Apple Announces WWDC 2009 Keynote to be Led by Phil Schiller [Archive]

themoonisdown09

May 13, 2009, 07:48 AM

Apple just posted that Phil Schiller will deliver the WWDC keynote. I know that this is no big surprise, but at least now we know. Who knows, maybe Steve Jobs will come on stage at the end to make an appearance.

Apple® will kick off its annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) with a keynote address on Monday, June 8 at 10:00 a.m. A team of Apple executives, led by Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, will deliver the keynote. WWDC will offer in-depth sessions on both iPhone™ OS 3.0, the world’s most advanced mobile operating system, and Mac OS® X Snow Leopard™, an even more powerful and refined version of the world’s best desktop operating system and the foundation for future Mac® innovation.

Article link (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/05/13wwdc.html)

talkingfuture

May 13, 2009, 07:51 AM

Let the anticipation begin. I can't wait to see what they show.

Chundles

May 13, 2009, 07:52 AM

I thought he would. Steve won't be back till late June.

iGary

May 13, 2009, 08:00 AM

Ugh.

Phil freaking Schiller.

MacRumors

May 13, 2009, 08:05 AM

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Apple today issued a press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/05/13wwdc.html) announcing that the keynote address for its upcoming Worldwide Developers Conference will be held on June 8th at 10 AM Pacific Time. The keynote will be given by a team of executives led by Phil Schiller, senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing.Apple will kick off its annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) with a keynote address on Monday, June 8 at 10:00 a.m. A team of Apple executives, led by Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, will deliver the keynote. WWDC will offer in-depth sessions on both iPhone OS 3.0, the world's most advanced mobile operating system, and Mac OS X Snow Leopard, an even more powerful and refined version of the world’s best desktop operating system and the foundation for future Mac innovation.Apple also announced that it will be issuing a final Developer Preview version of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard at the event."Last June, we gave developers an early look at the powerful new technologies that form the underpinnings of Mac OS X Snow Leopard," said Bertrand Serlet, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "At WWDC, we will be giving our developers a final Developer Preview release so they can see the incredible progress we've made on Snow Leopard and work with us as we move toward its final release."Apple CEO Steve Jobs is currently taking a medical leave of absence (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/14/steve-jobs-taking-medical-leave-of-absence-until-june/) until June, and many have hoped that he will make his first public reappearance at WWDC. While today's announcement does not preclude an appearance by Jobs, it does appear that, unless plans change, he will not play his traditional keynote role.

Article Link: Apple Announces WWDC 2009 Keynote to be Led by Phil Schiller (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/13/apple-announces-wwdc-2009-keynote-to-be-led-by-phil-schiller/)

edesignuk

May 13, 2009, 08:08 AM

Apple also announced that it will be issuing a final Developer Preview version of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard at the event.So, who will release their latest and greatest first (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=700048)?

Merkuryy

May 13, 2009, 08:09 AM

Good, at last we can see whether iPhone sales go really well without the appearance of Steve. But ,anyway ,come back soon , Jobs ,plz!!!!! We need you to fight back Zune HD and ZunePhone :o

villanova329

May 13, 2009, 08:09 AM

sd2009

May 13, 2009, 08:09 AM

And AAPL stock starts to fall rapidly... ;)

FrerkLovesApple

May 13, 2009, 08:10 AM

I was so much hoping to see Steve back at WWDC this year... Schiller's of course not bad, but Steve is just "the original".

mac ath

May 13, 2009, 08:11 AM

aaaa lets hope for a surprise kind of guest appearence during the keynote. ie. one more thing... and there is Steve healthy and all

Sambo110

May 13, 2009, 08:11 AM

Wasn't Steve meant to be back in June? What happened to that, is he still coming back? I hope so.

crossifixio

May 13, 2009, 08:12 AM

:apple:Looking forward to the event!:apple:

GeekLawyer

May 13, 2009, 08:13 AM

Wasn't Steve meant to be back in June? What happened to that, is he still coming back? I hope so.

Late-June. Apple has been clear that Steve would be returning to full-time work at the end of June.

r.j.s

May 13, 2009, 08:13 AM

Wasn't Steve meant to be back in June? What happened to that, is he still coming back? I hope so.

