New iTMS Localizations Tuesday? [Archive]

MacRumors

Oct 25, 2004, 12:33 PM

Think Secret (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0410briefly2.html) says the the iTunes Music Store should have an October 26th rollout into several European countries, as well as Australia and other venues. Various MacRumors readers report that the iTMS is currently unavailable for browsing from their countries today, suggesting the localizations for them may be just around the corner. Those reports include Switzerland, Austria, Ireland, and Canada, with users being greeted with a new message stating "iTMS is not available in your country yet.

Mudbug

Oct 25, 2004, 12:36 PM

If you live in another country and are being met with this new message, please submit it to us and we'll add it to the list.

Thanks -
Mudbug

AmigoMac

Oct 25, 2004, 12:39 PM

Nice... now I can send gift certificates to other EU countries... I'd like to welcome Austria to the club... go apple!

the_mole1314

Oct 25, 2004, 12:40 PM

I'm at school now and I can't get in the store! AHAHA!!!!

I'm getting the iTMS 400 error.

I think we'll see a new and improved iTMS, like we did between the Mac and PC versions. More options, more everything (subscription service?)

Could we see a subscription service? I mean they are going to announc the 48k accPLUS, so why not?

Doctor Q

Oct 25, 2004, 12:40 PM

Since Apple has told investors that it will expand the Music Store into other countries in October, it's hard to believe that they won't make this move now.

Docrjm

Oct 25, 2004, 12:40 PM

If you live in another country and are being met with this new message, please submit it to us and we'll add it to the list.

Thanks -
Mudbug

In Canada unable to Browse Music Stores and get the message that it is unavailable.
At last it looks as though we can all play, prob by tomorrow. :D

dubbz

Oct 25, 2004, 12:43 PM

I get the "The iTunes Music Store is not available in your country yet." message... When I click on OK, I come to the flag page, and when I click on any flag (tried all four) I'm returned back to the "The iTunes Music Store is not available in your country yet." message.

What's up with that?

(I'm in Norway)

~Shard~

Oct 25, 2004, 12:45 PM

Cool, I submitted this to MacRumors and it actually got posted on Page 1! :cool:

Hopefully this is indeed a sign of things to come - we'll know tomorrow for sure, I'm hoping... <fingers crossed>

HoserHead

Oct 25, 2004, 12:46 PM

My question is: Is anybody who doesn't currently have the iTMS in their country not getting the country confirmation screens that don't let you browse the Store's front page?

isgoed

Oct 25, 2004, 12:47 PM

The iTunes Music Store is not available in your country yet. […]

Dutch hardware site tweakers.net already reported that dutch songs and artists are available for download in the USA/French/German/UK music store.

TopGear

Oct 25, 2004, 12:47 PM

I'm in the Czech Republic, and for the fist time I didn't get an error message when I tried to browse the store. It let me go right in there: no "Not available in your country yet," nothing. It looks like I can purchase songs with no problem.

WTF?

TopGear

Oct 25, 2004, 12:48 PM

My question is: Is anybody who doesn't currently have the iTMS in their country not getting the country confirmation screens that don't let you browse the Store's front page?

Yeah, me, in the Czech Republic.

Super Dave

Oct 25, 2004, 12:52 PM

Heh. I just noticed this, thought I'd give it an hour and check back. I was just about to e-mail MacRumors, when it appeared as the first news story. :-)

Canada!

David :cool:

ferratus

Oct 25, 2004, 12:53 PM

I can't believe Apple would come to Canada. I've only been suffering for a year and a half or so now, which is clearly not enough.

Probably a mistake for Canada. I expect Western Sahara and Yemen to get it before us. I'm not even sure Steve knows what Canada is ?

HoserHead

Oct 25, 2004, 12:53 PM

Yeah, me, in the Czech Republic.
In the past, after a few "Not available in your country yet" screens, I am allowed right in to the front page of the store and it looks like I can buy music - but I can't even sign up for an account since I'm not in the States.

The "not available" screen always reappears after quitting and re-launching iTunes, though. In fact, last night the "not available" screen had stopped appearing for me, but one of my friends mentioned to me that he couldn't get past the confirmation screen, and so I quit and re-launched iTunes and came up against the same "can't say ok" infinite loop of screens as everybody else.

So, if you quit and re-launch, is it the same?

TopGear

Oct 25, 2004, 12:56 PM

So, if you quit and re-launch, is it the same?

Yep. Weird.

TG

Mindfield

Oct 25, 2004, 12:58 PM

Tally ho, Finland here! Not being able to browse the songs and the flags and all.

Toodle pip! :)

williamsonrg

Oct 25, 2004, 01:00 PM

"Other countries are fine, but I want an iTMS specialized for my specific region with the US. For example, the St. Louis store would feature lots of songs by Nelly and country artists. The store in Portland would have angry hippy music and audiobooks by Chuck Pahlanuk. C'mon Apple...." he said tongue-in-cheek.

Brian Haworth

Oct 25, 2004, 01:05 PM

I've consulted with a friend in Austria and a friend in Australia, and the messages they get when trying to visit the iTMS are identical. When they click Okay, they get sent to the four flags. If they click any store, they get sent back to the error message.
However, my Austrian friend can browse the store by using the search box.

HoserHead

Oct 25, 2004, 01:08 PM

I've consulted with a friend in Austria and a friend in Australia, and the messages they get when trying to visit the iTMS are identical. When they click Okay, they get sent to the four flags. Here's where it differs. My Australian friend gets kicked back to the error page if he tries to pick a store, and my Austrian friend doesn't. He is allowed to browse, but probably not purchase.
Now that is interesting. It seems to me that there may be a correlation between what happens after the flag and whether there will be a store for that area tomorrow.

Can anybody from the Netherlands comment on what happens? AppleInsider is reporting that Dutch content has been added to the music store recently, so it seems likely they'll be "in" tomorrow.

onlyafterdark

Oct 25, 2004, 01:09 PM

I just get kicked around in a circle. Come on Apple, Canada needs some love.

vonFinkelstien

Oct 25, 2004, 01:09 PM

Yes, I have the same message (and get kicked back into the message pages after trying a flag).

I will be demonstrating the iTMS to my students at the "Rock High School" (a private high school for young musicians) on Wednesday. They won't quit their file sharing ways, but maybe they'll think iTunes is a cool program and will stop using Media Player.

Iroganai

Oct 25, 2004, 01:09 PM

Brian Haworth

Oct 25, 2004, 01:11 PM

swissmann

Oct 25, 2004, 01:11 PM

If true - welcome to all you newcomers.

iGary

Oct 25, 2004, 01:15 PM

Tomorrow should be a fun day!

World domination. :p

encro

Oct 25, 2004, 01:20 PM

etteguau

Oct 25, 2004, 01:21 PM

Same here in Spain. I get that message too, and can't connect to the store. Last time I tried a couple of weeks ago it displayed the warning but it let me in at least to preview songs.

An interesting thing, by browsing the iTMS via the above "eye tip", i could find some Spanish artists into the store...

Fingers crossed! :rolleyes:

gekko513

Oct 25, 2004, 01:21 PM

Woohoo! I was so afraid that Norway would be left out, but I also get kicked around in circles (that sounds a bit strange ;) ), so maybe there is hope after all!

Ugg

Oct 25, 2004, 01:28 PM

azdude

Oct 25, 2004, 01:29 PM

Nice... Just what we need to turn this sucker exponential! ;) :D

http://www.jerrod.us/domination.jpg

Windowlicker

Oct 25, 2004, 01:31 PM

snahabed

Oct 25, 2004, 01:33 PM

Isn't it just as likely that Apple is either

1. not allowing non-store countries to even PREVIEW anymore, or

2. undergoing an iTunes system upgrade for a select few EU countries, and this upgrade is causing the circle-loops for everyone else

Did I miss why we are assuming that the circle-loop means a store is imminent in that particular country?

gekko513

Oct 25, 2004, 01:36 PM

vonFinkelstien

Oct 25, 2004, 01:37 PM

Why? Because I doubt the iTMS CZ would open before iTMS Sweden. The Czech poster (Ahoj! Jsem hloupy american ;-) ) said that he/she could browse without being redirected by hitting a flag.

Isn't it just as likely that Apple is either

1. not allowing non-store countries to even PREVIEW anymore, or

2. undergoing an iTunes system upgrade for a select few EU countries, and this upgrade is causing the circle-loops for everyone else

Did I miss why we are assuming that the circle-loop means a store is imminent in that particular country? :)

dimboo

Oct 25, 2004, 01:37 PM

Same thing here in Belgium: "iTMS is not available in your country yet. You will be able to browse music and listen to previews, but you won't be able to purchase music. To browse the Music Store in countries where it is currently available, please click Browse" --> click OK > flags > click flag > same message

Does this mean we're in to ?
:)

johnnyjibbs

Oct 25, 2004, 01:39 PM

Well I say about time and welcome new users if this is true! IMO, iTMS UK was worth the wait when it finally arrived in June this year. I wonder if they'll update all the stores by adding this new AACplus stuff as an option when buying tracks if that page2 rumour turns out to be true..

ferratus

Oct 25, 2004, 01:39 PM

Seems like there's a few french canadian artists in there...very few but still. The question is, is this new ? I'm guessing yes since I can't see why they would have added that stuff to the US store.

If so, this is great news. Tomorrow may be a great day. Let me be the first to say heh, it was aboot time ;)

coolfactor

Oct 25, 2004, 01:40 PM

Did I miss why we are assuming that the circle-loop means a store is imminent in that particular country?

I agree. I don't expect iTMS to be in Canada tomorrow. Apple may be working hard, but launching in that many countries is insane!

