[pic] This is why iPhone is BETTER than Palm Pre

[peteryan7hao]

http://www.peteryan.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/picture-40.jpg

[dontwalkhand]

Even though I use an iPhone, no, that does not mean anything, it just means the iPhone is more popular

[paulsalter]

Is this for the original iPhone or the 3g ?

compare pictures of original iPhone to Pre launch
compare pictures of 3g to Pre (I assume this is what you did)
what about the new iPhone launch

This looks a lot like using stats, pick the ones you want to prove a point and ignore everything else

[gloss]

Just to play Devil's Advocate, you see Britney Spears shows sell out thousands of seats too, but I'd much rather catch Deerhoof in a small venue. :)

[iWork]

This is meaningless.

If you were expecting lines similar to those of Apple Stores on launch date of iPhone you need to re-think the Pre/iPhone/SmartPhone matrix. Furthermore, Pre marketing has intentionally been minimal because of low supply.

No company, whether it be Palm, RIM, Nokia, etc. can garner the attention Apple receives.

[dukebound85]

i would think the smaller line wold mean better lol

[peteryan7hao]

Is this for the original iPhone or the 3g ?


Original iPhone launch 30.06.07

Wanna see the 3G launch? LOL

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2655798904_7d4993b443.jpg

[paulsalter]

Original iPhone launch 30.06.07

Wanna see the 3G launch? LOL



Cool

I could go and take a picture outside my local o2 shop today and it would have about as many people as launch day :eek:

[celtikmind]

If going by sheer numbers is an account of quality, by your saying, then Microsoft would have the better OS, no? :rolleyes:

And a million flies can't be wrong, eat... ;)

This is just dumb iPhone fandom.

[ryant601]

albeit popularity doesnt mean a phone is better or worse, generally, if people are willing to buy something...in very large quantities (iphone), a company would be more willing to invest more into the product. Hence apples 3 versions of their phone, on the brink of their fourth. and other companies dont offer the massive firmware updates we as apple users get.

popoularity can ultimately determine whether a phone is better.

whoever gave the analogy of music, that's completely unrelated.

[nfl46]

HAHA! Don't try and pull that "Oh, the iPhone is popular", today is Palm Pre's Day, they had to same opportunity to get HUGE crowds like the iPhone, and they didn't. Simple as that.

[iWork]

Popularity and sales is indeed important.

However, if we rely solely on sales as a measurement of what is "better", then Windows would triumph Mac.

While one can easily list areas where the iPhone upstages Pre, the pictures in this thread aren't good metrics.

[machacker]

If going by sheer numbers is an account of quality, by your saying, then Microsoft would have the better OS, no? :rolleyes:

And a million flies can't be wrong, eat... ;)

This is just dumb iPhone fandom.

Of course it is iPhone fandom. This is a Mac forum, and more specifically an iPhone forum. We all love our phones, I would say hardly any of us come on here to complain about our iPhones.

Thats why we post things like this, because we get to have a good laugh and smile about the phones in our pockets.

I hardly think the OP was trying to say that it means something, I think it was more an attempt at humor while we are all waiting for Monday morning.

[iWork]

Of course it is iPhone fandom. This is a Mac forum, and more specifically an iPhone forum. We all love our phones, I would say hardly any of us come on here to complain about our iPhones.

Thats why we post things like this, because we get to have a good laugh and smile about the phones in our pockets.

I hardly think the OP was trying to say that it means something, I think it was more an attempt at humor while we are all waiting for Monday morning.

Good point. I'll take it easy. Maybe I'll laugh.

[fratboy]

yeah i know if you dont want so much apple/iphone fandom DONT come to a mac/iphone forum thats just asking for it..

its like me going to a blackberry forum and saying why dont you guys like the iphone ..

i dont go to a blackberry forum and expect them to love the iphone so .. dont come to an iphone forum and expect us to love the pre.. ITS ALLL ABOUTT THE IPHONE BABYYYYYYY

[ryant601]

ah, back to the fanboyism. gotta love it!

