Do you buy more CD now than before mp3 came along?

[crassusad44]

With the contant war between the RIAA and the music loving people, I thought this might be an interesting thread...

Do you buy more or less CDs now, than you did before mp3 came along?

Here's my take:
I have never been a big CD buyer, but after I got broadband and started to download a lot of mp3s, I have caught myself buying more CDs. Why? Because mp3 gives me the opportunity to evalulate the music before I buy. If I download a couple of songs from a new album, I usually end up buying the whole album. I also sometimes browse the web for random mp3s. When I find a new group I like, I often end up buying a CD. If it were not for mp3 I would never have bought System of a Down's CD «Toxicity», nor The Hives with «Veni, vidi, vicious».
The only CDs I do not buy, is the copy protected ones......

[job]

I never really bought CD's until after I got Limewire. Now I hear a band on the radio, etc. and download one or two songs and if I like it, I go out and buy the album.

Downloading songs has helped me to "try before I buy.." :)

[Mr. Anderson]

I haven't been buying CDs all that much anymore - there are so many options for music online and even the QT Radio selections aren't that bad. So I pretty much here everything I want - and I even have an XMRadio for the car and home - so that makes buying CDs even less of a need.

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[AlphaTech]

I still purchase cd's but right away I pull them into iTunes and toss the songs onto my iPod. I keep the cd's so that I can play them in the truck, or if I go to someone else's residence that only has a cd player (and nothing for me to plug the iPod into).

[2Step Garage]

There is something about buying a cd that makes it worth the $15 - 20 price tag. I dont know if its the sheer joy you get when you finally get the packaging off, or the smell of the plastic, but whatever it is, nothing beats holding that cd in your hand.

Plus the artwork on the cd alone, is enough for me to lay down some change.

man... i hear Virgin Mega Store calling my name... crap... BYE!

[job]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
I still purchase cd's but right away I pull them into iTunes and toss the songs onto my iPod. I keep the cd's so that I can play them in the truck, or if I go to someone else's residence that only has a cd player (and nothing for me to plug the iPod into).

Yeah, usually I just rip the CD's once I get them and never touch them after that. Sad really...

Or I just borrow a friends CD....;)

[mymemory]

I buy CD's too after listening the MP3, the CD's sounds better and it feels like the real thing, perhaps is the security of the media and the chance of getting the entire album, something that is not easy to get in the net.

To buy a CD is to be secure that there is not anything missing from that artist.

What I do is to get the CD name, look for the song list of the original album and look for them in the internet, but that can take even a week or more, if I really like the album I get the real thing, that is it. MP3 is just for tasting material.

[King Cobra]

I'm into getting the CDs now. Months ago and before that I had little interest in CDs. But since so many cool bands came along and I heard so many of their songs on the rad I decided that I better go with the CD, since there may be other songs not on the radio I like. Usually, this is the case.

[Nipsy]

I'm buying more cds than I used to, but there's one thing that never would have happened without MP3:

I'm seeing a lot of live shows from bands I would never have heard of otherwise. I like finding MP3 from some tiny little band in god knows where, and seeing them in a tiny venue a year later.

[blackpeter]

There are many bands I would have never considered before Limewire came along. I'm buying more CD's.

[big]

yep, buying cd's by the chance of hearing it on mp3, ie...I almost bought Bob Dylan's newest, till I heard it off Limewire...WOW! it was bad! no sale.

though I heard Lauryn Hill's newest double disk, ran out and got it! it's give and take on what is actually worth it or not.

[crassusad44]

Originally posted by big
though I heard Lauryn Hill's newest double disk, ran out and got it! it's give and take on what is actually worth it or not.

hmm, I'll have to try to get a couple of songs from it. This album is pretty new in Norway, so the online store did not have a song list. But it said the regular album was copy protected, but the double not...

