Here we go again Limbaugh to Powell Become a democrat already.

[macfan881]

Again Limbaugh is on the Rampage again attaking Powell for his recent coments on his thoughts on the GOP Saying just become a Democrat already.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/07/limbaugh-to-powell-become-a-democrat-2/

and heaven forbid any republican speaks against there party it will be intresting to see who the party will side up with on this one.:rolleyes:

[leekohler]

Again Limbaugh is on the Rampage again attaking Powell for his recent coments on his thoughts on the GOP Saying just become a Democrat already.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/07/limbaugh-to-powell-become-a-democrat-2/

and heaven forbid any republican speaks against there party it will be intresting to see who the party will side up with on this one.:rolleyes:

Powell is right. People like Limbaugh are exactly what's wrong with the Republican party at the moment. He's what's been wrong with them for a very long time.

[mactastic]

Ah yes... the purity police are out again. That's right Boss Limbaugh, your party just hasn't been hard-right enough. That's your problem. Believe that, and run with it -- I'm begging you.

It's also quite amusing in light of the interview I saw this morning where Specter's replacement on the Judiciary committee was on the teevee crying crocodile tears of concern saying that it was such a bad sign that Democrats have temporarily stripped Specter of his seniority because it's a sign of a party enforcing rigid ideological purity upon it's members. Seriously. And he said it without a hint of irony.

[rdowns]

My favorite Rushism of the Week™

Eric Cantor going out on a listening tour.
Limbaugh saying we don't need a listening tour,, we need to educate tour.
Cantor going on TV saying he wasn't on a listening tour.

Pathetic.

[yg17]

Boss Lardbaugh says Powell's endorsement of Obama is about race....if it was about race, why the hell did he not endorse until 2 weeks before the election? Both Powell and Obama have always been black, if Powell's going to endorse because Obama is black, he would've done it at the beginning of the election cycle. One of them didn't suddenly turn black the day before Powell endorsed.

[Teh Don Ditty]

Colin Powell is openly white, he just happens to be black

</George Carlin>

[mactastic]

Boss Lardbaugh says Powell's endorsement of Obama is about race....if it was about race, why the hell did he not endorse until 2 weeks before the election? Both Powell and Obama have always been black, if Powell's going to endorse because Obama is black, he would've done it at the beginning of the election cycle. One of them didn't suddenly turn black the day before Powell endorsed.
This is frickin' hilarious. Rush simultaneously claims that Powell is a liberal who might as well join the Democratic party; and also that the only thing Powell based his vote upon was Obama's race.

If Powell is indeed such a liberal, wouldn't that mean he supported Obama on far more than just a racial basis?

Rush can't even keep his smears straight.

[Queso]

Is it too early to put a bet on four more years?

[leekohler]

As I've said before, please let Limbaugh keep talking. We won't have to worry about Republicans for a very long time.

[Tomorrow]

If Powell is indeed such a liberal, wouldn't that mean he supported Obama on far more than just a racial basis?

I'm not sold on Powell being all that liberal; I got the sense last fall (around the time of the election) that his endorsement did have something to do with race, although it would be colossally stupid of him to admit that. The smartest way for Powell to have played it was to sell his endorsement on Obama's politics. We may never know the truth.

I've told many people that although I was disappointed with the outcome of the Presidential election, the two things that disappointed me most were (1) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for Obama largely (if not completely) because of his race, and (2) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for McCain largely (if not completely) because of Obama's race.

[leekohler]

I'm not sold on Powell being all that liberal; I got the sense last fall (around the time of the election) that his endorsement did have something to do with race, although it would be colossally stupid of him to admit that. The smartest way for Powell to have played it was to sell his endorsement on Obama's politics. We may never know the truth.

I've told many people that although I was disappointed with the outcome of the Presidential election, the two things that disappointed me most were (1) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for Obama largely (if not completely) because of his race, and (2) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for McCain largely (if not completely) because of Obama's race.

Huh? It couldn't be because of policy difference? I'd say race had very little to do with the outcome of the election. Those two groups you mentioned most likely cancelled each other out.

