Quicktime 6 is here!!!

[thebt]

Just had a look at apple's website!

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/

GREAT!!! :D

[jelloshotsrule]

awesome call man... i'm installing itnow

it's also on apple's home page....


i'm guessing they wanted it out to stream the keynote... interesting that it should come out 2 days before the show though. makes one wonder if they just want to save the focus for other, bigger things....

[job]

Nice....lets hope iTunes gets an update as well. :D

[thebt]

The keynote stream will (should :confused: ) be much better with QT6 I think!

We'll see it in 2 days from now!!!

Counting.... :D

[job]

Anyone going to buy the pro?

If I remember correctly the old QT5 keys will not work.

[thebt]

If I remember, the old QT Pro 5 keys won't work, but the newwer QT5 keys should work. But I cant test it, because I have an old key :(

Noticed the new Quicktime icon in the Dock?!!! Cooool :D

[job]

Originally posted by thebt
Noticed the new Quicktime icon in the Dock?!!! Cooool :D

Post a pic! :D

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by hitman


Post a pic! :D

i think it's the same icon as for the public preview... but cool still

[thebt]

this one is a little bit better (bigger) ;)

see attach...

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by thebt
this one is a little bit better (bigger) ;)

see attach...

duh. i don't know why i didn't change the dock size before i took the picture....

good work

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule


duh. i don't know why i didn't change the dock size before i took the picture....

good work

Perhaps you have been doing too many jelloshots already today??? :eek: :eek: :D

I downloaded and installed QT6 on OS 9.2.2 here at work, but I didn't bring in my QT Pro keys today. When I get home, I will update QT on my TiBook. I purchased those keys with the latest version 5, after I got my new TiBook. I hope they work with QT 6. I will let you all know after I find out...

[awrc]

My QT5 Pro key, purchased all of three months ago, was basically laughed at by the QT6 installer.

Needless to say, I'm not very happy about this, I'm used to Pro keys lasting for a couple of versions. This one lasted three months. OK, so there's a royalty issue involved with the MPEG-LA stuff, but this is a pretty lousy way to handle it. Why not a $10 fee for QT5 Pro users (who would have to provide a registration code to qualify)? I'm sure that'd cover any royalty they're having to pay.

Somehow I suspect people with QT5 keys being forced to buy a new key is part of the deal they cut to get the royalties thing sorted out. I'm bet they're more than making up on anything they're having to pay in royalties with all the extra keys they're forcing people to buy.

Al

[tjwett]

looks like i won't be upgrading just yet. i use my QT Pro features all the time.
i just bought it too. this sucks that it won't work.

[eyelikeart]

well I got it...now what? ;)

[tjwett]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
well I got it...now what? ;)

lol! do you feel any different?

[job]

Originally posted by tjwett
looks like i won't be upgrading just yet. i use my QT Pro features all the time.
i just bought it too. this sucks that it won't work.

I'll probably buy the Pro version just because it will be my first Pro Quicktime. :D

Hey does anyone know if the trailers at the Apple site require QT6 already? Are there any sites that support the MPEG-4 codec yet?

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by tjwett
lol! do you feel any different?

I bet that is just the hangover from the geekfest... :eek: :eek: :eek: :D

[Durandal7]

I really hope that the keynote is MPEG-4. I've been looking at Apple's MPEG 4 samples and I'm quite impressed with the compression and quality of the videos.

[Rower_CPU]

I really don't see how people can be complaining about paying for new Pro keys for QT6.

The new technology built into QT6 far exceeds anything in the last two updates. MPEG4 and all that it entails cost quite a bit to license, and I'm more than willing to pay for that new functionality.

[King Cobra]

Let me add to ya' Rower...

You really aren't paying that much for a key, anyways. You get all these features and these basic additives, which you don't see in the free version, for only $30. I mean, in the computer world of software, you can't really do much w/$30. It's not like you are being asked to pay for to watch movies in full screen (BTW there is a way to do that for free...ask if you don't want the Pro version!) or to convert file types. You pay a simple sum of money to get MPEG-4 playback and editing, making your own videos, and formatting them to the way you like it.

I am willing to get the Pro Version, but right now my parents are strapped tight for money.

[daytona63]

When the QT6 Public Preview was released, Apple did explicitly say, in writing on the website, that QT5 Pro Keys would work with the Public Preview only and that new ones would be necessary. I checked on this before I went to buy my key, and it kept me from doing so... Besides, like others have been saying, QT6 is a whole new QT, really, not just a simple upgrade, so I don't mind paying for the new Keys.

[AlphaTech]

If anyone else bothered to read the 'Important Information' that pops up when you are within the installer you would see...

Note to QuickTime Pro Users
Because QuickTime 6 includes new royalty bearing technologies, a new QuickTime Pro key is required to unlock pro functionality in QuickTime 6. In addition to the abundance of media authoring capabilities in prior versions, QuickTime 6 Pro also provides the ability to create ISO compliant MPEG-4 files and encode MPEG-4 video and AAC audio. Visit the Apple Store <www.apple.com/quicktime/buy/> to purchase a QuickTime 6 Pro key.

[jelloshotsrule]

my old key worked too.... and someone else's worked too...

weird.

not sure what the specifics are of which do/don't have to be updated... steve will probably clear this up....

[Hemingray]

Hmm... yeah right Apple. Like hell if I'm giving you ANOTHER $30 for Quicktime Pro...! :rolleyes: Of course, if I install it and find out that my QT5Pro key works, I'll be fine dining on those words of mine. :p

[Update: Nope, no go. It laughed at me too when I fed it my QT5Pro key. Then again, my email from Apple only says "Quicktime Pro Key for MacOS and MacOSX". NOWHERE does it specify that it's only for QuickTime 5. Wonder if they can get away with that? Oh wait, of course they can! :rolleyes: Looks like I'll be "suffering" with QT5 Pro. Stuff it, Apple! :p ]

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Hemingray
Hmm... yeah right Apple. Like hell if I'm giving you ANOTHER $30 for Quicktime Pro...! :rolleyes: Of course, if I install it and find out that my QT5Pro key works, I'll be fine dining on those words of mine. :p

[Update: Nope, no go. It laughed at me too when I fed it my QT5Pro key. Then again, my email from Apple only says "Quicktime Pro Key for MacOS and MacOSX". NOWHERE does it specify that it's only for QuickTime 5. Wonder if they can get away with that? :p ]

You are complaining about spending $30 for a QT6 Pro key??? Man, you are one cheap pr*ck. :eek: :eek: :p

I will be getting mine tonight, since you don't pay tax or such nonsense when you do it online.

[barkmonster]

well it's killed micrologic for me, freezes on the splash screen and I can't even force quit or bring up the console so I can type "G finder" and get out of it.

Also, it seems to slow the system down while it's running even if there's no movie open after you close a movie window.

That aside, they've improved the smoothing quality on scaled video and MPEG video plays back a lot smoother aswell.

I'd love to see it running on a G4 under OS X but I'm just glad I've not been left out of the fun by having an old G3 with OS 9.1

I hate the way it's broken micrologic though, protools LE runs fine with it installed but I still use micrologic sometimes for midi when I've got too many applications open to launch protools LE.

I hope we see MP4 playback in iTunes soon, It sounds great to me.

[awrc]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


You are complaining about spending $30 for a QT6 Pro key??? Man, you are one cheap pr*ck. :eek: :eek: :p

If I'd had the damn thing for any length of time I wouldn't complain about it, but you buy *any* piece of software and find there's a new version just a few months later and no upgrade path it's not unreasonable to be pissed. At the very least Apple should have been posting big "WARNING - QT6 IMMINENT AND ANY KEY YOU BUY NOW WON'T WORK" notices all over the Quicktime item in the Apple store for the past six months.

I'll buy it eventually, but since I've not got any imminent video work planned I'm going to leave buying QT6 Pro until I absolutely need to.

I will be getting mine tonight, since you don't pay tax or such nonsense when you do it online.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but here's a little snippet from when I bought QT5 Pro, just three months back:

PURCHASE INFORMATION

ORDER

Part Number: D1584LL/A
Product Name: QuickTime Pro for Mac OS and Mac OS X
Unit Price: $29.99
Quantity: 1
Net Price: $29.99

ORDER SUBTOTAL: $29.99
ESTIMATED TAX AMOUNT: $1.68

ESTIMATED ORDER TOTAL: $31.67

Maybe you're lucky in that they won't charge for your state, but they certainly charge for Wisconsin, and it's not even as if there's an Apple store here (yet).

Al

[Catfish_Man]

... I really hate to add fuel to the fire, but I think it's *very* strong evidence of a 10.2 release/announcement in the near future (MWNY, most likely).

[AlphaTech]

Listen, awrc, I purchased my QT5 pro key 5 months ago. Even though there was tax listed on the web order, the actual charge to my account did NOT include any sales tax. Wait and see when you purchase yours.

I actually purchased two keys back in Feb. (by accident) and even though the web order showed a total of $62.98, the ACTUAL charge to my account was $59.98. Do the math... :p :D

Did you check the actual charge on the account you used to make the purchase??? Unless Wisconsin is a total pr*ck about sales tax, I'd be surprised if you were charged tax on it.

They can get around the charge being different with the word "estimated".

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


You are complaining about spending $30 for a QT6 Pro key??? Man, you are one cheap pr*ck. :eek: :eek: :p

I will be getting mine tonight, since you don't pay tax or such nonsense when you do it online.

Well hm, if I recall correctly, that would make $90 total having gone toward Apple's QuickTime Pro in the past few years, for doing stuff as simple as being able to edit movies and view "special" trailers. I dunno 'bout you, but I don't have a whole lot of money right now, especially since I just bought a new car.

And would you like it if Adobe charged full price for every new version of Photoshop regardless of if you paid full price for the previous version? :rolleyes:

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Hemingray
And would you like it if Adobe charged full price for every new version of Photoshop regardless of if you paid full price for the previous version? :rolleyes:

If the full price was $30, I'd gladly pay it... :p

Considering how I registered QT when there was a free upgrade to the pro version, I have only had to purchase a QT5 key (my old key worked for version 4 and the early OS 9 version of 5, but not for the OS X version). So I will purchase the QT 6 key. QT5 was out for more then a few months, so I don't feel bad about getting the QT6 key now.

QT7 is probably at least a year away, and who knows if you will need a new key or not for the pro features. Buying, or not buying something just because you think you MIGHT have to pay for an upgrade later is more then a touch moronic.

I can understand money being a touch tight. With my two vehicle purchases this year, as well as other things, I am not rolling in money. Things will improve in the next 6-8 months though, since one bill will go away early next year. At that point, I will put those funds to pay down another bill. Becuase of that, I probably won't be purchasing a new Mac next year, even if the G5 does come out. I might be able to get one in 2004, but more likely in 2005.

[King Cobra]

This might be the reason why some QT5 Pro keys work and some don't. Again, MIGHT.

Remember back to the Pro key upgrade from QT4 to QT5? If you purchased your QT4 after a certain time (just before the release of QT5) you could upgrade to Pro 5 for free. I wonder if this is the case for QT5 to Pro 6. Has anyone purchased very recent keys to 5 and have them work for 6? And has anyone purchased QT5 keys from, like, last year and have them not work with the Pro upgrade to 6? If this is not the case, then obviously I would be wrong.

But I do remember that Apple clearly stated on their website the deal with the Keys from 4 to 5.

And, heck, I'm gonna let the cat (not Jaguar :D) out of the bag....

The free way to view movies full screen would be using a free (and legal) application called Present Movie. (You may have to search for PresentMovie...I found it at download.com). There are some problems with some files, especially mp4 video, so that's why I would recommend Pro.

[job]

I have a problem with the new Quicktime plugin and Mozilla 1.0

Every time I go to the Apple trailer site, Mozilla crashes. A type 7 error apparently.

hitman

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by hitman
I have a problem with the new Quicktime plugin and Mozilla 1.0

Every time I go to the Apple trailer site, Mozilla crashes. A type 7 error apparently.


Well titman, I'm having 0 issues viewing QuickTime content with the latest version of ie and QT6... You might have to wait for a new release of mozilla to be able to watch the trailers again... :p... [Nelson voice] Haaa Haaaaa [/Nelson voice] :D

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


Well titman, I'm having 0 issues viewing QuickTime content with the latest version of ie and QT6... You might have to wait for a new release of mozilla to be able to watch the trailers again... :p... [Nelson voice] Haaa Haaaaa [/Nelson voice] :D

Ah, screw you and your Micro$uck software. :D

To quote an immature Counter-Strike player :

[Mozilla] 0wnz j00!

:D :D

[AlphaTech]

I didn't know there were any mature cünterstrike players... :eek: :eek: :eek: :p :D

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
I didn't know there were any mature cünterstrike players... :eek: :eek: :eek: :p :D

Neither did I...:D

It's almost an oxymoron. :D :D

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by King Cobra
The free way to view movies full screen would be using a free (and legal) application called Present Movie. (You may have to search for PresentMovie...I found it at download.com). There are some problems with some files, especially mp4 video, so that's why I would recommend Pro.

there's a bunch more features to qt pro than just full screen, but indeed, that's one of the main aspects for some i'm sure...

word

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule


there's a bunch more features to qt pro than just full screen, but indeed, that's one of the main aspects for some i'm sure...

word

Oh yeah, watching my "acquired" MPEGS of Babylon 5 in full screen rocks.

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
If the full price was $30, I'd gladly pay it... :p

Yeah, you and me both! It all depends on the motivation, right? :D

... I probably won't be purchasing a new Mac next year, even if the G5 does come out. I might be able to get one in 2004, but more likely in 2005.

I hear ya. I was all set for a new PowerMac, but it looks like that's a ways off! I'm between jobs right now too so that makes things even tighter. I swore years back I wouldn't replace my G4 400 until the specs tripled. Scary, I'm still waiting. :eek:

[job]

Originally posted by Hemingray
I swore years back I wouldn't replace my G4 400 until the specs tripled. Scary, I'm still waiting. :eek:

Well the specs might barely make the cut this year. But just barely... :(

[AlphaTech]

Well, the dual GHz system more then trippled the spec's if you add up the speed of both chips... 2000MHz... :D :p

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Well, the dual GHz system more then trippled the spec's if you add up the speed of both chips... 2000MHz... :D :p

Well.... :rolleyes: :D

[barkmonster]

I swore years back I wouldn't replace my G4 400 until the specs tripled. Scary, I'm still waiting.

It was quadruple with me, I've got a 300Mhz G3.

I also want it for the price I paid for my G3 not over £2000 or some stupid price like that. I guess what I want could show up at MWSF rather than MWNY. an entry level powermac with a 1.2Ghz CPU and DDR would be great.

minus the cost of my SCSI CD Writer, 128Mb RAM upgrade and external modem, a mid range powermac G4 with a CDRW instead of superdrive would come in at less than I've paid so far and I'd have all those extras built in. I just know I'll never have nearly £2000 to spend on a mac so I have to aim low and buy either an end of life (right after MW event blow out sales are good!) or entry level model or I'm left out of the all fun for cost reasons.

Still a 4 x Mhz boost, a 4 x system bus increase (if it's DDR), 4 x the RAM capacity, all those extra ports I won't need PCI cards for, the extra slots and the faster graphics card all add up to a 1.2Ghz G4 being something worth waiting for seeing as I've got a late '97 beige G3 (bought weeks after the B & W G3s came out).

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


If the full price was $30, I'd gladly pay it... :p

Considering how I registered QT when there was a free upgrade to the pro version, I have only had to purchase a QT5 key (my old key worked for version 4 and the early OS 9 version of 5, but not for the OS X version). So I will purchase the QT 6 key. QT5 was out for more then a few months, so I don't feel bad about getting the QT6 key now.

QT7 is probably at least a year away, and who knows if you will need a new key or not for the pro features. Buying, or not buying something just because you think you MIGHT have to pay for an upgrade later is more then a touch moronic.

I can understand money being a touch tight. With my two vehicle purchases this year, as well as other things, I am not rolling in money. Things will improve in the next 6-8 months though, since one bill will go away early next year. At that point, I will put those funds to pay down another bill. Becuase of that, I probably won't be purchasing a new Mac next year, even if the G5 does come out. I might be able to get one in 2004, but more likely in 2005.

good point...i will go with a qt pro sometime soon