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jrcce37a
Feb 16, 2009, 07:42 AM
I'm trying to break my husbands's passcoode to confirm an affair. Can someone please help me?!?
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 07:45 AM
:eek:
Plug his phone into his computer, open iTunes and restore it from backup. It should bypass the code while retaining all emails and SMS messages.
Have you considered just talking to him about it?
paduck
Feb 16, 2009, 07:46 AM
I'm trying to break my husbands's passcoode to confirm an affair. Can someone please help me?!?
Sounds like you have bigger problems. Just get him show you the phone. What do you think you will find? Incriminating SMS messages or e-mail?
You could sit there long enough for 9,999 tries...
rburly
Feb 16, 2009, 07:49 AM
Hire a private investigstor.
But, seriously, talk to him first. If he doesn't want to admit it, try my first piece of advice.
ppc750fx
Feb 16, 2009, 07:54 AM
I'm trying to break my husbands's passcoode to confirm an affair. Can someone please help me?!?
Think about what you're asking:
You're asking us to help you violate his privacy and his trust to confirm your suspicions that he's violated your trust.
The very fact that you're asking this reflects poorly on you whether or not he is cheating. If he is, you've still violated his trust and privacy (and, depending on where you live, the law). If he's not, you'll have violated his trust and privacy all for naught.
I'd recommend you try talking with him; because the way I see it you've already got some pretty serious trust issues in your relationship.
Gix1k
Feb 16, 2009, 07:58 AM
Believe me....you dont want to know. I installed a keylogger on my ex's PC when I suspected her. What I read still haunts me. Been 4 years. STILL!
Cravendale
Feb 16, 2009, 08:02 AM
Think about what you're asking:
You're asking us to help you violate his privacy and his trust to confirm your suspicions that he's violated your trust.
The very fact that you're asking this reflects poorly on you whether or not he is cheating. If he is, you've still violated his trust and privacy (and, depending on where you live, the law). If he's not, you'll have violated his trust and privacy all for naught.
I'd recommend you try talking with him; because the way I see it you've already got some pretty serious trust issues in your relationship.
Theres a place on earth where its actually illegal to look through someones text messages?
Me and my girlfriend are moving there...
eRondeau
Feb 16, 2009, 08:12 AM
If you did break his passcode and hack-in to checked his private emails but found nothing, would that suddenly make your marriage perfect? I think not. Would you be honest and tell him what you did but you were wrong? I think not. Is there any chance that you two would ever again trust each other like a husband and wife should? I think not. At this point your marriage is over either way. Get out, get on, good luck.
ppc750fx
Feb 16, 2009, 08:13 AM
Theres a place on earth where its actually illegal to look through someones text messages?
Depending on the scenario, yes.
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 08:20 AM
If you did break his passcode and hack-in to checked his private emails but found nothing, would that suddenly make your marriage perfect? I think not. Would you be honest and tell him what you did but you were wrong? I think not. Is there any chance that you two would ever again trust each other like a husband and wife should? I think not. At this point your marriage is over either way. Get out, get on, good luck.
+1
Once trust is broken, things are never the same.
kas23
Feb 16, 2009, 08:23 AM
Think about what you're asking:
You're asking us to help you violate his privacy and his trust to confirm your suspicions that he's violated your trust.
The very fact that you're asking this reflects poorly on you whether or not he is cheating. If he is, you've still violated his trust and privacy (and, depending on where you live, the law). If he's not, you'll have violated his trust and privacy all for naught.
I'd recommend you try talking with him; because the way I see it you've already got some pretty serious trust issues in your relationship.
Hey Dr Phil, thanks for pointing out the obvious, but somehow I don't think she came to MacRumors (of all places) looking for a life lesson and lecture on morals and values. Let her make her own mistakes, she's not a 3 year old. Besides, it looks like she has bigger problems on her hand.
I predict 3 pages by tomorrow with this one...
I'm trying to break my husbands's passcoode to confirm an affair. Can someone please help me?!?
Is it because he's on his iPhone 24/7? If so, then he's guilty like me. I'm having an affair with my iPhone too. The wife is very jealous.
ppc750fx
Feb 16, 2009, 08:29 AM
Hey Dr Phil, thanks for pointing out the obvious, but somehow I don't think she came to MacRumors (of all places) looking for a life lesson and lecture on morals and values.
You're right. She came here asking how to break into a device that wasn't hers to read someone else's correspondence without his permission.
Also, you seem angry. Have you tried my new anger management tapes?
Love,
Dr. Phil
eRondeau
Feb 16, 2009, 08:34 AM
Depending on the scenario, yes.
