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kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:21 PM
there is a commercial. why wouldn't there be. cd slot is not on keyboard, but on side of screen, vertical.
fluidinclusion
Aug 30, 2004, 09:22 PM
Instead of the EyeMac, it can be the EyeStalk.
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 09:22 PM
Ooh...Now I feel sad.... :(
LOL!
lol now I'm embarrassed :o
ibjoshua
Aug 30, 2004, 09:23 PM
For any doubters out there about the cpu being behind the screen and the rest of the guts with it, it will certainly all be behind the monitor. Certified and true.
Does it have a vertically or horizontally mounted optical drive?
i_b_joshua
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:24 PM
The new G5 iMac will have a removeable display with wireless capability so you can use it anywhere in the house. This is what Apple does, come up with stuff that nobody expects. They've also been know to drop hints to throw everyone off. Wouldn't that be cool if you could trade in your 17" screen for a 20" when you are ready to upgrade? Mark my words! It will happen!
i cant remember anyone whose ever said "mark my words" ever actually being right lol, it always seems to b the ppl who are soo sure of these things that are the fursest off lol. especially since most never have any concrete evidence or something to show us. nonetheless this would b cool
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:25 PM
josh-look a few relpies above yours.
AppleJustWorks
Aug 30, 2004, 09:26 PM
Anyone have any info on that mentioned but not explained commercial?
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:26 PM
removable? sorry, no.
Stella
Aug 30, 2004, 09:27 PM
..or a option of having no display.
Anyway, I'm not going to say you are wrong or right.. I remember a few hours before MWSF when someone posted to these forums that Apple were about to release a 17" powerbook...
... oh did we all laugh ( A 17" laptop would be far too big etc etc) and he got quite a lot of Flames too..
.. and yet...
The new G5 iMac will have a removeable display with wireless capability so you can use it anywhere in the house. This is what Apple does, come up with stuff that nobody expects. They've also been know to drop hints to throw everyone off. Wouldn't that be cool if you could trade in your 17" screen for a 20" when you are ready to upgrade? Mark my words! It will happen!
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:28 PM
kontact
you seem to know a lot about this, wat makes u so sure about this ? how do u know all of this, and wat else do u know....
unfortunatelyu i have no option but to doubt u as of now pretty much because ive seen ppl like u way too often and they never seem to know wat theyre talkign about , no offence
ibjoshua
Aug 30, 2004, 09:28 PM
josh-look a few relpies above yours.
yeah, ta.
virtually consecutive posts.
if you're right someone must have come up with a way to make fast drives work vertically.
i_b_joshua
ps your reply took more effort than just answering again. :)
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:30 PM
rock-no offense taken. i never had to sign a non-discl agreement, but i've worked with a few who might have ;)
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 09:31 PM
Kontact, out of curiosity... can you give us some details about the look of the new iMac in that commercial>? what color is it? Was it plastic, metal? etc
thanks :)
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:31 PM
yeah, ta.
virtually consecutive posts.
if you're right someone must have come up with a way to make fast drives work vertically.
i_b_joshua
ps your reply took more effort than just answering again. :)\
i know theres a flat panel pc with everything behind the monitor and an optical drive, vertical , on the side, unfortunately i have no idea who makes it or the name and im too lazy too look it up, but a relative member of mine has it thnaai asodont knw o wel the opticaldive work
relimw
Aug 30, 2004, 09:31 PM
Instead of the EyeMac, it can be the EyeStalk.
LOL!
AppleJustWorks
Aug 30, 2004, 09:32 PM
Look the iMac G6!!!!!
http://www.spymac.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=113669
LOL! :rolleyes:
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 09:32 PM
bluetooth wireless keyboard and mouse. featuring the Black Eyed Peas promoting Garage Band software.
OH ;) And will that keyboard be in a metallic finish?
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:34 PM
rock-no offense taken. i never had to sign a non-discl agreement, but i've worked with a few who might have ;)
welll im sure u can understand the hard time i or others would have believing u. especially since ur a MR newbie you dont have a reputation for us to believe in. and im sure it wuld also b a lot of fun too piss off a bunch of imac hjopefulls a few hours before they come out (hopefully)
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:36 PM
Look the iMac G6!!!!!
http://www.spymac.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=113669
LOL! :rolleyes:
wow that, that was acutally very, very funny hahah (and for anyone who doesnt get it, an obvious mock of the fake imac G5 elevator photos lol ) !!!!
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:36 PM
as far as colour and keyboard finish, i'm sorry i can't help on that one. sony is the one who makes a vaio similiar in design, but much uglier for sure.
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:37 PM
as far as colour and keyboard finish, i'm sorry i can't help on that one. sony is the one who makes a vaio similiar in design, but much uglier for sure.
because u dont know, uy forget ? or that uve been sworne to secrescy about ? JW
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 09:38 PM
welll im sure u can understand the hard time i or others would have believing u. especially since ur a MR newbie you dont have a reputation for us to believe in. and im sure it wuld also b a lot of fun too piss off a bunch of imac hjopefulls a few hours before they come out (hopefully)
Yeah I know what you mean, that's why I asked for those details about how it looked lol.
Ya know when I first got on here it was around the time of WWDC, and I didn't understand why nobody was listening to newbies. Now I know why, there's about ten times the amount of newbies right now as normal. :p
AppleJustWorks
Aug 30, 2004, 09:39 PM
Kontact, you are killing us here, now I really have no right to say this but I will anyway:
If you have information and are not willing to share with us, and are not willing to contribute to this forum, please don't tease us with these worthless bits of hardly relevant information.
*Rant Over* :o
zelmo
Aug 30, 2004, 09:39 PM
Unreality check:
I posted this back in early July, and I stilll dream...
17" 1.6 G5/512/80 for $1,499
20" 1.8 G5/512/120 for $1,899
HEADLESS 1.8/512/120 G5 for $1,299
•CPU housing: 4"H x 16"W x 6"D, perforated brushed Al housing to match CD, just enough heft to counterbalance the LCD
•display stand coming out of the top with VESA compatibility
•cool pulsing chamelionic Apple logo on face of display stand
•iPod dock on top of CPU case
•BT keyboard that tastefully docks to the face of CPU to recharge without blocking the optical drive
• two button scroll BT mouse that docks to the top of the CPU case to recharge
• standard 4X SuperDrive
corbin_a2
Aug 30, 2004, 09:39 PM
So kontact, whats the skinny on the new imac? if you worked on the commercial what can you tell us about it? Color? Size?
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 09:40 PM
as far as colour and keyboard finish, i'm sorry i can't help on that one. sony is the one who makes a vaio similiar in design, but much uglier for sure.
Mmm.
So you haven't seen the imac?
What BEPs song is it set to?
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:40 PM
Yeah I know what you mean, that's why I asked for those details about how it looked lol.
Ya know when I first got on here it was around the time of WWDC, and I didn't understand why nobody was listening to newbies. Now I know why, there's about ten times the amount of newbies right now as normal. :p
yep, and everyone is just as sure as the other that theyve seen the new product and are sure what its gonna b like..
yeah i also always wondered y know one ever listened to n e thinh i said as a newb
pentajigga
Aug 30, 2004, 09:40 PM
knowing a thing or two about patents.. figues or descriptions are not meant to be indicative of the product other than to give an example of the invention. i would assume that this example is not indicative of a final product that looks much like this.
for example the figures could be used solely to show the capabilities of such an arm... nothing more
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 09:40 PM
wow that, that was acutally very, very funny hahah (and for anyone who doesnt get it, an obvious mock of the fake imac G5 elevator photos lol ) !!!!
Oh now I get it lol, yeah that is pretty funny :D
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:42 PM
Oh now I get it lol, yeah that is pretty funny :D
i hope that wasnt sarcastic ! :rolleyes: :)
technocoy
Aug 30, 2004, 09:44 PM
said something about 2 elevating paltforms that come out of the floor instead of one this year.... maybe alluding to 2 NEW products? the new media device using teh 60 gig drives and then the iMac? hopefully... we'll see!
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 09:45 PM
i hope that wasnt sarcastic ! :rolleyes: :)
no no no, I really didn't understand it at first. But when you said elevator box... then it clicked (I'm just honestly a little slow :p )
SilentPanda
Aug 30, 2004, 09:45 PM
Mmm.
So you haven't seen the imac?
What BEPs song is it set to?
I think the poster was saying that the Black Eyed Peas were promoting Garageband in a commercial... sorta maybe like the commercials played at the expo regarding the iLife suite. Could be taken either way though.
Stella
Aug 30, 2004, 09:45 PM
You know the real reason why G5's are in short supply?
Apple and IBM have done a bloody good job of misinformation... its not really manufacturing shortages. Nope... Thats what they would just like us to believe.
For the past few months Apple have been manufacturing, to ensure a good supply to meet demand for..
G5 PowerBooks - speeds of -
1.8Ghz, 2.0Ghz and 2.5 Ghz.
