting via the browser doesn't seem to acknowledge keychain either :(

System updates are good, usually.

Besides this revision is required for the g5 powerbooks.

keysersoze

Mar 5, 2004, 12:46 PM

10.3.3 7F38 is just under 70MB

Thanks for the Info, encro. So exciting, yet so undownloadable, for us on slow-speed connections.

Stike

Mar 5, 2004, 12:50 PM

Thanks for the Info, encro. So exciting, yet so undownloadable, for us on slow-speed connections.
Ask a friend, and let you send the update on a CD-R... there are options :) And Mac Users like to have options... ;) :D

nagromme

Mar 5, 2004, 01:02 PM

Currently volumes do NOT appear on the desktop if you browse to them via Rendezvous. That's a fix I'll welcome. Esepcially if you can connect AND disconnect reliably without messing with IP numbers.

And USB support for iPod is good: now it can work with my pre-Firewire Mac maybe! Not vital, but nice. (Only USB 1.1, but still ought to work.)

JW Pepper

Mar 5, 2004, 01:10 PM

Graphic card drivers!!!

For the NEW G5's of course.

CaptainScarlet

Mar 5, 2004, 01:15 PM

Are you referring to the OS? Because I think the iLife apps have been great. Garageband is fantastic. What type of things were you looking for?

Yes Garageband is great!!! But that's just 1 program. How much music can you do!??!! Let me say...How much GOOD music can you do?!?!?!

If you look at what has been released since then, it's been blah.....

CaptainScarlet

Mar 5, 2004, 01:22 PM

My guess is that CaptainScarlet was referring to third-party applications (although Apple's apps might also be included). I haven't used the new iLife yet, pgwalsh, so I'm in no position to comment on it.

Right....Everything....

Even on the PC side of things....The games lately, have been crap!!

Maybe I'm just bored with the whole scene!!!

My God did I just say that?!!?!

Please someone slap me in the face!!!

CS.................

wrldwzrd89

Mar 5, 2004, 01:36 PM

Right....Everything....

Even on the PC side of things....The games lately, have been crap!!

Maybe I'm just bored with the whole scene!!!

My God did I just say that?!!?!

Please someone slap me in the face!!!

CS.................
I'm working on an RPG for the Mac that should liven things up. I guess it's too bad for you that it's nowhere near being ready for release (I haven't written any code yet).

encro

Mar 5, 2004, 01:36 PM

I'll take a guess that this will be in Software Update on Tuesday :)

wrldwzrd89

Mar 5, 2004, 01:38 PM

I'll take a guess that this will be in Software Update on Tuesday :)
If it's as close to being ready for release as the rumor mill says it is, then it most certainly will be there, waiting for you (and I) to download (or so we hope).

stingerman

Mar 5, 2004, 01:44 PM

Don't forget that Windows users need extensions on their files to be able to open them. I agree with a previous poster that mentioned the resource fork as a possible cause. As it turns out, zipping files also strips them of their resource forks, which explains why zipping files before sending them works like it does.

OS X files no longer use the old OS 9 resource forks. But when sending mail to Windows users make sure you use the File->Attach Menu option, select the files and make sure to check the "Send Attachments to Windows users" checkbox.

iShater

Mar 5, 2004, 01:45 PM

"updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications"

Has anyone else had problems with email since the last update to 10.3? Windows colleagues no longer can open my Office documents, although they could before the last update. My workaround is to zip them first. Sometimes they say two documents come (Mac's invisible companion files and some kind of MIME conflict?), but in call cases they cannot open them any more.

That happened to me in Jaguar. I sent two word documents to my office, and they came in as a MIME file that was the real file, and the original .doc file which was bad. I had to rename the MIME file to the original name and it worked on the Windows side. Not sure why it happened, I haven't tried it again yet.

amake

Mar 5, 2004, 01:54 PM

OS X files no longer use the old OS 9 resource forks. But when sending mail to Windows users make sure you use the File->Attach Menu option, select the files and make sure to check the "Send Attachments to Windows users" checkbox.
That's not true. OS X still respects type/creator codes, which are stored in the resource fork. Some apps put these in automatically (Word) but many rely only on extensions.

