G4 case enclosure photo

[galopagos]

Hello,

I am submitting the picture below to some rumor sites, especially since apple blacklisted you folks. This is a video capture from a cheap panasonic camcorder an apple friend of mine has. It features a 23 inch cinema display next to a g4 that looks slightly different from the normal dual-gig cases. It seems to be more white, and the apple on the side is smaller (kinda looks metallic too).

I am submitting this cause i'd people's opinions on this, if its real or not. the resolution isnt very high (probably due to the pisspoor quality of the walmart-reject panasonic camcorder), and i dont know why the keyboard is missing. other than that, i do not see and photoshopping or other artifacts that would prove it a fake at all.

anyone?

[dongmin]

I don't see anything new about it. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

And the set up looks like some sort of Expo demo station. I doubt it's from the floor of MWNY 2002, since it's still 10 days away, so my guess is that this is just footage from the last Expo.

Or maybe it's from an Apple Store. Either way, I doubt it's anything new. Did your friend say where he got the shot from?

[King Cobra]

Is that how big the 23 inch display really is? Why the :eek: do I still have a lame 20 inch CRT TV? :D

Personally, I wouldn't be able to tell if it was real or not, because of the photo. But since you said it yourself...it's a poor quality shot...I won't trash it that poorly. But I can't tell the difference between the current models and the one described from the photo.

Besides, I am guessing, along with a few other rumor pics that popped up a while back, that IF a new G4 case was coming it would have more of an Xserve tone color to it. :cool:

[galopagos]

I agree that it isnt changed much... and my friend just sent this to my email with "hey you can send this to too many people" type of email.

I dont see the big deal, xserve-style would be cooler than this, but this is a slightly different design. The apple on the dual 800 at my work is the big, dark grey logo. This is much smaller and sninier. The speaker seems to glow, or is white, which would be consistant with current speculation.

Also, i do not see the screws on the four corners of the side of the case. or the handle for opening the case.

I'll try to get more info if my friend isnt already being questioned by the department of apple secutiry ;-)

[King Cobra]

Here is why I don't buy the white speaker rumor.

If you have noticed the line of products for the iBook, iMac and iPod, they are basically white. Notice that they are all part of the "i"-line. If there were white Pro Speakers with a PowerMac, which is not part of the "i"-line of products, then I would think the PowerMac doesn't stand out from the rest of the products.

What I am more interested in seeing are either more powerful speakers, or multiple better speakers.

[kishba]

call me crazy but i do believe this is an authentic photo...

i have a quicksilver in my room and no matter what angle i look at it the speaker doesn't even look like that shade of white and the apple on the side is a bit different (it does look like it's chrome)

the most noticeable difference on this case in the photo is the lack of screws on the sides

i was hoping for some more differences but this seems like a realistic change since the g5 will debut within the next year

i hope steve has some more exciting announcements for :)... this won't be enough for many people

[kishba]

you're also right about the missing handle... it should be on that side... i wonder what's up with that??

[Ensign Paris]

It looks really fake to me, you can see where pshop has been used to get rid of the screws on the side.

[Bradcoe]

The photo is taken of a setup that exists in Apple Retail stores. I've used the Dual 1Ghz next to a 23" LCD and the LCD is on the right of the tower, and they sit on a display/cabinet against the wall like that. The camera either used a whitening of some sorts on the photo, or photoshop/similar program was used to turn silver portions white (hence the speaker is white and the rest of the photo is so bright/white). I'm not saying there won't be a case redesign shown at MWNY 2002, but this isn't one of them.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I think you'll probably find that it's a genuine photo - of an existing Power Mac setup. And this is my reasoning...