Does anybody know if other music stores follow a similar set up where there are "different" browsable stores for each country/region like in iTunes? I haven't seen this in the Windows-only stores I've tested.

virividox

Oct 25, 2004, 01:47 PM

no canada!!!

gfer

Oct 25, 2004, 01:50 PM

gekko513

Oct 25, 2004, 01:52 PM

I would like to see some more people not get the circle thing before I really get my hopes up. Where's that Turkish guy who wanted to buy an iMac from the U.S. I doubt Turkey will get the store now, so if he gets the same as the Czech person, then the rest of us are all go :) maybe

vbouret

Oct 25, 2004, 01:55 PM

Look at what happen when I try to click on the French Pop category. An error occurs. This is a canadian artist, so there is hope for iTMS Canada tomorrow.

ferratus

Oct 25, 2004, 01:57 PM

ashish100

Oct 25, 2004, 01:57 PM

I have also noticed that we don't have any access to iTMS anymore here in Australia.

I think we have a right to whine a little - Apple Au has only recently started advertising, and their customer service is not good, and support for things like iPhoto and other international services (Sherlock portals), iTMS, non existent

MacG

Oct 25, 2004, 01:58 PM

If you live in another country and are being met with this new message, please submit it to us and we'll add it to the list.

Thanks -
Mudbug

Errr.. Am I missing something? This is how iTunes has always behaved in Canada. This is nothing new - that error message has always been there (like for months).

gekko513

Oct 25, 2004, 01:59 PM

the_mole1314

Oct 25, 2004, 02:05 PM

Dunno if this was ever posted here, but here's something that might indicate canada is coming soon. Some guy asked Steve and got an answer. (Or so he says at least). That was on october 10.

http://carnets.ixmedia.com/idji/

Steve answeres his emails from an obvious account? I mean, think about it, sjobs@mac.com makes as much sense as bgates@msn.com

srobert

Oct 25, 2004, 02:05 PM

Errr.. Am I missing something? This is how iTunes has always behaved in Canada. This is nothing new - that error message has always been there (like for months).

Yes, it has always been there, but after clicking on OK, it took you to the US store where you could listen to the samples. Not anymore. Now it simply loops between the message and the 4 flags. No way to browse the iTMS.

iGary

Oct 25, 2004, 02:06 PM

I doubt there will be such a large release of stores tomorrow.

Some, yes, but as many as rumored; no.

TorbX

Oct 25, 2004, 02:06 PM

Please, let this be true...

(Norway here)

cedrec

Oct 25, 2004, 02:09 PM

No luck either for Puerto Rico! And we are US territory, it should be easier for them to allow us to purchase songs from their store.

Maybe before the next century!
:confused:

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 02:11 PM

reminds me of when iTunes UK luanched i got that message , go apple

clabbe deinum

Oct 25, 2004, 02:11 PM

broken_keyboard

Oct 25, 2004, 02:13 PM

Wow...if Apple has really secured distribution rights in all those countries then their lawyers deserve a pay raise :)

It will be interesting to see how the prices compare.

network23

Oct 25, 2004, 02:15 PM

Is there any way for someone from one country to buy tracks from another country??? I'm in the U.S. and would love to sample some music from other places, not Americanized versions of same. I was originally so stoked at the thought of the international iTunes Music Store, but it means nothing to me (other than the continuing success of the iPod abroad) when there's all this international music that I am locked off from.

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 02:17 PM

should be standard prices like in europe and UK 99cents and 79p i suspect there might be a price rise for Aus and Canada and there respectively $ like $1.29 or somthing like that .

Hell Good News GO....APPLE

JFreak

Oct 25, 2004, 02:18 PM

i'm really looking forward to finland having the music store, but i fear we will have higher price. let's hope it's 99 cents here also :)

Xilan

Oct 25, 2004, 02:21 PM

And what with Poland? Is there any news about itms in Poland???

kawa_on_mac

Oct 25, 2004, 02:22 PM

I also can't open the store.
I'm in Warsaw Poland with crossed fingers to have iTunes Poland tomorrow :)

That would be great day for me and other digital music lovers in Poland!!

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 02:25 PM

Could be a HUGE apple day tommorow.. Imagine, New Itunes Stores.. New Ipods (Flash Based and 60 gig?) as well as new Emacs? It COULD happen.. Then nothing new till Jan ;P When we get dual core G4 Powerbooks!!!!

Ohhhh I need to go change my underpants... and get a new chair.. ewwwww....

AmigoMac

Oct 25, 2004, 02:25 PM

i'm really looking forward to finland having the music store, but i fear we will have higher price. let's hope it's 99 cents here also :)

I don't see a reason for apple to have a different price in finland... do you?

afinucane

Oct 25, 2004, 02:26 PM

I'm getting the same "loop" here in Ireland. It is possible to get into the store by clicking on Browse on the top right, selecting a Genre/Artist etc.

Here's hoping Ireland will be included tomorrow

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 02:26 PM

another good Tuesday release then lol i think thats most of europe that can access iTunes store or am i missing some there ? watch as its released ,someone will point out this must mean Powerbook G5/G4 Dual core for the next week threads lol :)

bryng

Oct 25, 2004, 02:26 PM

Ooooh ... no luck from New Zealand either ... guess we might be included in a new Australian store ... maybe ... :cool:

Mencius

Oct 25, 2004, 02:27 PM

Fingers crossed for ITMS Australia. I wonder what the price will be here...

My ISP, telstra bigpond, has a music download service, without the advantage of Apple's standardised pricing, sometimes they sell tracks for 70c and often for 99c. That said sometimes it's $1.89 too.

I think a uniform price point for itms of 99c in Aus would be very competitive and succesful.

srobert

Oct 25, 2004, 02:27 PM

should be standard prices like in europe and UK 99cents and 79p i suspect there might be a price rise for Aus and Canada and there respectively $ like $1.29 or something like that .

Not sure it would be a good idea considering that competing services such as Napster and Puretracks already offer 0.99$ songs in canada. (Although they don't work on the mac)

Xilan

Oct 25, 2004, 02:29 PM

oh i'm not alone :)

Is there something about it on apples' site in your countries?
____
miejmy nadzieje ze bedzie juz jutro :)

Maskinmester

Oct 25, 2004, 02:31 PM

The danish version also denys access

Don't really believe it though... a bit too many countries at once

MacinDoc

Oct 25, 2004, 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=HyperX]Could be a HUGE apple day tommorow.. Imagine, New Itunes Stores.. New Ipods (Flash Based and 60 gig?) as well as new Emacs? It COULD happen.. Then nothing new till Jan ;P When we get dual core G4 Powerbooks!!!!QUOTE]
Yes, it looks like multiple new iTunes stores and the U2 special edition iPod tomorrow, but I think the 60 GB and Flash iPods and the eMacs will be announced closer to Christmas. After all, Apple does like to spread its announcements out to stay in the limelight...

gfer

Oct 25, 2004, 02:32 PM

Hey, gfer, do you know if it is likely that Argentina would get the store? It sounds unlikely to me, in which case that means that the circle thing is no indicator at all. My hopes are vaining for a Norwegian store :(

Nope. My brother works for EMI Music Publishing (he's the Latin America Financial Director), and he knows nothing about iTMS in Latin America.

Doctor Q

Oct 25, 2004, 02:32 PM

Wow...if Apple has really secured distribution rights in all those countries then their lawyers deserve a pay raiseIf they announce availability in a number of new countries at once, chances are some had the agreements ironed out before the others, so Apple was actually holding up access in some countries in order to synchronize the releases. But that's to be expected, since announcing a bunch together gives them a chance to do it with a big splash.

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 02:32 PM

So when will they have Itunes China ;P

I guess Itunes Japan will cost like 1,000 yen a song or something? It's at about 107.5 to the dollar now!

Mostly I care about Itunes in the Nederlands.. seeing as I move there this Jan ;P

Common Emacs and new Ipods! YOU CAN DO IT JOBS!

Rave

Oct 25, 2004, 02:33 PM

stcanard

Oct 25, 2004, 02:33 PM

should be standard prices like in europe and UK 99cents and 79p i suspect there might be a price rise for Aus and Canada and there respectively $ like $1.29 or somthing like that

Hmm, I doubt they could get away with a price higher than $0.99 in Canada, otherwise that would be too close to the price of a physical CD (I can buy most CDs for less than $15).

Boy I hope this happens. I would like to buy music again!

Iroganai

Oct 25, 2004, 02:33 PM

Questions to the New Zealander and Puerto Ricans:
So you're not getting the Flag Loop thing?

Thanks in advance

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 02:37 PM

if apple was to release the new Flash based iPod then they could flogg a truck load on the way towards x-mas ppl at work want to buy an iPod ,cos it's an iPod but do not want to spend more then £60-90 so if flashed based and with the new aac codec would be kinda cool as well as the launch of iTunes around the globe they could well and truly clean up at x-mas

pkis

Oct 25, 2004, 02:44 PM

I'm afraid the whole thing isn't an indicator for anything. It seems that login through iTunes is broken for all countries of the planet except for the USA, Germany, the UK and France. As Apple clearly stated earlier on, iTMS will only be launched for around 5 to 10 EU countries in October. It is extremely unlikely that Apple will launch new stores all over the world.

PLUS: iTMS is still up and running - and although I'm not able to enter the store through iTunes (I live in Switzerland), if I go to http://www.apple.com/de/itunes/store/ and click on the "Top100" link in the lower right corner, the store launches just as it did before. And there's NO Swiss content to be found anywhere. I for myself am highly sceptical that Switzerland's going to get a store tomorrow. For Austria and the Netherlands it seems to be looking better: lot's of local content has been popping up over the last couple of days.

iJoe

Oct 25, 2004, 02:44 PM

...they could well and truly clean up at x-mas

Especially if you could find iTunes gift cards in the shops here in the UK...

ckkoay

Oct 25, 2004, 02:45 PM

Just read this news and guess what, loaded up my iTunes to check.

