iTunes Canada - Next Month?

[MacRumors]

The National Post (subscription) (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=db69b6ed-dcec-4029-b3b8-425bbdc194ae) reports that iTunes Canada may be imminent:

ITunes, Apple Computer Inc.'s hugely popular online music service, is gearing up for a Canadian launch that could come as early as next month, music industry sources say.

An earlier Page 2 rumor (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/10/20041012011843.shtml) hinted at November 26th as a possible launch date.

Previous reports (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/10/20031020131949.shtml) had noted that Apple was actively working to launch the service.

[adam1185]

wooo...cross your fingers!

[AmigoMac]

More? we have crossed our fingers for iTMS canada during the last year... it's hurting... wait and see... someday it should be true... :p

[adam1185]

someone at appleinsider posted the whole article

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47182

[Counterfit]

I think this has got to be a record or something:
http://homepage.mac.com/counterfit/pics/MRrecord.png

[swissmann]

Now this makes it a page one rumor? I think of course Canada will get it. It is just a matter of when.

[quackattack]

I'm just suprised it is taking so long

[sworthy]

If I heard the conference call correctly it was said that their would be a new country added this month.

Option 1: Canada is added this month

Option 2: Another country this month, Canada next month

[JDOG_]

I'm putting my money on them adding iTMS Africa.

Seriously though, this should have happened a lonnnng time ago.

[dejo]

Beauty, eh!

My hope for iTMS Canada: Take off!

(Sorry, just having a Bob & Doug moment. I'm a Canuck living in the Denver area now).

[AdamHerbison]

I would have to agree that Canada is next. Pepsi Canada started "An iPod Every Hour For Twelve Weeks!" promotion (thats 2016 iPods). Started October 3rd and ending December 25th. www.pepsi.ca/ipod/ (http://www.pepsi.ca/ipod/). So far no mention of this promotion on Apple Canada's web site.

[adamberti]

I'm from Canada and I'm all for it, but when you think about it - it's not worth the effort at first. We're a country of 30 million, that's a fraction of many other countries in Europe and the US. Sure, Apple doesnt want to leave Canadian customers stranded without services, but I don't see a priority from a business point of view. I'm an Apple customer because of the Macintosh, not the iTMS. So Canada certainly isnt a priority, but BRING IT ON!

[MacMarino]

Its good to hear that Apple is actively pursuing this. Whereas in Australia we dont get so much as a peep out of the people running the Australian side of Apple. However, if another country is to be added this month, im thinking that Japan (120 million people) would be a good bet in there too.

Macmarino :p

[Zaty]

If I heard the conference call correctly it was said that their would be a new country added this month.

Option 1: Canada is added this month

Option 2: Another country this month, Canada next month

Didn't he say they were opening new European stores by the end of this month? I don't remember any hint towards a new non-European store.

[ASP272]

Being a page 1 rumor I am less skeptical of the previously noted time frame, as early as next month. I don't see why Apple would have too many issues with launching in Canada. At least, not as many as they had in Europe.

[virividox]

its about time for people in canada!!! its weird that it came to europe first

[Super Dave]

From page 2 to page 1! Nice. Now if only it went from page 1 to reality…

David :cool:

[Doga]

An iTMS Canada launch in November would be very good news.

But there will be a catch - the only available artists will be Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Rita McNeil, Valdy, and of course, Dan Hill.

[Stella]

Because there is another source to this, my optimism has risen slightly.

@Zaty
As you well know, Apple rarely speak publicly of their plans. I'm sure they have imminent plans for other iTMS stores in the works.

[nagromme]

Will there be another music "Apple event" for the press soon maybe?

60 GB iPod, revised Mini, new European stores, and/or pre-announcement of Canada?

[didjitalmaus]

I thought this day would never come! Although I think we'll get screwed over on the song price even thought our dollar has jumped up to $0.80. Ideally, we should be paying CDN $0.99 per song and Americans should be paying USD $0.79 :rolleyes:. I used "The Long Tail" article from the October issure of Wired (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html) as reference. It's a really good article!