Image previews are also stored in resource forks. Resource forks are NOT dead and gone.

Edot

Mar 5, 2004, 01:55 PM

"updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications"

Has anyone else had problems with email since the last update to 10.3? Windows colleagues no longer can open my Office documents, although they could before the last update. My workaround is to zip them first. Sometimes they say two documents come (Mac's invisible companion files and some kind of MIME conflict?), but in call cases they cannot open them any more.

Are you remembering to check the "Send Windows Friendly Attachments" box when you are selecting the file to attach? If it worked in 10.3.x before 10.3.2 then I am sure you are, but just checking.

wrldwzrd89

Mar 5, 2004, 01:58 PM

That's not true. OS X still respects type/creator codes, which are stored in the resource fork. Some apps put these in automatically (Word) but many rely only on extensions.

Image previews are also stored in resource forks. Resource forks are NOT dead and gone.
Not only that, but resource forks on the Mac won't die completely until we switch to a filesystem other than HFS (which is the only filesystem I know of that supports multiple forks), and thus have to abandon Classic.

eSnow

Mar 5, 2004, 03:08 PM

Not only that, but resource forks on the Mac won't die completely until we switch to a filesystem other than HFS (which is the only filesystem I know of that supports multiple forks), and thus have to abandon Classic.

Ironically, NTFS supports forks just as well...

Darrin Bell

Mar 5, 2004, 04:12 PM

I'm just happy to hear the update has USB printing improvements. Hopefully I'll be able to use my HP LaserJet 1200 now. It's been dead ever since I upgraded to Panther.

Fukui

Mar 5, 2004, 04:14 PM

solafide

Mar 5, 2004, 04:23 PM

That's probably them seeing the data fork and resource fork as separate files. Did you try checking "send Windows-friendly attachments" under Attachments in the Edit menu of Mail.app?

This setting probably referred back to default (off) when the last update was applied.

Thanks again.

beatle888

Mar 5, 2004, 04:29 PM

aha i think the change will allow you to put an alias of your network drive in your sidebar. right now, the volumes only appear after you log on. you can't simply drag them to the sidebar to save them for one-click access.

i have all our servers in the dock for easy one click access using jaquar. you cant do that in panther with the window side pane?

keysersoze

Mar 5, 2004, 04:34 PM

i have all our servers in the dock for easy one click access using jaquar. you cant do that in panther with the window side pane?

soon grasshopper, soon.... it will work the way we want it to. Those who can dl the update....rrrrr

CalfCanuck

Mar 5, 2004, 04:42 PM

i have all our servers in the dock for easy one click access using jaquar. you cant do that in panther with the window side pane?
I think the issue is that you can currently only return to the most recently used server via an alias. After I connect to a second server, the alias to the first server (in my dock) no longer works until I reconnect again through the "Connect to Server" command.

Hopefully this update will allow permanent aliases.

sedarby

Mar 5, 2004, 04:44 PM

Additionally mounting via the browser doesn't seem to acknowledge keychain either :(

System updates are good, usually.

Besides this revision is required for the g5 powerbooks.

Ha! We'll be at 10.5 before you see a G5 Powerbook. :D

aswitcher

Mar 5, 2004, 04:59 PM

Apple seeded Mac OS X 10.3.3 7F38 on Thursday to developers. Key enhancements are said to include:

- network volumes are now available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop for convenient access

* NICE

- improved file sharing and directory services for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS) and PC (SMB/CIFS) networks
- improved PostScript and USB printing
- improved font management
- updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications
- iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync
- additional support for FireWire and USB devices
- new ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers

*EXCELLENT. Looks like they have recognised the desire for more options and power

- improved compatibility for third party applications
- FileVault, FireWire 800 and WebDAV improvements from Update 10.3.1

* FIREVAULT so cool but is pretty damn scary if it goes tits up. I am not sure how they can convince me to use it...