All models Liquid cooled, of course. Unfortunately the 12" will stay as G4.. unfortunately the combination of 90nm G5 and Liquid cooling are not sufficient.
Unfortunately they are not 1" thick anymore.. but about the thickness of an iBook. I think we can forgive Apple for that.
:-)
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:46 PM
i didn't work on the commercial, i just worked with a person who did. and we had a little discussion about it. if a stream were to be available, that would have to be a leak at a post production house, and i doubt anyone would risk a $$$$$ of it on pissing of the client and/or getting fired. if i had worked on the commercial, i probably wouldn't be saying anything because of legal reasons. maybe a newbie, but lurker long time.
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:47 PM
said something about 2 elevating paltforms that come out of the floor instead of one this year.... maybe alluding to 2 NEW products? the new media device using teh 60 gig drives and then the iMac? hopefully... we'll see!
probably just for the diffrent sized imac screens
but heres to hoping
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 09:47 PM
said something about 2 elevating paltforms that come out of the floor instead of one this year.... maybe alluding to 2 NEW products? the new media device using teh 60 gig drives and then the iMac? hopefully... we'll see!
Didn't they have like 3 elevators for the last round of screens...
Its just for the 17" and 20" iMacs I think...shame really...
AppleJustWorks
Aug 30, 2004, 09:48 PM
i didn't work on the commercial, i just worked with a person who did. and we had a little discussion about it. if a stream were to be available, that would have to be a leak at a post production house, and i doubt anyone would risk a $$$$$ of it on pissing of the client and/or getting fired. if i had worked on the commercial, i probably wouldn't be saying anything because of legal reasons. maybe a newbie, but lurker long time.
Can you PLEASE get to the point? If you CAN and WILL offer info, please do!
If not, please stop wasting space on these servers.
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 09:49 PM
i didn't work on the commercial, i just worked with a person who did. and we had a little discussion about it. if a stream were to be available, that would have to be a leak at a post production house, and i doubt anyone would risk a $$$$$ of it on pissing of the client and/or getting fired. if i had worked on the commercial, i probably wouldn't be saying anything because of legal reasons. maybe a newbie, but lurker long time.
Ok, sounds reasonable.
So you can add nothing further to BEP, CPU on screen back and wireless keyboard & mouse?
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:49 PM
i didn't work on the commercial, i just worked with a person who did. and we had a little discussion about it. if a stream were to be available, that would have to be a leak at a post production house, and i doubt anyone would risk a $$$$$ of it on pissing of the client and/or getting fired. if i had worked on the commercial, i probably wouldn't be saying anything because of legal reasons. maybe a newbie, but lurker long time.
ok .. fair enough
so thne just to stop all of these questoins or doubts hows about u just sum up everytihng u know about the new imac in one post, this shyould end some confusion ???
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:49 PM
not sure what bep song it's set too. the person i had the passing discussion with was neither a BEP fan per se, and actually not a mac user either. but might become one now. they were quite impressed with its appearance.
&RU
Aug 30, 2004, 09:52 PM
That has to be the goofiest thing to ever march out of Cupertino. If this isn't a smoke screen then I will personally mail Jonathan Ives a bucket of chum.
This would be more expensive to manufacture and maintain, and would be prone to damage when local populations of Flamingos attempt to mate with it.
Dumb.
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:52 PM
not sure what bep song it's set too. the person i had the passing discussion with was neither a BEP fan per se, and actually not a mac user either. but might become one now. they were quite impressed with its appearance.
hahahaha ur doing a good job of getting on some ppls nerves buy cutting the edges and not getting to any details lol, i find it funny and amusing, but if wat u have told us is tru, thanks, and if not, i hope u had fun !!
ethernet76
Aug 30, 2004, 09:53 PM
Apple is just covering their the base so that a PC company can't come out with a dual arm version.
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:54 PM
lol i like all these posts from ppl who jut read the first post and read about ppl arguing about the arists rendition or the 2 arms and are responding to that, ithink were pretty much past that lol
i think EVERY possible thing has been covered in those cases lol
nate13
Aug 30, 2004, 09:56 PM
Even though im not in the market... i am anticipating seeing something good with the imac line. it needs it. and no offense, but im starting to think that the iMac department inside apple is either fast asleep. Unless of course , they pull of something that can only be described as apple. But PLEASE apple, don't make a pyramid. a scroll wheel is circular, and a apple is curved. no straight lines. hopefully we wont be using an ancient form of a calendar (egyptians) for a new comp. we already have ical! But~ if it has some kick butt processor or a teleporter to a different dimension, im in!
ibjoshua
Aug 30, 2004, 09:56 PM
if wat u have told us is tru, thanks, and if not, i hope u had fun !!
exactly what I was thinking.
i_b_joshua
sirjimithy
Aug 30, 2004, 09:56 PM
why is anyone listening to kontact. that's the most transparent "giving you all everything but the truth so i'll feel better because everyone thinks i'm interesting" crap i've ever seen.
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 09:56 PM
this is the info i have. applejustworks-if you can't have every piece of info you crave and a quicktime of the commercial sent to you, would you rather not have any info? i would think the beans i've spilled would be considered some info, as opposed to just speculation.
fluidinclusion
Aug 30, 2004, 09:57 PM
Since Steve mentioned that Apple will ANNOUNCE AND SHIP the iMac G5 in September, how can it be announced tomorrow? They surely knew about the conference. Will we have to wait a few weeks? Might tomorrow just be a rehash of iTunes Europe, etc.?????????
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 09:58 PM
Even though im not in the market... i am anticipating seeing something good with the imac line. it needs it. and no offense, but im starting to think that the iMac department inside apple is either fast asleep. Unless of course , they pull of something that can only be described as apple. But PLEASE apple, don't make a pyramid. a scroll wheel is circular, and a apple is curved. no straight lines. hopefully we wont be using an ancient form of a calendar (egyptians) for a new comp. we already have ical! But~ if it has some kick butt processor or a teleporter to a different dimension, im in!
i think is been pretty much agreed upon that the pyramid base will not show up and that it was just used as an example of some type of base that the dual arm could go onto.
pay no attention to the artist rendition, though not a bad job, id say almost everyone would agree thats not wat we're going to see (either bc of the metalic look which is really only in the pro models or jsut hte fact that there wont b a pyramid base)
AppleJustWorks
Aug 30, 2004, 10:00 PM
this is the info i have. applejustworks-if you can't have every piece of info you crave and a quicktime of the commercial sent to you, would you rather not have any info? i would think the beans i've spilled would be considered some info, as opposed to just speculation.
Not to start to a fight or anything, but what info HAVE you offered to us besides that you know about it, you saw a commercial about it, and the guy who made the commercial likes it????
wow....... Don't tell us too much! :eek: :D
JOD8FY
Aug 30, 2004, 10:00 PM
I just have to mention - you don't think that the Cram and Jam special was meant to sell out supply of PB's so that they can get a G5 too, do you? Seems highly unlikely to me, but the PB's have always had a special place in Paris... :)
Oui, oui PB :p,
JOD8FY
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:02 PM
Since Steve mentioned that Apple will ANNOUNCE AND SHIP the iMac G5 in September, how can it be announced tomorrow? They surely knew about the conference. Will we have to wait a few weeks? Might tomorrow just be a rehash of iTunes Europe, etc.?????????
though its extremely possible that it wont b annoicned tomorrow and as one person claimed to have been toldit wanst going to b annoucned, if apple doesnt annoucne it, since it has been pretty much assumed it would it will b really bad, especially ince they were pretty much suppsoed to annoucne it at WWDC, and alot of investors are leaning on tomorrow, i dont know wat will happen to Apple stock if it inst,there will b a lot of disapointed ppl, not just mac inthusiast. and it owuld mean a lot for the education market now and the christmas market if it isnt announced tomorrow also, at least if they cant ship it for another month or so they pretty much have to at least announce and show it tomorrow
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 10:02 PM
sirjimithy-what i've said is true. sorry i don't have all the details, but even if i did, i bet you'd be just as skeptical.
Stella
Aug 30, 2004, 10:02 PM
Since Steve mentioned that Apple will ANNOUNCE AND SHIP the iMac G5 in September, how can it be announced tomorrow? They surely knew about the conference. Will we have to wait a few weeks? Might tomorrow just be a rehash of iTunes Europe, etc.?????????
Why can't it be announced tomorrow? Many times Apple have announced products when they haven't actually shipped for several weeks.. PB 17", Airport Express etc. Don't forget September is only one day away..
This expo would be an ideal time to announce a new iMac.
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 10:06 PM
this is the info i have. applejustworks-if you can't have every piece of info you crave and a quicktime of the commercial sent to you, would you rather not have any info? i would think the beans i've spilled would be considered some info, as opposed to just speculation.
I know where your coming from kontact but as a long time lurker you would be aware of at least one newbie appearing just before each major apple event claiming inside knowledge...some have got it right, others have obviously been frauds.
