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MacRumors
Aug 18, 2004, 12:11 AM
According to Macworld.co.uk (http://macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=9402), Phil Schiller will be providing the keynote speech at the upcoming Apple Expo Paris on August 31, 2004.
Jobs is taking time off due to his previously mentioned (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/08/20040801214953.shtml) medical condition and is expected to return to work in September.
The new G5 iMac (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/08/20040813012355.shtml) is expected to be released at the Paris expo.
JGowan
Aug 18, 2004, 12:12 AM
I like Phil! He's kind of quirky and a little goofy, but seems like a true geek and really loves all the products I've seen him talk about. A very good #2 for Steve's even bigger Egg Head.
SolarisSkyrider
Aug 18, 2004, 12:15 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing how many of Steve's quirks he adopts and how many of his own he introduces to everything. As long as his Reality Distortion Field around the new iMac is as big as Steve's would have been, then I'm happy.
Maybe Steve will say hello from his home using the new iChat or something. :)
nate13
Aug 18, 2004, 12:20 AM
When i heard steve was sick, i thought either the keynotes would end or someone else would be in the spotlight. Good thing it was the second.
nate :D :o
appleguy
Aug 18, 2004, 12:20 AM
Just thinking with the Airport Express.
Wont it be cool if you could stream music to another iChat user (or if poss a couple of users) from iTunes
AliensAreFuzzy
Aug 18, 2004, 12:27 AM
Personally, I'm still hoping for Woz. He's an awesome guy.
Some_Big_Spoon
Aug 18, 2004, 12:28 AM
That would be truly cool. I'd rather Steve in a hospital bed being wheeled around by Woz :-)
Personally, I'm still hoping for Woz. He's an awesome guy.
nagromme
Aug 18, 2004, 12:40 AM
I think the iMacs may NOT be announced at Apple Expo. Because:
1. Apple has said September, not August, so they are under no obligation to announce early.
2. Steve would want to do it. Waiting a little could let him do so.
3. Regardless, they'll still ship in quantity at the same time either way (September... at IBM's mercy).
virividox
Aug 18, 2004, 12:41 AM
i say phil should do a joint keynote with jon ives hehe
Doctor Q
Aug 18, 2004, 12:45 AM
Having a stunt-Steve was expected.
What I'd like to know is if Steve will participate from home. Will he reveal new products via iChat?
~Shard~
Aug 18, 2004, 12:50 AM
I think this is great - Phil's going to do an excellent job replacing Steve, and I'll be eager to see how the keynote goes over.
2A Batterie
Aug 18, 2004, 01:02 AM
Personally, I would like to see Frank Stallone do they keynote
fpnc
Aug 18, 2004, 02:20 AM
IMO, there will be no G5 iMac introduction unless Steve does the presentation himself. I suspect the recent news reports concerning IBM's continued problems with G5 production means that the new iMac is going to be delayed longer than was anticipated even one month ago.
I wish Steve Jobs all the best in his recovery from surgery, but I wonder if his no-show at the Paris Expo might actually mean that the G5 iMac has been delayed yet again (beyond original estimates).
Windowlicker
Aug 18, 2004, 02:24 AM
Just thinking with the Airport Express.
Wont it be cool if you could stream music to another iChat user (or if poss a couple of users) from iTunes
not a bad idea.. after all, you can always play the music to the microphone when having an audio or video chat. this would make it one step further.
feeze
Aug 18, 2004, 02:29 AM
Maybe Steve will join in on the keynote, using iChat on a brand new iMac G5.
MacFan26
Aug 18, 2004, 02:43 AM
As much as Steve brings to a keynote, I don't see a huge impact if Phil introduces it instead of Steve. Maybe it will be so awesome no one will notice :). I'm more worried if the announcement would be delayed because of G5 shortages.
ssamani
Aug 18, 2004, 03:41 AM
Just thinking with the Airport Express.
Wont it be cool if you could stream music to another iChat user (or if poss a couple of users) from iTunes
Of course you can stream from iTunes, but just over the local network.
When streaming was introduced in iTunes, there was a way to do it over the net, but with stream recording software, it was being abused and used as a de-facto musing sharing network, so Apple released an iTunes patch that prevented music sharing to only the local network (subnet). So don't hold your breath for this feature in iChat.
Dunno if you're a student, but the iTunes sharing / streaming should work over most campus networks, just not over the wider 'net.
Sanj
MacFan26
Aug 18, 2004, 03:52 AM
Dunno if you're a student, but the iTunes sharing / streaming should work over most campus networks, just not over the wider 'net.
