Mac OS X 10.3.3 Released

[spinko]

while I was reading this forum with Safari !! Screen went dark with a message to reboot the system by pressing the button on the front of the machine...

:confused:

Dual 1.25 G4, 10.3.3 still fuming

Edited: the culprit seems to be retrospect 5.1 which was running in the background, here the crash log

Driver Update 5.2 /Volumes/Retrospect Driver Update 5.2
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: entering
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: exiting
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: entering
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: exiting
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: entering
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: exiting
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: entering
Mar 16 11:20:49 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: exiting
Mar 16 11:21:11 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:21:11 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: entering
Mar 16 11:21:11 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: exiting
Mar 16 11:21:11 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:21:11 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: entering
Mar 16 11:21:11 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_getattr: exiting
Mar 16 11:21:20 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:21:20 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_pathconf: aname = 4
Mar 16 11:21:20 localhost kernel: retrospectcdfs_root; mp 0x171107c
Mar 16 11:21:24 localhost kernel: SAM Multimedia: READ or WRITE failed, ASC = 0x00, ASCQ = 0x00
Mar 16 11:21:25 localhost last message repeated 4 times
Mar 16 11:21:25 localhost kernel: disk1: I/O error.

[adt]

I installed 10.3.3 and everything worked fine until I tried to use my scanner, an Epson Perfection 3200 Photo and Photoshop Elements 2.0. Got the message, "scanner not installed".

Had to reinstall scanner, then Photoshop Elements kept shutting down. Reinstalled updates to Photoshop Elements.

Restarted the computer (Mac G4 Dual 1 Ghz). No help. Shut down and restarted, took a long time to come back up, then keyboard wouldn't work. Did another shutdown and restarted.

Seems to be working now, in a microsoft windows sort of way.

Sure is nice to see apple and microsoft apparently collaborating on operating systems.

lmao! 10 points!

[ZildjianKX]

Okay, waiting 3 months for 10.3.3 to fix some of my samba problems... still not perfect...

Waiting 5 months and counting for Apple to fix the glitchy 2.1 iPod software...

Are they always this nice to switchers? :)

[adt]

I will install it as soon as my 42gb torrent file is done downloading.

Ahh, you found the windows source code.. good luck...

bahaha. 20 points!

[BevvyB]

I have the same thing - as in NOTHING in my software update


What's going on? It's not appearing in my software update, and I can't find it on the Apple downloads page! I want my update! :mad:

Anyone else having trouble? (I'm in the UK by the way...)

[russed]

i think i have discovered a very minor error/fault not really a bug, well here is it.

when i go to browse device on my sony erricson z600 there is a trash can at the bottom (to deleate files on it) and if you hold the mouse over it, it says create new folder, just like the folder icon does next to it!

[MacRAND]

while I was reading this forum with Safari !!
Screen went dark with a message to reboot the system by pressing the button on the front of the machine...:confused:
Dual 1.25 G4, 10.3.3 still fumingKernel Panic upon first restart after overnight shutdown
iBook 700
Everything fine, actually very snappy, upon restart.

Re: G4 dual 1GHz with
new 8x DVD Pioneer SuperDrive installed
Happy :D to have Apple SuperDrive DRIVER for Pioneer DVR-A07
(new 10.3.3 supplied Driver appeared only after REMOVAL of temp driver
previously placed / now manually removed by uninstall using PatchBurnII;
work around supplied thanks to xlr8yourMac.com) ;)

(10.3.3. Driver for 8x SuperDriver now
further supports MacRumor that soon-to-be-released PowerMacs on 23rd
will have 8x Pioneer SuperDrives installed...well, it kinda does, don't you think?)

NOTE: Pioneer firmware still "1.03" :confused:
unchanged for Macs, although PCs apparently have required :( upgrading to 1.10, available @ Pioneer support site as download (.exe only) :p
(thanks to daveL, who alerted us to PC/Mac distinction)
Pioneer firmware changes appear to indicate PC-specific problems :( needing to be resolved for DVR-A07 DVD/CD±R/RW

:D Happy to see Apple's DVD Player now reads DVD±R/RW by adding "+R" to mix
but...can we natively burn both ways, DVD±R/RW, fully?

[displaced]

Update's been good for the most part. Boot speed much better, not that my Mac boots from cold all that often.

SMB networking has taken a baby-step forwards. My PCs show up in the Network finder window, but are greyed out. Double-clicking causes a 30-second beachball, followed by a message to the effect that the original item could not be located.

Connecting via Go -> Connect to Server and entering smb://dangermouse/public causes the same error. However, using smb://192.168.0.50/public works fine.

This is clearly a name-resolution problem. I've put an entry in /etc/hosts for the machine, but this hasn't helped -- probably because this is a netbios name lookup.

I'm used to configuring Samba on linux systems, so once I get home from work I'm going to investigate the /etc/smb.conf file and see what I can mess with. I'd imagine that editing the 'name resolve order' setting might help. I'll also crank up the debug output level for smbd and nmbd and trawl the logs. The nmbd log already states that my Mac's acting as the master browser for the workgroup, so at least something's going right...

Will post back if I come across anything useful!

[madrobby]

Mail now works for me as expected, no crashes with big mbox (1.5gb) yet (crashed all the time before 10.3.3), and I now can successfully open big attachments (>10mb) sent to me with lotus notes.

[27407]

Hello all,

Please help me.

I installed the 10.3.3 update last night. After it downloaded, it looked like it was installing, then I got a error message saying that it was unable to install the update, and that I should choose "just download" or something similar from the menu, and then try manually installing the update after that. I looked in the tasks and saw that I had classic running, so I thought it would be a good idea to clear that and everything else out before I tried installing it again. So I restart my computer. When the screen comes up with the apple on top and everything loading, it hangs at "login screen starting". It won't go any further. I've restarted more times than I can remember. I got the Panther UPGRADE disk out, repaired permissions, restarted. Same thing. So I tried to do an archive and install. When I try to select the HD, it says that it cannot install on this drive because there isn't a previous version of Mac OS X on it.

Sorry for the long post, but I really need some help with this.

Thanks in advance

Peace

[MacRAND]

Okay,
waiting 3 months for 10.3.3 to fix some of my samba problems... still not perfect...
Waiting 5 months and counting for Apple to fix the glitchy 2.1 iPod software...

Are they always this nice to switchers? :)YES!

Conspiracy Theory: You, specifically, are being punished for sins accrued during your previous PC-dark life
Now that you have been reborn as a Mac user,
you will henceforth be granted a normal i L i f e :D
(However, expect to get egged by the Ethernet Bunny this year on Ether Sunday) ;)

CAUTION: beware of any Devil Inside! requiring a full exorcisim through further OS X updates
(Yes, we can tell if you have been PC-using...just by looking at you). :eek:

[nagromme]

Limpidezza--some general tips for reviving an OS X Mac:
http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/forum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=2;t=62

You probably just need to do some disk repair, and holding the Shift key during boot (and then reboot again normally) might do it. Otherwise, choose Disk Utility from the menu after booting the OS X install disc. (Hold C to make the CD... or DVD... boot.)

[MacRAND]

Please help me.
I installed the 10.3.3 update last night. After it downloaded, it looked like it was installing, then I got a error message saying that it was unable to install the update, and that I should choose "just download" or something similar from the menu, and then try manually installing the update after that.
- snip -
I've restarted more times than I can remember. I got the Panther UPGRADE disk out, repaired permissions, restarted. Same thing. So I tried to do an archive and install. When I try to select the HD, it says that it cannot install on this drive because there isn't a previous version of Mac OS X on it.If after following what nagromme has suggested your Mac still does not work, then you may have to re-install Jaguar first, then UPGRADE to Panther, then UPDATE to 10.3.3.
You do have all your data backed up, right?

There may be a "short-cut" to all this if you have a FireWire cable and 2 Macs running OS X. http://a772.g.akamai.net/7/772/51/2376e9d3a3ff3a/www.apple.com/firewire/images/firewirelogo011503.giflimpidezza, it is difficult for any of us to help you until you fill out your member PROFILE or "User CP" (look in upper left corner) http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=27407
We have no idea what computers and other equipment you have, nor do we know where you are on planet Earth, which is sometimes helpful to understand language difficulties, and also to direct you to local services where you live.

[benny.c]

just updated and now can't see my external usb drive on my desktop :confused:

have tried restarting, reconnecting etc but no joy.

the drive does appear in the system profiler but not in the finder.

any suggestions anyone?

[robotrenegade]

"A UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) panel is available in Energy Saver preferences, as well as a UPS menu bar item, when a UPS power management system is connected to the computer. Overall support for UPS systems is improved."

I saw this listed in the update. Is there a list of Apple supported UPS systems? Also, do you still need to install the UPS drivers with this support or does MacOS X automatically supply drivers? If anyone knows, please post. :cool:

You don't have to install them, but if you want to be able to control the about of time is stays running or anything with it you have to down load the drivers. I'm running 10.3.3 and the drives work great. They install under system preferences.

[Stewie]

So far the only problem I found was that Firewalk was not running after the update. Kinda important to have the firewall running, but I didn't even receive any errors. I only found the problem when trying to open Firewalk Preferences and then got a message that the FWCDaemon wasn't running. A reinstall of the app took care of the problem, but that wasn't good.

[AppleMatt]

Who was having problems installing with SoftwareUpdate?

To the poster who found that SU failed mid-install, Apple recommends downloading the stand-alone installer and installing over the partial-update.

HTH,
AppleMatt

[zim]

Installed on a G4 iMac 20" with no problems. Also installed on a powerBook 667 G4 with no problems and no fan noise as some reported.

First thing I went for was the networking and I must say that 1. I love having my networked drives showing up on the desktop again and 2. noticeable speed improvements.

Loving 10.3.3 :D

[ITR 81]

Okay, waiting 3 months for 10.3.3 to fix some of my samba problems... still not perfect...

Waiting 5 months and counting for Apple to fix the glitchy 2.1 iPod software...

Are they always this nice to switchers? :)

1.2.1??

Upgrade to 1.3.1 like me.
Never had any glitch in the last 6 months.

Samba is a work in progress so I doubt it will be ever perfect.

[Baron58]

In Jagwire I had the option to download updates to the desktop, which I liked to do so I could keep a collection of updates for when I had to do an fresh system install. While I can still install updates to my machine, I can't to the desktop -- where do they go to now, and can I ( once I've found them! ) safeley move them to my 'Upgrades " folder??

cheers,


Using the 'download checked items' or 'install and keep package' function in Software Update places them in /Library/Packages and opens a Finder window to that folder for you, so you can see them. Why make things hard and reinvent the wheel? Just keep the packages there and periodically burn a CD of /Library/Packages

[Baron58]

Update's been good for the most part. Boot speed much better, not that my Mac boots from cold all that often.

SMB networking has taken a baby-step forwards. My PCs show up in the Network finder window, but are greyed out. Double-clicking causes a 30-second beachball, followed by a message to the effect that the original item could not be located.

Connecting via Go -> Connect to Server and entering smb://dangermouse/public causes the same error. However, using smb://192.168.0.50/public works fine.

This is clearly a name-resolution problem. I've put an entry in /etc/hosts for the machine, but this hasn't helped -- probably because this is a netbios name lookup.

I'm used to configuring Samba on linux systems, so once I get home from work I'm going to investigate the /etc/smb.conf file and see what I can mess with. I'd imagine that editing the 'name resolve order' setting might help. I'll also crank up the debug output level for smbd and nmbd and trawl the logs. The nmbd log already states that my Mac's acting as the master browser for the workgroup, so at least something's going right...

Will post back if I come across anything useful!

Probably because you're trying to logon to a server in a different netbios domain. Use the connect-to-server dialogue with the following format:

smb://YourNETBIOSdomain;username@server/share

or

smb://YourNETBIOSdomain;username@server.YourDNSdomain/share

...obviously using appropriate values for the placeholder words I used above.

In large corporate setups the NETBIOS domain that you are logging on to may be entirely different from the NETBIOS domain of the server that you are mounting the volume from, and this is entirely legitimate. Let's say your logon domain is CORPORATE, and you want to mount a volume from a server in the BRANCH domain at your local office:

smb://CORPORATE;joeuser@ourserver.branch.bigcompany.com/MyFiles

Try this and see if you can log in without using the IP address.

[Raveny]

as far as I know, apple wanted to update open gl drivers... but in build f44 I couldn't find such updates... do you know where they are?

[greg6028]

I see the Safari update comes with this install. I don't like it because I loose my autofill for my bank accounts. Autofill is a Great Feature! I wish is was still available in the lastest Safari version. Anyways I went back and installed version 1.1 from my Pather CDs.
Is there a way to have autofills in Safari 1.2.1??

[dimboo]

I see the Safari update comes with this install. I don't like it because I loose my autofill for my bank accounts. Autofill is a Great Feature! I wish is was still available in the lastest Safari version. Anyways I went back and installed version 1.1 from my Pather CDs.
Is there a way to have autofills in Safari 1.2.1??