LONG LIVE THE iPHONE!

oh, and our mac's too :)

[rdowns]

Hence apples 3 versions of their phone, on the brink of their fourth.


Have I missed a model? :confused:

[jessica.]

Have I missed a model? :confused:

Didn't you know that the black and white versions of the 3G model count for 2 models? :p

[thetexan]

My experience with AT&T / iPhone 3G Launch.

-Get in line, wait in the hot sun outside
-A few hours later, the doors open and a few people go in. Nobody has any idea what is going on because no AT&T reps will talk to us
-Waiting still. Taking long apparently because Apple got stupid and released 2.0 and MobileMe the same day.
-Still waiting! It's hot outside! Nobody has talked to us yet. At least the people around in line are nice.
-Finally a few more people go into the store!
-Waiting still, should it take this long to sell phones?
-A few more people go in!
-After about two more hours of waiting, we hear from an AT&T employee for the first time! Yay! Oh, wait, they're sold out?!?

Summary: Rude AT&T reps, never had any idea what was going on. AT&T didn't count inventory and compare that to people waiting in line, they just let us wait outside for no reason.

Here's my experience getting the Pre this morning:

-Roll up 30 minutes before opening, I'm about #20 in line. I'm scared because the memories of AT&T's days are well in my head.
-In about 10 minutes the Sprint store manager comes out. She brings us bottled water and breakfast snacks. She also brings out chairs for a few customers.
-20 minutes later, right before opening, manager comes back out. She's super polite and not bad on the eyes either. She hands out tickets, if you get a ticket you get a Pre. Takes trash and lets half the line in.
-Wait in the store for the sales reps to ring up the first batch. Inside there are donuts, more refreshments, and another manager is demoing the phone/accessories to people waiting in line.
-I buy the phone.


FU AT&T. I really liked my iPhone, I think it's a fantastic device and I know it has some advantages to my Pre. Also after playing with the Pre for 20 minutes I think it will have some advantages over the iPhone. Either way, AT&T will never see another dime of my money.

[peteryan7hao]

Didn't you know that the black and white versions of the 3G model count for 2 models? :p

Alum back:

4GB
8GB

Black Plastic:

8GB
16GB

White Plastic
16GB

so we are expecting the 6th and 7th?

[jessica.]

Alum back:

4GB
8GB

Black Plastic:

8GB
16GB

White Plastic
16GB

so we are expecting the 6th and 7th?

Son you need to read. Someone said there were 3 models and Apple was on their 4th. Another user asked if he missed a model and I (voicing sarcasm) said what I said.
Clearly sarcasm is lost on you if it lacks any troll-pic. ;)

[peteryan7hao]

My experience with AT&T / iPhone 3G Launch.

-Get in line, wait in the hot sun outside
-A few hours later, the doors open and a few people go in. Nobody has any idea what is going on because no AT&T reps will talk to us
-Waiting still. Taking long apparently because Apple got stupid and released 2.0 and MobileMe the same day.
-Still waiting! It's hot outside! Nobody has talked to us yet. At least the people around in line are nice.
-Finally a few more people go into the store!
-Waiting still, should it take this long to sell phones?
-A few more people go in!
-After about two more hours of waiting, we hear from an AT&T employee for the first time! Yay! Oh, wait, they're sold out?!?

Summary: Rude AT&T reps, never had any idea what was going on. AT&T didn't count inventory and compare that to people waiting in line, they just let us wait outside for no reason.

Here's my experience getting the Pre this morning:

-Roll up 30 minutes before opening, I'm about #20 in line. I'm scared because the memories of AT&T's days are well in my head.
-In about 10 minutes the Sprint store manager comes out. She brings us bottled water and breakfast snacks. She also brings out chairs for a few customers.
-20 minutes later, right before opening, manager comes back out. She's super polite and not bad on the eyes either. She hands out tickets, if you get a ticket you get a Pre. Takes trash and lets half the line in.
-Wait in the store for the sales reps to ring up the first batch. Inside there are donuts, more refreshments, and another manager is demoing the phone/accessories to people waiting in line.
-I buy the phone.