If anyone's curious, iTunes sharing worked at my campus, but would only share in my dorm, and not across the whole network as I've heard some schools do.
ebally
Aug 18, 2004, 04:09 AM
I know that this is a little off topic, but could someome possibly make an educated guess as to whether we will see new PowerBook revisions at the Paris Expo. And if so, what are the most likely specifications?
PS. I wish you all the luck in your recovery Steve.
Jalexster
Aug 18, 2004, 04:20 AM
Probably because each dorm is on it's own subnet at your school. Schools which have it work across the whole network must have every computer on the same subnet.
Maybe they are also using some sort of weird NAT system to allow more than 255 computers networked, Maybe...
displaced
Aug 18, 2004, 04:53 AM
Nope - I reckon they'll just make everyone sit a bit further from the stage, and use Noah Wyle as the stunt-Steve (http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/photogallery)
:)
Seriously, though -- Schiller's enough of a personality to pull it off. The guy's as enthusiastic as they come. Most likely it'll be as good a keynote as ever, but at the very least it'll be interesting to see.
I can't see this delaying any product announcements. Investors and 'the Street' are already a little wary of the 'cult of the CEO' at Apple. While Steve's obviously a very hands-on person, Apple can't give the impression of slowing down or grinding to a halt because he's away for a month or two.
liketom
Aug 18, 2004, 05:06 AM
Maybe a PowerBook rev is on the cards just looked on UK refurb store :
Refurbished PowerBooks
Refurb PowerBook G4 15"/1GHz/256DDR/60GB/Combo/BT
(Original Product inc VAT Price was: £1599) -35%
Refurb PowerBook 15.2" 1.33GHz/256DDR/60G/Combo/APX/BT
(Original Product inc VAT Price was: £1399) -25%
Refurb PowerBook 15.2" 1.5GHz/512DDR/80G/SD/APX/BT
(Original Product inc VAT Price was: £1749) -25%
Refurbished iPod
or maybe not ?
anyway i hope super steve's replacment is up to scratch for the keynote
MacFan26
Aug 18, 2004, 05:29 AM
Nope - I reckon they'll just make everyone sit a bit further from the stage, and use Noah Wyle as the stunt-Steve (http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/photogallery)
Now that's more like it :D
mangoduck
Aug 18, 2004, 05:48 AM
$teve.getWell();
sonyrules
Aug 18, 2004, 07:10 AM
COME ON PHIL, BRING ON THE REALITY DISTORTION FIELD!!!!
I think he will stumble...
Roller
Aug 18, 2004, 07:55 AM
I can't imagine that they won't intro the G5 iMac, since they've already pre-announced it. A new PowerBook is highly unlikely. A new version of Keynote would be great - it's been almost 2 years.
He's no Steve Jobs, but Phil will do an OK presentation - the products will speak for themselves. I'm sure that much will be said about ITMS, given the early success of the European version and Real's announcement.
If I were Phil, I'd come out in a turtleneck and jeans. :)
manu chao
Aug 18, 2004, 08:07 AM
Just thinking with the Airport Express.
Wont it be cool if you could stream music to another iChat user (or if poss a couple of users) from iTunes
You can already re-enable iTunes sharing beyond the subnet, here is how it is done:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030602094254826&query=itunes+subnet
This sounds all very complicated but all the complicated instructions are only necessary when you sit behind a router or a firewall. Otherwise it as simple as installing the beacon on the computer you want to listen to music on and entering the IP of the computer on which the music is sitting.
Porchland
Aug 18, 2004, 09:17 AM
I think the iMacs may NOT be announced at Apple Expo. Because:
1. Apple has said September, not August, so they are under no obligation to announce early.
2. Steve would want to do it. Waiting a little could let him do so.
3. Regardless, they'll still ship in quantity at the same time either way (September... at IBM's mercy).
I would be stunned if the iMac wasn't announced in Paris. Think back to Steve's last keynote where he typed "Paris" and "iMac" into his search. There was a reason for that.
Also, it's ready and the stock market expect Apple to steady the ship after going iMac-less for two months.
I would say there's an 80 percent chance or better that we'll see the iMac in Paris. There may be "one more thing" to go with it -- maybe not -- but we'll get the new iMac.
Porchland
Aug 18, 2004, 09:23 AM
A new version of Keynote would be great - it's been almost 2 years.