How do you reinstall Safari 1.1? I wanted to do this ever since i updated to Safari 1.2 but haven't found out how.
Thanks

[zim]

I see the Safari update comes with this install. I don't like it because I loose my autofill for my bank accounts. Autofill is a Great Feature! I wish is was still available in the lastest Safari version. Anyways I went back and installed version 1.1 from my Pather CDs.
Is there a way to have autofills in Safari 1.2.1??

AutoFill still works for me in 1.2.1. Nothing changed as far as I can see. Did you check to see if maybe, somehow, it had been turned off durring the update.

[garybooberry]

G4 Sawtooth 450 mhz update at work this morning - so far so good.

(Always try the work computer first.) ;)

[ndmccormack]

I used to use DAVE 4.1.1, but when i saw the 10.3.3 update i lept for joy... sadly tho things arent't great. i installed the update and uninstalled dave...

its snappier and the server connections are super quick, good job so far, but any application file, or at least most of them (somehting to do with teh .app extension maybe?) appear as 'UNIX executables' with a little grey UNIX screen icon! This is programs like shockwave installers and flash updates that we have on our server. I cannot run these, as it asks me to choose an application for them to run with... is this a problem with DAVE just not uninstalling correclty or what??? or is the networkign still not fixed in OSX??? everything with an extension (.dmg or .img etc etc) seems to be ok...

any ideas?
cheers

niall

[MacRAND]

just updated and now can't see my external usb drive on my desktop :confused:
have tried restarting, reconnecting etc but no joy.
the drive does appear in the system profiler but not in the finder.
any suggestions anyone?benny.c, yes, I've had this happen to me and it seems like it is USB specific. Are you on any network that includes even one PC, Ethernet ...even wireless? Do you have an AirPort card installed?

Although rare in Mac computers (unless they have Virtual PC installed, especially the new MS version), it is especially commom on a PC running Windows 95. Thank heaven for a MacBuddy, Aaron, that I iChatAV with in UK (near London), he had the same problem on his CUBE. (He is on a wireless cable network with his employer - SKY NEWS)

Originally thought to have been caused by a deadly computer virus developed by some mad Belgian (Flemish) software design student caught by INTERPOL hiding in the Italian Alps, it is called "assassino degli azionamenti duri" (non-fatal on Macs) the condition actually has a technical name in Latin: Discus Fantasmus; or in
Italian: Malattia fantasma del disco, as recently reported in a European technical publications through Agenzia Giornalistica Italia (AGI).
http://www.agi.it/news.pl?doc=200403151020-1020-RT1-CRO-0-PC91
I assume the drive you have is fast USB 2.0 and that it does not have a FireWire port. Correct?

Making physical changes to the USB connection/system is what does it for me. Change ports, front, back, 1, 2, turn the cable around, switch ports with your USB mouse or keyboard, etc. If you have a USB 2.0 hub, check the power connection, and check its source cable downline.

Be sure to let us know what you have done that results in a resolution or cure for Malattia fantasma del disco

Besides looking for the USB Drive in System Profiler,
1. open System Preferences > Startup Disk (just to see if it is there or not).
2. open Disk Utility and run Repair Disk Permissions on "Macintosh HD" or whatever you have named your OS X primary drive
3. open Disk Utility and run Repair Disk on the external USB Drive, if you can see it listed.

While physically checking all your USB connections,
The following is an authorized Apple™ Support instructional video: CLICK here: PHANTOM DISK PHLASH (http://www.thephantomoftheopera.com/) which may help put you in the mood for "success"; power of positive thinking, and all that you know. :)

[greg6028]

AutoFill still works for me in 1.2.1. Nothing changed as far as I can see. Did you check to see if maybe, somehow, it had been turned off durring the update.

1.2.1 worked with your bank accounts????
1.2.1 autofill works with other web sights but NOT BANK accounts....??

[greg6028]

How do you reinstall Safari 1.1? I wanted to do this ever since i updated to Safari 1.2 but haven't found out how.
Thanks

I used the program Pacifist to open the file up from my Pather CD. Then reinstalled it in my App. folder - overwriting 1.2.1 Safari App.

[Le Big Mac]

just updated and now can't see my external usb drive on my desktop :confused:

have tried restarting, reconnecting etc but no joy.

the drive does appear in the system profiler but not in the finder.

any suggestions anyone?

Try a different USB jack? When I went to 10.3.2, my card reader appeared connected (system prof.) but wouldn't pick up cards. Swapped it with printer and it worked. Dunno why, but it did.

[garybooberry]

Just updated and now can't see my external usb drive on my desktop have tried restarting, reconnecting etc but no joy.

This sounds like a Windows-style update. :(

[MattG]

I used to use DAVE 4.1.1, but when i saw the 10.3.3 update i lept for joy... sadly tho things arent't great. i installed the update and uninstalled dave...

its snappier and the server connections are super quick, good job so far, but any application file, or at least most of them (somehting to do with teh .app extension maybe?) appear as 'UNIX executables' with a little grey UNIX screen icon! This is programs like shockwave installers and flash updates that we have on our server. I cannot run these, as it asks me to choose an application for them to run with... is this a problem with DAVE just not uninstalling correclty or what??? or is the networkign still not fixed in OSX??? everything with an extension (.dmg or .img etc etc) seems to be ok...

any ideas?
cheers

niall

Not sure what to tell you about that...

I can tell you that I'm running 10.3.3 and Dave 5, and I'm LOVING it. It makes my life as a Mac user at a Windows-based institution much easier. I can access my Windows shares with no problems now, and being able to mount my network shares is a big help!

[dstorey]

Anyone notice their disk changing in Disk Utility. In my 1.25 aluBook, Ii'm not 100% sure but i think the hd was made by Mat****a (or however you spell it) but now it shows as fujitsu. I cant remember it showing up as a fujitsu anyway.

[chinamac]

I can now send and receive SMS through SE P900 directly in Address Book! Yeh! The update also updated the synching with new cell phones, it appears. It was perfert with the T610 and now perfect with the P900.

[MacRAND]

I see the Safari update comes with this install.
I don't like it because I loose my autofill for my bank accounts.
Autofill is a Great Feature! I wish is was still available in the lastest Safari version.
Anyways I went back and installed version 1.1 from my Pather CDs.
Is there a way to have autofills in Safari 1.2.1??Don't think Auto-Fill went anywhere. In the MENU bar
pull down VIEW and check Auto-Fill so it appears in the Menu Bar
pull down EDIT and select AutoFill Form.
pull down SAFARI > Preferences, and select what you want AutoFill to fill in for you.

Sometimes a page I want to Auto-Fill won't accept Safari for a form fill-in, so I open another browser, drag&drop the URL address oer, and placate everyone. I agree with you, auto-Fill is very important.

[zim]

1.2.1 worked with your bank accounts????
1.2.1 autofill works with other web sights but NOT BANK accounts....??

Did autoFill, password and username, work with my bank account, yes. Did autoFill, as in reply forms, work on my bank account, YES. Does autoFill work in general? Yes.

Make sure that you selected the form that you wanted to have the content entered into.

[tiktokfx]

10.3.3 is a godsend.

Though it's not talked about in-depth anywhere that I can find, the updated OpenGL drivers are a HUGE improvement. I'd been suffering from a number of bugs in the driver for the nVidia Go 5200 in my 12" PB that made working in some of my modeling apps extremely painful... not just full applications, I was getting flaky behavior just from testing a window with a blank OpenGL view in Interface Builder.

As far as I can tell from limited testing this morning, those bugs are all gone, and draw rate with complex models seems much improved.

[nickfit]

Installed on 1.25 15 powerbook. Works great. A DVD I had problems with now plays. Boot time much quicker (after second reboot). Eyetv does not get choppy when other programs are running (maybe I'm just imagining this one).

[ndmccormack]

Not sure what to tell you about that...

I can tell you that I'm running 10.3.3 and Dave 5, and I'm LOVING it. It makes my life as a Mac user at a Windows-based institution much easier. I can access my Windows shares with no problems now, and being able to mount my network shares is a big help!


yeah I dunno whats goign on... I uninstalled DAVE and photshop stopped workign properly, but the Finder was VERY fast... I think my osx had a problem with reading all teh details about files (resource.frk stuff maybe, icons, file info, program its related to etc), so I reinstalled DAVE 4.1.1 and the start up is a lot slower but photoshop works and all teh icons are back....

god i don't know, I do think however that the DAVE maybe still resides in teh file system and possibly funks it up a bit... I had hoped that 10.3.3 would remove the need for DAVE, but alas it seems i still need it!

ah well....

[rog]

As far as I'm concerned this is not a problem. This is always how it has worked for me in Safari and on Windows machines and I see nothing wrong with it. I think... on Windows machines (in IE) you can specify how far one scroll on the mouse moves the page.. whether it be 3 lines, 4 lines, or whatever..

It's a problem because cocoa apps essentially ignore my preferred mouse settings whereas all other apps do it correctly. I understand you can specify scrolling, but that specification is totally ignored. Mail has the problem too but it's less noticeable because most emails are short. So I'll keep using Mozilla because it works better, is much faster, has a pull down URL field with recent entries, has more sensible bookmarking, and doesn't choke on my banking site and require me to go to a debugging menu and pretend I'm running IE for windows.

[DaBuzz]

1.2.1 worked with your bank accounts????
1.2.1 autofill works with other web sights but NOT BANK accounts....??

Safari has worked fine with my Bank of America online banking since beta, and it works fine with my other bank's online banking (U.S. Bank).

[TorbX]

Is this common on the 12" PB? On both my Pismo 500 and Aluminum PB 1.25 the fan almost never comes on.

after 10.3.2. it became common, yes. When I first got it back in may 2003 or so, it was absolutely astonishingly quiet. Now it is blowing, and blowing and blowing...

Later,
-TorbX.

[taeclee99]

I installed the 10.33 update but DVD Player still does not recognize and plays DVD+R media.The info on apple's site says that this update should fix this problem. Anyone have any luck getting DVD+R discs to play?

[ct77]

I've only seen one somewhat-related post on this topic... so, has anyone had success with connecting to networked drives hosted on a Windows 2003 Server that has packet signing / encryption enabled? This is the default setup for a W2K shared drive, so unless one has a benevolent network admin that disables the encryption, it is an important issue for Mac-using clients like myself.

Samba 3.0, which Panther uses, supports these types of connections.

However, connecting to W2K shares with packet signing has not worked in 10.3.0, 10.3.1, and 10.3.2... anyone know if 10.3.3 solves this particular issue?

Here's hoping! :)

[Quixcube]

Well, I can say that in my case making SMB connections from the Go menu using Connect to Server is snappier. It was always reliable that way, and it still it. It is simply faster in making the connections. The speed once connected hasn't changed as far as I can see (for copying data) although the contents of folders etc. appear more quickly in large folders.

Network browsing with SMB is a bit worse than before for me. I have a Windows server that I could browse to before that now returns "The alias "blah" cannot be opened because the original item cannot be found." which is annoying. Still, I always connect to SMB servers through the Go menu so it isn't a major inconvenience--besides simply existing as a feature that doesn't work.

I can now make desktop shortcuts to my Appletalk shares again though, which is nice.

I still can't integrate into the AD here. This is probably due to the way that the AD is set up though... I can't blame Apple there. I just got my hopes up slightly when I read that there may have been some adjustments to the reverse DNS lookup requirements etc.

Not a bad update really. If they can keep the SMB improvements coming then I will be happier and happier.

[doutee]

I have been having problems when quiting safari. When I quit safari the application always seems to restar itself. I thought that the new update to 10.3.3 would fix this problem but is seems to still be happening. Anybody else have this problem or does anybody know how to fix the problem?
Thanks

[Colonel Panik]

Someone commented on the update coming without a hardware update...

Maybe they're trying to get 10.3 perfected, so that they can in clear conscience go ahead and make 10.4 64 bit (thus leaving behind everyone not on a G5)... a bit like what they did when they first released Mac OS X

??

[displaced]

Probably because you're trying to logon to a server in a different netbios domain. Use the connect-to-server dialogue with the following format:

smb://YourNETBIOSdomain;username@server/share

or

smb://YourNETBIOSdomain;username@server.YourDNSdomain/share

...obviously using appropriate values for the placeholder words I used above.

In large corporate setups the NETBIOS domain that you are logging on to may be entirely different from the NETBIOS domain of the server that you are mounting the volume from, and this is entirely legitimate. Let's say your logon domain is CORPORATE, and you want to mount a volume from a server in the BRANCH domain at your local office:

smb://CORPORATE;joeuser@ourserver.branch.bigcompany.com/MyFiles

Try this and see if you can log in without using the IP address.

You're correct, but unfortunately it doesn't apply in my situation. It's just my home LAN, all in the same workgroup. I've checked the Workgroup setting in Directory Access, and verified it by looking in the /etc/httpd.conf file.

Oh well :)

[encro]

i think i have discovered a very minor error/fault not really a bug, well here is it.

when i go to browse device on my sony erricson z600 there is a trash can at the bottom (to delete files on it) and if you hold the mouse over it, it says create new folder, just like the folder icon does next to it!

Hey your right :) , don't forget to report your find to http://bugreporter.apple.com

You can fix it yourself if you have the developer tools installed.

You will need to alter the FileTransferClientWindow.nib in the Bluetooth File Exchange application package if you want to do this.

[diesel machine]

Network browsing with SMB is a bit worse than before for me. I have a Windows server that I could browse to before that now returns "The alias "blah" cannot be opened because the original item cannot be found." which is annoying. Still, I always connect to SMB servers through the Go menu so it isn't a major inconvenience--besides simply existing as a feature that doesn't work.

The only way I have been able to access all the NT boxes here has been with Sharity. It doesn't seem to get as much notice as Dave, but for me it has worked quite well. Anyone who doesn't enjoy connecting to a server through the go menu might want to check it out. http://www.obdev.at/products/sharity/ 2.9 was a huge improvement over 2.8!

[OutThere]

Halo is SO MUCH BETTER NOW!!!

10.3.3 seems to have broken my Halo, it unexpectedly quits a lot now, and is incredibly unstable, maybe they'll have a fix for it soon...

[sweetandsour]

Since updating from 10.3.2 to 10.3.3 my G4 Desktop (graphite) no longer wakes after energy saver puts the monitor to sleep. i have to reboot.
I have reset energy saver, and done all the usual permissions/restarts/etc. There are no other problems.
My 12" AL powerbook is fine after updating however.

Any ideas?

[Darrin Bell]

My $400 HP Laserjet 1200 is still an expensive paperweight after this update. Now I can get it to show up in the "add printer" dialogue box, but it still won't print anything.:(

Does anyone know if there's something I can do to fix this?

[wdlove]

Since updating from 10.3.2 to 10.3.3 my G4 Desktop (graphite) no longer wakes after energy saver puts the monitor to sleep. i have to reboot.
I have reset energy saver, and done all the usual permissions/restarts/etc. There are no other problems.
My 12" AL powerbook is fine after updating however.

Any ideas?

I have the same type of Mac that you do. Wanted to wait on the upgrade to see what happened to others. What type of monitor do you have?

My wife installed the update on her 15" PB, no problems so far.

[benny.c]

benny.c, yes, I've had this happen to me and it seems like it is USB specific. Are you on any network that includes even one PC, Ethernet ...even wireless? Do you have an AirPort card installed?

Although rare in Mac computers (unless they have Virtual PC installed, especially the new MS version), it is especially commom on a PC running Windows 95. Thank heaven for a MacBuddy, Aaron, that I iChatAV with in UK (near London), he had the same problem on his CUBE. (He is on a wireless cable network with his employer - SKY NEWS)

Originally thought to have been caused by a deadly computer virus developed by some mad Belgian (Flemish) software design student caught by INTERPOL hiding in the Italian Alps, it is called "assassino degli azionamenti duri" (non-fatal on Macs) the condition actually has a technical name in Latin: Discus Fantasmus; or in
Italian: Malattia fantasma del disco, as recently reported in a European technical publications through Agenzia Giornalistica Italia (AGI).
http://www.agi.it/news.pl?doc=200403151020-1020-RT1-CRO-0-PC91
I assume the drive you have is fast USB 2.0 and that it does not have a FireWire port. Correct?

Making physical changes to the USB connection/system is what does it for me. Change ports, front, back, 1, 2, turn the cable around, switch ports with your USB mouse or keyboard, etc. If you have a USB 2.0 hub, check the power connection, and check its source cable downline.

Be sure to let us know what you have done that results in a resolution or cure for Malattia fantasma del disco

Besides looking for the USB Drive in System Profiler,
1. open System Preferences > Startup Disk (just to see if it is there or not).
2. open Disk Utility and run Repair Disk Permissions on "Macintosh HD" or whatever you have named your OS X primary drive
3. open Disk Utility and run Repair Disk on the external USB Drive, if you can see it listed.

While physically checking all your USB connections,
The following is an authorized Apple™ Support instructional video: CLICK here: PHANTOM DISK PHLASH (http://www.thephantomoftheopera.com/) which may help put you in the mood for "success"; power of positive thinking, and all that you know. :)


Thanks for all the advice but i'm still stuck. I'm in my home office with no network or AirPort card.

have tried unplugging, replugging, swapping usb cables and reinstalling the update without success. i can't see the drive in disk utility or startup disk

might take my drive round to my mates house to see if it works on his G5. could the update have physically damaged the disk?

[rdowns]

YES!

Conspiracy Theory: You, specifically, are being punished for sins accrued during your previous PC-dark life
Now that you have been reborn as a Mac user,
you will henceforth be granted a normal i L i f e :D
(However, expect to get egged by the Ethernet Bunny this year on Ether Sunday) ;)

CAUTION: beware of any Devil Inside! requiring a full exorcisim through further OS X updates
(Yes, we can tell if you have been PC-using...just by looking at you). :eek:

My 'tar is not royalty free. Where should I send the bill?

[markjones05]

WHOOHOO! Frame rates are up in everything ive checked so far! A LOT!!! and even normal OS stuff seems to be perfect. better scrolling, window resizing.....finally. this is awesome! what are your results ?

I really dont notice a difference at all. It works just as good as the last panther.

[sweetandsour]

I have the same type of Mac that you do. Wanted to wait on the upgrade to see what happened to others. What type of monitor do you have?

My wife installed the update on her 15" PB, no problems so far.

----------
Monitor is a 17" Apple Studio Display. Have not had any problems before, and there are no other problems other than unable to wake when the monitor sleeps. Have to reboot every time after energy saver turns it off.
Obviously I could turn energy saver off, but whats the point of that????

[MacRAND]

My 'tar is not royalty free. Where should I send the bill?I'm making you famous, do I have to make you rich?
I want one too.
...and I'm close to getting my training wheels removed at the 500 mark.
Got any ideas?

Did you click on the ...
The following is an authorized Apple™ Support instructional video:
CLICK here: PHANTOM DISK PHLASH
in the prior post?

For fun, most of my posts are filled with an Ether Egg or two.

[vrapan]

is prebinding supposed to use my hard drive for a long long long time? i am running my PB from an external Firelite and it has been running for the past 15 minutes or so non stop. also there is a 3.3GB virtual memory file - as seen from top. is that normal for prebinding or something ot 10.3.3 screwed up something?

[MacRAND]

Thanks for all the advice but i'm still stuck. I'm in my home office with no network or AirPort card.
have tried unplugging, replugging, swapping usb cables and reinstalling the update without success. i can't see the drive in disk utility or startup disk
...might take my drive round to my mates house to see if it works on his G5. could the update have physically damaged the disk?NO, I do NOT think that your drive has been physically damaged, or your data destroyed. There's a FIRMWARE problem or something like that.

Even if you had to remove the drive from the USB case, you could either try to mount it inside your Mac as a 2nd drive, or put it in a good FireWire case and I bet you would be able to see the drive on your desktop when placed in an IDE/ATA or FireWire environment.

What we cannot discuss is the physical characteristics of the HD - brand, size, age, etc. Until you disclose it, so there is no telling how that plays into the picture.

Take some blank DVDs with you so your friend can BACKUP everything on that drive for you.

I'll bet the problem is related to how you formated the drive originally, or how it was formatted by someone else before you received it.

Quick, get your DATA off and protected, before he updates to 10.3.3 and get your mate to re-initialise the drive using 10.3.2 and be careful what format you select. If you don't ever go into OS9 anymore, then you don't need its driver.

Once you have re-initialized and re-formatted the drive, you can safely dump all your data back on to it.
When you plug it back into your Mac, it should be able to read it and see it.

This is weird with a USB drive because all the problems I've seen have to do with older FireWire drives and their type of Oxford bridge that needed to be updated.

Maybe your HD needs a FIRMWARE update. Check with the manufacturer before you do anything to re-initialize it.

The only other thing I can think of is to do a CLEAN I/O over-write when you initialize the drive, but that's more security than anything. However, if you de-fragment your drive with the old stuff on it, at least the empty space will be in one location, while the old data is bunched up in another - that's what I would probably do. It's cleaner that way.

What do you think?

[midiman]

because apple has been so slow to update system 7. I mean, who needs all these "modern" features when your mac doesn't smile at you?


[\end sarcasm]

who are these morons anyway?

negative...

my blood type may be negative, but this update sure aint!

[mangis]

My $400 HP Laserjet 1200 is still an expensive paperweight after this update. Now I can get it to show up in the "add printer" dialogue box, but it still won't print anything.:(

Does anyone know if there's something I can do to fix this?

Yes, my hp printer had the same problem a while ago. The fix was to delete the CANON drivers from the library. It did work, don't ask me why.

[Maclicious]

10.3.3 update has hosed my ability to log in after restart. Repaired permissions, still nothing. I guess I'll reinstall panther. Crappity crap--I was lured by all the good reviews, don't 'cha know? I have back ups of my mission critical files, but didn't fully back up things like address book and so on. I guess it takes being burned once to learn this lesson. Maybe I'll get lucky and archive and install will save my bacon.

UPDATE: I've revered to 10.3.0 from disc. Every time I try to upgrade, I go back to going to a black screen called bsd console, asking me to log in. Well, 10.3 seems fine for now. I've lost my whol day to this, so I guess I better get back to work.

[Matrix9180]

My biggest complaint is that they still haven't solved the scroll wheel problem in Safari. With my Intellimouse optical explorer, in other applications like Mozilla, a quick turn of the scroll wheel moves the screen down 1 page. In Safari, no matter how fast I scroll the wheel, it just moves a 1/3 page at most. It is so annoying that I rarely use Safari because of it. Maybe it's a cocoa app thing.

In System Preferences under Keyboard and Mouse, there's a Scrolling Speed setting, upping that will make safari scroll faster. Mozilla probably ignores that setting.

[xStep]

10.3.3 update has hosed my ability to log in after restart. Repaired permissions, still nothing. I guess I'll reinstall panther.

I believe you should be able to boot from one of the supplied CDs and change your password that way. I'd look into that before reinstalling.

[numediaman]

I did a search here but did not come up with a notice of another important update: Fan Control Update 1.0.

Here is a link:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/fancontrolupdate.html

The update supposedly gives G5 users greater fan control. Sounds good -- has anyone downloaded the update?

[jouster]

because apple has been so slow to update system 7. I mean, who needs all these "modern" features when your mac doesn't smile at you?


[\end sarcasm]

who are these morons anyway?

negative...

my blood type may be negative, but this update sure aint!


Well, not for you. But assuming that you've read the thread, you'll have seen that there are many who are having problems they didn't have before.

[visor]

act so tremendously unlucky on SMB network browsing?

It was good on 3.2 - leave a network, be prompted that its gone, klick disconnect - no more problems.
Just did that now with 3.3 - no popup, finder stalled just like all the VERY BADLY BEHAVING versions before 3.2 .
I can't believe it.
I really can't believe they downgraded a good behaviour into a bad one.
I really cant believe the supidity and incompetence of the guy in charge.
I feel like kicking some balls. This is angering me so much!
I can feel the adrenaline rising, my fist is about to smash the display, and if I wasn't so well behaved and calm by nature, I'd throw that ****ing iBook out of the sodding window.
What the **** do they think they are doing?

Damn, damn, damn! :mad:

[TorbX]

So much for the X.3.3.

Due to the fan running constantly on my PowerBook rev. A 12" 867 MHz, I decided to do a clean install and return to 10.3.1. Its hot, yes, but I was used to that.

Again the machine is nice to my ears. The fan went on my nerves!

When I first got this machine, it came with 10.2.6. The first thing my mac-sceptic buddy commented, was that it was such a quiet machine. I intend to keep it that way!

We'll meet again at 10.3.4 or 10.4, Apple.

[dcentity2000]

Installed update on my iBook 900MHz G3 (White) and no problems. Seems a bit more stable with various glitches from 10.3.2 gone. Also slightly faster. Note: Slightly.

[MacRAND]

Installed update on my iBook 900MHz G3 (White) and no problems. Seems a bit more stable with various glitches from 10.3.2 gone. Also slightly faster. Note: Slightly.I've noticed on my iBook 700MHz (max RAM) that both the STARTUP and SHUTDOWN are faster. I agree that it appears to be more stable, and the redraws, scrolls, and such are just plain snappy, fast. I like it. :D

[Windowlicker]

running it now.. seems to work fine. can't really notice any difference, but i guess it's quite an update if the size is what it is..

[michaelrjohnson]

Who was having problems installing with SoftwareUpdate?

To the poster who found that SU failed mid-install, Apple recommends downloading the stand-alone installer and installing over the partial-update.