As to speculation, analysing all the rumors and patent data points already to a machine like you have described. Nothing I think you have said apart from the BEPs is new...and that's what we all hunger for now because any source (you included) is at best rumor. If you had any more of the jigsaw puzzle like colour, base foot design, internal specs, speaker placement ect then we would appreciate it and add it to the rumor list.
On the other hand I am glad youre not speculating yourself.
sirjimithy
Aug 30, 2004, 10:06 PM
sirjimithy-what i've said is true. sorry i don't have all the details, but even if i did, i bet you'd be just as skeptical.
most of us, even the skeptical ones, all have the feeling of a little kid about to watch a parade when these conferences come about. especially when we hear what floats we should be expecting to see. But if you really stop to think about it, there's just too many holes in this float for me.
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 10:06 PM
lol i like all these posts from ppl who jut read the first post and read about ppl arguing about the arists rendition or the 2 arms and are responding to that, ithink were pretty much past that lol
i think EVERY possible thing has been covered in those cases lol
Yeah exactly, by now all that's left are these crazy people who give us partial info about things that have already been speculated.
and dude, I did it again...lol I gave AppleJustWorks a post that was supposed to go to you on the last page... the part about "you still don't think I was being sarcastic do you?" I'm losing my brains! Just to make it clear I wasn't being sarcastic, I'm not very good at getting jokes that's all :)
djbeamer09
Aug 30, 2004, 10:07 PM
applejustworks is on smart person
Ps:i think his g5 gives him all the answers
AppleJustWorks
Aug 30, 2004, 10:07 PM
applejustworks is on smart person
Ps:i think his g5 gives him all the answers
oooook......And this came from? :D
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 10:08 PM
the info i put out was, the guts of the machine are indeed behind the screen, the keyboard and mouse are wireless, vertical slot on side of monitor,the black eyes peas are shown with it and they're talking about Garage Band, and the person i met who is not a mac user was very impressed with it. that's all true. as in facts. facts are information. what i particularly found encouraging is how it impressed a wintel user, so it can't be all that bad. i felt motivated to post all this after i saw some of the egyption renderings/speculation.
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 10:12 PM
the info i put out was, the guts of the machine are indeed behind the screen, the keyboard and mouse are wireless, vertical slot on side of monitor,the black eyes peas are shown with it and they're talking about Garage Band, and the person i met who is not a mac user was very impressed with it. that's all true. as in facts. facts are information. what i particularly found encouraging is how it impressed a wintel user, so it can't be all that bad. i felt motivated to post all this after i saw some of the egyption renderings/speculation.
Thanks. 4.75 hours to go :)
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:13 PM
and dude, I did it again...lol I gave AppleJustWorks a post that was supposed to go to you on the last page... the part about "you still don't think I was being sarcastic do you?" I'm losing my brains! Just to make it clear I wasn't being sarcastic, I'm not very good at getting jokes that's all :)
hahaha its all good dude
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 10:13 PM
the info i put out was, the guts of the machine are indeed behind the screen, the keyboard and mouse are wireless, vertical slot on side of monitor,the black eyes peas are shown with it and they're talking about Garage Band, and the person i met who is not a mac user was very impressed with it. that's all true. as in facts. facts are information. what i particularly found encouraging is how it impressed a wintel user, so it can't be all that bad. i felt motivated to post all this after i saw some of the egyption renderings/speculation.
There's nothing wrong with being a newbie, everybody is at some point in time so I hope I didn't give you the wrong impression with anything I might have said before about newbies. I think we are all understanding what you're saying, but those aren't facts. Facts can be varified, and right now you're the only source. We all just like to have as much proof as possible, and if not like Aswitcher was talking about.. there is a difference between how we look at it. Either as fact or rumor. Not enough varification will make it look like a rumor, which is okay that's what this forum is all about. You'll have your chance to prove this all to be true, tomorrow.
No hard feelings :)
cthorp
Aug 30, 2004, 10:14 PM
It would seem to me that if the item being patened is the arm they could render the base any way they like. That way they would not tip off what the whole pakage looks like. Kinda the way they disquise cars in Detroit. But who knows, I was wrong about the G5.
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 10:14 PM
sirjimithy- it's all right if you don't believe me. it's good i didn't have all the info, so there will still be some surprise when it's announced. just by because i don't have all the answers doesn't mean it's not true. time will tell.
sirjimithy
Aug 30, 2004, 10:14 PM
does anyone else remember the keynote when steve announced the FP iMac? he said that globbing the guts on to the back of the screen is a "less than great" idea because...
the flat screen is no longer flat
the optical drive would be vertical, so it has to be slowed down
and the ports have to be on the side, which "creates the worst kind of cable mess right in front of your eyes"
I may be wrong, but it just doesn't make enough sense. those are all valid design flaws.
JOD8FY
Aug 30, 2004, 10:15 PM
the info i put out was, the guts of the machine are indeed behind the screen, the keyboard and mouse are wireless, vertical slot on side of monitor,the black eyes peas are shown with it and they're talking about Garage Band, and the person i met who is not a mac user was very impressed with it. that's all true. as in facts. facts are information. what i particularly found encouraging is how it impressed a wintel user, so it can't be all that bad. i felt motivated to post all this after i saw some of the egyption renderings/speculation.
Thanks kontact, I hope it turns out as good as it sounds. It's always nice to hear about a Wintel user that's impressed with Macs.
JOD8FY
JOD8FY
Aug 30, 2004, 10:18 PM
does anyone else remember the keynote when steve announced the FP iMac? he said that globbing the guts on to the back of the screen is a "less than great" idea because...
the flat screen is no longer flat
the optical drive would be vertical, so it has to be slowed down
and the ports have to be on the side, which "creates the worst kind of cable mess right in front of your eyes"
I may be wrong, but it just doesn't make enough sense. those are all valid design flaws.
#1 is true, for #2 they must have figured out a way to keep the drive the same speed as normal and for #3, why cant you put the ports on the back?
JOD8FY
macumus
Aug 30, 2004, 10:19 PM
i think they could sell an updated G4 imac (two part arm) along with a new G5 iMac with new enclosure concept. two processors, two enclosures, two price points. drive down costs on G4, slowly add features by standardizing things like wi-fi, bluetooth, firewire800, etc. more rapid development for G5 with everything stanadard, support 30" displays.
the pics:
i think there is too much verticle and horizontal shift from the top of the original arm to the circle on the expo pic. it looks near verticle yet is pushed forward/extended
zelmo
Aug 30, 2004, 10:19 PM
the info i put out was, the guts of the machine are indeed behind the screen, the keyboard and mouse are wireless, vertical slot on side of monitor,the black eyes peas are shown with it and they're talking about Garage Band, and the person i met who is not a mac user was very impressed with it. that's all true. as in facts. facts are information. what i particularly found encouraging is how it impressed a wintel user, so it can't be all that bad. i felt motivated to post all this after i saw some of the egyption renderings/speculation.
Well, thanks at least for putting it all together in one post for us. True or crap, we'll all know shortly, eh?
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:20 PM
does anyone else remember the keynote when steve announced the FP iMac? he said that globbing the guts on to the back of the screen is a "less than great" idea because...
the flat screen is no longer flat
the optical drive would be vertical, so it has to be slowed down
and the ports have to be on the side, which "creates the worst kind of cable mess right in front of your eyes"
I may be wrong, but it just doesn't make enough sense. those are all valid design flaws.
that is tru, somethintg down those lines were said, but that doesnt mean they couldnt have figured out a way to make it work and work well, and avoid those problems
el_aarono
Aug 30, 2004, 10:21 PM
... and for #3, why cant you put the ports on the back?
JOD8FY
I think you're right about point #3. The new Aluminum displays have ports on the posterior inferior side of the monitor.
But cord mess would be unsightly.... :eek: :)
sirjimithy
Aug 30, 2004, 10:21 PM
Again, I'm not saying it's not true. But optical drives DO have to be slowed down when put on their sides. And with some creative engineering, the ports could be put on the back. Perhaps they would comprimise the drive speed since it is a consumer machine and not a pro. But unless they can squeeze the guts of the machine to about the thickness of a powerbook, you destroy the point of having a flat screen.
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 10:23 PM
the pics:
i think there is too much verticle and horizontal shift from the top of the original arm to the circle on the expo pic. it looks near verticle yet is pushed forward/extended
hey that's really kool, for you to show both pics up close like that. I originally found that pic on the expo and how vertical the one arm looks and how far out extended is how made me think about it possibly being the two arm design originally. Glad you could supply a closer look :)
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:23 PM
i think they could sell an updated G4 imac (two part arm) along with a new G5 iMac with new enclosure concept. two processors, two enclosures, two price points. drive down costs on G4, slowly add features by standardizing things like wi-fi, bluetooth, firewire800, etc. more rapid development for G5 with everything stanadard, support 30" displays.
the pics:
i think there is too much verticle and horizontal shift from the top of the original arm to the circle on the expo pic. it looks near verticle yet is pushed forward/extended
well from those pics, the bottom does seem a little diffrerent with the two white lines that i can see and theyre definately not on my FP imac, but the top looks the same, there is obviously a little joint comming out of the top of the arm, which u can see in both pictures, and in the suppsoed G5 one, it realyl doenst look like a second arm, just a connecting joint
nate13
Aug 30, 2004, 10:23 PM
I think you're right about point #3. The new Aluminum displays have ports on the posterior inferior side of the monitor.