I'm not a lawyer but -- from a law enforcement point of view, the iPhone in question would be considered shared marital property as long as it was purchased by either/both of them. (If it is his work phone, bought and paid-for by his employer, things would be different. See below.) But within a marriage, if something is "his" then it's automatically "theirs". Installing a security lock on the iPhone and not allowing the other partner access is no different than installing a security lock on their shared house and not allowing her access. It is her property as much as his and she has every right to access it as she sees fit. However none of the above is considered "criminal", so nobody could be charged and nobody could go to jail. It's all "civil" and it'll be great fodder for the divorce lawyers next week.
A more interesting variation occurs if the iPhone was given to him by his employer for the intent of conducting business on behalf of the employer. If this is the case, she might do well to notify his boss that she believes his work phone is being used for personal calls and emails (ie- whoring around) and the boss might just want to audit his use of it and read his emails. Of course this will just get him fired which will substantially reduce his ability to pay alimony, so the O.P. would do well to think seriously before pursuing this means to an end.
teleromeo
Feb 16, 2009, 08:38 AM
She won't find anything.
At this very moment all men that are having an affair and reading macrumors regulary are deleting all their compromising messages.
Gix1k
Feb 16, 2009, 08:39 AM
Reason I love "Lockdown". :D
ppc750fx
Feb 16, 2009, 08:41 AM
A more interesting variation occurs if the iPhone was given to him by his employer for the intent of conducting business on behalf of the employer. If this is the case, she might do well to notify his boss that she believes his work phone is being used for personal calls and emails (ie- whoring around) and the boss might just want to audit his use of it and read his emails. Of course this will just get him fired which will substantially reduce his ability to pay alimony, so the O.P. would do well to think seriously before pursuing this means to an end.
That's closer to the scenario which I was picturing.
If someone were to break into my phone and read my e-mail, they would have gained illicit access to information that my employer considers a trade secret, and they could well take legal action against me (and/or the person who gained access.)
It's probably legal (although IANAL either) if it's a personal device -- but if it's the property of his employer things can get a lot murkier.
Ninja Guidan
Feb 16, 2009, 08:46 AM
I'm trying to break my husbands's passcoode to confirm an affair. Can someone please help me?!?
Are you sure it's an affair or some harmless flirting? On another note, did you try your ATM PIN or your home alarm PIN?? :D
yellier35
Feb 16, 2009, 08:48 AM
I'm trying to break my husbands's passcoode to confirm an affair. Can someone please help me?!?
seriously who would share their life on here like that? I think, someone might have found a free phone and is trying to break in...
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 08:51 AM
Are you sure it's an affair or some harmless flirting? On another note, did you try your ATM PIN or your home alarm PIN?? :D
If the ATM or home alarm PIN works, he's not cheating. He'd have to be a fool to use something his wife could guess to protect his infidelity.
benflick
Feb 16, 2009, 08:59 AM
If I was cheating on my spouse, I would probably delete my texts/calls/voicemails. So, even if you do break into your husband's iPhone, the texts/calls/voicemails will most likely be deleted.
Just my $0.02
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 09:03 AM
If I was cheating on my spouse, I would probably delete my texts/calls/voicemails. So, even if you do break into your husband's iPhone, the texts/calls/voicemails will most likely be deleted.
Just my $0.02
So if she gets in and there's no call logs then that should be a pretty good sign, since it's either all or none. SMS is a different story as deleting one conversation is easy. Same with voicemails.
benflick
Feb 16, 2009, 09:07 AM
So if she gets in and there's no call logs then that should be a pretty good sign, since it's either all or none. SMS is a different story as deleting one conversation is easy. Same with voicemails.
So breaking in to his iPhone is altogether pointless, unless he (husband) is dumb.
Ninja Guidan
Feb 16, 2009, 09:15 AM
So breaking in to his iPhone is altogether pointless, unless he (husband) is dumb.
I'm sure he thinks since it's locked, he doesn't need to delete his texts. But wouldn't it be funny if she's on here asking how to break in to his phone and that dude reads macrumors too??? Who's the dummy then?
hwojtek
Feb 16, 2009, 09:17 AM
So if she gets in and there's no call logs then that should be a pretty good sign.
Yeah, whatever she finds (or does not find), it will be a 100% proof she was right.
And if there will be nothing more than typical text messages, it's going to be a genuine proof he's hiding behind a complicated code that pretends to be only regular text messages. Try finding letters i, l, o, v, e, y, o, u and then crack the scheme of disguising them in texts.
Seriously, does the OP lack communication skills in such a big way she can not make a regular talk to her husband? Bizarre.
Igantius
Feb 16, 2009, 09:21 AM
re: comments about the husband would surely delete incriminating evidence, I'm not so sure. Can't say whether this is anything like the situation in the States, but in the UK there was a news article a month or two ago about husbands cheating online, which reported that an awful lot of people were getting caught by their partner, when the later read their texts etc. And of course there are those people who, though attached, will state that they are single on Facebook...
