Where do You get MP3s

[DavPeanut]

I have Sputnix, but it never works. What should I use?

[sparkleytone]

newsgroups.

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.full_albums

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete_cd

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3

those are my favorites.

[eyelikeart]

I've never gone to newsgroups for them...I take it u make good progress??

I've been using Limewire...which works well when it does...but too often I've found lately I cannot pull any decent searches up...and whenever I do they time-out... :rolleyes:

that being said....I'm looking for something new to satisfy my cravings... ;)

[sparkleytone]

if you are just mp3 prowling for nothing in particular, newsgroups are an amazing resource. you have to get your ISP's server settings and such. there is a learning curve to how the whole thing works, but its worth it. I use Thoth (www.thothsw.com/thoth) as a newsreader.

[job]

Yeah, I use Limewire too. It's alright for short (i.e. music) downloads, but anything over 20Mb and it choaks. And I have cable. :rolleyes:

[DavPeanut]

thanks. Limewire. OK, but I want something kind of free. I get $3 a week.

[job]

Limewire is free. Don't go for the pro version. The only difference between that and the basic (free) version is absence of banners. Get the 2.4 LimewireBasic here (http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/download)

[Nipsy]

Originally posted by DavPeanut
I have Sputnix, but it never works. What should I use?

You can delete Sputnix. The network which provided the songs has been shut down...I shed a tear just thinking about AG.

[crassusad44]

Acqusition. You'll lots more than you can download, but hey, it's gnutella... At least it's better than Limewire...

I'm waiting for giFT though....

[King Cobra]

I'm looking out for Drumbeat, as someone had recommended. Currently, Limewire has been an average app to use, but not excellent. However, in some occasions, it has saved my ash. :eek:

What is Acqsition like? Has anyone else tried it?

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by hitman
Yeah, I use Limewire too. It's alright for short (i.e. music) downloads, but anything over 20Mb and it choaks. And I have cable. :rolleyes:

I'm starting to have that problem on 5-8 MB downloads...it'll get to 75% and lose it...

very frustrating... :mad:

[King Cobra]

On my OS 9 version with my iMac 233 I lose downloads extremely easily, even after 3MB. On my OS X Cube at home in NJ I can get 2-digit MB files done in one shot, with 28.8Kb modem. :eek: Lucky me... :cool:

[Macmaniac]

I have downloaded over 40 songs form Limewire and I have only had about 5 give me probs. I usually do 3 at a time but with 56k its a joke;)

[stromie952]

Although Limewire is maybe the one and only program that can take down my Quicksilver 733 with 1.5 GB of RAM, it is still the best program for mp3's.

I have gotten a lot of them off of Limewire, probably over a thousand.

But, I would love to see Aquisition become a better program because it is OS X native and wouldn't crash at all.

[King Cobra]

Guys, isn't talking about downloading mp3s illegal on the site? I know talking about P2P programs shouldn't be, but I thought talking about song downloads over the internet was illegal. (I wasn't talking about downloading mp3s in my previous post, but downloads in general.) Correct me on this, if I am wrong.

[edesignuk]

We are not allowed to talk about the specifics, but we can generalize, for example, I use KaZaA on my PC to download MP3z, it's the best!

[King Cobra]

All right then. I'll stay general.

I do know of a freshman at Pascack Hills (confused? profile...), who uses Morhpeous (sp) to get his files. However, he says he has troubles finding songs from [a band]. I know that on Limewire I can find a lot of what I am looking for.

Again, guys, how does Acqusition work compared to Limewire? I would like to look into it soon.

[Nipsy]

A topical article that makes some good points:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26112.html

[King Cobra]

WARNING: The article listed below (provided by Nipsy) contains some profane language. Use at your own risk.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26112.html

I don't see what the article has to do with mp3 sharing, except for a small blurb of advanced vocabulary in the first paragraph.

[peterjhill]

I get all my mp3s from my CD collection. I had to stop importing them, as my iTunes folder is 15GB now. I am looking at getting an external firewire HD to offload some of my less favorite albums from my Ti800 HD.