FU AT&T. I really liked my iPhone, I think it's a fantastic device and I know it has some advantages to my Pre. Also after playing with the Pre for 20 minutes I think it will have some advantages over the iPhone. Either way, AT&T will never see another dime of my money.

Nice story MacRumors Newbie.

Or should I call Mr. Sprint?

Son you need to read. Someone said there were 3 models and Apple was on their 4th. Another user asked if he missed a model and I (voicing sarcasm) said what I said.
Clearly sarcasm is lost on you if it lacks any troll-pic. ;)

Daughter, you need to read and have an open mind, so you don't grow up weird. :)

[jessica.]

Nice story MacRumors Newbie.

Or should I call Mr. Sprint?

He is right on every count and you were once a newbie too, it's been a long road of posting fanboi pics and voicing your "all hail Apple" opinion, but you were once a newbie. Lay off the guy ... he is absolutely correct.


Daughter, you need to read and have an open mind, so you don't grow up weird. :)

Wow, pot meet kettle. :D

[matttye]

If going by sheer numbers is an account of quality, by your saying, then Microsoft would have the better OS, no? :rolleyes:

And a million flies can't be wrong, eat... ;)

This is just dumb iPhone fandom.

Microsoft does have the better OS :D

[peteryan7hao]

He is right on every count and you were once a newbie too, it's been a long road of posting fanboi pics and voicing your "all hail Apple" opinion, but you were once a newbie. Lay off the guy ... he is absolutely correct.



I was once a PC

[rablat]

Alum back:

4GB
8GB

Black Plastic:

8GB
16GB

White Plastic
16GB

so we are expecting the 6th and 7th?

You forgot the 16GB alum back.
But, we are still only on the 2nd generation, and coming up on the 3rd.

[GeekLawyer]

Photos like these are why people call us smug. :cool: Which is fine with me, personally.

[williamgallas10]

http://www.peteryan.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/picture-40.jpg

I hope you are not an adult because your train of thought is so childish.

[beg_ne]

Of course in general popularity doesn't always mean quality.

Although I dare anyone here to claim the iPhone isn't a very good quality product.

The fact that only 11 or so people were willing to line up for the Pre says a lot about consumer confidence in that product so far. Especially coming from an established and at least one time respected company.

I also guess just because you're selling Apple-lite doesn't guarantee many people will bite.

[peteryan7hao]

I hope you are not an adult because your train of thought is so childish.

Did you sign up just to call me Childish? Awww

[paulsalter]

Although I dare anyone here to claim the iPhone isn't a very good quality product.



Cant resist a dare

The iPhone isn't a very good product :p





Joke, before any one pounces on me :o

[GeekLawyer]

Microsoft does have the better OS :D

Oh, boy. Here we go...

[matttye]

Of course in general popularity doesn't always mean quality.

Although I dare anyone here to claim the iPhone isn't a very good quality product.

The fact that only 11 or so people were willing to line up for the Pre says a lot about consumer confidence in that product so far. Especially coming from an established and at least one time respected company.

I also guess just because you're selling Apple-lite doesn't guarantee many people will bite.

Very good product as a whole but as a phone it's dire.

- Constant dropped calls.
- Bad signal.
- Terrible speakers so you cannot hear the phone ring with background noise or if it's in another room, etc.
- Cannot speak on the phone with background noise because ear speaker is also terrible.
- No SMS forwarding yet.
- No draft support.
- No character counter so you can see how many SMS units you will use per message.
- Cannot delete individual messages/call logs.
- No MMS support.
- No video calling.

failphone

[OllyW]

As I also posted in another thread, not all phone launches have massive crowds....

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[Mengels7]

As I also posted in another thread, not all phone launches have massive crowds....

