FireFox 0.9 Released

[ingenious]

Mozilla released FireFox 0.9 Today.


FireFox 0.9 (http://mozilla.com/products/firefox)

[bousozoku]

It seems to work quite well. The new theme is much better for me, but I'm sure someone won't like it. :D

[stcanard]

Tried it, and middle-click still won't open a new tab.

I guess I stay with Camino.

[blue&whiteman]

0.9 has crashed 4-5 times on me in a few hours. 0.8 crashed about 2 times in 5 months.

[bousozoku]

0.9 has crashed 4-5 times on me in a few hours. 0.8 crashed about 2 times in 5 months.

I'm still not having a problem. Have you repaired permissions? Are your bookmarks okay? A while back, I had trouble with one of the Mozilla-based browsers and bookmarks. I started over and didn't have another crash.

[applemacdude]

Does firefox support shockwave now?

[bousozoku]

Does firefox support shockwave now?

I don't know that it every stopped supporting it. Have a link handy to test it?

[applemacdude]

www.candystand.com any of the games

[bousozoku]

www.candystand.com any of the games

Definitely not and the menus don't work either. I was using the very latest Shockwave plug-in too.

I tried it with Shiira and it works just fine.

[blue&whiteman]

I'm still not having a problem. Have you repaired permissions? Are your bookmarks okay? A while back, I had trouble with one of the Mozilla-based browsers and bookmarks. I started over and didn't have another crash.

I have it stable now. all is well.

[g4cubed]

Works just fine for me :p

[Savage Henry]

I've started running this from work this morning an it seems OK for me, but then I've not asked anything complicated from it yet.

[bousozoku]

www.candystand.com any of the games

You'll be glad to know that the site is "new and improved" and none of the games I tried work with Safari, Shiira, or Firefox. :eek:

You got me hooked, you you, hooker. :D

[blue&whiteman]

I went back to 0.8. just like it better. I had 0.9 running stable for a day or so then it just started crashing every 30-45min. another permissions repair did nothing to help. could it be an issue with my rev. b G5?

[bousozoku]

I went back to 0.8. just like it better. I had 0.9 running stable for a day or so then it just started crashing every 30-45min. another permissions repair did nothing to help. could it be an issue with my rev. b G5?

My guess would be that you have something other than the default theme running. I tried a few with version 0.8 and found them to be fine until I managed bookmarks, at which time it would crash. I may try another theme in the future, but not soon.

[DJ Forge]

I tried 0.9 and it also crashed on me, about every 10-15 minutes

I ended up going back to 0.8

[michaelrjohnson]

i've had it stable for a day, but i don't like that Cmd+Up doesn't take you to the top of the page...

oh, and I'm the guy who doesn't like the default theme ;)

[stcanard]

I went back to 0.8. just like it better. I had 0.9 running stable for a day or so then it just started crashing every 30-45min. another permissions repair did nothing to help. could it be an issue with my rev. b G5?

There might even be a firefox issue--

On my work computer (XP) I've been running 0.8 without a problem. When I installed 0.9 it worked fine for a day, then for no apparent reason crashed immediately on startup every time. Uninstalling and reinstalling didn't work.

I finally searched my harddrive and my registry for every instance of a name containing "mozilla" and deleted everything. A reinstall worked then, but I had lost all my preferences and bookmarks.

It's working now, but we'll see if it crashes again.

This is with no themes and no extensions.

[amin]

0.9's been working well for me for a few days now. No crashes.

[bousozoku]

There might even be a firefox issue--

On my work computer (XP) I've been running 0.8 without a problem. When I installed 0.9 it worked fine for a day, then for no apparent reason crashed immediately on startup every time. Uninstalling and reinstalling didn't work.

I finally searched my harddrive and my registry for every instance of a name containing "mozilla" and deleted everything. A reinstall worked then, but I had lost all my preferences and bookmarks.

It's working now, but we'll see if it crashes again.

This is with no themes and no extensions.

You might check your bookmarks.html file size from time to time. I can't find any redundancy but this happened to me with early releases of the Mozilla browser where I went from 52KB to 2MB.

I say this because they just revised the way bookmarks are handled.

[stcanard]

You might check your bookmarks.html file size from time to time. I can't find any redundancy but this happened to me with early releases of the Mozilla browser where I went from 52KB to 2MB.