Saw the message:-

"The iTunes Music Store is not available in your country yet...."

Clicked OK then saw the 4 flags.

Clicked on either one of the flags and it took me to the message again.

Does this means that iTMS will be coming to *Malaysia* too? Or are we reading too much into what could turn out to be a temporary maintenance shut-out

Cool!
ceekay

HoserHead

Oct 25, 2004, 02:45 PM

Dunno if this was ever posted here, but here's something that might indicate canada is coming soon. Some guy asked Steve and got an answer. (Or so he says at least). That was on october 10.

http://carnets.ixmedia.com/idji/
E-mailing Eric, the 'some guy' in question, got me a response quickly. In short, the e-mail definitely looks real - it came from within Apple, anyways, and so the chance of it being from Steve Jobs seems pretty good if Eric is not pulling a scam.

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 02:46 PM

Especially if you could find iTunes gift cards in the shops here in the UK...

if they can sell them like they sell phone top up cards they will make a killing in the UK

Mencius

Oct 25, 2004, 02:51 PM

As far as an Australian store goes the Australian Financial review were pretty confident it would happen. I wouldn't expect them to publish something unless they had info a bit more concrete than rumour...

iJoe

Oct 25, 2004, 02:52 PM

if they can sell them like they sell phone top up cards they will make a killing in the UK

Especially with teenagers, and people like me who are sans credit card.

The Ancients

Oct 25, 2004, 02:54 PM

I did notice that the above still gives direct access to the store, after which browsing can still take place.

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 02:57 PM

ajb13

Oct 25, 2004, 02:57 PM

If you click ok, you'll be taken to the flag page.
And, whatever you choose the flag, you'll be back at the same warning page.
You can enter the store by clicking first
the eye button and double-clicking some of the genre, however.

Has anybody actually clearly read the instructions? It states that you are to click the "BROWSE" button, not the "OKAY" button. A rather diferent thing happens. Cleary the site is being updated, but it is no indication of whether a particluar country is getting the service or not. Hell, I'm in South Africa and get the same message.

Clicking the"BROWSE" button allows you to access the store content in "TEXT" only mode. That would be why one of the posters buddies could search the store. Nothing sinister going on, but there is definitely an upgrade taking place right as we speak.

Stella

Oct 25, 2004, 02:58 PM

If "loop effect" is happening in too many countries. IMO, we are all being too optimistic that *all* these countries are going to get itms tomorrow.

There will be disappointed people tomorrow.

In Malaysia this effect is occuring - no offence intended - but - I'm sure there are countries that Apple will support first before Malaysia.

The Ancients

Oct 25, 2004, 03:07 PM

Questions to the New Zealander and Puerto Ricans:
So you're not getting the Flag Loop thing?

Thanks in advance

Yes, we do get the flag loop, as described by others. An interesting side note is that the departing head of Sony NZ stated the iTMS is slated for early next year here:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=3603640

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 03:12 PM

Sharewaredemon

Oct 25, 2004, 03:16 PM

Yeah it seems as though I got my hopes up to soon as well. Well at least there will be a new version of the iTMS tomorrow, and I can keep buying cds of american site with my girlfriends account.

bernhard

Oct 25, 2004, 03:16 PM

Hi,

same "msg -> flags -> mgs -> flags" thing here in Austria,..
can browse the store,.. things like that

I searched a little bit and found a new album of Austrian Artists called "Count Basic" well, lets hope the best,..

PS:
2.1Ghz G5 PowerBook
Yeah, sure,... where did you buy it?

Bye, Bernie

dornoforpyros

Oct 25, 2004, 03:17 PM

ITMS in Canada...bout fricken time!

stcanard

Oct 25, 2004, 03:29 PM

If "loop effect" is happening in too many countries. IMO, we are all being too optimistic that *all* these countries are going to get itms tomorrow.

I flatly refuse to allow logic to enter into this.

fatbarstard

Oct 25, 2004, 03:33 PM

I get the 4 flags... does this mean that shortly I can start giving the old credit card an old fashioned beating??

Now I'll HAVE to get an iPod.... Dear Santa.....

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 03:34 PM

I get the 4 flags... does this mean that shortly I can start giving the old credit card an old fashioned beating??

Now I'll HAVE to get an iPod.... Dear Santa.....

unless it has YOUR flag on there then no , wait till tuesday lol

jrober

Oct 25, 2004, 03:36 PM

Interesting to see Sweden and the Netherlands in the list. Both big economically in Europe but still legal to download music.

In Sweden it seems the law will change early in 2005 but still an awful lot of music avaliable p2p which originats or was ripped in Sweden (Ripping is illegal).

John

Carbonide

Oct 25, 2004, 03:45 PM

The Flag Loop seems to exist for every other country except the 4 original ones already supported by iTMS, so I don't give it any credit as an indication whether iTMS will be available tomorrow in those countries or not.

But for the sake of completeness, please note that it also happens in Luxembourg. :)

For those who arent aware of it, Luxembourg is/will be the head quarter for the pan-european iTunes Music Store. There were even job offerings on mosnter.lu a couple of weeks ago, and I even went so far to check that it is a real adress/building where it will be located. ;)

JDOG_

Oct 25, 2004, 03:49 PM

I forsee a very profitable quarter for Apple if they roll out that many addditional countries. Canada alone man. Go apple!

bigjohn

Oct 25, 2004, 03:50 PM

As Apple clearly stated earlier on, iTMS will only be launched for around 5 to 10 EU countries in October. It is extremely unlikely that Apple will launch new stores all over the world.

Maybe they'll group countries together:
itms northern europe (norway/finland/switzerland/sweden/netherlands)
itms germany (germany/add austria&belgium&poland)
itms canada
itms mexico
itms italy
itms spain

my wish: black 60GB U2 iPod

Stella

Oct 25, 2004, 03:52 PM

I'm being optimistic.

One Day it'll be sitting on my desk.

Hi,
PS:

Yeah, sure,... where did you buy it?

Bye, Bernie

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 03:53 PM

ok so doing some snooping around at apple and typing this in
http://www.apple.com/ca/itunes/store/ brings Apple page not found at top ,and itunes/store in the URL but typing this in

http://www.apple.com.au/itunes/store/ changes the URL to error.html where as the Canada store does not get that , an error at apple or just me ? :rolleyes:

achmafooma

Oct 25, 2004, 03:53 PM

If "loop effect" is happening in too many countries. IMO, we are all being too optimistic that *all* these countries are going to get itms tomorrow.
Forgive me for being a shameless optimist (it's usually not in my nature), but isn't it possible that the record industry -- collectively -- will move away from the piecemeal licensing across borders and arbitrary regions and just, say, license Apple to sell music wherever it can sell music?

Maybe they (or at least a large subset of the industry) finally realized that if somebody in Croatia or Malaysia or Puerto Rico wants to buy music from a band that happens to be, say, German, they should probably be allowed to. There are millions of potential sales being blocked by this archaic licensing system.

Perhaps iTunes is going worldwide tomorrow -- for real. One big store with every track (from the current national stores) and more which is accessible to everybody in every country in the world that has internet access.

One can dream, anyway.

I don't know how the music industry manages to look at the status quo and say, "We're not going to change!" when changing could potentially double, triple, or even quintuple sales for some musicians.

SilentPanda

Oct 25, 2004, 03:58 PM

I sorta hope they just release iTMS:Sudan or something like that and nothing else. Then the 4 people with iTunes in Sudan could rejoice.

corywoolf

Oct 25, 2004, 04:07 PM

i would think they would have u2 play a song that hints that lots more countries can now access the store, maybe "its a beautiful day" song. and there will for shure be a special recording of the song available on the store a couple days after the event. can you buy music if you live in the US but travel to, say, canada in a hotel room and want to buy some music? i would think they couldnt find out where you are, as long as you have a US credit card right? :D :confused: :rolleyes:

Mencius

Oct 25, 2004, 04:09 PM

C'mon it's been October 26th here for HOURS now :D

Why can't it be October 26th in Cupertino already? Such a pity.

viggen9

Oct 25, 2004, 04:11 PM

I'd love to have access to some Swedish tracks from here in USA. When iTMS Sweden opens (hopefully there is one in the works), will I have to have a Swedish bank account in order to download Swedish songs?

Apple must be aware of the fact that people in USA would love to buy tracks from the UK, Germany, France and others... Why would the music companies want to block me from buying a song that is available at an international iTMS, but not the US one? Doesn't it mean more money in their pockets???

bernhard

Oct 25, 2004, 04:12 PM

@corywoolf

that is correct, as long as the payment address is in one of the four countries you can buy music from wherever you want to,..

Bye, Bernie

bernhard

Oct 25, 2004, 04:16 PM

C'mon it's been October 26th here for HOURS now :D

Why can't it be October 26th in Cupertino already? Such a pity.

Well,.. two hours to go @ GMT+1, but Cupertino is @ GMT-8
seems to be a loong night,.. ;)

Bye, Bernie

The Ancients

Oct 25, 2004, 04:16 PM

And yes, Glading has nothing to hide, he does own an iPod and it's bursting with more than 400 albums. "I love iTunes and I love my iPod and I wish we had iTunes in New Zealand because I would be on it every day getting tunes."http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=3603640

o well if Sony bosses( or ex) want itunes i say let em have it and put em out of the misery

It's interesting to see that he is most probably breaking the law, as well. Here in New Zealand it is illegal to make any copies of copyrighted music (even for back up or archival purposes) due to our archaic laws.

dejo

Oct 25, 2004, 04:31 PM

Here's hoping Ireland will be included tomorrow

Since the big Apple / U2 event is tomorrow, it would only be appropriate for Ireland to get the iTMS tomorrow also.