Galopagos is right - it's not the best picture in the world, as it's a still from a camcorder image. The "jaggies" are prominent around the edges, meaning it's a low resolution image dump. You would also find that the chroma and black levels of the image are far too high as well, giving that washed-out appearance. If it IS an el-cheapo camcorder (as the picture suggests), then it would also be a single-chip CCD unit, and therefore, the camera does not handle light very well. Since the Mac is sitting on what appears to be a photographic lightbox display, the reflected light from the flouroescent tubes in the table onto the shiny case and metallic parts of the Power Mac case give the impression of a tower with "white" appendages.

Lastly - do you really think that Apple would release a Tower case so similar in design to it's older units?

No - neither do I...

[Zenith]

now, let's take a closer look at that thing: :D

[Durandal7]

I don't think that Apple has ever released that minor an update to the cases. The only case updates that I know of were G3 Blue & White, G4 Graphite and G4 Quicksilver. I really don't think they would even bother with something as minor as described.

[Eliot]

It's not only that. You're right, but I think the real key is that, if the CPU etc upgrades are less than stellar, the casework is going to have to help sell the towers, so it'd likely be far more radical .:(

[jaykk]

Apple has to beat its own Cube for next version.. Its sad that Apple has to rely on case deisgn to sell more systems.. Revive AIM and give us a fast processor or create a new alliance with AMD..

[Grokgod]

Ok, first~ enough with the AMD alliance or go back to your Star Wars world and debate it with Chewbacca!

Second~ No Artifacts ? - That whole picture is one big Artifact!

Oh the rumors are LOW this year,,LOL

[dongmin]

Yeah the rumors are incredibly uninspiring this year. Either Apple's doing a bang-up job squelching potential leaks or people are just bored. Apple definitely needs to spice things up a bit at the MWNY, if only to help the bottom line.

[tjwett]

i think it looks real, whatever it is. it could be from the coming MWNY but i don't know how much they would have setup already. regardless, it looks real and the case does appear to be very different than the current ones. maybe this is some clever piece of disinformation from Apple just to throw us off the scent.

[job]

Originally posted by Zenith
now, let's take a closer look at that thing: :D

Nice. :D :D

[groovebuster]

I guess one thing is almost for sure.

The next Kexboard and Mouse will be white! You remember the screenshots of Jaguar? There is a screenshot of the system preferences panel and the mouse symbol is not black anymore, it is white!!!

So I think that the major color will be white, and not only for the iMac/eMac line. Since the keyboard always matches with the case design, I am pretty sure about that.

The posted picture seems to be fake. I don't see why Apple should make it more difficult to maintain the tower, by leaving away the screws and the handle to open the case. And also the white speaker in the Quicksilver case looks too cheap as this could be a serious approach to a re-design of the current enclosures.

I could imagine that they keep the enclosures of the Quicksilver line, BUT...

1) everything that is in silver now will be snow white, also the front,
2) the Apple logo will be chrome,
3) the speaker will be white as well,
4) they will give the opportunity to use a second optical drive (5.25") inside.

That's all. Really new enclosures will come with the G5. But that way they will stop to make an optical difference between the pro and the consumer line. If they want to attract PC dudes, they are used to towers and if they don't get a tower they are not interested. But as long as Apple tells them indirectly what they have to buy (You want to use the Mac at home... then buy an iMac!) it won't work for all of the "switchers"!

Also for companies it doesn't make sense anymore, since a lot of them probably would buy some eMacs or iMacs for office work and towers for the real workload. But at the moment you have two different designs that don't get along very well. A Quicksilver besides an iMac doesn't give you the feeling that it looks good together.

Just my 2 cents...

:D

groovebuster

[tjwett]

good point. and potential "switchers" are familiar with beige boxes and the all white color scheme is close to that but still has the right amount of Apple style. i wouldn't be surprised if the whole line is white except the XServe. maybe even a white Powerbook? not white plastic but a white metal, like a painted TiBook. That would be cool.

[eyelikeart]

I don't see anything different in the picture...looks like the same thing we already have...

but I must say that the 23" Cinema Display makes the box look tiny! :D

[groovebuster]

Originally posted by tjwett
maybe even a white Powerbook? not white plastic but a white metal, like a painted TiBook. That would be cool.