I say this because they just revised the way bookmarks are handled.

Hmm, that might do it. The bookmarks file was originallly created somewhere around about Mozilla 0.9.

[coolbreeze]

i've had it stable for a day, but i don't like that Cmd+Up doesn't take you to the top of the page...

oh, and I'm the guy who doesn't like the default theme ;)
I love it, but the Cmd+Up not working is irritating.

[ingenious]

i've had it stable for a day, but i don't like that Cmd+Up doesn't take you to the top of the page...

oh, and I'm the guy who doesn't like the default theme ;)

Yea, I liked 0.8's theme better..... (well, the PC theme at least.... the Mac OS X theme kinda seemed thrown together to me.)

[bousozoku]

Yea, I liked 0.8's theme better..... (well, the PC theme at least.... the Mac OS X theme kinda seemed thrown together to me.)

I was fine with the 0.7 theme for Mac but people apparently complained that it looked too much like WinXP, so they went to the black and white theme...ugggh. So now, I like the current one simply because it's not black and white.

[mateybob]

i have a number of problems with .9...
firstly its uglier
secondly they didnt fix the expose bug
thirdy, and this is the big one, it has a major memory leak... on startup it uses about 12mb but after an hour it was using over 100mb even though i only had one window open with no tabs... check for yourself in the activity monitor... its not releasing a LOT of memory... that probably explains crashes people are having..

[bousozoku]

i have a number of problems with .9...
firstly its uglier
secondly they didnt fix the expose bug
thirdy, and this is the big one, it has a major memory leak... on startup it uses about 12mb but after an hour it was using over 100mb even though i only had one window open with no tabs... check for yourself in the activity monitor... its not releasing a LOT of memory... that probably explains crashes people are having..

There is no Exposé bug. The extra window is part of the Mozilla design and has been there since Mozilla version 1.0.

[mateybob]

whether or not its a bug it still shouldnt be there... its a window that you cant normally see and serves no purpose.. so why should it show up when you hit f9? it just looks ugly...

[bousozoku]

whether or not its a bug it still shouldnt be there... its a window that you cant normally see and serves no purpose.. so why should it show up when you hit f9? it just looks ugly...

I've seen it working several times, although it looks as though it's there for debug purposes.

I'm not sure whether there's actually a memory leak or not, but I recorded the following:

At 22:24 I started Firefox and it showed as 33.28 MB real memory and 310.93 virtual memory.

At 22:57, it showed 83.70 and 390.84.

It's not unusual for C++ programmers to forget to dispose of memory. It's especially a problem with games, and most any application in the Windows world too.

I still suspect that there is some problem with the bookmarks, but those have been managed in JavaScript for the longest time. The way they work down the folders takes up more memory but they should be releasing it on the way back up. Besides, I haven't noticed any duplications, as I did with so many early Mozilla releases.

[mateybob]

mines up to 120mb at the moment... what seems to happen is whenever you create a new tab (and probably window.. dont know i dont use them) it allocates something close to 5mb to it but when you close the tab that memory is simply never released...
kind of a major memory leak for them to not notice...
but hey the first program i wrote in a proffesional setting leaked 500mb over half an hour :/

[bousozoku]

mines up to 120mb at the moment... what seems to happen is whenever you create a new tab (and probably window.. dont know i dont use them) it allocates something close to 5mb to it but when you close the tab that memory is simply never released...
kind of a major memory leak for them to not notice...
but hey the first program i wrote in a proffesional setting leaked 500mb over half an hour :/

Well, I don't use tabs and I didn't create any extra windows and stayed pretty close to just a few pages.

I wasn't able to leak memory on most machines, but I remember working on some report and I didn't advance the table cursor, so I kept reading the same record and the print job had over 20,000 pages when we killed it all. :D :D

[stcanard]

whether or not its a bug it still shouldnt be there... its a window that you cant normally see and serves no purpose.. so why should it show up when you hit f9? it just looks ugly...

It is a design decision on the part of the mozilla team, as a way to keep mozilla firefox resident in memory without any (visible) windows open. Since expose is an OS level feature, it does not know that window is not supposed to be shown, and there is no way to "register" no exposed windows.

You can complain all you want, but it's not going to change, as it is a concious design decision. If it bothers you that much, use Camino.