Plus, the Macworld review of PowerPoint 2004 was very favorable, and Apple isn't a company to let its buzz applications get pushed downmarket. I suspect you're right that we'll see Keynote 2 in Paris. Probably $49.
applekid
Aug 18, 2004, 09:33 AM
Phil isn't as charismatic as Steve. Gonna be a hard sale, especially if these iMacs are the crap they are reported to be.
~Shard~
Aug 18, 2004, 09:39 AM
Gonna be a hard sale, especially if these iMacs are the crap they are reported to be.
Yah, the new iMacs are gonna suck with those crappy slow G5 chips in them... :rolleyes:
JoePike
Aug 18, 2004, 10:17 AM
Phil isn't as charismatic as Steve. Gonna be a hard sale, especially if these iMacs are the crap they are reported to be.
Yeah, "crap" might be a bit of an overstatement. I'm sure they'll be quite nice, even if the preferrable specs don't come standard you can still toss another stick of RAM in there, and likely pay an extra $50 for a better graphics card.
I still think that Steve-o might just make a surprise appearance at this thing, just to prove to the world that he's functional. Well, mostly just the stock market folks. That would be quite a move. And if he isn't there, he'll show up via the NEW iSight, and definitely will NOT be wearing a hospital gown. That would be an image of weakness, which would be bad for Apple's strength on Wall Street. Even if he's still in the hospital, he'll throw on the patented black mock turtleneck before he clicks on the iChat window.
-Joe
loneAzdgari
Aug 18, 2004, 12:09 PM
I have to say that i was quite disappointed to hear that Steve wasn't going to attend, seeing as this is the first Apple keynote that I'll see. Hopefully Phil will be able to bring some of Jobs' magic to release the new new iMac :) . Plus, I've never heard of an uneventful Apple keynote, let alone a bad one, so it should be just as fun with the added suspense of not knowing how/when steve will turn up.
G4-power
Aug 18, 2004, 12:09 PM
Yeah, "crap" might be a bit of an overstatement. I'm sure they'll be quite nice, even if the preferrable specs don't come standard you can still toss another stick of RAM in there, and likely pay an extra $50 for a better graphics card.
I still think that Steve-o might just make a surprise appearance at this thing, just to prove to the world that he's functional. Well, mostly just the stock market folks. That would be quite a move. And if he isn't there, he'll show up via the NEW iSight, and definitely will NOT be wearing a hospital gown. That would be an image of weakness, which would be bad for Apple's strength on Wall Street. Even if he's still in the hospital, he'll throw on the patented black mock turtleneck before he clicks on the iChat window.
-Joe
If the high-end iMac G5's don't get better graphics cards than they have now, I'm not impressed. More RAM is a must (in the PowerMac's too!)!
Hope we see Steve in some way, and I hope too that he isn't wearing a hospital gown. Even though he would, it'd be like, custom-made for him with an Apple-logo and all...okay, just kidding. Wonder if new iSights and Keynote 2 are coming, though I don't see any reason why the iSight should be upgraded.
~Shard~
Aug 18, 2004, 12:28 PM
I have to say that i was quite disappointed to hear that Steve wasn't going to attend, seeing as this is the first Apple keynote that I'll see. Hopefully Phil will be able to bring some of Jobs' magic to release the new new iMac :) . Plus, I've never heard of an uneventful Apple keynote, let alone a bad one, so it should be just as fun with the added suspense of not knowing how/when steve will turn up.
Well, given Steve's current condition and circumstances I don't think this should have come as a surprise/disappointment to anybody...
swissmann
Aug 18, 2004, 01:35 PM
I love the way Steve presents. Hope this is as entertaining.
wdlove
Aug 18, 2004, 02:53 PM
Well, given Steve's current condition and circumstances I don't think this should have come as a surprise/disappointment to anybody...
Not at all surprised. I just wish that they would update us of Steve's condition. Someone of his notoriety, the news media keep a close watch.
fpnc
Aug 18, 2004, 03:41 PM
I think some may have misunderstood my previous post (no G5 iMac at Paris Expo). I didn't mean to imply that Apple would delay the introduction just because Steve is still in recovery (although he should be out of the hospital by now). What I'm saying is that based upon news reports during the last few days it appears that the G5 processor situation with IBM is even worse than anyone has previously predicted. Thus, it's possible that the G5 iMac will not be introduced simply because it's not ready to ship (poor G5 availability). If that is true there is really no reason for Steve to make an effort to do the keynote himself.