174333

And what time did you take that picture relative to when the line filled up? :p

It's just that I know the Apple stores are spread out enough that I'm sure they all had pretty decent lines. My store here had a ridiculous line throughout the entire day of the 3G launch.

[peteryan7hao]

As I also posted in another thread, not all phone launches have massive crowds....

174333

Oh look! 10 people are waiting in line to buy the New GAP shirt!





Joking...
I wanna go to the UK :p

[GeekLawyer]

And what time did you take that picture relative to when the line filled up? :p

It's just that I know the Apple stores are spread out enough that I'm sure they all had pretty decent lines. My store here had a ridiculous line throughout the entire day of the 3G launch.

I bought my iPhone at an AT&T Store (I know, the shame...) and the lines at that little store tucked INSIDE a crappy grocery store (in Jacksonville, Florida) was longer than the line shown in Manhattan. Everything is relative.

[lostprophet894]

Very good product as a whole but as a phone it's dire.

- Constant dropped calls.
- Bad signal.
- Terrible speakers so you cannot hear the phone ring with background noise or if it's in another room, etc.
- Cannot speak on the phone with background noise because ear speaker is also terrible.
- No SMS forwarding yet.
- No draft support.
- No character counter so you can see how many SMS units you will use per message.
- Cannot delete individual messages/call logs.
- No MMS support.
- No video calling.

failphone

Are you referring to the Pre or the iPhone?

The fact that you're a member of this forum makes me think you would probably know that several these gripes are resolved with the firmware update coming this month. Unless of course you come here to complain and degrade rather than read and learn.

[beg_ne]

Very good product as a whole but as a phone it's dire.

- Constant dropped calls.
- Bad signal.
- Terrible speakers so you cannot hear the phone ring with background noise or if it's in another room, etc.
- Cannot speak on the phone with background noise because ear speaker is also terrible.
- No SMS forwarding yet.
- No draft support.
- No character counter so you can see how many SMS units you will use per message.
- Cannot delete individual messages/call logs.
- No MMS support.
- No video calling.

failphone


You forgot to mention that it doesn't do your laundry also.

[peteryan7hao]

Very good product as a whole but as a phone it's dire.

- Constant dropped calls.
- Bad signal.
- Terrible speakers so you cannot hear the phone ring with background noise or if it's in another room, etc.
- Cannot speak on the phone with background noise because ear speaker is also terrible.
- No SMS forwarding yet.
- No draft support.
- No character counter so you can see how many SMS units you will use per message.
- Cannot delete individual messages/call logs.
- No MMS support.
- No video calling.

failphone


Because its NOT a phone, its an iPhone!!!

Apple reinvented the PHONE!!!!

[fratboy]

Very good product as a whole but as a phone it's dire.

- Constant dropped calls.
- Bad signal.
- Terrible speakers so you cannot hear the phone ring with background noise or if it's in another room, etc.
- Cannot speak on the phone with background noise because ear speaker is also terrible.
- No SMS forwarding yet.
- No draft support.
- No character counter so you can see how many SMS units you will use per message.
- Cannot delete individual messages/call logs.
- No MMS support.
- No video calling.

failphone

if your seriously saying the iphone is FAILphone you are completely wrong.. obviously you havent seen the sales #s of the iphone and.. the overwhelming amount of people that love it.

[robothero]

I've never had a dropped call.

[matttye]

Are you referring to the Pre or the iPhone?

The fact that you're a member of this forum makes me think you would probably know that most of these gripes are resolved with the firmware update coming this month. Unless of course you come here to complain and degrade rather than read and learn.

I know SMS forwarding, deleting individual texts, and MMS support is coming in the next firmware update. I wouldn't call that "most of" those gripes. In fact, the speaker issue cannot be resolved without a hardware update.

Does it really take 2 years to implement something as simple as forwarding a text message?

You forgot to mention that it doesn't do your laundry also.