[mactastic]

I'm not sold on Powell being all that liberal; I got the sense last fall (around the time of the election) that his endorsement did have something to do with race, although it would be colossally stupid of him to admit that. The smartest way for Powell to have played it was to sell his endorsement on Obama's politics. We may never know the truth.
Of course Powell's no more a liberal than Obama is a socialist. Limbaugh apparently thinks anyone who doesn't hew to his version of conservatism is a liberal.

I got the sense that Powell was thoroughly disgusted with the path the GOP was taking, and that he thought President Obama would be better for America than President McCain would.

Of course, we may never know the truth about much of anything any politician says -- or any person.

I've told many people that although I was disappointed with the outcome of the Presidential election, the two things that disappointed me most were (1) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for Obama largely (if not completely) because of his race, and (2) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for McCain largely (if not completely) because of Obama's race.
Or the people who voted for Bush because they wanted to have a beer with him, or because he had an (R) after his name, or because he believed in the same god as they did.

Or the people who voted the opposite. I'm not a big fan of the single-issue, no-thought-involved voter.

[Rt&Dzine]

I'm not sold on Powell being all that liberal; I got the sense last fall (around the time of the election) that his endorsement did have something to do with race, although it would be colossally stupid of him to admit that. The smartest way for Powell to have played it was to sell his endorsement on Obama's politics. We may never know the truth.

Powell may not be that liberal, but he became disenchanted with much of the Republican agenda (Bush/Cheney) well before Obama ran for president. Powell tried to talk Bush out of the Iraq war among other things.

Edit: weird, mactastic's post didn't show up before I posted or I'm blind.

[yg17]

I'm not sold on Powell being all that liberal; I got the sense last fall (around the time of the election) that his endorsement did have something to do with race, although it would be colossally stupid of him to admit that. The smartest way for Powell to have played it was to sell his endorsement on Obama's politics. We may never know the truth.

I've told many people that although I was disappointed with the outcome of the Presidential election, the two things that disappointed me most were (1) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for Obama largely (if not completely) because of his race, and (2) knowing that there are many people out there who voted for McCain largely (if not completely) because of Obama's race.

The people who would've voted for Obama due to race are going to be African Americans, and they overwhelmingly vote Democratic in every presidential election

[Tomorrow]

Huh? It couldn't be because of policy difference? I'd say race had very little to do with the outcome of the election. Those two groups you mentioned most likely cancelled each other out.

I'm sure policy difference was a factor for many voters, and hopefully with all voters. Race alone might not have made the difference; especially since, as you mentioned, the two groups likely cancelled each other out, at least partially.

My disappointment has more to do with people allowing race to be a factor. I can appreciate that it's more pleasant to think about policy being the deciding factor, but you can't convince me that nobody out there let race be a factor. You've probably been subjected to some persecution somewhere along the way in your life - you don't think there are some "good ol' boys" who voted for McCain because they couldn't stomach the thought of a black man in the White House? Or surely, somewhere in this country, are some blacks who finally saw a chance to buck a 220-year trend of white presidents?

Or the people who voted for Bush because they wanted to have a beer with him, or because he had an (R) after his name, or because he believed in the same god as they did.

Or the people who voted the opposite. I'm not a big fan of the single-issue, no-thought-involved voter.

I think my logic to Lee's argument applies to yours as well; Bush almost certainly got votes because of all the reasons you mentioned. But it's just my opinion that all of those are more forgivable reasons for choosing a candidate than choosing based on race.

[kavika411]

I just did a "search forums" to see how many threads contain the following terms, and got the following results:

Obama 141
Bush 179
Kevin Rose 201
Pelosi 271
Jobs 339
Limbaugh 382

Not sure what it means.

[leekohler]

I think my logic to Lee's argument applies to yours as well; Bush almost certainly got votes because of all the reasons you mentioned. But it's just my opinion that all of those are more forgivable reasons for choosing a candidate than choosing based on race.

I don't think any of the reasons Mac mentioned are any more forgivable. They're all based on ignorance of the real issues.

I'm sure there were people who voted because of race, but as I mentioned, I bet they cancelled each other out.

[mactastic]

I think my logic to Lee's argument applies to yours as well; Bush almost certainly got votes because of all the reasons you mentioned. But it's just my opinion that all of those are more forgivable reasons for choosing a candidate than choosing based on race.
Why would it be more forgivable to vote for someone because they're fervent believers in the same religious sect as you than because they're the same race as you? I don't see any difference between the two, so I'm curious to know what makes a race-based vote worse in your mind.

[Thomas Veil]

This is beautiful. The Republican party is a sinking ship; moderates like Specter are jumping overboard; and Captain Bli-- er, Limbaugh, is actively encouraging desertion!

To carry the sailing analogy further, Captain Limbaugh reminds me of Curly (of Three Stooges fame), who, when faced with a sinking ship, decided to drill holes in the bottom of the boat to let the water out.

Yes, it's that kind of comedic self-destruction.

And since I've been suffering that blowhard's pronunciamentos for several decades now and have been waiting patiently for him to get his comeuppance, I will now sit on the shore and sip a margarita while I watch him and his crew go down for the third time.

Yo ho ho!

[yg17]

This is beautiful. The Republican party is a sinking ship; moderates like Specter are jumping overboard; and Captain Bli-- er, Limbaugh, is actively encouraging desertion!

To carry the sailing analogy further, Captain Limbaugh reminds me of Curly (of Three Stooges fame), who, when faced with a sinking ship, decided to drill holes in the bottom of the boat to let the water out.

Yes, it's that kind of comedic self-destruction.

And since I've been suffering that blowhard's pronunciamentos for several decades now and have been waiting patiently for him to get his comeuppance, I will now sit on the shore and sip a margarita while I watch him and his crew go down for the third time.

Yo ho ho!

That's not a fair comparison. Curly is very funny and entertaining and probably wasn't half the asshat Lardbaugh is

[leekohler]

This is beautiful. The Republican party is a sinking ship; moderates like Specter are jumping overboard; and Captain Bli-- er, Limbaugh, is actively encouraging desertion!

To carry the sailing analogy further, Captain Limbaugh reminds me of Curly (of Three Stooges fame), who, when faced with a sinking ship, decided to drill holes in the bottom of the boat to let the water out.

Yes, it's that kind of comedic self-destruction.

And since I've been suffering that blowhard's pronunciamentos for several decades now and have been waiting patiently for him to get his comeuppance, I will now sit on the shore and sip a margarita while I watch him and his crew go down for the third time.

Yo ho ho!

It's just amazing to see how unbelievably ridiculous Limbaugh has become. At least during Clinton, he had some legitimate things to say and he even made some sense. Now he's just this side of insane. I listen to him now and he isn't even the same person. He's not funny anymore. He's just full of piss, vinegar and a whole lot of bitterness.

[Macaddicttt]

This is beautiful. The Republican party is a sinking ship; moderates like Specter are jumping overboard; and Captain Bli-- er, Limbaugh, is actively encouraging desertion!

As a direct descendant of Captain Bligh, I take offense at that comparison. :mad: :p

Although Bligh was subject to a mutiny, so it's more like Limbaugh is the mutineers and Bligh is the moderate Republicans. Let's just hope that they manage to do what Bligh did in the end: haul them back to London and hang them.... :p

(I kid, I kid. I don't want anyone to be hanged.)

[Tomorrow]

I don't think any of the reasons Mac mentioned are any more forgivable. They're all based on ignorance of the real issues.

Why would it be more forgivable to vote for someone because they're fervent believers in the same religious sect as you than because they're the same race as you?

Because a vote for a skin color makes no sense to me - as far as I'm concerned you might as well ask each candidate to pick a number 1 to 10, or flip a coin, because to me it surely isn't taking ideology into account. A vote for an ideology does make sense to me, whether it's religion, economics, or whatever.

[mactastic]

Because a vote for a skin color makes no sense to me - as far as I'm concerned you might as well ask each candidate to pick a number 1 to 10, or flip a coin, because to me it surely isn't taking ideology into account. A vote for an ideology does make sense to me, whether it's religion, economics, or whatever.
Religion says nothing about ideology. Nor does the ability to enjoy a malted beverage, how "hot" the candidate is, their state of residence, or any of a host of other factors. To me, that's the same as basing your vote on race.