[steven_yyz]

But there will be a catch - the only available artists will be Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Rita McNeil, Valdy, and of course, Dan Hill.

OH yeah, but don't forget Avril, Shania, Alanis.

I have been waiting for iTMS to come to Canada, I'm jealous of my friend who has a US billing address so he can get music off of the US iTMS.

[MiquelCo]

Today is october 14. No news on the launch in continental Europe that was reported last moth, maybe its delayed, or it will be at the end of the month, tomorrow? or 16...

[ijimk]

Give our neighbors to the north music! Go apple give em itunes ! :)

[aricher]

Guess who is coming next...

[Poff]

Hey! What about Norway??

MSN have announced they will be here by the end of the month! I still have hopes that Apple will beat them just at the finish-line! :p

[JGowan]

It's got to be that AWFUL APPLE COMPUTER COMPANY... it couldn't have ANYTHING to do with some Canadian politics and corporate Canadian hoops for Apple to jump through. No... it's gotta be Apple. They're just not trying hard enough, the slackers.

[Yvan256]

I would have to agree that Canada is next. Pepsi Canada started "An iPod Every Hour For Twelve Weeks!" promotion (thats 2016 iPods). Started October 3rd and ending December 25th. www.pepsi.ca/ipod/ (http://www.pepsi.ca/ipod/). So far no mention of this promotion on Apple Canada's web site.

I've yet to see any Pepsi bottle with the iPod promo on it (they're all still "hockey jersey" or something).

Why can't they start promotions when the bottles are *actually in the stores*! <g>

[uv23]

It's got to be that AWFUL APPLE COMPUTER COMPANY... it couldn't have ANYTHING to do with some Canadian politics and corporate Canadian hoops for Apple to jump through. No... it's gotta be Apple. They're just not trying hard enough, the slackers.
Whatever. Pure Tracks has been here for ages and Napster is also here already. Apple has a lot of catching up to do.

[Codemonkey]

I've yet to see any Pepsi bottle with the iPod promo on it (they're all still "hockey jersey" or something).

Why can't they start promotions when the bottles are *actually in the stores*! <g>

don't worry about it - if you do the 'no purchase necessary' option, you too can play!

It's what I'm doing. During work hours, no less... :D

[Codemonkey]

Whatever. Pure Tracks has been here for ages and Napster is also here already. Apple has a lot of catching up to do.

I'm sort of on the fence over this one. I buy PureTracks.com stuff @ work, 'cause I'm coincidentally on a PeeCee. Then I burn them to an image, mount the image and rip the songs to MP3 so I can listen to them on my mac @ home. Certainly not ideal, even though it 'works'. I would love a solution that wasn't such a PITA.

I don't think it'll take much for most ppl to jump the PureTracks ship...

Oh, and my method is recommended for 'geeks' only - most consumers would have no idea how to go about doing that...

[Codemonkey]

Give our neighbors to the north music! Go apple give em itunes ! :)

Well, we have iTunes - we just want to be able to buy iTMS music. :-)

[Raid]

Well colour me optimistic. :cool: It's been a long time coming, but I'm still not going to hold my breath. I want the iTMS, but I'm sick of waiting! :(

[Codemonkey]

colour

Hey hey! No alternate spellings here! You'll confuse the 'Muricans! :p

[~Shard~]

As I've said in all the Page 2 threads, bring it on! Then I won't have to keep bugging my brother in NY to download tracks for me. ;)

[granex]

An iTMS Canada launch in November would be very good news.

But there will be a catch - the only available artists will be Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Rita McNeil, Valdy, and of course, Dan Hill.

And the Arrogant Worms

[Yvan256]

don't worry about it - if you do the 'no purchase necessary' option, you too can play!

It's what I'm doing. During work hours, no less... :D

What "no purchase encessary option" are you talking about? :confused:

[Codemonkey]

What "no purchase encessary option" are you talking about? :confused:

Did you sign up? Click on Enter Tickets or whatever on the main map. On the popup window, you'll see a link down at the bottom.