It is easier for me to buy the music I want, rather than d/l it from somewhere. Besides, someone has to pay for music ;-) I think that people who actually create content that other people want should get paid for each person who has a copy of it. If I was a photographer, author, film producer, musician, poet, artist, game developer, I would want to make money in accordance to the demand for my content. I find it interesting that the makers of Limewire are selling ads, making money, by providing the means of people to acquire content that they have no intention of rewarding the original artist. Maybe artists can start accepting Paypal from anonymous people who want to give money to the creators. It is not like the labels would be happy though. They want their cut for promoting the artists and manufacturing the product and shipping it throughout the distribution channel.

I do think the labels are raping both the artists and the listeners. We all know how cheap it is to make our own cd's, even one-off's. With the bulk burners and specialized printers for printing out the liners and inserts, the manufacturing costs have to be pretty small. What are we paying for, cocaine for the record execs?

I remember when CD's came out, I thought about what would come along next. I thought they would come on chips, but didn't imagine storing thousands of songs in something the size of a pack of cards.

The whole music distribution thing needs to be rethought. I appreciate a good CD insert. I just picked up Red Hot and Rio last night, and it had a very nice insert with pictures, lyrics, etc. I am not ready to go completely digital with my music purchases. I do not need a physical CD though. I would be just as happy with the right to download an album in my choice of MP3 or AAC at various bit rates (important, because if you don't have the original music, but want a 64kbit version for a portable mp3 player, you do not want to downsample an already compressed file.) I want the right to download the songs as many times as I want. I would accept some kind of fingerprinting of the music, as long as the quality was not diminished AT ALL, so that they could track down the people who put the songs out for P2P downloading. Not that it would be long until someone hacked it (CSS cough).

[MacAztec]

http://www.xlife.org/aquisition_download.php

Its new and like napster. Works awesome!!

[ShaolinMiddleFinger]

I'm with Verbose. I use Kazaa on my PC....one of the few good reasons to have one I guess....

Acquisition looks cool, though. Is it just for OS X? How many people are on it. I'll download it at work and see what happens

[Nipsy]

Originally posted by King Cobra
WARNING: The article listed below (provided by Nipsy) contains some profane language. Use at your own risk.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26112.html

I don't see what the article has to do with mp3 sharing, except for a small blurb of advanced vocabulary in the first paragraph.

Profanity???
[edit: Ahh yes, there is one occurance of a more lively verion of 'brainhump', as well as a 'Deity water stopping device']

I posted a link to that article because I think it is important for us to be aware of why AG and Napster are gone, and how the companies that attacked them want to further their control of our content and out hardware.

When we took P2P for granted, it got shut down. We take the computer's ability to rip to mp3 for granted... We take the computers ability to watch DVD for granted...

As much as I love my mp3s, and finding new ones, it is most important to ensure that consumer outcry prevents hardware disabling our rights to fair use.

Just making everyone aware that there is a slippery slope...

[spuncan]

Hmm generalize unka
I use hotline which unfortunatly is a dying community theres a really good server that used to be listed on the macmusic tracker that went down. Unfortunatly I can't give u its address but i could through e-mail
I h8 limewire or gnutella based things because of their very low quality of its music.

[MacAztec]

Originally posted by ShaolinMiddleFinger
I'm with Verbose. I use Kazaa on my PC....one of the few good reasons to have one I guess....

Acquisition looks cool, though. Is it just for OS X? How many people are on it. I'll download it at work and see what happens

I dont know how many peeps are on it. But when I searched for "Big Tymers" i got over 450 results REALLY quick. And I searched for MP3, and got about 4500 results in 15 seconds

[King Cobra]

>Profanity???
"...CPRM - an almighty back-door mindf*** which would have rendered our PCs down forever to be dumb entertainment playback devices..."

I agree. There are some people who simple download mp3s and could give a rat's rectum about getting the CD. BUY THE F:eek:CKING CD! If you need to, get the mp3, but at least pay respects. (Actually I think no one NEEDS the mp3 any more than the CD, since they both have the song.) If you want the songs for a CD that aren't out yet, at least buy the CD when it comes out, so you can legally own the mp3.

As long as people follow these guidelines there should be no problem with P2P file sharing.

[MacAztec]

Queeny, wheres Alphy?

[mcrain]

Blah blah blah blah!

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money. And the music industry? Heck, I'm not supporting that wreck of an industry. A bunch of sharks. And to think lawyers have a bad name. Blah, Bah humbug.

[mcrain]

By the way Macaztec, officially is not spelled officialy.

[King Cobra]

>Queeny, wheres Alphy?
He's roaming.

You want to go for round 2? I'm all for it.

If not, I can understand...too much for both of us. If so, at least correct your signature.

[mcrain]

Fear the King? No, no no, it's fear the taxman and it's good to be the king!

[King Cobra]

Easy there, mcrain. I can see you are on a role today. You're are now correcting people's signatures!

Chill and have a blue pepsi. :D

[mcrain]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Chill and have a blue pepsi. :D

No pun intended, but what in the blue hell is that??? A blue pepsi????

[Nipsy]

Originally posted by mcrain
Blah blah blah blah!

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money. And the music industry? Heck, I'm not supporting that wreck of an industry. A bunch of sharks. And to think lawyers have a bad name. Blah, Bah humbug.

To some degree I agree with you. I have Who Let the Dogs Out, Rock Me Amadeus, and a whole slew of one hits where I never intend to buy the CD. However, 90% of my 75,000 song mp3 collection is not depriving the RIAA of their "hard earned" 75%.

But for me, P2P was about finding new small bands. I listen to punk & indie bands which aren't overpaid rockstars. Most of them work menial jobs to finance their music. They exist (and somtimes flourish) without the "help" of record companies. I support these bands by buying their cds, and seeing their shows. P2P let's me discover bands I never would have heard of otherwise, however, the RIAA has stomped out all the unsigned bands it is unwilling to promote, right along with supressing illegal distribution of musical genuises Britney et al.

[MacAztec]

I have to tell you a little about QC. He is really into "iBrators." I guess him and Alpha like to send eachother pictures, and have some fun.

Now, he will say that I am "young and not smart enough for a flame war," but I am not the one that cant stay up too late or else mommy and daddy get mad. Ok Queenie?

He also has a thing for "slitherin" around in people's behinds.

[peterjhill]

Originally posted by mcrain

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money.

I respect your right to your own opinion, but:

1) because I own the CD to the music I have in my iTunes Library, when the next version of iTunes comes out with support for AAC encoded MP-4s, I will be able to rip all my cds and have, not only more room on my HD, but higher quality copies of the originals. Even if they come out with a program to convert mp3's to mp4's the quaility will be crap compared to a straight rip to mp4

2) Music stars deserve to be rich, just as anyone else who is successful at what they do, who do something that many people want, but few can do. It is the law of supply and demand. Not buying a cd is like sneaking into the superbowl.
IMNSHO

[peterjhill]

Originally posted by Nipsy

But for me, P2P was about finding new small bands. I listen to punk & indie bands which aren't overpaid rockstars.

The Internet is great for musicians who want to get heard, but have not been bought out by a record label. P2P is even a boon for them, so that they don't have to pay for bandwidth by hosting their own site. I have gone to some artists web sites and downloaded songs that they have offered up as samples, and have bought a few cds as a result of this.

I don't think all labels are bad. Verve Records (http://www.ververecords.com) is an excellent label. All the artists seem happy. Their web site is pretty nice, except that they do not support the Mac as fully as they could on some things (they need to use quicktime more). Last night though, I was on their site, found an interesting cd I had not heard of, and went out and bought it that night.

I don't see P2P going away. There is too much demand, much of it from college students. Enough of them are CS majors out there that there will always be a new protocol. It will not be long until they start using dynamic ports, which will make it hard for ISP's to block the traffic. Network Filters will have to look into the data portions of all the packets in order to figure out if it is P2P, instead of just using the tcp port number.

[blackpeter]

I don't buy much music, but every album I've bought in the last 3 years was from an artist I found using P2P software: Amiee Mann, The Strokes, Fiona Apple, The White Stripes, Bill Withers. I think that having the album, the cover art and the highest quality audio is well worth $15 for a truly good album.
I used to waste a lot of money on music - paying for 15 songs when only 2 or 3 were good. Now it seems like the albums I buy are good front to back, and I have P2P to thank for that.

[King Cobra]

>(MacAztec)I have to tell you a little about QC. He is really into "iBrators."
I would not have posted such information. Alpha brought it up.

>I guess him and Alpha like to send eachother pictures, and have some fun.
If it's your mom... :eek:

>Now, he will say that I am "young and not smart enough for a flame war,"
I mentioned young and inexperienced. Intelligence has nothing to do with experience.