The G5 iMac is going to be a huge event given that the last big news in Macintosh hardware was in June 2003 (Power Mac G5). Thus, the G5 iMac is going to be the biggest news concerning Macintosh hardware in over a year (and likely the last big event until we see a G5-based PowerBook). Therefore, I think if the G5 iMac was ready that Steve would find some way to do the introduction himself.
j33pd0g
Aug 18, 2004, 06:08 PM
I bet Phil comes out with a black shirt and jeans! I also think Steve and Phil will have an iChat conversation. Anybody else? To stay on topic though, I believe Phil is a good choice... he's one of those guys you don't have to know to really like. He's got a distinct speaking voice too.
zelmo
Aug 18, 2004, 07:21 PM
Noah strolls out in a black turtle and jeans, to a rabid audience response, and starts in with his finely honed Steve schtick. Phil comes rushing out accompanied by two or three security folk, who gang tackle Noah and lay a cattle prod on his ass [OK, last bit is a stretch, but it'd be funny]. Everyone has a great laugh, and Phil gets down to business, introducing a few new Tiger features and maybe Keynote 2. When it comes time to re-hash the iChat features in Tiger, guess who is part of the chat group?
Steve will not be in Paris, but he'll still end up as the guy to introduce the new iMac G5. He couldn't let it be any other way. As much as I respect Phil, Steve is the only guy for the job. :D :D
cesar
Aug 18, 2004, 11:56 PM
keynote 2.0? appleworks 7.0? new imac g5? new powerbook G4 2.0GHz? new iSight ?
new Tiger demo?
aethier
Aug 19, 2004, 12:22 AM
Noah strolls out in a black turtle and jeans, to a rabid audience response, and starts in with his finely honed Steve schtick. Phil comes rushing out accompanied by two or three security folk, who gang tackle Noah and lay a cattle prod on his ass [OK, last bit is a stretch, but it'd be funny].
if that happened, i wouldn't be surprised to hear comic book guy saying "best keynote ever"
aethier
PS: phil shiller, should be a good presenter, we have seen enough of him as steve's sidekick durring intro's of new products etc, it is time that he gets the stage for himself
displaced
Aug 19, 2004, 04:19 AM
Thus, it's possible that the G5 iMac will not be introduced simply because it's not ready to ship (poor G5 availability).
That's never stopped Apple announcing a product before :)
Having said that, with the PPC970FX production concerns, I wouldn't be surprised to see the G5 iMacs announced with the caveat that they'll be taking pre-orders only. The 'availability' date may be a month or so in the future.
Assuming for a sec that the G5 iMacs aren't mentioned at all, when would the next opportunity for a product launch be? Off the top of my head, I'd say not until next year. With the current iMac being pretty much EOL'd already, we'd be talking a significant amount of time without an iMac in the line-up.
G4-power
Aug 19, 2004, 07:26 AM
I bet Phil comes out with a black shirt and jeans! I also think Steve and Phil will have an iChat conversation. Anybody else? To stay on topic though, I believe Phil is a good choice... he's one of those guys you don't have to know to really like. He's got a distinct speaking voice too.
What I thought too. In quite much every Stevenote I've seen, and some Quicktime events, Phil has been talking in them, and I've found it comfortable to see him presenting something. He has a good, relaxed way of talking about things and enough "charisma" to do the keynote.
Having Steve in the keynote, even getting him to present the iMac G5 through iChat AV would be great.
JGowan
Aug 19, 2004, 06:28 PM
Having a stunt-Steve was expected.
What I'd like to know is if Steve will participate from home. Will he reveal new products via iChat?This will be a TOTAL STEVE MOVE to at least make an appearance at the conference via iChat. Thanks for considering it as it got me thinking...
I don't think he'll announcing anything, but I can see him talking a bit about his brush with cancer and his recovery process, along with making everyone feel good about his condition being nothing to worry about.
JGowan
Aug 19, 2004, 06:30 PM
IMO, there will be no G5 iMac introduction unless Steve does the presentation himself. I suspect the recent news reports concerning IBM's continued problems with G5 production means that the new iMac is going to be delayed longer than was anticipated even one month ago.
I wish Steve Jobs all the best in his recovery from surgery, but I wonder if his no-show at the Paris Expo might actually mean that the G5 iMac has been delayed yet again (beyond original estimates).No. I doubt you're right. He's got a big Ego but not that big ("No one gets the new iMac unless I and I alone announce it")... no way. There is money to be made... this will all go as planned. End of sentence. End of story.
JGowan
Aug 19, 2004, 06:40 PM
... could someome possibly make an educated guess as to whether we will see new PowerBook revisions at the Paris Expo. And if so, what are the most likely specifications?They won't be introduced. The iMac is too important to introduce it along with another huge product. Better to get two announcements (twice the buzz) than just one big buzz.
