alien abductions in USA?

[Megaquad]

have you ever (or somebody you know) saw something strange in the sky?
my mother and her collegue saw UFO near the city i live 5 yrs ago.
there is one island in my country called 'Pag',UFO's are seen all the time over there,there are also some (rare but still..) cases of abduction and woman that lose their baby's during their pregnancy.
what about USA? i hear there are lots of abductions over there? is that true,have you heared of it?
in europe,mafia kidnaps people (no more aliens) for rich buyers of organs,there are few case of it in croatia but i hear from a friend who visits Belgium that situation is terrible,everyone is scared!

[krossfyter]

*krossfyter pops in some x-files theme music and sits back*

[Quark]

Are you saying that Apple or Steve is behind this?

What other possible connection could there be between this and the MacRumors forums?:rolleyes:

Quark

[big]

its BIG business, hiring all those aliens to extract your organs

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Quark
Are you saying that Apple or Steve is behind this?

What other possible connection could there be between this and the MacRumors forums?:rolleyes:

Quark



if its in the "community discussion" forum i dont think it has to be mac related. its like a general discussion area. may i be corrected if im wrong.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Quark
What other possible connection could there be between this and the MacRumors forums?:rolleyes:


hmm...considering this is the "Community Discussions" forum...maybe u could tell me what pissing in our beds has to do with Macs while u are at it... ;)

to answer the question, no I have never had an encounter nor known anyone who's had one either...

however I am a big believer in Extra Terrestrial life-forms...

[krossfyter]

quark check out the subtext underneath the community discussion button before you enter the site.... it says " random discussions about anything"


so this topic falls in accordance with exactly that.

[big]

my god! someone has abducted my post count! I only have just over 100 now! agggggggggg

oh, it was probably more like the mac mafia over aliens...though dukestreet's posts sure did skyrocket somehow here recently

[Mr. Anderson]

I can safely state that aliens had nothing to do with my post count.

D:D

[krossfyter]

my theory is that aliens are really demons (fallen angels). i do know that demons are interdimensional and able to disguise themselves or what not.

[big]

I think its avatar envy still,

oh say, what's going on with the contest? did the aliens make a decision?

[iwantanewmac]

Aliens are bad for your health
really

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac
Aliens are bad for your health
really



how you figure? and who said they were actually healthy?



dig it.

[big]

Sure They're healthy! if they can come all this way, they must have figured out a very nice insurance policy...

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by big
Sure They're healthy! if they can come all this way, they must have figured out a very nice insurance policy...



haha! good one. :D

[Megaquad]

thats why we weren't kidnapped! every member of mafia with style has Titanium. It is very embarassing to see someone with pc notebook,such people get shot at the beginning of their career!

as for aliens..well,there is an explanation,you see,the most powerfull humanoid species of this galaxy,so called Zamba's,their simbol was simillar to Apple,everyone is scared of them,so when they see an apple on computer,it scares the ***** out of them,so they dont abduct you because they dont wanna start intergalactic war (they are stupid arent they)

[eyelikeart]

so who here has been subject to an anal probe?? :D

[Mr. Anderson]

If this continues in this vein, *I'll* be shutting the thread down.....:D

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by big
its BIG business, hiring all those aliens to extract your organs
i am not joking,find someone from belgium or elsewhere on aim/icq and ask him,they'll tell you.
it is terrible that governments do nothing to stop this situation,USA is probably the biggest buyer of those organs

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by dukestreet
If this continues in this vein, *I'll* be shutting the thread down.....:D

he he he... :D

what was wrong with that? ;)

[big]

ok ok- honestly, when I was a kid I saw something really wierd. It looked like a big cigar with windws, flying around. no wings or anything.

it flew in a zig zag pattern for 5 minutes, then stopped, it looked like it saw me watching it, and it shot off...

true story.

I do live in huntsville, I think there's alot that goes on here people don't know about. infact I know there is, I've heard "True stories" from people that made it out of the military base here, plus we are on HIGH-TECH town! There's alot that happens here, i think it was all military

[britboy]

Originally posted by eyelikeart


what was wrong with that? ;)


If you need to ask, you're obviously too innocent to hear it ;)

[big]

quote:
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Originally posted by big
its BIG business, hiring all those aliens to extract your organs
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i am not joking,find someone from belgium or elsewhere on aim/icq and ask him,they'll tell you.
it is terrible that governments do nothing to stop this situation,USA is probably the biggest buyer of those organs

ummm, how about that urban legend here in the states about some guy at a party, they gave him roofies to pass out, left him in a tub of ice after extracting a kidney or something, and placed a note on his chest saying he had 30 mins to make it to a hospital.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter
my theory is that aliens are really demons (fallen angels). i do know that demons are interdimensional and able to disguise themselves or what not.
i dont think thats the case,cause they wouldnt look like 'grays' and perform surgical operations with hi-tech equipment

i dont know do i tell this on english so ill try explain it somehow :)
it is a board with letters,and something moves glass from letter to letter (dont do this at home,your life's gonna go upside down,you'll never be free again)
there are two theory's
1.demons are doing this
2.'players' of that,should i call it game unintentional cause the glass move with telekinesis because they believe that something will move the glass (that doesnt explain their ****ty/short life after that)

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by big
ok ok- honestly, when I was a kid I saw something really wierd. It looked like a big cigar with windws, flying around. no wings or anything.

it flew in a zig zag pattern for 5 minutes, then stopped, it looked like it saw me watching it, and it shot off...

true story.

I do live in huntsville, I think there's alot that goes on here people don't know about. infact I know there is, I've heard "True stories" from people that made it out of the military base here, plus we are on HIGH-TECH town! There's alot that happens here, i think it was all military
i wonder what is it like to live in a country with such mysterious secrets etc.
it is unbeliveable that they created such technology that would allow that kind of flying objects (you can buy 1m diameter flying object that uses ion thrusters or something for 1000$ so no wonder,i think its futurehorizons.net im not sure)

your cigar object ship is known as "mother-ship",i hate those selfish military bastards,i wanna fly in one ;)
or maybe,aliens are cooperating with military?:confused:
who knows..
they are very impressive,they keep the secret very well,it is unrelated but maybe the presidents dunno nothing about this? parallel government?

[big]

is english your natural language?

[Megaquad]

i remember a story of a woman who asked aliens (in 50's if i remember correctly when they abducted them,she was in ufo) from where they are,and they showed her a map
later,while she was back at earth she draw a map and showed it to astronoms,they didnt know nothing about that system,10-20 years later they discovered it and called it Zeta-reticuli
maybe aliens are giving technology to USA in exchange for allowing to abduct some people so they regain abbility to reproduce themselves

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by big
is english your natural language?
if you ask me,no it isn't
i apologize for bad english

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by Megaquad

i wonder what is it like to live in a country with such mysterious secrets etc.
it is unbeliveable that they created such technology that would allow that kind of flying objects (you can buy 1m diameter flying object that uses ion thrusters or something for 1000$ so no wonder,i think its futurehorizons.net im not sure)

Oh yeaahh... futurehorizons.net is a great source of information :rolleyes:

As for ET, I expect they exist but why the hell would they come here?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
so who here has been subject to an anal probe?? :D

I can think of more then a few beings that post here (or used to) that are in serious need of the above stated probe (as well as more then a few of the newbies). :eek: :eek: :D

As for aliens and their extradimensional correlation with 'fallen angels' or demons... What's the point of having slimy tenticles if you cannot use them??? :D (watch some Hentai sometime, and you will catch my meaning ;) ).

I don't see aliens visiting our planet, after all, with all the countless planets out there that can (and hopefully do) support life, why come to our little section of the galaxy?? Don't say that they are searching for intelligent life on this planet... I have been searching for that for a number of years, and have only found a handfull of other beings that qualify for that term (myself included as one of said intelligent entities, of course :D).

[big]

Zeta-reticuli

you mean Zeta-Rediculi, that's just silly. However, If we could travel to other world's, do you not think one of us would be sadistic enough to nab another alien (grounded and to stupid to catch us?)

I bet humans would do it in a heart beat! In fact, we already do it to all the other species here...

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by big


you mean Zeta-Rediculi, that's just silly. However, If we could travel to other world's, do you not think one of us would be sadistic enough to nab another alien (grounded and to stupid to catch us?)

I bet humans would do it in a heart beat! In fact, we already do it to all the other species here...
I didn't say that we could go to those worlds,i saw that woman on tv,she says she was in UFO at the time,so i presume it was near earth or somewhere..they just showed her picture from where they come from

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Megaquad

I didn't say that we could go to those worlds,i saw that woman on tv,she says she was in UFO at the time,so i presume it was near earth or somewhere..they just showed her picture from where they come from

And you believe the story??? Damn dude, while we are at it, I have a few hundred acre's of Everglade swampland to sell, want some??? :rolleyes:

[big]

where's the XMAC coming form? and when?

oh I was being Zeta-Rediculi about that post, again sarcasm is hard to express over open forums etc etc... and what if we could go (which is what I meant) do you not think some scientist will be so eager to get their hands on a specimen that they would kidnap one?

I think it's a professional ethics problem personally. Architect's and enbgineers have to study professional ethics practices, I say we lobby congress to create a law that will make aliens do the same.

[AlphaTech]

Hey big, what the F are "enbgineers"??? :p

[britboy]

Why is it that alien-abduction stories are almost exclusively all american? I reckon it's just your damn rednecks not staying off the hash again..... :rolleyes: :D

Hey, does anyone think W might be an alien? He's certaintly not of this world :p

[big]

Hey big, what the F are "enbgineers"???

that's top secret

[Megaquad]

look,i'll have to sneak into area 51 (and hide in a closet of course :D),ill get you a pic of little aliens they are studying in there

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Megaquad
look,i'll have to sneak into area 51 (and hide in a closet of course :D),ill get you a pic of little aliens they are studying in there

Who cares about the aliens, I want either the weapons or one of the ships... :D:D

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by big
where's the XMAC coming from? and when?
XMac is codename of Apple's top secret plan of next (r)evolution in macs,it should happen within next 10-20 years
there is documentation for:guidelines on new OS,the Mac OS X replacement layout,next hardware platform (holographic drives,new cpu sys etc. stuff like that) and generally,replacement for macs as we know it
oh please,dont believe that crap..i'm just fooling ya:p

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by britboy
Why is it that alien-abduction stories are almost exclusively all american? I reckon it's just your damn rednecks not staying off the hash again..... :rolleyes: :D

Hey, does anyone think W might be an alien? He's certaintly not of this world :p

Rednecks doing drugs??? Go on.... LOL!!