That said, all we actually know about the OP is that s/he has requested help in trying to hack another's person's iPhone.
*deleted* LOL
Best laugh of the day (although I'm easily amused) *tips hat*
paduck
Feb 16, 2009, 09:29 AM
This does remind me of the post a few years back about the "friend" who had died and this guy wanted access to his computer without the password. Then, subsequently, it turns out that it was his son who committed suicide. Not sure if that was the case, but someone wanted into that computer...
I guess it is a combination of that and the iPhone "bug" that randomly mails inappropriate pictures to people on the contact list...
Given that it is this person's first post here, I suspect, as others have mentioned, that they probably have acquired an iPhone and just want to get access to it.
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 09:31 AM
Well I give her points for originality then. :)
jrcce37a
Feb 16, 2009, 09:34 AM
I wouldn't be trying to be devious if I had money to spend on a PI to follow him. There is a pre-nup involved and my husband keeps me on lockdown with all finances. I am trying to do this without spending money..he monitors all money I spend. Yes..this sounds crazy, but I will be without anything for me and my son unless I have proof of an affair..and the pre-nup will be null. I just want to read e-mails, etc..so I feel I have a case to even go to an attorney with.
TSX
Feb 16, 2009, 09:35 AM
How do we know that the OP is who they say they are? They could have found/stole an iPhone and are just looking for a way passed the passcode.
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 09:41 AM
I wouldn't be trying to be devious if I had money to spend on a PI to follow him. There is a pre-nup involved and my husband keeps me on lockdown with all finances. I am trying to do this without spending money..he monitors all money I spend. Yes..this sounds crazy, but I will be without anything for me and my son unless I have proof of an affair..and the pre-nup will be null. I just want to read e-mails, etc..so I feel I have a case to even go to an attorney with.
Sounds like a pretty lousy situation to be in. I hope you find what you're looking for.
How do we know that the OP is who they say they are? They could have found/stole an iPhone and are just looking for a way passed the passcode.
This has already been contemplated.
jrcce37a
Feb 16, 2009, 09:42 AM
Yeah that's right..i'm a suburban housewife who steals frickin iphones..please.
benflick
Feb 16, 2009, 09:48 AM
Yeah that's right..i'm a suburban housewife who steals frickin iphones..please.
How do we know you're even a suburban housewife?
Flhusky
Feb 16, 2009, 09:52 AM
Darn it not 3 pages YET!...
But since i just deleted all my <blank> errr never mind. :p
But yes, there are multiple threads about passcode 'unlocking' because;
I forgot my passcode help me
I found a phone and want to return it
My cousins uncle mail-mans baby setters apt managers mother in law died and we err they need to get in her iPhone
mroogle and google can back that up, and there are some funny stories too.
Some companies require a passcode/lock for accessing their exchange server. This could be the situation. In this case its more then likely greater than 4 characters in length.
OR
He set a system code and its 4 characters in length.
From a snooping point,
a) Audit the bill, AT&T will provide a very detailed history of what happens on your acct.
eg # called, when, how long
also tells you the sms count and which way (incoming/outgoing) BUT doesn't list the contents of the msg (Prob take a court order to get that). But this should help indicate whats happening sms wise.
a1) of course you have to have access to the bill or the pin code to do this online.
b) Social Engineer them, Mention you heard about a cool app and would like to see how it works, this works well IF you just saw an iPhone ad on TV while setting together.
c) Ask to use the phone while driving somewhere, say something like "I need to call Mary & Jeff to make sure they are still meeting use at 7pm" (make sure you 'forgot' your phone the whole time or just 'found it' while digging in your purse) you get the general idea.
ok enough of this stuff lets see 3 pages now!
Ninja Guidan
Feb 16, 2009, 09:52 AM
Yeah that's right..i'm a suburban housewife who steals frickin iphones..please.
What about his computer? Password on that? If he uses Mobileme, you can see the same emails that are on the phone on the computer. It won't help with text messages though. I'm assuming you get half his $%#$ if he's cheating?
yellier35
Feb 16, 2009, 09:59 AM
I wouldn't be trying to be devious if I had money to spend on a PI to follow him. There is a pre-nup involved and my husband keeps me on lockdown with all finances. I am trying to do this without spending money..he monitors all money I spend. Yes..this sounds crazy, but I will be without anything for me and my son unless I have proof of an affair..and the pre-nup will be null. I just want to read e-mails, etc..so I feel I have a case to even go to an attorney with.