He can still come back in June, he just might not be prepared to give the keynote on the 8th ... if he's back by then, June is a whole month.

talkingfuture

May 13, 2009, 08:15 AM

I think there was no chance of Steve doing the keynote because it must take a few weeks of stressful preparations and rehearsals to prepare one. If he comes back at the end of June the earliest he would be ready to do an event would be mid/late July. Its better that he misses WWDC and gets back in shape before the inevitable iPod and notebook updates late summer/autumn.

instaxgirl

May 13, 2009, 08:16 AM

I was so much hoping to see Steve back at WWDC this year... Schiller's of course not bad, but Steve is just "the original".

Yeah me too. The keynote I watched with Schiller was so duuuullll then again all he had to work with was iWork/iLife. Hardly fun city.

Hopefully this keynote'll be more interesting.

Warbrain

May 13, 2009, 08:16 AM

And here come the rumors of Steve Jobs' demise in 3...2...1...

markfc

May 13, 2009, 08:18 AM

Who is this Steve Jobs?

aprofetto

May 13, 2009, 08:19 AM

The Terminator.

Sambo110

May 13, 2009, 08:20 AM

Late-June. Apple has been clear that Steve would be returning to full-time work at the end of June.

Never knew that. I knew it could be anytime in June, I just expected him to be there at the Keynote.

Sehnsucht

May 13, 2009, 08:21 AM

Ugh, really? :rolleyes:

If not El Jobso, what about Jonathan Ive?

Hell, they should just let me do it... :D

puffnstuff

May 13, 2009, 08:22 AM

there was already an article posted a while back stating he was ill and couldn't make it. Think it was on gizmodo?

jlewis2k1

May 13, 2009, 08:23 AM

hmm, why can't Tim Cook do it? Since he is already filling in for Steve, it would make more sense for Tim to give the keynote over Phil...

GeekLawyer

May 13, 2009, 08:23 AM

Never knew that. I knew it could be anytime in June, I just expected him to be there at the Keynote.

I assumed they picked late-June so he wouldn't have to actually return in May to prepare for the WWDC keynote. And at the end of June, Apple may want to have a small press event on-campus related to the iPhone.

Eduardo1971

May 13, 2009, 08:23 AM

I think the public role that Steve Jobs had with Apple is gone.
:(

Oh well. 'Long live' Phil Schiller!
:D

jholzner

May 13, 2009, 08:26 AM

there was already an article posted a while back stating he was ill and couldn't make it. Think it was on gizmodo?

That article was about some stupid property hearing and had nothing to do with Apple or WWDC.

puffnstuff

May 13, 2009, 08:28 AM

That article was about some stupid property hearing and had nothing to do with Apple or WWDC.

oh sorry then I could have sworn it was about wwdc

Ade-iMac-177

May 13, 2009, 08:29 AM

Ugh.

Phil freaking Schiller.

That's a bit harsh!! he is still a very good keynote speaker.
Anyway, I stand by my belief that Phil will announce a one more thing a Steve will walk onto the stage looking a lot better and possibly holding a new device!

sososowhat

May 13, 2009, 08:29 AM

GeekLawyer

May 13, 2009, 08:30 AM

That's a bit harsh!! he is still a very good keynote speaker.
Anyway, I stand by my belief that Phil will announce a one more thing a Steve will walk onto the stage looking a lot better and possibly holding a new device!

I agree that Schiller does a good job. He's a marketing guy and he's well-suited to giving demos and talking products.

And if the rumors are true about Steve's activities while "on leave," you might just be correct about his return with a new type of device.

Word Warrior

May 13, 2009, 08:31 AM

"........he [Steve Jobs]will not play his traditional keynote role."

Don't bet on it!

But please don't let Schiller loose he is the antithesis of Steve Jobs.
Who was the guy who did so much at the January one? He's the man for the job.

Unfortunately, Jonathan Ive is a little reserved, he lets his imaginative pencil do the talking.

Let's call the rumoured new iPhone nCompass 'coz it is more than just a phone/satnav/pocket computer/er...compass etc, etc geddit? :)

celtikmind

May 13, 2009, 08:32 AM

Good, if Apple is to survive when he retires then they need to show they can exist, function and thrive without him.

He is not God, he is a human being with the needs and limitations that implies. ;)

yamahadrums

May 13, 2009, 08:34 AM

Who is this Steve Jobs?

Iiiiiihaaaaaaa!

iMacmatician

May 13, 2009, 08:36 AM

Looking forward to "Marble" in Snow Leopard.