HTH,
AppleMatt


thank you very much for replying to my post!! i didn't think of that.

[andyduncan]

10.3.3 Did not make my system any faster. I checked system profiler before the update and my machine was a 450mhz g4. I checked system profiler after the update and it still listed my machine as a 450mhz g4. This is ************!

[gerlitzappel]

10.3.3 Did not make my system any faster. I checked system profiler before the update and my machine was a 450mhz g4. I checked system profiler after the update and it still listed my machine as a 450mhz g4. This is ************!

Did you try holding down the option key before opening the system profiler?

[Lancetx]

So much for the X.3.3.

Due to the fan running constantly on my PowerBook rev. A 12" 867 MHz, I decided to do a clean install and return to 10.3.1. Its hot, yes, but I was used to that.

Again the machine is nice to my ears. The fan went on my nerves!

When I first got this machine, it came with 10.2.6. The first thing my mac-sceptic buddy commented, was that it was such a quiet machine. I intend to keep it that way!

We'll meet again at 10.3.4 or 10.4, Apple.

If your CPU doesn't melt first before those updates come along. :p To each his own, but I'm glad Apple made this change, I much prefer the much cooler running PowerBook as it is now. It would get VERY hot prior to 10.3.2 and now it is right where it should be temp wise. The fan does not run constantly and actually it runs no more often than it does on the HP laptop I use at work so it doesn't bother me at all. Not to mention that it has to help extend the life of the notebook now that it literally isn't hot enough to fry an egg on. But like I said, to each his own, but I must say I much prefer things the way Apple has them now...

[ZildjianKX]

I did a search here but did not come up with a notice of another important update: Fan Control Update 1.0.

Here is a link:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/fancontrolupdate.html

The update supposedly gives G5 users greater fan control. Sounds good -- has anyone downloaded the update?

I downloaded it and attempted to install it on my 1.8 SP G5... the installation said I couldn't install it on my system... go figure.

[jap4n]

:(

apple are sad guys. this update didnt fix any of my SMB issues.

for some reason i have trouble file sharing between my mac and pcs. sometimes i cant drag and drop because of "Insufficent privillages". uh, but the privillages are "all for anyone". stupid... works if i restart. or zip the file/s on my pc.

i'm really annoyed and am thinking about going back to friggin' jaguar!

jaguars networking was teh cool
panther is teh sux0r

[johnnyjibbs]

Although I voted positive on this story, I have to say that, after a day's use, not much seems different. I couldn't give a stuff about network shares now appearing on the desktop and sidebar - it's just extra clutter. Unfortunately, the actual network sharing still appears to be the same - the Finder freezes (beachball of death) for about 30 seconds before either coming up with "original location cannot be found" gag or just stalling and requiring a relaunch. If I do connect I have to go through an additional dialogue before actually connecting.

The fan issue thing must only be to do with the rev A 12" PBs becuase I've seen no difference on my 1GHz machine prior to 10.3.2 or after or 10.3.3.

Other than that, everything seems pretty much the same. It may feel snappier, but it's hard to tell. It was pretty snappy before (except window resizing). Oddly, Word seems much faster, which is nice.

[dloomer]

Probably because you're trying to logon to a server in a different netbios domain. Use the connect-to-server dialogue with the following format:

smb://YourNETBIOSdomain;username@server/share

or

smb://YourNETBIOSdomain;username@server.YourDNSdomain/share

...obviously using appropriate values for the placeholder words I used above.

So far Baron's solution is the only way I can get my SMB working now that I have 10.3.3 -- but I'll take it. My problem was not with domain name/IP, it works either way; it's more that in the Network browser it keeps giving me "original item could not be found." Even though OX X created this alias and thus it should KNOW where the original item is.

Anyway. I'm not sure why the above solved my problem -- the domain I enter is the same as the workgroup I have SMB configured for in Directory Access, but whatever. My other problem is that I thought I could be clever and create aliased from my two mounted volumes, put them in a sidebar folder, and have really quick access to my Win2k shares -- worked for a while until I left the PB asleep for a few hours, then I get the "original item could not be found" meaning I have to do the "Connect to Server..." all over again. Not a huge deal, I just added the two volumes to my favorite servers, it's just an extra step. It's unbelievable I'm so willing to settle for that though ... I'm afraid I'm starting to think like a Windows user.

Anyway, as far as I can see the reaction is pretty mixed at best as far as what Apple did to SMB in 10.3.3. Can't wait for 10.3.4 (although for all we know that won't be a networking release -- might have to wait for 10.3.5 or, heaven forbid, 10.4 before SMB works as pleasurably well as Apple users have come to expect a Mac to behave).

[evilsprung]

After 10.3.2, my PB's fan was always active. I used a little program called silentnight or something like that to stop it from blowing (reversed apple's new cooling seetings)

10.3.3. put me back on this one. The darn thing is blowing again... REALLY ANNOYING!

EDIT:
Everything is much snappier, though. For my PB 12" rev A, this was a real powerboost.

Later,
-TorbX.

So would you say the annoyance is the same or worse? Thanks.

[fluidinclusion]

10.3.3 Did not make my system any faster. I checked system profiler before the update and my machine was a 450mhz g4. I checked system profiler after the update and it still listed my machine as a 450mhz g4. This is ************!


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA. Be glad it didn't make it a 350 MHZ Yosemite.

[Lucky736]

Graphics in the OS are alot smotther. Like they were in 10.3.2, lots less choppiness. That said though, the ONLY game I have loaded on my Powerbook 867 15" with 1 gig of RAM is Halo. Now whenever you hold the button to move and try to aim it sputters and seems to be very choppy, slow at time, and even unstable almost. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Hopefully it's an issue with the game and not the update. Everything else seems a hair quicker though, and quartz extreme seems to work better again. My 0.02


Mike

OVERALL A GOOD UPGRADE, MY POWERBOOK SHOULDN'T BE AN EXPENSIVE PS2 ANYWAY :)

[rdowns]

I'm making you famous, do I have to make you rich?
I want one too.
...and I'm close to getting my training wheels removed at the 500 mark.
Got any ideas?

Did you click on the ...

in the prior post?
.

Rich is good.

Here's an idea. :D

[zync]

Okay, waiting 3 months for 10.3.3 to fix some of my samba problems... still not perfect...

Waiting 5 months and counting for Apple to fix the glitchy 2.1 iPod software...

Are they always this nice to switchers? :)

Be glad you have OTG playlists at least...oh and if you still need SMB then you're not much of a switcher :) J/K

[evilsprung]

WRONG WRONG WRONG

Apple's Engineers have done a remarkable job of making networking almost effortless and seamless. There is obviously something very wrong with your system. I have a 10.2.8 node and it is readily available on both my Panther nodes in a matter of seconds. Having mounted volumes appear in the finder window's left pane is an outstanding improvement in the networking paradigm.

And my Jaguar 10.2.8 node is rapidly mounting the Panther volumes in the old style. You better do a clean install and start over. That will get rid of all your complaints. They are misdirected at Apple engineering instead of yourself.

hhaha, it's nice to know you're helping the guy out, but damn could you have sounded less like ass?

[greg6028]

Don't think Auto-Fill went anywhere. In the MENU bar
pull down VIEW and check Auto-Fill so it appears in the Menu Bar
pull down EDIT and select AutoFill Form.
pull down SAFARI > Preferences, and select what you want AutoFill to fill in for you.

Sometimes a page I want to Auto-Fill won't accept Safari for a form fill-in, so I open another browser, drag&drop the URL address oer, and placate everyone. I agree with you, auto-Fill is very important.

Could you explain your last statement how you got your autofill to work?

MacRand;
I hate to disagree with you, but Apple addressed the info about autofill with the latest release of Safari. Banks do not like autofill with their web sites. Thus there is a code in their web site link that tells autofill not to work. (I'll have to find the Apple release about this)
As far as working, it does for NON Bank account sites - so I must have autofill active for it to do so.

When you say it works with your bank, can you assess your banks accounts? Because I can if I type in the passwords - just autofill will not do this. (but it does in Safari 1.1 - not in 1.2.1)

[zync]

In System Preferences under Keyboard and Mouse, there's a Scrolling Speed setting, upping that will make safari scroll faster. Mozilla probably ignores that setting.

1. I've already said this...
2. Don't forget this greatly speeds up scrolling in other apps!

I'm going to send them a report to see if it's something they can fix and haven't noticed....my update has been going well and finally they damn function key works as expected on my PowerBook....it used to be that even when doing FN+F1 my birghtness would change...same with the rest of the F keys (they'd do their respective tasks) except for like F6, F7 and of course F11&12.....

[rdowns]

I've noticed on my iBook 700MHz (max RAM) that both the STARTUP and SHUTDOWN are faster. I agree that it appears to be more stable, and the redraws, scrolls, and such are just plain snappy, fast. I like it. :D

Installed it today on my iBook G3/900 with 640 MB RAM. Start up is much, much faster as is shut down.

One of the reps who works for me is in the market for a new computer. Asked me why I like Macs. Was my chance to convert another.

Booted it up and he was impressed by the speed. Plugged in an Ethernet cable and showed him how I just saw all the computers on our network without doing a thing. Proceeded to show him all the apps Apple gives you.

Fell in love with the Dock and its effects. Picked up on the concept of putting folders in it for easy access. Talked about creating users and how his wife and kids could have different access and set it up so they don't ****** things up.

Safari (was very impressed with tabs, pop up blocker and keychain access to a number of sites requiring passwords), iCal, iPhoto (had him beam me a photo via our Sony Clie s, mounted the memory stick on my Mac and imported in iPhoto, edited and cropped it and emailed it to his house), iTunes and iMovie. Funny thing was, as all these apps were open, he asked if I ever got an hourglass (beachball to us) and I didn't get one once. 10.3.3 has really improved my system performance. Showed him Office and how wasy it is to read PC Word and Excel files.

Said he wanted to spend around $600. Told him to go for $800 or so and he could have all this. Jumped over to the Apple Store and showed him a refurb eMac for $699. (now gone but I'm sure more will appear). Is seriously considering it.

Got home and had an email from him with a list of questions. I think I got him. If not, I'll just fire his ass.

[zync]

Actually it appears that in the newer version of Safari (1.2.1) the slow scrolling issue has been fixed somewhat...

[jsw]

I've been using 10.3.3 for the whole day on several Macs - a dual 2GHz/1.5GB/320GB G5, an 800 MHz/512MB/80GB 17" iMac, and a 400 Mhz/320MB/6GB Lombard G3 PowerBook. Primarily, I've been using the G5 (need to enjoy it before, in a week or three, it becomes one of the "slow" G5's), but I've played around on the other two as well. I shut all three off completely to check out cold booting, and no problems.

I've seen no problems, either during or after installing. My firewall was still up, my autofill worked as before, etc. None of the other problems reported by others was visible to me, although I've done no Samba-related testing. I'd like to say that things feel faster, but I have no hard numbers to back that up with. Certainly, nothing seems slower. Halo seems OK, but I only played with it for a few minutes, and that might not have been enough time.

My "professional" programs (OmniGraffle Pro, Office, etc.) all seem to work fine.

One thing which was fixed and not previously noted (perhaps I was the only one with the problem?) is that muting once again works for me when I'm using the optical digital out on the G5 - 10.3.2 (or was it 10.3.1?) broke it - the muting (via keyboard or GUI) had no effect on the digital out. Now, though, it has resumed working correctly.

Overall, I'm very happy with the update, at least for now (I seem to have been lucky so far, so I expect to wake up to find that my hard drives have all melted or something).

[MacRAND]

Could you explain your last statement how you got your autofill to work?

MacRand;
I hate to disagree with you, but Apple addressed the info about autofill with the latest release of Safari. Banks do not like autofill with their web sites. Thus there is a code in their web site link that tells autofill not to work. (I'll have to find the Apple release about this)
As far as working, it does for NON Bank account sites - so I must have autofill active for it to do so.

When you say it works with your bank, can you assess your banks accounts? Because I can if I type in the passwords - just autofill will not do this. (but it does in Safari 1.1 - not in 1.2.1)Greg, do not interpret my post as relating to use of Auto-Fill with a BANK site, I did not intend to include banks.
Sorry, you were pretty clear about the "bank" issue.

I was simply observing that some sites (not including nor excluding banks) which will not permit Safari to AUTO-FILL, will work with MS IE; sometimes, neither are permitted.

[WM.]

I used the program Pacifist to open the file up from my Pather CD. Then reinstalled it in my App. folder - overwriting 1.2.1 Safari App.
What about WebKit? Safari.app is just some GUI and other wrappers for WebKit, AFAIK...so by doing that you've got some crazy mix of 1.1 and 1.2 going. If it works, so be it, but I wouldn't recommend it.

WM

[ct77]

I've only seen one somewhat-related post on this topic... so, has anyone had success with connecting to networked drives hosted on a Windows 2003 Server that has packet signing / encryption enabled? This is the default setup for a W2K shared drive, so unless one has a benevolent network admin that disables the encryption, it is an important issue for Mac-using clients like myself.

