Please support us in electing dukestreet Community President!

[eyelikeart]

I'm already getting a little bit of support from my fellow macrumors community regulars...so here it is...

he's brought us many changes in his time here:

• the first annual macrumors avatar contest
• leader of the DGVPG
• been an inspiration for us all to make our posts as relevant & significant as possible
• provided many with exquisite avatars
• created blackmail propaganda against me if I ever slip up ;)

those in favor of electing dukestreet as the "Official Macrumors Community President" please sign the petition..he he he :D ;)

[britboy]

So are you going to be his acolyte then eye? :p

What's his policy for the duration of his term?

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by britboy
So are you going to be his acolyte then eye? :p

What's his policy for the duration of his term?

if elected...I'll be his top advisor...

as for his policy...we have to see what happens here first...

we'll get a speech out of him eventually...he he he ;)

[britboy]

Speech, speech, speech, speech....... :p

[vitruvius]

hey, count on me!

Duke got my vote!!:D

[irmongoose]

You must be wondering "who was the freak who picked no? how dare he? come on... its dukestreet, our man... of course he deserves the presidency!"

you know what? i think so too. But I regret to say that... well, I am that freak.

Will say why only if people are interested.




irmongoose

[britboy]

So.... go on. Tell us why :)

[eyelikeart]

I thought we were all freaks?!

now I'm confused...who's not some sort of geek or freak around here?! :confused: ;)

[eyelikeart]

I'm the man himself hasn't made an appearance here yet...or is he one of the votes for "no?"

in all actuality, it would be a catch 22...he'd still be voting for himself...he he he ;)

[teabgs]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
I thought we were all freaks?!

now I'm confused...who's not some sort of geek or freak around here?! :confused: ;)

I'm not


NOOCH:eek:

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by teabgs


I'm not


ok..yeah right...he he he ;)

[Taft]

My vote would be for no president at all.

Face it, the best we can do is become some sort of Union-like entity that is ultimately powerless. We are operating under a dictatorship!! Arn is the almighty ruler of this kingdom! His word is the only one that counts.

And personally I don't have any problem with that. He seems darn good at listening to the people in the community and making the changes he deems acceptable.

Long live King Arn!!!

Taft

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Taft

Long live King Arn!!!

then your vote has been recorded...

I was not making an attempt to overthrough arn however...

was more aiming at making duke a voice for us all...

and to pay him back a little...he he he ;)

still...it's a good idea don't the rest of u think?

[Ensign Paris]

he gets my vote, but how long will he be in office?

Ensign

[Backtothemac]

I agree with Eye on this one Taft. I think is just a reward for his efforts that he has put into making the site that much better than it already was. We have a real community going here, and we are starting to grow, in many ways. He has been working hard on promoting the site, and making it fun for us to come here and do more than argue about PDA's. Macrumors has grown into one hell of a website, and yes, Arn is the king of all that is righteous. That will never change, but lets give Duke a little slap on the back shall we.


Duke, you got my vote.

[Mr. Anderson]

Lets see what happens once you get 1% of the members to vote, ok? That's pretty poor turnout, but not bad for around here.

currently we're at
Members: 5,296, Threads: 6,258, Posts: 83,480

So if you get 53 votes, that should be good enough? Sound ok?

D

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by dukestreet
Lets see what happens once you get 1% of the members to vote, ok? That's pretty poor turnout, but not bad for around here.

currently we're at
Members: 5,296, Threads: 6,258, Posts: 83,480

So if you get 53 votes, that should be good enough? Sound ok?

D

I wonder where all of the members are. I imagine a lot register and post once or twice and then poof. I wonder what the average post count per member is.

[britboy]

Originally posted by Backtothemac


I wonder where all of the members are. I imagine a lot register and post once or twice and then poof. I wonder what the average post count per member is.


I think we can be fairly certain that your post count is slightly above average :p


Almost 4000 of those members have 10 or fewer posts. You can't expect them to voice their opinion. :rolleyes: Of the remaining member, 1% means 15 votes would do. Will that be satisfactory duke? :D

[Durandal7]

duke gets my vote.
Does duke get (President) underneath (Moderater) if he's elected?

[britboy]

Originally posted by asurace
duke gets my vote.
Does duke get (President) underneath (Moderater) if he's elected?


To prevent clutter, perhaps it could be 'Presidential Mod'. :D

[Mr. Anderson]

ok, how about we let it go till tomorrow noon. That way everyone can get a chance and see where it stands, ok?

[MacAztec]

President of a website? Ok.... :o

[mr.w]

he's probably got good dental hygene as-well (flossing.org) which is always nice.... you got my vote just because of that... well not really, but that put you over the top.