But cord mess would be unsightly.... :eek: :)
Bluetooth keyboard/ Mouse?
A sign of wireless firewire ?
this expo will either really be cool or a major let down. :confused: :o
sirjimithy
Aug 30, 2004, 10:24 PM
I think you're right about point #3. The new Aluminum displays have ports on the posterior inferior side of the monitor.
But cord mess would be unsightly.... :eek: :)
The aluminum displays don't have the ports mounted on a logic board, either :)
No, it would have to take cords coming off the logic board connecting to rear ports to pull that off, but unless they are above or (more logically) below the logic board, it would add even more thickness to the unit.
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 10:24 PM
no i can't prove it, so yes, by that definition of fact, you should consider it rumor. aswitcher-you're welcome.
djbeamer09
Aug 30, 2004, 10:25 PM
the new Imac are a sure hit since they a going to be g5
G5s ROCK
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 10:25 PM
i think they could sell an updated G4 imac (two part arm) along with a new G5 iMac with new enclosure concept. two processors, two enclosures, two price points. drive down costs on G4, slowly add features by standardizing things like wi-fi, bluetooth, firewire800, etc. more rapid development for G5 with everything stanadard, support 30" displays.
Ooo. The G4 iMac would still be coming out if they were going to keep the design. Look I hope I am wrong, but I think they wouldnt have halted sales for 2 months on the G4 iMac (big loses) when they could have still be sellign them...
supports 30" displays - ha ;)
el_aarono
Aug 30, 2004, 10:28 PM
Bluetooth keyboard/ Mouse?
A sign of wireless firewire ?
this expo will either really be cool or a major let down. :confused: :o
I thought wireless firewire wouldn't be a real possibility for quite some time. And when it is, I'm sure we'll see it in Powermacs first, just like the way Powermacs got firewire 800 long before the iMac did.
djbeamer09
Aug 30, 2004, 10:28 PM
no but for real i beleave that the people at apple can solve any problem they might have before it is introduced
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:29 PM
no i can't prove it, so yes, by that definition of fact, you should consider it rumor. aswitcher-you're welcome.
i must say most "fake rumor posting ppl" arent as persitant as u, at least in what ive experienced with them in previous product launches, and the more u post the more credible u seem, at least in my opinion
nate13
Aug 30, 2004, 10:30 PM
kontact has provided us regulars with some healthy speculation. and honestly, i haven't seen such fast moving post. So, i thank kontact, cause even if he is bs'ing, which could be totally untrue, he has made this thread interesting, even though any next gen comp would be. And btw, when does the conference start? what time central time? that would greatly help to see if im going to call in sick for work tomorrow to be up for the unveiling!
ArticulatedArm
Aug 30, 2004, 10:30 PM
I believe you Kontact. Thanks for the info.
rinseout
Aug 30, 2004, 10:31 PM
No idea if this is a hoax or not, but on the iPodfrance site was this picture... if you zoom in on the white box just to the left of the blue crate you can see something like a "display only" iMac on something like an L-shaped base.
[Edit: apparently this is an old photo of the original LCD box.]
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 10:32 PM
i must say most "fake rumor posting ppl" arent as persitant as u, at least in what ive experienced with them in previous product launches, and the more u post the more credible u seem, at least in my opinion
True. Most hit and run
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 10:32 PM
ok, i will some speculation despite myself: the impression i had when they described it to me was some thing like what the new monitors look like, as in no fancy arm. in hind sight i wish i had asked them to be more specific about the way it looked, i never thought about posting any of this originally anyway. so consider it speculation, but that was impression of how they described it. you have to understand, our conversation was very water cooler and not detailed.
AppleJustWorks
Aug 30, 2004, 10:32 PM
no but for real i beleave that the people at apple can solve any problem they might have before it is introduced
unless of course it operates in Space, because a vertical drive goes against gravity
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:32 PM
kontact has provided us regulars with some healthy speculation. and honestly, i haven't seen such fast moving post. So, i thank kontact, cause even if he is bs'ing, which could be totally untrue, he has made this thread interesting, even though any next gen comp would be. And btw, when does the conference start? what time central time? that would greatly help to see if im going to call in sick for work tomorrow to be up for the unveiling!
i totally agree.. and also im in eastern time and i know for me it starts at 4 in the morning and its 1130 here so whatever time it is for u , for everyone it starts in 4 and a half hours, so just add 4.5 to w.e time it is where u r
el_aarono
Aug 30, 2004, 10:33 PM
No idea if this is a hoax or not, but on the iPodfrance site was this picture... if you zoom in on the white box just to the left of the blue crate you can see something like a "display only" iMac on something like an L-shaped base.
Not a hoax - just old news. That photo has been discussed extensively in other threads and the conclusion is that it's an old original Apple LCD box.
It is definitely NOT the new iMac.
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 10:35 PM
No idea if this is a hoax or not, but on the iPodfrance site was this picture... if you zoom in on the white box just to the left of the blue crate you can see something like a "display only" iMac on something like an L-shaped base.
I think you'll find that this was spotted a few days back and has been discussed to pieces ... with the outcome being its nothing to get excited about...
nate13
Aug 30, 2004, 10:36 PM
i will set my alarm for... 3 in the morn!! cool! better hit the hay! jk about the sleeping part :D
DavidCar
Aug 30, 2004, 10:36 PM
Is everyone just going to stay up and chat for the next 4.25 hours?
When checking "Kontact" s profile, I see his messages have 46,839 reads. That must be for the whole thread since it started, I assume.
What about putting connectors in the base to avoid the cable mess. The power connector would have to be in the base anyway.
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 10:37 PM
ok, i will some speculation despite myself: the impression i had when they described it to me was some thing like what the new monitors look like, as in no fancy arm. in hind sight i wish i had asked them to be more specific about the way it looked, i never thought about posting any of this originally anyway. so consider it speculation, but that was impression of how they described it. you have to understand, our conversation was very water cooler and not detailed.
Hey it's no big deal man, we can't always supply a link or a stream. A lot of us on here were just testing you to see if you were real or not. No matter if any of what you say is true or not, or if it is true but for some odd reason they don't show that commercial.. I won't knock on you tomorrow. Hell for all we know, they might delay all this iMac stuff till amost another month from now... I'd hate to see me or anyone else run you away, even if what they might have told you isn't true. This is still one of the best mac forums out there and I think you'd really enjoy hangin around longer than the Expo.
macumus
Aug 30, 2004, 10:40 PM
two more pics this has the arm almost vertical, one with the screen tilted forward and one with it tilted back
im_noahselby
Aug 30, 2004, 10:41 PM
ok, i will some speculation despite myself: the impression i had when they described it to me was some thing like what the new monitors look like, as in no fancy arm. in hind sight i wish i had asked them to be more specific about the way it looked, i never thought about posting any of this originally anyway. so consider it speculation, but that was impression of how they described it. you have to understand, our conversation was very water cooler and not detailed.
Stop while your ahead... lol
nagromme
Aug 30, 2004, 10:41 PM
if apple doesnt annoucne it, since it has been pretty much assumed it would it will b really bad, especially ince they were pretty much suppsoed to annoucne it at WWDC, and alot of investors are leaning on tomorrow, i dont know wat will happen to Apple stock if it inst,there will b a lot of disapointed ppl, not just mac inthusiast.
Apple's under no obligation to do what Rumor posters "assume." Analysts too can wait a week, if Apple decided to stick to their word (ANNOUNCE in September) and thus allow Steve to do the unveiling in a week or three.
I do think it's possible that the iMac is NOT coming tomorrow. Only a possibility--it probably IS coming in my opinion. But Apple's not "supposed" to do it tomorrow--they've said September and WE'VE said August 31.
But unless they can squeeze the guts of the machine to about the thickness of a powerbook, you destroy the point of having a flat screen.
Suppose the iMac is half a foot thick. Compare that to how deep an eMac is! Now throw in the sharpness that an LCD has. I'd say there's still a LOT of point to having a flat screen.
Rower_CPU
Aug 30, 2004, 10:42 PM
Chill with the the spam, folks.
If you want to chat, get in the IRC channel - don't pollute the forums. Thanks. :)
Boodah
Aug 30, 2004, 10:43 PM
Why not called it Ramses V ?