Maybe they should've had one well-known band from each country they're releasing to involved. That would've really been something, eh?

gfer

Oct 25, 2004, 04:35 PM

itms mexico

Confirmed: No iTMS in any Latin America country for tomorrow.

Source: EMI Music Publishing Latin America.

grooove

Oct 25, 2004, 04:38 PM

Now that is interesting. It seems to me that there may be a correlation between what happens after the flag and whether there will be a store for that area tomorrow.

Can anybody from the Netherlands comment on what happens? AppleInsider is reporting that Dutch content has been added to the music store recently, so it seems likely they'll be "in" tomorrow.

It's looped, so you get back to first 'not available etc' again, after the flags window. I can access the different stores by doing a search. First click on say french flag, getting the first window, doing a search results in a french search, etc.
Two days ago i searched and found some of the dutch artists that were supposedly added. Now i cannot find them anymore! Imho this means they are now separating the different contents for the different stores....!

ASP272

Oct 25, 2004, 04:46 PM

Welcome newcomers to the joy of iTMS! Unless you want Metallica or Evanescence, then you're not so joyful. :(

Freg3000

Oct 25, 2004, 04:46 PM

Confirmed: No iTMS in any Latin America country for tomorrow.

Source: EMI Music Publishing Latin America.

Hmmm...it's made it to the front page...but I'm starting to believe that so many countries at once is an impossibility, and that we are getting too hopeful. :(

[Update] - Additional countries as reported by MacRumors.com readers
Poland
New Zealand
Denmark
Mexico

Archaeopteryx

Oct 25, 2004, 04:53 PM

I live in Mexico and have been able to accsess and buy from ITMS for months now.. of course I am useing a US billing address. But the very first time I tried getting into the store from here it gave me the "not currently available in this country" crap... but then again this was MONTHS ago..

nassauone

Oct 25, 2004, 04:55 PM

like how long until poor Canada gets ITMS? I hope this thread reads true!

applekid

Oct 25, 2004, 05:01 PM

I request a rumor roundup when this day is done. Tomorrow sounds great!

agentkow

Oct 25, 2004, 05:03 PM

Welcome newcomers to the joy of iTMS! Unless you want Metallica or Evanescence, then you're not so joyful. :(

Evanescence is right here, actually:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=19067013&selectedItemId=19066991

;)

aafuss1

Oct 25, 2004, 05:03 PM

In Australia the iTunes Music Store also says "Not available in your country yet!" Clciking the button takes you to the 4 flags also. Clicking any of the 4 flags loops back to the previous "Not avail.." message.

Can anybody say aacPlus (HE-AAC)? :)

U2 Launch Today Also.

New QT and New iTunes versions etc all probably going to happen in about 25 hours time too. Of course it's only rumor ;)

Wonderful-if some Asia-Pacific countries get iTMS soon. Perhaps the AFR article might be right about the iTMS launch here after all or Apple's Eddie Cue statement on extra Euro countries getting itms.

Rhuantavan

Oct 25, 2004, 05:09 PM

joeboy_45101

Oct 25, 2004, 05:27 PM

This is all sounds like very good news to me! I'm glad that it looks like Canada will finally be able to join the club, it's about time Apple got off their asses for our friends up North. My biggest hope for tomorrow is iTunes 5 and iPod software updates. I would like to see iTunes start supporting 24-bit audio, I have a few CD's that could take advantage of that, and would like to see the Apple engineers tweak the AAC encoder a bit.

Does anybody know if the presentation tomorrow will be broadcast on the internet? Anybody else notice that Apple is not broadcasting events live anymore, I wonder what has caused this to happen?

davemack

Oct 25, 2004, 05:29 PM

Just noticed that all the images in the iTMS are not working...

Just getting an image of a broken paperclip ALL the time

joeboy_45101

Oct 25, 2004, 05:32 PM

Evanescence is right here, actually:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=19067013&selectedItemId=19066991

;)

Ah, just what I was looking for. Thanks. :p

belair

Oct 25, 2004, 05:41 PM

Luxembourg, host of itunes Europe music store, oficially awaits the opening of the Benelux store with great anticipation.

( I can't wait :eek: )

joeboy_45101

Oct 25, 2004, 05:41 PM

Hi,

Just want to let you know that I get the "not available yet" -> flags -> "not availably yet" loop too. I am located in Slovenia.

I don't believe we'll be getting the iTMS here, but... who knows :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, you won't be recieving ITMS tomorrow. But your friendly neighbor Molvania will, but unfortunely nobody there owns a computer and only one artist will be available, Spatzal!. Spatzal!, Two girls, one guy and a transvestite make up Molvania's most successful pop music act. Spatzal! was able to take fifth place in the 1998 Eurovision Song Contest with their catchy dance tune 'Vlarsh ei Czolom' ('Your Boogy I am Shaking').

Never heard of Molvania? Check it out here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1585676195/qid=1098740415/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/002-6323219-7523251?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

manu chao

Oct 25, 2004, 05:42 PM

Maybe they'll group countries together:
itms northern europe (norway/finland/switzerland/sweden/netherlands)
itms germany (germany/add austria&belgium&poland)
itms canada
itms mexico
itms italy
itms spain

Switzerland is as much a part of Northern Europe as Missouri is on the West Coast and Belgium and Poland are not any more related to Germany than the Netherlands or the Czech Republic in that all are neighbours of Germany, although Belgium has a small German speaking minority and Poland a really tiny one.

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 05:45 PM

Maybe they'll group countries together:
itms northern europe (norway/finland/switzerland/sweden/netherlands)
itms germany (germany/add austria&belgium&poland)
itms canada
itms mexico
itms italy
itms spain

my wish: black 60GB U2 iPod

OMG sorry but your wrong..

1) Northern Europe? You cannot group those countries together. MOST ARE NOT EVEN IN THE EU! Duh ;P Thats like linking Mexcio and the USA together... except it's more acurate because of Nafta!

2) Oh yeah cause we all know the belgian speak perfect GERMAN.. they speak dutch in half the country and french in the other half.. with a little bit of flemmish in there. The SWISS do speak german though.. A bastardized form.. but german none the less.

So your groups make NO sence at all.. Maybe we should group MEXICO and CANADA ALIKE if we do those groupings (rolls eyes) And dont expect a 60 gig U2 Ipod before a 60 gig regular one ;P

Sorry I get upset when people in the USA have no CLUE about europe!

GrannySmith_G5

Oct 25, 2004, 05:47 PM

Switzerland is as much a part of Northern Europe as Missouri is on the West Coast and Belgium and Poland are not any more related to Germany than the Netherlands or the Czech Republic in that all are neighbours of Germany, although Belgium has a small German speaking minority and Poland a really tiny one.

Thanks for clearing that up. Very graceful sentence.

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 05:47 PM

Oh man we just double spanked him.. where is the Geneva Convention on that one ;P Someone call the Red Cross.. Oh never mind they are busy swapping files with Germany :P LOL!

advocate

Oct 25, 2004, 05:56 PM

Unless I'm very much mistaken, the "not available in your country" message is the one that's been showing up since who knows when..

Porchland

Oct 25, 2004, 05:58 PM

So, I'm thinking that this might be a global launch of iTunes with all offerings being available worldwide instead of a separate store for each country. Man, that would be awesome, there's so much euro music that I would buy in a flash if it was available here in the US. Also, could this be the reason why some of the European independent labels hadn't yet showed up in iTMS?

Don't confuse artists with locations. Digital music distribution rights are ridiculously complicated, and it's possible that Apple may own the right to distribute a particular album in one country but not in another.

I don't think we'll see an everything-everywhere model for a while.

kenkooler

Oct 25, 2004, 06:02 PM

I seriously doubt Apple can release the iTMS in so many countries at once...

By the way, I get the same error (not available->flags->not available loop)

joeboy_45101

Oct 25, 2004, 06:02 PM

OMG sorry but your wrong..

1) Northern Europe? You cannot group those countries together. MOST ARE NOT EVEN IN THE EU! Duh ;P Thats like linking Mexcio and the USA together... except it's more acurate because of Nafta!

2) Oh yeah cause we all know the belgian speak perfect GERMAN.. they speak dutch in half the country and french in the other half.. with a little bit of flemmish in there. The SWISS do speak german though.. A bastardized form.. but german none the less.

So your groups make NO sence at all.. Maybe we should group MEXICO and CANADA ALIKE if we do those groupings (rolls eyes) And dont expect a 60 gig U2 Ipod before a 60 gig regular one ;P

Sorry I get upset when people in the USA have no CLUE about europe!

Blame it on our wonderful world-class education system. Hell, most of our high school students could not even point out on a map where the United States was in a recent test.

manu chao

Oct 25, 2004, 06:04 PM

Unless I'm very much mistaken, the "not available in your country" message is the one that's been showing up since who knows when..

Just that it seems they've added the word 'yet' to it, and that you cannot even browse anymore after selecting a flag. But this 'yet' it not very credible in places like Malaysia, Croatia and Slowenia (although the latter as part of the EU could get it, if Poland gets it as well, being quite a bit richer than Poland).

manu chao

Oct 25, 2004, 06:09 PM

Blame it on our wonderful world-class education system. Hell, most of our high school students could not even point out on a map where the United States was in a recent test.

Although it is not exactly the same, most Europeans would have trouble naming more than maybe a dozen U.S. states.

There is nothing wrong with ignorance, as long as you aware of it.

ijimk

Oct 25, 2004, 06:16 PM

it is good to see other parts of the world are being welcomed into itunes. Go apple let others see the light :)

switch2mac

Oct 25, 2004, 06:18 PM

OMG sorry but your wrong..

2) Oh yeah cause we all know the belgian speak perfect GERMAN.. they speak dutch in half the country and french in the other half.. with a little bit of flemmish in there. The SWISS do speak german though.. A bastardized form.. but german none the less.