- previous standalone security updates and Bluetooth Update 1.5

* NICE to see they are bundling things up

visor

Mar 5, 2004, 05:02 PM

"updated Disk Utility, DVD Player, Image Capture, Mail and Safari applications"

Has anyone else had problems with email since the last update to 10.3? Windows colleagues no longer can open my Office documents, although they could before the last update. My workaround is to zip them first. Sometimes they say two documents come (Mac's invisible companion files and some kind of MIME conflict?), but in call cases they cannot open them any more.

Yes, I had some problems with attachments sent by mail. I figured that checking 'send windows compatible' in the attachment dialog fixes that.
When simply draggin and dropping into the mail it can cause problems.

huckleup

Mar 5, 2004, 05:15 PM

As it turns out, zipping files also strips them of their resource forks, which explains why zipping files before sending them works like it does.

FYI, zipping does not necessarily strip resource forks. If you use the "Create Archive" contextual menu item in the Finder, it preserves the resource forks in the zip archive it creates. MacZip and Stuffit also preserves them. It may be that they transparently do a MacBinary flattening on the file first, but still it is possible to maintain resource forks in zip files.

I don't know what happens if you use gzip on the command line, that may not work correctly. And of course if you use a zip program on some other platform, like Linux or PC, then it probably won't preserve them.

Stike

Mar 5, 2004, 05:36 PM

Just got word from someone that 10.3.3 will be coming next week.
I cant confirm anything, but he seemed very confident!

Lets go hunt the bugs! :D

wrldwzrd89

Mar 5, 2004, 05:47 PM

FYI, zipping does not necessarily strip resource forks. If you use the "Create Archive" contextual menu item in the Finder, it preserves the resource forks in the zip archive it creates. MacZip and Stuffit also preserves them. It may be that they transparently do a MacBinary flattening on the file first, but still it is possible to maintain resource forks in zip files.

I don't know what happens if you use gzip on the command line, that may not work correctly. And of course if you use a zip program on some other platform, like Linux or PC, then it probably won't preserve them.
I forgot about those; anyway, I read somewhere that the zipping process strips resource forks unless the resource fork is stripped from the original file and zipped separately, then reassembled by a program that understands resource forks (Windows zip programs obviously won't do this). Therefore resource fork preservation in zip archives is essentially a hack.

Matrix9180

Mar 5, 2004, 06:22 PM

Just got word from someone that 10.3.3 will be coming next week.
I cant confirm anything, but he seemed very confident!

Lets go hunt the bugs! :D

Heh... Pretty much any dev seed means that the official release will be coming out the next week, as long as there are no major problems ;)

Stike

Mar 5, 2004, 06:39 PM

Heh... Pretty much any dev seed means that the official release will be coming out the next week, as long as there are no major problems ;)
Oh - oops. You never stop learning... ;)

Nermal

Mar 5, 2004, 07:05 PM

Ironically, NTFS supports forks just as well...

I think that's from the OS/2 days. There were all sorts of "tricks" you could do back then :)

manu chao

Mar 5, 2004, 08:00 PM

I forgot about those; anyway, I read somewhere that the zipping process strips resource forks unless the resource fork is stripped from the original file and zipped separately, then reassembled by a program that understands resource forks (Windows zip programs obviously won't do this). Therefore resource fork preservation in zip archives is essentially a hack.
I just zipped a couple of PS1 fonts (LaTeX) with Stuffit 8.0.2 in Panther, after unzipping them, all them were labelled unix executables. Strange, next time I use .sitx for such special files like fonts.

invaLPsion

Mar 5, 2004, 08:24 PM

Various sources are saying that the new powermacs rely on updates from 10.3.3. This is because the new powermacs will use the RadeonXTs, so new graphics drivers are obviously needed. When the new patch comes out, new powermacs will not be far behind!

Grimace

Mar 5, 2004, 09:07 PM

I'm almost at the point where I think I *need* a Powermac. The biggest thing I want is faster Superdrives!! The ones right now are soooooo slow. :(

SallyWattle

Mar 5, 2004, 09:07 PM

How is this different from the way network volumes are currently available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop?

When you browse the network and log-in to a remote computer, there is no icon on the desktop. The main problem is, how do you eject / put away the network connection, or how do you know if you are still connected.