'You might be a redneck if your mobile home doesn't/can't move' :D

I think Clin'Ton was an alien, and he botched the job. :D

[iwantanewmac]

Originally posted by big
ok ok- honestly, when I was a kid I saw something really wierd. It looked like a big cigar with windws, flying around. no wings or anything.

it flew in a zig zag pattern for 5 minutes, then stopped, it looked like it saw me watching it, and it shot off...

true story.

I do live in huntsville, I think there's alot that goes on here people don't know about. infact I know there is, I've heard "True stories" from people that made it out of the military base here, plus we are on HIGH-TECH town! There's alot that happens here, i think it was all military



You saw a CIGAR flying around?
okaaaaaaay.......... hehe what are you on...
diesel fumes? :)

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by big
that's top secret

Tell me, then I will have to kill you... :D

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Who cares about the aliens, I want either the weapons or one of the ships... :D:D
to give You a weapons or ship? god help us.. i've been watching you closely,you are dangerous,thats why they dumped you out of the army :D

[britboy]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac


You saw a CIGAR flying around?
okaaaaaaay.......... hehe what are you on...
diesel fumes? :)


It was probably the latest way to smuggle cubans into the US....... :p

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Megaquad
to give You a weapons or ship? god help us.. i've been watching you closely,you are dangerous,thats why they dumped you out of the army :D

Yes, I am dangerous... :D... I was never in the army...

Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I will take over. Like I really want to have to admin THAT mess... :D

Would you prefer to have someone as dangerous as I am on your side, or fighting against you??? Hmmmmm??? heh heh heh heh

[King Cobra]

Alpha with his own spaceship? Why not? Alpha can use it as a flamethrower to attack other Earths that run on peecees!

I think the Lt. (KC) and eye get second grabs on it. :cool:

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac




You saw a CIGAR flying around?
okaaaaaaay.......... hehe what are you on...
diesel fumes? :)
you ignorant medieval-age ape!
my mother also saw UFO,are you saying that she is also on diesel fumes?
thousand's,if not millions other ppl saw strange objects in the sky,i just want to know what the F is going on!

[AlphaTech]

Have you thought to consider that these supposed space ships are in reality the next generation of military aircraft?? Think about it... Imagine seeing the stealth fighter for the first time in the middle of the night, with no artificial lighting around... For all we know, the government could be testing fighters, helicopters and such that are years away from full production right now. What better place to do so then in the middle of nowhere, or from an altitude where no one on the ground will be able to figure out what they are.

Everyone knows how the SR71 was viewed when it first came out. How much faster it went then anything at the time (still holds the speed record), and how radical the design was. They kept that a secret for many years.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years, new craft are hitting military service that display characteristics that current "UFO's" have.

[McFreggle]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
hmm...considering this is the "Community Discussions" forum...maybe u could tell me what pissing in our beds has to do with Macs while u are at it... ;)
Hey... I did my best to get the thread Mac-related by asking people who got a wet dream thinking of Macs ;)

k.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Have you thought to consider that these supposed space ships are in reality the next generation of military aircraft?? Think about it... Imagine seeing the stealth fighter for the first time in the middle of the night, with no artificial lighting around... For all we know, the government could be testing fighters, helicopters and such that are years away from full production right now. What better place to do so then in the middle of nowhere, or from an altitude where no one on the ground will be able to figure out what they are.

Everyone knows how the SR71 was viewed when it first came out. How much faster it went then anything at the time (still holds the speed record), and how radical the design was. They kept that a secret for many years.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years, new craft are hitting military service that display characteristics that current "UFO's" have.
i agree! but then..why the hell so called 'aliens' are abducting people into the same looking objects? blaah whatever..
and how the hell did they have those ufos in '50s? maybe they took it from aliens? or developed it on their own.. yeah but whatta hell are then abductions of people? ahhh..who cares i'm going to sleep and dream little iBooks and iPods..

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Yes, I am dangerous... :D... I was never in the army...

Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I will take over. Like I really want to have to admin THAT mess... :D

Would you prefer to have someone as dangerous as I am on your side, or fighting against you??? Hmmmmm??? heh heh heh heh
i am also dangerous,i am known to be a fighter for hr.rec.sf.startrek.binaries newsgroup,fighting with my Trekkie comrades,actually a great hero :D
i was promoted in captain Megaquad because of that.. :cool:
watch out,i have some shields and quantum torpedo launchers,you might wanna runaway but i'll catch you :D
kidding (dont flamethrower me pleasee,i can sing and dance for ya:D )

[eyelikeart]

what do u guys think of that new Mel Gibson movie "Signs?"

crop fields...very bizarre & amazing phenomenom... :D

[Royal Pineapple]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
what do u guys think of that new Mel Gibson movie "Signs?"

crop fields...very bizarre & amazing phenomenom... :D
a much better topic than your last one;)
i dunno about crop circles, i've seen college students walking arround in circles in the middle of as feild to imitate crop circles. so you can never be too sure which ones are real and which ones are false

[Royal Pineapple]

BTW
if aliens did ever visit Earth, we'd know it by their laughter:D

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Royal Pineapple
BTW
if aliens did ever visit Earth, we'd know it by their laughter:D

I think they would more likely be on safari (something along the lines of the Predator movies). What other reason could they have for visiting?? It's not for stimulating conversation... :D

[King Cobra]

Don't forget their scary voices and white masks!

"Whoaye? Iam Preaior!" :eek:

[britboy]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
what do u guys think of that new Mel Gibson movie "Signs?"


Looks like a decent movie from Gibson, for a change. Is it out already in the states?

I have absolutely no idea what causes them. It could be aliens, or moles on speed.....:rolleyes: The shapes seem rather odd though, for something that's supposed to fly through space.....

[Royal Pineapple]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


I think they would more likely be on safari (something along the lines of the Predator movies). What other reason could they have for visiting?? It's not for stimulating conversation... :D
i like that idea, i want to go on a safari. as for stimulating conversation, they could just come here and read the thread about pissing your bed

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad

i dont think thats the case,cause they wouldnt look like 'grays' and perform surgical operations with hi-tech equipment

i dont know do i tell this on english so ill try explain it somehow :)
it is a board with letters,and something moves glass from letter to letter (dont do this at home,your life's gonna go upside down,you'll never be free again)
there are two theory's
1.demons are doing this
2.'players' of that,should i call it game unintentional cause the glass move with telekinesis because they believe that something will move the glass (that doesnt explain their ****ty/short life after that)



i have no idea what you are getting at with the glass thing. is that an anology or what is that?


as for them not being demons because they are grey.... well demons are able to look however the hell they want.... and whos to say that demons look a certian way? the surgical operation thing with high tech equipment argument that you gave against the demon theory is easily OBLITERATED by the idea that if they are demons ... they can make people think they are trying to be aliens to hide thier real intentions of turning people away from the real truth. so they get all tehnical to hide thier hidden agenda. so the surgical thing is just a cover up man. after all demons are angels and have super human powers .


dig it.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Don't forget their scary voices and white masks!

"Whoaye? Iam Preaior!" :eek:


este vato

[big]

what happens when someone's computer finally turns up somekind of alien jargon after running SETI for 4 million hours? Think if it were a Mac...That would be great publicity!

[Royal Pineapple]

Originally posted by krossfyter




i have no idea what you are getting at with the glass thing. is that an anology or what is that?

i think he's talking about a ouiji board, you know the game whrer two people put their hands on the little moving thing and swear thet they arnt moving it

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Royal Pineapple

i think he's talking about a ouiji board, you know the game whrer two people put their hands on the little moving thing and swear thet they arnt moving it


that was my initial guess but that last remark about telekenisis etc. kinda throw me a curve ball even more.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Royal Pineapple

a much better topic than your last one;)

hmm...didn't know that anal probing was such a sensitive subject... :eek: :D

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by eyelikeart


hmm...didn't know that anal probing was such a sensitive subject... :eek: :D



anal vomiting is easily more sensitve then just anal probing man!:D

[britboy]

Originally posted by krossfyter

that was my initial guess but that last remark about telekenisis etc. kinda throw me a curve ball even more.


I always thought ouiji boards were used without touching the glass piece. Is it different in the states? Anyway, the telekinesis would make sense, if that was the case.

It's not something I'd ever like to try out though. Talk about summoning the devil......:rolleyes:

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by krossfyter
anal vomiting is easily more sensitve then just anal probing man!:D

wow...now that was disgusting! :eek: :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by britboy



I always thought ouiji boards were used without touching the glass piece. Is it different in the states? Anyway, the telekinesis would make sense, if that was the case.

