Explain the logic

[mach@8tr]

I have been trying to get a straight answer as to why people prefer the Apple over top of the other products available on the market today, which might I add are far more reliable. This is a public forum and I have a right to post my opinions as they are not physically harming or threatening to anyone. I have read your terms and policies and find no mention of not being allowed to voice personal opinion. P.S. Ever get an error type -9859 when trying to print using the button bar in AppleWorks, Office or any other OS X program that utilizes the button bar feature. That's my latest giggle. Lets make an OS and not allow access screw up the coding for accessing the print framework. Brilliant, yet another use of beta testing at the customers expense.

[edesignuk]

...don't expect to get many replys...:rolleyes:

[awulf]

The answere is simple! Mac's ARE easier to use and are less frustrating. I use a PC nearly every day and they love to crash if they are running Windoze. Other reasons:
*Faster
*Cheaper In the Long run Here is the evidence (http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=4795)
*Good quallity
*The list goes on...

I once had a 486/66 it was so full of trouble :mad: I used my Mac IIsi or even my Mac Classic sometimes. I no longer posses a PC :cool:

P.S. Ever get an error type -9859 when trying to print using the button bar in AppleWorks, Office or any other OS X program that utilizes the button bar feature.

No I never got an error before printing that way
I tried to print of something to file in Win2K but the computer kept restarting:p

[McFreggle]

Hey Mach@8tr,

Why so rude? I'm sure you could have a serious discussion here about the pros and the cons of a mac, if you wouldn't put it that agressive.

Now, I myself use Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 98, Mac OS 9, Mac OS X ànd Debian GNU/Linux, and I have been using PC's since MS-DOS 2.11, I saw System 7, and I have worked with BeOS, so I think I can compare a bit...

And to be honest... all systems have their Pros and their Cons! Off course they have, otherwise they wouldn't be around anymore (well, MS-DOS isn't, but yah...).

I think Windows 2000 is the best Operating System Microsoft ever made, and I work with it a lot, and I can do an awfull lot of stuff with it and - don't shoot me - I wouldn't wanna miss it, but I also like Mac OS X a lot, and the technology, the ease of use, the interface, the total user experience is sooo much better...
So I wouldn't want to miss it either.

A word to all heavy Mac-addicts here: don't be too hard on Windows without knowing what you're talking about. Windows 2000 is no longer the buggy OS Windows 95 used to be.
But also a word to you, Mach@8r... don't be so hard on Macs... they are really cool, and if you're not in things that specifically require Windows, it's a hell of a platform...

Now, let's smoke some herb and make peace ;) (and start another PDA thread!)

k.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by McFreggle
Why so rude? I'm sure you could have a serious discussion here about the pros and the cons of a mac, if you wouldn't put it that agressive.
k.
Exactly, we are all open to discussion but not when you post in such an agressive manor.

[loicl]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
I have been trying to get a straight answer as to why people prefer the Apple over top of the other products available on the market today, which might I add are far more reliable. This is a public forum and I have a right to post my opinions as they are not physically harming or threatening to anyone. I have read your terms and policies and find no mention of not being allowed to voice personal opinion. P.S. Ever get an error type -9859 when trying to print using the button bar in AppleWorks, Office or any other OS X program that utilizes the button bar feature. That's my latest giggle. Lets make an OS and not allow access screw up the coding for accessing the print framework. Brilliant, yet another use of beta testing at the customers expense.

You should read th e design of everyday things by Donald Norman for all you re question about design (because it s design behind you re question).


Ever get an error type -9859 ...

no.


That's my latest giggle. Lets make an OS and not allow access screw up the coding for accessing the print framework. Brilliant, yet another use of beta testing at the customers expense.
HO you re one of the developper of CUPS, no ?
you re kidding in fact it s the same technology under windows with other name to hide it.

What 's the answer under a PC for such a problem, in fact is there any error recognition ? (it s a real question).

bye Loic

[Beej]

Originally posted by loicl
You should read th e design of everyday things by Donald Norman for all you re question about design (because it s design behind you re question). What a great book... it will change the way you look at everything...

Formaly 'POET' - pschycology of everyday things but it kept getting put in the poetry section :)

[britboy]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
Ever get an error type -9859


No. What have you done to your computer then, if you're getting that message? Is your printer actually supported under OS X?

[Backtothemac]

Yea, you want to know I will tell you. From a carry over of your other brilliant thread, I am a Windows 2000 Lan / Wan Administrator. I am a Microsoft Certified Professional, and Windows 2000 Server certified. You know what. I am so glad that Microsoft is out there because if not, I would be out of a job. You see of the 400 Macs and 200 PC's on our network, the macs account for 5% of the problems, and yet are run 24/7/365 where as the PC's are only run from 8 to 5. X is Unix. No .dll files to become corrupt. A far more intelligent file system. A far better printing system. So many more time powerful than any version of Winblows.

Now does PC hardware have more features that I would like to see come to the Mac, hell yea. But you know what. Even if the PC was 5 GHZ, with 200 GB hard drive, and 48X CDRW with a 4X DVD-R with an 18 inch LCD, and 4 gigs of memory. I would still prefer a Dual 1GHZ PowerMac. Why. Simple. Windoze.