So, He commited adultery and you want to commit a crime. What are you going to tell the judge, I posted on a public forum and found a way to break into my hubbies phone and found these emails.
madofrain
Feb 16, 2009, 10:05 AM
Ok I'm a deeply distrustful person by nature. I've been with my partner now for eleven years and I've only just in the last two really been able to rest easy. *insert shame*
Not everyone has the the self esteem to allow for the assumption of monogamy to really be enough. It's sad, but it's not a perfect world..so ho hum.If you really have to invade his privacy you don't need the passcode...
Iphone pin code security is there to prevent call usage if the device is stolen.. You can easily access SMS, call logs, photos etc by just plugging the device into a mac and using something like this:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32815
The pincode will be rendered effectively useless.
Really though I hope you do try talking it through with him, sms, email, essentially any written word is always open to interpretation, you may misconstrue something perfectly innocent.Once you've admitted to invading his privacy, which you'll have to do in order to confront him, the argument will be just as much about that as anything else.
Good luck mate.
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 10:09 AM
Really all she would have to say is that she guessed the code. Of course if it was some random number that had nothing to do with anything she would know he could probably call her bluff.
lilmitchmitch
Feb 16, 2009, 10:17 AM
Ok I'm a deeply distrustful person by nature.
I'm the same way. I've only been with my girlfriend for about a year and a half and there is always something on my mind. I just simply can't trust anyone and I probably won't ever. To a certain extent you could say I trust people, but not in the way that I can just tell people that I trust them. A lot of times you give people trust and it is abused.
Either way, if you happen to get through the password, what you find isn't going to be pleasing either way. Like another person said, you don't want to find what you think you're going to find. If you're so sure that he has done this, then just confront him and don't let him give you any ****. I've gone through texts on my gf's phone just looking and found that some guy that she sorta had a thing with before me said some stuff. I still can't get over it, especially that she didn't tell me about it. Good luck to you.
And if for some reason this person is just faking it all, then who cares. If he/she just wants the damn phone, let them have it. Obviously they need it more than someone else if they are so desperate to get some information to have a phone. And most likely they won't be able to pay the monthly fee ;)
Gix1k
Feb 16, 2009, 10:21 AM
I wouldn't be trying to be devious if I had money to spend on a PI to follow him. There is a pre-nup involved and my husband keeps me on lockdown with all finances. I am trying to do this without spending money..he monitors all money I spend. Yes..this sounds crazy, but I will be without anything for me and my son unless I have proof of an affair..and the pre-nup will be null. I just want to read e-mails, etc..so I feel I have a case to even go to an attorney with.
Does he spend any time on your home PC or check email from home? Listen, install a keylogger. Within one day you'll have the password to everything he logs into. I recon'd this for several weeks gathering data before I went "ape shet". PM me, I have just what you need. Hell with the phone. All you can do is read that and piss yourself off. You get on the PC, you can screenprint, etc. Tangible data.
I hate men that trap women. I want to punch his face in already!
rburly
Feb 16, 2009, 10:24 AM
I wouldn't be trying to be devious if I had money to spend on a PI to follow him. There is a pre-nup involved and my husband keeps me on lockdown with all finances. I am trying to do this without spending money..he monitors all money I spend. Yes..this sounds crazy, but I will be without anything for me and my son unless I have proof of an affair..and the pre-nup will be null. I just want to read e-mails, etc..so I feel I have a case to even go to an attorney with.
Obviously you don't live in Florida.
You could do what my ex-wife's slimy lawyer said they used to do here. He hired a PI and they caught the husband in a hotel room (or wherever) knock on the door and take pictures. If there's that much money involved, an attorney would take it for the money after the divorce.
kas23
Feb 16, 2009, 10:33 AM
Seriously, does the OP lack communication skills in such a big way she can not make a regular talk to her husband? Bizarre.
I don't think she is lacking communication skills. She is likely in a very complex situation and we know zip about it. Sitting down with your spouse and asking them, or probing them, about infidelity is not exactly an easy task. It's really a doubled-edged sword. She's likely going to get hurt any way you look at it. There really isn't a painless way to go about this.
So, He commited adultery and you want to commit a crime. What are you going to tell the judge, I posted on a public forum and found a way to break into my hubbies phone and found these emails.
Did I read that right? You think it is "criminal" to read a spouses texts/e-mail? It's on shaky moral grounds, but it certainly isn't a crime.
nanofrog
Feb 16, 2009, 10:36 AM
I wouldn't be trying to be devious if I had money to spend on a PI to follow him. There is a pre-nup involved and my husband keeps me on lockdown with all finances. I am trying to do this without spending money..he monitors all money I spend. Yes..this sounds crazy, but I will be without anything for me and my son unless I have proof of an affair..and the pre-nup will be null. I just want to read e-mails, etc..so I feel I have a case to even go to an attorney with.
Talk to your friends and in particular, your family. If you're on good terms, they may be willing to help with hiring a PI. If this is possible, and the PI turns up something, they would then be more likely to help further with a divorce attorney.
Forgive me for this next part, but it might be worth asking, especially to yourself. Something to contemplate carefully, anyway.
Do you still love your husband, or are you looking for a way out of the marriage, and looking for a way to obtain alimony + child support?
Is it insecurity with yourself?
If you still love your husband, take the necessary steps to solve your issues, or it will eventually fall apart.
If you want out, get out. Damn the prenup. Please don't use your child as a reason to stay together if it needs to end. Worse for everyone IMO. :(
lftrghtparadigm
Feb 16, 2009, 10:41 AM
If a woman ever tried to break into my phone and read any of my private information, the relationship would be over right then and there. Period.
That is an unbelievable violation of privacy, regardless of your "suspicions". You have zero right to do that.
Adultery is also not a crime. If it occurs, it is the fault of both partners in the relationship. One person does not feel fulfilled or satisfied, the other doesn't recognize the problem.
kas23
Feb 16, 2009, 10:42 AM
You can also see if he has any one of these apps (by going into "applications" section of iTunes on his/your computer):
http://appshopper.com/utilities/hide-a-caller-pro
http://appshopper.com/productivity/hide-a-caller
Just owning these is pretty suspicious.
kas23
Feb 16, 2009, 10:46 AM
Darn it not 3 pages YET!...
...
ok enough of this stuff lets see 3 pages now!
Yeah, I thought it would be 3 pages by tomorrow. I'm wrong there. It'll probably be 6 pages by tomorrow.
lilmitchmitch
Feb 16, 2009, 10:51 AM
If a woman ever tried to break into my phone and read any of my private information, the relationship would be over right then and there. Period.
You use the word "woman"...I'm not sure how old you are (could be using it because you on the older side and your interest is older women), but it seems like you're using that in kind of a vulgar way. Like saying, "woman, make me a sandwich." More on topic though, even if you were in a deep relationship with them, why would you need to have private information that you'd be keeping from her? Other than work purposes, I'm not sure what you'd need to keep from someone that you love or want to love.
skye12
Feb 16, 2009, 10:52 AM
give the guy a break...if you don't trust him its over anyway.
eRondeau
Feb 16, 2009, 10:58 AM
Speaking figuratively -- I think everyone in a relationship should be entitled to their own "Private Place", like a dresser or filing cabinet drawer. They should be able to put whatever they want inside without fear of their partner snooping, or (even worse) obsessing that they cannot look inside. But the important thing is, there's no lock on it -- so both have to trust each other to respect their privacy. The first one to put a lock on their drawer obviously feels guilty that they have something to hide, and from that stems mistrust.
Wow, that is probably the deepest and most profound thing I've ever posted. It's a wonder that I'm single. :confused:
xploit
Feb 16, 2009, 11:04 AM
Well I think that if your married and not working in a job that deals with classified materials, then you really should not have a passcode which your wife/husband doesn't know about. I believe that our culture of text messages and instant communication and social sites put a huge starin on marriges to begin with. Partners now only need to click away when they are having a tough time or getting bored. Times are completely different and the temptations that were once more time consuming and apparent can now be shielded by screen names and passwords. If I was to marry I would make it a point to not only delete any accounts with social networking sites but also to have transparency in regards to email accounts and all passwords. I do not fault this woman for having this need to breech the passcode on her husbands iphone, if I suspected my wife and she had a passcode that I wasn't aware of it would be the first place I would go as well. Good luck to you!
X-
markgamber
Feb 16, 2009, 11:04 AM
Yeah, I thought it would be 3 pages by tomorrow. I'm wrong there. It'll probably be 6 pages by tomorrow.
At least 6. There's no shortage of pompous, self-righteous garbage on this site.
No1451
Feb 16, 2009, 11:12 AM
You use the word "woman"...I'm not sure how old you are (could be using it because you on the older side and your interest is older women), but it seems like you're using that in kind of a vulgar way. Like saying, "woman, make me a sandwich." More on topic though, even if you were in a deep relationship with them, why would you need to have private information that you'd be keeping from her? Other than work purposes, I'm not sure what you'd need to keep from someone that you love or want to love.
Or he is using it in the literal way? Meaning a female and not being derogatory at all(cause yeah, you're wrong).
At any rate, OP do as was stated on the first page, with the restore, it should do what you need. And ignore all the "it's wrong" posts, if its not a company phone then its locked because he has something to hide, and if it was just to keep others off it he would have let you know the code.
obilix
Feb 16, 2009, 11:14 AM
I haven't seen this mentioned yet...