Correction, I am a Belgian, this is our situation:
There are 3 official languages: Dutch ('Nederlands'),French ('Français') and German ('Deutch'). 60% speaks Dutch, 40% speaks French and a minority speaks German (they are included in the percentage of French)

The Flemmisch somebody in this forum discussed is actually a synonym for Dutch, but it is possibly politically loaded: compare it to 'Australian': 'Australian' is actually English, but some wille say Australian because they like to stress the Australian Independence. Some say Flemmish because they like to stress that our Dutch is 'different' from the Dutch spoken in the Netherlands.
But actually it is the same language, with some regional variation in vocabulary, some words that people in the Netherlands say, we in Belgium would never use. And a little difference in pronunciation, but no big deal.

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 06:19 PM

ok let's just hope it all come true , when is the U2/iPod thing due to start ? UK time please :

aswitcher

Oct 25, 2004, 06:20 PM

ok let's just hope it all come true , when is the U2/iPod thing due to start ? UK time please :

And OZ please ...

switch2mac

Oct 25, 2004, 06:24 PM

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 06:24 PM

Correction, I am a Belgian, this is our situation:
There are 3 official languages: Dutch ('Nederlands'),French ('Français') and German ('Deutch'). 60% speaks Dutch, 40% speaks French and a minority speaks German (they are included in the percentage of French)

The Flemmisch somebody in this forum discussed is actually a synonym for Dutch, but it is possibly politically loaded: compare it to 'Australian': 'Australian' is actually English, but some wille say Australian because they like to stress the Australian Independence. Some say Flemmish because they like to stress that our Dutch is 'different' from the Dutch spoken in the Netherlands.
But actually it is the same language, with some regional variation in vocabulary, some words that people in the Netherlands say, we in Belgium would never use. And a little difference in pronunciation, but no big deal.

I just got spanked ;P LOL! Well my belgian friend only speaks English, Dutch, and French! He doesn't speak a lick of german! Man the belgians are wierd.. Friendly but wierd ;) Don't Argue with a Belgian about who has better chocolete or who invented French Fries ;P

Me I am still getting use to Hamster Days at the local Wienkle ;P (I probably got that SOOO wrong.. man I am so ignornant.. but I will be taking dutch lessons SOON!)

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 06:26 PM

Blame it on our wonderful world-class education system. Hell, most of our high school students could not even point out on a map where the United States was in a recent test.

I cam from that education system.. and I can get most of it correct.. but dont ask me those little African countries or break away soviet states.. cause BAM I got's NO CLUE! I dunno a Lithuania from a ummmm (insert random soviet breakaway here). Now a Zimbabwa from a ummm (insert random african country here.. not including south africa or kenya.. cause thats too god damn easy!)

nek

Oct 25, 2004, 06:30 PM

At first I just got the "not available in your country yet" message, then the 4 flags, and I could browse using the browse button. But after trying the flags again I was able to access the German store. And through the German store I switched to each of the other 3 stores.

So, although I live in Canada I have access to all 4 current iTunes stores. But since I don't have an address in any of those countries I can't buy anything. Its just the same as it was before except I can access 4 stores instead of just US iTMS.

gfer

Oct 25, 2004, 06:30 PM

Don't confuse artists with locations. Digital music distribution rights are ridiculously complicated, and it's possible that Apple may own the right to distribute a particular album in one country but not in another.

I don't think we'll see an everything-everywhere model for a while.

You can bet we won't see an everything-everywhere model for a LONG time.

Not only digital distribution is complicated. The big problem is the copyright registration: a song can be registered under different Music Publishing houses (BMG Music Publishing, EMI Music Publishing, Sony/ATV... see here (http://www.mpa.org/agency/publishers.html)) in different countries.

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 06:31 PM

10 am pacific time is what 6pm in the UK so that will be what 03.00 am Sydney time i think late night for you Aus members

switch2mac

Oct 25, 2004, 06:34 PM

I just got spanked ;P LOL! Well my belgian friend only speaks English, Dutch, and French! He doesn't speak a lick of german! Man the belgians are wierd.. Friendly but wierd ;) Don't Argue with a Belgian about who has better chocolete or who invented French Fries ;P

Me I am still getting use to Hamster Days at the local Wienkle ;P (I probably got that SOOO wrong.. man I am so ignornant.. but I will be taking dutch lessons SOON!)

I'd never spank anybody :-)
anyway, are your from the Netherlands?
And, our best export product is our music... (not the chocolate (went to Swiss), the French Fries are Belgian (want a recipy, I'll give it to you) and our beer, OK, our beer is another decent export product)

And I do not speak German, although I had some German at school, but I wouldn't be able to conduct a conversation in it. But I would probably understand what they would talk about since there are quite some similarities with Dutch, English, and French.

And what is Wienkle?

Your Belgian Friend

mbamac

Oct 25, 2004, 06:34 PM

simply:

no poland, no czech, maybe no scandinavianand iceland, maybe no new zeland and mexico. i'm thinking about itms in netherlands, belgium, italy and spain.

agentkow

Oct 25, 2004, 06:35 PM

So, although I live in Canada I have access to all 4 current iTunes stores. But since I don't have an address in any of those countries I can't buy anything. Its just the same as it was before except I can access 4 stores instead of just US iTMS.

We could always do that, just usually from within the store at the top left under "switch stores" upon which it would go to the same page of flags.

manu chao

Oct 25, 2004, 06:41 PM

on the Dutch site macosx.nl I found another way to check whether or not you will get itms in the very near future:

go to your local apple site,
go to the online store,
go to the ipod.

Check if you get specifications that you can browse and download music from the itunes music story.

It seems that both in the Netherlands and in Belgium, the text has been adapted,

in Dutch:
Muziekwinkel bij de hand
De iPod vormt een ijzersterk duo met iTunes, waarmee je eenvoudig je digitale-muziekcollectie kunt samenstellen en beheren. En dankzij de geïntegreerde iTunes Music Store kun je door honderdduizenden nummers en gesproken boeken bladeren totdat je precies hebt gevonden wat je zoekt."

It says that "thanks to the integrated Itunes Music Story you can browse through hundreds of thousands of tracks and audiobooks until you have found exactly what you were looking for."

Maybe this is a clue that the store is arriving: check it out and let us know!
How is this in your store?

This text is there in the Swiss, Italian, Irish, Danish, Swedish, Austrian, Finnish, Spanish, Portuguese, Belgium and Japanese(!) store, but not in the Canadian and Australian one. It also not present in the Norvegian, Icelandic (Icelandian?), Greek, Czech and Polish store, but they have much less text anyway on that page, maybe they did not translate all of it. (Interestingly, the Finnish and Portuguese store is in English, although the main Apple web page is in Finnish/Portuguese.)
Luxemburg does not seem to have an Apple web page.

It looks like most if not all of the still iTMS-less EU-15 countries will get access (plus Switzerland and Japan). Sorry for Canada and Australia. Inconclusive on the new EU members like Poland and smaller Non-EU countries like Norway.

payamr

Oct 25, 2004, 06:41 PM

For some reason iTMS is working for me again, could this just be a technical problem?

Canada!

atreju

Oct 25, 2004, 06:46 PM

For me it still doesn't work... ITALY! :D

Bear

Oct 25, 2004, 06:46 PM

liketom

Oct 25, 2004, 06:46 PM

For some reason iTMS is working for me again, could this just be a technical problem?

Canada!

i doubt it , this is Apple's big chance to take control over the download market once and for all, and get rid of all that rubbish competition

people will remember 2004 - iPods and iTunes Music Store

The Ancients

Oct 25, 2004, 06:46 PM

For some reason iTMS is working for me again, could this just be a technical problem?

Canada!

It was. Apple switched the auto country detect back over to Akamai Saturday afternoon, and this appears to be the cause of the issue. It should all be fixed now.

Edit: caching may still be causing some issues for various people.

aswitcher

Oct 25, 2004, 06:55 PM

10 am pacific time is what 6pm in the UK so that will be what 03.00 am Sydney time i think late night for you Aus members

Mmm...3am on a work night for a possible store opening...mmm

coattaker

Oct 25, 2004, 07:02 PM

This text is there in the Swiss, Austrian, Finnish, Spanish and Belgium store, but not in the Canadian and Australian one.

I have not checked all the still iTMS-less EU-15 countries, but it looks like most if not all of them will get access (plus Switzerland). Sorry for Canada and Australia.

NoooooOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

I want my iTMS :(

Will you be staying up aswitcher? Looks like it's a 3am night for me...

kaylee

Oct 25, 2004, 07:05 PM

No message in AU store -> ipod about being able to browse itms for songs/audiobooks.
However there was this:

iPod Etiquette.

Remove both earbuds:
During a job interview
Taking your driver’s test
When your sweetie calls

Remove one earbud:
Listening for your flight
Buying groceries
When a coworker calls

Leave ’em in:
Visiting the inlaws
At the laundromat
When your boss calls

rayzor

Oct 25, 2004, 07:13 PM

Just tried it again here in Australia.
It all seems to be back to normal.

dubbz

Oct 25, 2004, 07:13 PM

Back to normal. I'm able to view the store now. Oh, well.

MacMarino

Oct 25, 2004, 07:14 PM

Has anyone else noticed that the 'warning' page and then the flag page, loop without stopping, thus forming an 'Infinite Loop', just like Apples address in Cupertino. Maybe the people at Apple are just having a bit of fun with all of us :p

macmarino :)

MiquelCo

Oct 25, 2004, 07:18 PM

Acording to the messages on the Apple Store, iTMS will be in Japan too!!, but not in Norge.
Most of eurpean countries will launch tomorrow. No!! its today!!! (CET)

bigjohn

Oct 25, 2004, 07:22 PM

Switzerland is as much a part of Northern Europe as Missouri is on the West Coast and Belgium and Poland are not any more related to Germany than the Netherlands or the Czech Republic in that all are neighbours of Germany, although Belgium has a small German speaking minority and Poland a really tiny one.

just adding another thought to the mix, not like there could really be 300 different itunes music stores to satisfy every little country out there...