But when I use apple script to log-in the icon does appear on the desktop.

cb911

Mar 5, 2004, 09:38 PM

sounds like this will be quite a good update. lets hope they've got all the bugs ironed out, or at least the big ones. :p

Nermal

Mar 6, 2004, 02:09 AM

I just zipped a couple of PS1 fonts (LaTeX) with Stuffit 8.0.2 in Panther, after unzipping them, all them were labelled unix executables. Strange, next time I use .sitx for such special files like fonts.

Don't use StuffIt to make zips, just Control-click the file or folder you want to zip and choose Create Archive. It'll preserve all the Mac-specific stuff.

drlunanerd

Mar 6, 2004, 11:09 AM

I'm almost at the point where I think I *need* a Powermac. The biggest thing I want is faster Superdrives!! The ones right now are soooooo slow. :(

Whack in a Pioneer DVR-106 (native 4x burning in Panther) or a DVR-107 (8x burning, works in Panther with an easy hack - supposedly native in 10.3.3, possibly indicating this drive will be used in PowerMac G5 revisions).

For a Rev A. Powerbook 17", update the firmware to go from 1x to 2x burning.

No new Mac purchase necessary!

wdlove

Mar 6, 2004, 12:12 PM

sounds like this will be quite a good update. lets hope they've got all the bugs ironed out, or at least the big ones. :p

I agree. To be safe though, I think I will wait a while till it has been tested by some of the experts here on the forum. Their approval means a lot.

Fabrix2003

Mar 6, 2004, 01:00 PM

I agree. To be safe though, I think I will wait a while till it has been tested by some of the experts here on the forum. Their approval means a lot.

Yeah but do you think theres an essance of a chance you could like contact apple to say you are willing to help out and get an update sent to you, think i heard they do similar thigns with beta testers on game formats.

WM.

Mar 6, 2004, 04:53 PM

Yeah but do you think theres an essance of a chance you could like contact apple to say you are willing to help out and get an update sent to you, think i heard they do similar thigns with beta testers on game formats.
There is something called the AppleSeed program, in which they seed pre-release software to fairly normal end-users (as opposed to developers [members of the ADC]). I can't recall anyone on a forum ever admitting to being an AppleSeed participant--either there aren't very many of them or they sign a pretty serious NDA (or maybe both). Also, last I checked Apple wasn't seeking any new participants. I would like to be one of them, though... :)

WM

edit: http://appleseed.apple.com

Hes Nikke

Mar 7, 2004, 02:19 AM

How is this different from the way network volumes are currently available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop?

http://www.thebigreason.com/signatures/nw.jpg

In Panther, there are two ways to connect to network shares. The 1st way (the way I always do it, and apparently you as well) is to use Go -> Connect to Server, and give it a URL, or choose from a list of recent/favorite servers. This will place the network share you just logged into on the sidebar and/or on your desktop, depending on the way you have your Finder Preferences set. The other way to connect to a server is to browse the network using the handy dandy Network icon in the sidebar. The results are currently somewhat unmaclike in that once you connect to a server, there is no obvious way to disconnect from the server, short of logging out of the local system, or pulling your network plug. Interestingly, if you Change out a couple of the terms*, Windows works in the exact same way.

My interpretation of the new feature, is that when you connect to a server from the Network icon, the server will show up on the sidebar/Desktop just like if you had connected using the Go menu. This would make me happy, and i'd probably even use the browsing method more often if that was the case.

*the terms to replace are Go -> Connect to Server with Right click on My Network Places and chose Map Network Drive, and handy dandy Network icon with My Network Places

aswitcher

Mar 7, 2004, 02:36 AM

SNIP

My interpretation of the new feature, is that when you connect to a server from the Network icon, the server will show up on the sidebar/Desktop just like if you had connected using the Go menu. This would make me happy, and i'd probably even use the browsing method more often if that was the case.

*the terms to replace are Go -> Connect to Server with Right click on My Network Places and chose Map Network Drive, and handy dandy Network icon with My Network Places

It does look like a nice feature if thats the way it works.

johnnyjibbs

Mar 7, 2004, 08:01 AM

I sent a "Windows-friendly attachment" (just a picture) with an email to my mum's PC and she couldn't open it. So I always make sure I DON'T check the box. :confused:

10.3.3 sounds so good. And the OS is already so good. I really like Panther and the way Apple is developing it. Hopefully the fix should stop the Finder from crashing or hanging for ages when browsing networks. And yet another Safari update?