[mischief]

Considering he'd stand between us and the monarch.

Personally I prefer enlightened Anarchy to a Republican Oligarchy....:D

Perhaps I shouldn't take my Herbal brain-juice while posting.....

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by mischief
Perhaps I shouldn't take my Herbal brain-juice while posting.....

I thought I heard something bubbly...;)

well then mischief...maybe u should join the campaign to offer us some enlightenment?

[mischief]

Joining the campaign would be contrary to my Digital-Anarchist phylosophy. I feel that a Sysop is as powerful as anyone should ever be. I want to see well designed software replace government and Banking.

Besides. Electing Duke without primaries or other runners wouldn't be democratic........ It'd be a coup.;)

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by mischief
Considering he'd stand between us and the monarch.

Personally I prefer enlightened Anarchy to a Republican Oligarchy....:D

Perhaps I shouldn't take my Herbal brain-juice while posting.....

hmm (http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Sounds/HolyGrailPeasants.wav/aqucrmny.wav)

you might have to play it a second time, for some reason on my system it skips the middle section, sorry

[jelloshotsrule]

should be a 3rd option of not really wanting/needing a "president"

not sure what good it would do. since arn is fairly accessible and no reason he wouldn't respond to any of us... as long as our ideas are sound and reasonable.

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by mischief
Besides. Electing Duke without primaries or other runners wouldn't be democratic........ It'd be a coup.;)

Maybe we should form Macrumors political parties and get several candidates from each party, then we can hold primaries and finally an election.

[wsteineker]

Originally posted by asurace

Maybe we should form Macrumors political parties and get several candidates from each party, then we can hold primaries and finally an election.

Or we could just avoid the whole unsightly mess by not choosing a president. Seriously folks, this is a community. Mayor, maybe. But President, NO WAY! Don't get me wrong here, if we HAD to elect a president I would definitely vote for Duke. I just don't see the NEED for this. You dig? Why go around wearing hats when the hair around here is perfectly nice?

In short: Duke, YOU THA MAN! My fear is that if you're elected you might become THE man. You know, like Whitey. ;) I just don't see the need.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by wsteineker

In short: Duke, YOU THA MAN! My fear is that if you're elected you might become THE man. You know, like Whitey. ;) I just don't see the need.

oh geez...I hope u don't get slammed too hard for that "whitey" comment...

I doubt duke would be like that anyway...he's too damned standup about everything...

but then again...that's why I elected him :D

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by wsteineker
You dig? Why go around wearing hats when the hair around here is perfectly nice?


To keep the sun out of our eyes....

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by asurace


To keep the sun out of our eyes....

that's why we wear sunglasses... ;)

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by eyelikeart


that's why we wear sunglasses... ;)

Fair enough, alright then we wear hats to look pimpin with our sunglasses. :cool:

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by asurace


Fair enough, alright then we wear hats to look pimpin with our sunglasses.

hey man...u gotta do what u gotta do...

I may just bring my beach hat with me to Florida tomorrow...then I can be pimpin' just like u... ;)

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by eyelikeart


hey man...u gotta do what u gotta do...

I may just bring my beach hat with me to Florida tomorrow...then I can be pimpin' just like u... ;)

I think we've all learned our lesson, don't use analogies or metaphors in a post unless you really hate the thread's topic.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by asurace


I think we've all learned our lesson, don't use analogies or metaphors in a post unless you really hate the thread's topic.

yeah...well...it's my thread...so I can do whatever I want...

he he he :p

[Backtothemac]

Sorry for the rant here, but seriously why would anyone have a problem with this? Look at how much Duke does around here for fun, and you will see why. He makes half of the avatars here, is a contributor. He also had designed the avatar contest, and put a lot of time in it. He is an all around great guy, and a mod. So what if we give him a title that has no power. It is about saying thanks to the guy.

[AmbitiousLemon]

i think the problem most people have is your 'gang' seems to be acting for its own benefit and ignoring the rest of the community. i have heard so many complaints lately about how things have changed here lately its unbelievable, and most of the good rumors posts have left. this has turned into some sort of playground for a some handful of kids who march around like a 'gang' and seem to go out of their way to attack new people and make them feel unwelcome. you have all ignored repeated requests by members of MR to keep things within reason and this little thread is just one more example. whoever described this as a coup awhile back is very right. but this coup has been building over time. call me bitter or a whiner but i have seen too many good people leave and talked to too many people whos ay they dont like what MR has become to stay silient. believe it or not but most people out there dont like the demigods and have responded by not posting anymore and not visiting teh site as often.

i have nothing against duke, but this silly duke for president thing just seems like a punch of bullies patting eachother on the back. but i warn you the proletariat is not happy. many of you seem to have lost sight of what made MR so much fun and so helpful in the past. i urge you to remember those bygone days.