It's not something I'd ever like to try out though. Talk about summoning the devil......:rolleyes:


from my knowledge on the subject ...they do touch the glass or that wood device with the glass part in the middle and hold it over the board. ive heard of it moving on its own without the initial help of the human but i never thought about it being telekenesis from the human. i was always under the impression it was demons moving that thing or whatever the hell. ive never done it but i was around, in the same room, when my friends were doing it.
its no joke man. thing started moving on its own after they let go of it. i freaked THEHELLOUT and ran outside and chuged down a whole 40 oz.

first time i got drunk.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by eyelikeart


wow...now that was disgusting! :eek: :cool:

hell yeah ...its suppose to be.


the name of the very first rock band that i was in was .... ANALVOMIT.


not pretty. niether was the music. so i guess it fit.:D

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by krossfyter


first time i got drunk.

now why wasn't this story told in my drunkeness thread?! :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by eyelikeart


now why wasn't this story told in my drunkeness thread?! :cool:


you had a thread dealing with that? i never new of it. sorry. perhaps it was during the time i was realy busy...i dont know. hmmm.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Royal Pineapple

i like that idea, i want to go on a safari. as for stimulating conversation, they could just come here and read the thread about pissing your bed

Well, if they did that, they would probably just crack the planet and be done with it.... :D

[krossfyter]

why am i thinking about drunk aliens now?!?!:D :confused:

[King Cobra]

Wow, fyter. You seem to be on a roll. You posted 7 times in about an hour and a half here and now you are thinking about drunk aliens. You must be a happy camper right now! :cool:

BTW, I think there are beings that control your dreams and thoughts. I know that a while there was this guy called Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis, but he can't explain everything. By saying that supernatural beings (maybe aliens) control your thoughts you are covered. :D

Yes, I know, este vato. ¿Qué es?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by krossfyter
este vato

English translation please Bubba.... :D

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Wow, fyter. You seem to be on a roll. You posted 7 times in about an hour and a half here and now you are thinking about drunk aliens. You must be a happy camper right now! :cool:

BTW, I think there are beings that control your dreams and thoughts. I know that a while there was this guy called Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis, but he can't explain everything. By saying that supernatural beings (maybe aliens) control your thoughts you are covered. :D

Yes, I know, este vato. ¿Qué es?



freud said that? dude.

cant get them drunk aliens outa my mind king cobra.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


English translation please Bubba.... :D




english translation of "este vato"


---- this dude.



nothing big ....just sounds better in spanish.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by krossfyter
english translation of "este vato"
---- this dude.
nothing big ....just sounds better in spanish.

Ok... Bubba... :D

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by krossfyter

english translation of "este vato"

---- this dude.

nothing big ....just sounds better in spanish.

Wow. I took over three years of Spanish and I never came around to this thread.

I guess people want others to learn how to speak formally in other languages. But I think tomorrow I will use "vato" in class.

But formallity doesn't always work, since I know three bad words in spanish! :D

Now if I could just learn to say !!!! I would be on easy street. :cool:

[britboy]

Originally posted by King Cobra


But formallity doesn't always work, since I know three bad words in spanish! :D

Now if I could just learn to say !!!! I would be on easy street. :cool:


So.....what words would you like to know in spanish? :D

[krossfyter]

seriously ...you all dont here "vato" that much where you all are from?

[King Cobra]

Nope. Vato is hardly used in my classroom. In fact I don't remember hearing it in the Krell lighting store a town over, when two sales people were groovin' en Español.

It's probably not that common here in the northeast end.

[eyelikeart]

as long as no one starts having flames shoot out of their @ss...we have nothing to worry about :D

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
as long as no one starts having flames shoot out of their @ss...we have nothing to worry about :D

LMFAO!!!! Ahhhh, classic South Park... :D I think I have a song with a clip about that... :D

I tossed it up onto my homepage inside the 'tunes' folder here http://homepage.mac.com/asgoldberg/FileSharing1.html

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Nope. Vato is hardly used in my classroom. In fact I don't remember hearing it in the Krell lighting store a town over, when two sales people were groovin' en Español.

It's probably not that common here in the northeast end. \

probably because it was that proper spanish. thats not my cup o joe. i speak that twisted mangled tex mex slang spanish.


te voy adar un changlaso.:)

[Royal Pineapple]

Originally posted by britboy



I always thought ouiji boards were used without touching the glass piece. Is it different in the states? Anyway, the telekinesis would make sense, if that was the case.

It's not something I'd ever like to try out though. Talk about summoning the devil......:rolleyes:
if you dont touch it, than how does it move? the whole "phenomenon" of the ouiji board is that someone is moveing the peice.:D

[Quark]

Most of the UFOs that are reported are not anything really unusual, they are just not defineable from the witnesses vantage point.

The other tidbit of information that I can add is that most of the actual UFOs are not from other worlds, they are from our own, but not from our time. They travel through time to the past. Which is why most of them look humanoid (greys), with a local on board (the taller blonde guy/gal).

Quark

[big]

you guys have all gone off the deep end.
two people sit there (it could be solo) and place just your finger tips on the ouiji thingy.
if there is telewhatever involved, I wanna learn that trick!

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by big
you guys have all gone off the deep end.
two people sit there (it could be solo) and place just your finger tips on the ouiji thingy.
if there is telewhatever involved, I wanna learn that trick!


thats what im saying man.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Quark
Most of the UFOs that are reported are not anything really unusual, they are just not defineable from the witnesses vantage point.

The other tidbit of information that I can add is that most of the actual UFOs are not from other worlds, they are from our own, but not from our time. They travel through time to the past. Which is why most of them look humanoid (greys), with a local on board (the taller blonde guy/gal).

I think you need to watch less SciFi channel and X-Files repeats there Bubba... :D :p

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Quark
Most of the UFOs that are reported are not anything really unusual, they are just not defineable from the witnesses vantage point.

The other tidbit of information that I can add is that most of the actual UFOs are not from other worlds, they are from our own, but not from our time. They travel through time to the past. Which is why most of them look humanoid (greys), with a local on board (the taller blonde guy/gal).

Quark


this theory has a slight hole in it. in order for someone to travel to the past .... they must travel to a time after time travel was possible.... and we all know this alien crap has been going on for a long long time and they havent made time travel possible just yet.


getting close though...i hear.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by Royal Pineapple

a much better topic than your last one;)
i dunno about crop circles, i've seen college students walking arround in circles in the middle of as feild to imitate crop circles. so you can never be too sure which ones are real and which ones are false
real ones emit radiation

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter



as for them not being demons because they are grey.... well demons are able to look however the hell they want.... and whos to say that demons look a certian way? the surgical operation thing with high tech equipment argument that you gave against the demon theory is easily OBLITERATED by the idea that if they are demons ... they can make people think they are trying to be aliens to hide thier real intentions of turning people away from the real truth. so they get all tehnical to hide thier hidden agenda. so the surgical thing is just a cover up man. after all demons are angels and have super human powers

dig it.
i doubt it,demons do not implant chips in people brain's

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter
why am i thinking about drunk aliens now?!?!:D :confused:
aliens do not drink :D
they are taking a baths in H2O2 (2%) and i think there are some nutritions in them

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad

i doubt it,demons do not implant chips in people brain's


how you figure?
whos to say that they cant do that?
they are super human right!

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad

aliens do not drink :D
they are taking a baths in H2O2 (2%) and i think there are some nutritions in them


whats h202? what are nutritions? ive heard that before but ive never bothered to look it up.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by big
you guys have all gone off the deep end.
two people sit there (it could be solo) and place just your finger tips on the ouiji thingy.
if there is telewhatever involved, I wanna learn that trick!
dont do it man!! its probably not telekinesis but demons,you may die short after that or get sick..or lose someone you know

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter



whats h202? what are nutritions? ive heard that before but ive never bothered to look it up.
it's hydrogen peroxide (its what is used in hospitals etc. to stop blood from wounds),and in the that H202 bath there may be some liquified food which they are apsorbing through skin

[big]

dont do it man!! its probably not telekinesis but demons,you may die short after that or get sick..or lose someone you know
your on crack

[Megaquad]

try it then,and you'll see

[coolocity]

My father took a picture of this light in the sky. Some federal officials came and asked him about what he saw. It made it's way into the paper eventually, but nothing too special about it. Pretty cool how the gov't decides to poke their nose into every little wierd thing we see. I'll scan the pic if I can find it, neat stuff.

[King Cobra]

Years ago I saw a whole show on TV, dedicated to UFOs or some s!!t. They were showing these wierd objects in the sky (yes, I will get descriptive); some of them had the same color as the sky and vanished when you wanted to get a closer look at them, and others brightened up the night sky in a pattern or formation, then went dark. Another wierd story on the show was when some guy wanted to take a picture of something he saw with a fresh battery in his camera. But when he went to shoot the picture of what he saw the camera died on him. The battery was out of life.

I also remember my father saying something a while ago on the same night (maybe?) when he saw the show. He thought that it may be having to do with other countries trying to fool us. I will derive on this a little and say that maybe there are some areas in countries with people in them that have such incredible privacy and secret information that may be trying to get information off of people.

Here is probably the most intelligent question IMO about aliens and humans: What the !!!! do aliens get out of a!!l probes? :cool:

[Quark]

Originally posted by krossfyter


this theory has a slight hole in it. in order for someone to travel to the past .... they must travel to a time after time travel was possible.... and we all know this alien crap has been going on for a long long time and they havent made time travel possible just yet.


getting close though...i hear.

So your theory is that you can only travel forward in time from the point it was "invented"? And then you could only travel back to that same point, but not any earlier? This logic does not make any sense.

What are you basing this on?

Essentially, time travel to the past is not the same as time travel to your own past. As you go back in time, you alter the timeline and thereby creating a new timeline. If you try to return to the future, you wouldn't be returning to the future you came from; you'd be returning to the new dimension, branched future that you created.

Travel to the past is possible, just very difficult to conceive.

Quark

[coolocity]

Wow, that has to be the first time I've ever understood the basis of time-travel. Nice going Quark.

[big]

know anything about "Chariot of the Gods"? its a funny `bunk' book, and later turned into a bad movie.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Quark
Essentially, time travel to the past is not the same as time travel to your own past. As you go back in time, you alter the timeline and thereby creating a new timeline. If you try to return to the future, you wouldn't be returning to the future you came from; you'd be returning to the new dimension, branched future that you created.

Travel to the past is possible, just very difficult to conceive.

Quark

From what I understand of time travel, as long as you do not interact with ANYTHING, your time line will remain intact. Altering even the smallest thing in the past can give your timeline a major change. Saving the life of one child in the past could [potentially] kill millions in the future. Epsecially if that one person grows up to develop some nasty virus, or becomes patient zero for a new plaque. Some [apparently] good or minor act can have major ramifications.

Time travel itself should be able to go into either the past or future with equal ease. Once you get over the physics of it that is...

[King Cobra]

Quark, Tech, you guys just brought me back to an episode of the Simpsons, where Homer goes back in time travel and f!!ks up the world with so many wierd occurances. (Yeah, that one, with the broken toaster.)

And it's probably true. If you go back a million years and you step a small, rare patch of grassland, then return to the present, you may have completely wiped out a forest. Or if you knocked down a tree a million years ago and returned to the present everyone would sufficate because of the lack of oxygen from the lack of trees.

However, the Simpsons go way too far with it. Homer goes back a million years, kills a mosquito, retuns to the present, and his enemy, Flanders, is the Almighty. Even the floors liquify. Too funny! :cool:

[Quark]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


From what I understand of time travel, as long as you do not interact with ANYTHING, your time line will remain intact. Altering even the smallest thing in the past can give your timeline a major change. Saving the life of one child in the past could [potentially] kill millions in the future. Epsecially if that one person grows up to develop some nasty virus, or becomes patient zero for a new plaque. Some [apparently] good or minor act can have major ramifications.

Time travel itself should be able to go into either the past or future with equal ease. Once you get over the physics of it that is...

To make it easier for everyone, just by you being there, it has been altered. Whether you perceive the alteration/interaction or not is irrelevant.

The trickier bit is moving between current realities -- the theory is that there are an infinite number of realities or dimensions. You've heard the term "parallel dimension" or "parallel reality", the fact is they are not parallel. Each of them, though similar, will have their own infinite number of branches.

Once you understand that, then time travel and its affects become much, much easier to understand.

Since we are "stuck" in one reality/timeline - everything will seem to be as it has always been. If someone alters the past, we won't know it, because our history will not be altered. The change to the past will branch out into another reality/dimension. It is entirely possible that the past that we know of, has been altered and we are on one of those branches -- and if you think about it too long, you'll begin to realize that our past could be the result of an infinite number of branches, which in fact it is. Don't think about it too much, because you'll hurt your head.

Quark

[King Cobra]

Don't worry, Quark. I just took a couple of Advils, so I'll be ready for another lecture! :D

But I am with you all the way on this. Here is another theory, based on what you said: If you go back in time some length A or to some length B, with B being further back, and you, foresay, start a fire, you are most likely to change the world more by going back in time by length B instead of A, since there are more ∞ branches of change that can pass through during that time. That means that there are more possibilities to have occured once you return to the present. Most likely, there will be better fire protection once you return from point B than from point A, since more time will have been spent on preparations and safety issues.

I think this is one of the most intelligent and philosophical conversations I have read or been involved in. :cool:

[krossfyter]

woooh shoot me!

[Quark]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Don't worry, Quark. I just took a couple of Advils, so I'll be ready for another lecture! :D

But I am with you all the way on this. Here is another theory, based on what you said: If you go back in time some length A or to some length B, with B being further back, and you, foresay, start a fire, you are most likely to change the world more by going back in time by length B instead of A, since there are more infinite branches of change that can pass through during that time. That means that there are more possibilities to have occured once you return to the present. Most likely, there will be better fire protection once you return from point B than from point A, since more time will have been spent on preparations and safety issues.

I think that you are making far too many assumptions, regarding the fire and going back further in time. You could also have created a race of "Fire Worshipers" bent on burning up the world.

It doesn't matter how far back you go, an infinite number of branches is an infinite number of branches. You can't have a more infinite number of branches in B than in A.

Quark

[krossfyter]

i wish i still drank. heh. i would down 3 40 ozs right about now. heh. and some mezcal!!!




but i think im going to drink a whole pitcher of kool aid instead.

[Gelfin]

I feel obligated to speak up as the resident skeptic (apparently the only one), but I'm really not sure what I can say to make people question something they want to believe in. I'm pretty sure there's life besides us out there. I just don't think it's here. This notion of aliens who are shaped more or less like humans, but with some exaggerated features and some exaggerated personality traits, is just fanciful nonsense.

Just look at other intelligent non-primates on our own planet. Some cetacean and bird species are highly intelligent, showing evidence of what we would call abstract symbolic reasoning and well-developed communication skills. Even some octopus show an uncanny problem solving capacity. Yet these species differ from us in a multitude of ways. Whereas people imagine communication with extraterrestials to be a matter of language translation, we don't even know if the way in which human grammar represents human ideas could even possibly make sense within the context of the way a dolphin perceives the world. Parrots have the ability solve complex reasoning problems, to communicate and apparently to understand the symbolic meanings of communication, and to use simple tools to accomplish specific tasks. They are highly social and highly dextrous. They have more opposable digits than we do. In short, they have pretty much all the traits that are said to have given humans an edge, but they have shown no propensity for building civilizations, exploring or conquering the world, or creating art and philosophy. These traits could be almost uniquely human, meaning that in addition to intelligent life, we also have to consider how likely it is that an intelligent species would have ANY interest in dropping by for a visit, establishing a dialog or what have you. I can't readily imagine what environmental pressures could make the human capacity for introspection a survival trait, honestly. Considering we've only been doing it a few thousand years, I'm not sure we've adequately proven that it is. As a result, I think the possibility of meeting extraterrestrials who are even remotely like humans, either physically or psychologically, is so remote that there are a very large number of alternative hypotheses I would consider first.

As far as weird stuff in Huntspatch, AL, I dunno. I lived there for about a decade. I fully expect that EVERY town located near a large military outpost has rumors about undefined secret government stuff going on deep in the middle of the installation. It's inevitable. I never saw any UFOs or anything, though there was the one "lots of people saw a light in the sky" article I saw maybe about five years ago. I didn't see the light, but I saw the article, and there was nothing about the reported facts of the incident that made me say, "Dude! Visitors!" As far as weird stuff at the Arsenal, the only thing I personally ever saw was a couple of completely unmarked black helicopters flying over the arsenal. They were otherwise pretty ordinary Hueys, as I recall, and despite the way such helicopters figure into conspiracy theory lore, there was nothing particularly sinister about them. I suppose the military is free not to mark their helicopters if they so desire, and if they're supposed to be a big secret, flying out near I-565 at rush hour is probably not the best way to maintain secrecy. So, I can personally say that people who claim to have seen black helicopters are not necessarily outright fabricating, but I don't ascribe any particular meaning to it one way or another. It was more like a "*glance* Hunh. Weird." moment.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Quark
To make it easier for everyone, just by you being there, it has been altered. Whether you perceive the alteration/interaction or not is irrelevant.

The trickier bit is moving between current realities -- the theory is that there are an infinite number of realities or dimensions. You've heard the term "parallel dimension" or "parallel reality", the fact is they are not parallel. Each of them, though similar, will have their own infinite number of branches.
Quark

I prefer the term 'alternate dimension' or 'alternate reality'... :D

If you were there, but not visible to anyone of that reality/time, then you could avoid interaction. If you can time travel, I'm sure someone could come up with the tech to do that... :D ;)

[krossfyter]

wow Gelfin you said a mouthful. Allow me to congradulate you on that one. It was interesting.


Quark, Megaquad and King Cobra.... good posts man. very insightful.

[big]

that was a very well thought out and planned writein. (note: black choppers are every now, I see em about once or twice a week). I think they may have something to do with training than anything else.

possible drug location? they do fly pretty low over residential, not a great place to train new guys? "Look ma, there's a helicopter in our neighbors house!"

also-I am not a skeptic per say, I do not believe in aliens abducting people, however, why would there not be life outside of Earth? trying to find us too?

[krossfyter]

unmarked helicopters!

i live near an airstation...one of two places in america training fighters. i too swear ive seen them also.... just a hum sound overhead.... black silhouett ...flying low... no marks, hovering ...the Lord is comming soon.




*soul coughing mixture*

[King Cobra]

By Quark: It doesn't matter how far back you go, an infinite number of branches is an infinite number of branches. You can't have a more infinite number of branches in B than in A.

I am not referring to the number of ∞ branches as much as I am referring to the amount of time that has passed in relation to the possibilities of these branches changing.

When I said: "That means that there are more possibilities to have occured once you return to the present" I meant that those infinite branches may have altered over the extended period of time in comparison to a shorter period of time. I am saying that over a greater peiod of time no two branches can be the same, but as time progress no two branches can stay the same, either. They have to change. If they don't, then that means there are branches that stay the same, which usually are the same branches from some time "T" ago, which means that time has not passed. If time cannot pass, then these branches cannot change. As a result, if the results from traveling A and B years back and starting the fire are the same, then there is no time difference between A and B.

Hey, fyter, I'm glad to hear you are enjoying the philosophy lesson. There will be a test later on! :cool:

[krossfyter]

cool. i still hold to the beacon idea.... cant go back in time to a time when time travel was not invented...etc. etc. but im eager to hear everyones ideas and or thoughts whatever they may be. im not one who disrespects someone else because they dont have the same belief or preferences as i do. screw that kind of immaturity.


dig it.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Years ago I saw a whole show on TV, dedicated to UFOs or some s!!t. They were showing these wierd objects in the sky (yes, I will get descriptive); some of them had the same color as the sky and vanished when you wanted to get a closer look at them, and others brightened up the night sky in a pattern or formation, then went dark. Another wierd story on the show was when some guy wanted to take a picture of something he saw with a fresh battery in his camera. But when he went to shoot the picture of what he saw the camera died on him. The battery was out of life.
maybe those ufo's create some kind of EMP pulse,which purposs may be preventing taking snaps of it?

[Megaquad]

yesterday,i downloaded strange 5mb .pdf file from LimeWire,it is called US Army - official extraterrestrial manual,dont start laughing,it looks pretty convincing.
there are cca 25 pages of photographed manual from '50s about UFO crash protocols and extraterrestrial technology disposal
if you want i'll upload it somewhere

[krossfyter]

this illumination visited upon the whole land

unmarked helicopters hovering the Lord is comming soon


here comes the super copter here comes the noise it makes

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by krossfyter
this illumination visited upon the whole land

unmarked helicopters hovering the Lord is comming soon

Better get a towel then... :D

[Gelfin]

Originally posted by Megaquad

maybe those ufo's create some kind of EMP pulse,which purposs may be preventing taking snaps of it?

An EM pulse would do a lot more than prevent someone taking a photograph. In order to support that hypothesis, you have to accept that either aliens somehow know when a human is contemplating taking a photograph of them, which is kind of silly since if they're so omniscient, why would they need to bother visiting? Alternatively they'd have to emit EM pulses constantly just in case somebody was hanging around with a camera. In this case you'd be able to find aliens easily just by following the trail of power outages and ruined electronic equipment.