JoeAlamaiz

Oct 25, 2004, 07:27 PM

agentkow

Oct 25, 2004, 07:41 PM

I hate to be a party pooper, but to me it's been always like this, I live in Mexico and i've always seen the country warning prior to entering (and browsing) the US ITMS.

And I say this because the update on the news says that tipsters reported this message in iTunes Mexico. Its always been like this, unless you guys see something different.

Don't worry about being the party pooper, you're not, you just haven't read the whole article or any of the other responses.

macmumma

Oct 25, 2004, 07:44 PM

I hate to be a party pooper, but to me it's been always like this, I live in Mexico and i've always seen the country warning prior to entering (and browsing) the US ITMS.

And I say this because the update on the news says that tipsters reported this message in iTunes Mexico. Its always been like this, unless you guys see something different.

Perhaps I've missed all the action, but Australia has nothing different to accessing iTMS... Same warning, same geographical credit card restrictions, etc.

kenkooler

Oct 25, 2004, 07:48 PM

I have access again to the music store. It seems like there were technical problems before.

manu chao

Oct 25, 2004, 07:51 PM

This text is there in the Swiss, Italian, Irish, Danish, Swedish, Austrian, Finnish, Spanish, Portuguese, Belgium and Japanese(!) store, but not in the Canadian and Australian one. It also not present in the Norvegian, Icelandic (Icelandian?), Greek, Czech and Polish store, but they have much less text anyway on that page, maybe they did not translate all of it. (Interestingly, the Finnish and Portuguese store is in English, although the main Apple web page is in Finnish/Portuguese.)
Luxemburg does not seem to have an Apple web page.

It looks like most if not all of the still iTMS-less EU-15 countries will get access (plus Switzerland and Japan). Sorry for Canada and Australia. Inconclusive on the new EU members like Poland and smaller Non-EU countries like Norway.

Sorry for quoting myself, but I've updated my post several times and thought all the time I'm still the last post while I was only the last post on the sixth page...

the_mole1314

Oct 25, 2004, 07:51 PM

MiquelCo

Oct 25, 2004, 07:54 PM

At this moment in Spain, I can access to the store with the same country warning and but clicking ok I enter the store as two days ago.
Now the message says:
The iTunes Music Store its not avaliable in your country yet. You will be able to browse music, listen to previews, but you wont be able to purchase music.
This alert before was telling something on the countries with store, nothing on it now,
And also dont apears the page with the 4 flags.

~Shard~

Oct 25, 2004, 07:59 PM

I'm not even sure Steve knows what Canada is ?

I think Steve is probably smarter than some Americans I've run into who think that Canada is simply that little strip of land at the top of their TV weather maps... ;)

~Shard~

Oct 25, 2004, 08:03 PM

Errr.. Am I missing something? This is how iTunes has always behaved in Canada. This is nothing new - that error message has always been there (like for months).

The initial error message always appeared, but not like this - now Canadians et al. are not able to browse iTMS at all. Before, we would always get this error message and then still be able to proceed into iTMS to at least browse, preview, etc. without being able to buy.

joeboy_45101

Oct 25, 2004, 08:15 PM

If I have to put money on it, with all this new info, I bet.....

-iTunes 5.0 with Motorolla intergration

-aacPlus announcement, Apple commitment to updating every song in the iTMS to aacPlus.

-Pepsi + iTunes v2.0 announcement- iPod giveaways too?

-U2 iPod

-European Union iTMS launch

-Apple official statment on Canada and Austiralia by end of the year

One More Thing.....

-60gig Normal iPod. Color screen at MacWorld San Fran.

I hope you're right about aacPlus, but it will probably only be available for 4G iPods and iPod Minis. LossLess audio at 128k would be insanely great but I don't know what Apple would do about the music people have already downloaded from the iTMS, unless there is going to be some kind of file upgrade feature.

sjl

Oct 25, 2004, 08:22 PM

FIIIIIINNLAAAND!! OH PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Joulupukki (the original Santa Claus hehe) wants iTMS here so that he can listen to good music on his ipod when travelling to deliver xmas presents to kids :)
You're so near to Russia, so far from Japan; Quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam ...

*ahem*

Sorry.

I'll believe that Apple's releasing the iTMS in Australia when I see it. Not before.

manu chao

Oct 25, 2004, 08:26 PM

LossLess audio at 128k would be insanely great but I don't know what Apple would do about the music people have already downloaded from the iTMS,

LossLess audio at 128k, yeah I always wanted to buy a kilogramm of tomatos that only weighs 200 gramm...

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 08:38 PM

I'd never spank anybody :-)
anyway, are your from the Netherlands?
And, our best export product is our music... (not the chocolate (went to Swiss), the French Fries are Belgian (want a recipy, I'll give it to you) and our beer, OK, our beer is another decent export product)

And I do not speak German, although I had some German at school, but I wouldn't be able to conduct a conversation in it. But I would probably understand what they would talk about since there are quite some similarities with Dutch, English, and French.

And what is Wienkle?

Your Belgian Friend

I will be living in Hengelo in Jan... So I will be dutch ;P well in 5 years if I pass my teast I will be dutch ;) LOL! Wish me luck!!!!

Always looking for new fry recipy ;) And I like Hoegarden very much ;P But I am required to drink Hieniken ;P LOL!!!!!

Your Dutch Friend!

P.S. I don't remember the store name I will look it up!

Freg3000

Oct 25, 2004, 08:48 PM

-Pepsi + iTunes v2.0 announcement- iPod giveaways too?

Yes please.

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/07/20040728150017.shtml

cotteez

Oct 25, 2004, 09:00 PM

Did any other Aussies notice that Pete Murray is listed on the opening page of iTMS UK store. I think it's gonna happen guys.

MacinDoc

Oct 25, 2004, 09:06 PM

The initial error message always appeared, but not like this - now Canadians et al. are not able to browse iTMS at all. Before, we would always get this error message and then still be able to proceed into iTMS to at least browse, preview, etc. without being able to buy.
I can still browse iTMS from Canada - does this mean no iTMS Canada tomorrow?

supermusli

Oct 25, 2004, 09:07 PM

In Sweden I can now again browse the store without getting the loop. Also, the swedish band The Cardigans are available, and I dont think they´ve been in the store before (altough they are internationally succesful).

nagromme

Oct 25, 2004, 09:22 PM

It would be cool if ALL of those countries appeared tomorrow. That's probably wishing for too much, but we'll see. (Japan? I thought the market barriers there sounded insurmountable any time soon.)

I'm starting to wonder if tomorrow might not have any iPod news except the U2 model. I was hoping to be able to buy a 60 GB iPod, but maybe that's not happening (yet). I can hope though :)

saltmaster

Oct 25, 2004, 09:26 PM

In regards to iTunes New Zealand the former head of Sony New Zealand was quoted in the Saturday/Monday newspaper.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?thesection=technology&thesubsection=&storyID=3603786

And yes, Glading has nothing to hide, he does own an iPod and it's bursting with more than 400 albums. "I love iTunes and I love my iPod and I wish we had iTunes in New Zealand because I would be on it every day getting tunes."

iTunes is due to be available in New Zealand early next year. But Glading says the legitimate downloading model has taken far too long to come out.

"The record companies were slow to get the legitimate download model up and running. The irony is it took something like Apple [with iTunes] to pull it together."

.....

One thing's for sure, the introduction of iTunes next year will keep Glading and his trusty iPod busy and bopping.

fartheststar

Oct 25, 2004, 09:29 PM

I can still browse iTMS from Canada - does this mean no iTMS Canada tomorrow?

It's going to happen. I'm in Canada. When I click on "buy song" now, instead of "not available in your country", it lets me get all the way to the end, but then my "country" is not listed. Tomorrow, I expect to wake up and our country will be selectable.

Edit: LOL: I found Corey Hart and the Toronto Symphony Orchestra on there. Must be happening. No Glass Tiger though.... too bad :p

~Shard~

Oct 25, 2004, 09:39 PM

I can still browse iTMS from Canada - does this mean no iTMS Canada tomorrow?

Almost everyone now appears to be able to browse the store again without getting the loop, so I don't think this changes things. Personally, I think Apple has made the necessary changes it needs to, and tomorrow, we'll be able to buy music on iTMS Canada!

Plus, the "buy now" option leads you through different screens than it used to, and that is definitely different - instead of just giving an "error" message, it lets you go all the way to the end before saying you can't buy a song.

broken_keyboard

Oct 25, 2004, 09:48 PM

This link shows which countries have the most computers. This is what Apple should be using to decide where to put iTunes...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/med_per_com

Nermal

Oct 25, 2004, 09:55 PM

Also, the swedish band The Cardigans are available, and I dont think they´ve been in the store before (altough they are internationally succesful).

Sorry, they've been there for ages - I've even bought one of their songs (thanks to a US billing address).

abc123

Oct 25, 2004, 09:57 PM

there is some australian stuff in the store today

killing heidi and bardot :eek: spiderbait

maybe these have been there a while though, i don't know

Stella

Oct 25, 2004, 09:58 PM

Its always been like that, so no indication of a Canadian iTMS tomorrow.

Also Canadian material like that has been on the us Store for quite a while now... I did a search for Toronto for no good reason a few months ago.

It's going to happen. I'm in Canada. When I click on "buy song" now, instead of "not available in your country", it lets me get all the way to the end, but then my "country" is not listed. Tomorrow, I expect to wake up and our country will be selectable.