[fartheststar]

I'm sort of on the fence over this one. I buy PureTracks.com stuff @ work, 'cause I'm coincidentally on a PeeCee. Then I burn them to an image, mount the image and rip the songs to MP3 so I can listen to them on my mac @ home. Certainly not ideal, even though it 'works'. I would love a solution that wasn't such a PITA.

I don't think it'll take much for most ppl to jump the PureTracks ship...

Oh, and my method is recommended for 'geeks' only - most consumers would have no idea how to go about doing that...

I think we may have 4 or 5 music services here in Canada. I don't care because none of them are itunes. In fact, most of them are puretracks "rebranded" with another name "Futureshop Bonfire", Pure tracks, etc etc, etc... same S*** different name. Bring on the ITMS!

[BADlands]

I've yet to see any Pepsi bottle with the iPod promo on it (they're all still "hockey jersey" or something).

Why can't they start promotions when the bottles are *actually in the stores*! <g>

Here on the East coast of Canada, the Pepsi bottles were in the stores before the October 3 start date. The codes are under the label instead of under the cap. I guess they learnt from the US iTunes bottle tilting co*k up.

BTW: I won an iPod on Sunday. My first! :D

[Codemonkey]

Here on the East coast of Canada, the Pepsi bottles were in the stores before the October 3 start date. The codes are under the label instead of under the cap. I guess they learnt from the US iTunes bottle tilting co*k up.

BTW: I won an iPod on Sunday. My first! :D

Hey! Congrats! I do envy you. If you don't mind me asking, what was your tactic?

[Dessert Whip]

Today is october 14. No news on the launch in continental Europe that was reported last moth, maybe its delayed, or it will be at the end of the month, tomorrow? or 16...

huh???

[Super Dave]

An iTMS Canada launch in November would be very good news.

But there will be a catch - the only available artists will be Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Rita McNeil, Valdy, and of course, Dan Hill.

You can dis the rest, but not Rita! Nova Scotia pride baby! I know Anne's from Nova Scotia too, but man... it's hard not to dis her. ;)

In all seriousness though, I do hope they have good Canadian content like Sam Roberts, The Hip, and if they're going to work with independents they should get Swollen Members. Can't you just see them doing the press announcement with Steve Jobs. I'd love a press release from Apple with their name in it.

"Steve Jobs gets a little help from the Swollen Members"

David :cool:

[MacinDoc]

I've yet to see any Pepsi bottle with the iPod promo on it (they're all still "hockey jersey" or something).

Why can't they start promotions when the bottles are *actually in the stores*! <g>
Yes, just like with the previous Pepsi/iTunes promo, you'd think they were actually trying not to give anything away!

[~Shard~]

Yes, just like with the previous Pepsi/iTunes promo, you'd think they were actually trying not to give anything away!

There was a Pepsi/iTunes promotion? Since when? ;) :cool:

[killmoms]

woohoo....

this can only mean a 2 button mouse in December...

Did you say PowerBook G5?

:p

[~Shard~]

Did you say PowerBook G5?

:p

No, he didn't. :p :cool:

[agentkow]

In all seriousness though, I do hope they have good Canadian content like Sam Roberts, The Hip, and if they're going to work with independents they should get Swollen Members.

I don't think we have any reason to believe they would take these artists out of the iTunes Music Store for its Canadian release, because if you go there, they are all in there.

Mind you, there is not that much Swollen Members stuff, but they are pretty small as far as the American scene. If I went to school with that girl who's in all their videos, and I'm just a random Canadian guy, then there you go.

[elgruga]

just a reminder that file swapping is LEGAL in Canada - we pay a levy on all cd's, tapes, music players ($25 on an iPod) etc.

iTunes will be great - hope it doesnt just have Canadian artists.......eh?

More seriously, I hate to see any news about Canada - its pretty good here - dont tell anyone.
We dont want anyone thinking that anything happens here - its an empty wilderness of snow, OK?

We didnt invade Iraq, we dont shoot people, (well not many) we dont have much crime. Kind of like Switzerland only nice. We even have virtually legal marijuana, if thats your bent.
When we have elections its great - no matter who wins the election, nothing changes. The politicians are criminals, of course, like anywhere, but they are kind of inept. Its kind of cool up here.

[atomiton]

I'm sort of on the fence over this one. I buy PureTracks.com stuff @ work, 'cause I'm coincidentally on a PeeCee. Then I burn them to an image, mount the image and rip the songs to MP3 so I can listen to them on my mac @ home. Certainly not ideal, even though it 'works'. I would love a solution that wasn't such a PITA.

I don't think it'll take much for most ppl to jump the PureTracks ship...

Oh, and my method is recommended for 'geeks' only - most consumers would have no idea how to go about doing that...

How do you retain the ID3 Tags? I'd hate to rewrite all the metadata!!!

[atomiton]

I'm from Canada and I'm all for it, but when you think about it - it's not worth the effort at first. We're a country of 30 million, that's a fraction of many other countries in Europe and the US. Sure, Apple doesnt want to leave Canadian customers stranded without services, but I don't see a priority from a business point of view. I'm an Apple customer because of the Macintosh, not the iTMS. So Canada certainly isnt a priority, but BRING IT ON!

UK Has 55 Million
Germany has 80 million
France has 60 million.

There's more money to be made in Europe...
very slim margins in Canada if tracks are priced at $0.99 CAD...
However:
There is already an established group of downloaders
The highest saturation/capita of high-speed users in the world
The cheapest high-speed prices in the world.

[~Shard~]

just a reminder that file swapping is LEGAL in Canada - we pay a levy on all cd's, tapes, music players ($25 on an iPod) etc.

For now, that is. Gotta take advantage of that while we can! ;)

iTunes will be great - hope it doesnt just have Canadian artists.......eh?

Why not? Plenty of Canadian artists are excellent. Depends on your tastes, I suppose...

More seriously, I hate to see any news about Canada - its pretty good here - dont tell anyone.
We dont want anyone thinking that anything happens here - its an empty wilderness of snow, OK?

We didnt invade Iraq, we dont shoot people, (well not many) we dont have much crime. Kind of like Switzerland only nice. We even have virtually legal marijuana, if thats your bent.

True, it is a great country, but there's nothing wrong with Switzerland - I've been there and I found it quite beautiful as well. But yes, as far as everyone else is concerned we live in igloos and play hockey all day. Nothing else here to see, just move along... :cool:

[MacinDoc]

UK Has 55 Million
Germany has 80 million
France has 60 million.

There's more money to be made in Europe...
very slim margins in Canada if tracks are priced at $0.99 CAD...
However:
There is already an established group of downloaders
The highest saturation/capita of high-speed users in the world
The cheapest high-speed prices in the world.
Agreed. Also, if Apple wants to continue to enjoy its world dominance in the MP3 player/music download business, it has to pay attention to markets in which competitors such as PureTracks already exist.

[~Shard~]

UK Has 55 Million
Germany has 80 million
France has 60 million.

There's more money to be made in Europe...
very slim margins in Canada if tracks are priced at $0.99 CAD...
However:
There is already an established group of downloaders
The highest saturation/capita of high-speed users in the world
The cheapest high-speed prices in the world.

True and true - we only have a population of ~32 million, but are the second largest country in the entire world. But our high speed network here is quite advanced. I know, I work at for the largest ISP/Telco in my province and a couple years ago I was the Project Manager for all high speed networks here for 2 years. Last year we succeeded in rolling out high speed Internet to every community here with a population of 500 people or more - and now we're beginning phase 2 to address smaller communities. And this is quite the undertaking if you have any concept of the physical size of our province and the distances between communities. I don't know many other places in the entire world where every community with a population of 500 or more has high speed access. And then I talk to people in New York, Chicago, etc. who tell me that even in the heart of some of these large cities high speed access is scarce, let alone on the outskirts... and it's slow compared to ours too...

So bring on iTMS Canada, I can't wait!

[MacinDoc]

True and true - we only have a population of ~32 million, but are the second largest country in the entire world. But our high speed network here is quite advanced. I know, I work at for the largest ISP/Telco in my province and a couple years ago I was the Project Manager for all high speed networks here for 2 years. Last year we succeeded in rolling out high speed Internet to every community here with a population of 500 people or more - and now we're beginning phase 2 to address smaller communities. And this is quite the undertaking if you have any concept of the physical size of our province and the distances between communities. I don't know many other places in the entire world where every community with a population of 500 or more has high speed access. And then I talk to people in New York, Chicago, etc. who tell me that even in the heart of some of these large cities high speed access is scarce, let alone on the outskirts... and it's slow compared to ours too...

So bring on iTMS Canada, I can't wait!
Yes, Canada is truly becoming a wired nation, with respect to the internet. In your neighbour province, Alberta, there is also a project underway to provided high-speed access to every community, irrespective of size.

I seem to remember, too, that although Canada's population is only 10% that of the U.S. its on-line purchases are much more than 10% of Americans' on-line purchases. It seems to me that the study I read suggested that Canadians were twice as likely to make on-line purchases as Americans.

[~Shard~]

I seem to remember, too, that although Canada's population is only 10% that of the U.S. its on-line purchases are much more than 10% of Americans' on-line purchases. It seems to me that the study I read suggested that Canadians were twice as likely to make on-line purchases as Americans.

I could see that. I guess the true test might come when iTMS is announced. ;) :cool:

[Super Dave]

I could see that. I guess the true test might come when iTMS is announced. ;) :cool:

Canada has always been more technologically advances than the US as far as the average citizen goes. Back in the day when cable television was a benchmark, (and as far as I know today could be the same), Canada had the highest rate of cable TV subscribers in the world, far higher than the US. We have had significantly less expensive broadband here almost since its inception.

Regarding online stores, I believe Amazon expanded to Canada following its migration to the major European centers, and aside from Japan has not moved on much. Canada is a great place to do online business, especially digital download business which requires high speed internet.

This is not to mention the wealth of Canadian talent in musical enterprise, many which fail to reach the US not because of lack of talent, but because of poor marketing, or because it is a music only Canadians will "get." I mean did Sam Roberts, a guy who sings a song called "The Canadian Dream" really have any chance of making it down south? Not really, but he still rocks!

David :cool:

[~Shard~]

Canada has always been more technologically advances than the US as far as the average citizen goes. Back in the day when cable television was a benchmark, (and as far as I know today could be the same), Canada had the highest rate of cable TV subscribers in the world, far higher than the US. We have had significantly less expensive broadband here almost since its inception.

Very true. Here in Saskatchewan our "light" package (256 kbps symmetrical) is only $23/month CAD (only $16 USD/month), and one of our high end packages, offering 5 Mbps is only $45/month CAD (only $33 USD). Throw in promotions, etc. and it's even cheaper, especially when you bundle it with cell phone, local phone, long distance and digital TV. :cool:

It's great to be a Canadian! :)

[mike301]

just a reminder that file swapping is LEGAL in Canada - we pay a levy on all cd's, tapes, music players ($25 on an iPod) etc.


Just to drive this point home, having a lower price point for the Canadian iTMS makes sense since we're already paying artists with a portion of the price we pay for blank media. Apple's margin on iTMS sales therefore not necessarily the same as in the US.

[~Shard~]

An iTMS Canada announcement might be imminent - if you go to the iTMS in iTunes, it gives you the standard "iTMS is not available in your country" message. But then it redirects you to a page where you're supposed to select the country of whose iTMS you want to browse. After selecting the USA, it redirects me again to the same screen - "iTMS is not available in your country".

So, is this a glitch, or is this a sign? In short, Canadians do not appear to be able to access iTMS to browse anymore. Interesting... :cool:

[mike301]

An iTMS Canada announcement might be imminent - if you go to the iTMS in iTunes, it gives you the standard "iTMS is not available in your country" message. But then it redirects you to a page where you're supposed to select the country of whose iTMS you want to browse. After selecting the USA, it redirects me again to the same screen - "iTMS is not available in your country".

So, is this a glitch, or is this a sign? In short, Canadians do not appear to be able to access iTMS to browse anymore. Interesting... :cool:

I've posted something similiar in another thread here... I think this is a very interesting development!

[B. McKechnie]

You can still browse and preview in the iTMS.

After you click OK and select a country you are redirected back to the country warning. Here must choose BROWSE in the top right corner. You can now select tracks to preview, etc.

[mike301]

You can still browse and preview in the iTMS.

After you click OK and select a country you are redirected back to the country warning. Here must choose BROWSE in the top right corner. You can now select tracks to preview, etc.

Good point, and I've read in another thread that you can also search the store. However, we can no longer access the actual store (front page, artists' pages, etc.).

[~Shard~]

I've posted something similiar in another thread here... I think this is a very interesting development!

Yep - I actually submitted it to MacRumors earlier and it made the first page of rumors! It's nice to be credited with the story and be recognized... :)

[B. McKechnie]

Well it looks like Canada was screwed by Apple again.

The NEW list of countries as of 1:11PM Oct. 26, 2004:

Austria
Belgium
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Italy
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Spain
UK
USA

[pnfburnt]

check out the presss release Itunes Canada launcing in November WOOHOO!

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/oct/26itmseu.html

[kettle]

Where did you say Canada was again?






;)

[Nermal]

It's the thin strip of land above a US weather map :D

Note: I didn't make this up, so I don't deserve credit :(

[aswitcher]

It's the thin strip of land above a US weather map :D

Note: I didn't make this up, so I don't deserve credit :(

Well at least they are on the Apple map...clearly DownUnder is not at this time...

[bousozoku]

Well it looks like Canada was screwed by Apple again.

The NEW list of countries as of 1:11PM Oct. 26, 2004:

Austria
Belgium
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Italy
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Spain
UK
USA

More than likely, it was Canada's government and recording companies.

[Sayhey]

Well it looks like Canada was screwed by Apple again.

An announcement of a November opening of iTunes Canada is hardly getting "screwed." Now, Ireland (the only country in the Euro zone not part of this rollout,) Japan, and Australia have something to complain about!

[~Shard~]

It's the thin strip of land above a US weather map :D

Note: I didn't make this up, so I don't deserve credit :(

Thanks for your disclaimer, if you didn't add that I would have to beat you since I in fact made that comment in another thread. :p ;) :cool:

[Nermal]

I thought it was you but wasn't entirely sure, so I didn't mention you by name :eek:

[~Shard~]

I thought it was you but wasn't entirely sure, so I didn't mention you by name :eek:

No worries, it's all good. :)

[stcanard]

very slim margins in Canada if tracks are priced at $0.99 CAD...

Just wanted to point out that this is not necessarily true.

We're not talking about a case where there's a fixed cost for the media. A deal could be negotiated where the recording companies still get $0.89 CAD, apple get $0.10 and the margins are exactly the same.

I'm assuming that there is no marginal cost for new stores; there is a fixed startup cost fo the new localizations, new deals and that's it. The infrastructure for delivering everything is already there.

[B. McKechnie]

Well it looks like Canada was screwed by Apple again.

The NEW list of countries as of 1:11PM Oct. 26, 2004:

Austria
Belgium
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Italy
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Spain
UK
USA

Posted this before seeing the press release. Apple has now UNSCREWED Canada! Thanks Apple!

[onlyafterdark]

Now its just a question of when in November it will come out.

[~Shard~]

Now its just a question of when in November it will come out.

The original Page 2 Rumor cited November 26th, but that date is probably just as realistic as any other. I would imagine it would be later in November rather than earlier though... At least we know we're getting it for sure in the near future! :cool:

[onlyafterdark]

Ya that was what I was thinking too. Next week seems like a big maybe with the last couple of weeks looking more probable.

[mertab]

I just clicked Music Store and the message that says not yet available has changed. Rather than linking through to my previous selection, it now asks "To browse a music store, click here". Once I click on that, I get the page with all the country buttons. When I choose U.S., it goes back to "To browse a music store...

This is different than before. I wonder if this is them gearing up to launch sooner than the 26th?

[DigitalLifeDad]

I just clicked Music Store and the message that says not yet available has changed. Rather than linking through to my previous selection, it now asks "To browse a music store, click here". Once I click on that, I get the page with all the country buttons. When I choose U.S., it goes back to "To browse a music store...

This is different than before. I wonder if this is them gearing up to launch sooner than the 26th?

I live in Toronto and I just had the same experience as mertab. I cannot access the music store , even to browse...the "Your country..." text is a different font now and this is exactly what happened the night prior to the big "European" unveiling.

:) Could I Be Anymore Excited!!! :)

iTMS... WELCOME TO CANADA!!!


Here we go>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[circworld]

I just clicked Music Store and the message that says not yet available has changed. Rather than linking through to my previous selection, it now asks "To browse a music store, click here". Once I click on that, I get the page with all the country buttons. When I choose U.S., it goes back to "To browse a music store...

This is different than before. I wonder if this is them gearing up to launch sooner than the 26th?

Well after some playing around I found:
http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_canada.jpg

So I guess it's due out for really soon...

[adamberti]

I can't get in period. I get the browse music screen, and then when I click to continue, I get a pop-up: "Could not complete the Music Store request. The store may be busy. Check your internet connection or try again later."

Do you really think we would see deployment on a saturday? Doesnt seem right to me. Maybe this way the load is spread out as most people would not find out until Monday?

Someone please take away my credit-card.

[esmarshall]

Look Guys,
Regent Street is opening tomorrow, tomorrow is the last day of MacExpo, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT! it's a huge international day tomorrow. AND weekends are awesome for holiday shopping. if steve knows what's good for him it's gonna happen tomorrow!

It'll be great for us eh?

-Ellie
4G 20g ipod, g5 17" imac superdrive 512 ram

[circworld]

Look Guys,
Regent Street is opening tomorrow, tomorrow is the last day of MacExpo, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT! it's a huge international day tomorrow. AND weekends are awesome for holiday shopping. if steve knows what's good for him it's gonna happen tomorrow!

It'll be great for us eh?

-Ellie
4G 20g ipod, g5 17" imac superdrive 512 ram

I totally agree + the fact that if you really want you can get in and have a peek at the library... anybody have a Canadian artist that is currently not in the stores Apple deployed to date so that I can check if it really works...

[HoserHead]

I live in Toronto and I just had the same experience as mertab. I cannot access the music store , even to browse...the "Your country..." text is a different font now and this is exactly what happened the night prior to the big "European" unveiling.
That's true, but you have to remember that it was happening to everybody in the world whose country didn't have an iTMS. At most, I think we can assume that the iTMS is going to expand soon. Of course, since Apple's publically announced that the iTMS Canada will be opening this month, we know that it's happening soon..

Add that to the flag circworld found, and it's pretty conclusive.

[HoserHead]

Well after some playing around I found:
http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_canada.jpg

So I guess it's due out for really soon...
That's absolutely awesome.

Also of note:
Ireland: http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_ireland.jpg

Haven't found any other interesting ones. All the current flags seem to be represented.

[circworld]

That's absolutely awesome.

Also of note:
Ireland: http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_ireland.jpg

Haven't found any other interesting ones. All the current flags seem to be represented.
Yep Ireland is Store ID : 143449
Canada is : 143455

For now no other storeID after ...455 exists so in short term Ireland & Canada

[aswitcher]

Yep Ireland is Store ID : 143449
Canada is : 143455

For now no other storeID after ...455 exists so in short term Ireland & Canada

How did you figure this out?

[circworld]

How did you figure this out?

Looking at the source of the country select page and mixing the results with the iTMS Link Maker

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/com.apple.jingle.app.store.DirectAction/countrySelectorPage

Notice that there is a hole in between 48 (Greece) and 50 (Italy)

Example 1: (Store Front: Canada)
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/15/wa/com.apple.jingle.search.DirectAction/pickITMSLink?songName=Vertigo&searchType=1&storeFrontId=143455&artistName=U2&plid=23588535&id=23588537&playlistName=Vertigo

Example 2: (Store Front: Ireland)
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/15/wa/com.apple.jingle.search.DirectAction/pickITMSLink?songName=Vertigo&searchType=1&storeFrontId=143449&artistName=U2&plid=23588535&id=23588537&playlistName=Vertigo

[aswitcher]

Thanks....ok so no Aussie iTunes Music Store...

[Yvan256]

I can't get in period. I get the browse music screen, and then when I click to continue, I get a pop-up: "Could not complete the Music Store request. The store may be busy. Check your internet connection or try again later."

Do you really think we would see deployment on a saturday? Doesnt seem right to me. Maybe this way the load is spread out as most people would not find out until Monday?

Someone please take away my credit-card.

Well, I'm stuck in the endless loop too. Someone also said earlier that Apple had events on sunday.

My guess is for tomorrow, 2004-11-21.

As for the flag images, well, I sure hope Ireland gets their iTMS soon too. This "U2 iPod" is ridiculous if Ireland doesn't even have a iTMS. :(

[HoserHead]

Example 1: (Store Front: Canada)
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/15/wa/com.apple.jingle.search.DirectAction/pickITMSLink?songName=Vertigo&searchType=1&storeFrontId=143455&artistName=U2&plid=23588535&id=23588537&playlistName=Vertigo

Example 2: (Store Front: Ireland)
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/15/wa/com.apple.jingle.search.DirectAction/pickITMSLink?songName=Vertigo&searchType=1&storeFrontId=143449&artistName=U2&plid=23588535&id=23588537&playlistName=Vertigo
If, like me, you're sitting and waiting for Apple to officially make the Canadian iTMS available, here's a fun thing to do:
1. Go to the home of the iTMS.
2. Select the UK. Just stay at the "The iTMS is not available in your country yet" screen.
3. Go to the above Canada Vertigo link maker link. Click on the generated Vertigo link.

The attached window will pop up. Of course, when you click "Go to store," it dumps you in the U.S. store and says the item's not available.

Waiting anxiously...

[agentkow]

You can still get into the store to browse, although it still appears to be the US store (when you go to buy song it specifically asks you to start an account for the US Store).

Just type in the artist you are searching for in the top right searchy box in iTunes, and you'll get in.

[agentkow]

If, like me, you're sitting and waiting for Apple to officially make the Canadian iTMS available, here's a fun thing to do:
1. Go to the home of the iTMS.
2. Select the UK. Just stay at the "The iTMS is not available in your country yet" screen.
3. Go to the above Canada Vertigo link maker link. Click on the generated Vertigo link.

The attached window will pop up. Of course, when you click "Go to store," it dumps you in the U.S. store and says the item's not available.

Waiting anxiously...

WAIT A SEC...I just did the above but I got into the Vertigo section, no error message or anything! What do I do now? Or am I still in the US Store...

EDIT: Never mind, it's still the US Store after all, but I don't get that error message in either in the Canada or Ireland links.

[Vigo_carpath]

I thought this day would never come! Although I think we'll get screwed over on the song price even thought our dollar has jumped up to $0.80. Ideally, we should be paying CDN $0.99 per song and Americans should be paying USD $0.79 :rolleyes:. I used "The Long Tail" article from the October issure of Wired (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html) as reference. It's a really good article!

Don't forget in Canada that we already pay out millions to the recording industry just for buying mp3 players and recordable media, therefore our price should be significantly reduced as we have this tax imposed on us. Personally I'm going to have a hard time justifying purchasing music off itunes when I already give the recording industry money with out even getting any music for it.

[celebi23]

Can someone please post jpegs of the clues to a Candian and Ireland iTMS because my school doesn't have iTunes and I can't see the pics :(

[zapbranigan]

EDIT: Kif, you fool, you've posted my thoughts in the wrong thread again!