Samba 3.0, which Panther uses, supports these types of connections.

However, connecting to W2K shares with packet signing has not worked in 10.3.0, 10.3.1, and 10.3.2... anyone know if 10.3.3 solves this particular issue?

Here's hoping! :)

My hope has been dashed. This does not seem to work.

I connect with:

smb://DOMAIN;username@server.mycompany.com/sharename

I am then prompted for login credentials, and then I get a dialog saying my login credentials are not correct.

Crap. :(

[garybooberry]

XBench 10.3.2 - 137 (average of three runs)
Xbench 10.3.3 - 142 (average of three runs)

:D

[jap4n]

fingers crossed for 10.3.4 then huh?

[Counterfit]

WOOHOO! Changing Junk Mail status works again!! :D :D :D :D :D

[Indiana Mac]

Overall, I think that this update(like Panther in general is a mixed bag). I do see an overall increase in system responsiveness, and browsing networks is faster. However, I am also having the problem of a server(2000, on a home LAN) that had worked before now when I browse, the alias not being able to find the server. Because of that I hated to vote negative but back pedaling on networking is unacceptable(espescially considering how much of a backwards step Panther compared to Jag.)

[anidel]

Believe me, there is a BIG bug in the UT2004 Demo. On Single Processor Macs it runs with maximum the half frame rate, try this:

Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/

and edit the UT2004.ini file just with Textedit.

Change:
Channels=6
CacheSizeMegs=32 (your VideoRAMsize)
VARSize= 32 (again)

at OpenGL (not Direct3D ;-):
LevelOfAnisotropy=0

and if you want:
Use16BitTextures=True

These was just small tweaking! Now to work around the bug you MUST turn off audio, to get 2 or 3 times the frame-rate as before (indoor runs very smooth now on my 800Mhz iMacG4, all effects, high resolution, etc.)

THIS IS IMPORTANT (ONLY single-CPU Macs!:
The same file as before:
Open home/library/application support/unreal tournament2004/System/UT2004.ini

UseSound=False

At the Engine.GameEngine!

This is extremely important, turning off the sound works around the bug UT2004 has with single CPU machines. It runs at least twice as fast then. You will see it, now even the menu runs smooth :-)

Sorry for the OT.

Dude YOU ROCK! My pb12" 867Mhz 640Mb of RAM can now play it WITH EVERYTHING ON and NORMAL SETTINGS at 1024x768x32bit very smoothly!!! That's great! Considering that right after installing it I could NOT play at all even a 800x600x16 and everything off and low settings! And you say "it just small tweaking"!! The sound bug was responsible for just half of the slowdown! Even removing sound I couldn't play...

Thanks!

Anidel

[pptiger]

Hello all,

Please help me.

I installed the 10.3.3 update last night. After it downloaded, it looked like it was installing, then I got a error message saying that it was unable to install the update, and that I should choose "just download" or something similar from the menu, and then try manually installing the update after that. I looked in the tasks and saw that I had classic running, so I thought it would be a good idea to clear that and everything else out before I tried installing it again. So I restart my computer. When the screen comes up with the apple on top and everything loading, it hangs at "login screen starting". It won't go any further. I've restarted more times than I can remember. I got the Panther UPGRADE disk out, repaired permissions, restarted. Same thing. So I tried to do an archive and install. When I try to select the HD, it says that it cannot install on this drive because there isn't a previous version of Mac OS X on it.

Sorry for the long post, but I really need some help with this.

Thanks in advance

Peace

That's exactly what happened to my iBook, anyone else had such experience?

[busasa]

after installing the .3 patch, when i ran the disk utility there always this msg of
Determining correct file permissions.
We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util. New permissions are 33261
The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume


Is this normal?? i've ran the repair for like million times, and each time it shows this msg. The computer seems a bit unstable too.

[luke_s]

i installed the update yesterday, during install i got this nice "please reboot your computer now" screen, and now my pb starts up showing me the friendly apple being replaced by an unfriendly crossed circle sign. does anyone know if the system is completley ********* up or if there's still hope?

thanks

btw: repair disc and file permissions from install cd didn't help

[Darrin Bell]

Yes, my hp printer had the same problem a while ago. The fix was to delete the CANON drivers from the library. It did work, don't ask me why.Thanks, I removed every printer file other than Epson and HP (the two brands I have). I also repaired permissions, and when I tried again it worked.

Unfortunately, I didn't try repairing permissions earlier, so I don't know if it was that, the printer files, or a combination of the two that did the trick.

[groovebuster]

after installing the .3 patch, when i ran the disk utility there always this msg of
Determining correct file permissions.
We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util. New permissions are 33261
The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume

I have the same phenomenon on all of my Macs (4)! Very odd!

I also installed the driver for my hp deskjet 5550 from hp on one of them. Now everytime after I used the printer it has to "repair" file permissions for all files related to the driver... What the f...?

Other than that I don't have any problems with the Update so far. Only thing was that my system on my upgraded Quicksilver (1.2GHz Sonnet Tech.) froze when I wanted to reboot after installing the update. But since then it is running just fine.

I am not sure what to think about all that...

groovebuster

[ZildjianKX]

Anyone else notice their idle CPU usage seems to be a lot higher now?

[zync]

XBench 10.3.2 - 137 (average of three runs)
Xbench 10.3.3 - 142 (average of three runs)

:D

My XBench scores are about 1-5 points lower :( However, everything has increased pretty dramatically in every aspect except disk performance! I'm chalking this up to defragmentation. I thought I had once seen a defrag program somewhere on my computer, does anyone know if this exists? I can't find one now....

10.3.3 finally makes my computer snappy again like it was when I first got it....and it reverting my boot time to the speed it used to be....I think it might've actually gotten a little faster in the process as well (can't find where I wrote it down)....I dropped about 40 seconds off of my boot time, including logging-in, in 10.3.2!

Also does anyone know how to stop internet connect from asking me if I want to stay online!? It's really freaking annoying....I hated it back in the day when AOL did that now internet connect is doing it. It never did it when USB Bluetooth Modem Adapter was selected instead of Internal Modem, even though they both used the same thing, but since I've altered the order of my networking devices, IC has asked me this question periodically. I don't want to have to change it back, anyone have any ideas?

[erron]

So far Baron's solution is the only way I can get my SMB working now that I have 10.3.3 -- but I'll take it. My problem was not with domain name/IP, it works either way; it's more that in the Network browser it keeps giving me "original item could not be found." Even though OX X created this alias and thus it should KNOW where the original item is.


The problem is samba and windows are both fighting to be the local master browser. I have windows xp, mandrake linux and os x all fighting it out. I was able to get the XP and linux to play nice but no matter how i tweaked the smb.conf os x just wouldn't let me browse. so i did 2 simple things:
#1 deleted everything in the /var/automount/ directory
#2 made a seperate workgroup for my 17"PB so i have HOME for the xp and linux and HOMEMAC for os x.
The XP is the local master browser for the HOME work group as well as the domain master browser and os x is the local master for the HOMEMAC group. leave the IPs on the same subnet so you don't have to worry about remote anouncements. Give it a try.. it can't hurt. If you do try it run "nmblookup -M -- -" from the terminal i bet it tells you it can't find the master browser. After you change it, it should come back something like this:
mac:~ ej$ nmblookup -M -- -
querying __MSBROWSE__ on 192.168.1.255
192.168.1.1 __MSBROWSE__<01>

hope it helps

[XnavxeMiyyep]

Also does anyone know how to stop internet connect from asking me if I want to stay online!? It's really freaking annoying....I hated it back in the day when AOL did that now internet connect is doing it. It never did it when USB Bluetooth Modem Adapter was selected instead of Internal Modem, even though they both used the same thing, but since I've altered the order of my networking devices, IC has asked me this question periodically. I don't want to have to change it back, anyone have any ideas?
Go to System Preferences and go to Network. In the "show" drop down menu, select "Internal Modem". Then, you will see 4 buttons right under the menu; pick PPP. Click on the "PPP Options..." button. From the drop down menu that appears, uncheck "Prompt every __ minutes to maintain connection", and click okay. Click apply now in the Network preference, and everything should work.

[Windowlicker]

ok i know this is totally off topic, but how the hell do I make a gif icon to be my avatar?! at the avatar tab on my user profile it only says "No Avatar Specified" and there is no check boxes or any other buttons I could use to specify an avatar. :P

[MattG]

ok i know this is totally off topic, but how the hell do I make a gif icon to be my avatar?! at the avatar tab on my user profile it only says "No Avatar Specified" and there is no check boxes or any other buttons I could use to specify an avatar. :PYou need to have 500+ posts before you can have an avatar. Macrumors rule!

[jvaska]

this thread is incredibly long and i've read much of it...

but does anybody know why there are so many "negatives" attached to this news report? very curious about this...perhaps macrumors team keeps track of IP's or something on this? is it for real?

v

[blue&whiteman]

I updated to 10.3.3 with no problems via sw update. seems a tad faster now but not enough to make me be too excited.

[dabirdwell]

i installed the update yesterday, during install i got this nice "please reboot your computer now" screen, and now my pb starts up showing me the friendly apple being replaced by an unfriendly crossed circle sign. does anyone know if the system is completley ********* up or if there's still hope?

thanks

btw: repair disc and file permissions from install cd didn't help

Here's a screenshot, Help!

[displaced]

The problem is samba and windows are both fighting to be the local master browser. I have windows xp, mandrake linux and os x all fighting it out. I was able to get the XP and linux to play nice but no matter how i tweaked the smb.conf os x just wouldn't let me browse. so i did 2 simple things:
#1 deleted everything in the /var/automount/ directory
#2 made a seperate workgroup for my 17"PB so i have HOME for the xp and linux and HOMEMAC for os x.
The XP is the local master browser for the HOME work group as well as the domain master browser and os x is the local master for the HOMEMAC group. leave the IPs on the same subnet so you don't have to worry about remote anouncements. Give it a try.. it can't hurt. If you do try it run "nmblookup -M -- -" from the terminal i bet it tells you it can't find the master browser. After you change it, it should come back something like this:
mac:~ ej$ nmblookup -M -- -
querying __MSBROWSE__ on 192.168.1.255
192.168.1.1 __MSBROWSE__<01>

hope it helps

I just cranked up the 'os level' and set 'preferred master' to 'yes' in my Mac's /etc/smb.conf file to make sure that the Mac always won browser elections against my PCs. My Mac's essentially the server on my network anyway -- it does the NAT'ing and firewalling for the LAN. With my current setup, the /var/log/samba/log.nmbd file shows that it's always acting as the master browser.

... but as I mentioned in an earlier post, netbios computer names aren't getting resolved, so I can't connect via the Network browser in the Finder, but I can connect using an IP address and Go -> Connect to Server.

Still not got around to investigating how name resolution works on OS X's implementation. Hopefully it's the same as other Unixes, and all I've got to do is check the resolve order setting in the samba config file....

fingers crossed, eh.

[dloomer]

The problem is samba and windows are both fighting to be the local master browser. I have windows xp, mandrake linux and os x all fighting it out. I was able to get the XP and linux to play nice but no matter how i tweaked the smb.conf os x just wouldn't let me browse. so i did 2 simple things:
#1 deleted everything in the /var/automount/ directory
#2 made a seperate workgroup for my 17"PB so i have HOME for the xp and linux and HOMEMAC for os x.
The XP is the local master browser for the HOME work group as well as the domain master browser and os x is the local master for the HOMEMAC group. leave the IPs on the same subnet so you don't have to worry about remote anouncements. Give it a try.. it can't hurt. If you do try it run "nmblookup -M -- -" from the terminal i bet it tells you it can't find the master browser. After you change it, it should come back something like this:
mac:~ ej$ nmblookup -M -- -
querying __MSBROWSE__ on 192.168.1.255
192.168.1.1 __MSBROWSE__<01>

hope it helps

Thanks erron. I'll try those, although even without trying them when I issue that command I get:

er$ nmblookup -M -- -
querying __MSBROWSE__ on 10.0.0.255
10.0.0.39 __MSBROWSE__<01>

And browsing still doesn't work. Oh well, like I said, I've adopted the Windows mentality and accepted mediocrity, so I'm not too bent out of shape over it.

[hesitaliandad]

anyone else having problems getting a usb thumb drive to mount to the desktop. it shows up under the system profiler when it's plugged in, but won't show up on the desktop. worked perfectly until 10.3.3. any help is appreciated. :confused:

[zync]

Go to System Preferences and go to Network. In the "show" drop down menu, select "Internal Modem". Then, you will see 4 buttons right under the menu; pick PPP. Click on the "PPP Options..." button. From the drop down menu that appears, uncheck "Prompt every __ minutes to maintain connection", and click okay. Click apply now in the Network preference, and everything should work.