Edit: LOL: I found Corey Hart and the Toronto Symphony Orchestra on there. Must be happening. No Glass Tiger though.... too bad :p

Iroganai

Oct 25, 2004, 10:40 PM

This text is there in the Swiss, Italian, Irish, Danish, Swedish, Austrian, Finnish, Spanish, Portuguese, Belgium and Japanese(!) store,

In the Japanese store there is indeed the iTunes icon in that page.
The text however only states iTunes is a very good digital Jukebox
and there's no mention of iTMS.

I'm not sure the iTunes icon was there or not some days ago.

diego

Oct 25, 2004, 10:44 PM

Look at this pic I found on akamai, I guess the wait is finally over.

Stella

Oct 25, 2004, 10:54 PM

How do you get to "akamai"?

ct77

Oct 25, 2004, 10:54 PM

Look at this pic I found on akamai, I guess the wait is finally over.

How about an actual link to that pic? I smell a Photoshop doctoring job... :cool:

knuxed

Oct 25, 2004, 10:57 PM

why do i get the same message in Malaysia too

unsigned

Oct 25, 2004, 10:58 PM

Look at this pic I found on akamai, I guess the wait is finally over.]

awesome, what were your methods?

BTW, obviously not photoshopped. Have we become that cynical?

zwida

Oct 25, 2004, 11:01 PM

Look at this pic I found on akamai, I guess the wait is finally over.

Not a bad fake for a fake. ;)

ct77

Oct 25, 2004, 11:02 PM

]

awesome, what were your methods?

BTW, obviously not photoshopped. Have we become that cynical?

Yes, we have. Besides, how often do you see Apple writing text! with! exclamation! marks! everywhere! ... as in the image purportedly taken from the Akamai servers.

Stella

Oct 25, 2004, 11:04 PM

Yes, we have. Besides, how often do you see Apple writing text! with! exclamation! marks! everywhere! ... as in the image purportedly taken from the Akamai servers.

I would love this to be true, but without an URL, he's yanking our chains... too many ***** stirers around these days!! :-)

HoserHead

Oct 25, 2004, 11:04 PM

]
BTW, obviously not photoshopped. Have we become that cynical?
I don't think there's really anything that obvious about it one way or the other. As for being cynical - as a Canadian iTunes-user-wannabe, I can say "Yes, definitely." There have been enough false rumours about an iTMS Canada that I have only a faint glimmer of hope in my heart -- I don't really believe that it'll be coming tomorrow, but I think I'll still be a little bit disappointed when it doesn't.

~Shard~

Oct 25, 2004, 11:05 PM

Look at this pic I found on akamai, I guess the wait is finally over.

Link please.

knuxed

Oct 25, 2004, 11:07 PM

do u know if any asian countries are involved,As I am gettin the same message in Itunes as all the other countries listed on the main page.If it comes to Malaysia,hail the world

Yvan256

Oct 25, 2004, 11:07 PM

My question is: Is anybody who doesn't currently have the iTMS in their country not getting the country confirmation screens that don't let you browse the Store's front page?

doesn't currently... not getting... don't let you browse...

I'm sorry, but I can't follow your triple negatives here. ;)

Stella

Oct 25, 2004, 11:09 PM

Yes, we have. Besides, how often do you see Apple writing text! with! exclamation! marks! everywhere! ... as in the image purportedly taken from the Akamai servers.

TheRegister http://www.theregister.com does! this! with! all! its! yahoo! stories!

It! is! very! annoying!

!

Yvan256

Oct 25, 2004, 11:09 PM

HoserHead

Oct 25, 2004, 11:09 PM

doesn't currently... not getting... don't let you browse...

I'm sorry, but I can't follow your triple negatives here. ;)
Yeah, that could have used some revision. :) What can I say, it was early in the morning and I was being too smart for my own good.

Yvan256

Oct 25, 2004, 11:12 PM

In japan, I get the message as the jpg file shows.

If you click ok, you'll be taken to the flag page.
And, whatever you choose the flag, you'll be back at the same warning page.
You can enter the store by clicking first
the eye button and double-clicking some of the genre, however.

I do hope they'll drop countries "barriers" and allow us to purchase music from any country (I'd like to buy a few J-Pop songs, but at the current import CD prices of 40~60$CAN, this is ridiculous).

Links

Oct 25, 2004, 11:13 PM

Yes, we have. Besides, how often do you see Apple writing text! with! exclamation! marks! everywhere! ... as in the image purportedly taken from the Akamai servers.
Have to agree with you on the exclamation mark.
Never, ever seen Apple use one!

HyperX

Oct 25, 2004, 11:16 PM

BAD Fake..

Apple would NEVER do Belgium before Nederlands!

Duh ;P

If your going to Put Belgium on the list (and Denmark) you better include the nederlands in you fake ;)

rendezvouscp

Oct 25, 2004, 11:16 PM

Maybe I'm ignorant but if you go to http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/download/ right now, the title for the page is Apple (UK and Ireland). It lists buying music from the iTMS. Is Ireland open yet? Is this a leak?
-Chase

Yvan256

Oct 25, 2004, 11:17 PM

Look at what happen when I try to click on the French Pop category. An error occurs. This is a canadian artist, so there is hope for iTMS Canada tomorrow.

Well, that confirms ITMS Canada! :)
(Why would they have added french Canadian content if not for us)

Next step: drop the fake barriers between countries! Free the music!

joeyboy76

Oct 25, 2004, 11:20 PM

sigh....

so i guess iTMS ASEAN
(Singapore, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei,Thailand etc) will still be a long way off........

firefly007

Oct 25, 2004, 11:37 PM

well it looks like we can get in now Canada just browse atleast

I never noticed this before but you can buy collection of songs on an album as a "Work" mainly for classical - is this new?

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=13317977

diego

Oct 25, 2004, 11:38 PM

abc123

Oct 25, 2004, 11:40 PM

what time are these announcements being made?
i might consider staying awake tonight or setting the alarm because i want these itunes rumors to be true so badly

Yvan256

Oct 25, 2004, 11:41 PM

Evanescence is right here, actually:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=19067013&selectedItemId=19066991

;)

How do you guys make those damn links work? I'm on Opera 7.54/Windows, and all I get is an "address type not supported" error...?!

hokka

Oct 25, 2004, 11:44 PM

You almost had me, but we'll see... fingers crossed for Oz :rolleyes:

Yvan256

Oct 25, 2004, 11:45 PM

There is nothing wrong with ignorance, as long as you aware of it.

If you are aware of your ignorance, you're not really that ignorant since you know that you're ignorant. But if you do know, then... er... my head hurts.

aafuss1

Oct 25, 2004, 11:53 PM

I jusy saw that image-I wonder if Australia's iTMS is up soon-lucky for us and New Zealanders will have to wait?

HoserHead

Oct 25, 2004, 11:54 PM

what time are these announcements being made?
i might consider staying awake tonight or setting the alarm because i want these itunes rumors to be true so badly
10 AM Pacific time on Tuesday, Oct 26th. That's GMT-7, so it'll happen at 5 PM GMT, or 1 PM EDT.

broken_keyboard

Oct 25, 2004, 11:54 PM

How do you guys make those damn links work? I'm on Opera 7.54/Windows, and all I get is an "address type not supported" error...?!

I am on Win2000/IE6 and clicking it makes iTunes pop to the front and go to a certain song. Also does that on my G5 at home.

agentkow

Oct 26, 2004, 02:02 AM

How do you guys make those damn links work? I'm on Opera 7.54/Windows, and all I get is an "address type not supported" error...?!

Do you have iTunes?

You could get it now or wait till tomorrow...

;)

SilvorX

Oct 26, 2004, 02:08 AM

i sure hope that iTMS comes to canada *crosses fingers*

aafuss1

Oct 26, 2004, 02:08 AM

What time will it be in over in Australia when the announcements be made ?

Yvan256

Oct 26, 2004, 02:13 AM

Do you have iTunes?

You could get it now or wait till tomorrow...

;)

Well, "of course" I have iTunes. :rolleyes:

abc123

Oct 26, 2004, 02:20 AM

What time will it be in over in Australia when the announcements be made ?
i tired to work it out and came up with 3am, i'm not 100% sure though

dejo

Oct 26, 2004, 02:24 AM

What time will it be in over in Australia when the announcements be made ?

Which time zone in Australia are you in?

10 AM PDT (Cupertino) = 3 AM AEST (Sydney)

or

10 AM PDT = 1 AM AWST (Perth)

P.S. Here's the site I used: timeanddate.com (http://www.timeanddate.com/)

pkis

Oct 26, 2004, 02:43 AM

of flemmish in there. The SWISS do speak german though.. A bastardized form.. but german none the less.

Actually, High German, as learned in school in Germany, Switzerland etc. is the bastardized form. Swiss German (at least the Allemanic dialect spoken in the Midlands) is one of the original German dialects and is MUCH closer to the language that all other German (NOT Germanic) branches have developped from.

how_quare

Oct 26, 2004, 02:45 AM

If the country specific songs are available, would they be available? Some NZ artists are available, such as Crowded House, which is big tho, yet ones like Anika Moa, who is still very localised, is there too. But ones like Fur Patrol isn't there, plus, with Apple NZ run by a reseller (as opposed to Apple Computer) would that work? I hope it's here soon! would really boost the presence apple has built with teh iPod here.

knuxed

Oct 26, 2004, 02:45 AM

sigh....

so i guess iTMS ASEAN
(Singapore, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei,Thailand etc) will still be a long way off........

Bout that,I am from Malaysia and whenever I try to open Itunes especially in Malaysia.They say its not avalaible yet. :confused: :confused: It may come because of that message,you can never know

adamberti

Oct 26, 2004, 02:50 AM

The old page 2 rumour said Canada on the 26th of November... Someone got their months mixed up? However, my hopes arent up, I'll believe it when I see it.