Never mind that the only way we know of to generate an EM pulse is to detonate a nuclear device. Other sources of EM surges in the universe seem to rely on similarly violent stellar phenomena (solar flares, for instance). You have to release a tremendous amount of energy in a very brief period. Maybe if an alien spacecraft exploded...

This is an excellent example of ad hoc reasoning. You know ahead of time what conclusion you wish to reach, and so you tailor your reasoning in such a way that it supports that conclusion.

Oh, and with regard to the supposed 50s government extraterrestial manual, I think I've seen that before, and seen it debunked. If I recall correctly there were several elements (markings, phrases with specific military meanings and so forth) that demonstrate that the manual is not a genuine US military publication from the time period it claims to come from.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Better get a towel then... :D



they said it was a weather balloon.

:D


i know the names of the people they had to hang.

[Megaquad]

my point is,they may have very advanced technology which makes it possible for them to somehow disable all technology,it is known that cars stop,and all kinds of el.equipment 'dies'.
instead od arguing about that technology,you should talk to aliens/government scientist,not me.

[big]

All I dreamt about last night was the coming end of the world. It was like we all knew it was coming, and tried to all go on our normal way "just incase" it didn't happen. no one seemed frieghtened though. It was more interesting than scary.

[Megaquad]

http://homepage.mac.com/megaquad/.cv/megaquad/Public/US%20ARMY%20%2D%20UFO%20Official%20Manu21F2-binhex.hqx
pdf file i was talking about

[big]

aaaaaaggggg that thing is totally for real! did you look through it? did you see the cigar shaped ufo w/the windows on the side? note my earlier post about it earlier this week.... I posted the description before seeing that book,

I'm telling you, what I saw was no ordinary jet or weather balloon!

[krossfyter]

....

[krossfyter]

hey... i just saw an alien. flew right past me in an unmarked helicopter. ehhhm.



man im bored.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by big
aaaaaaggggg that thing is totally for real! did you look through it? did you see the cigar shaped ufo w/the windows on the side? note my earlier post about it earlier this week.... I posted the description before seeing that book,

I'm telling you, what I saw was no ordinary jet or weather balloon!
i believe you,there are many pictures of flying cigars,and it is known that there exist such vessels

i really believe that document is not fake
who knows what they (USA gov) know now..

[big]

great, I'm not alone in my pshycosis

[AlphaTech]

As long as you realize that it is a psychosis, and all in your head too...

Flying cigars are just coming up from Cuba, that's how they smuggle them in these days... :D

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Flying cigars are just coming up from Cuba, that's how they smuggle them in these days... :D

Just watch out when those 8 inchers fall down...they can burn a hole in the ground! Now we just need to watch out for those Irish glass mugs and pitchers! :D

The closest I have seen to UFOs are meteors in the atmosphere, most easily visible about 30 to 60 minutes before sunset. They look cool...

Hey, fyter, it's a new day. Got any other stories to tell? :cool:

[big]

yummmm last time I had a cuban was 3 years ago, my cousin (living in saudi) came home for a visit, he flew through holland and, well, everything is legal there! so he smuggled me some.

I've found some cigars better than those grown in the dominican republic, I think the cuban cigars intrige is that thay are illegal.

[Quark]

I know where my towel is, do you know where yours is?

Quark

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Quark
I know where my towel is, do you know where yours is?

Quark

Of course... I also have a stockpile of Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters :D

And a copy of THGTTG :D Remember... "Don't Panic!"

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra


Hey, fyter, it's a new day. Got any other stories to tell? :cool:




i saw a CHUPACABRA!

[krossfyter]

check it out man...


a real CHUPACABRA...

[King Cobra]

WTF is a CHUMPACABRA? I never heard of this before!

Is that your picture, or did you take it from your neighbors Area 51? :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
WTF is a CHUMPACABRA? I never heard of this before!

Is that your picture, or did you take it from your neighbors Area 51? :cool:



What is El Chupacabra?
El Chupacabra - Means "the goat sucker" in Spanish.

Named because of the way it sucked all the blood from Puerto Rican goats, the Chupacabra has been leaving fear in its tracks for many years now.

First spotted in Puerto Rico in 1994, the Chupacabra has since migrated off the island and has recently been spotted in many locations including South America as well as the US. Although it was named because of its choice of goat-blood as a meal, the Chupacabra has reportedly attacked and devoured the blood of a wide variety of animals including dogs and sheep. As far as we know, there have yet to be any human fatalities.

Due to the distinct technique the strange animal has of killing its prey, it is very easy to tell if the Chupacabra was involved in an animals death. Animals are found with puncture wounds in their neck and most of their blood removed. Often, the victim's organs have disappeared even though the only wound is a small hole in the animal's neck. Reports of laser-like cuts on the victim's ears are also common.

Appearance

It is hard to describe the appearance of El Chupacabra because sightings greatly differ. Most say it is either gray or green. Some say it has a large lizard-like tongue, others say it has wings.

A bipedal creature (one that stands upright like a human), the Chupacabra has had many sightings where its height was reported to be anywhere from 3 and 6 feet tall. Some say it walks, some say it flies, and some say it has a kangaroo hop.


Where did it come from?

Like the descriptions of El Chupacabras' appearance, people's ideas of its origin widely vary. Many say it's a new species, or a relative to the panther. More eccentric scholars say it is a dinosaur or an alien. Another theory is that there is a portal to another dimension that stretches from Puerto Rico across to South America.A cool theory is that an alien spacecraft contained El Chupacabras' as pets or for study, and they somehow escaped during an accident, or a crash.

[krossfyter]

want a picture from area 51?!!! here it is homeboy...

[krossfyter]

calling MR. COBRA!

[King Cobra]

That's nuts man. I'm glad I was brought back to reality, where an imaginary creature has once again been spotted. :D

Are you sure that picture from A51 isn't from a movie or some s!!t? It looks real.

How did these guys get these "aliens" inside w/o anyone or everyone knowing?

I have my own theory about things being kept hidden from the public. (Actually, my father told me about it.) Remember the theory of some unbreakable, unbendable metal Krypton or some such? According to him, the gov. may be hiding this somewhere.

fyter, you think you can find a picture of it from somewhere in the A51 base station? :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
That's nuts man. I'm glad I was brought back to reality, where an imaginary creature has once again been spotted. :D

Are you sure that picture from A51 isn't from a movie or some s!!t? It looks real.

How did these guys get these "aliens" inside w/o anyone or everyone knowing?

I have my own theory about things being kept hidden from the public. (Actually, my father told me about it.) Remember the theory of some unbreakable, unbendable metal Krypton or some such? According to him, the gov. may be hiding this somewhere.

fyter, you think you can find a picture of it from somewhere in the A51 base station? :cool:




yeah dude i can find that thing. i know where it is at. hold on...give me some time here.



and thats a real chupacabra man.

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by krossfyter
calling MR. COBRA!

Nope. He's not here right now. A friend of him, named K. Cobra, dropped by and posted in response to you after having his supper, a 7 foot rat snake! :eek: (Actually, it was pasta.)

He should be anywhere nearby, probably watching and waiting for you right now. :cool:

[krossfyter]

i have a mongoose. watch out!

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by fyterdog
i have a mongoose. watch out!

Easy, dog. I am already typing from about 6 feet above the ground. And this big tree branch looks pretty loose... :eek:

Why doesn't that goatsucker (I first saw that word on Win Ben Stein's Money) go after goats and not wolves or some other animal? You think that in Mexico there would be plenty of those animals roaming about that something would eat it...

What the heck is the DNA config. for that thing anyways? It's probably CCACGGTGAATAGCCTGETETETETET :cool:

[krossfyter]

check it out man... heres the pic of that deal you wanted...

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by fyterdog
check it out man... heres the pic of that deal you wanted...

Dude, that's too real! :eek:

What about metal parts to UFOs or the whole spaceship? Do you have any pics of those?

I wonder if you threw that metal thing into the sun the sun would not burn away for another billion years.

Damn, fyter, you're making me think too hard! :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra


Dude, that's too real! :eek:

What about metal parts to UFOs or the whole spaceship? Do you have any pics of those?

I wonder if you threw that metal thing into the sun the sun would not burn away for another billion years.

Damn, fyter, you're making me think too hard! :cool:


yeah i can get some. wait though.
heh. that think is hella tight. i wish i had it. i would OWN. anyways... hold on.... heres another one....

[King Cobra]

Man, gold metal that isn't made out of gold.

That thing makes the $20 Gold Liberty I got last year look like nothing.

Are you sure that the pic isn't from the same krypton metal?

[krossfyter]

that artifact was found about 3 feet from an aliens' body near roswell. the person who found it talks about the results of the analyses he had done on it at an university in Japan. It was found to be made out of a very unusual material. the heiroglyphics present on the item have never been catalogued and no one can come up with a meaning to them yet. something trippy is going on.

[King Cobra]

Maybe these symbols were developed on some portion of gold by some criminal or such to make us think that aliens exist, when we know that there is already possible life out there. Who knows?

BTW, fyterdog, I may be absent from posting, since there is a thunderstorm moving my way and I don't want lightning jacked into the Cube. But let the discussion continue. :cool:

[krossfyter]

okay cobra. we have are share of storms down here. i know what you mean.


anyways... heres that alien...the device was found near this alien...

[King Cobra]

Damnit, fyterdog, I didn't ask for an alien pictures...that goes beyond nuts!

Just pictures of the UFOs or metal parts to them. Just try to keep it less graphic, as there are 13 years olds roaming the forums. :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Damnit, fyterdog, I didn't ask for an alien pictures...that goes beyond nuts!

Just pictures of the UFOs or metal parts to them. Just try to keep it less graphic, as there are 13 years olds roaming the forums. :cool:


oh snap! thats too graphic??? hmmm.... okay.


ill keep it where you want it.;)

[krossfyter]

"obelisk", hovering with no visible means of support...

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by fyterdog
oh snap! thats too graphic???

Actually, it's not even close to graphic enough for me. He!!, I've seen Predator 1 and all of its ugly nature and graphics when I was not even 10 years old! :eek: And I've gotten used to nature like that.