Compile 'em all

May 13, 2009, 08:37 AM

I see no new iPhone at WWDC.

GeekLawyer

May 13, 2009, 08:38 AM

I see no new iPhone at WWDC.

Maybe. But I see it sometime in June.

TheSpaz

May 13, 2009, 08:39 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing Snow Leopard's new UI ;)

Kelmon

May 13, 2009, 08:44 AM

GmailGuy

May 13, 2009, 08:44 AM

I think Steve Jobs is one of the greatest visionaries and presenters of all time. Without him Apple wouldn't be what it is. Steve won't live forever and I wish him the best of health for the rest of his days. I'm looking forward to seeing him do his thing again in a future keynote.

We've really benefited from Apple in my generation. My hope is that Apple continues to do for my kids and future grandchildren what it has done for us. This won't happen if Apple can't make it past Steve Jobs. It is important for Apple to develop strong leaders and great presenters for the future. It's hard to appreciate others when fixated on one person.

When you think about it, Steve's job of presenting was made easier because the products for the most part have been great. Phil and any other presenters will only get better at this the more they do it.

Sambo110

May 13, 2009, 08:47 AM

The main thing I am interested in SL is the UI :p. Then I will read about all the other features, but I am interested in what it looks like.

Word Warrior

May 13, 2009, 08:47 AM

I see no new iPhone at WWDC.

As someone else has said, maybe, but it may get announced.
Look here:-
http://guides.macrumors.com/iPhone_Buyer%27s_Guide
It's usually pretty accurate.

garethjs

May 13, 2009, 08:47 AM

sparkleytone

May 13, 2009, 08:50 AM

They should really give the job to Scott Forstall. He's far and away their best non-Jobs presenter.

My hope is that Apple continues to do for my kids and future grandchildren what it has done for us. This won't happen if Apple can't make it past Steve Jobs. It is important for Apple to develop strong leaders and great presenters for the future. It's hard to appreciate others when fixated on one person.

As they have told us again and again and again...they DO have strong leaders and great presenters. When you compare everything to Steve Jobs you've set an essentially impossible standard. Any other company would be ecstatic to have Apple's leadership and presenters. What you're not saying is that you really want them to find Steve Jobs part 2. Not going to happen.

Apple Ink

May 13, 2009, 08:53 AM

Ugh.

Phil freaking Schiller.

Seriously... ugh ugh..

Btw <3 ur avatar!

Word Warrior

May 13, 2009, 08:54 AM

ya I see no new iphone as well. The first hour will be an entire repetition of the last keynote (3.0 preview) 15min of which would be how push works (again). The second hour will be of snow leopard.

But yes I as well believe another keynote perhaps in August detailing the new iphone and it's release in September.

Just lost my eagerness

Yes, but why launch iPhone 3.0 OS with all it's much reported features if there isn't the hardware to exploit it. 3.0 OS will do far more than the 3G iPhone can do if rumours are to be believed and way more than my great but aging 2G iPhone. Bring on iPhone 3[rd]G(eneration)
Listen to us all. We're like a bunch of kids in a toy shop!!

twoodcc

May 13, 2009, 08:56 AM

i like phil. granted, i would like to see steve up there with him, but there is still hope. if not, phil will do a great job.

can't wait!

theheadguy

May 13, 2009, 08:58 AM

Wasn't Steve meant to be back in June? What happened to that, is he still coming back? I hope so.
Where have you been? When Apple says June, they mean June 30 or early July. Their date estimates of ANYTHING are pathetic. Ugh.

Word Warrior

May 13, 2009, 08:59 AM

They should really give the job to Scott Forstall. He's far and away their best non-Jobs presenter........

That's the guy I meant. He's good. similar if not quite as charismatic as Steve Jobs but you still hang on his every word.

Schiller is a clever man without a doubt but as a WWDC presenter he's like your embarrassing cousin at a wedding when the Karaoke starts, sit down and let someone else sing!

SirROM

May 13, 2009, 09:00 AM

Steve may be back, but not at WWDC (especially not as a “one more thing”). I agree that Apple will not make a huge production upon his return as they are trying to show they are a company, not an organization built around a single person.

He will likely stay as CEO for another year of two after his return, but will probably not see much public daylight ever again as the frontman for Apple.

This statement by Apple is trying to prevent the wild speculation and stock manipulation that happens in the month before an Apple Event and keeping the focus on what they ARE doing, not what everybody opines they SHOULD be doing.