Thank you very much...I didn't even think of that since I never use PPP because of AOL (at least I didn't think AOL used PPP)! I never even noticed the PPP Options button, had I seen that it would've been promptly disabled!

[kasei]

My 17" Powerbook with 1 gig of RAM is 3 months old and after updating the system to 10.3.3 I woke up to my first Kernal Panic. Has anyone else had this problem?

[JJTiger1]

My 17" Powerbook with 1 gig of RAM is 3 months old and after updating the system to 10.3.3 I woke up to my first Kernal Panic. Has anyone else had this problem?

I updated to 10.3.3 at the local Apple Store, using their T-1. The nearly 60 meg file via dialup would have been fruitless.

While I was there, two customers brought in their recent model laptops with similar problems that you describe.

Before and after you download and install software updaters:

REPAIR PERMISSIONS, REPAIR PERMISSIONS, REPAIR PERMISSIONS !!!

[MacRAND]

anyone else having problems getting a usb thumb drive to mount to the desktop. it shows up under the system profiler when it's plugged in, but won't show up on the desktop. worked perfectly until 10.3.3. any help is appreciated. :confused:There does appear to be a "USB Drive" bug of some sort affecting SOME Macs.

Can't really help you because you did NOT fill out your User PROFILE when you joined / have NOT kept your Profile up to date.
http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?userid=19717

In the Menu bar to the far left, click on User CP, then Click on Edit User Profile and Edit Signature (where you can tell everyone what computers you have) and do the deeds.

However, you did run REPAIR DISK PERMISSION, right?

[wdlove]

Anyone else notice their idle CPU usage seems to be a lot higher now?

I hope that it won't be too much, don't want to decrease my folding.

[TorbX]

Hello everyone.

Am I the only one with fan-problems when using 10.3.3? It just keeps blowing and blowing. I have a PB rev a 12" 867MHz 640 mb ram.

Now I'm back at 10.3.1...

[ingenious]

10.3.3 is sooooo fast on my PB (c below). It starts up faster than my 'hacked' ver of 10.3.2. I love the new safari! It finally convinced me to switch completely from IE. Mail hasnt crashed yet either! It's now handling my httpmail bundle perfectly. I have had no programs crash, and my Darwin kernel is no at 7.3.0. I have two questions:

1. I have the hardware icon in sys prefs. is there a way to set the CPU to auto, instead of just nap or not nap? if its not on nap, it runs constantly. (theres a tip for the ppl with the fan crzy PBs)
2. I shut the lid while my PB was shutting down. When I opened it, the screen had four bars on it, alternating white and black. then a bar that looked like an OS X bar came up and had three buttons on it, resembling the bottom of the login window (sleep, restart, shut down). Was that a kernel panic? If so, thats my first one in upgrading continuously since i got my PB in July of 2003 (thats 10.2.3-10.2.5-10.2.6-10.2.7-10.2.8-10.3.0-10.3.1-10.3.2-10.3.3)
3. wheres the pref in safari to make it act like MSIE if a site rejects it because its safari and not IE?

:confused:

[ingenious]

Hello everyone.

Am I the only one with fan-problems when using 10.3.3? It just keeps blowing and blowing. I have a PB rev a 12" 867MHz 640 mb ram.

Now I'm back at 10.3.1...

Same here- Ive got a Rev A 12" PB G4 with 256 and it blows all of the time, but when I set nap in the hardware prefs, it slows down and sometimes it stops. It didnt start until i unchecked nap tho.

[hesitaliandad]

There does appear to be a "USB Drive" bug of some sort affecting SOME Macs.

Can't really help you because you did NOT fill out your User PROFILE when you joined / have NOT kept your Profile up to date.
http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?userid=19717

In the Menu bar to the far left, click on User CP, then Click on Edit User Profile and Edit Signature (where you can tell everyone what computers you have) and do the deeds.

However, you did run REPAIR DISK PERMISSION, right?

ok, i updated all that stuff, but for the record i have a 1ghz Albook 15". that better? and yes i did repair permissions...twice. i hope that narrows down any system specific issues there could be. thanks for the help.

[Windowlicker]

You need to have 500+ posts before you can have an avatar. Macrumors rule!

ok thx... will take some time hehe

[Gaffa Bug]

After the 10.3.3 update, the DVD Player is all screwed up. Any DVD that I play has blocks of distortion throughout the entire movie. Could someone please test playing a DVD and tell me if I'm the only one who experienced this crap? It was so annoying that I did a backup and did a clean install to 10.3.2. Now, it plays normally... but I'm lacking the ability for DVD Player to read DVD-R. This sucks!

[MacRAND]

ok, i updated all that stuff, (your Profile, EXCELLENT! Thank you) but for the record
I have a 1ghz Albook 15". that better? (YES, much!)
and yes i did repair permissions...twice. (GOOD)
i hope that narrows down any system specific issues there could be. thanks for the help.I suggest you start a new thread by this name,
USB drives disappear after 10.3.3 update - HELP! describing your experience, which Mac you have, and the type of "USB Drive" being affected.
This way those who have the problem will know about each other, and
hopefully someone who has found a solution
without having to reinitializing your main hard drive & reinstalling Panther
will share it with you - maybe AppleCare helped them.

Read back in this thread, you will find the names of others, maybe even one who has found an easy solution.
Key words to look for: USB drive

[encro]

Well I'm pleased with 10.3.3 :)

The graphics drivers for GForce MX2 32meg work a lot better based on a before and after test in Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon and an Exposé/Finder test also. Smoother yay!

I have posted an online list of the changes from the OS X 10.3.3 Archive.bom if anyone is interested.

URL Link: OS X 10.3.3 System Changes (http://home.iprimus.com.au/scjacobs/OSX1033.html) (455k html page)

Cheers

[MacRAND]

After the 10.3.3 update, the DVD Player is all screwed up. Any DVD that I play has blocks of distortion throughout the entire movie. Could someone please test playing a DVD and tell me if I'm the only one who experienced this crap? It was so annoying that I did a backup and did a clean install to 10.3.2. Now, it plays normally... but I'm lacking the ability for DVD Player to read DVD-R. This sucks! Did this happen to you on an
iBook? HOW can anyone really help you if you did NOT fill out your User PROFILE when you joined OR
you have NOT kept your Profile up to date.
http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?userid=19717

In the Menu bar to the far left, click on your User CP, then Click on
Edit User Profile and
Edit Signature (where you can tell everyone what computers you have) and do the deeds.

However, you did run REPAIR DISK PERMISSION, right?

[encro]

No problems with DVD Player display rendering quality (Pixel Blocking) and my IOmega USB drive appears on the desktop.

[ingenious]

since the official 10.3.3 has been released, can u ADC guys tell us what wuz happening to those 20" iMacs? Or does it still violate ur NDA? :D

[geoffrevB]

I don't see any new options related to UPS's in the energy saver preference panel that were mentioned earlier in this thread. In fact it seems that the update didn't replace the system preferences application which is still v2.2.

[benpatient]

YAY! Mail works without crashing every time i try and use it, now!

and they said there was nothing wrong with the trash filters...clearly there was, because they had to "enhance" Mail to make it quit "unexpectedly failing"

oh wait...crap....iChat Rendezvous messaging is giving me an unknown error and freezing....

grrrr....

Why has Panther been so "fix one thing, break another"?

[encro]

I don't see any new options related to UPS's in the energy saver preference panel that were mentioned earlier in this thread. In fact it seems that the update didn't replace the system preferences application which is still v2.2.

Oh man. Did you look at the list of updates to 10.3.3 that I posted via the link a few messages ago?

nope? didn't think so...

The list of changes includes the EnergySaver.prefPane (as well as BlueTooth.prefPane, Ink.prefPane, Keyboard.prefPane, Network.prefPane and Security.prefPane). You won't see the changes to the EnergySaver.prefPane unless you have a UPS connected.

Can anyone tell me if the InkWell update improves the accuracy/reliability at all? I don't have a Wacom tablet to check.

[Geek73]

{minor snip}

One of the reps who works for me is in the market for a new computer. Asked me why I like Macs. Was my chance to convert another.

{major snip}

Said he wanted to spend around $600. Told him to go for $800 or so and he could have all this. Jumped over to the Apple Store and showed him a refurb eMac for $699. (now gone but I'm sure more will appear). Is seriously considering it.

Got home and had an email from him with a list of questions. I think I got him. If not, I'll just fire his ass.

This was one of the funniest posts I have read in a very long time. Great story. Great setup. Great delivery!

[gerlitzappel]

After the 10.3.3 update, the DVD Player is all screwed up. Any DVD that I play has blocks of distortion throughout the entire movie. Could someone please test playing a DVD and tell me if I'm the only one who experienced this crap? It was so annoying that I did a backup and did a clean install to 10.3.2. Now, it plays normally... but I'm lacking the ability for DVD Player to read DVD-R. This sucks!

I played a DVD on my 1GHz eMac w/Combo Drive, works perfectly.

[MacRAND]

This was one of the funniest posts I have read in a very long time. Great story. Great setup. Great delivery!FUNNY? You probably thought rdowns was just kidding around, huh?
NO, he's totally serious, man.
rdowns is really going to fire that dude's arse
if the guy proves how stupid he is by picking a PC instead of a Mac.
Rightly, so, don't you think? Especially, if the guy really checks it out.
It's kind of a combined Intelligence Test and Reality Check. Duh!
He he he he... :D

[telecomm]

Maybe this has been noticed already (I didn't read all 16 pages!), but I just burned a CD-RW and only got one disc icon when it was finished. Finally seems to work right. As far as I can recall, it still gave two disc icons after burning under 10.3.2.

[jsw]

Maybe this has been noticed already (I didn't read all 16 pages!), but I just burned a CD-RW and only got one disc icon when it was finished. Finally seems to work right. As far as I can recall, it still gave two disc icons after burning under 10.3.2.

On a similar note:

Due to partial amnesia, I can no longer remember how this worked prior to 10.3.3, but now, when I burn a DVD (a data one, done by copying files to the icon and burning it via the Finder sidebar), the DVD icon disappears until I eject and reinsert the DVD.

Did it always work that way?

[telecomm]

On a similar note:

...when I burn a DVD (a data one, done by copying files to the icon and burning it via the Finder sidebar), the DVD icon disappears until I eject and reinsert the DVD.

Did it always work that way?

Can't help you here, I don't have superdrive.

[Gaffa Bug]

Did this happen to you on an
iBook?

My config is as follows: (I'll update my CP)

PM 867MHz SP Quicksilver
1.5 GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Thanks to everyone who helped out with my question! -Most thoughtful.

[blybug]

Installed 10.3.3 on

G3 400 Pismo Powerbook
G4 867 Quicksilver PowerMac
G4 800 12" iBook

No problems with anything anywhere.

:)

[zync]

since the official 10.3.3 has been released, can u ADC guys tell us what wuz happening to those 20" iMacs? Or does it still violate ur NDA? :D

Dude, that was back in 10.2.8, so if they haven't told you about it by now why would 10.3.3 being released make any difference?

Can anyone tell me if the InkWell update improves the accuracy/reliability at all? I don't have a Wacom tablet to check.

Why would it matter to you then? :)

Can't help you here, I don't have superdrive.

This is not supposed to sound rude so if it does I apologize. Why reply with this? It furthers nothing and clutters the board.

[kasei]

You are absolutely right. I ran Repair Permissions over and over. I also have Tech. Tools Pro. on my system as well and ran the full system scan. I still have 2 critical errors that I can't seem to iron out. Other than my first Kernal Panic, 10.3.3 has really bumped up my system's speed.

Now if I can get the pinyin (Mandarin Chinese tones) from showing up in Safari I would completely covert from IE. This is my first Mac and I can't see going back to a Windows world.


I updated to 10.3.3 at the local Apple Store, using their T-1. The nearly 60 meg file via dialup would have been fruitless.

While I was there, two customers brought in their recent model laptops with similar problems that you describe.

Before and after you download and install software updaters:

REPAIR PERMISSIONS, REPAIR PERMISSIONS, REPAIR PERMISSIONS !!!

[benny.c]

anyone else having problems getting a usb thumb drive to mount to the desktop. it shows up under the system profiler when it's plugged in, but won't show up on the desktop. worked perfectly until 10.3.3. any help is appreciated. :confused:

same with me. updated and my drive vanished.

i too can see it in the profiler but it will not mount :confused:

[Windowlicker]

I'm connected to the internet using a DrayTek ISDN miniVigor128 USB modem. After installing the update, my connection has been somewhat unstable. I get kind of disconnected pretty often. That means I'm not actually disconnected (or so does the system think), but I can't load anything. Also disconnecting isn't possible, except by restarting. Hope draytek announces an update or something. this isn't anything I want from my setup.

anyone else experiencing the same problem?