If you think there something going on and he's txt'ing someone else, why not just look at the bill and see the phone numbers? (I know ATT shows the phone numbers for txt messages).
Heck, look at the amount of time he's talking to that number (lunch time dates?).
If there is a many txts going to the same number, try a reverse look up to see if the number belongs to.
Only then show your husband the bill and ask him why he's yapping so much this person.
Otherwise, go for a walk and try to calm down...
my few pennies...
uiop.
Feb 16, 2009, 11:21 AM
Yeah I think I'm unsubscribing to this thread in...3...2...1...
Hudzilla
Feb 16, 2009, 11:34 AM
This thread is so funny it's untrue.
yellier35
Feb 16, 2009, 11:48 AM
I don't think she is lacking communication skills. She is likely in a very complex situation and we know zip about it. Sitting down with your spouse and asking them, or probing them, about infidelity is not exactly an easy task. It's really a doubled-edged sword. She's likely going to get hurt any way you look at it. There really isn't a painless way to go about this.
Did I read that right? You think it is "criminal" to read a spouses texts/e-mail? It's on shaky moral grounds, but it certainly isn't a crime.
no, I mean its criminal to break into someones property. In this case she wants to hack into the phone. That is most definiately a crime.
iKungFu
Feb 16, 2009, 11:53 AM
How're you going to feel if he's planning a surprise party for you? :(
ski2moro
Feb 16, 2009, 11:55 AM
My observations
1. If the thread read "I Want to Check on My Cheating Wife/Girlfriend", we would have an entirely different set of posts. You would be all sympathetic to the poor guy.
2. Whoever thinks that a PI can help or (this one made me laugh) "The PI will wait for his money until the divorce is settled", you need to stop watching so much TV.
3. You guys need to stop using big words that you don't understand like "My Rights" and "Crime" and "Trust".
Here is my Dr. Phil moment to keep the thread going.
In a relationship, whether it's a high school romance or a long term marriage, Trust is the key. Without trust, there is no relationship. All of you who say you don't trust or can't trust your partner - you are simply in the wrong relationship. Get out.
To the OP, if he is keeping you from seeing your friends, watching your every move, controlling your $$$, calling you to check up on you, and claiming that he only does this because he loves you, you need to get some help. Now!
That's not love, it's controlling behavior and it cannot be solved by you alone.
Google "Misogynist"
Why would you raise your kid to believe that this sick, twisted way of life is normal? For money? For love?
And you think cracking his password is going to help?
End of Dr. Phil segment.
Katuls
Feb 16, 2009, 12:00 PM
This isn't a Utopian World that we're living in guys.. (and girls). Trust and morals go out the door when you're thinking someone is cheating on you. I'd go with the benefit of the doubt on this one.
I've been cheated on and it sucks. How did I find out she was cheating on me? I got into her Iphone.
Give her an Effing Break. It's easy to bypass the passcode, OP. plug it into a computer and restore. That easy. Depending on what type of computer you have, you may be able to gain access just by connecting it.
carichard
Feb 16, 2009, 12:01 PM
It's not even remotely illegal for a wife (or a friend or anyone else for that matter) to read the messages and listen to the voicemail on that guy's iPhone. It's illegal for someone to steal the physical phone or take information gleaned from the phone and use it without that person's permission. In my opinion it's sleazy and unethical, but not illegal.
Now, as to her signing a pre-nup agreement, that's just ridiculous. I've been divorced twice and I gladly split our assets 50/50 even though I was the sole source of income when we were married. Really, people, how can you agree to marry someone who isn't willing to share everything with you?
OK, this is WAY off subject...I'm done. :)
kas23
Feb 16, 2009, 12:16 PM
In this case she wants to hack into the phone. That is most definiately a crime.
We can surely agree to disagree, but looking through a spouse's cellphone is definitely not on par with rape, murder, carjacking, armed robbery, Ponzi schemes, kidnapping, grand larceny, etc.... (all crimes btw). Criminals are sent to jail, usually for a very long time. You also suggesting she should do jail time for looking into her husband's call/text history?
I've been cheated on and it sucks. How did I find out she was cheating on me? I got into her Iphone.
According to some people on here, you are a criminal for doing that! lol
2. Whoever thinks that a PI can help or (this one made me laugh) "The PI will wait for his money until the divorce is settled", you need to stop watching so much TV.
It's also interesting that some people are all up in arms about how she'd be violating his privacy by reading his texts and another segment of people telling her to hire Magnum. Talk about extremes here...
Dunkan21
Feb 16, 2009, 12:23 PM
iBlacklist FTW :cool:
Katuls
Feb 16, 2009, 12:38 PM
According to some people on here, you are a criminal for doing that! lol
It's also interesting that some people are all up in arms about how she'd be violating his privacy by reading his texts and another segment of people telling her to hire Magnum. Talk about extremes here...