Very subtle and classy way to get this information out there for those that are really trying to listen

phelix_da_kat

May 13, 2009, 09:01 AM

We could have a ONE-TWO from Apple..
1.. "Oh, one more thing.." stage left, Steve Jobs walks out..
2... holding a.... :rolleyes:

If Steve was only doing the last few mins.. it would not be as stressful as a fully blown presentation..

garethjs

May 13, 2009, 09:02 AM

Yes, but why launch iPhone 3.0 OS with all it's much reported features if there isn't the hardware to exploit it. 3.0 OS will do far more than the 3G iPhone can do if rumours are to be believed and way more than my great but aging 2G iPhone. Bring on iPhone 3[rd]G(eneration)
Listen to us all. We're like a bunch of kids in a toy shop!!

Actually only 2 reported features are not supported on the current 3g iphone. (digital compass and video recording) And it's tracks are very well buried in the current betas. All other features apply to the current iphones and no new hardware is required.

So I don't see why os 3.0 will have to coincide with a new hardware release.

I believe when apple announced the 3g model at the last wwdc it took up the whole show. I just don't think it would make sense to cramp a new iphone release with snow leopard.

themoonisdown09

May 13, 2009, 09:02 AM

They should really give the job to Scott Forstall. He's far and away their best non-Jobs presenter.

That's the guy I meant. He's good. similar if not quite as charismatic as Steve Jobs but you still hang on his every word.

I think Scott Forstall is really boring to listen to. I look forward to keynotes about the iPhone OS, but dread having to listen to him for an hour or so.

iGary

May 13, 2009, 09:04 AM

I think Scott Forstall is really boring to listen to. I look forward to keynotes about the iPhone OS, but dread having to listen to him for an hour or so.

Scott Forstall always sounds so rehearsed.

They should let Greg Joswiak do it.

netdog

May 13, 2009, 09:05 AM

I thought he would. Steve won't be back till late June.

Actually Chundles, as this is a rumors site, the rumors that I have been hearing for quite some time from friends in Northern California is that he won't be back.

I hope I am wrong, and wish Mr. Jobs all the best.

He has given the world a lot.

Jobs is a visionary. There is nobody at Apple to take his place.

He once said of Microsoft that their problem was that they lacked taste in a big sense.

Steve Jobs has extraordinary taste in a big sense. He perceives and translates long before the pack. You cannot replace a guy like that, and during his two stints with the company, he defined the Apple vision and roadmap. An extraordinary man.

agl82

May 13, 2009, 09:07 AM

Stephen123

May 13, 2009, 09:09 AM

The original letter describing his leave of absence didn't say 'until June' or even 'until late June'. It said "until the end of June."

When you say "Apple CEO Steve Jobs is currently taking a medical leave of absence until June, and many have hoped that he will make his first public reappearance at WWDC." you are being misleading. The phrase 'until June' will generally be taken to mean until the beginning of June, so this article makes it seem as though this is a change of plans.

Lone Deranger

May 13, 2009, 09:09 AM

Hm.. imagine the reception he'll get from the audience if that was to happen. They'll go nuts... those are always the coolest parts of the keynote. :D

aaaa lets hope for a surprise kind of guest appearence during the keynote. ie. one more thing... and there is Steve healthy and all

qbricc

May 13, 2009, 09:10 AM

Maybe Apple should use the same format as their product information videos.

"Hi I'm Dave and I work at one of our Apple retail stores. I wanted to show you some of the many new features of ......."

xDYLANx

May 13, 2009, 09:10 AM

we don't get a "One more thing...Steve's dead" :p

tgildred

May 13, 2009, 09:11 AM

... you never know.

agl82

May 13, 2009, 09:11 AM

Full of Win

May 13, 2009, 09:13 AM

Geez, not "The Pig" again. Look at him, his physical appearance is disgusting.

http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20090106/_MG_5995_610x406.JPG

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3521/3224777743_b691bc860f.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries/2008/fortune/0803/gallery.jobsqna.fortune/images/apple_wo_jobs.gi.jpg

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Annual+MacWorld+Conference+Expo+Gets+Underway+H7hrGQKKvZml.jpg

Word Warrior

May 13, 2009, 09:14 AM

iChat AV (WiFi only) on the new iPhone with Phil Schiller, Scott Forstall, whoever taking a call from....... :rolleyes:

Ha ha! I love making these things up!! Who knows, some might happen:D

tgildred

May 13, 2009, 09:14 AM

Actually Chundles, as this is a rumors site, the rumors that I have been hearing for quite some time from friends in Northern California is that he won't be back.