CholEoptera36
Aug 30, 2004, 10:44 PM
Apple's under no obligation to do what Rumor posters "assume." Analysts too can wait a week, if Apple decided to stick to their word (ANNOUNCE in September) and thus allow Steve to do the unveiling in a week or three.
yeah that's true, and people have mentioned that a few times already. But I wonder though, just in case they don't reveal it tomorrow... Where would Steve unveal the new iMac? Would it just be a television broadcast? Since it wont' be at a convention that is...
nagromme
Aug 30, 2004, 10:45 PM
No idea if this is a hoax or not, but on the iPodfrance site was this picture... if you zoom in on the white box just to the left of the blue crate you can see something like a "display only" iMac on something like an L-shaped base.
I don't think it's a fake--that site has lots of pre-expo photos. But I think that's the original 15" Apple Studio Display (the one that came in grey/purple and then in blue). Wonder what THAT's doing there :D
EDIT--pic: http://www.macworldextra.co.uk/images/productshots/autol/33974.jpg
Compare to:
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16761
PS, Re other Apple announcement venues--Apple has used non-tradeshow "Apple Events" at their campus, for other big releases. It's always an option. (Also--no Webcast or satellite this time. That could be because the time isn't good for US viewers anyway, or it could indicate a show without big news. If so, that's OK... big news will come along soon!)
PPS, I think Kontact sounds believable, but nothing will convince me until four more hours pass :)
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:46 PM
Apple's under no obligation to do what Rumor posters "assume." Analysts too can wait a week, if Apple decided to stick to their word (ANNOUNCE in September) and thus allow Steve to do the unveiling in a week or three.
I do think it's possible that the iMac is NOT coming tomorrow. Only a possibility--it probably IS coming in my opinion. But Apple's not "supposed" to do it tomorrow--they've said September and WE'VE said August 31.
Suppose the iMac is half a foot thick. Compare that to how deep an eMac is! Now throw in the sharpness that an LCD has. I'd say there's still a LOT of point to having a flat screen.
i never said n e thing about rumor posters buddy, apple and all other companies for that matyter havehuge responsibility to live up to waht consumers and investors and expecting for the good of their compnay, i dindt say apple will announce it tomorrow becuase of investors, all i was trying to say is that it would b a poor business move not to, both for consumers, enthusiats, and investors
xsnightclub
Aug 30, 2004, 10:48 PM
I don't think it's a fake--that site has lots of pre-expo photos. But I think that's the original 15" Apple Studio Display (the one that came in grey/purple and then in blue). Wonder what THAT's doing there :D
Probably the best way to make sure there aren't any 'spyphotos' from the expo hall is to ship the new products in old boxes.
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 10:49 PM
i actually think that ipodfrance photo might be something.
mvc
Aug 30, 2004, 10:49 PM
Probably the best way to make sure there aren't any 'spyphotos' from the expo hall is to ship the new products in old boxes. Yep, that wins the "most paranoid" theory award :rolleyes:
macumus
Aug 30, 2004, 10:50 PM
why not keep the design around and throw a dual-G4 chip in - much like the one freescale has announced? or is rumored to have announced. 60% of the current costs, higher volume, stock built up to meet initial demand, HP on board after a couple months of building up their supply just in time for the holiday season.
then a whole new G5, not sold by HP until well into next year
mvc
Aug 30, 2004, 10:51 PM
i actually think that ipodfrance photo might be something. Now you are definitely slipping, that was discussed out in a previous thread yesterday - it's an old box from an old Apple LCD, probably full of cables & keyboards & junk
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 10:51 PM
i actually think that ipodfrance photo might be something.
the elevvator one or the in the distance imac that at closeup may seem to have 2 arms ?
xsnightclub
Aug 30, 2004, 10:52 PM
i actually think that ipodfrance photo might be something.
If you look at some of the photos on the above-mentioned site, there are like six eMac boxes sitting in front of display stalls. They appear to be the same old eMac boxes they use now, I haven't heard any rumors of an eMac update. Which brings me back to the assertion that they are shipping new products in old boxes.
Edit: As paranoid as that may be, then how paranoid is Apple with their unparalled secrecy, But I do think it is a good thing, though.
mvc
Aug 30, 2004, 10:52 PM
why not keep the design around and throw a dual-G4 chip in - much like the one freescale has announced? or is rumored to have announced. 60% of the current costs, higher volume, stock built up to meet initial demand, HP on board after a couple months of building up their supply just in time for the holiday season.
then a whole new G5, not sold by HP until well into next year
If they were going to keep the old design, why stop making them two months ago? :cool:
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 10:54 PM
mvc-that's just my opinion, not something i'm claiming to know. my impression from the talk i had with them about it was that is was kind of like that. monitor on a stand. like i said, i wish i had asked them more specifics about that.
nagromme
Aug 30, 2004, 10:56 PM
If you look at some of the photos on the above-mentioned site, there are like six eMac boxes sitting in front of display stalls. They appear to be the same old eMac boxes they use now, I haven't heard any rumors of an eMac update. Which brings me back to the assertion that they are shipping new products in old boxes.
Apple might have ALL their products on hand to sell, not just the new ones. So eMacs would be expected, along with PowerMacs, iPods, etc.
As for an old LCD box... maybe just last-minute junk like spare extension cords :)
rt_brained
Aug 30, 2004, 10:57 PM
The pyramid shaped base in the drawing doesn't suggest anything, as it has nothing directly to do with any of the language contained in the the filing.
Additionally, unless the patent filing describes a dual swing arm specifically, as a mechanism of the patent request, then we should assume it also is not telling of the machine's design.
Read and study the patent filing and disregard the drawing as a literal depiction.
xsnightclub
Aug 30, 2004, 10:58 PM
Apple might have ALL their products on hand to sell, not just the new ones. So eMacs would be expected, along with PowerMacs, iPods, etc.
As for an old LCD box... maybe just last-minute junk like spare extension cords :)
Is the Paris Expo an Apple Retail Outlet, or an expostion of the new products? There are also many other manufacturers there showcasing new products. Why would Apple want to highlight what is arguably its oldest and most basic model?
bar italia
Aug 30, 2004, 10:58 PM
i :about rumor posters buddy, apple and all other companies for that matyter havehuge responsibility to live up to waht consumers and investors and expecting for the good of their compnay, i dindt say apple will announce it tomorrow becuase of investors, all i was trying to say is that it would b a poor business move not to, both for consumers, enthusiats, and investors
Reading your posts gives me a headache.
And what's with "never said n e thing"? Are you too busy to spell out words, or r u Prince?
mvc
Aug 30, 2004, 10:58 PM
mvc-that's just my opinion, not something i'm claiming to know. my impression from the talk i had with them about it was that is was kind of like that. monitor on a stand. like i said, i wish i had asked them more specifics about that. hey, no disrespect, what you say could be true, its certainly the logical long term solution all technical issues aside.
The whole idea of a separate lump holding the guts of the computer is just a technological hangover, the user perception of a computer is the interface - screen, keyboard and mouse.
Ever see someone hit their screen when something goes wrong - its not the screens fault!
But that's the perception - its all about the interface.
I'm just not sure if the tech is quite ready for the computer 'box' to actually disappear yet.
Mencius
Aug 30, 2004, 11:00 PM
I'm SURE this has been mentioned in the thread, though I can't read all 300+ posts, but anyway it seems to need reiteration. The Apple site says, as we all know, the imac G5 will be announced and available in September. So though I'm sure we're all hoping to see it soon I wonder why they would announce it even in late August with that on the site?
nate13
Aug 30, 2004, 11:00 PM
I think it is possible that apple might announce the new iMacs on another day of the convention. and it does follow with the october announcement. of course, im hoping to wake up to my imac telling me there are new imacs! Fingers, toes, and arms crossed (of course, how am i typing?) ;)
PS: let me tell you, typing like this is hard! :p
SiliconAddict
Aug 30, 2004, 11:01 PM
I’m sorry but Mac users are really funny to watch going nuts over a patent. Do you think Apple would be stupid enough to patent a single component of a computer with the rest of the finished product a patent that was submitted over a just under a year ago?!? This, if nothing else, from a company insane about secrecy. Yah Apple has had a finished G5 iMac done for over a year. :rolleyes:
Common sense people. Common sense.
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 11:02 PM
Reading your posts gives me a headache.
And what's with "never said n e thing"? Are you too busy to spell out words, or r u Prince?
well i dont mean to piss ANY ONE off with my posts, seriously, i dont know wat seems to give u a headache but ok. im jsut giving my opinions on this stuff. and also, im chatting in a online forum im not writing a thesis, since when was there a problem using slang or short term for words ?
i hate wen ppl get so serious on these threads , lighten up
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 11:04 PM
mvc-exactly, that's what i think the idea is, to just see the interface only. i'm hopefull.
SiliconAddict
Aug 30, 2004, 11:06 PM
well i dont mean to piss ANY ONE off with my posts, seriously, i dont know wat seems to give u a headache but ok. im jsut giving my opinions on this stuff. and also, im chatting in a online forum im not writing a thesis, since when was there a problem using slang or short term for words ?
i hate wen ppl get so serious on these threads , lighten up
n pblm @ al 2 bd U ar't trin'n 2 spk eglsh tho.