That's why I did so well in Biology labs. :D

I just think that it's a bit graphic to post on the forums. Maybe a link would work. :cool:

[krossfyter]

....

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by fyterdog
"obelisk", hovering with no visible means of support...

Cool. I never heard about the "Obelisk". What is inside the ship? Do you have photos if that? (Actually, I shouldn't bother to ask, as you seem to have photos of about everything.)

Damn, where do you get these photos anyways?

Shut up, man. I'M THINKING TOO HARD! :eek: :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra


Cool. I never heard about the "Obelisk". What is inside the ship? Do you have photos if that? (Actually, I shouldn't bother to ask, as you seem to have photos of about everything.)

Damn, where do you get these photos anyways?

Shut up, man. I'M THINKING TOO HARD! :eek: :cool:




if i told you.... they would have to hang me!:D

[King Cobra]

Hey, fyterdog, why the he!! are you posting the same time as me? Knock it off! :eek:

As for your saucer photo, if that is real (tell me it isn't), then there has to be credible evidence about other life forms on the planet.

What about BigFoot? I'm sure you have photos of him as well. :cool:

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by krossfyter
if i told you.... they would have to hang me!:D

Can those guys read private messages, so they don't find out? :D

Besides, I won't run away with the answer (except to vacate to Maine).

You have got something going with photos. What about spaceship controls and other wierd symbols.

Don't ask me for any photos, since I just have pictures of real people from Earth. :cool:

[krossfyter]

ive got this video also. its on my harddrive.


anyone know how i can put it up withoout putting it on any site? if i cant do that ...ill just put it on my site for the mean time.... its wicked cool.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter
okay cobra. we have are share of storms down here. i know what you mean.


anyways... heres that alien...the device was found near this alien...
now this is spooky,where did you get that?
im starting to believe you're not crazy :D :D

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad

now this is spooky,where did you get that?

im starting to believe you're not crazy :D :D


some folks on these boards would differ with you on my craziness... but yeah...ummm if i told you where i got it i would have to be hung or shot.

[Megaquad]

my source gave me these pictures of el chupacabra

[Megaquad]

and another pic of chupacabra..

[Megaquad]

now some pics of real metal from rosswel ufo crash

[krossfyter]

chupacabra mania!



im trying to find that report of this person who actually visited a hanger in area 51. it was real intresting because he described it to detail i believe and he made mention of some new technology etc. etc. seemed very credible but ya know.

[Megaquad]

big,this is for you

[Megaquad]

extremely rare kind of ufo's

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter
chupacabra mania!



im trying to find that report of this person who actually visited a hanger in area 51. it was real intresting because he described it to detail i believe and he made mention of some new technology etc. etc. seemed very credible but ya know.
yeah right..he would already be dead if it is true.. (or theyre not killing him so that his story doesnt look real or something)
i saw him on tv..he was talking about antimatter as a fuel for ufo's..
i didnt believe him..noone from area 51 would talk about this...he knows he would be shot!

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad

yeah right..he would already be dead if it is true.. (or theyre not killing him so that his story doesnt look real or something)
i saw him on tv..he was talking about antimatter as a fuel for ufo's..
i didnt believe him..noone from area 51 would talk about this...he knows he would be shot!

unless they were anonymous...right? i dont remember the person being interviewed giving thier name. it can happen. i dont know if this is the same guy i am talkin about. if it is or isnt or whatever... maybe either person is dead already....maybe they havent caught them/him yet. of all the people that know there has got to be a few that take the risk.


whos to say that there is not?

[Megaquad]

ahh..who knows,actually,it would be interesting to creat some sort of flying robot..robot carrier which would land small robot in area 51 and fly away
little robot size of a bigger bug would infiltrate area 51 and it would have camera,mic,transmitter..
it is totally possible,todays surveillance technology is very advanced,i think its possible

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad
ahh..who knows,actually,it would be interesting to creat some sort of flying robot..robot carrier which would land small robot in area 51 and fly away
little robot size of a bigger bug would infiltrate area 51 and it would have camera,mic,transmitter..
it is totally possible,todays surveillance technology is very advanced,i think its possible



im sure the people at area 51 thought of this and so they have a defense against it. anyways but yeah.... it would be intresting to get someone to do it.i just dont want to be the one sending in that robo bug thats for sure. i dont want to take that risk.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter


unless they were anonymous...right? i dont remember the person being interviewed giving thier name. it can happen. i dont know if this is the same guy i am talkin about. if it is or isnt or whatever... maybe either person is dead already....maybe they havent caught them/him yet. of all the people that know there has got to be a few that take the risk.


whos to say that there is not?
i think that person who said all that is smart enough to know that would be suicide

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter




im sure the people at area 51 thought of this and so they have a defense against it. anyways but yeah.... it would be intresting to get someone to do it.i just dont want to be the one sending in that robo bug thats for sure. i dont want to take that risk.
I'd do it first..just tell me how and give me that bug :D

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad

i think that person who said all that is smart enough to know that would be suicide



so maybe he thought it is more important for the world to know about this crap then his actual life. maybe he has cancer or something and was going to die so it wouldnt really matter. who knows. all things are possible.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by Megaquad

I'd do it first..just tell me how and give me that bug :D


get someone else to make you that bug! i dont want to be directly or indirectly involved... i guess i kinda am already aye?....but you know what i mean.


dig it.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter



get someone else to make you that bug! i dont want to be directly or indirectly involved... i guess i kinda am already aye?....but you know what i mean.


dig it.
my point is,they will never get me,im hiding in croatia,the bug will selfdestruct if detected,but all data will be transmitted somehow..damn,i need someone to help me from usa..nevermind,ill send it over ocean on ship
gps should help
and btw,i need some ion thrusters ;)
5 years from now or so,ill start the project

[krossfyter]

you're tripping on shrooms dude!:D

[Megaquad]

you must hear this!!!
MP3 file of some guy that called radio..he was on the air (http://www.metatech.org/Art%20Bell%20Area%2051%20Call.mp3)
it's from http://www.metatech.org/Art_Bell_Area_51_aliens_audio_tape.html

[krossfyter]

thats jacked.

keep them shrooms away!

[coolocity]

Originally posted by Megaquad
you must hear this!!!
MP3 file of some guy that called radio..he was on the air (http://www.metatech.org/Art%20Bell%20Area%2051%20Call.mp3)
it's from http://www.metatech.org/Art_Bell_Area_51_aliens_audio_tape.html


I have to honestly say Art Bell is one of the greatest reporters of our time :D His site is cool, so is his radio show (I listen every night.) www.artbell.com - dig it! (man, I so ripped off krossfyter on that phrase.)

[krossfyter]

yeah i enjoy artbell.


(thanks megaquad for doing you know what ...now im going to have to cutt ya!)
:mad: :D :p

[Gelfin]

Man, I hate to be such a killjoy here, but...

1) One of those UFO shots was CLEARLY straight out of a first season X-Files episode.

2) The picture of the "alien" hanging among crash test dummies is lit COMPLETELY differently from everything else in the scene. It doesn't look real at all.

3) "Krypton" is not an alien super-metal. It is element 36, a noble gas most commonly used in fluorescent lightbulbs.

4) The "hieroglyphics" on the gold-tone metal fragment do not follow the curve of the surface. Also, yeah, picture of gold-colored metal. So what? What makes that necessarily "alien?" I can acquire similar looking pieces off a number of toys. My first impression for those gold metal bits is that somebody is showing off their process for doing gold-tone plating for stuff like trim on cars.

5) I'd put more faith in those "chupacabra" photos if any two of them looked like pictures of the same species of animal.

Geez, show folks a fake Apple PDA and they tear it apart in seconds. Take an ambiguous picture of a bit of metal and say it came off an alien spaceship and they never question it. What's wrong with this picture?

[krossfyter]

rock on gelfin. keep um comming.


to me this crap is more intresting than a rumor of an apple pda.


i wont argue with you on any of these pics autenticity... thats ludicrious and boring.



im just hanging out here man! i enjoy the mystery, skepticism and lore of it all... dig it.

[Megaquad]

it doesn't matter if some of those pics are fake,it matters that ufo's exist,and they probably have those superior metals..
as for chupacabra..i dont care

[krossfyter]

but would you care if those chupacabras came from a crashed alien ship?.... thier pets?


heh.

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by krossfyter
but would you care if those chupacabras came from a crashed alien ship?.... thier pets?


heh.
no they arent their pets,i tell you,they dont like cats
they are cold,almost no emotions..i still remember when gray looked at me..it was damn scary man..
then i punched him..they are very weak! my grandfather hided his body somewhere in the woods,he wont tell me where..
lol i dont have grandfather,crazy me

[krossfyter]

what in the frekin world?!!!....

[King Cobra]

Hey, Gelfin, since you said it yourself...

Originally posted by Gelfin
Man, I [am] ... such a killjoy here
:D Let me respond to whatever I can

1) One of those UFO shots was CLEARLY straight out of a first season X-Files episode.

2) The picture of the "alien" hanging among crash test dummies is lit COMPLETELY differently from everything else in the scene. It doesn't look real at all.
I don't care for X-Files. As for the lighting, it could be from dark color. But you can't "prove" anything from a low quality photo that has everything in yellow tone.

3) "Krypton" is not an alien super-metal. It is element 36, a noble gas most commonly used in fluorescent lightbulbs.
I thought it was helium and/or hydrogen gas. But I was thinking more along the lines of kryptonite, a legendary metal from Superman that no one has proved to exist. That would be my fault if I said krypton, as I thought that what the "legend" has for its composition.
[i]
4) The "hieroglyphics" on the gold-tone metal fragment do not follow the curve of the surface. Also, yeah, picture of gold-colored metal. So what? What makes that necessarily "alien?" I can acquire similar looking pieces off a number of toys. My first impression for those gold metal bits is that somebody is showing off their process for doing gold-tone plating for stuff like trim on cars.
Maybe it's an illusion, or the symbols are shapped in a way such that when you look at it from a certain angle it looks unbent. Besides, how can you tell that the particular part of the metal that had the symbols on it was bent? Wouldn't you be able to define it by light streaks? As for the gold shines, again, everything in the photos appears in a yellow tinge. So you can't prove that it is gold, but it sure looks convincing.