I hope I am wrong, and wish Mr. Jobs all the best.

He has given the world a lot.

Jobs is a visionary. There is nobody at Apple to take his place.

He once said of Microsoft that their problem was that they lacked taste in a big sense.

Steve Jobs has extraordinary taste in a big sense. He perceives and translates long before the pack. You cannot replace a guy like that, and during his two stints with the company, he defined the Apple vision and roadmap. An extraordinary man.

So true. I do hope he'll be back; while hoping that--if he isn't--the company can continue forging ahead successfully.

JoeDRC

May 13, 2009, 09:15 AM

I, for one, am glad to hear that Steve Jobs is not coming back (at least yet). Once he finally retires from Apple, the ridiculous expectations from fanboys and the stock fluctuations based on rumors of his health will cease to exist. I love Apple products but this cult of personality is extremely creepy and turns off a lot of prospective Mac buyers. I finally gave in and purchased a Mac after realizing the quality of the product, but I'm still disgusted by rampant fanboyism and hero worship in the Apple "community". :rolleyes:

He's a great marketing guy, but he's not Jesus Christ.

*begin flaming*

+1 I'm not bothered if Steve leaves Apple, but I can imagine the reactions of fanboys

Roessnakhan

May 13, 2009, 09:16 AM

Maybe he'll come out at the end.

What a twist! [/Shamalayn]

netdog

May 13, 2009, 09:18 AM

+1 I'm not bothered if Steve leaves Apple, but I can imagine the reactions of fanboys

You have no understanding of why Apple is the company that it is.

talkingfuture

May 13, 2009, 09:19 AM

Actually Chundles, as this is a rumors site, the rumors that I have been hearing for quite some time from friends in Northern California is that he won't be back.

I hope I am wrong, and wish Mr. Jobs all the best.

He has given the world a lot.

Jobs is a visionary. There is nobody at Apple to take his place.

He once said of Microsoft that their problem was that they lacked taste in a big sense.

Steve Jobs has extraordinary taste in a big sense. He perceives and translates long before the pack. You cannot replace a guy like that, and during his two stints with the company, he defined the Apple vision and roadmap. An extraordinary man.

I read an article last week, I can't find it now, that suggested Steve may return as chairman but not CEO. Then he is freed of a lot of stress and pressure so he can work exclusively on product development. I think that may be a good move.

Lefteous

May 13, 2009, 09:19 AM

Maybe it's just a surprise that Steve will return as one more thing and then announce the next iThing.

jholzner

May 13, 2009, 09:19 AM

Steve has pancreatic cancer and is most likely terminally ill. I seriously doubt he's going to pop out of a cake and surprise everyone.

Except for the fact he doesn't have cancer...

pik.

May 13, 2009, 09:20 AM

Steve take care mate....:cool:

Rudy69

May 13, 2009, 09:21 AM

There's no reason why he would have been back for the WWDC, he's on leave until the end of June.

JoeDRC

May 13, 2009, 09:26 AM

You have no understanding of why Apple is the company that it is.

I do understand the impact Steve has had on Apple and I agree that it wouldn't be anywhere it is today without him.
But as a company Apple is at the point where it doesn't have to rely on Steve, it has a good team of executives behind it now. If Steve leaves Apple isn't going to go bust.

What makes me cringe so much is fanboys, who pretty much profess their undying love for Steve.

ivladster

May 13, 2009, 09:27 AM

I like Phill! )

ditzy

May 13, 2009, 09:29 AM

Geez, not "The Pig" again. Look at him, his physical appearance is disgusting.

http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20090106/_MG_5995_610x406.JPG http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3521/3224777743_b691bc860f.jpg

Please apple products are supposed to be too thin, not the people who run it. Steve making this mistake cost him six months at the helm of apple.

WickedRabbit

May 13, 2009, 09:30 AM

Good, at last we can see whether iPhone sales go really well without the appearance of Steve. But ,anyway ,come back soon , Jobs ,plz!!!!! We need you to fight back Zune HD and ZunePhone :o

I think people put way too much emphasis on how much one man affects the sales of a product. Regardless of whether or not Steve makes the next iPhone announcement it will sell just as well. You'd be surprised how many iPhone users have no clue who Steve Jobs even is.