Oh, by the way, do you have a site that you go to that you are a fan of something there? If so, please post so I can join your forum and sound as ignorant as you.

Sorry, Arn.

[eyelikeart]

Haven't u guys learned by now not to entertain these types of posts?! :rolleyes:

The best thing u can do is to answer the boy's question, and leave him alone. If u start calling him out on his rudeness & possibly start a flamewar, u know what's going to happen. Or u could just ignore him all together if it bothers u that much.

We've seen quite a few of these PeeCee Zealots coming through here in the past 6 months, and where has every single one of them ended up? ;)

[McFreggle]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
We've seen quite a few of these PeeCee Zealots coming through here in the past 6 months, and where has every single one of them ended up? ;)

Dunno... www.windowsrumors.com or so?

k.

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
Haven't u guys learned by now not to entertain these types of posts?! :rolleyes:

The best thing u can do is to answer the boy's question, and leave him alone. If u start calling him out on his rudeness & possibly start a flamewar, u know what's going to happen. Or u could just ignore him all together if it bothers u that much.

We've seen quite a few of these PeeCee Zealots coming through here in the past 6 months, and where has every single one of them ended up? ;)

I agree, and I appologize to Arn, and everyone else. I just don't understand how being an idiot can be so entertaining. I guess I will have to find a Windoze site, and go and taunt their users say "Macs rule, Macs rule" in order to figure out the humor behind it.

Oh, well, I said I never wanted to go back to high school, but it looks like I will have too.

[spuncan]

This is my typical response to any WinBlowze user that "dis" us. CTRL+ALT+L any keybaord shortcut designed to do one thing and that only being to lock the keyboard is F'ed up. And actually Macs last much longer then X86's cuz I have a 4y.o. computer siting right here that I use daily bout 3-5 hours a day. now I know a few people that have older ones but most are just antiques that are fun to play w/ like comodores or PC Jr.s . Most people upgrade ther winblowze computers every other year if not sooner. So Macs obviouly last longer. Now as for that error it doesn't exist in X for sure since X doesn't have errors like that it has the very unfrequent kernal panic because its true unix so it has unix errors. Classic may have that and I admit 9 is buggy but much better then WinBlowze.

[8thDegreeSavage]

Mach@8tr your a trolling flamebag....why even bother.


You sound like some prissy little design bird who likes to rub his privates while reading the lastest copy of "OSX for Nummies"



sorry admin..i wanted to say that before this was deleted.:D

[mach@8tr]

My knowledge of the Mac OS is most superior to that of anyone that has yet to post. I will be frank OS Xlooks like a million dolla's, but when it comes to it it just doesn't work. The codpy/paste function between OS 9 and OSX have much to be desired ...like nt having to relaunch the finder to get the damn edit button deselected and return to normal use. As for the print button error, that is known to apple as an actual issue. I would like to thank all of you who replied I have reached my conclusion. Use linux, windows users are lame, mac users are "special" and linux users jknow what they are doing
!!!!!

[blackpeter]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
My knowledge of the Mac OS is most superior to that of anyone that has yet to post. I will be frank OS Xlooks like a million dolla's, but when it comes to it it just doesn't work.

Oh, I get it.

At first I thought that you were trying to engage us Mac faithful in a serious discussion, but now I see you're just talking to hear yourself speak. I was all excited for a little back and forth debate about OS X, and now I realize that you're not here for any productive reason.

Somehow you're getting through life with a weak brain and a loose grasp on the written word. That, in itself, is way more amazing than any OS X Print Centre issues. I bet my OS crashes a lot less than your small mind.

[mach@8tr]

I have many doubts as to the stability of OS X especially when in a multi-user environment using NFS mounts. If you would like to discuss some things about OS X tfaz. I would be more then happy to reply. Frustration and fatique cause people to get irritable and I needed a vent. If I wanted to hear myself speak I would start talking no typing LOL. OS X is aeestheetically great but there are lots of things to iron out. Tfaz blah blah blah

[McFreggle]

Originally posted by tfaz1


Oh, I get it.

At first I thought that you were trying to engage us Mac faithful in a serious discussion, but now I see you're just talking to hear yourself speak. I was all excited for a little back and forth debate about OS X, and now I realize that you're not here for any productive reason.

Somehow you're getting through life with a weak brain and a loose grasp on the written word. That, in itself, is way more amazing than any OS X Print Centre issues. I bet my OS crashes a lot less than your small mind.

Now there there...

Let's not start flaming here...

Mach@8r, if you want to have a serious discussion about the Pros and the Cons of Windows/Mac, let's have it, here and now. If you want to get everybody flaming, and just **** on OS X, stay away. The Supersite for Windows (http://www.winsupersite.com) is probably a gr8 place for you.

Kind regards,
k.