It's like when the new new displays were recently announced,... there were no other discussions about other hardware -- it just keeps things more focused about the most important thing. Then it was the new displays... now it's the iMac.
wdlove
Aug 19, 2004, 08:27 PM
They won't be introduced. The iMac is too important to introduce it along with another huge product. Better to get two announcements (twice the buzz) than just one big buzz.
It's like when the new new displays were recently announced,... there were no other discussions about other hardware -- it just keeps things more focused about the most important thing. Then it was the new displays... now it's the iMac.
I can't imagine anything that Apple plans to introduce that would be bigger than the iMac. The market will certainly be negative if Apple hold off on this, would indicate weakness. Just the fact that iMacs aren't shipping means something.
beatle888
Aug 19, 2004, 09:42 PM
Phil isn't as charismatic as Steve. Gonna be a hard sale, especially if these iMacs are the crap they are reported to be.
um crappy imacs? comments like that come from people who lack vision.
JGowan
Aug 20, 2004, 12:07 AM
I can't imagine anything that Apple plans to introduce that would be bigger than the iMac. The market will certainly be negative if Apple hold off on this, would indicate weakness. Just the fact that iMacs aren't shipping means something.A new Powerbook with a Dual-Core chip not big? Certainly you're correct in saying that the iMac would be the bigger of the news, but the other is no slouch. I'm sure you can agree with me that both are pretty big news. Which supports my argument that only the one big news (the new iMac [which we all agree is huge]) is gonna make this ... and not the mention of the PB, which is the product I was responding to when ebally asked for opinions is announcements would be made. iMacs will certainly be announced (you quoting me makes it seem like I didn't think it would be)... try and be a little more discerning when deciding to quote someone when you have an opinion. There was probably someone out there who could have helped your cause other than me.
JGowan
Aug 20, 2004, 12:10 AM
Phil isn't as charismatic as Steve. Gonna be a hard sale, especially if these iMacs are the crap they are reported to be.If you're going to pose as a mac fan with the "applekid" bit, at least throw a link around of all this reported crap you're talking about. So far, there has been nothing but rumors surrounding the new iMacs. Who knows what about what? Certainly not you.
wdlove
Aug 20, 2004, 02:23 PM
If you're going to pose as a mac fan with the "applekid" bit, at least throw a link around of all this reported crap you're talking about. So far, there has been nothing but rumors surrounding the new iMacs. Who knows what about what? Certainly not you.
Everything that I've heard has been very positive about the expected new iMac. They have a good consumer product, don't think they plan to disappoint.
bonk
Aug 20, 2004, 03:15 PM
Yah, the new iMacs are gonna suck with those crappy slow G5 chips in them... :rolleyes:
right - ives is such a hack, too - I'm sure he'll roll out just another in a long string of crappy, thoughtless designs.
bonk
Aug 20, 2004, 03:19 PM
you guys are really crazy for not wanting steve to be in his hospital gown. I want to see him in that gown... from the back.. you know how those things dont close all the way... hubba HUBBA
ha!
zelmo
Aug 20, 2004, 05:29 PM
PS: phil shiller, should be a good presenter, we have seen enough of him as steve's sidekick durring intro's of new products etc, it is time that he gets the stage for himself
From those that I have seen, Phil has done a great job every time he takes part in a presentation. I just think that Steve ought to be visible, and that he will naturally become involved somehow in the intro of the iMac. No question that Phil could do it alone, but Steve needs to appear [via iChat is fine, even cool in a black mock turtle kind of way] to show the shareholders and Wallstreet types that he is recovering nicely. Remember, many people believe that Apple might not keep up the insanely great things without him in total control [fair or not].
edgar_is_good
Aug 20, 2004, 05:56 PM
you guys are really crazy for not wanting steve to be in his hospital gown. I want to see him in that gown... from the back.. you know how those things dont close all the way... hubba HUBBA
OK, I'm as big a fan of apple and Steve-o as the next guy, but dude...
tex210
Aug 27, 2004, 01:48 PM
wdlove
Aug 27, 2004, 02:32 PM
you guys are really crazy for not wanting steve to be in his hospital gown. I want to see him in that gown... from the back.. you know how those things dont close all the way... hubba HUBBA
ha!
We should all pray that Steve Jobs is no longer in a hospital gown or the hospital. If his diagnosis and surgery was as reported, the he would be at home recovering. Even two weeks is a real extended hospital stay these days. Then send patients home while still ill, so recovery can continue at home. That is where home care nurses are needed.
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