View Full Version : Apple is dying!!!! Sell stock now!
7on
Mar 29, 2004, 10:20 PM
http://www.macobserver.com/appledeathknell/index.shtml
Thought this was a pretty good read.
HexMonkey
Mar 29, 2004, 10:37 PM
I saw this a while back. Rob Enderle certainly has more than his share of death knells.
I found this interesting though:
Our prized addition today is a Death Knell from Steve Jobs himself. We have an interview from 1995 (dated 4/20/1995) where Steve says that Apple has wasted the Mac legacy, and was (at that time) coasting. What we want to make perfectly clear is that while Steve Jobs said that Apple was doomed, this was before he came back to the company to fix the problems he laid out. There's another Death Knell from Mr. Jobs from another interview a couple of years later, but we will add that another time.
And then the quote Steve Jobs made:
What that cost them was the future. What they should have been doing was making reasonable profits and going for market share, which was what we always tried to do. Macintosh would have had a thirty- three percent market share right now, maybe even higher, maybe it would have even been Microsoft but we'll never know. Now its got a single digit market share and falling. There's no way to ever get that moment in time back. The Macintosh will die in another few years and its really sad. The problem is this: no one at Apple has a clue as to how to create the next Macintosh because no one running any part of Apple was there when the Macintosh was made--or any other product at Apple. They've just been living off that one thing now for over a decade and the last attempt was the Newton and you know what happened to that. It's kind of tragic, but as unemotionally as I can be, that's what's happening. Unless somebody pulls a rabbit out of a hat, companies tend to have long glide slopes because of the installed bases. But Apple is just gliding down this slope and they're loosing market share every year. Things start to spiral down once you get under a certain threshold. And when developers no longer write applications for your computer, that's when it really starts to fall apart.
Krizoitz
Mar 29, 2004, 11:24 PM
The day I hear that Apple ISN'T dying is when I worry
Sun Baked
Mar 29, 2004, 11:32 PM
The day I hear that Apple ISN'T dying is when I worryOf course Apple is deteriorating quick, that dumb long term vision Jobs has for Apple is killing the short term speculators because he's not catering to their greed by getting 15-100% revenue increases every year...
And paying down the debt, absolutely horrible for the buyers of distressed secured bonds -- that are looking to pick up the corpse of companies cheap.
Benjamin
Mar 30, 2004, 02:24 AM
ah yes... this list. and yep apple has been dying for a very long time. :p
Savage Henry
Mar 30, 2004, 03:09 AM
It's a little know fact that the origin of this rumour is from Nostradamus no less. In one of his final publications there is the following exceprt:
"Millenia seconda annos dommus Applata morto"
It then goes on to say
"Upgradus fith genus chipolatus three pointus nilus grande jokus stevus jobus"
With further references that
"Intelligensa superious et supremus commandus world est Robus Enderlus"
However, unbelievers of this text note a small footnote in the original scripts which prompts them to question the authenticity of the documents. Shortly before Nostradamus closes by qoting the lottery numbers for the next seven weeks, he remarks that this particular prediction has been sponsored by:
"Thus Windos Appreciatus Totali Societus"
or t.w.a.t.s for short.
:D
Doraemon
Mar 30, 2004, 06:40 AM
These never-ending Apple's dying threads remind me of this cartoon:
http://www.stuffthis.com/Images/1996%20Archive/022696.GIF
cc bcc
Mar 30, 2004, 07:12 AM
It's a little know fact that the origin of this rumour is from Nostradamus no less. In one of his final publications there is the following exceprt:
"Millenia seconda annos dommus Applata morto"
It then goes on to say
"Upgradus fith genus chipolatus three pointus nilus grande jokus stevus jobus"
With further references that
"Intelligensa superious et supremus commandus world est Robus Enderlus"
...
LOL!! :D
AhmedFaisal
Mar 30, 2004, 08:32 AM
... this is all such bullcrap. The only thing I could see bringing harm to Apple is Linux in the long run. Microsoft and Intel are both having trouble even though the short term speculators only see the profit-margins. Intel has a problem since Gigahertz is not working anymore and killing the sales on their only good CPU the Pentium M. The Itanic Titanic is equally crappy in sales and for the step to 64bit (for the Pentium line) and 90nm they have to use technologies that are not their own. (AMD and IBM respectively). Microsoft suffers from the fact that most sales still are on Windows 2000 licences and licence extensions by companies and besides stupid home users and a selected few companies, XP is avoided like the devil himself. Longhorn isn't on the horizon either with 2006 a long time away for others to catch up.
No the only one that could be trouble for Macs is Linux. However if I look at the sad kindergarden that is XFree86 and basic design flaws in KDE and Gnome (copy/paste between Apps is still and issue as is drag and drop, lack of uniformity when it comes to keyboard shortcuts and lack of uniform interface guidlines) I don't really see it coming. In fact I doubt that Gnome and KDE are going to be the future of Linux GUI, I recently had the joy to use Java Desktop and found that it does work quite nicely compared to Gnome and KDE.
Cheers,
Ahmed
Sweetfeld28
Apr 15, 2004, 07:21 PM
... this is all such bullcrap. The only thing I could see bringing harm to Apple is Linux in the long run. Microsoft and Intel are both having trouble even though the short term speculators only see the profit-margins. Intel has a problem since Gigahertz is not working anymore and killing the sales on their only good CPU the Pentium M. The Itanic Titanic is equally crappy in sales and for the step to 64bit (for the Pentium line) and 90nm they have to use technologies that are not their own. (AMD and IBM respectively). Microsoft suffers from the fact that most sales still are on Windows 2000 licences and licence extensions by companies and besides stupid home users and a selected few companies, XP is avoided like the devil himself. Longhorn isn't on the horizon either with 2006 a long time away for others to catch up.
No the only one that could be trouble for Macs is Linux. However if I look at the sad kindergarden that is XFree86 and basic design flaws in KDE and Gnome (copy/paste between Apps is still and issue as is drag and drop, lack of uniformity when it comes to keyboard shortcuts and lack of uniform interface guidlines) I don't really see it coming. In fact I doubt that Gnome and KDE are going to be the future of Linux GUI, I recently had the joy to use Java Desktop and found that it does work quite nicely compared to Gnome and KDE.
Cheers,
Ahmed
I also agree this is crap. Didn't Apple just declar themselves debt free? Now that they are going to be making huge profits, don't you think that they maybe around for awhile?
Skeeball236
Apr 16, 2004, 03:20 AM
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themadchemist
May 2, 2004, 05:27 PM
These never-ending Apple's dying threads remind me of this cartoon:
http://www.stuffthis.com/Images/1996%20Archive/022696.GIF
That's beautiful.
Mav451
May 2, 2004, 05:35 PM
Reminds me of when all the Intel freaks spread FUD that AMD was dying, even while the Opteron/FX was wiping the floor of the current pre-EE P4's and Xeons. Idiots.
This picture says it all:
http://chart.yahoo.com/c/1y/a/amd.gif
Freakk123
May 2, 2004, 09:01 PM
These never-ending Apple's dying threads remind me of this cartoon:
http://www.stuffthis.com/Images/1996%20Archive/022696.GIF
This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. And, its also brilliantly accurate! Thanks!
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