AppleMatt

Mar 7, 2004, 11:48 AM

To ^, there is both a Safari and WebCore update in the 10.3.3 release :)

I'm hoping it comes this Tuesday, I'm getting a little impatient!
I also hope it fixes the Finder crashing when you drag a load of pictures on the desktop when icon preview is enabled. That's bloody annoying.
As I keep saying, I'm really really glad it sorts out application launch time problems caused with 10.3.2. Safari used to open in one bounce, now it's three :(

AppleMatt

wdlove

Mar 7, 2004, 07:17 PM

LordOfAllTerror

Mar 8, 2004, 04:09 PM

Yeah its not out yet. Its 4:09 PM EST. Isn't it supposed to be out soon?

rmassung

Mar 8, 2004, 04:55 PM

In Panther, there are two ways to connect to network shares. The 1st way (the way I always do it, and apparently you as well) is to use Go -> Connect to Server, and give it a URL, or choose from a list of recent/favorite servers. This will place the network share you just logged into on the sidebar and/or on your desktop, depending on the way you have your Finder Preferences set. The other way to connect to a server is to browse the network using the handy dandy Network icon in the sidebar. The results are currently somewhat unmaclike in that once you connect to a server, there is no obvious way to disconnect from the server, short of logging out of the local system, or pulling your network plug. Interestingly, if you Change out a couple of the terms*, Windows works in the exact same way.

My interpretation of the new feature, is that when you connect to a server from the Network icon, the server will show up on the sidebar/Desktop just like if you had connected using the Go menu. This would make me happy, and i'd probably even use the browsing method more often if that was the case.

*the terms to replace are Go -> Connect to Server with Right click on My Network Places and chose Map Network Drive, and handy dandy Network icon with My Network Places

yes that is what happens, click on network in the sidebar, log into your local server or wherever and when you log on the server mounts and the icon appears in your sidebar for easy ejecting.

martinol

Mar 8, 2004, 07:33 PM

johnnyjibbs

Mar 8, 2004, 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=Macrumors]Apple seeded Mac OS X 10.3.3 7F38 on Thursday to developers. Key enhancements are said to include:

- iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync

Just usb 2 or will it work on usb 1 as well?
It will work with USB1, but it will be very slow. Basically, Apple is conceding by allowing Mac users to use USB instead of FireWire. USB 2 was seen as a rival to FireWire but, now that Apple includes USB 2 on all its computers (ok except eMacs), it is conceding for ease of use. The USB 2 option was originally to help shift more iPods to PC user because many PCs still foolishly do not ship with FireWire.

Matrix9180

Mar 10, 2004, 08:52 AM

ahem **cough** **clears throat** 40!
You will see what I'm talking about soon enough...

OutThere

Mar 10, 2004, 09:15 AM

I'm ready and waiting for those graphic driver updates...Halo could use a serious boost on my computer. The SMB networking will be a welcome fix as well, I've become rather tired of having my entire computer come to a halt when I try to connect to an SMB share...

ayampols

Mar 16, 2004, 02:56 PM

So the description has the same details as 7F34? what was fixed or changed in 7F38?

The new graphics drivers are apparently 15-17% faster than those included with 10.3.2.

My new faster graphics driver likes to do this when I play my favorite games:

Mar 15 22:31:57 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:32:13 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:32:23 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:32:51 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:33:02 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:33:17 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:33:27 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:33:56 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:33:56 localhost diskarbitrationd[134]: Dungeon Siege [346]:16899 not responding.
Mar 15 22:34:06 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:34:22 localhost kernel: ATIRadeon9700::wait_for_rb_space: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Mar 15 22:34:24 localhost diskarbitrationd[134]: disk1s1s2 hfs 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 Dungeon Siege Disc 2 /Volumes/Dungeon Siege Disc 2
Mar 15 22:35:28 localhost syslogd: restart

Yeah that last was a hard restart. Works every time.