Oh, man, I have to quote you again? :eek:

5) I'd put more faith in those "chupacabra" photos if any two of them looked like pictures of the same species of animal.
So you are saying that the "chupacabra" has to be of one and only one species to define it as such an animal? What about the possibilities that there may be more than one type of chupacabra? If you think that it's impossible, then what about people who have their own versions of what aliens look like, from Independence Day, to Red Planet, to South Park? What about the different types of UFOs? It's unfair to say that everything has to look exactly the same for it to be definable. I could be more specific, but I don't want to hurt you, Captain Bringdown, THAT much.

One last time...

Geez, show folks a fake Apple PDA and they tear it apart in seconds. Take an ambiguous picture of a bit of metal and say it came off an alien spaceship and they never question it. What's wrong with this picture?
You are entitled to question it all you want, but at least respect people's opinions. And who says no one questions it? In fact, I question it, but at least I try to make a theory of how such a thing could exist in terms of what we may encounter. And don't mention the words "Apple PDA" in this forum, or you may get your :eek: kicked. J/K.

Gelfin, you seem to want to think that photos and other evidence you see that people admire strongly are of things that do not exist. At least try to respond in such a way that it seems like something is out there, so you don't sound like a wierdo. :cool:

[krossfyter]

Chupacabra

in the branch of a willow tree
i can see you but you can't see me
i doesn't really matter
cause you can't run anyway

and i know what i wanna do
it'll only take a second to get a hold on you
so let's get to business
cause i didn't come here to play

chupa-
yeah chupacabra
gonna reach, gonna reach
gonna reach right out and grab ya

yeah, chupa-
yeah chupacabra
gonna reach, gonna reach
gonna reach right out and grab ya

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
chupacabra!

get stuck at 9 o'clock
10 to 12 it's time to rock
the 12 minute baby i ain't gonna mess around

they say i only like cats and goats
but you're the kind of prey i like the most
listen up baby you're the best thing that i've found

chupa-
yeah chupacabra
gonna reach, gonna reach
gonna reach right out and grab ya

chupa-
yeah chupacabra
gonna reach, gonna reach
gonna reach right out and grab ya

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
chupacabra!

chupa-
chupacabra
gonna reach, gonna reach
gonna reach right out and grab ya

chupa-
yeah chupacabra
gonna reach, gonna reach
gonna reach right out and grab ya
reach right out and grab ya
reach right out and grab ya

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Megaquad
it doesn't matter if some of those pics are fake,it matters that ufo's exist,and they probably have those superior metals..

Why am I NOT surprised you came up with something moronic like this??? :rolleyes: :p

[krossfyter]

hey alpha tech...im going to invent the..

chupacabra motorbike.


its going to rival the harley in the market.

its objective is to define what a hardcore bike really is.


its going to have the patent sound of a chupacabra and the smell from the exaust. it will suck the blood out of any bike made.

watch out!


heh.

[Gelfin]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Hey, Gelfin, since you said it yourself...

Hey, SOMEBODY has to ask the hard questions or who knows what people would start accepting as "fact". :)

I don't care for X-Files. As for the lighting, it could be from dark color. But you can't "prove" anything from a low quality photo that has everything in yellow tone.

The picture in question was small, but quite clear, and had no yellow tone, being a black and white photo. The crash test dummies were very deeply shadowed, illuminated mostly by ambient light. The face of the "alien" was illuminated from a nonexistent directional source somewhere below and to the right, which does not illuminate or cast shadows upon the surrounding dummies. Inconsistent lighting is one of the most common signs of a faked photo.

I thought it was helium and/or hydrogen gas. But I was thinking more along the lines of kryptonite, a legendary metal from Superman that no one has proved to exist. That would be my fault if I said krypton, as I thought that what the "legend" has for its composition.

No one is likely to prove Kryptonite exists either, unless you somehow suppose that writers at DC Comics have some great insight into extraterrestrial materials science and decided to insert it into their books. Incidentally, Kryptonite is not a metal. It's a crystal, most commonly green. And it glows. And it doesn't exist.

Maybe it's an illusion, or the symbols are shapped in a way such that when you look at it from a certain angle it looks unbent. Besides, how can you tell that the particular part of the metal that had the symbols on it was bent? Wouldn't you be able to define it by light streaks? As for the gold shines, again, everything in the photos appears in a yellow tinge. So you can't prove that it is gold, but it sure looks convincing.

See, there's that ad hoc reasoning again. You've already decided what you believe, and you'll come up with fantastic explanations to answer any questions in order to support your conclusion. Personally, I see it as far more likely that a human made the item in that photograph no matter what it is. Even if it's a chunk of solid gold with weird optical illusion ink on it, human beings are by far the more likely source, for want of any evidence to the contrary.

So you are saying that the "chupacabra" has to be of one and only one species to define it as such an animal? What about the possibilities that there may be more than one type of chupacabra? If you think that it's impossible, then what about people who have their own versions of what aliens look like, from Independence Day, to Red Planet, to South Park? What about the different types of UFOs? It's unfair to say that everything has to look exactly the same for it to be definable. I could be more specific, but I don't want to hurt you, Captain Bringdown, THAT much.

I'm feelin' no pain. Don't worry about me. The claim is made that there is some predator, unknown to mainstream taxonomy, in Central America, which the locals call a chupacabra. I certainly don't think it's impossible. I think discovering a previously unknown species is FAR more likely than getting your hands on a chunk of alien space metal. However, so far it is unproven. This is an attempt to identify a particular animal species. Showing pictures of a half dozen different animals and saying they're all examples of this animal does not advance the cause. If you identify a half dozen different previously unknown predators, good for you. They'll all need names and such, in addition to evidence that they actually exist. Biology as a science just tends to work that way.

Oh, and the reason there are different versions of what aliens look like from Independence Day to Red Planet to South Park is that those aliens are fictional. You know, not real. Somebody made them up.

You are entitled to question it all you want, but at least respect people's opinions. And who says no one questions it? In fact, I question it, but at least I try to make a theory of how such a thing could exist in terms of what we may encounter.

I respect other people's opinions plenty. I'm just trying to prod people into thinking about what they see rather than just absorbing whatever they're exposed to and assuming it's true.

Gelfin, you seem to want to think that photos and other evidence you see that people admire strongly are of things that do not exist. At least try to respond in such a way that it seems like something is out there, so you don't sound like a wierdo. :cool:

In the words of the late Dr. Carl Sagan, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm certainly open to the possibilities, but I refuse to keep my mind so open that my brain falls out. Show me something that can be studied, repeated and proven, not some ambiguous pictures with a tantalizing little story attached to them.

[AlphaTech]

Hate to bust it to ya krossfyter, but motorcycles don't have blood... Oil, gas and brake fluid yes, blood, no. :p

So how bad is it going to reek??? We'll be able to smell you a mile away and shoot your ass off before you get too close...

Of course, since most Harley riders are armed (at least in the US), your ChuBike will die very fast. HD will also come out with bolt-on armor plating for the Harley's on the road now, and will integrate armor into all future bikes. Of course, the engine size will need to be increased to compensate for the extra weight of the armor (and to allow us Harley riders to get away from your stench).

The ChuBike will be a minor footnote in the history books, and Harley will continue as if it never even existed at all. :p :D

[King Cobra]

All right, fyterdog. A little poetry, huh?

Here is something I am making up about this kryptonite. Read it fast like a rap song.

It's on the earth somewhere.
But nobody get's their fair share
As somebody, a government's heir
Hides the spare from the public's fair.
Who says it's not right?
I would want to fight.
Just like everybody's right
To tell somebody I am right.

I'm right about the money.
Tell your honey they're funny
As those secrects seem c*nty
I am spending just what's plenty.
I tell you I'm not pretending
But those guys make me venting
They tell lies about the metal.
The metal from the alien's kettle.

Those guys have flies about the metal
But I will just not settle
For the cries I say I'm right
About the kryptonite.
It's somewhere on Earth.
But the agents keep the birth
Of the public and their speaking
Hiding metals from our protesting.

I've spent too much on paying
People to repent their saying
On such a metal they meant
It's not real. Hey! What I'm saying
What I feel, it's real, to real
To know what to feel.
No support helps me reel
To my opinion of the golden steel.

Chorus:
So I'm all alone, I'm the bone
For conspiracies to pick with tone.
All these theories of what's my sight
Are kept by secrecies. Is that right?
Now I know I'm all alone
And I have to move my bone
But I'm gonna' groove 'n fight
And prove it's kryptonite.

(That was verse 1.)

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Hate to bust it to ya krossfyter, but motorcycles don't have blood... Oil, gas and brake fluid yes, blood, no. :p

So how bad is it going to reek??? We'll be able to smell you a mile away and shoot your ass off before you get too close...

Of course, since most Harley riders are armed (at least in the US), your ChuBike will die very fast. HD will also come out with bolt-on armor plating for the Harley's on the road now, and will integrate armor into all future bikes. Of course, the engine size will need to be increased to compensate for the extra weight of the armor (and to allow us Harley riders to get away from your stench).

The ChuBike will be a minor footnote in the history books, and Harley will continue as if it never even existed at all. :p :D



the blood thing was simply symbolic man. and hell yeah you harley riders will be able to smell this chubike from miles away...but before you can fire... the chupa bike will be soo quick you wont have time to throw the first first blow because this bike will suck the soul from the harley bike and spit it out. no armor will deter it. the Chupacabra bike will be a major pivioting point in the history of armored vehicles. Just like the cannon and the jet fighter and the sub. It will revolutionize the MUSCLE machine.


dig it.

[AlphaTech]

krossfyter, go back to smoking your drugs... :rolleyes: :p :eek: :cool: :D

BTW, wtf is wrong with your tar??? A black square does not a tar make... :p

[King Cobra]

Gelfin, maybe I am "DUI" of these photos being real, and I refuse to argue against you, since your arguments seem strong enough as conclusive.

Here's another theory: In order to discuss and have an intelligent conversation about other life forms you need to have "ad hog" reasoning. If I am not mistaken, you are saying that the rule implies that people derive crazy theories and try to prove them correct. Well, if you didn't have ad hog, then nobody would make any crazy reasoning whatsoever, meaning no theories, meaning no interest.