The average consumer is not that well informed and despite what you may want to think, users of MacRumors would not fit in the category of "average" user particularly because you're scouring the web in search of new information, new product technology, etc. So don't associate all iPhone users with the people on this board. Another thing to consider: the average consumer greatly outnumbers the more informed consumer. Our numbers are small in bigger scheme of things.

The average consumer just waits to see a TV ad or hear about it from friends or will walk in to an AT&T store and ask the reps every damn day (trust me, I know this) and ask when the next iPhone is coming out.

Beyond that, though, it's smart business for Apple to not keep putting Steve Jobs in the spotlight because as we all know, anything negative related to Steve affects the company's stock because of how much emphasis the company puts on him. It's not in their best interest to keep him in the limelight when any day a news story about his health can change the stock ratings. They are just showing that regardless of whether or not he's "leading the way" the company will continue to run exactly the same regardless.

If Steve Jobs died tomorrow would you just stop buying Apple products or think less of them? I would hope not, as that would definitely shed a light of truth in regards to one of the Apple stigmas in a huge way (as we've seen in all the comedy sketches about Apple fans and how they follow Steve).

Tampa Tom

May 13, 2009, 09:31 AM

I hear from a doctor friend that he and Farrah Fawcett has approximately the same life expectancy: 2 months

Has Jobs been seen in public since he announced his sabattical?????

*LTD*

May 13, 2009, 09:33 AM

Guys, let go of Steve, already. Really.

If Steve returns, great, if not, life goes on. Apple goes on.

It could be much worse, anyway (Ballmer.)

agl82

May 13, 2009, 09:33 AM

Roessnakhan

May 13, 2009, 09:36 AM

Guys, let go of Steve, already. Really.

If Steve returns, great, if not, life goes on. Apple goes on.

It could be much worse, anyway (Ballmer.)

I agree - Apple has already done a great job getting the light off of Steve. When they introduce a product they focus on the designers, developers. It has given Mac more of a "family" company image than one of a sole icon.

SandynJosh

May 13, 2009, 09:36 AM

Yeah me too. The keynote I watched with Schiller was so duuuullll then again all he had to work with was iWork/iLife. Hardly fun city.

Hopefully this keynote'll be more interesting.

You want excitement!! You want someone hopping around on stage like a dancing monkey? You want someone screaming until their voice cracks?

Uhhh...he's busy manning the phone; selling Zune music subscriptions to the lemmings.

iPhoneNYC

May 13, 2009, 09:36 AM

I just want to see the new iPhone. My contract expires the end of June - like many, many others...

Sdancott

May 13, 2009, 09:37 AM

Geez, not "The Pig" again. Look at him, his physical appearance is disgusting.

That's horrible, not called for.

talkingfuture

May 13, 2009, 09:38 AM

I just want to see the new iPhone. My contract expires the end of June - like many, many others...

That is a good point, there will be a lot of people ready for an upgrade/new contract. The new iPhone has to be out so they don't loose any customers.

*LTD*

May 13, 2009, 09:38 AM

Uh-huh? And you have proof of this fact? I supposed he just decided to take a six-month vacation then? Face facts, he's extremely sick or he'd be speaking at WWDC. He had pancreatic cancer before and he has it now.

Either way, he just won approval to get that old house of his demolished. He's been fighting for that for some time now.

ditzy

May 13, 2009, 09:38 AM

Uh-huh? And you have proof of this fact? I supposed he just decided to take a six-month vacation then? Face facts, he's extremely sick or he'd be speaking at WWDC. He had pancreatic cancer before and he has it now.

I have disability, but shockingly enough, I've found that I'm not immune to the common cold.
Plus he's due back at the end of June. WWDC is at the beginning of June. If WWDC was in July and he didn't present then I'd be worried.

vito

May 13, 2009, 09:49 AM

Geez, not "The Pig" again. Look at him, his physical appearance is disgusting. There's no need to make derogatory comments like that, don't like the way he looks, tough

SandynJosh

May 13, 2009, 09:51 AM

Has everyone forgotten the presentation style of Jean-Louis Gassee? I liked that guy's stage presence!

alexbates

May 13, 2009, 09:53 AM

I really hope that Steve comes out at the end. Its been a long time since we have seen him.