[wsteineker]

Yeah, I'm in agreement with AL (sort of). I mean, if the title is so meaningless, why bestow it at all? Reminds me of guaranteeed pieces of ***** from Tommy Boy. :) I don't feel bullied here, but I do feel that lately there's been a real shift in the attitude of many of the high posters. I'm not so sure it's for the better, either. I WANT to contribute to MR right now, but it's just not possible. I'm $633 in the hole on my bills, so I'd feel pretty silly paying $30 for a mug. I feel like I'm being left behind with all of this DGVPG horse *****, and the avatars don't help. I want to contribute, not join a collective. That's why I left Windows, to get away from that. It's GREAT that you guys contribute. I wish I could do more, and I will ASAP. Just don't go around like it's an all out campaign of cult recruitment, complete with similar attire, mantra, and mob tactics. Check my member since date and you'll see that I've been around for a while. I've got more than a little understanding of this board and the way that it's changed. I for one don't mind. I just wish you guys would pick up on the fact that A LOT of people are terribly uncomfortable here now, and most of them are too scared to talk about it. Listen to AL even if you won't listen to me. He's a DG with a high post count. Me, I'm just a little peon. At least that's what all of this makes me feel like. Take it for what it's worth, and let the flames begin!!!

[jelloshotsrule]

wsteineker

i for one won't flame you for feeling whatever way you feel.

the way i see the people that have recently been targeted to contribute are people who have at one point or another shown interest in contributing, or have been around a while, or have some sort of rapport with someone in particular or whatever.

i totally understand not wanting/being able to pay up even if it's "just 30 bucks" to some people. being a student i didn't have any income til i got a semi-job, so i contributed. then again, i have parents paying my bills. and whatnot. so i can see how what is "just 30" to some folks is a lot to others. i actually just donated via paypal as i don't need the mug and would rather just give striaght up.

anyhoo, sorry people feel bad. speaking for myself, i saw the whole thing as a joke that got a bit too organized. which is where it got the gang type feeling i think. and it's easy for those involved to get mixed up thinking it's just fun not realizing how others feel. so it's good for everyone to speak their mind on it.

i'll just add that the people i know fairly well among the demi-gods are good folks and just want to help. if they have selfish intentions, i don't know of them. but anyhoo, that's no reason to keep it up if it bugs people. so yeah. speak yo mind!

this place should be fun. jump in!

[wsteineker]

I agree with you that most of the folks who so proudly bear the Demi-God mark aren't bad folks. In fact, you, eye, B2TM, Duke, and the rest are among my favorite posters. You guys are the ones that the rest of us go to for help and some pretty solid ideas. That's why this sucks so badly. I have a feeling that you're right about the whole joke that got too organized thing. Not being on the inside I can't be 100% sure, but I'm 99% now and that's good enough for me. I just wish everyone would stop with the cliques and get back to the community. Just my $.02.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Thanks for taking the time to write what you did, man. That reminded me of the OLD community here at MR. I really appreciate that. :)

[jelloshotsrule]

no problem. i think the fact of the matter is that "cliques" will form. but i think in this case, as opposed to like school cliques, all you have to do to join in is join in... in fact, royal pineapple just came around lately and has jumped right in. now the problem comes when people who don't know the others well enough to know they are joking, or that they're not bullying. sure, there probably is some of that that i just see as joking, and that's why we need to hear what folks think cause when you're "on the inside" you can easily just think it's ok.

i will say though, that the dgvpg (funny thing is, i don't usually remember the letters so i have to look em up. ha) is the elitist part. whereas i see the community section posting in general as good in general. that is to say, the joking and getting to know each other that ends up seeming cliquey is just how it has worked out. it's who posts often and thus they get to know each other. whereas the other thing is more self-created. not with bad intentions, but as we've said, it can end up alienating people.

so if the dg... makes you feel left out, i hear ya. if people feel left out cause they aren't part of the joking and community aspect, then they just need to post and get involved. all of us have been gone for a few days, or just not had an interest in a particular topic (e.g. me and the beer/wine threads, etc) and thus felt kinda left out. but as i said, that's just the nature of it.

which i think you understand. just wanted to clarify my stance on things in general.

ps. i don't often enough have great tips to give. especially when smart techs and experienced folks like alpha, lemon, rower, duke, eye,britboy etc etc beat me to it. my only hope is to see someone who needs help with the few apps i know best (graphics stuff) and then i can help. thanks for the vote of support though.. haha.

and on that note.... straight up!