[JJTiger1]

You are absolutely right. I ran Repair Permissions over and over. I also have Tech. Tools Pro. on my system as well and ran the full system scan. I still have 2 critical errors that I can't seem to iron out. Other than my first Kernal Panic, 10.3.3 has really bumped up my system's speed.

Now if I can get the pinyin (Mandarin Chinese tones) from showing up in Safari I would completely covert from IE. This is my first Mac and I can't see going back to a Windows world.

When I updated to 10.3.3 at the Apple Store, the ONLY devices attached to the back of the G4-733 were:
Apple flat panel display, and ethernet cable, and power cable.

The keyboard & mouse was attached to the the monitor.

Maybe that has something to do with successful download and installation, and a lack of problems with devices at home.

HINT: Detach your peripherals before you download and install the updater.

[seraphnyc]

My config is as follows: (I'll update my CP)

PM 867MHz SP Quicksilver
1.5 GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Thanks to everyone who helped out with my question! -Most thoughtful.

I too am having this DVD player problem, so dude... you are not crazy.

I updated my TiPowerbook 550 G4 and all is fine in regards to playing DVD's.

But upon updating my PowerMac MDD G4 867DP
also with the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro I get that garbage all over my DVD movie.

Seeing that you also have the 9800 card I think it may have something to do with the updated ATI drivers (just a hunch), being that noone else here has claimed to have a 9800 pro and not have the DVD movie problem.

Does anybody here have an ATI Radeon 9800 card with the new 10.3.3 update and have had no problems playing DVD's after the update?

If the DVD player application itself was hosed I would think more people would have seen the problem, but being that the 9800 is an expensive card most people on this forum would not experience the problem due to using a card that is not the Radeon. This only further leads me to believe that it is a problem with the ATI updated drivers. I only tried Halo and the difference was noticable in terms of framerate, but I use my Mac as my home theatre as well and if I can't play DVD's what's the friggin point.

So I wouldn't blame Apple as much as (keywords) I would blame ATI.

I got so used to being able to say the updates didn't break anything and were all together positive... the rest of the OS is definitely snappier and happier (except Mail... the junk filter is broken) but at the expense of my home theatre. I will try VLC as a DVD player tonight and give you guys and update, but if it IS (keywords) the drivers VLC should make little impact.

FIX IT DAMMIT!!!

[Tailwind]

So much for the X.3.3.

Due to the fan running constantly on my PowerBook rev. A 12" 867 MHz, I decided to do a clean install and return to 10.3.1

If your PowerBook fan blows... more than it did prior to 10.3.3, here's your fix - Reset the PMU (Power Management Unit).

Reset PMU - PowerBook G4 (12-inch), PowerBook G4 (12-inch DVI), PowerBook G4 (15-inch FW 800), PowerBook G4 (17-inch) and PowerBook G4 (17-inch 1.33GHz):
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449
1. If the computer is on, turn it off.
2. Reset the power manager by simultaneously pressing and then releasing Shift-Control-Option-power on the keyboard. Do not press the fn (Function) key while using this combination of keystrokes.
3. Wait 5 seconds.
4. Press the power button to restart the computer.

I had to do this after installing 10.3.3 and once before. Works like a charm. YMMV, of course.

[benpatient]

OK....now I'm having all sorts of trouble...

i've attached an image...it's my Terminal window. No matter what I do, it doesn't get ANY bigger than what you see here...that's it.

it was fine yesterday before 10.3.3 and now it's useless...totally 100% useless.

second problem: Address Book won't open at all...If i click on address book, my processor starts churning away, and it "says" it's open in the dock, but it doesn't appear in a CMD-TAB list of programs open. And it won't bring up a window or show up in the menu bar. And my processor usage when it's "on" has gone from virtually none to literally 90% of one G5 processor and between 20 and 50% of the other one!

So i have to force-quit it from the dock (which is the only place it really shows up outside of the activity viewer).

third problem: iChat's Rendezvous chatting is totally broken on both of our G5s...also worked fine yesterday...

but, like i said earlier, my Mail app works again...at least i have that much...

[benpatient]

here's the ichat error:

[titaniumducky]

OK....now I'm having all sorts of trouble...

i've attached an image...it's my Terminal window. No matter what I do, it doesn't get ANY bigger than what you see here...that's it.

it was fine yesterday before 10.3.3 and now it's useless...totally 100% useless.

second problem: Address Book won't open at all...If i click on address book, my processor starts churning away, and it "says" it's open in the dock, but it doesn't appear in a CMD-TAB list of programs open. And it won't bring up a window or show up in the menu bar. And my processor usage when it's "on" has gone from virtually none to literally 90% of one G5 processor and between 20 and 50% of the other one!

So i have to force-quit it from the dock (which is the only place it really shows up outside of the activity viewer).

third problem: iChat's Rendezvous chatting is totally broken on both of our G5s...also worked fine yesterday...

but, like i said earlier, my Mail app works again...at least i have that much...

I don't have any problems - 15" TiBook; try repairing permissions and then restarting...

[ingenious]

My fan is working fine- for awhile i was worried, since i have the 12" Rev A PB g4, but so far, so good.

[MacRAND]

OK....now I'm having all sorts of trouble...

i've attached an image...it's my Terminal window. No matter what I do, it doesn't get ANY bigger than what you see here...that's it.

it was fine yesterday before 10.3.3 and now it's useless...totally 100% useless.Strange.
When you click on it, does the Button turn RED?, can you Click on the RED Button and make it close?

It bothers me that this is happening when your "Terminal"(the security gate to your OS X soul) is open because it looks like an involuntary SpyWare type window, some of which are almost pixel thin white strips in upper left hand corner of desktop, often .exe files (Windows applications - viruses)

When you Select it by clicking on it once, does it show up in Finder?
If so, is the name "Terminal" or something else?

Can you "Close Window" by COMMAND + W
or "Quit Application" by COMMAND + Q

Have you done a total BACK UP of all your DATA yet, in anticipation of doing a totally clean install?

[zync]

It bothers me that this is happening when your "Terminal"(the security gate to your OS X soul) is open because it looks like an involuntary SpyWare type window, some of which are almost pixel thin white strips in upper left hand corner of desktop, often .exe files (Windows applications - viruses)

This is tangent to the discussion but isn't exposé nice for this reason! If a window pops up (which doesn't happen with Safari's blocking, but hypothetically speaking) you can use expose to find it because there will be space around the window and it glows slightly! Wonderful for getting rid of that crap.

[jsw]

This is tangent to the discussion but isn't exposé nice for this reason! If a window pops up (which doesn't happen with Safari's blocking, but hypothetically speaking) you can use expose to find it because there will be space around the window and it glows slightly! Wonderful for getting rid of that crap.

Seriously. It's more than just a flashy cool feature. It really is helpful. And it isn't too tangent to the discussion ("Mac OS X 10.3.3 Released"); it's just ignoring that final ".3". :)

[benpatient]

MacRAND,

Yes, the single button you see is the "close" button...

I'm working on a backup, but i've got a (rather full) 300GB RAID array here, and it's my production work-horse...i can't afford too much down time. I can get around the terminal thing for most stuff, but it just bothers me....this was, i repeat, TOTALLY FINE before i downloaded X.P.3, and i didn't install anything else before i opened terminal again. suddenly, it was like this...

i can totally access every part of the term app except the main window. It won't drag out to a bigger size or anything. My current "window size" is set to the standard number of rows and columns, and there is no background image loaded for the term windows...it's basically clean, settings-wise. I tried changing the column and row values and seeing if it would help, but nothing changed. To clarify for everyone, i think terminal is working 100% fine, except that the actual window is only visible as the link above. Which obviously isn't enough to see anything...

*sigh*

I really don't want to do a clean install...

[benpatient]

did a little more investigation...

if i open a terminal window and copy/paste the contents into a text doc, i can see that the terminal's functionality appears totally unchanged...it's just that i can't see inside the window at all...

[Rower_CPU]

Re: Terminal Window (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54299)

[jacg]

Sorry if this is already in the thread, but it seems they didn't fix this bug.

Here's a small grab if you don't know. I'll report it to Apple again.

[Tailwind]

3. wheres the pref in safari to make it act like MSIE if a site rejects it because its safari and not IE?

You need to turn on Safari's debug menu and change the User Agent. There's a terminal command for this, but the easiest way is to use Safari Enhancer:

http://www.lordofthecows.com/safari_enhancer.php

Be sure to reset Safari when you're done so web stats show an increasing Safari population.

[Gaffa Bug]

I too am having this DVD player problem, so dude... you are not crazy.

I updated my TiPowerbook 550 G4 and all is fine in regards to playing DVD's.

But upon updating my PowerMac MDD G4 867DP
also with the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro I get that garbage all over my DVD movie.

Seeing that you also have the 9800 card I think it may have something to do with the updated ATI drivers (just a hunch), being that noone else here has claimed to have a 9800 pro and not have the DVD movie problem.

Does anybody here have an ATI Radeon 9800 card with the new 10.3.3 update and have had no problems playing DVD's after the update?

If the DVD player application itself was hosed I would think more people would have seen the problem, but being that the 9800 is an expensive card most people on this forum would not experience the problem due to using a card that is not the Radeon. This only further leads me to believe that it is a problem with the ATI updated drivers. I only tried Halo and the difference was noticable in terms of framerate, but I use my Mac as my home theatre as well and if I can't play DVD's what's the friggin point.

So I wouldn't blame Apple as much as (keywords) I would blame ATI.

I got so used to being able to say the updates didn't break anything and were all together positive... the rest of the OS is definitely snappier and happier (except Mail... the junk filter is broken) but at the expense of my home theatre. I will try VLC as a DVD player tonight and give you guys and update, but if it IS (keywords) the drivers VLC should make little impact.

FIX IT DAMMIT!!!

Since Apple seems to be releasing the new ATI drivers (unavailable at ATI website) maybe it would be helpful to send a bug report to Apple. Hopefully if they see the problem is occurring with more than one person, they'll do something about it. Otherwise, keep me posted if you find a fix.

[Doctor Q]

Be sure to reset Safari when you're done so web stats show an increasing Safari population.Good suggestion. I never thought of that before and it makes sense. Don't pose as another browser when you can help it, so the world will know we are here!

And complain to the webmaster (and Apple) when a web site doesn't work with Safari!

[0xc0ffee]

did a little more investigation...

if i open a terminal window and copy/paste the contents into a text doc, i can see that the terminal's functionality appears totally unchanged...it's just that i can't see inside the window at all...

I don't have the problem here but there's something simple you can try. The terminal preferences are stored in a file called ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist where ~ is an alias for your home directory.

Now you use TextEdit to open the file and change some of the fields, namely
<key>Columns</key>
<string>190</string>
and
<key>Rows</key>
<string>61</string>
Look at the values and if they seem reasonable you probably have a problem with the particular font you're using, ie
<key>NSFixedPitchFont</key>
<string>Courier</string>
You could try changing the value of the field to Courier to see where that brings you.

NOTE: I assumed that you tried this before: Do Command+Tab to select the terminal application and select from the menu Terminal/Settings and play with the Display and Window panels. Hope this helps

[bousozoku]

Sorry if this is already in the thread, but it seems they didn't fix this bug.

Here's a small grab if you don't know. I'll report it to Apple again.

I no longer have the text residue problem on either of two machines and it would have occurred in the 2+ days of uptime.

[MacRAND]

did a little more investigation...
if i open a terminal window and copy/paste the contents into a text doc, i can see that the terminal's functionality appears totally unchanged...it's just that i can't see inside the window at all...Yes, when I've had trouble with a window, scrolling, etc., if I can tap one pixel inside the window then do a COMMAND + A, then ALL the text is highlighted and can be COPY / PASTED into a Text Document.
Likewise, if have have text, code, whatever that I need to get into a box small text box, then using an open Text Document can to write it out, then move the finished text into the small box or cell, again by COPY / PASTE. I've seen this done when the Text Box "window" is so small you can't see but maybe a single character. I think I picked this up from working with tiny spreadsheet cells. Hidden text.

I share your pain on the reinstall, Jaguar did that to me...several times. Wish you well.

And I can tell that you have really benpatient ;)

[Stewie]

Well the Networking (SMB and AFP) is still ****e. Slow, crashes the finder, refuses to disconnect network drives.

Will probably be going back to Jaguar as I don't expect Apple to get Networking right in 10.3. :( Lets hope that they can get it right in 10.4.

You would think that something as simple at networking would be easy for Apple to get right. :confused:

[Stewie]

this thread is incredibly long and i've read much of it...

but does anybody know why there are so many "negatives" attached to this news report? very curious about this...perhaps macrumors team keeps track of IP's or something on this? is it for real?

v

Maybe because the 10.3.3 still sucks. At least as far as the networking fixes go. SMB and AFP shares still have many, many problems. At least for me anyway.

[evilsprung]

My fan is working fine- for awhile i was worried, since i have the 12" Rev A PB g4, but so far, so good.