Hmmm... I don't think so.

1) To put any kind of "paint" on Titanium is anything but easy,

2) The design of a laptop is independent from a "normal" desktop computer. Other manufacturers have very often black laptops, even their desktop PCs are gray or beige or whatever...

But who knows?

groovebuster

[crassusad44]

Dare I say Photshop??? If this is the brand new case design from Apple, I'm afraid they have run out of ideas...

[billiam0878]

I can't see all the quadrants (except the Xserve) going white. Right now there is an excellent contrast between PRO-Graphite and CONSUMER-White products. I could see a PowerMac that was white with metallic highlights, or vice versa, however, I would bet that Apple is going to maintain the color distinction. Just my 2 cents,

Bill

[kevinibook]

That's quite true. I don't see any PowerMac becoming white or even the TiBook. That would look REALLY ugly on them. And as billiam0878 said, it would show a distinct difference between Pro & Consumer.
Just a little afterthough:)

[Inhale420]

i've heard rumors that the new speaker hole is white.. it definitely looks white there.

[voyagerd]

The color white does not demonstrate power.

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by voyagerd
The color white does not demonstrate power.

Funny how the two words have been used together in the past, eh? ;)

White to me demonstrates sterilization, cleanliness and streamlined.

[OKComputer]

if you look at the pictures of the xserve interior its so amazing. they packed 4 HDs. 2 processors and 3 pci slots into that thing. This makes me think apple is headed in the direction of maybe even declairing the tower....dead....of course still giving pros all the expandability they crave.

[Ouroboros]

To those thinking that the Jaguar builds are hinting at the future colors of the PowerMac, I can tell you no! The simple logic is: look at OSX now. What computer is represented in the menu bar for "computer?" Its an old iMac.

What color mouse went with the old iMac? A grey one.

What computer is represented in the menu bar for "computer" in Jaguar? Its a new G4 iMac.

And...

Hence the mouse preference panel would follow with a white mouse, which goes with the white iMac.

This can also point to Apple's main direction with their OS if you think about it....

[big]

Small case design, huge benchmark bumbs would make me a happy camper. but where is the handle? I LOVE the handle to open the case.

I just can not wait... I'm going to go infiltrate apple tonight...

Or I may talk to my buddy here in Huntspatch and have him ask Jobs why I can't get on the Shuttle.

Oh that reminds me...they have a display room there in apple lined with current computers, prototypes etc...thought you all would be interested in that.

Perhaps if we could get a look in that room, we could see what's coming up

[iwantanewmac]

Originally posted by groovebuster
I guess one thing is almost for sure.

The next Kexboard and Mouse will be white! You remember the screenshots of Jaguar? There is a screenshot of the system preferences panel and the mouse symbol is not black anymore, it is white!!!

groovebuster

PLEEEEASE dont let the new keyboards and stuff be white!!!!
They get so filthy after a while, and yes I wash my hands a lot. :)

[kevinibook]

The white products don't get dirty, I have a white Pro Mouse and iBook, they don't get about as dirty as any other colored product....

[mrMahann]

metallic would be soooooo much better

[digital1]

The quality makes it hard to tell if its authentic or not, but I would venture to guess like everyone else that it is just a Dual 1 gig G4 set-up. That Cinema display brings tears to my eyes by the way. It is a very beautiful thing :-D:p

[stoid]

My big problem with the first pic posted is that there is no handle for the Easy-Access Panel on the G4. Apple wouldn't get rid of that in a zillion years. It's what makes the G4 so nice, no screws to open it. That's my reason for calling it a fake.

[mcrain]

Quick reminder...

The firewire and other ports on the ebay red mobo were white.

