maybe fs: dual 450, 40 gigs, 256 ram

[fowler.]

It's a super bare bones machine. Well, compared to today's standards. But it runs 10.3.5 fine and I've had no problems with it since I've had it.

basically..

dual 450 g4 (10.3.5)
256mb ram
40 gig hd
16mb video
dvd-rom

also comes with mouse, keyboard and power cord.

Any other questions, feel free to contact me.

I'm just entertaining offers.. or recomendations for how much I can/should sell it for.

thanks.

[TEG]

I think it would do well at about $300-400.

In fact, I know someone who is looking for a machine about that level, but for about $250.

TEG

[fowler.]

I was thinking $350 shipped.. if your friend is interested, lemme know.

edit, I suck at engrish

[vniow]

Crap, if I had about $100 more I'd get it right now.

Arrgh....

[fowler.]

keep saving those pennies :)

btw, Portland?

[vniow]

Santa Cruz actually. Why, are there a lot of dykes who won't date me there too?

[fowler.]

Depends, do you have a mullet and wear flanel with Napo Dyno moon boots?

One thing I noticed while visiting my dad.

[vniow]

Depends, do you have a mullet and wear flanel with Napo Dyno moon boots?

Don'tthink so. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=788169#post788169)

Hmm, maybe I'm too femme, perhaps shaving the head would do the trick...

[cubist]

Actually, $350 is a very good price for a dual.

[davecuse]

What type of video card does this have? If you're not sure exactly what card, what type of outputs does it use?

[Mord]

What type of video card does this have? If you're not sure exactly what card, what type of outputs does it use?

unless he has changed to some wird ati, 3dfx matrox or formac retail 16mb card which i highly doubt it will be a 16MB ati rage pro with adc and vga output be awear this card cannot push newer adc and dvi apple displays you would need to upgrade it to a radeon 9000

[fowler.]

unless he has changed to some wird ati, 3dfx matrox or formac retail 16mb card which i highly doubt it will be a 16MB ati rage pro with adc and vga output be awear this card cannot push newer adc and dvi apple displays you would need to upgrade it to a radeon 9000

My 20" cinema display won't work on this machine because of the cards limitations. But my 17" lcd studio display works just fine.

[davecuse]

My 20" cinema display won't work on this machine because of the cards limitations. But my 17" lcd studio display works just fine.

So does it have an ADC or DVI port? Dual or single port? Any type of s-video or composite out?

[fowler.]

Overview

Claiming "two brains are better than one," Apple introduced the first dual processor Power Macs since the 9600MP, which had two 200 MHz 604e processors. Although Mac OS 9 has some multiprocessing support, until OS X shipped, only a few applications (such as Photoshop) took advantage of the second processor.

Fortunately for the buyer, Apple added the second G4 processor without raising the price of the Power Mac G4. This meant that anyone buying a "Mystic" G4 would be ready for the multiprocessor enabled OS X.

Because of voltage differences between the AGP 2x and 4x specifications, AGP 4x cards may be electronically incompatible with computers designed for AGP 2x cards, although many cards are designed to work in both 2x and 4x slots. Be sure to check compatibility before purchasing any AGP 4x card for this Power Mac.

Details
400 MHz single-CPU model also made (see specs for G4/Sawtooth)
G4/450 MP introduced 2000.07.19 at US$2,499; discontinued 2001.01.18
G4/500 MP introduced 2000.07.19 at US$3,499; discontinued 2001.01.18
requires Mac OS 8.6 or later
CPU: dual 450/500 MHz PPC G4
bus: 100 MHz
CPU performance: 158 (450 MHz), 165 (500 MHz), Speedmark
FPU performance: unknown
RAM: 128/256 MB standard on 450/500 MHz models, expandable to 1.5 GB using PC100 SDRAM (3.3V, unbuffered, 64-bit, 168-pin, 100 MHz) in 4 DIMM slots
VRAM: 16 MB
Video: ATI Rage 128 Pro in AGP 2x slot; supports resolutions to 1600x1200 with 32-bit support, VGA connector, and digital video output for Cinema Display.
L2 cache: 1 MB 2:1 backside cache per processor
hard drive: 30/40 GB 7200 rpm Ultra ATA/66 on 400/450/500 MHz models
DVD-ROM on G4/450 MP
DVD-RAM on G4/500 MP
internal Zip drive optional
three 64-bit PCI slots
internal 56k modem standard
two 400 Mbps FireWire ports
two 12 Mbps USB ports for keyboard, mouse, and peripherals
10/100/1000Base-T ethernet connector on back of computer
antenna and connector for AirPort card
size (HxWxD): 17.0" x 8.9" x 18.4"
weight: 30.0 lb.
Gestalt ID: n/a
battery: 3.6V lithium
upgrade path: none yet, although CPU upgrades are likely
Accelerators & Upgrades
8x SuperDrive DVD±RW upgrade, MCE Technologies, $149. 8x4x12x DVD, 24x24x40x CD. 2 MB buffer. Requires OS 9 or OS X.
for CPU upgrades, see our Guide to Power Mac G4 Upgrades
Online Resources
Sonata SD, Sonnet Tech, 2004.06.01. First new PCI video card for the Mac in ages sells for just US$99, supports OS 7.5.3 and later plus OS X 10.1.5 and later, works with VGA or old Mac monitors, 16 MB VRAM.
Mac OS 9 compatibility, upgrades, and resources, Charles Moore, Miscellaneous Ramblings, 2003.05.05. Which Macs can still boot into the classic Mac OS, where to buy OS 9, and how to obtain the available OS updates.
1000 MHz Power Mac bonanza, Bare Feats, 2003.04.12. Comparison shows how much a second CPU can help. "...it's never a liability to have two processors."
Are two brains better than one?, Dan Knight, Mac Daniel, 2003.03.24. It sounds reasonable that two processors are better than one, but how much better is a dual processor Power Mac G4 than a single processor model?
Shot in the foot again: Firmware update disables RAM, Dan Knight, Mac Musings, 2001.03.25. "...we should not be at risk of losing some or all of the memory in our Macs because of a firmware update."
SCSI and FireWire Disk Modes, Paulo Rodrigues, Tangerine Fusion, 2000.11.29. How to use SCSI Disk Mode and FireWire Target Disk Mode for ultrafast file transfers.
Hands on: Dual processor Power Mac G4, Michael Munger, Mac Observer, 2000.09.22.
Hands on: G4 multiprocessing lesson for the masses, Michael Munger, On the Flip Side, Mac Observer, 2000.08.22. Symmetric Multiprocessing defined -- and what it means for Mac users.
Review: Sonnet Tempo Ultra ATA66 Macintosh PCI Host Adapter, Dan Knight, 2000.07.28. The most economical way to put IDE support in a PCI Power Mac.
Apple Spec: Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)
Cautions
Power Mac G4 (AGP): Single channel SCSI cards may interfere with wake from sleep, Apple Knowledge Base, 2002.07.22. Computer may incorrectly assume card supports power down mode and not wake properly from sleep under OS 8.6.

[Mord]

So does it have an ADC or DVI port? Dual or single port? Any type of s-video or composite out?


adc and vga thats what it has only pre dual g4's had dvi ati rage's

[fowler.]

adc and vga thats what it has only pre dual g4's had dvi ati rage's

In any case, the machine is basically sold :)

[diehlr]

In any case, the machine is basically sold :)

Can I ask how much you got for it? Just curious. You can wait til after the deal is done if you want. I just like to keep tabs on going prices on items.

[fowler.]

I sold it for my asking price. $350 shipped.

[vniow]

I sold it for my asking price. $350 shipped.

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