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Stanza
May 2, 2009, 03:00 AM
Is it possible to remove the server parts of Tiger server? So I am left with just a basic tiger install?

I am currently in this unique situation, in that I have on me here only a Tiger server installation CD and serial number.

I have put this onto my Quicksilver, but I have no need of the actual server parts of this install.... so what do I need to remove / disable etc to make this into Tiger?

It only has 1gig ram and a 933mhz cpu so the less running the better I think.

I have a Leopard disk also.... but I think for this class of machine I might be best sticking to Tiger.

But I have NO Tiger install disk... (well only one that came with my intel mini) but I know that won't work and is illegal.

So I have heard people have installed Tiger and then added the server parts ? can it be done in reverse?

Tony



Yoursh
May 2, 2009, 10:56 PM
Unfortunately you can't remove the server parts of a OSX server install. You don't have to use them though. When you install OSX server the server applications are all turned off unless you go in and change that. You can run OSX server fine without using any of the server functions. 10.5 server gives you the option of automatically turning services on when your setting it up but 10.4 server's setup is different. You would just install the os like normal then when you get to the initial server setup, just skip setting up any services.

dukebound85
May 2, 2009, 10:58 PM
whats wrong with haveing the server parts?

Stanza
May 3, 2009, 12:37 AM
Well I guess there is nothing wrong with having the server parts installed. I was just wondering if it could be done.

Mainly for when I am trying things out on my MAC's that is.

ie currently I am fiddling with several machines... reinstalling stuff left right and centre, changing configs around until I get a setup I like. Mainly one home server and several of the other machines will be headless either emacs (just the logic boards) or Quicksilvers with possibly smallish or no HDD's etc.

Then I am going to try booting them off a server and have a fiddle with XGRID mainly.

No at the moment I have the install disks for

emac 10.2 orig install disks
orig 10.2 retail
orig 10.3 retail
mac mini 10.4 orig install disks
Tiger Server x 2
Leopard 10.5.6 retail

10.2 is out I believe because it's slower and doesn't have Xgrid
10.3 I believe can have Xgrid added ??
10.4 has Xgrid in it
Leopard has Xgrid in it.

But being older machine I was thinking 10.4 would be best?

But before I search for Tiger retail disks Either CD or DVD versions
I would like to try using my Tiger server disks....

But seeing as I only have 2 licenses for Server that means I can only try it on 2 machines (I believe) before it calls home and screams.... Then I would have to go thru the process of validating my licenses to apple etc every time I change a config around. Which in my case will be quite a lot until I am happy with what setup I end up with.

I currently have
3 x Quicksilvers
1 x B&W G3
1 x Emac
1 x Mac Mini
1 x G3 imac

All slow and old machine as thats all I can afford to play with at present.

Still, I would like to get Tiger Server going on 1 machine and have all the others netboot off this machine and make a smallish Xgrid to try some things out.

IUnless someone knows where to get a few copies of tiger cheaply, then I am stuck with what I have got at present.

Yoursh
May 3, 2009, 01:20 AM
Well the Quicksilvers aren't that bad. I would recommend trying 10.5 on one and see how much of a resource hog it is. When I ran it on a Powermac one model earlier than a Quicksilver(466MHz), the only drawback was the video. The stock cards of that era are not 10.5 friendly. But if your only going to be running them headless, 10.5 may work. Try it on one of the Quicksilvers, the one with the lowest specs, and see how it runs. Mainly check processor and ram usage is at idle. Then install 10.4 server.(Maybe try a dual boot, I did. Original 10.4 on one drive, 10.5 on second drive.) Check how the resources look on them while 10.4 is idle. If your planning to play with Xgrid, you want to have as much of the system's resources available that you can. You may find that, stripped down with only a minimal install, they may run fairly similar. Something to try.

As for finding 10.4 for cheap, your best option is locally. Craigslist sometimes has it for cheap(seen it for $30-$50), but any used resellers online still charge close to retail for it.