>but I am not the one that cant stay up too late or else mommy and daddy get mad.
I guess that means you get to stay up until 9am into the mornings, right. Don't forget, I'm on the east end, so time is three hours faster than time in your area.

>Ok Queenie?
That's fine with me, Asstec.

>He also has a thing for "slitherin" around in people's behinds.
The only way you could find that out is if you stuck your face in someone's ash. How many times have you don't that and got :eek: from them?

[mcrain]

Originally posted by MacAztec
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Dude, the name is mcrain... not Mc Rain, and shortening it to rain doesn't make any sense.

What's up with your little rant against alphatech and KC? I've had my run-ins with alphatech and his hot-headed retorts, but for the most part, if you ignore the attitude, he knows what he's talking about. KC is also a well respected member of these forums.

I know you guys had your little flame war, and all I can say is you're all amateurs. Grow up. If you want to flame, flame away based on the immateur level of the posts or the lack of intelligent discussion. This crap about iBrators and slithering in people's asses is just silly, and I know you're only a few years out of diapers, but good god, there's no reason to act like it.

[job]

Originally posted by mcrain
I know you guys had your little flame war, and all I can say is you're all amateurs. Grow up. If you want to flame, flame away based on the immateur level of the posts or the lack of intelligent discussion. This crap about iBrators and slithering in people's asses is just silly, and I know you're only a few years out of diapers, but good god, there's no reason to act like it.

It's good to hear a voice of reason in all of this madness. :D

[stromie952]

Nobody has mentioned yet that Acquisition is actually running on the Gnutella network, the same network as Limewire and Morpheus. So, it picks up hosts using both of those programs plus any other programs using the Gnutella network.

Also, it is OS X native so it doesnt kill the system.

It has bugs, but it is much better than Limewire just because of stability issues.

Downloads move fast on my iBook using a cable modem and I have had good luck with it so far.

Also, it is a viable source for other media if you so desired.

[oddfuzz]

It appears that i am a little late on my entry but....has anyone tried iSwipe? Its the only way to go for me. its kind of an upstart but gets worked on and developed constantly (maybe a little too much with a new version about every week). it taps into hotline, gnutella, carracho and even opennapter. some work better than others of course. well i don't want to break the law so i'd better stop. you all should give it a try

[j763]

OpenFT will kick ass once it's released... http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~sab2/OpenFT-Proposal.pdf

also, i don't know about you guys, but i haven't downloaded many mp3s since qt6 preview came out... mpeg4aac........ droooolll...

[ShaolinMiddleFinger]

Ok, I've tried Acquisition for about two days.... a couple searches and what now. It's alright... like Limewire. It's worthless if your looking for something that's international...I was looking for Kpop. Nope...no Baby Vox.... I tried JPop...no Namie Amuro... maybe when everyone finally catches on...

[Solipsys]

Originally posted by mcrain
Blah blah blah blah!

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money. And the music industry? Heck, I'm not supporting that wreck of an industry. A bunch of sharks. And to think lawyers have a bad name. Blah, Bah humbug.

you're right about the music industy being sharks... but i have to disagree about the musicians getting their fair share. the artist makes next to nothing on each cd sold. they make slightly more doing tours, and that's why you see artists doing exhausting year long tours across the globe. i know electronic musicians that are considered "world renown" and still have to work a day job.

the artist certainly deserves to be compensated for their efforts... unfortunately buying their cd doesn't do that.... downloading their music and sharing it with a wider audience probably helps them more. that said, i probably end up buying a cd or seeing a show by 90% of the artists i sample from gnutella and hotline... besides classical stuff like mozart or folk/blues from the first half of last century which i consider to be public domain by now.

[edesignuk]

I've just downloaded Acqisition and I must say it's very good, however the reason it is good is because it appears that it actually uses the KaZaA/Morpheus/LimeWire P2P networks which are allready well established, this is why it returns so many results.
The interface is very nice though, I think I may give it ago for while, but it's gonna have to be somethig pretty special to beat KaZaA on the wintel platform though.

[j763]

any of you guys tried out blubster on your PC's? I tried running it under VPC but it had an error of some sort :( My pc-using friends say that blubster is way better than KaZaa and doesn't come with all the spyware...

If you have got blubster, what do you think of it vs. KMD?