How Do The Colors "Pop"?

[shambo]

At the risk of fanning the flames of another matte v glossy slapdown one thing that has always made me curious is the expression glossy buyers oft use to justify their purchase by arguing that the glossy display makes the colors "pop". For example here is one such thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=792613

What really is 'color popping', and how do they 'pop'?

Thanks in advance.

[BaldiMac]

I believe it is the same technology used in bubble wrap. Highly addictive.

[Bigabouli]

I believe it is the same technology used in bubble wrap. Highly addictive.

I love doing that, i wish Macs came wrapped in some.

[avigalante]

Is it me, or does shamwow literally create a thread for every single question that enters his mind?

[prodigee]

To get back on topic, google it, I know what it means so to speak but I can't really explain it.

[shambo]

To get back on topic, google it, I know what it means so to speak but I can't really explain it.

Do they mean sharper, brighter? :confused:

[Washuu]

Do they mean sharper, brighter? :confused:

Color POP! - Can be defined as the colors coming out of the screen, vibrant, or well saturated.

Supposedly brighter, but glossy screens are for people who have no idea how to properly calibrate the screen or are not good with color management.
Glossy screens also attempt to make up for low bit LCD panels. Most laptop screens are 6-bit versus more expensive 8-bit panels that give better color response.
The reason for "pop" on glossy surfaces is due to have the light refracts into the surface.

My matte screen on my 2007 MBP is calibrated very close to an expensive 8-bit Samsung matte LCD desktop monitor that I use every day for color correct work. The colors certainly "pop" on both screens.

All the negatives of glossy screens are not worth buying one. Easy to scratch and too much glare.

[nateharr]

Do they mean sharper, brighter? :confused:

All I know is that on my 13" Macbook PRO, the colors are "popping" all over the place. :D

[AnotherFanBoy]

At the risk of fanning the flames of another matte v glossy slapdown one thing that has always made me curious is the expression glossy buyers oft use to justify their purchase by arguing that the glossy display makes the colors "pop". For example here is one such thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=792613

What really is 'color popping', and how do they 'pop'?

Thanks in advance.

Feels like you made a sarcastic post to start yet another argument about which is better, glossy or matte, at which point you can then tell everyone that you sprang for the more expensive option, and explain to everyone who didn't, that the only reason they didn't do it is because they couldn't afford to.

Is it me, or does shamwow literally create a thread for every single question that enters his mind?

Not just you.

To get back on topic, google it, I know what it means so to speak but I can't really explain it.

I think the word is vibrant.

Ultimately, it's all down to personal choice. If people think glossy looks better, then it's for them, if not, they should go down the anti glare route.

I can definitely say that it's not down to what you could afford, when you are spending more than $1000 on a computer, $50 is minor, it's like buying a sleeve for it. I chose glossy because the matte looks washed out to me, but again, that's my opinion and I'm not expecting everyone to agree, neither do I want/need them to.

[shambo]

Feels like you made a sarcastic post to start yet another argument about which is better, glossy or matte, at which point you can then tell everyone that you sprang for the more expensive option, and explain to everyone who didn't, that the only reason they didn't do it is because they couldn't afford to.



Not just you.



I think the word is vibrant.

Ultimately, it's all down to personal choice. If people think glossy looks better, then it's for them, if not, they should go down the anti glare route.

I can definitely say that it's not down to what you could afford, when you are spending more than $1000 on a computer, $50 is minor, it's like buying a sleeve for it. I chose glossy because the matte looks washed out to me, but again, that's my opinion and I'm not expecting everyone to agree, neither do I want/need them to.

The 13" doesn't have a matte option so you had NO choice in your display. :rolleyes:

[zachplaysguitar]

The 13" doesn't have a matte option so you had NO choice in your display. :rolleyes:

So at what time do you grow a pair and stop making these useless threads/comments talking about your "2 inches of :apple:" that really only serves to console your insecurities?

It's like old guys with expensive cars...

[AnotherFanBoy]

The 13" doesn't have a matte option so you had NO choice in your display. :rolleyes:

If I wanted a matte option I would have bought a bigger one. I bought this for my law school so I could travel light and work on the train, but I was considering buying a bigger one to keep at home as a sort of desktop.

My point was, the AG option isn't something to brag about. When I read your posts, you feel like you are better in some way because you 'could afford' to buy it, and no one else could. Some people do choose to go glossy.

[throttlemeister]

At the risk of fanning the flames of another matte v glossy slapdown one thing that has always made me curious is the expression glossy buyers oft use to justify their purchase by arguing that the glossy display makes the colors "pop". For example here is one such thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=792613

What really is 'color popping', and how do they 'pop'?

Thanks in advance.
Do you remember printed photographs from before digital photography? You could have them printed gloss or matte. The gloss would pop more. Same difference as with the screens.

[SimD]

Absolute non-sense post.

There are three types of calibration. There's ambient light calibration which gets the best color and brightness in respect to your environment, and then there's print calibration which tries to make your screen display the closest representation of print media. There's also calibration for television (and film).

Print calibration and television calibration is usually at 1.8 gamma, meaning blacks are less black and more grey. Or what you see on print.

Glossy is great if you never plan on printing, or color correcting FOR PRINT or TV. It is excellent for web, design or browsing.

They both serve different needs and it really comes down to what you plan on doing with the system.

Color POP! - Can be defined as the colors coming out of the screen, vibrant, or well saturated.