A phone should work well as a phone. It's hardly an unreasonable want.

[GeekLawyer]

I've never had a dropped call.

Me neither -- but a lot of that is tied to the network quality wherever you're making the call from. I've never had a problem in any of the major cities of Florida.

[peteryan7hao]

Does it really take 2 years to implement something as simple as forwarding a text message?



I'm sorry but it took Motorola 20 years to work that out :)

[matttye]

if your seriously saying the iphone is FAILphone you are completely wrong.. obviously you havent seen the sales #s of the iphone and.. the overwhelming amount of people that love it.

I am saying it's not a good PHONE. It's an amazing multimedia/internet device, but the phone is not that good.

I had a 1st gen iPhone for over a year and trying to talk on it was a nightmare. I would also sometimes not receive my text messages until like an hour after they were sent.

[OllyW]

And what time did you take that picture relative to when the line filled up? :p

It's just that I know the Apple stores are spread out enough that I'm sure they all had pretty decent lines. My store here had a ridiculous line throughout the entire day of the 3G launch.

That was less than 15 minutes before opening. I was 12th in line, there were about 5 people behind me when it opened.

There were more members of staff lined up to welcome us in. :)

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[matttye]

Me neither -- but a lot of that is tied to the network quality wherever you're making the call from. I've never had a problem in any of the major cities of Florida.

I was using my unlocked iPhone on O2 PAYG. I'm using my new 5800xm on the same network but don't have any of the problems I did on my old phone.

Maybe I was just unlucky enough to get a faulty device (although I have seen a LOT of reports about dropped calls), but I would sometimes have to call someone back up to 5 times just to finish a conversation because the phone kept dropping calls.

I'm sorry but it took Motorola 20 years to work that out :)

Yes, but I bet motorola weren't touting their phones as smartphones back then :D

[lostprophet894]

I know SMS forwarding, deleting individual texts, and MMS support is coming in the next firmware update. I wouldn't call that "most of" those gripes. In fact, the speaker issue cannot be resolved without a hardware update.

What speaker issue? Maybe you need to get a new ringtone because I have mine at half volume and it still scares the **** outta me every time it goes off. It can also be heard from my living room/kitchen when it's charging in my upstairs bedroom.

[Mengels7]

That was less than 15 minutes before opening. I was 12th in line, there were about 5 people behind me when it opened.

There were more members of staff lined up to welcome us in. :)

174334

Ohh you're in England. Doesn't count. :p I like to assume you're all not crazy enough to go line up for a phone.

[matttye]

What speaker issue? Maybe you need to get a new ringtone because I have mine at half volume and it still scares the **** outta me every time it goes off. It can also be heard from my living room/kitchen when it's charging in my upstairs bedroom.

When I had an iPhone I used to use marimba. I had it at full volume and I could not even hear it on the train or if there was traffic. I did try other ringtones including UK hardcore music (which includes bassdrums) so it was definitely not just the ringtone.

[Mengels7]

When I had an iPhone I used to use marimba. I had it at full volume and I could not even hear it on the train or if there was traffic. I did try other ringtones including UK hardcore music (which includes bassdrums) so it was definitely not just the ringtone.

I agree the speaker blows, but a solution could be to make a custom ringtone and jack the volume level of the actual audio file up to account for the iPhone's lack.

[OllyW]

Ohh you're in England. Doesn't count. :p I like to assume you're all not crazy enough to go line up for a phone.

There were big queues there on the day Leopard was launched and a massive crowd (over a thousand) on the evening the store opened (which was also the same day as the Tiger launch).

I guess it needs the chance of a free T-shirt to get us Midlanders excited. :D

[celtikmind]

Are you referring to the Pre or the iPhone?

The fact that you're a member of this forum makes me think you would probably know that several these gripes are resolved with the firmware update coming this month. Unless of course you come here to complain and degrade rather than read and learn.

It ain't released yet so I'm not holding my breath though it will be good if it indeed does. God knows how often I get the feeling my iPhone is just another toy beneath all that glossy finish.

[celtikmind]

Oh, boy. Here we go...

I'm sorry but he did serve it on a silver platter... :p

As to whether it's good or not - each to his own. Personally I'm not saying either.

[clevin]

I have the Pre in my hand, let me tell ya.

enjoy your sorry spiritual twisted joy as you want. I have real joy in my hand, and this pair hand holds iPT and iPhone before.

keep on dreaming you.:p

[GeekLawyer]

I have the Pre in my hand, let me tell ya.

enjoy your sorry spiritual twisted joy as you want. I have real joy in my hand, and this pair hand holds iPT and iPhone before.

keep on dreaming you.:p

I'd like to play around with a Pre. Glad you're enjoying your purchase!

[gloss]

When I had an iPhone I used to use marimba. I had it at full volume and I could not even hear it on the train or if there was traffic. I did try other ringtones including UK hardcore music (which includes bassdrums) so it was definitely not just the ringtone.

The 3G, I'm told, has a much louder speaker and better call quality in general.

[peteryan7hao]

I have the Pre in my hand, let me tell ya.

enjoy your sorry spiritual twisted joy as you want. I have real joy in my hand, and this pair hand holds iPT and iPhone before.

keep on dreaming you.:p

Good on ya.

You will get bored after 10 days I can guarantee :)

It's all about apps mate, apps!

[Pared]

I have the Pre in my hand, let me tell ya.

enjoy your sorry spiritual twisted joy as you want. I have real joy in my hand, and this pair hand holds iPT and iPhone before.

keep on dreaming you.:p

It's so cool you had to come on MacRumors to tell everyone just how cool it is! :p

[matttye]

The 3G, I'm told, has a much louder speaker and better call quality in general.

I played with a 3G in my O2 store and my mum's friend also has one. Although much much better than the 1st gen iPhone, the 3g's speaker is still not up to par. Go and listen to almost any other phone - the speakers are very loud.

I put it down to apple being new in the smartphone market and remembering what's really important. Maybe in a couple of revisions time the iPhone will actually be the best phone in the world.

[gloss]

I played with a 3G in my O2 store and my mum's friend also has one. Although much much better than the 1st gen iPhone, the 3g's speaker is still not up to par. Go and listen to almost any other phone - the speakers are very loud.

I put it down to apple being new in the smartphone market and remembering what's really important. Maybe in a couple of revisions time the iPhone will actually be the best phone in the world.

I keep my phones on vibrate unless I'm in the car, so my opinion on the matter's more or less moot. :)

[uiop.]

Nice story MacRumors Newbie.

Or should I call Mr. Sprint?




Uhm you only have 58 more posts...enough e-peen comparing.

[matttye]

Good on ya.

You will get bored after 10 days I can guarantee :)

It's all about apps mate, apps!

The iPhone's not the only phone with apps you know ;)

[Shabbis]

My experience with AT&T / iPhone 3G Launch.

-Get in line, wait in the hot sun outside
-A few hours later, the doors open and a few people go in. Nobody has any idea what is going on because no AT&T reps will talk to us
-Waiting still. Taking long apparently because Apple got stupid and released 2.0 and MobileMe the same day.
-Still waiting! It's hot outside! Nobody has talked to us yet. At least the people around in line are nice.
-Finally a few more people go into the store!
-Waiting still, should it take this long to sell phones?
-A few more people go in!
-After about two more hours of waiting, we hear from an AT&T employee for the first time! Yay! Oh, wait, they're sold out?!?

Summary: Rude AT&T reps, never had any idea what was going on. AT&T didn't count inventory and compare that to people waiting in line, they just let us wait outside for no reason.