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
i have nothing against duke, but this silly duke for president thing just seems like a punch of bullies patting eachother on the back. but i warn you the proletariat is not happy. many of you seem to have lost sight of what made MR so much fun and so helpful in the past. i urge you to remember those bygone days.

i basically agree, which is why i thought the president thing was going too far. i mean, he's done a lot of good things for folks here and the site. but then again, so have other people. there's no need to single anyone out that much... just say "thanks duke! you the man!" or whatever you want.

as for the macrumors of old that was fun and helpful.

i just want to point out that in general all this stuff is kept in the community section (or private i guess) but the mac sections, help and all that are kept clear of it. so i think the site is just as helpful as i can remember. as for the fun... it's natural for people to come and go in time. i don't see myself being here in such this amount in a few months. that's natural too. i'm sure some people have stayed away for the reasons you said, but as i've said most/all of it is the community section, which is rarely mac related at all. and if you want to be a part of the community, it just takes taking the initiative to post. i mean, at any given point all of us were newbies, so we had to start somewhere. uggh. too long. sorry folks. word out.

[wsteineker]

Right on, Jello, right on. Thanks for the input, buddy. One last thing, though. Your new avatar is sweet. Not quite as sweet as that new line in your signature, but sweet nonetheless. Why does it say print paper jam when there is no paper jam? :D

[britboy]

wsteineker, i would add more, but jello has basically gone and said everything i was going to. Just so that you know that he isn't alone (in that respect). Within the private forums, it isn't like we're constantly planning on ambushing 'victims' from the public forums, or that it's a select group. As jello pointed out, Royal Pineapple recently joined. At first he wasn't well known (just hadn't been around that much), but he posted, and joined it. No one is intentionally excluded. I hear you with the bills and stuff (who hasn't had trouble with bills in the past? :)), and that fair enough. Good luck to you.

Sorry if i've done anything to offend anyone, regarding the whole demi-god 'campaign'. It's not been intentional.

If you thinking that no-one offers help and advice around here, check out the help/questions section.

[Mr. Anderson]

An interesting turn of events these last couple days, and with the new forum being made, it just doesn't make any sense to continue with this silliness. I never wanted to be 'president' - what did that mean, anyway. It was eye's idea, more for returning a 'favor' I did for him.

I don't want things to continue to split into groups, I want the MacRumors that I'm used to, being a resource for getting information, help and ideas, having a chat or two with friends. This whole thing has gotten a little out of hand and I hope we'll be able to move on.

If I need to say it, I never even said I'd do it in the first place, but I'm not going to *run* for pres, lets all take this as an educational experience into the dynamics of an online forum and move on.....

D

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
i think the problem most people have is your 'gang' seems to be acting for its own benefit and ignoring the rest of the community. i have heard so many complaints lately about how things have changed here lately its unbelievable, and most of the good rumors posts have left. this has turned into some sort of playground for a some handful of kids who march around like a 'gang' and seem to go out of their way to attack new people and make them feel unwelcome. you have all ignored repeated requests by members of MR to keep things within reason and this little thread is just one more example. whoever described this as a coup awhile back is very right. but this coup has been building over time. call me bitter or a whiner but i have seen too many good people leave and talked to too many people whos ay they dont like what MR has become to stay silient. believe it or not but most people out there dont like the demigods and have responded by not posting anymore and not visiting teh site as often.

i have nothing against duke, but this silly duke for president thing just seems like a punch of bullies patting eachother on the back. but i warn you the proletariat is not happy. many of you seem to have lost sight of what made MR so much fun and so helpful in the past. i urge you to remember those bygone days.

Really not trying to flame you here Lemon, but this is BS. You know good and well that the whole DGVPG was nothing more than a poke of fun. You know what it was about. You know what it stood for. You know the truth. There has been nothing going on here but a strengthing of the site. I have been lurking since day one, however did not join until 2002. Actually joined before that and had some posts, but forgot the user name. Anyway, this site is not being divided, it is being unified. We are talking more, helping more, and having more fun. It is the progression of things. I don't know who you know of that has stoped posting and left because of Duke, eye, jello, me, or anyone else. All of the people that I can remember who ever posted anything worth reading are still here. Sorry if this seems like a rant, but you could have talked to us about this in another forum where we invited you to discuss it.

[eyelikeart]

I'm sorry for touching a softspot for many of u guys with this thread.

This was honestly just a sort of "get back" at duke for making me into a woman...also, as B2TM noted, duke is a great asset to the site. He's done a lot for many of us with avatars, the avatar contest, and is a solid voice of reason on many levels.

The saying holds much meaning when I say "there's truth in jest." If anything, maybe u could look at this as a compliment to the man instead of it being a gang-up against the non-contributors...