Why r most songs a buck 25 now ?

[semin28]

What gives ? What happen to the .99 songs ? I'm thinking about going back to limewire if they're gonna charge fricken 1.25 for a song .

[smurfjammer]

They introduced variable pricing when they renewed with the record companies (the record companies set the pricing).

[Tallest Skil]

What gives ? What happen to the .99 songs ? I'm thinking about going back to limewire if they're gonna charge fricken 1.25 for a song .

Limewire has always been worthless, and it is illegal.

If you had done any research at all, you would know that songs are now 1.29, .99, and .69.

[iSaygoodbye]

Limewire has always been worthless, and it is illegal.

If you had done any research at all, you would know that songs are now 1.29, .99, and .69.


who cares?
What gives ? What happen to the .99 songs ? I'm thinking about going back to limewire if they're gonna charge fricken 1.25 for a song .

they charge a extra tax to people who spell are "r"

[Music_Producer]

who cares?




I don't know.. maybe people who make music for a living? :rolleyes:

[bozz2006]

do like me, and buy the whole album.

[theLimit]

do like me, and buy the whole album.

Or better yet, buy the whole album directly from the artist! Bypass the record companies and put food into the mouths of those who put music into your ears.

[jav6454]

What gives ? What happen to the .99 songs ? I'm thinking about going back to limewire if they're gonna charge fricken 1.25 for a song .

Go ahead, let's see how long you last without a trojan.

[DarthTreydor]

Maybe you should stop listening to the latest in radio pop garbage, which is what's usually priced at $1.25.

[Tallest Skil]

who cares?

Heaven forbid you ever make any intellectual property, though with that response, I can't imagine it happening.

[jav6454]

who cares?

I want to see you say something if you ever become an artist of sorts... then again, your chances to becoming an artist are next to nil.

[JonHimself]

I want to see you say something if you ever become an artist of sorts... then again, your chances to becoming an artist are next to nil.

This is where (because it's the internet and you don't have to prove anything) someone will come back and say "yeah well i'm an artist and i don't care, i do it for the art not they money" blah blah blah... and then that person will go over to the macbook pro forms and say that they regularly fly trans-atlantic and need a 17" pro laptop to edit their HD films/RAW photos at every waking moment and need the removable battery

[nick9191]

If I can't get what I want for the price I want to pay, I'll steal it instead.

Nice philosophy.

[sbking]

If I can't get what I want for the price I want to pay, I'll steal it instead.

Nice philosophy.Except it isn't stealing. You're just taking a copy. They didn't lose anything, and I read somewhere that people who pirate buy more music than those who don't. Thanks to this "stealing" I bought 3 albums already, due to the fact that I liked the songs.

I mean, if there was technology that could copy cars would you ever buy a car again? ;x

And lol at you guys insulting the guy who said "who cares" because that's what most people think really. He's just being honest.

[JonHimself]

..I mean, if there was technology that could copy cars would you ever buy a car again? ;x ..

but then the auto industry would go bankru... oh wait.

While you're (I guess) technically correct about it not being "stealing" because it's just a copy, it still is possesing ownership of something that you have not paid for, and in that regard it is stealing - think renting a DVD then copying it and keeping a copy. It's just a copy so nothing is lost, as you said, BUT you now own something that you *should* have to pay for in order to own.

I'm on the fence with all of this, I steal tv shows/movies (also buy, but download too) but refuse to steal music.. hypocritical I know. I hear both arguments but can never understand why people who do download copyrighted material try to justify it. I would rather them make their argument and just accept that what they're doing is stealing but they just don't care. It would seem more intelligent to admit that rather than trying to justify what they're doing as not stealing.

[sbking]

Well it wasn't my intention to justify it. It's wrong but I don't think it's stealing either ;x more like keeping an illegal copy. Ok it's the same I guess, but when I think of stealing, I'm thinking of actually depriving someone.

[Tallest Skil]

Except it isn't stealing. You're just taking a copy.

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/61fps/2009/01/facepalm.jpg

I mean, if there was technology that could copy cars would you ever buy a car again? ;x

NO CARS WOULD EVER BE MADE AGAIN. There would be no point in innovation and change because you wouldn't be rewarded for your work.