The naivety in this forum related to relationships baffles me :confused: Does everyone think their significant other isn't cheating on them? We're in recession too, lol. And that doesn't help relationships. In fact the rates for adultery/cheating are much higher in recession. Just let the OP do what she needs to do ffs.
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 12:44 PM
We can surely agree to disagree, but looking through a spouse's cellphone is definitely not on par with rape, murder, carjacking, armed robbery, Ponzi schemes, kidnapping, grand larceny, etc.... (all crimes btw). Criminals are sent to jail, usually for a very long time. You also suggesting she should do jail time for looking into her husband's call/text history?
So you're saying that somebody who does something against the law and doesn't spend time in jail isn't a criminal? Weird.
I think you may have the words "crime" and "criminal" mixed up with "felony" and "felon".
The naivety in this forum related to relationships baffles me :confused: Does everyone think their significant other isn't cheating on them? We're in recession too, lol. And that doesn't help relationships. In fact the rates for adultery/cheating are much higher in recession. Just let the OP do what she needs to do ffs.
+1
The scope of cheating differs from person to person but the frequency of infidelity, especially in non-marriage relationships, is depressingly high. I've gotten out of relationships (yes that's plural) in the past because of dishonesty and infidelity and I know a good amount of people who have been through the same thing.
tbrinkma
Feb 16, 2009, 12:45 PM
Regardless of whether there is any cheating going on in this relationship, it's pretty much doomed.
She *suspects* him of cheating, and on that basis is willing to violate his trust of her by spying on him. Why? So she can have evidence *before* she talks to a divorce lawyer because otherwise she gets nothing. The implication here is that if she *doesn't* find evidence of cheating, she'll continue to suffer along in a marriage she doesn't want to be in for the sake of money.
Regardless of whether she finds anything, she will have proven to *him* that he shouldn't trust *her*. In fact, the very fact that she's airing her grievances to random strangers *instead* of him, demonstrates that the trust is gone from the relationship.
Night Spring
Feb 16, 2009, 12:46 PM
Am I the only one thinking, "Her husband parts with his iphone long enough for her to hack into it?"
lostprophet894
Feb 16, 2009, 12:52 PM
Am I the only one thinking, "Her husband parts with his iphone long enough for her to hack into it?"
That is a strange concept. The only time the phone isn't on me is when I'm showering or sleeping...
zap2
Feb 16, 2009, 01:15 PM
You use the word "woman"...I'm not sure how old you are (could be using it because you on the older side and your interest is older women), but it seems like you're using that in kind of a vulgar way. Like saying, "woman, make me a sandwich."
:rolleyes: He COULD but since you yourself said you don't know, and in context its 100% correct and not offensive, why both?
Or he is using it in the literal way? Meaning a female and not being derogatory at all(cause yeah, you're wrong).
Thank you...the person used the word "women" because thats the type of person he gets into romantic relationship.
RTiii320
Feb 16, 2009, 01:27 PM
Am I the only one thinking, "Her husband parts with his iphone long enough for her to hack into it?"
Exactly.. If he were cheating he would NOT leave his phone around, locked or unlocked, if your doing something like that and she hasn't caught you yet you are obviously a little more careful then to leave the phone laying around.
OR
..... its a phone you found/stole and you just made an interesting story up hoping to get a "quick" way to access the phone.
All you can do is stick it on itunes, if you don't have the passcode then your S.O.L... You can't get in, don't try pressing every combo you can think of your just going to wear down the buttons:p
jrcce37a
Feb 16, 2009, 01:31 PM
omg!! I only wanted a simple answer or some techi info people. I appreciate all the dr. phil talk and I even appreciate everyone doubting my intentions and calling me a "criminal".. However, the story is extremely complex. I have a controlling husband who monitors me, a 5 year old, and all I wanted was some insight into his emails,texts to help me make a hard and a very "no turning back" decision in my life. I appreciate everyone's opinion. I'm going to install the keylogger.
Roessnakhan
Feb 16, 2009, 01:33 PM
Why don't you just loom around him until he enters the code into his phone? Or say you need to borrow his phone and watch as he types it in.
arkitect
Feb 16, 2009, 01:41 PM
…I have a controlling husband who monitors me, a 5 year old, and all I wanted was some insight into his emails…
Well, since you are only 5 years old you might be in need of monitoring. ;) :D
Why don't you just loom around him until he enters the code into his phone?
Looming around him might make him a tad uneasy… however, if she just lurked he might not suspect anything.
:o
SteveMobs
Feb 16, 2009, 01:49 PM
Well, since you are only 5 years old you might be in need of monitoring. ;) :D
I was thinking the same thing when I read that! Haha.