Anyone else find Apple has really bad timing? I always have exams or large projects on the days that Apple holds events and I really have a tough time choosing one or the other. :D

TorbX

Oct 26, 2004, 02:55 AM

Although it is not exactly the same, most Europeans would have trouble naming more than maybe a dozen U.S. states.

There is nothing wrong with ignorance, as long as you aware of it.

Duh! We have 19 regions on Norway, name TWO!

... No, didn't think so.

cazlar

Oct 26, 2004, 02:57 AM

there is some australian stuff in the store today

killing heidi and bardot :eek: spiderbait

maybe these have been there a while though, i don't know

I was only 40% positive that iTMS was coming to Australia before I saw this. Now I'm about 80% sure - who outside of Australia would have even heard of Bardot, let alone have any wish to buy them (trust me, you're lucky if you've never heard of them). Killing heidi have toured the US apparently, not sure if Spiderbait have though. Searching for some other local bands that aren't world-famous (yet) finds Jebediah and Missy higgins there but no grinspoon/John butler Trio/eskimo joe. So who knows? I'll be up at 3am anyway :)

abc123

Oct 26, 2004, 03:10 AM

i wonder if there is a list somewhere of songs that have never once been downloaded, i would have a laugh reading through that and for sure bardot would be on it

aafuss1

Oct 26, 2004, 03:17 AM

Which time zone in Australia are you in?

10 AM PDT (Cupertino) = 3 AM AEST (Sydney)

or

10 AM PDT = 1 AM AWST (Perth)

P.S. Here's the site I used: timeanddate.com (http://www.timeanddate.com/)

I'm in QLD-so the first one is closet to me. Anyone here from Perth-because they'll probably see the announcements before those on the east coast do.

Probably some iPod/iTMS announcements and no eMacs (a music event wouldn't cover a eMac intro-but in retrospect iBooks were updated close to the 1st anniversary since the iBook went G4 and this event) -perhaps a even minor iTunes update.

JFreak

Oct 26, 2004, 03:18 AM

Duh! We have 19 regions on Norway, name TWO!

...each region being as small as some smallville in the middle of texas, so who cares ;) finland too has the thing called lapland which is roughly one third of the land area but very few people actyally live there. do we expect americans to know that? no way.

if europeans expect americans to know european countries, it goes the other way too: americans can expect us to know the states, because each state is comparable to average european country, people-wise and in land area. it's not like americans should be able to tell where "england" actually is located in the great britain ;)

aafuss1

Oct 26, 2004, 03:21 AM

I was only 40% positive that iTMS was coming to Australia before I saw this. Now I'm about 80% sure - who outside of Australia would have even heard of Bardot, let alone have any wish to buy them (trust me, you're lucky if you've never heard of them). Killing heidi have toured the US apparently, not sure if Spiderbait have though. Searching for some other local bands that aren't world-famous (yet) finds Jebediah and Missy higgins there but no grinspoon/John butler Trio/eskimo joe. So who knows? I'll be up at 3am anyway :)

Is there any Australian/American/Pop Idol music on the iTMS stores or in Australia would Bigpond or NineMSN would at least have music from any of the winners from that shows. ?

aswitcher

Oct 26, 2004, 03:27 AM

NoooooOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

I want my iTMS :(

Will you be staying up aswitcher? Looks like it's a 3am night for me...

Man, if i KNEW it was definetely happening YES. But it may not OR it may occur local time 9am...

cb911

Oct 26, 2004, 03:37 AM

w00t!! :D is all i need to say if this is really happening now. :D

i just hope that songs will be 99c here in Aus. ;) you know, for the sake of keeping it a nice round number. :p

how_quare

Oct 26, 2004, 03:43 AM

who outside of Australia would have even heard of Bardot,

I have, but that is because TVNZ made us suffer through Australia's Popstar's (I didn't even realise they were still together!:S, poor, poor, world)

let alone have any wish to buy them

Could not put it better myself.

Wait a sec tho... That Bardot is not the Australian Bardot, it is Brigette Bardot whom the Australian Bardot named tehmselves after.

liketom

Oct 26, 2004, 03:44 AM

Man, if i KNEW it was definetely happening YES. But it may not OR it may occur local time 9am...

this may be true , 9am local may mean we all know about it while aus sleeps and when you wake up you will have the iTunes Music Store lol

so what is it now 9 hours 15 min left to go to find out :eek:

reckless_0001

Oct 26, 2004, 04:23 AM

Does anybody care that Mac OS 10.3.6 might be released today too?

here is a thread I started a while ago...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=94712

mattroberts

Oct 26, 2004, 04:32 AM

I stopped trying to catch up on page 6. the error message has changed since yesterday NOW i get a timeout error. that my internet connection or the server is down - anyone else got this? or was this on page 7 :-)

cheers
m

EDIT - after half an hour of trying I'm back to the old not available in your country thingy.

aswitcher

Oct 26, 2004, 04:34 AM

w00t!! :D is all i need to say if this is really happening now. :D

i just hope that songs will be 99c here in Aus. ;) you know, for the sake of keeping it a nice round number. :p

That would be great. And they need to aim at that sort of price range to take on the current online music sales like Destra.

TorbX

Oct 26, 2004, 04:39 AM

...each region being as small as some smallville in the middle of texas, so who cares ;) finland too has the thing called lapland which is roughly one third of the land area but very few people actyally live there. do we expect americans to know that? no way.

if europeans expect americans to know european countries, it goes the other way too: americans can expect us to know the states, because each state is comparable to average european country, people-wise and in land area. it's not like americans should be able to tell where "england" actually is located in the great britain ;)

Well, I know a few states. The non-square ones. California, n/w Virginia, Florida, Michigan, etc.

Square states... Man, I'd get paranoid by living there...

liketom

Oct 26, 2004, 05:05 AM

you know when the UK Store was launched it went live at around 12.30 pm so maybe we can start seeing some of the european stores go live in less then 3 -4 hours it would be the solution as why would apple release so much in one day ? Music stores ? iPod , and maybe even a eMac and some have said the next release of Panther 10.3.6 so all being well we might see a staggerd release today !

here's hoping for a good day

switch2mac

Oct 26, 2004, 05:14 AM

BAD Fake..

Apple would NEVER do Belgium before Nederlands!

Duh ;P

If your going to Put Belgium on the list (and Denmark) you better include the nederlands in you fake ;)

I'd better not react to this HyperX...
but no, you're right, they would do the Netherlands before Belgium

Ps: Steve Jobs has bought a house in Rotterdam or Amsterdam...
PS, here's your recipy:

-peel the potatoes (indeed, fresh! fries)
-cut them into fine sticks (about 1cm thick = 1/3of an inch)
-wash the sticks and let them dry, or rub the sticks with a towel (to remove all the substance that makes them wet when you cut them)
-bake them in a deep saucepan with oil (those special things, yes, not just the pan you use to roast your beef!) at 170 °C for a minute or five.
-get them out of the oil and put them in a jar that you covered with paper towels so as to extract as much oil from the fries as possible.
-when the fries are cold, put them in the saucepan again, but now with the oil at a good 180°C (or a little more). The difference in temperature is the big secret to make exellent Friench Fries: Crusty.
The kitchen paper to extract the fat is also very important.

Enjoy on this marvelous day.
It feels like 1984 again... :-)

PS: what country are you now?

MOFS

Oct 26, 2004, 05:15 AM

...each region being as small as some smallville in the middle of texas, so who cares ;) finland too has the thing called lapland which is roughly one third of the land area but very few people actyally live there. do we expect americans to know that? no way.

if europeans expect americans to know european countries, it goes the other way too: americans can expect us to know the states, because each state is comparable to average european country, people-wise and in land area. it's not like americans should be able to tell where "england" actually is located in the great britain ;)

Oh come on - everyone knows where lapland is - its where Santa lives! ;)

Btw I was born in the Isle of Man (separate government, mint etc) - anyone know where that is? :p

Btw Btw Good to see more European/ Australasian/ North American sites seem to be coming up - maybe that means we'll get even more indies here!

sjl

Oct 26, 2004, 05:23 AM

I'm in QLD-so the first one is closet to me. Anyone here from Perth-because they'll probably see the announcements before those on the east coast do.

Trying to figure out how you came to that conclusion ... it's 1am in Perth when it's 3am in Sydney/Melbourne. That means that, if you assume people get up at around 7am, people in Sydney/Melbourne will get up four hours after the announcement; people in Perth will get up six hours after. Ergo, the odds are good that the east coast will know before the west coast.

Of course, this assumes that the announcement is made at 10am Cupertino time. If it's made at 9am Sydney time, I'll be a little bit surprised (not super surprised, just a little bit.)

In any case, I'm going to have to put my credit card in a block of ice. I can't afford to be buying music right now...

switch2mac

Oct 26, 2004, 05:27 AM

Oh come on - everyone knows where lapland is - its where Santa lives! ;)

Btw I was born in the Isle of Man (separate government, mint etc) - anyone know where that is? :p

Btw Btw Good to see more European/ Australasian/ North American sites seem to be coming up - maybe that means we'll get even more indies here!

Yep, in between Ireland an Great Britain,
it is a Crown dependecy (so are the Channel Ilands). It has complete internl self-fovernment, including its own Parliament and its own tax system. It is ruled by a Lieutenat Governor appointed by the British.

It has a local dialect: Manx.

not bad for a Belgian heh...

broken_keyboard

Oct 26, 2004, 05:30 AM

I wonder how many songs iTunes has sold now
125,000,000 ?

toti

Oct 26, 2004, 05:34 AM

Mkay.. someone put Iceland on that list... I wonder why :)

They have like... less than 300,000 inhabitants. Seem a strange route for Apple ( very unusual actually, since Apple havn't bothered all that much about that little island in the north.. )

Would be a nice gesture tho, but I don't see any Icelandic content on ITMS except for bork bork Björk...