There's a technology that can copy MONEY. It's called a PRINTING PRESS.

Why don't we all go buy money printers and be infinitely rich?

OH, WAIT. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

[sbking]

Well I can't copy money:(And I'm sure the ones that regulate money pressing won't print too much money lol.

And I know there wouldn't be any innovation but if I could copy a ferrari.. ^_^

But I'm getting off topic now so I'd better leave this thread alone :|

[Tomorrow]

Or better yet, buy the whole album directly from the artist! Bypass the record companies and put food into the mouths of those who put music into your ears.

This only works if the artist owns their own label. The record label owns the recordings, whether you download it from iTunes or from the artist - the label still gets the money. It just turns out that the artist owns the label in your case.

[nick9191]

Except it isn't stealing. You're just taking a copy. They didn't lose anything, and I read somewhere that people who pirate buy more music than those who don't. Thanks to this "stealing" I bought 3 albums already, due to the fact that I liked the songs.

I mean, if there was technology that could copy cars would you ever buy a car again? ;x

And lol at you guys insulting the guy who said "who cares" because that's what most people think really. He's just being honest.

It's stealing because you are using something without paying for it. By law, it is stealing, regardless of how you wish to classify it. If people want to steal, fine, I can't stop it. But man up and admit your stealing instead of trying to talk yourself into believing your not.

Tallest Skill has covered the rest of your post.

[sbking]

It's stealing because you are using something without paying for it. By law, it is stealing, regardless of how you wish to classify it. If people want to steal, fine, I can't stop it. But man up and admit your stealing instead of trying to talk yourself into believing your not.

Tallest Skill has covered the rest of your post.I live in the Netherlands, and it's legal here to download copyrighted songs/videos as long as you don't distribute it (unless the law has changed, I'm not too sure, sorry). And in no way was I trying to justify it, I was just saying it wasn't stealing. I probably should've said I don't think it's stealing. Ok the law says it's stealing, too bad.

edit: It seems like most people here are anti piracy, so it's a futile to discuss this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/RIAA_logo.png

[iSaygoodbye]

yeah.im most definetly not gonna be a artist cause im tone deaf.The reason i dont pay for music is because otherwise,i wouldnt buy and i wouldnt get the wrod out on how awesome it is.free advertising for the band

[jessica.]

Really? Really! I've seen oldies priced at $1.29 fwiw. It's not all bubblegum BS pop that is priced that high. :rolleyes:

[Michael CM1]

Except it isn't stealing. You're just taking a copy. They didn't lose anything, and I read somewhere that people who pirate buy more music than those who don't. Thanks to this "stealing" I bought 3 albums already, due to the fact that I liked the songs.

I mean, if there was technology that could copy cars would you ever buy a car again? ;x

And lol at you guys insulting the guy who said "who cares" because that's what most people think really. He's just being honest.

You should run for Congress. "You're just making a copy." A million LOLs to you for that remark. Whoever is involved lost their cut of the $1.29 or $.99 you would've spent on a song.

Also, "just being honest" doesn't mean something isn't utterly stupid. If someone thinks rape is OK (I had a roommate in college that said that to a girl), does that make it all fine because he was being honest? Nooooooo.

[NoSmokingBandit]

By law, it is stealing, regardless of how you wish to classify it.t.

Its not stealing, no matter how you classify it. Its copyright infringement.

[iStudentUK]

Yes its illegal to get music from limewire etc but most people don't care about ripping off music labels. Its an offense most don't feel guilty about. People also know that you are not going to get prosecuted unless you distribute the material yourself.

I've never downloaded music illegally, partly due to trojans etc, but do I occasionally borrow a friend's CD and rip it to itunes...? ;)

[bajee]

regarding video stealing ...

How about people who own VCRs ? They record video shows from their TV (antena or cable), so would that make it illegal? Then they should sued. Sony, Toshiba and other major brands that make VCRs.

They should also sue Microsoft for making windows media server, where you can actually record those TV shows realtime.

If a tv show/movie is publicly available, then I don't think its illegal to have a copy to yourself.