Here's my experience getting the Pre this morning:

-Roll up 30 minutes before opening, I'm about #20 in line. I'm scared because the memories of AT&T's days are well in my head.
-In about 10 minutes the Sprint store manager comes out. She brings us bottled water and breakfast snacks. She also brings out chairs for a few customers.
-20 minutes later, right before opening, manager comes back out. She's super polite and not bad on the eyes either. She hands out tickets, if you get a ticket you get a Pre. Takes trash and lets half the line in.
-Wait in the store for the sales reps to ring up the first batch. Inside there are donuts, more refreshments, and another manager is demoing the phone/accessories to people waiting in line.
-I buy the phone.


FU AT&T. I really liked my iPhone, I think it's a fantastic device and I know it has some advantages to my Pre. Also after playing with the Pre for 20 minutes I think it will have some advantages over the iPhone. Either way, AT&T will never see another dime of my money.

Your first mistake was going to an ATT store. My experience on the original iPhone release day:
1. Called my local Apple Store around 11:30 PM to see if they had any 8GBs in stock. Friendly sales person said "we have plenty, we are open until midnight and there is no line anymore".
2. Got in my car, drove to the Apple Store, walked in and purchased an 8GBer.
3. Drove home, plugged it into iTunes for the registration process, was up and running with my new phone in 10 minutes.

[DAMNiatx]

Good on ya.

You will get bored after 10 days I can guarantee :)

It's all about apps mate, apps!

i just want to make sure,
do you have a iphone ?

[AHDuke99]

My experience with AT&T / iPhone 3G Launch.

-Get in line, wait in the hot sun outside
-A few hours later, the doors open and a few people go in. Nobody has any idea what is going on because no AT&T reps will talk to us
-Waiting still. Taking long apparently because Apple got stupid and released 2.0 and MobileMe the same day.
-Still waiting! It's hot outside! Nobody has talked to us yet. At least the people around in line are nice.
-Finally a few more people go into the store!
-Waiting still, should it take this long to sell phones?
-A few more people go in!
-After about two more hours of waiting, we hear from an AT&T employee for the first time! Yay! Oh, wait, they're sold out?!?

Summary: Rude AT&T reps, never had any idea what was going on. AT&T didn't count inventory and compare that to people waiting in line, they just let us wait outside for no reason.

Here's my experience getting the Pre this morning:

-Roll up 30 minutes before opening, I'm about #20 in line. I'm scared because the memories of AT&T's days are well in my head.
-In about 10 minutes the Sprint store manager comes out. She brings us bottled water and breakfast snacks. She also brings out chairs for a few customers.
-20 minutes later, right before opening, manager comes back out. She's super polite and not bad on the eyes either. She hands out tickets, if you get a ticket you get a Pre. Takes trash and lets half the line in.
-Wait in the store for the sales reps to ring up the first batch. Inside there are donuts, more refreshments, and another manager is demoing the phone/accessories to people waiting in line.
-I buy the phone.


FU AT&T. I really liked my iPhone, I think it's a fantastic device and I know it has some advantages to my Pre. Also after playing with the Pre for 20 minutes I think it will have some advantages over the iPhone. Either way, AT&T will never see another dime of my money.

It's easier to provide service like that when you have 30 people in line or so, and not hundreds like Apple and AT&T experience for an iPhone launch. I waiting in line for an iPhone in 07 too, and by the time 6 pm rolled around, we had 200 or more people in line. You can't expect them to provide food and water for all 200 of us. I'm also pretty sure Apple sent a policy down saying they didn't want tickets to be handed out.

[Lenxal]

Good on ya.

You will get bored after 10 days I can guarantee :)

It's all about apps mate, apps!

iphone didn't have apps until a year later and people survived with the iphone still.

[GeekLawyer]

iphone didn't have apps until a year later and people survived with the iphone still.

That's true. They did. Back then. But now they wouldn't. Now people expect a phone in this class to have a thriving App store experience. With an active developer community.

[Steve Jobs=God]

http://www.peteryan.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/picture-40.jpg

I love that the pre image actually has one man and his dog! :p

Still not exactly a way to compare the two handsets