Clipped English is great for real-time chat but on a forum where you have the time to type out a sentence it's a sign of just being sloppy and lazy. No one expects perfect grammar or perfect spelling but for God sake try and maintain something above grade school speak.
On the plus side you aren't speaking 1337 in which case the club by four makes an appearance. :p Look at me I'm cool because I can speel words in numbers!! I remember doing that in gradeschool as well. :p
macumus
Aug 30, 2004, 11:06 PM
If they were going to keep the old design, why stop making them two months ago? :cool:
so they could reorganize their manufacturing
gets things rolling with HP/iPod & Hype.
Get attention.
Give Jobs a break to have the cancer surgery, things in a lull while he recovers. Apple employees may feel like they're fighting this one for the Jobs & his vision more now than ever.
Make this thing even bigger than they had already started too. Plan more, do more, be ready. A marine friend taught me the 7P's: Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
Get the G4 & G5 Stocked UP! This is key! Get the back to school hold outs...the "unique users visiting Apple.com" more than any other hardware mfg. and staying longer. Get the hype buyers that heard about it, than see, then buy, then love it, and tell their parents about it, then video ichat with parents for free from anywhere (at least one or twice a week right).
nagromme
Aug 30, 2004, 11:07 PM
Ever see someone hit their screen when something goes wrong - its not the screens fault!
I think you may be on to something. The next Apple innovation: hit your computer where it HURTS! The main processor will be in a little open window just below the display. An icepick on a chain will hang nearby. When frustration strikes, now you can really make your Mac pay attention! :D
(PS, I don't think the old iMac design will be back, great as it is... but it IS possible, despite the two months absence: Apple may have stopped making them because they expected enough G5s from IBM sooner than reality. The iMac G5 was probably done a whole, there just weren't enough G5s to ship earlier. So they'd have stopped shipping iMacs until September no matter what the design.)
Yvan256
Aug 30, 2004, 11:08 PM
Not sure if it could be the new iMac box... anyone recognize it?
http://www.apple-expo.com/fr/resellers/images/graphic.jpg
Trowaman
Aug 30, 2004, 11:11 PM
The only thing important right now is we're 5 hours away from the premiere of the goodies. It's 11 pm central now and I think I should get some sleep so I can fully comprehend what a ghz is when they announce stuff, that and all that first day in some new college classes, stuff . . .
See ya guys in the morning.
*bets on 1.6-1.8 G5 iMacs, iPod accessories, something with the 60 GB drive (unknown what) and MAYBE something else small we never saw coming.
xsnightclub
Aug 30, 2004, 11:12 PM
Not sure if it could be the new iMac box... anyone recognize it?
http://www.apple-expo.com/fr/resellers/images/graphic.jpg
it is the current eMac box.
Apparently being re-introduced at an expo show.
Trowaman
Aug 30, 2004, 11:12 PM
Not sure if it could be the new iMac box... anyone recognize it?
http://www.apple-expo.com/fr/resellers/images/graphic.jpg
That is very easily recognizable as an emac box. It even says it on the side f you look close enough.
el_aarono
Aug 30, 2004, 11:14 PM
That is very easily recognizable as an emac box. It even says it on the side f you look close enough.
Maybe he is referring to the box the man in the brown coat has in his right hand. I can't seem to recognize anything on it though.
It's a pretty busy design for the minimalist Apple style though.
nate13
Aug 30, 2004, 11:14 PM
The only thing important right now is we're 5 hours away from the premiere of the goodies. It's 11 pm central now and I think I should get some sleep so I can fully comprehend what a ghz is when they announce stuff, that and all that first day in some new college classes, stuff . . .
See ya guys in the morning.
*bets on 1.6-1.8 G5 iMacs, iPod accessories, something with the 60 GB drive (unknown what) and MAYBE something else small we never saw coming.
I agree
everyone here come back tomorrow morning 8 am Central to talk over what happened i need sleep, but i dont want to miss out on this stuff! pause! work remote work! :D
xsnightclub
Aug 30, 2004, 11:15 PM
Maybe he is referring to the box the man in the brown coat has in his right hand. I can't seem to recognize anything on it though.
It's a pretty busy design for the minimalist Apple style though.
Looks like a box of Tupperware
xmit
Aug 30, 2004, 11:17 PM
The Apple store web site states that the new imac will be announced and available in September. Would they change it to Aug. 31 without any notice?
aswitcher
Aug 30, 2004, 11:17 PM
Get the G4 & G5 Stocked UP! This is key! Get the back to school hold outs...the "unique users visiting Apple.com" more than any other hardware mfg. and staying longer. Get the hype buyers that heard about it, than see, then buy, then love it, and tell their parents about it, then video ichat with parents for free from anywhere (at least one or twice a week right).
I think we are pretty sure that the iMac delays where chip based not anything else and have been able to get a signficant quantity ready to ship in the last few months. Here's hoping...
nagromme
Aug 30, 2004, 11:17 PM
Maybe he is referring to the box the man in the brown coat has in his right hand. I can't seem to recognize anything on it though.
Looks like an old Epson C80, long since discontinued. You can see the printer, plus what appears to be some example printouts such as CD labels.
It may be late but my eyes are still good :)
el_aarono
Aug 30, 2004, 11:17 PM
Looks like a box of Tupperware
Well, my flat-panel imac base looks like an upside down tupperware bowl. :) Maybe the new form factor will "bounce back". ;)
Rower_CPU
Aug 30, 2004, 11:20 PM
Second warning to some of you who are spamming, and keeping off-topic discussion going.
Read the Rules (http://forums.macrumors.com/announcement.php?s=&forumid=4)
Use the aforementioned IRC channel for chatting to keep the signal:noise ratio down.
Repeat offenders will be given a 1-day time out.
SiliconAddict
Aug 30, 2004, 11:21 PM
I think we are pretty sure that the iMac delays where chip based not anything else and have been able to get a signficant quantity ready to ship in the last few months. Here's hoping...
No doubt. If Apple doesn't have some serious quantity for the iMac there could be some serious problems this fall. Here's hoping IBM has the majority of the bugs worked out even though no more then a month ago news.com and several other major news outlets said that IBM production issues could continue until 1st quarter of '05. :(
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 11:24 PM
i hope my spoiler wasn't disheartening, but i think the new imac will be successful. there are lot of people out there that bought apple or will by apple not because of certain specs, but because it works and is beautiful to look at. i think i'd rather lurk in the future than be a deep throat again. ;) goodnight.
Swissboy
Aug 30, 2004, 11:25 PM
Hey All,
I am new here BUT HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU.
I just came back from my breifing for security and now in my hotel and will be going back when Keynotes begin.
I HAVE SEEN IT. THE NEW IMAC.
It is the SAME dome style BUT with colors like the Ipod Mini's. They are G5's and there is 17 inches and 20 inches. The posters are pretty cool.
BUT WAIT...THERES MORE...
I seen powerbook poster thing with supercomputer on your desk...next? and other side has picture of a laptop.
It is 6:25 am here local time. I hope I could give the information to everyone in the USA waiting up.
Swissboy
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 11:25 PM
i hope my spoiler wasn't disheartening, but i think the new imac will be successful. there are lot of people out there that bought apple or will by apple not because of certain specs, but because it works and is beautiful to look at. i think i'd rather lurk in the future than be a deep throat again. ;) goodnight.
thanks for giving us some reasons to post tongiht, hope you were right ;) goodniht
el_aarono
Aug 30, 2004, 11:27 PM
Hey All,
I am new here BUT HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU.
I just came back from my breifing for security and now in my hotel and will be going back when Keynotes begin.
I HAVE SEEN IT. THE NEW IMAC.
It is the SAME dome style BUT with colors like the Ipod Mini's. They are G5's and there is 17 inches and 20 inches. The posters are pretty cool.
BUT WAIT...THERES MORE...
I seen powerbook poster thing with supercomputer on your desk...next? and other side has picture of a laptop.
It is 6:25 am here local time. I hope I could give the information to everyone in the USA waiting up.
Swissboy
Any indication of a G5 chip in them (assuming this is legit)?
mvc
Aug 30, 2004, 11:28 PM
i hope my spoiler wasn't disheartening, but i think the new imac will be successful. there are lot of people out there that bought apple or will by apple not because of certain specs, but because it works and is beautiful to look at. i think i'd rather lurk in the future than be a deep throat again. ;) goodnight. Better Deep Throat than all these Rear End jokes :rolleyes:
But it's alway's good to have wild speculation and unfounded hearsay to chew on. Otherwise we start getting desperate and start examining every little image under a microscope for some leak.
Anyway, thanks for your input, its definitely more productive than lurking. :)
Swissboy
Aug 30, 2004, 11:29 PM
Any indication of a G5 chip in them (assuming this is legit)?
they are 100% G5, says so on the box and the posters.
nagromme
Aug 30, 2004, 11:29 PM
Any indication of a G5 chip in them (assuming this is legit)?