[theranch]

Take it easy everyone... this photo should have been explained on the first reply. 1. The photo appears to be reversed and that explains the "no handle"? (if you actually reverse the photo the apple logo get's reversed so that might not be true)
OR
1.a. The photo was fixed to remove the handle.
2. The white speaker and chrome look of the logo are from the white table and underlighting. The speaker is chrome so it will pickup the colors if you look at it at certain angles...the same with the logo. The logo sticks out on the case so it will pick up the color and shine making it look chrome or whatever.

This is not a new machine or prototype or anything other than a quicksilver case.
End of story.

[digital1]

I agree with that response right there. Makes a lot of sense. Also you may want to consider the reflection from the white background from the underlight. That could do some weird things. And if this guy used his panasonic, he could have had some extra light off the top of his camera adding more light to the shot making it look whiter than usual.

[Foocha]

Sorry - this image is not reverse - if that was so, then the Apple logo would be the wrong way round.

In my opinion there's an 80% chance that this picture is authentic.

I agree that the PowerMac is heading towards white and chrome, just like the rest of the product line, except the TiBook & xServe, where size & heat dispersion make Titanium an advantage.

In my opinion, whilst Titanium looks great on a TiBook (I'm using one right now), it would look like an old-fashioned 80's hi-fi system is you used it on a desktop.

I have no doubt that the new PowerMac keyboards & mice will be white.

The question is, will we see this system next week, or have to wait until August.

[theranch]

Originally posted by Foocha
Sorry - this image is not reverse - if that was so, then the Apple logo would be the wrong way round.

In my opinion there's an 80% chance that this picture is authentic.

The question is, will we see this system next week, or have to wait until August.

I edited my post before reading yours about the reversal issue. On that note then I would say that the photo is doctored a little so that the handle is missing. I stick with my comments about the colors though. I also would disagree that this is 80% authentic. Apple doesn't display future cases like this one is displayed.

[Foocha]

This does not appear to be an Apple Retail Store - the Apple Store's wall mounted benches are pine, not light-boxes.

The light-box benches are used on Apple's exhibition stands. Of course, the show is not yet set up at the Jacob Javits center in NY, but it will have been tested at a secret location elsewhere, and they would undoubtedly have set up the new products to lauch at the show on it. This is the biggest indication yet that there may be better news for us rumor fans at MWNY than c|net and Think Secret anticipate!

[theranch]

Originally posted by Foocha
This does not appear to be an Apple Retail Store - the Apple Store's wall mounted benches are pine, not light-boxes.

The light-box benches are used on Apple's exhibition stands. Of course, the show is not yet set up at the Jacob Javits center in NY, but it will have been tested at a secret location elsewhere, and they would undoubtedly have set up the new products to lauch at the show on it. This is the biggest indication yet that there may be better news for us rumor fans at MWNY than c|net and Think Secret anticipate!

It's not a future box and the shot was taken at a expo...maybe MWTY? Check out some of the shots here: http://homepage.mac.com/icruise1/MWTokyo2002.html
Check out the cinema display photo. This is no indication that there will be a new powermac at the MWNY. The photo at the top of this thread is just a quicksilver!

[theranch]

Originally posted by galopagos
Hello,

I am submitting the picture below to some rumor sites, especially since apple blacklisted you folks. This is a video capture from a cheap panasonic camcorder an apple friend of mine has. It features a 23 inch cinema display next to a g4 that looks slightly different from the normal dual-gig cases. It seems to be more white, and the apple on the side is smaller (kinda looks metallic too).

I am submitting this cause i'd people's opinions on this, if its real or not. the resolution isnt very high (probably due to the pisspoor quality of the walmart-reject panasonic camcorder), and i dont know why the keyboard is missing. other than that, i do not see and photoshopping or other artifacts that would prove it a fake at all.

anyone?

I'm sorry people but I can't let this one go... The explanation of the picture just sounds too fake. This is nothing more than a quicksilver... probably taken at MWSF or Tokyo.