I also think that as long as you don't earn something from it then it's legal.

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bout the music sharing, it depends on what country you live in. There are different laws, not all people here are from the US you know :)

From Wikipedia:

Sharing copied music is legal in many countries, such as Canada (downloading only),[8][9] and parts of Europe, provided that the songs are not sold.

[filman408]

Its not stealing, no matter how you classify it. Its copyright infringement.

Steal = taking (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return. the songs are technically the property of the artists and company, we are just given a license to play them back when we purchase them. if we BOUGHT the full rights to a song outright, it would cost MUCH more then a buck or two.

Copyright infringement = the unauthorized use of material that is covered by copyright law, in a manner that violates one of the copyright owner's exclusive rights

So getting a song from limewire and then putting it in a movie you make (especially if you sell or exhibit it) is both stealing and copyright infringement. They are different terms but both are bad actions.

Imagine if you spend years making a product or song, then thousands of people stole it without paying you. Would that tick you off? Stealing a song is no different then stealing from a store. Online is just a different store front. The reason we have DRM in the first place is because people started stealing stuff. If people had been honest, we probably would be in a different place now. When you steal a song, you are hurting the artist as well, but just the company.

[Tallest Skil]

How about people who own VCRs ? They record video shows from their TV (antena or cable), so would that make it illegal? Then they should sued. Sony, Toshiba and other major brands that make VCRs.

Nope. Television shows are public domain and legal for such recording. Hence, DVRs. That is legal. Recording television shows is legal.

They should also sue Microsoft for making windows media server, where you can actually record those TV shows realtime.

Again, it's legal.

If a tv show/movie is publicly available, then I don't think its illegal to have a copy to yourself.

Yep. Public domain is nice!

[maxrobertson]

This is where (because it's the internet and you don't have to prove anything) someone will come back and say "yeah well i'm an artist and i don't care, i do it for the art not they money" blah blah blah... and then that person will go over to the macbook pro forms and say that they regularly fly trans-atlantic and need a 17" pro laptop to edit their HD films/RAW photos at every waking moment and need the removable battery

You do realize that none of that extra money is going to the artist, right? It's going to the record label. And since these overpriced songs sell much less than the 99 cent ones did, the artist is making MUCH less money than before.

[maxrobertson]

Nope. Television shows are public domain and legal for such recording. Hence, DVRs. That is legal. Recording television shows is legal.

Again, it's legal.

Yep. Public domain is nice!

Television shows are NOT public domain. You have no idea what you're talking about. It is considered fair use to record a television show to watch later.

[Tallest Skil]

Television shows are NOT public domain. You have no idea what you're talking about. It is considered fair use to record a television show to watch later.

Same thing. They're free to own. Slightly differing definitions, but the show is able to be recorded and reviewed.

[Sehnsucht]

This is where (because it's the internet and you don't have to prove anything) someone will come back and say "yeah well i'm an artist and i don't care, i do it for the art not they money" blah blah blah... and then that person will go over to the macbook pro forms and say that they regularly fly trans-atlantic and need a 17" pro laptop to edit their HD films/RAW photos at every waking moment and need the removable battery

Hahahahahahaha... :D :D

Like most of you, I had a look at this thread simply because of the title. :p

[jake921660]

Go ahead, let's see how long you last without a trojan.

I have used Limewire/Frostwire for at least 3 or 4 years now and the only time Ive ever had a trojan on my computer was when my father opened up a malicious email.

If you you Limewire properly viruses are not a problem.

[Tallest Skil]

I have used Limewire/Frostwire for at least 3 or 4 years now and the only time Ive ever had a trojan on my computer was when my father opened up a malicious email.

If you you Limewire properly viruses are not a problem.

Exactly... because trojans are not viruses and OS X has no viruses.

[bradenwh]

Trojans from Limewire? Maybe if you were trying to download pirated apps.
Downloading songs? I don't think so.
OS X will recognize an app even if it's disguised as an .mp3. Obviously, if you attempt to play an .mp3 and it asks you for you password, there's something wrong, and you should delete it. But you can't get a trojan from a normal .mp3.

Not being stupid protects you from trojans.