I assume you had the fan problem before? If it's been fixed, are you saying your 12" fan is acting the way it did at 10.3.1? I'd really like to know, my fan is driving me crazy. Damn thing turns on when the drive is barely warm.

[Doctor Q]

You would think that something as simple at networking would be easy for Apple to get right. :confused:Unfortunately, it's not that simple to implement all the forms of networking we want. Otherwise, they would get it right with fewer attempts!

[wdlove]

I'm installing Mac OS X 10.3.3 currently on my Power Mac G4. So I will see how it goes. For some reason I'm getting the spinning beach ball.

Doctor Q do you know how to go about setting a network between a Power Mac & PowerBook that is using a wireless connection?

[sjk]

You would think that something as simple at networking would be easy for Apple to get right. :confused:Since when was it simple? Historically, you might be surprised how much smaller and simpler Unix was before TCP/IP network code was added.

[Tailwind]

I assume you had the fan problem before? ... I'd really like to know, my fan is driving me crazy. Damn thing turns on when the drive is barely warm.

If you've got a PowerBook fan problem, try this fix - Reset the PMU (Power Management Unit).

Reset PMU - PowerBook G4 (12-inch), PowerBook G4 (12-inch DVI), PowerBook G4 (15-inch FW 800), PowerBook G4 (17-inch) and PowerBook G4 (17-inch 1.33GHz) Check Kbase article for other models.

1. If the computer is on, turn it off.
2. Reset the power manager by simultaneously pressing and then releasing Shift-Control-Option-power on the keyboard. Do not press the fn (Function) key while using this combination of keystrokes.
3. Wait 5 seconds.
4. Press the power button to restart the computer.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449

After some updates, PMU settings get scrambled and PB fans run more than they should. This cleans them up.

[Doctor Q]

Doctor Q do you know how to go about setting a network between a Power Mac & PowerBook that is using a wireless connection?I've set up a few networks, but there's no reason to address your question to me specifically when there are 29,999 other forum members here waiting to help too! You can PM me if you want personal service, but it'll probably be more efficient to tell all of us what kind equipment you have so anyone here can help.

[Renko31]

Hi

Upgraded to X.3.3. OK for first day, then I've had a weird interface crash (see attached image). It eventually locks the machine. Have reverted to 10.3, but problem persists (although hasn't crashed machine yet).

The only other software I've installed recently (and prior to X.3.3) was for my Epson R200 and Norton SystemWorks 3.0. Both seemed to work fien with X.3.2 and X.3.3.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks.

Renko

PB G4 867MHz 40GB HDD 640MB RAM

[TorbX]

1. I have the hardware icon in sys prefs. is there a way to set the CPU to auto, instead of just nap or not nap? if its not on nap, it runs constantly. (theres a tip for the ppl with the fan crzy PBs)

Hello

I'm on a norwegian verision of OS X. Could you please specify where this hardware icon is? Is it the light bulb?

(Gee, when I come to think of it, we have no norwegian word for "hardware"...!)

[Counterfit]

Hello

I'm on a norwegian verision of OS X. Could you please specify where this hardware icon is? Is it the light bulb?

(Gee, when I come to think of it, we have no norwegian word for "hardware"...!) The hardware preference pane is part of developer tools. The icon is an unlabeled G4 processor. It allows you to control certain aspects of the hardware. I.E. turning off one of the multiple processors, or changing the size/existence of the L2/L3 cache. Of course, you can't add anything that isn't there :(

[TorbX]

The hardware preference pane is part of developer tools. The icon is an unlabeled G4 processor. It allows you to control certain aspects of the hardware. I.E. turning off one of the multiple processors, or changing the size/existence of the L2/L3 cache. Of course, you can't add anything that isn't there :(

This sucks. This REALLY really sucks. I dont know whats up with Apple. "Lets make'em blow! ALL THE TIME! HAHAHA!!!"

This is really, really, really annoying, and I cannot put words on it how irritating this ****ty blowing is. I can hear the bones in my body crackle. I have a funny vain in my forehead now. And my face is red and sweaty.

[seraphnyc]

Since Apple seems to be releasing the new ATI drivers (unavailable at ATI website) maybe it would be helpful to send a bug report to Apple. Hopefully if they see the problem is occurring with more than one person, they'll do something about it. Otherwise, keep me posted if you find a fix.

Well the good news is that VLC does play DVD's just fine in 10.3.3 but it is the most annoying thing in the world to do being that you don't have actual DVD controls (at least int he version of VLC I have tried). But nonetheless it does play them fine and in fact sharper than in the previous version of the DVD player (in my experience).

It is very clear that it is a problem stemming from the updated DVD Player application and it interaction with the New ATI drivers. I have sent an email off to apple concerning this and have pointed them to this forum. I do hope this is fixed soon.

In the interim I have found that if you install the DVD Player from the Panther discs (going back a version) that it works just fine.

There goes my report on the DVD player issue.. either go back one version from the Panther discs or use VLC or some other media player that will play video_ts folders. Now I am back to raid, pillage, plunder and other wise pilfer my weasley black guts out.

[zync]

The hardware preference pane is part of developer tools. The icon is an unlabeled G4 processor. It allows you to control certain aspects of the hardware. I.E. turning off one of the multiple processors, or changing the size/existence of the L2/L3 cache. Of course, you can't add anything that isn't there :(

You know whats weird....the Chud tools don't work at all on my PowerBook....if I set a setting it removes it!

[Gaffa Bug]

Well the good news is that VLC does play DVD's just fine in 10.3.3 but it is the most annoying thing in the world to do being that you don't have actual DVD controls (at least int he version of VLC I have tried). But nonetheless it does play them fine and in fact sharper than in the previous version of the DVD player (in my experience).

It is very clear that it is a problem stemming from the updated DVD Player application and it interaction with the New ATI drivers. I have sent an email off to apple concerning this and have pointed them to this forum. I do hope this is fixed soon.

In the interim I have found that if you install the DVD Player from the Panther discs (going back a version) that it works just fine.

Thanks for the info. Is there any way to replace DVD Player 4.0 with an older version (without going back to 10.3.2)? Before I did the .3 upgrade, I copied the DVD Player app from 10.3.2 on a CD... then after the problem in 10.3.3, I deleted DVD 4.0 and tried to replace it with the older version, but it didn't work. -It still was version 4.0. Most peculiar. Anyway, if I did an archive install of 10.3, wouldn't it still NOT work?

[thejazzman10]

i have a wierd story....i was downlading it, then when i was almost done, there was a kernal panic... i thought to myself" well great. now i have to do this again, so i rebooted, fired up software update, and it wasnt there, so i mouse on over to about this mac and it says 10.3.3 (it hadn't even finished downloading!!) then 5 minutes later, another panic, and now everything is fine!!
....wierd

[realityisterror]

jazzman: you sure have a wierd way of spelling weird. no offense, but try this in safari: edit -> spelling -> check spelling as you type. word style underlines in input boxes...

all: i had a weird thing happen too. i was downloading and the dock froze up. i always try to quit it via activity monitor and hope it'll restart. it does restart, but it's not showing. i would usually try to restart as that's the only way (logging out won't work) but i only had 15MB left so about 10 min. i waited and waited and thought maybe i could pause installing but keep the downloaded file, but i decided to just install it. i wonder if it was related to the update. i had a good feeling, and nothing happened in the end. but wierd or weird depending on your preferences.

reality

[zync]

jazzman: you sure have a wierd way of spelling weird. no offense, but try this in safari: edit -> spelling -> check spelling as you type. word style underlines in input boxes...

all: i had a weird thing happen too. i was downloading and the dock froze up. i always try to quit it via activity monitor and hope it'll restart. it does restart, but it's not showing. i would usually try to restart as that's the only way (logging out won't work) but i only had 15MB left so about 10 min. i waited and waited and thought maybe i could pause installing but keep the downloaded file, but i decided to just install it. i wonder if it was related to the update. i had a good feeling, and nothing happened in the end. but wierd or weird depending on your preferences.

reality

This is OT I guess but I think I've probably spelled weird as wierd before, actually I probably haven't...but in his defense he's at least following english rules...i is supposed to supersede e unless they both follow a c....like tied and ceiling....weird is just well, weird....

[WM.]

Is there any way to replace DVD Player 4.0 with an older version (without going back to 10.3.2)? Before I did the .3 upgrade, I copied the DVD Player app from 10.3.2 on a CD... then after the problem in 10.3.3, I deleted DVD 4.0 and tried to replace it with the older version, but it didn't work. -It still was version 4.0.
Actually, it did work. DVD Player 4.0 was introduced with Panther, and neither 10.3.2 nor 10.3.3 changed the version number. So, most likely, you do have the 10.3.2 version now (which I would stick with).

The only way to know for sure, though, is to see if you're still having the same problems. We shouldn't just assume that the version number means you are or aren't. :)

HTH
WM

[Gaffa Bug]

Actually, it did work. DVD Player 4.0 was introduced with Panther, and neither 10.3.2 nor 10.3.3 changed the version number. So, most likely, you do have the 10.3.2 version now (which I would stick with).

The only way to know for sure, though, is to see if you're still having the same problems. We shouldn't just assume that the version number means you are or aren't. :)

HTH
WM
Thanks for your help WM.

[evilsprung]

after installing the .3 patch, when i ran the disk utility there always this msg of
Determining correct file permissions.
We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util. New permissions are 33261
The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume


Is this normal?? i've ran the repair for like million times, and each time it shows this msg. The computer seems a bit unstable too.

Yeah same here. Does anyone know why the permissions would change to a new set?

[sjk]

See the Repair perms... shades of rebuild desktop (http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/archive/macosx-admin/2004-March/036125.html) thread on the maxosx-admin list archive for recent discussion and answers to questions about Repair Disk Permissions.

[Tailwind]

There are now two fixes for excess PB fan blowing after a major update like 10.3.3. In addition to resetting the PMU (see previous post). There is no harm in trying both, though the system clock will need to be reset.

MacFixIt offers this:

http://www.macfixit.com/index.php?date=2004-03-22

Resetting PRAM slows fan to regular speed

We previously reported issues with excessive fan noise after applying the Mac OS X 10.3.3 update, namely constant running of the fan even during inactive, apparently low-heat periods.

MacFixIt reader Koyo Yuki was able to resume "normal" fan operation by resetting his PowerBook's PRAM:

"My PowerBook G4 (Titanium/667MHz) had the excessive fan activity at full speed after updating to 10.3.3, which is involved with excessive heat on the PowerBook. The problem was completely resolved by resetting PRAM in my case, though I can't tell if the heat (processor) and fan control is improved yet."

Resetting PRAM can be accomplished by shutting down the computer, turning it back on and immediately pressing the Command-Option-P-R keys as described in Knowledge Base article #2238.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238

[Lucky736]

Graphics in the OS are alot smotther. Like they were in 10.3.2, lots less choppiness. That said though, the ONLY game I have loaded on my Powerbook 867 15" with 1 gig of RAM is Halo. Now whenever you hold the button to move and try to aim it sputters and seems to be very choppy, slow at time, and even unstable almost. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Hopefully it's an issue with the game and not the update. Everything else seems a hair quicker though, and quartz extreme seems to work better again. My 0.02


Mike

OVERALL A GOOD UPGRADE, MY POWERBOOK SHOULDN'T BE AN EXPENSIVE PS2 ANYWAY

AHHHHH ATI fix the Video Drivers!

[grafikat]

My emac 800mb and G5 seem happy as clams :)

[nbevan]

With all the glowing reviews I must be doing something wrong; however...

SMB with my Win2K server had been sort of flaky for me before (especially when waking from sleep) but it did work. I could click 'Connect...' in Finder under the Network browser, it would prompt me for username and password (which it would never save to the keychain even if I clicked the box), and I'd be connected. Now I go through that same sequence, same username and password, and I get:

The alias "<servername>" could not be opened, because the original item could not be found.

My server is listed right there in the finder ... how could it not be found?

If I do Go/Connect to Server, I type in smb://10.0.0.39, then enter my username and password, and get:

The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in "smb://10.0.0.39" could not be read or written. (Error code -36).

Again, something must be wrong in my settings or my methods, but at this point it's hard not to say that I'm worse off SMB-wise with 10.3.3 than I was with 10.3.2. At this point, I'm dead in the water.
---
I have exactly the same symptoms, but only with my login (other people could log in to the server from my machine). It seems to be related to an expired password, as when the administrator turned off password expiry I could log in OK.

[jsw]

...That said though, the ONLY game I have loaded on my Powerbook 867 15" with 1 gig of RAM is Halo. Now whenever you hold the button to move and try to aim it sputters and seems to be very choppy, slow at time, and even unstable almost. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Hopefully it's an issue with the game and not the update.
...
AHHHHH ATI fix the Video Drivers!

Yeah, same here. I thought Halo looked good, but I only jumped into it for a second and didn't do anything. It's definitely messed up on my system as well.

Oh well, back to work and/or WCIII! Halo can wait...