Unless you base your vote on a range of issues, and the candidates actions (not words) addressing those issues, you might as well just pull the lever for/against someone based on their race.

[Gelfin]

It's just amazing to see how unbelievably ridiculous Limbaugh has become. At least during Clinton, he had some legitimate things to say and he even made some sense. Now he's just this side of insane. I listen to him now and he isn't even the same person. He's not funny anymore. He's just full of piss, vinegar and a whole lot of bitterness.

See, I don't think he's insane at all. On the contrary, I think the man is quite canny. A bipartisan-friendly GOP takes money almost directly out of his pocket. On the other hand, a bloodless coup that substitutes his audience for the former membership of a formerly legitimate political party puts money directly into it.

Limbaugh is the toxoplasma gondii in the rat's brain of the Republican Party. He knows he's marginalizing the GOP and he knows he'll be richer than Croesus as long as he can keep it up.

[Zombie Acorn]

I don't listen to him, but I imagine I wouldn't care for him. I am not religious at all and for some reason I get the feeling he rides the religions zealot train quite a bit.

[Tomorrow]

Religion says nothing about ideology.

I lol'd. Read on:

Unless you base your vote on a range of issues, and the candidates actions (not words) addressing those issues, you might as well just pull the lever for/against someone based on their race.

So you think religion says nothing about ideology...then if Bible thumpers call homosexuality a sin, call abortion murder, and frown on same-sex marriage, you're actually going to chalk all that up to coincidence and claim that religion has nothing to do with those ideals?

Wow....

[leekohler]

Because a vote for a skin color makes no sense to me - as far as I'm concerned you might as well ask each candidate to pick a number 1 to 10, or flip a coin, because to me it surely isn't taking ideology into account. A vote for an ideology does make sense to me, whether it's religion, economics, or whatever.

Prejudice against skin color at one point in time was indeed part of an ideology...you can't deny that. If that makes sense to you, so be it. I think it's a damn shame.

[mactastic]

I lol'd. Read on:



So you think religion says nothing about ideology...then if Bible thumpers call homosexuality a sin, call abortion murder, and frown on same-sex marriage, you're actually going to chalk all that up to coincidence and claim that religion has nothing to do with those ideals?
I LOL'd. Read on:

Wow....
Are you actually suggesting that:
A: All religions call homosexuality a sin, call abortion murder, and frown on same sex marriage; and

B: That every politician who says he is a devoutly religious person actually IS?

[solvs]

As I recall, Powell was on the Daily Show not too long before the endorsement but after Obama made the announcement he was running defending Bush and the GOP. I think it was more about things like Palin, the Ayers thing that wasn't, and all the talk of socialism/communism/fascism/ismism/whateverism. And Palin. If race had anything to do with it, it was more about the ACORN thing that also wasn't, and all the brewhaha over Obama's crazy black (former US Marine) preacher, while everyone else's crazy preachers got passes. Obama is far more moderate than people seem to give him credit for if you actually look at his actual views and how he implements them, and McCain had to take a hard shift to the right that is still hurting the party, driving moderates like Powell out.

Couldn't possibly be you guys. No, it's all about those nasty defectors who've suddenly decided to move left. Even if they've stayed the same while it is your party that shifts even further away from what it claims to be. Because Boss Limbaugh told you to. Even though he makes his living being divisive and actually makes more when you lot actually are the disenfranchised minority instead of being in charge, actually implementing your policies that of course don't work. He said as much after the heavy losses the last couple of times, that he was sick of having to carry the water. Now he gets to snipe from the slidelines, and because he's the opposition. Because those in the disenfranchised minority need someone to tell them what they want to hear and legitimize what they feel, even if his actions and words are in his best interest, not yours, and even when he flat out admits as much.

[Cromulent]

(I kid, I kid. I don't want anyone to be hanged.)

Just join the Democrats already :p;).