[mach@8tr]

Every release of OS X from 10.0 to 10.0.4 was a beta. Isn't it great that we got to beta test it and take the risk of losing all of our data. Think before you type tfaz, you are not "king ****"

[mach@8tr]

I think my problem was not having a bowl to smoke after Miccy (my iMac) went down last night. I almost lost 200mb of original work. I love macs, they so pretty. You should understand Mcfreggle every one must vent...somehow!!! it was 3am or else I would have went to the pub

[blackpeter]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
I think my problem was not having a bowl to smoke after Miccy (my iMac) went down last night. I almost lost 200mb of original work. I love macs, they so pretty. You should understand Mcfreggle every one must vent...somehow!!! it was 3am or else I would have went to the pub

Save it for your shrink. Your dependence on drugs and alcohol only underscores the string of endless frustration that is your life.

[McFreggle]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
I think my problem was not having a bowl to smoke after Miccy (my iMac) went down last night. I almost lost 200mb of original work. I love macs, they so pretty. You should understand Mcfreggle every one must vent...somehow!!! it was 3am or else I would have went to the pub

Okay, I understand completely... yes, you must vent, but does it has to be on a public forum? Misunderstandings can destroy so much...

I am the last person to say a Mac is perfect, and can't crash (hey, I'm sorry you lost so much date), but I also have allready had a lot of frustrations and troubles with my PC....

Hey, nobody's perfect. And certainly: no platform is perfect.

k.

[mach@8tr]

Yes tfaz I am completely dependant on reefer and booze. They are carrying through my pointless life. Listen buddy, I am going to get serious. I have accomplished more then you could imagine at my age and if I choose to smoke a joint I will. Trying to teach urself everything with a grade 11 education is trying. I must also add I dropped out of high school to promote my company. I may sound like a fool, but I am actually more of an exception. If you met me tfaz, you would laugh ur ass off. because u would then understand why I'm venting. I almost lost a years work because Miccy went down.

[blackpeter]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
I may sound like a fool, but I am actually more of an exception. If you met me tfaz, you would laugh ur ass off. because u would then understand why I'm venting. I almost lost a years work because Miccy went down. I almost lost 200mb of original work.

1. We agree on one thing. I would definitely laugh my ass off if I ever met someone like you.

2. If 200mb equals a year of your life, I would seriously consider throwing myself in front of a train.

[mach@8tr]

Convert 200mb into text and see what u have

[blackpeter]

So, Master Linux user... You've got 200mb of important data and you didn't back it up? Yeah, I see how that's the Mac's fault.

Idiot...

[mach@8tr]

You are the typical american. ignorant and concerned only in their own premise. Hey kinda like Bush. If I had means to back up I would. The only means I had was swapping the drive into my PC. You are a smartass little bitch tfaz and I'm sure that if I lived in Oakland I would own a mac because then I could get a real job and stop banging my head against the wall trying to run my own company.

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
Every release of OS X from 10.0 to 10.0.4 was a beta. Isn't it great that we got to beta test it and take the risk of losing all of our data. Think before you type tfaz, you are not "king ****"

Hey, at least Apple was upfront about it being a work in progress. Micro***** will release software to the public and then spend the next two years trying to make it secure. Now, you think you know more about X. Bring it. You still have not answered my point about Winblows have you. Can't wait to hear that one. Also, what kind of Mac you running X on a PowerMac 120?

[mach@8tr]

Anyone now how to delete jobs in the Printer Queue that are not visible,.....hmm how about fun fsck??

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
You are the typical american. ignorant and concerned only in their own premise. Hey kinda like Bush. If I had means to back up I would. The only means I had was swapping the drive into my PC. You are a smartass little bitch tfaz and I'm sure that if I lived in Oakland I would own a mac because then I could get a real job and stop banging my head against the wall trying to run my own company.

Dude, Grow up! For real. Do you have to such a child? Oh, and you want to have a talk about what you can do with your opinion of my county....

Pm me. We will do it there in private. I will spare you the embarassment.

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
Every release of OS X from 10.0 to 10.0.4 was a beta. Isn't it great that we got to beta test it and take the risk of losing all of our data. Think before you type tfaz, you are not "king ****"

You do know we're up 10.1.5 now, right?

I'll agree 10.0.x was buggy and slow, 10.1.x has improved things greatly, and Jaguar wil provide us with another huge increase in performance.

You guys need to chill with the insults.:rolleyes:

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
Anyone now how to delete jobs in the Printer Queue that are not visible,.....hmm how about fun fsck??

Anyone know how to resolve a conflict between two .dll's one in Office, and the other in say Photoshop? hmmm how is that for fun.

[mach@8tr]

Not hard uninstall and reinstall then update

[topicolo]

well... someone sounds SLIGHTLY bitter...

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by mach@8tr
Not hard uninstall and reinstall then update

Ah, but the uninstall will not complete it, so you are left having to spend and entire day reinstalling the OS, and all the updates. Meanwhile your Mac neighbor is busy finishing up that Ad for a client.

[eyelikeart]

ok guys...u all need to relax a bit here...

we're here to discuss rumors among other things...not bash each other...

and mach@8tr, u should honestly quit criticizing Americans in general...God knows we've been through enough in the past year to warrant ignorant comments like your's... :rolleyes: