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Durandal7
Aug 12, 2002, 02:19 AM
Yet another poll.



job
Aug 12, 2002, 02:27 AM
I'm going to wait for the 4 disc DVD box set out just in time for the holiday season. :)

mac15
Aug 12, 2002, 06:16 AM
I saw it today,cause a mate bought it on DVD and wow its actually good, I didn't think it would be so good, so I'm going to the movies to see part 2 when it comes out

Mr. Anderson
Aug 12, 2002, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by mac15
I saw it today,cause a mate bought it on DVD and wow its actually good, I didn't think it would be so good, so I'm going to the movies to see part 2 when it comes out

Its going to be a good set of DVDs, but I'm wondering what will be available after the last movie comes out in 03, they'll have a special boxed set then - it might be worth waiting for.

D

mac15
Aug 12, 2002, 06:31 AM
yeah cool until then I'll bludge a copy of it of my mate

gaomay
Aug 12, 2002, 07:06 AM
Apparently the 4 disc collectors thingy comes with Argonath bookends as well as the 30 mins extra film footage - more of the battle scenes which were cut to get the rating.

Durandal7
Aug 12, 2002, 01:08 PM
I think that I may get the collectors edition just to see those extra battle scenes. You can never have too many battle scenes.

topicolo
Aug 12, 2002, 01:26 PM
Amen to that! Violence is good! (well, as long as it doesn't happen to you);)

dnte42
Aug 12, 2002, 01:47 PM
I'll probably become friends with someone who has the DVD (or find the rip floating around the college network, shh :eek: ) for the extras, but I probably won't buy it. Good movie, but if I need a fix I'll read the book, it just has that flavor (old dirty paper, until I get a new copy) and that richness that just doesn't translate to the screen. Some of the movie was just too slow for me...while those parts of the book were fairly enjoyable because of Tolkien's style.

elensil
Aug 12, 2002, 02:25 PM
I am definitely waiting for November (thats when extended edition comes out). I would enjoy those extra 30 minutes.

rainman::|:|
Aug 12, 2002, 03:20 PM
i finally got around to reading the books just before the dvd came out (didnt see it in theatre) and so of course i loved it, bought the dvd... kinda pissed about the special edition coming out later like that... tho if, at the end, they make a set of the special editions, i'll prolly get it :)

pnw

bousozoku
Aug 12, 2002, 03:35 PM
After looking at the DVD on my PowerMac, it just makes me realize how much I need a new t.v. :(

britboy
Aug 12, 2002, 03:43 PM
I'll be waiting for the 4 disc boxed set in november. The film just left so many parts from the book out, so i figure i'll wait for the extended version. I've got a borrowed version to tie me over 'till then..... i'll probably survive the wait ;)

Can't wait for Two Towers to come out......

Durandal7
Aug 12, 2002, 03:48 PM
They left out some parts, but as far as movie adaptions of books go this was excellent. They could have butchered the book like that 1984 Dune movie adaption.

britboy
Aug 12, 2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by asurace
They left out some parts, but as far as movie adaptions of books go this was excellent. They could have butchered the book like that 1984 Dune movie adaption.


True, true.....if the film had followed the book too faithfully, it would have probably be rather boring and long-winded. Still, once you've read the book you can appreciate the more mundane parts.....

or am i a weird brit with an odd sense of taste? (jello, don't even think about replying to that! :D)

bousozoku
Aug 12, 2002, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by asurace
They left out some parts, but as far as movie adaptions of books go this was excellent. They could have butchered the book like that 1984 Dune movie adaption.

Is the Sci-Fi Channel adaptation of Dune more to your liking? That was 3 nights, two hours each, but it's on DVD now.

AlphaTech
Aug 12, 2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by britboy
True, true.....if the film had followed the book too faithfully, it would have probably be rather boring and long-winded. Still, once you've read the book you can appreciate the more mundane parts.....

or am i a weird brit with an odd sense of taste? (jello, don't even think about replying to that! :D)

Since I have read all four books, I will be getting the DVD in November (the special edition).

Considering your tar, britboyo, I wouldn't say that have any [good] taste... :eek: :p :D

Oh, and you ARE one weird brit (even by brit standards of weirdness, you are weird). :p :D :cool:

kiwi_the_iwik
Aug 12, 2002, 05:00 PM
I was 13 when I read my first J.R.R. Tolkien book - The Hobbit. As it was for English, I had to read it. Quite honestly, I enjoyed it. So, it wasn't so far a stretch of the imagination that I would like the Lord Of The Rings trilogy.

Therefore, one holiday a few years back - on a nice secluded Greek Island - I bought "The Fellowship Of The Ring" to read, whilst I lazed wearily in the sun. I managed to get 1/3rd of the way through the book before I chucked it away. I knew that if I read one more passage about how these little furry things sang crappy little songs, danced, drank *****ty little cups of dandelion tea and ate angel cakes, I would have gone on the rampage. To this day, I believe that book is still floating around the Aegean Sea somewhere...

Giving in to the benefit of the doubt, I thought I had to do the book - and the movie - justice. So, my wife and I got a babysitter, and we went to the movies together for the first time in 2 years. Surprisingly, I was looking forward to seeing the movie - the hype was typically over-the-top, and the actors and special effects had been raved about. And after all, it was shot in my home country of New Zealand.

3 hours later, I couldn't help but feel short-changed. Not only did the storyline dictate that I'd have to endure not one more 3-hour movie, but two; but I don't remember New Zealand EVER looking like that (unless you're referring to the Neolithic Period, of course...).

Here's one bloke who can tell Tolkien to shove his book up his dead, mouldy arse.

:D

Durandal7
Aug 12, 2002, 05:00 PM
I liked both versions of Dune. The sci-fi channel version was a bit too long though. The 1984 version had some ridiculous exagerations. Dune just doesn't translate to TV very well.

sneed
Aug 12, 2002, 05:10 PM
The movie, no matter how faithful, doesn't come close to the books (1&2). I hope that the remaining two are better.


BTW. There are technically 8 books; the Hobbit, the 'trilogy' (each book contains two books,) and the Silmarillion. I suppose there could actually be 9 with the Adventures of Tom Bombadil, but I haven't read it, so I'll go with 8.

jadam
Aug 12, 2002, 05:26 PM
i got the DVD, its coo

dnte42
Aug 12, 2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
I was 13 when I read my first J.R.R. Tolkien book - The Hobbit. As it was for English, I had to read it. Quite honestly, I enjoyed it. So, it wasn't so far a stretch of the imagination that I would like the Lord Of The Rings trilogy.

Therefore, one holiday a few years back - on a nice secluded Greek Island - I bought "The Fellowship Of The Ring" to read, whilst I lazed wearily in the sun. I managed to get 1/3rd of the way through the book before I chucked it away. I knew that if I read one more passage about how these little furry things sang crappy little songs, danced, drank *****ty little cups of dandelion tea and ate angel cakes, I would have gone on the rampage. To this day, I believe that book is still floating around the Aegean Sea somewhere...

No small wonder, the first third of the book is VERY slow, and if you are one of those who don't appreciate Tolkien's rich atmosphere and histories and whatnot, the book is easy to put down before you get through 100 pages. However, after that the book picks up a lot more and is easier to read. While I enjoyed both parts, the second part was still more enjoyable. But, Tolkien is just not for everyone.

I gotta say, while I couldn't be happy with anything except a near perfect adaptation of the book, the movie did as good a job as was possible without resorting to a 20-hour television mini-series. If only Elijah Wood hadn't been cast as Frodo. I know Frodo wasn't exactly brave and courageous, but Wood's whining pissed me off. I much prefered the Sam/Pippin type of hobbit-much closer to how I had imagined a hobbit.

cyks
Aug 12, 2002, 06:01 PM
Like many before me, I'll be waiting for Nov 12th for the full version.

Then of course- I'm sure in 3 years when they're all out on DVD there will be a big box set with them all - and even more footage- that we'll have to buy...

AlphaTech
Aug 12, 2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by cyks
Like many before me, I'll be waiting for Nov 12th for the full version.

Then of course- I'm sure in 3 years when they're all out on DVD there will be a big box set with them all - and even more footage- that we'll have to buy...

At least this is better then the latest [per]versions of star wars... That movie blew nasty chuncks from the word go... I won't pay any money to see that one... either at the theatre or at home...

medea
Aug 12, 2002, 06:04 PM
I traded in Pikmin for it

job
Aug 12, 2002, 07:03 PM
I'm not into the whole fantasy medieval world thing, but I'll still buy the 4 disc DVD set.

But I'd much rather watch the new Matrix movies that are coming out next year. :)

jefhatfield
Aug 15, 2002, 12:27 AM
i saw lord of the rings and i liked it...my friend told me to see it over harry potter that weekend

then i recently saw harry potter and i liked that even more

when i first heard about the two children's type movies, i didn't think i could find anything in common with them...if i was a little kid, i suspect i would worship those movies

the original batman tv show was really amazing to me at the time and by the time star wars came out, i was in puberty and much more into dating than watching sci-fi

do kids still collect a lot of lord of the rings stuff? i see some of the merchandise in stores

mmmdreg
Aug 15, 2002, 03:48 AM
Well i already bought the first dvd....

kiwi_the_iwik
Aug 15, 2002, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by hitman
I'm not into the whole fantasy medieval world thing, but I'll still buy the 4 disc DVD set...

Hmmm...

I can see that they'd make lovely matching table coasters for parties.

;)

peterjhill
Aug 15, 2002, 05:51 AM
New Line/Peter Jackson was pretty smart. The current two disc dvd and the november 4 disc set are completely different. They share no common content, except maybe trailers.

This edition is the theatrical release version with all the online mini-documentaries and fox and scifi documentaries.

The Fall edition will only have the extended 30 minutes extra version (which is cool with me, as i will get that one also). Only that one will have (4) commentary tracks.

So I have the first set, and will buy the gift set of the 4 disc set the day it comes out. Now I just need to figure out which gift set.

Captnroger
Aug 15, 2002, 07:59 AM
I guess I'll get flamed for this, but I wasn't nuts about the movie. It was beautifully done with the effects and the settings and all, but I thought it was too long! They could have crammed it down to a couple of hours.

The triology, I LOVED! And I'm not a book person! :D

Draft
Aug 15, 2002, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by hitman
I'm going to wait for the 4 disc DVD box set out just in time for the holiday season. :)

Me too. It's an excellent movie though. My dad had it preordered and it got here last week. Since then, I've seen it about 3 times. Great movie.

Draft

Mr. Anderson
Aug 15, 2002, 09:43 AM
I first read the books back in the late 70s - since then I've read them half a dozen times - recently rereading them last year before going and seeing the movie.

The movie was ok, but it was a little slow at times, which is to be expected because the book wasn't exactly written to be made into a movie. Considering what was accomplished, though, it was great. And I think the other two movies should prove to be a bit more interesting, especially since the Fellowship breaks up into several groups - making the story line more complex.

Personally I can't wait to see how they do Treebeard!

D

jefhatfield
Aug 15, 2002, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet
I first read the books back in the late 70s
D

yes, folks you heard him right, the late 1970s...was that in paperback then or were books cut from stone slabs?

and when he read those back THEN, he was older than some of you posters here!

we have our very own OLD gandalf here!:eek: :p :p ;)

Mr. Anderson
Aug 15, 2002, 09:58 AM
I am by far not the oldest here, and you know that - It was in paperback, btw.

jelloshotsrule
Aug 15, 2002, 10:02 AM
but you're still an old fart, regardless if there are others like you here



so if that's "all" that's going on the 4 dvd set... the 30 extra mins and commentary... well, it doesn't sound like 4 dvds worth to me.

the commentary tracks aren't really that huge. and 30 minutes certainly would fit on 1 dvd with tons of other stuff. sounds more like 2 discs worth to me...


that's cool that they're different though. my bro just bought the current set, knowing there was another coming.


anyone that liked harry potter more.... gross.. that movie was terrible. not even as entertaining as some bad movies like star wars or spiderman

dnte42
Aug 15, 2002, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet
I first read the books back in the late 70s - since then I've read them half a dozen times - recently rereading them last year before going and seeing the movie.

The movie was ok, but it was a little slow at times, which is to be expected because the book wasn't exactly written to be made into a movie. Considering what was accomplished, though, it was great. And I think the other two movies should prove to be a bit more interesting, especially since the Fellowship breaks up into several groups - making the story line more complex.

Personally I can't wait to see how they do Treebeard!

D

Oh man, look out. Multiple storylines. Americans don't take to well to such things anymore :p. That whole attention span thing. I can't believe I haven't gotten more than 50 pages into the Two Towers, I have to get back on track. Of course, it doesn't help that I got sucked into the Wheel of Time series (those books are loooooooonnnnnggggg) but I just can't put it down. I have to say, Robert Jordan can give Tolkien a run for his money.

jefhatfield
Aug 15, 2002, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet
I am by far not the oldest here, and you know that - It was in paperback, btw.

let's make it like a quarterback rating thing taking several factors into account...you biological age, the hours you spend daily on macrumors, and your post count...that would give you a qurterback rating of 100

i have a year on you biologically...he he...but i have been here since summer of 2000 and i am not even at 3,000 posts yet

you are the great joe montana of macrumors, and i will be the long lasting, but much less well-known steve deberg ;)


ps- since you have my name and password since you made my icon and placed it there for me, if i get too out of hand with you, i know you can really jack me:p :p

...and put krossfyter's big image (remember) as my icon;)

Mr. Anderson
Aug 15, 2002, 11:23 AM
I deleted all that info a while back, didn't need it - figured you would change your password anyway.

as for keeping to the thread - I think multiple story lines are something that work very well in America, Pulp Fiction being a good example, and there are a ton of others that have done well - Snatch (but not American) - so on such a well read story, LOTR, the Two Towers might do better than the Fellowship of the Ring.

jefhatfield
Aug 15, 2002, 11:29 AM
snatch was great!

Mr. Anderson
Aug 15, 2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
snatch was great!

that's all you can say? ha - his other movie - Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels is very similar. I'm looking forward to seeing what he comes up with next.

D

jelloshotsrule
Aug 15, 2002, 11:48 AM
lock stock wasn't nearly as good though...in my opinion...

kiwi_the_iwik
Aug 15, 2002, 01:10 PM
You should check out Peter Jackson's early stuff:

Bad Taste
Brain Dead
Meet The Feebles

They're a bit different from LOTR - and definitely done on the cheap. But they are a laugh, if a little gross...

;)

job
Aug 15, 2002, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik


Hmmm...

I can see that they'd make lovely matching table coasters for parties.

;)

Heh. :D

I liked the underlying struggle between good and evil and the whole idea of absolute power corrupts absolute...

And besides it looks a lot better on the shelf than one of those stupid teen gross out movies... ;)

scem0
Aug 17, 2002, 06:34 PM
The books were not that good. The Fel. of the ring movie was a lot better then the book - I suspect the same thing for the two towers. No flames please, i dont want to get burned :D.

Griffindor73
Aug 17, 2002, 07:27 PM
I thought the film was a great adaptation of the book and visually it was amazing.

Some of the extras were a bit dodgy- if you rent it dont bother with the first two documentaries, the are pants, just watch the Sci-Fi channel one. The first documentary is sponsored by some book company and they mention the tie- in book every few minutes, its a really gross example of self promotion!

However, on the preview bit of the Two Towers if you look very carefully you will see a Ti Powerbook being used to generate some of the special effects for Gollum!
(How sad am I to have noticed that!)