Bummer though, for the OP. Just ask to see the phone maybe?
jrcce37a
Feb 16, 2009, 01:53 PM
Maybe you should monitor what you read before you start writing.
arkitect
Feb 16, 2009, 01:55 PM
Maybe you should monitor what you read before you start writing.
Absolutely. A quick proof read spares a lot of unintentional humour.
;)
SteveMobs
Feb 16, 2009, 01:56 PM
Maybe you should monitor what you read before you start writing.
Yeah I read what you wrote about the controlling part but other than that you've posted like four times, effectively turning this thread into one big ***** show with the same advice over and over.
Ok, he's controlling, but you could just ask and talk.
And you should also monitor what you write before posting, because according to your last post, you're five years old. A little young to be married, no?
Gix1k
Feb 16, 2009, 02:00 PM
Maybe you should monitor what you read before you start writing.
I told you what to do....you're not listening.
tony2979
Feb 16, 2009, 02:33 PM
Are you sure that this isn't so much your husband as it is a complete stranger, and that you aren't so much trying to find incriminating emails as you are looking to get through the pass code to wipe the phone and sell it or use it yourself?
Just sayin......
It seems odd that if he is "that" controlling, that he would be leaving his phone laying around for long periods of time giving you time to install software.
specify
Feb 16, 2009, 02:33 PM
At least 6. There's no shortage of pompous, self-righteous garbage on this site.
Amen.
Good luck on breaking in.
kas23
Feb 16, 2009, 03:00 PM
So you're saying that somebody who does something against the law and doesn't spend time in jail isn't a criminal? Weird.
I honestly have no idea how you drew that conclusion, however...
think you may have the words "crime" and "criminal" mixed up with "felony" and "felon".
No. I'm not a lawyer, but I always thought that the legal definition of a "crime" is the breaking of a law that results in a misdemeanor or felony. A person who thus commits a felony or a misdemeanor is a "criminal," and both of these classifications may result in jail time. Wrongdoings that are NOT "crimes" include speeding, parking in handicap spot without tag, running a red light, etc. The people who commit these acts are certainly not "criminal" in nature (yet they are certainly breaking the law and are irresponsible). So, by no stretch of the imagination is looking through a spouse's cellphone "criminal" since legally (and morally), it is not even close to a misdemeanor or felony.
kas23
Feb 16, 2009, 03:03 PM
And you should also monitor what you write before posting, because according to your last post, you're five years old. A little young to be married, no?
Awesome!
skwij
Feb 16, 2009, 03:29 PM
Ok, he's controlling, but you could just ask and talk.
You've obviously never been with a controlling partner. Asking is NOT an option, in some cases. Asking, in some cases, is tantamount to begging for a beating, abuse (verbal or otherwise) or "punishment" for even daring to QUESTION the "almighty man".
The phone being "left out" is just another symptom of this man's ego. Little Wifey wouldn't dream of even touching the phone, let alone trying anything? Little Wifey is supposed to be cowed and brainwashed.
C'mon, surely the posters here in this thread aren't really that naïve??
OP, good luck with everything. Including finding the guts to leave even without "proof". Pre-nup or not, you need to leave. Period. If not for your own sake, then for your child's. Money shouldn't matter, being cut off from friends/family shouldn't matter. There are agencies that deal with your situation all the time. GET OUT.
YuriVoorhak
Feb 16, 2009, 03:48 PM
The detective skills on display here are simply astounding. Be it spousal abuse or software licensing, let no one say that MacRumors isn't the wackiest bunch of vigilantes/white knights on the interbutts. I humbly submit this thread as proof.
:rolleyes:
manhattanboy
Feb 16, 2009, 04:09 PM
Theres a place on earth where its actually illegal to look through someones text messages?
Me and my girlfriend are moving there...
LOL!!!!
madofrain
Feb 16, 2009, 04:36 PM
Yar, lets just try & imagine that we can pass for human beings and this person does actually need some help.. Not that any lardy forum troll has ever found themselves vulnerable and genuinely in need of a helping hand.
The cynicism in this thread frankly makes me gag.
Honestly if your still reading, can I just say the internet is really the last place anyone should look for comfort or help. It plays out like a perpetual indictment of the human condition.
If you've got family, friends, go to them for advice.
Blakew23
Feb 16, 2009, 05:08 PM
Sounds like you have bigger problems. Just get him show you the phone. What do you think you will find? Incriminating SMS messages or e-mail?
You could sit there long enough for 9,999 tries...
It's actually 10,000 tries. you have to count 0000 :p
mkrishnan
Feb 16, 2009, 05:10 PM
Enough. :rolleyes:
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