And expect people to go their own way about ad hog, whether a theory exists or not. Even if those photos were fake, there still is the possibility of hryptonite or such metal existing. It just seems that by the way you are saying it, you do not want to have ad hog reasoning, which I think is stupid, when discussing such astronomical possibilities. It doesn't make a topic fun.

BTW: The photo is probably fake, but I still like it. :cool:

[Gelfin]

Originally posted by King Cobra
It just seems that by the way you are saying it, you do not want to have ad hog reasoning, which I think is stupid, when discussing such astronomical possibilities. It doesn't make a topic fun.

Hoc. Ad hoc. Latin for "towards this." I'm certainly not saying that people shouldn't come up with hypotheses, even odd ones. Occasionally the odd ones are correct. But the difference between ad hoc reasoning and the scientific method is that a scientist comes up with a hypothesis to explain an observed phenomenon and then does everything he can think of to prove it wrong. Existence of alternate explanations, absence of confirming evidence, irreproducability of results... all these prevent a hypothesis from becoming a proper theory.

And I wouldn't be so down on people's speculation about alien life if they didn't invariably wind up believing they knew something really bizarre, on the basis of questionable photos, sketchy descriptions, and something they heard on Art Bell last night. Belief in nonsense is higher in the U.S. now than it's been in a long, long time. Where we once had snake oil salesmen, we now have new agey people claiming to "heal your aura," which is great because they aren't even out the cost of a fake elixir. It's pure profit. People routinely just make stuff up, and other people routinely buy into whatever's fed to them.

Anyhow, I would just prefer that people at least have an understanding of how rigorous critical thought works. That's why stuff like this winds me up. :)

[King Cobra]

You are probably right about the last part of your statement, as I have seen several TV shows regarding bizzare and ONLY bizzare events, ranging from photos to video "footage" of some monkey-like creature that walks like a human and stands 2 meters. Especially when you have guys with their Masters and PhDs mouthing off on their opinions on such material in the form ad hog. It's like the guys on The Weather Channel. They get paid 6 digits while being accurate less than a third of the time. :D

I'll support your arguments, Gelfin, but I have to say that you seemed to put a damper on fyterdog's discussion. :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
krossfyter, go back to smoking your drugs... :rolleyes: :p :eek: :cool: :D

BTW, wtf is wrong with your tar??? A black square does not a tar make... :p


im alive and undrugged dude. believe it or not. i only partake in blackberry kool aid straight from the package... with some some salt and a lot of suger. mmm tasty. sour as hell man... i love it that way. im a sourcholic. i have yet to meet my match as far as sour things go. nothings too strong for me. if you know of anything tell me. my taste buds would like a challenge.

anyways.... my tar man!! its an umarked tar DAWG! like my sig says...."creator of the first and only unmarked tar".
as for it not really being a tar...who said "black tars do not constitute a real avatar" ???? no one man! im legit man....straight up.
:p

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by krossfyter
im alive and undrugged dude. believe it or not.

I select NOT!!!

as for it not really being a tar...who said "black tars do not constitute a real avatar" ????

Actually, I did... :p Remember "A black square does not a tar make."

[King Cobra]

hey, fyterdog, plan to use an alien as an avatar? black looks boring man

Dude, if you put any more sugar in the koolaid your mouth is going to turn inside out! :eek: :D

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


I select NOT!!!



Actually, I did... :p Remember "A black square does not a tar make."


okay unless any mod tells me not to i wont budge...kay?!!!

dig it.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
hey, fyterdog, plan to use an alien as an avatar? black looks boring man

Dude, if you put any more sugar in the koolaid your mouth is going to turn inside out! :eek: :D


wither a tar is boring or not is realtive.

my tar is more like a statement.

its clever aint it? on ones done it before thats for sure.... its unmarked man. who would of thought of that? im hitting you all on another level man. dig it.


how you figure about the kool aid? any proof?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by krossfyter
wither a tar is boring or not is realtive.

my tar is more like a statement.

its clever aint it? on ones done it before thats for sure.... its unmarked man. who would of thought of that? im hitting you all on another level man. dig it.

Well, your tar takes the cake for being the most boring and uncreative, that is certain.

Sub-human intelligence is NOT a good level to be.. :p :D

bend it

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Well, your tar takes the cake for being the most boring and uncreative, that is certain.

Sub-human intelligence is NOT a good level to be.. :p :D

bend it


well thats a rather relative statement so it dont hurt one bit man.

[krossfyter]

either way i WIN!

im awarded the most boring tar ever!
im awarded the most clever tar ever!

and this one is true regardless...

I HAVE THE FIRST UNMARKED TAR ON MACRUMORS!



dig it.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by krossfyter
well thats a rather relative statement so it dont hurt one bit man.

Sort of how intelligence is relative but not a relatives are intelligent. :D :p

[King Cobra]

fyterdog, I think if you take another sip of your koolaid mix you might come up with another avatar idea: PINK ELEPHANTS! :eek:

And I am happy to see that your caps key is still being used often:

" I HAVE THE FIRST UNMARKED TAR ON MACRUMORS!"

CONGRATULATIONS! :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Sort of how intelligence is relative but not a relatives are intelligent. :D :p




hey look a pink elephant!

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
fyterdog, I think if you take another sip of your koolaid mix you might come up with another avatar idea: PINK ELEPHANTS! :eek:

And I am happy to see that your caps key is still being used often:

" I HAVE THE FIRST UNMARKED TAR ON MACRUMORS!"

CONGRATULATIONS! :cool:


yes sir! look at me... im kick as*


(orange county movie mixture)

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by krossfyter
hey look a pink elephant!

Really? Did it have a really big smile and no pupils? :D

Let me guess...it's date is a drunk alien! :eek: :cool:

[King Cobra]

Hey, Alpha, we're all in the family with relatives...unfortunately one of use chose to drink and dream about pink elephants. :eek:

Damnit, fyter, why are you posting a minute or so after I post something? Are you still dumbfounded by Captain Bringdown? :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra


Really? Did it have a really big smile and no pupils? :D

Let me guess...it's date is a drunk alien! :eek: :cool:


your as slick as a snake.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Hey, Alpha, we're all in the family with relatives...unfortunately one of use chose to drink and dream about pink elephants. :eek:

Damnit, fyter, why are you posting a minute or so after I post something? Are you still dumbfounded by Captain Bringdown? :cool:


captian who?

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by krossfyter
your as slick as a snake.

I appreciate it. Now what an original comment! :D

Just FYI, I wasn't able to continue posting last night because we got jacked with some dangerous thunder, and we usually get d!!!!! with the heavy stuff. :cool:

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by fyterdog

captian who?

Gelfin. He was being real and trying to get us out of talking about how real we THINK these photos are.

But, since he is cuurently not watching (I think) post some more hypnotic pics, if you don't mind! :cool:

[krossfyter]

it thunders in new jersey? heh.

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by fyterdog (BTW, lay off the java, it gives you too much caffine)
it thunders in new jersey? heh.

Yeah. We get some big time storms here, but I've never seen a tornado up close. I've been around it all: snow, sleet, earthquake :D rain, heavy rain, storms, tropical storms, maybe a hurricane, even ice stones. But I haven't seen a tornado up close. Just as long as no one gets hurt it would be cool.

Especially in my area we just get p!!sed on by the clouds like !!! !!! !!!!!!! :eek: :cool:

[krossfyter]

okay man. watch out for them unmarked helicopters.

[King Cobra]

I think they got to me already. They souldn't come back for another 2 years. :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
I think they got to me already. They souldn't come back for another 2 years. :cool:


are you engaged with hamas and hezzbollah?

[King Cobra]

Oh, man. It was too long ago for me to remember. Who are those guys again?

[krossfyter]

the real crux of the matter is how does this affect the children?

[King Cobra]

I think the children like to get drunk using sour koolaid and dream of pink elephants! :eek: :cool:

[krossfyter]

they sure do. i taught them.

i stand as the manifested equivalent of 3 buckets of water when turned upside down it supplies the reprucussive factor of forever.

[King Cobra]

Wait. Three buckets upside down is reprecussive? I thought it was reproductive. Otherwise you woudln't have sprouted these children to grow your way! :D

I don't see exactly where this is going, fyterdog. :cool:

[krossfyter]

think outside the box king cobra.

:p

[King Cobra]

So does this make you a life giver? Because (I was afraid to post this) if you give life then no way will flowers ever want to blossom when spring comes around! :D

Hey, Alpha, can we get your opinion on this? :D :cool:

[AlphaTech]

I think you are both f*cked in the head for going on like that... :p :D

[King Cobra]

That's all I needed to hear. Now I feel happy again, as I was dying to know! :D :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
I think you are both f*cked in the head for going on like that... :p :D


why thank you.:D

[King Cobra]

What a great guy you are. You stick up for us by saying how truly f*cked we are. And we are damn proud of it! :D

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by krossfyter
why thank you.:D

Bubba, it's NOT a compliment. :p :cool:

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Bubba, it's NOT a compliment. :p :cool:


well to me it is. thats what matters.

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by King Cobra
What a great guy you are. You stick up for us by saying how truly f*cked we are. And we are damn proud of it! :D

he really is a great guy. very very kind.

[King Cobra]

You tell 'em, fyterdog.

BTW, Alpha, you made our day (for me, that would be both yesterday and today! :D)

:cool:

[krossfyter]

heck ya! alpha made my day also. nothing better than some alpha from macrumors to put a smile on you face. hes a special guy.

[krossfyter]

...

[King Cobra]

I'm not too sure about you, fyterdog, but this is special for me. First he called me Lieutenant, then he called me a freak, and now he calls me f*cked up there.

I think we need to have a ceremony or some party for him, just because he's such a character. Alpha, you up for it! :D :cool:

[King Cobra]

This is not a quote, but rather a response to fyterdogs position about a cat...

WTH? That photo is just wacked! I like it!

Wait, I like that photo? You've turned me into a psycho!! :D :D

Well, Alpha, would you like a ceremony?

[krossfyter]

you are already a psycho man!;)