Interesting to see most of us/you here at MR are buying the same amount or more CDs, though... Not that many who buy less. Something for the RIAA to consider??? :rolleyes: :eek: ;) :)

[big]

>hmm, I'll have to try to get a couple of songs from it.

careful, its very very very different. It took me 3 days of listening to it 24 hours a day to realize how good it is.

though I imagine I could almost like Poisin or other '80s rock bands if I did that too (almost)

Like Paul Simon's newest CD (which I initially ripped), it is so different form Graceland & Saints, though now I fully enjoyed it, so I went out and bought that too!

just about any music worth while (like software) is worth an appropriate price to own an original copy

[Nipsy]

Originally posted by crassusad44


Interesting to see most of us/you here at MR are buying the same amount or more CDs, though... Not that many who buy less. Something for the RIAA to consider??? :rolleyes: :eek: ;) :)

Sadly, the RIAA is too buereacratic and stale to 'consider' much. They need to rape artists and consmers to exist, although I still can't figure out why they exist.

I've decided to commit my self to a strict RIAA free regime. Most albums I buy aren't on major labels anyway, but I will be buying all my major label releases used (preferably on vinyl). It may screw the artist out of 50¢ a sale, but it screws the record companies out of $5. In this age, an artist can produce and distribute without a record company. An artists can do much of their own promotion without a record company. And without major labels & the RIAA, we wouln't have to suffer he likes of Aguiera, N'Sync, Spears, and all the other manufactured crap. Bring back music with merit!

The movie industry may be on the right track. Why does a feature length DVD (more content, newer technology, bigger plastic box) cost less than a CD in most cases? Because it is easier for everyone to BUY a $17 DVD than d/l it from LimeWire, eDonkey, etc. If they would just give up on the whole legislative horror...

[peterjhill]

I have been purchasing more CD's ever since I switched from my old Dell laptop to my current Ti800. I have had a few hundred CD's for a while, but looking through them to find what I want to listen to is generally a pain. I had considered getting a CD jukebox, but with an iPod, it is not worth it.

Since it so convienent to listen to music now, I am more interested in new releases.

[ShaolinMiddleFinger]

Thank God for MP3's because before them, I would be buying hundreds of crappy cd's for one song. My take is...if there's three good songs off that cd...buy it... if not...wait for the single. Lately, though, I haven't seen that many cd singles...:D

[britboy]

The only time i ever buy cd's is as a present for someone else. Other than that, i never have bought cd's, and still don't. I have no real need for them, what with the best radio station in the world (Capital FM) and a library of cd's belonging to my brother ;)

[bousozoku]

I have never bought many CDs. I've had a CD player since 1986 and own fewer than 75 CDs. I have about the same number of vinyl records. Whenever possible and available, I would buy the laserdisc or DVD of the artist, whether music videos or live performances. CDs are just too expensive. Originally, they said that the media was expensive and the process was expensive and it would all get cheaper. I believe it is cheaper for the manufacturer and the distributor, but the consumer and the artists don't see any benefits.

I have tried a couple of legally downloaded mp3 files and found that, with dialup, they're just not worth it. Perhaps, MPEG4 will change that. FM Stereo has gotten quite a bit better since the vinyl days and that's good enough for now.

[topicolo]

I've stopped buying cds because the RIAA are lying bitches. I mean, they are now targeting individual users for sharing music. Congress just passed a new ruling that allows the RIAA to hack into your computer to disable it if you have a reasonable possibility of having illegal mp3s! The RIAA are not supposed to delete files, but they can't really be held responsible if they do delete your files. This is outrageous and I'm boycotting cds.

[Joshlew]

I own a lot of CDs and still buy as much even though I own an iPod.:)

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by topicolo
I've stopped buying cds because the RIAA are lying bitches. I mean, they are now targeting individual users for sharing music. Congress just passed a new ruling that allows the RIAA to hack into your computer to disable it if you have a reasonable possibility of having illegal mp3s! The RIAA are not supposed to delete files, but they can't really be held responsible if they do delete your files. This is outrageous and I'm boycotting cds.

I'd like to see them try to hack into my TiBook... Never mind the fact that I am behind a firewall as well as on a closed network at home.

How are they supposed to know if the mp3 files you have are legal or not?? If a friend gives you a few mp3 files because you cannot get the same cd or if you rip some songs into iTunes for your own use, who's to say they will be able to tell the difference???

I think someone needs to open up several kegs of whoop-ass on them. Especially if they delete mp3 files that you pulled from cd's that you purchased, or that you were given (how many people get music cd's for holiday gifts? :eek: ).

Another reason why we need less government, not more.

[Durandal7]

I buy very few CDs. Between file sharing, streaming radio and old fashioned FM radio I have little use for them.

[iwantanewmac]

I never cared a lot for mp3. yes its handy because its so small that a lot of demos from my bands fit on my ipod.... but the sound quality....ahhh
I just rent cd's and burn them if a need only 2 or 3 songs.
I almost never buy new releases. They're to damn expensive here.

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac
I never cared a lot for mp3. yes its handy because its so small that a lot of demos from my bands fit on my ipod.... but the sound quality....ahhh
I just rent cd's and burn them if a need only 2 or 3 songs.
I almost never buy new releases. They're to damn expensive here.

You can set the quality when you make mp3 files as high, or low, as you want.

With no location listed for you the 'here' holds no meaning, ya twit. :eek:

Newbury Comics often sells brand new releases for under $15 (closer to the $12 mark). :p Ya cheap bastage... :p

[Royal Pineapple]

i have never bought a CD in my life.
this is not because im a gready pig who likes to mooch of of other peoples music collection.
but because i never was intrested in music until i got itunes.
now i am busy commiting my familly and friend's music collection to my HD;)
i have also been known to use limewire on occasion

[SilvorX]

im buying more cds than i did b4 i first heard bout napster, back b4 i heard bout napster, i only had 2 cds, now i have bout god who knows how many now lol, n a couple dvds :S

[iwantanewmac]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


You can set the quality when you make mp3 files as high, or low, as you want.

With no location listed for you the 'here' holds no meaning, ya twit. :eek:

Newbury Comics often sells brand new releases for under $15 (closer to the $12 mark). :p Ya cheap bastage... :p

I know 1 can set the quality as high or low as 1 wishes........duuuuuuh....
even on the highest quality some cd's still sound like ****.
And if you read some of my other posts (and I know you did because u posted there as well) you could know where I live.
Most new releases here in Holland (there ya go) are around the $20 to $25 mark. The artists get like $0.10.
Ill just copy it and donate $5 to each artist that played on it. :)

[Beej]

Since MP3s, I only buy CDs by bands I really love, or by Australian artists.

[synergy]

I used to buy alot of CDs. But I got fed up with buying a CD for one good song and the rest is utter crap. The record industry just loves to churn out one hit wonders. Now my collecting has turned to DVDs. :)

[peterjhill]

Originally posted by Beej
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[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac
And if you read some of my other posts (and I know you did because u posted there as well) you could know where I live.
That may be true, but then again, you assume that I have read any of your other posts, and/or remember anything you placed within them. Putting a location up in the information makes it so that you don't have to go hunting to find out where someone is. :rolleyes: It's NOT that difficult to put the info up, since some of us have better things to do, and much more important information to keep track of then where the **** you are. :p

Most new releases here in Holland (there ya go) are around the $20 to $25 mark. The artists get like $0.10.
Ill just copy it and donate $5 to each artist that played on it. :)

Anyone know what the US$ to holland money exchange rate is?? I do know that there are plenty of record/music stores up here that sell cd's for less then you find them at the large department stores. The same cd might cost $18 at Sears, costs $12 at Newbury Comics.

BTW, selling just 1 million copies of a cd (not hard for most current bands/artists if they are any good) would give them $100,000 if the 10¢ of the cd price is accurate. Anyone in the music industry (contract negotiators, or people that actually know them) have real figures for that?? Not speculation, but real world cases...

[iwantanewmac]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AlphaTech
[B]
That may be true, but then again, you assume that I have read any of your other posts, and/or remember anything you placed within them. Putting a location up in the information makes it so that you don't have to go hunting to find out where someone is. :rolleyes: It's NOT that difficult to put the info up, since some of us have better things to do, and much more important information to keep track of then where the **** you are. :p

Well now you know. :)
I just don't like people to know where I live.



Anyone know what the US$ to holland money exchange rate is??

WOW I expected that you knew about the EURO in europe....well the EURO is at 1.02 $ right now.

I do know that there are plenty of record/music stores up here that sell cd's for less then you find them at the large department stores.

Actually the large depeartment stores are cheaper.
And getting cd's for a nice price is getting harder and harder. If you want to have something nice I mean. Not the latest release of agaaaain a new R&B **** dancing group.


The same cd might cost $18 at Sears, costs $12 at Newbury Comics.

BTW, selling just 1 million copies of a cd (not hard for most current bands/artists if they are any good) would give them $100,000 if the 10¢ of the cd price is accurate.

Well I know A LOT of great musicians but they don't sell at all.
Britney spears sells....but she can't even sing...sigh. it's not fair :)

[coolocity]

I really do love listening to music before I buy it, so I download a track or two. Then I buy the CD, and rip my own MP3s right off the CD, no sharing. I do think it is wrong that some people don't buy CDs anymore simply because they can download them online for free. Have a couple friend that do this, convos can be as follows.

Friend : Yeah, I downloaded the entire Eminem album.
John : Really, why did you do that?
Friend : I really like his music, respect him as an artest.
John : Pretty disrespectful to steal his music.
Friend : Shut up.

Yeah, if all else fails - be ignorant. :rolleyes:

[hesdeadjim]

... but not because of MP3. In fact, I still listen a lot to the old CD's i have or the MP3's I ripped from them. The truth of the matter is, that I haven't heard an Album I've wanted in the last year with two exceptions: System of a Down and Tool, both of which I own. And The last 3-4 years have been similar.

[peterjhill]

I just bought six new cds, that I am ripping into iTunes as we speak, and after which, I will put them on a shelf and not touch for a very long time.

[King Cobra]

For cheap CDs (and DVDs) my father signed up with Columbia House somethin'r'other and the CDs there are listed for as low as $5.99. (With taxes and other ***** it comes out to around $8 per CD.)

I got a CD two days ago (7/29) and 4 CDs yesterday, including the new Linkin Park Reanimation CD (first one to buy the CD at the nearby Ames). What I do is reorganize the mp3 collection I have and delete extras to make things easier for me when transferring the songs from the CD onto the iPod.

[zarathustra]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac
I just rent cd's and burn them if a need only 2 or 3 songs.
I almost never buy new releases. They're to damn expensive here.

RENT CDs????? :eek: What store/company rents music CDs???? I think you are full of hot air.

[iwantanewmac]

Originally posted by zarathustra


RENT CDs????? :eek: What store/company rents music CDs???? I think you are full of hot air.


WTF! yes I said rent...can't you read? :)

there are two company's here that rent cd's.
if you wanna bet..be my guest.

[crassusad44]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac

WTF! yes I said rent...can't you read? :)

there are two company's here that rent cd's.
if you wanna bet..be my guest.

Rent CDs... Good concept... Rent, rip, listen, enjoy :D :p

[sneed]

I think the music industry is missing a huge opportunity by fighting sharing schemes. Radio has become so homogeneous that fringe and older acts have little chance of finding new audiences without alternative means. Sure, they may want to control what we hear, but ultimately it is the fringe that breathes new life into their industry. When are they going to get the clue?

BTW, an alternative to renting CD's may be to go to your public library. Not great for newer stuff, but they tend to have decent collections none the less.

[sneed]

As to whether it is fair to the artists... I was under the impression that artist made most of their money from touring rather than royalties. What's the beef?

[iwantanewmac]

Originally posted by sneed
As to whether it is fair to the artists... I was under the impression that artist made most of their money from touring rather than royalties. What's the beef?

That's not really true. there are lots of bands that had 1 worldwide hit and still live on the royalties........
most of it is R&B or britney type of crap though.
but not all.

[sneed]

Originally posted by iwantanewmac


That's not really true. there are lots of bands that had 1 worldwide hit and still live on the royalties........
most of it is R&B or britney type of crap though.
but not all.

Are we talking about royalties from record sales, or royalties from broadcast, commercials, etc.?

[topicolo]

Why don't we just redirect our misplaced Steve Jobs anger at RIAA execs? I know they deserve a good nut kicking more than SJ

[hesdeadjim]

As to whether it is fair to the artists... I was under the impression that artist made most of their money from touring rather than royalties. What's the beef?

Yes and no, bands make the most money on tours who are popular and not necesairly one hit wonders. The problem is though, the record company usually funds the tour (at least part of it), so if they have no sales, the company is unwilling to send them on a huge tour.