He said G5s. So has Apple! But I call "troll." Showing the iMac at a security briefing? And doing the briefing in the early AM instead of the day before... but then letting you go home for an hour before starting work again?
Kontact's version sounds more believable, and even that leaves me skeptical.
(EDIT: Oops--you probably meant the PowerBook having a G5. I'll let that discussion roll on unstoppably without helping it :D )
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 11:30 PM
Hey All,
I am new here BUT HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU.
I just came back from my breifing for security and now in my hotel and will be going back when Keynotes begin.
I HAVE SEEN IT. THE NEW IMAC.
It is the SAME dome style BUT with colors like the Ipod Mini's. They are G5's and there is 17 inches and 20 inches. The posters are pretty cool.
BUT WAIT...THERES MORE...
I seen powerbook poster thing with supercomputer on your desk...next? and other side has picture of a laptop.
It is 6:25 am here local time. I hope I could give the information to everyone in the USA waiting up.
Swissboy
i see ur security briefing dindt have much of an affect on u (assuming it also had anything to do with keepung quiet about products lol) anywasethanks for the update
Freg3000
Aug 30, 2004, 11:30 PM
Too bad he just registered minutes ago, credibility = low.
But it'd be nice to believe you. :)
Swissboy
Aug 30, 2004, 11:32 PM
He said G5s. But I call "troll." Showing the iMac at a security briefing? And doing the briefing in the early AM instead of the day before... but then letting you go home for an hour before starting work again?
Kontact's version sounds more believable, and even that leaves me skeptical.
yes i am in HOTEL ROOM on my laptop. I am swiss security guard. We were breiefed about the security regarding letting people in and out and we were taken a tour of the area to cover. Was 45 min briefing and then we go back at 8am because thats when media will come.
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 11:33 PM
Too bad he just registered minutes ago, credibility = low.
But it'd be nice to believe you. :)
well wen the night started with kontact giving inforamtin im pretty sure he was in the same boat so you never know
mvc
Aug 30, 2004, 11:34 PM
Too bad he just registered minutes ago, credibility = low.
But it'd be nice to believe you. :) Well actually, I don't want the iMac design to just get a colour paint job and a new chip - I want Apple to be insanely great and rock our world again, some color and a new chip won't lift the consumer sales enough in this world of fast beige PC boxes. Its got to be intrinsically more cool to stand out and make people pay the iMac premium.
xsnightclub
Aug 30, 2004, 11:34 PM
Too bad he just registered minutes ago, credibility = low.
But it'd be nice to believe you. :)
I second that, considering the security briefing was over at 6:45am. I would think you wouldn't be in your hotel room an hour or two before people will start arriving.
Swissboy
Aug 30, 2004, 11:36 PM
i don't even have this g5 imac thingy...but i want one now this is cool...
ch wünsche, daß jeder dieses sieht und verwirklicht, daß es etwas
mehr gibt, das, das ich nicht sagen kann
nagromme
Aug 30, 2004, 11:36 PM
Live coverage from TS:
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/applexpo04keynote.html
Was 45 min briefing and then we go back at 8am because thats when media will come.
Don't mean to offend, but last-minute trolling's a tradition here. Even having the covers off the iMac stuff so early seems suspicious. And Apple would have the group of you and your employer in trouble. I can't buy it.
Also, the "Supercomuter.... Next" thing is a rumor I saw online several days ago. Can't remember where or the details, but that has been mentioned (or hoaxed) before. (And it could be something real--but that doesn't tell us who saw it.)
kontact
Aug 30, 2004, 11:38 PM
not quite in bed yet response to swissboy update-if you remember i'm not positive about the base thing, was just my impression of how they described it. but i still hold my opinion the same. I'D be surprised if that was still the design. ok goodnight for real.
Swissboy
Aug 30, 2004, 11:38 PM
well hope all is well , i will leave for shuttle bus in 5 minutes....
this will be big day....i just hope i could help.
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 11:40 PM
i don't even have this g5 imac thingy...but i want one now this is cool...
ch wünsche, daß jeder dieses sieht und verwirklicht, daß es etwas
mehr gibt, das, das ich nicht sagen kann
lol no one has this G5 imac htingy yet, bc theyre releasing it in 3 hours and 20 minutes (hopefully) and we all want one haha
mvc
Aug 30, 2004, 11:41 PM
not quite in bed yet response to swissboy update-if you remember i'm not positive about the base thing, was just my impression of how they described it. but i still hold my opinion the same. I'D be surprised if that was still the design. ok goodnight for real. So fellow macrumours people, is this the begining of the Troll Wars? Two conflicting last minute newbie posters step up to the battlefield! :confused:
27407
Aug 30, 2004, 11:41 PM
i don't even have this g5 imac thingy...but i want one now this is cool...
ch wünsche, daß jeder dieses sieht und verwirklicht, daß es etwas
mehr gibt, das, das ich nicht sagen kann
Translated (though from German to English):
CH wishes that everyone sees and carries out this that it gives somewhat more, which, which I cannot say
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 11:43 PM
Translated (though from German to English):
CH wishes that everyone sees and carries out this that it gives somewhat more, which, which I cannot say
hmm its translated to englis h and i still dont know wat it means lol :confused: :eek: :D
Mencius
Aug 30, 2004, 11:44 PM
Translated (though from German to English):
CH wishes that everyone sees and carries out this that it gives somewhat more, which, which I cannot say
I think the ch was probably just a typo that was meant to be an "ich" so "I wish" or "I hope" rather than "CH wishes"
rock6079
Aug 30, 2004, 11:46 PM
I think the ch was probably just a typo that was meant to be an "ich" so "I wish" or "I hope" rather than "CH wishes"
uhh makes a lot more sense now, thanks for the clearification :)
abenoboy
Aug 30, 2004, 11:53 PM
THE DOUBLE ARM EXPLAINED
let's say the design DOES allow for portrait-to-landscape tilting. if the iMac had a single hinge, when you tilted into portrait, the screen's bottom would probably be too low for the user to read easily. you need to be able to get that vertical screen up high, hence the double bar.
what do you think?
aswitcher
Aug 31, 2004, 12:04 AM
THE DOUBLE ARM EXPLAINED
let's say the design DOES allow for portrait-to-landscape tilting. if the iMac had a single hinge, when you tilted into portrait, the screen's bottom would probably be too low for the user to read easily. you need to be able to get that vertical screen up high, hence the double bar.
what do you think?
If thet did rotate, which would be cool, wouldn't it need to be in the patent?
Infinitely Loop
Aug 31, 2004, 12:05 AM
August 24, 2004 ? Isn't it a bit late to be filing patents for a product that is about to be rolling out?
I guess I thought this was something that would have to be taken care of well ahead of a release.
I tend to agree... This, me thinks, is a decoy. Also - people seem to be forgetting that the iMac is a home product - it'll be white! It won't be silver - or metallic in any way...
Besides - it's just plain ugly!!!
BlueRevolution
Aug 31, 2004, 12:06 AM
I'd laugh so hard if it was nothing but a new mounting arm for the Al Cinema Displays :D.
Mencius
Aug 31, 2004, 12:09 AM
I'll laugh so hard if swissboy is vindicated. I don't know, there just seems to be something to it... it seemed so genuine.
relimw
Aug 31, 2004, 12:09 AM
I'd laugh so hard if it was nothing but a new mounting arm for the Al Cinema Displays :D.
LOL yer prolly right tho. All this talk about nothing would be just too funny.
kneedragger73
Aug 31, 2004, 12:10 AM
Hey guys, Im new to the forum and found this pic. Sorry if its a repost.
http://www.theapplecollection.com/design/macdesign/images/G5-iMac-ad-med.jpg
~Shard~
Aug 31, 2004, 12:10 AM
Yikes, looks I missed the boat on this thread - 420 posts or so! Well, what can I even say then... I guess just that I'm obviously looking forward to the G5 iMac, and waking up tomorrow morning to the (hopefully good) news. As for this whole double-swivel arm thing, I don't know if I like it, or if it's really practical - seems like it would be a bit awkward to me, and would allow for so many different screen positions that would simply be unusable.
But guess we'll see soon enough - the hours are counting down! :cool:
~Shard~
Aug 31, 2004, 12:12 AM
Hey guys, Im new to the forum and found this pic. Sorry if its a repost.
Yah, this is really old. But, you're new to the forums, so it's all good, I'll let it go - this time... ;) :cool:
iMeowbot
Aug 31, 2004, 12:13 AM
If thet did rotate, which would be cool, wouldn't it need to be in the patent?
Not necessarily. This type of patent ("D" prefix) is really about product appearance, not function. Regular plain-numbered patents are for that.
kontact
Aug 31, 2004, 12:17 AM
thinksecret has a new news post about the future imac g5, seems to be pretty close to what i was telling you all about earlier. ok finally going to bed.
dontmatter
Aug 31, 2004, 12:18 AM
linked patent images and an artist's rendering:
http://home.sport.rr.com/mrmudbug/mr/imacdoubleswingarmsmaller2.jpg
http://home.sport.rr.com/mrmudbug/mr/iMacG5Front2.jpg
I'm sorry, I think the pyramid base is pretty nice looking. Arm and base look kinda scrawny next to screen, but, I see nothing wrong in the pyramid design, except that it's not all that different, not to mention that that would be OK, because the current design is very unique in it's ability, not just it's look, except that the two arms?? isn't that going to cost a lot and not work well?
nagromme
Aug 31, 2004, 12:19 AM
TMO is also planning live keynote reporting:
http://macobserver.com/article/2004/08/30.6.shtml
Hey guys, Im new to the forum and found this pic. Sorry if its a repost.
Haven't seen that one. It's just art--nothing real--but it's nicer than most speculative designs I've seen.
thinksecret has a new news post about the future imac g5, seems to be pretty close to what i was telling you all about earlier. ok finally going to bed.
I don't see anything new at TS (though they do plan keynote coverage) but your description is similar to rumors that have appeared there (and elsewhere) lately.
EDIT: I was the first to identify Yvan256's photo as an eMac box... now my post has been removed. Strange :) But the truth is out there! It's an eMac (and some guy with an Epson printer).
savar
Aug 31, 2004, 12:26 AM
Reading your posts gives me a headache.
And what's with "never said n e thing"? Are you too busy to spell out words, or r u Prince?
Agreed, it drives me nuts when people use 13 year old girl language on a forum like this.
sjk
Aug 31, 2004, 12:28 AM
TMO is also planning live keynote reportingThink Secret (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/applexpo04keynote.html), too.
savar
Aug 31, 2004, 12:29 AM
so they could reorganize their manufacturing
..and totally miss out on the back-to-school rush? The most important time of the year to sell iMacs?
Porchland
Aug 31, 2004, 12:29 AM
So far:
1. apple.com hasn't rolled.
2. apple.com/fr hasn't rolled.
3. apple.com/imac hasn't rolled.
3. apple.com store is still up.
4. the iMac page at the store still says "announced and available in September."
5. Sofware Update isn't showing anything new.
I guess nothing's going down until 4 am East Coast -- about 2 1/2 hours from now.
Why do I wait
Aug 31, 2004, 12:32 AM
Whenever there has been a real photo or drawing of an upcoming Mac product before it's released Apple is quick to threaten the site(s) with a lawsuit unless it is removed from the site immediately. I think this patent drawing must be a fake to throw us all off track. :)
nagromme
Aug 31, 2004, 12:34 AM
Apple doesn't take action on patent images. They're public record. Stolen photos are another matter :)
Why do I wait
Aug 31, 2004, 12:36 AM
That makes sense I guess. I hope it's not real then, I think that thing is ugly :eek:
v8venom
Aug 31, 2004, 12:39 AM
don't know if any of you saw this concept image of an imac G5 by a german artist...
looks sexier than any of the other mock ups i have seen.
http://www.mackompass.de/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=2
SeaFox
Aug 31, 2004, 12:46 AM
Hey guys, Im new to the forum and found this pic. Sorry if its a repost.
http://www.theapplecollection.com/design/macdesign/images/G5-iMac-ad-med.jpg
Hey! Now I can compute while I'm making pasta!
C'mon, I had to make one stupid post in this thread.
I only have about 4 more hours, but I'm going to bed when I get home (at work now). I guess I'll miss the unveiling and the wailing here, when it is revealed the ThinkSecret spec were right and the new G5 iMac is shipping with such lousy graphics cards.
MacinDoc
Aug 31, 2004, 12:50 AM
I'm sorry, I think the pyramid base is pretty nice looking. Arm and base look kinda scrawny next to screen, but, I see nothing wrong in the pyramid design, except that it's not all that different, not to mention that that would be OK, because the current design is very unique in it's ability, not just it's look, except that the two arms?? isn't that going to cost a lot and not work well?
Clearly, a two-part arm would have much more potential for both positioning and possible problems (pardon the alliteration). With what looks like a swivel where the monitor is mounted, as abenoboy mentioned, the two-part arm would be necessary to give the display sufficient height to turn it to the portrait orientation. Unfortunately, the extra joint does introduce much more potential for instability. Not to mention that running cables though this array would be a nightmare (sorry, I think someone else mentioned this, too). I don't know if the technology exists to make this possible at this time.
I find it interesting that the arm in these drawings would probably have a very similar range of motion to the human arm (from the shoulder to the wrist). Has Apple hired someone with a background in robotics and artificial limbs?
mum
Aug 31, 2004, 12:51 AM
To me, the pyramid looks like something you'd draw in order to picture that the arm is attached to something. I'd bet my life savings that this isn't what it'll look like.
But then, that isn't much.
jnasato
Aug 31, 2004, 01:02 AM
AHAHAHA! UH.....
The new iMac *better not* be with a pyramid base, because that's really ugly. I guess we'll see soon.
MacinDoc
Aug 31, 2004, 01:04 AM
don't know if any of you saw this concept image of an imac G5 by a german artist...
looks sexier than any of the other mock ups i have seen.
http://www.mackompass.de/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=2
Yes, FFTT did post that image in a previous thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=84155&page=23&pp=25), and you're right, it's one of the nicer-looking mock-ups. Unfortunately, it loses all of the functionality of the iMac G4's swing arm, and I think that would be a step in the wrong direction.
MacinDoc
Aug 31, 2004, 01:07 AM
AHAHAHA! UH.....
The new iMac *better not* be with a pyramid base, because that's really ugly. I guess we'll see soon.
Anyone remember "pyramid power"? Maybe that'll be Apple's slogan for the new iMac. :rolleyes:
Giantred
Aug 31, 2004, 01:13 AM
I know its late for most of you but im in California (Cupertino none the less) so its a little bit earlier. I'm not sure if you noticed this but with our Swiss Guard that knows so much about our new beloved iMac has one missing link. Why would they have posters hung in the venue for the expo before the keynote. So you walk in about to endure the pain (but excitement) of an Apple high-up who isnt Steve Jobs talk for 50 minutes before he finally release the new product when you sit there th ewhole time looking up at a 200 foot banner of it (like the Ipod mini banner hung the second day at MWSF.) Something is wrong here, very wrong!
I know im a Newbie but i have been reading the forums for a few months now just I have never made an account, so please hear me out!
If your staying up for the release (well hopefully, or I think we will all kill ourselves, due to lack of patience!) Good for you, I am even though im throwing up cause of the stomach flu (would that work for a coolant?)
Corey
P.S. Call me lame i read all 400+ posts on this forum!
DrPepper
Aug 31, 2004, 01:21 AM
i hope they dont change it 2 radical
i like the way it is :)
they better not put the computer on the lcd :mad: , idk what they could do 2 improve perfection :confused: :(
t300
Aug 31, 2004, 01:53 AM
A supercomputer on your wrist...DUH!
Personally, the iMac, although very exciting and thrilling, is not what is really exiciting me right now. I want to see if there will be some BRAND NEW product that might surface. I mean, let's see, what do we know they have lying around...60gb drives, Chameleon, Tablet-like device...Now, unless all of those go into the iMac, I would hope that a brand new device is going to be released. Maybe today, maybe next month, maybe next year...But Apple has something up their sleeve. Always have, always will.
mmork
Aug 31, 2004, 02:22 AM
...was a swiss boy, he probably would know some german. The german remark he posted was obviously hand picked from a dictionary, or a computer translation. Let´s forget about him.
djdrah
Aug 31, 2004, 02:29 AM
I wish Apple would make some cool vesa-compliant arms and mounts for their cinema displays.
They do! CompUSA has them, well they will soon...
shamino
Aug 31, 2004, 11:08 AM
Why do you want an iMac on the wall?
Don't think "living room wall". Think "office cubicle wall".
shamino
Aug 31, 2004, 11:19 AM
Yeah but do you really want your $2000 dollar computer hanging on a nail?
No, but I wouldn't have a problem with a few wall anchors that are large enough to handle the weight.
Why does "wall mount" equal "nail" to you?
wdlove
Aug 31, 2004, 11:23 AM
No, but I wouldn't have a problem with a few wall anchors that are large enough to handle the weight.
Why does "wall mount" equal "nail" to you?
For that kind of money, I would definitely want it professionally installed. Would still make me kind of nervous.
jsw
Aug 31, 2004, 11:29 AM
For that kind of money, I would definitely want it professionally installed. Would still make me kind of nervous.Do whatever makes you most comfortable, obviously, but the heaviest new iMac only weighs 25 pounds. Any wall-mount with at least four screws used to mount it will hold that weight with no difficulty whatsoever. Keep in mind that the vast majority of the force on the wall mount is down, not out, so unless you've got really bad drywall, it'd take a lot more than 25 pounds to drag four screws down the wall. The outward force is probably no more than 5 pounds, at worst.
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