Supposedly brighter, but glossy screens are for people who have no idea how to properly calibrate the screen or are not good with color management.
Glossy screens also attempt to make up for low bit LCD panels. Most laptop screens are 6-bit versus more expensive 8-bit panels that give better color response.
The reason for "pop" on glossy surfaces is due to have the light refracts into the surface.

My matte screen on my 2007 MBP is calibrated very close to an expensive 8-bit Samsung matte LCD desktop monitor that I use every day for color correct work. The colors certainly "pop" on both screens.

All the negatives of glossy screens are not worth buying one. Easy to scratch and too much glare.

[AnotherFanBoy]

To be fair, the above poster made note of a nonsense post, this whole thread is nonsense and I can't believe it hasn't been closed.

It seems to be a very thinly veiled attempt at starting another argument over a subject which has been argued to death already, with no one realizing that it is a matter of opinion.

[shambo]

To be fair, the above poster made note of a nonsense post, this whole thread is nonsense and I can't believe it hasn't been closed.

It seems to be a very thinly veiled attempt at starting another argument over a subject which has been argued to death already, with no one realizing that it is a matter of opinion.

Why the heck should the thread be closed? Just because you're not interested in what makes the colors "pop" doesn't mean others aren't. :rolleyes:

Now enough already of your rather tiresome trolling and flaming.

[AnotherFanBoy]

Why the heck should the thread be closed? Just because you're not interested in what makes the colors "pop" doesn't mean others aren't. :rolleyes:

Now enough already of your rather tiresome trolling and flaming.

But is it really a genuine question? Or is it sarcasm aimed at the people who say their screens 'pop'?

You started your post by saying people use 'popping' to justify their purchase, which would suggest you think they need to justify buying glossy because it is in some way inferior. A lot of your posts on this forum are about the matte vs glossy argument and all of them are incredibly one sided.

And you have called me a flamer and troll, but I didn't start a sarcastic thread. But call me what you will.

[tofagerl]

On my Macbook 1,1 I can make the colors pop, but I literally get a headache. I just use the sRGB color profile, or generate my own. (which looks NOTHING like the sRGB color profile)

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Why the heck should the thread be closed? Just because you're not interested in what makes the colors "pop" doesn't mean others aren't. :rolleyes:

Now enough already of your rather tiresome trolling and flaming.

So is this a veiled attempt to shoot down all the morons who buy glossy because they're too poor for matte?

I mean matte is obviously better than glossy, that's why Apple charges $50 for it. There's no opinion one way or another. Matte is better. Fact.

[shambo]

So is this a veiled attempt to shoot down all the morons who buy glossy because they're too poor for matte?

I mean matte is obviously better than glossy, that's why Apple charges $50 for it. There's no opinion one way or another. Matte is better. Fact.

Well why would Apple charge you more for something that wasn't better? Nice things cost hard dollars. FACT!

[TwinCities Dan]

This thread. :rolleyes:

[AnotherFanBoy]

Well why would Apple charge you more for something that wasn't better? Nice things cost hard dollars. FACT!

Or perhaps it's the fact that they have to build it to order and because they are building them in small quantities Apple therefore do not get the purchasing economies of scale that they get when they manufacture the glossy ones.

But you know, I might be wrong, this whole business theory might be completely stupid and it might be because matte screens are so super awesome.

Some of your arguments sorta make it sound like your hard dollars are earned on a paper route...

[NT1440]

Well why would Apple charge you more for something that wasn't better? Nice things cost hard dollars. FACT!

Wow. Look at apples hardware and ask yourself that same question. ;)

[wankey]

Colors popping is a purely subjective issue. The reason behind people saying colors popping is because there is a glass over frame on it so it looks "clean"... however, I have seen dirty glass MBs and they are disgusting, much more disgusting compared to matte because the dirt is so obvious and obtrustive.

The colors themselves don't pop at all, but the perception of them do. Because there is a much harsher contrast between the reflection (which isn't blurred) and the image behind it, it feels a lot sharper. You’re literally projecting a sharp image on top of the glass.

It's just a perception issue nothing more. I use a NEC 2690wuxi and let me tell you, those colors POP. You can literally load your favourite photographs and it displays colors to the point where your eyes don't even know exists. I was quite astonished with those colors.

But as for the gloss / matte color popping, it's literally a perception issue. If you turn off all the lights, the gloss feels less bright and less vibrant, whilst the matte feels more vibrant. If you turn on the lights, the matte feels not as sharp, whereas the gloss feels very sharp.

I’ve compared my matte MBP to glass MBPs, there is really no big difference unless you are in bright light conditions and you are using low brightness. That’s the only issue. Possibly if a weight savings if you use matte since yo don’t have to lug around an extra layer of glass. Really no point in discussing this further.

[Surely]

Well why would Apple charge you more for something that wasn't better? Nice things cost hard dollars. FACT!

It's not a fact just because you type 'fact' in caps.

You are incorrect, and your statement is not a fact.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Well why would Apple charge you more for something that wasn't better? Nice things cost hard dollars. FACT!

But Apple's screens used to all be matte, now they're glossy by default. Surely newer = better. FACKED

You seem to already have your answer and your sense of superiority, what's the thread even for?

[shambo]

But Apple's screens used to all be matte, now they're glossy by default. Surely newer = better. FACKED

You seem to already have your answer and your sense of superiority, what's the thread even for?

"How Do The Colors "Pop"?"

:rolleyes: