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jefhatfield
Aug 7, 2002, 03:07 PM
for men?

for women?

overall over their competition?

i like pete sampras for men, steffi graf for women, and martina navratilova overall historically

navratilova had to re-make her game, and her weight, and go against the likes of everet, shriver, and graf and martina also did well in doubles, too

john macenroe had the best natural ability but lacked the mental game to stay consistent for a long time like connors (who had a great mental game)

micheal change had one of the best mental games and was surpassed only by sampras in his heyday

and ivan lendl was also a longtime consistent player and garnered eight titles and towards the end, he had john macenroe's number



jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 03:18 PM
rod laver!

and anna kournikova.


hahahaha! what a joke.


did chang ever even win any grand slam titles? maybe a us open or something?

jefhatfield
Aug 7, 2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
rod laver!

and anna kournikova.


hahahaha! what a joke.


did chang ever even win any grand slam titles? maybe a us open or something?

chang only won the french, and youngest player on men's side to win a major - first american to win on clay in thirty+ years (both were super big deals then, in 1989)...but he kept pace with sampras almost stroke for stroke and was number two for longest time

he never caught sampras but nobody did...at least until sampras got old...hey pete, gotta hide that baldspot;)

wake up Jobs!!!
Aug 7, 2002, 03:39 PM
Serena Williams as the woman

For the Men I like Tommy Hass, but he is not the best, the best player was the late great Arthur Ash.

Anyone who says Anna Kornicova is the best women does not even watch tennis. She is one of the worst players on the womens tour.

I like Tommy Hass because he uses a Dunlop raquet, like me :):D

Rower_CPU
Aug 7, 2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by wake up Jobs!!!

Anyone who says Anna Kornicova is the best women does not even watch tennis. She is one of the worst players on the womens tour.


Who cares how she plays?

She's frickin' HOT!!!:eek: :D :cool:

wake up Jobs!!!
Aug 7, 2002, 03:43 PM
Ill give you that, she is hot!

jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by wake up Jobs!!!
Anyone who says Anna Kornicova is the best women does not even watch tennis. She is one of the worst players on the womens tour.


luckily i realize you weren't referring to me... but i could see how others might think you were. so i'm pointing out, he's not talking about me here....

ok then.

i don't even think she's all that hot. something about martina hingis is more attractive to me....

sampras was amazing.

my favorite though... is/was rafter

"sorry, mate"

wake up Jobs!!!
Aug 7, 2002, 04:19 PM
I ws not refuring to you because you said "Just Kidding" . But in general, people think Anna is this awsome tennis player, when she sucks.
GaBe-

jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by wake up Jobs!!!
I ws not refuring to you because you said "Just Kidding" . But in general, people think Anna is this awsome tennis player, when she sucks.
GaBe-

true dat.

that's what i was getting at...

but really, i don't know of anyone who really thinks she's good...

tennis fan or not. they just know she's a doll.

Rower_CPU
Aug 7, 2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

i don't even think she's all that hot. something about martina hingis is more attractive to me....


Hmmm...don't see it...

jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 04:39 PM
hmm. really comparable pictures... jackass

i like brunettes more than blondes really.

martina hingis is kinda weird looking. but in a good way. to me

whereas anna is just the run of the mill skanky blonde who most people think is hot.

mcrain
Aug 7, 2002, 04:40 PM
Men-- Bjorn Borg was amazing in his day.

Women-- I'll take the Williams sisters.

Rower_CPU
Aug 7, 2002, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
hmm. really comparable pictures... jackass

i like brunettes more than blondes really.

martina hingis is kinda weird looking. but in a good way. to me

whereas anna is just the run of the mill skanky blonde who most people think is hot.

Just messing with ya...

AK is/was a model as well, so you're looking at the whole package (face and body). Hingis is cute, but doesn't have the bod to be a "hottie".

Besides, who said skanks are all bad?;)

jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 04:49 PM
hingis doesn't have the typical tiny little body... but she is a top athlete and quite fit...




stamina?????






ha!

skanks aren't bad if you're looking to get your rocks off.

which, i'm guessing at your size... well.. i'll leave it at that.

Rower_CPU
Aug 7, 2002, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
hingis doesn't have the typical tiny little body... but she is a top athlete and quite fit...

stamina?????

ha!

skanks aren't bad if you're looking to get your rocks off.

which, i'm guessing at your size... well.. i'll leave it at that.

Speaking of skanks...your Mom says to say "Hi".:rolleyes:

alex_ant
Aug 7, 2002, 05:09 PM
I'm sorry but Anna Kournikova is ugly. She's too skinny and bronzed to me, and I don't find the Eastern European complexion attractive. Martina Hingis is the best looking woman in tennis, and unlike Kournikova, she doesn't suck. She's got a great finesse game, although that has been eclipsed by the power game of the Williams sisters.

My favorite women's tennis player though is Monica Seles, who just seems like a fun gal in interviews. And you have to give her credit for coming back from that stabbing, even though she never regained her former glory... and the grunting is funny. :)

On the men's side, I don't know, I like both Sampras and Agassi... I tend to watch women's tennis more because there is more volleying going on as opposed to all the aces and smashing and quick points of the men's game.

Alex

ecino1
Aug 7, 2002, 06:09 PM
Ok, lets just get one thing straight; if you don't think Anna Kornikova is hot you are either:

a) Blind
or
b) Gay

Take your pick. And she may suck at tennis at the pro level. But shes on the tour so that must mean someting right?

krossfyter
Aug 7, 2002, 06:14 PM
Pete Rose.... nah.






heh:D ;)

alex_ant
Aug 7, 2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by ecino1
Ok, lets just get one thing straight; if you don't think Anna Kornikova is hot you are either:

a) Blind
or
b) Gay
Let's get one thing straight: Jelloshotsrule is the gay one, not me. I'm merely blind. Although I will admit he is kinda cute.

Kournikova = skank. That's my opinion, and it's the correct one! Everyone else is wrong. Thank you!

wake up Jobs!!!
Aug 7, 2002, 08:13 PM
Anna should be kick off the tour because she is so bad a tennis. Then, she can go into the Adult movie buissiness and make pronos if you think she is that hot.

She is so bad at tennis that I could probably beat her (I am Usta ranked, but not very high)

I guess she is pretty, but pretty does not cut it in the ATP tour!

Beej
Aug 7, 2002, 08:16 PM
Gotta love Pat Rafter... he's a true Aussie bloke :)

jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by alex_ant

Let's get one thing straight: Jelloshotsrule is the gay one, not me. I'm merely blind. Although I will admit he is kinda cute.

Kournikova = skank. That's my opinion, and it's the correct one! Everyone else is wrong. Thank you! [/B]

man, after reading your first post about kournikova, i was all ready to agree and take your side.

but now...... i'm rethinking


aussie bloke is right. and what a stud! oh wait, guess i AM gay... ahh well

jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Speaking of skanks...your Mom says to say "Hi".:rolleyes:

and your girlfriend says "thank you sir, may i have another?"

jefhatfield
Aug 7, 2002, 08:50 PM
kournikova is pretty in pop star type of way...like brittney spears

hingis is a classic beauty who will always look good

kournikova will gain weight and get prematurely wrinkled

but the voluptous one is still kournikova

Rower_CPU
Aug 7, 2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
and your girlfriend says "thank you sir, may i have another?"

I'm not surprised...she said you didn't pack much heat.:rolleyes:

Sun Baked
Aug 7, 2002, 09:23 PM
I prefer a cute or sultry looking brunette to a skanky looking blonde anyday.

That aside wasn't John Macenroe a drug using hack? And I don't mean roids?

And the Williams sisters are starting to look like they belong on the men's circuit? Heck some of the men don't have upper bodies that big?

jelloshotsrule
Aug 7, 2002, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU


I'm not surprised...she said you didn't pack much heat.:rolleyes:

yeah no kidding...

try living with that kind of a family curse.... ahh.

it sucks.

Rower_CPU
Aug 8, 2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
yeah no kidding...

try living with that kind of a family curse.... ahh.

it sucks.

No worries...it's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean...or so they say...:rolleyes:

alex_ant
Aug 8, 2002, 03:15 AM
"They?" Do you mean Gilligan, or do you mean the Skipper?

Macette
Aug 8, 2002, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by Beej
Gotta love Pat Rafter... he's a true Aussie bloke :)

Yay Pat!

Martina Hingis is a homophobic dork. I used to have the hots, but then she said all this dodge stuff at the Australia Open and I went off her.

Anna Kournikova leaves me cold. But then, I guess I AM gay. :D

I like Boris Becker best.

jefhatfield
Aug 8, 2002, 05:07 AM
that's too bad about martina hingis

i still think she is a beauty much more than anna kournikova

are martina and anna both teens still? i know when i first heard of martina hingis, she was only seventeen but the world's number one...that is young

i think andrea jaeger, from yesteryear, was a younger number one and tracy austin was also a young top ranked player

but it's sad how much attention is paid to how anna looks and though she is not number one, she is still a touring pro and could clean the clock of all female players not super highly ranked and most men players not ranked at the top of the open status

i remember beating this college male player in the a category and i felt pretty good...then one day, i played, for kicks, an open level female player, ranked between 100 and 200 in the world, and she beat me handily

i could not even return one serve of hers since they went over 100 mph...it's amazing to be on the other end of one of those with someone who can place it with hawkeye accuracy

and then you have venus williams drilling one at 127 mph...faster than john mac enroe in his day with wood rackets

but john mac enroe in his prime, with a wood racket, would easily beat venus williams today even if she had a titanium racket

but if venus now, in her prime, played john mac enroe who is an aging baby boomer nearing fifty, she would possibly beat him...but that is not fair pitting a top woman against a man who saw his best tennis twenty years ago...remember riggs vs. king...riggs was ancient like mac enroe is today

the number 200 man in the world on the pro tour today could beat venus in straight sets if he were to play her

and john mac enroe said that an open level touring player who happened to be playing in college right now with 120 mph serves could beat venus today and he would be a nobody playing for some unknown college team for free

now i sound like a sexist, but in tennis, we will never see the woman's number one beat the man's number one

in golf, pool, bowling, race car driving, archery, shooting, judo, horse racing, or super marathon running...a woman can beat a man in top pro form and it some cases it has happened

but in tennis, no way *but i may be proven wrong and it would be fun to see venus kick andre agassi's butt on center court:p

alex_ant
Aug 8, 2002, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Macette
Martina Hingis is a homophobic dork. I used to have the hots, but then she said all this dodge stuff at the Australia Open and I went off her.
Do you know what she said exactly? I'm just curious - I heard about this too, but I never heard what she said.

I think she's 21, and I heard she was dating her 30ish lawyer or something. What a shame. Sooner or later she will see the light and proclaim her true love for alex_ant.

Alex

jelloshotsrule
Aug 8, 2002, 09:58 AM
hingis is dating sergio garcia

hard not to have heard about that

unless you have your head up your ass, especially wanting hingis as bad as you do.

sorry, just getting you back with that one.



rower- gotta have an ocean to motion with first unfortunately...

Rower_CPU
Aug 8, 2002, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

rower- gotta have an ocean to motion with first unfortunately...

What? No more gf?

jelloshotsrule
Aug 8, 2002, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
What? No more gf?

oh no, i got that...

i guess what's missing is more properly termed "the boat".. as opposed to the ocean.

like i said. family curses are rough.

Rower_CPU
Aug 8, 2002, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
oh no, i got that...

i guess what's missing is more properly termed "the boat".. as opposed to the ocean.

like i said. family curses are rough.

So you don't even have a little dinghy?:confused:

jelloshotsrule
Aug 8, 2002, 11:25 AM
haha.

how about a "harbor"


2 "inny" belly buttons is not a good thing

let me tell you




what the *%#$#?

Rower_CPU
Aug 8, 2002, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
haha.

how about a "harbor"


2 "inny" belly buttons is not a good thing

let me tell you




what the *%#$#?

Dude...that's just wrong.:confused:

jelloshotsrule
Aug 8, 2002, 11:42 AM
ahh, it's funny to me at least.


but indeed it's wrong. try living with it!