CaryMacGuy

May 13, 2009, 09:54 AM

Call me crazy but I was actually impressed by Schiller's presentation at the 2009 Macworld. WWDC will probably be just as good. However, I don't expect to see anyone announce a next generation iPhone since that seems to be Steve's baby.

Perhaps we will see another special event from Apple in July announcing the final iPhone OS 3.0 software and a new generation phone to be released in August. Remember, they said "Summer" so technically they have from June 21 -Sept. 22 to release the software (and device) without being late.

Of course the July announcement will be Steve's grand reappearance as master of ceremonies.

Blue Fox

May 13, 2009, 09:58 AM

Well, that's a bit of a bummer if Steve isn't there in some way, shape or form. But hopefully the new products/news will outshine the presenter.

Lepton

May 13, 2009, 09:58 AM

ya I see no new iphone as well. The first hour will be an entire repetition of the last keynote (3.0 preview) 15min of which would be how push works (again). The second hour will be of snow leopard.
First Shiller will tell us how swell the business is going.

Next Shiller will show and demo Snow Leopard, give everybody a CD of it, and show the surprising new UI improvements.

Then Forrestal will tell us about 3.0. But, he will cover the stuff we know quickly, and introduce the stuff that was not mentioned, like video recording... on the new model phone. Then he will explain the features of the new phone. Then it's thank you for coming.

But, a voice says, there is one more thing. Then Steve comes out and introduces the NetPad tablet (http://www.myallo.com/blog/2008/12/apples-next-new-device/). Like iPod Touch, just as thin, 3 times bigger, no 3G voice, but WiFi and 3G DATA. Sold to all comers, works on AT&T, Verizon etc. AT&T keeps the monopoly on iPhone and voice calls, while the NetPad can surf the Net anywhere (and do VOIP over WiFi only). Runs all App Store apps. Coming in Q3. Then Steve will announce his blood pressure and it's over.

That's why the announcement to developers that all apps require 3.0 compatibility. That's what the NetPad will run, and they need to make the key claim that all App Store apps will run on it.. And there will be WWDC sessions about it.

Schizoid

May 13, 2009, 09:59 AM

I hear from a docter friend that he and Farrah Fawcett has approximately the same life expectancy: 2 months

Has Jobs been seen in public since he announced his sabattical?????

Yes, let's hear more from this "docter"... does anyone else he knows feel a bit poorly? Maybe the Pope has swine flu, or Lee Majors has toothache?
170876

lazyrighteye

May 13, 2009, 09:59 AM

Phil will introduce the new iPhone at WWDC.
Steve will return for a separate event at the end of June to introduce the tablet.

While there are certainly some long overdue features coming to the next iPhone, with several in line for the new device, physically it will not look much different than today's 3G. same face, same scratch-prone bevel (unfortunately) but they'll ditch the glossy plastic back in favor of a more rubberized case (think Incase's soft touch Slider (http://goincase.com/products/detail/slider-case-cl59055)).

The iPhone announcement is not big/flashy enough for Steve. But the tablet announcement will be huge. I also feel once the tablet is alive and in the world, Steve will step down at the end of the year.

Malcster

May 13, 2009, 09:59 AM

I really hope that Steve comes out at the end. Its been a long time since we have seen him.

First thing i thought when reading this was, i bet he comes out at the 'one more thing' at the end with the new iPhone, that would bring the house down.

Malcster

May 13, 2009, 10:01 AM

The iPhone announcement is not big/flashy enough for Steve. But the tablet announcement will be huge. I also feel once the tablet is alive and in the world, Steve will step down at the end of the year.

Disagree, the iPhone is Steves baby. He wouldn't let anyone else introduce it.

AlexJayPhillips

May 13, 2009, 10:01 AM

Schiller is a douche

polaris20

May 13, 2009, 10:02 AM

My prediction (which is based on nothing but my imagination)?

Schiller: "Oh and one more thing"

*out walks a healthy Jobs with the new Apple iPad/iNewton/iPod Touch Jumbo

polaris20

May 13, 2009, 10:05 AM

Geez, not "The Pig" again. Look at him, his physical appearance is disgusting.

How incredibly superficial of you to say that. So I guess no one's worth anything to you unless they're thin and attractive? :rolleyes:

rockstarjoe

May 13, 2009, 10:08 AM

The Simpsons references in this thread have been pure comedy gold!

I don't think we'll be seeing Steve for a while. Even if he is "better" he probably doesn't look so great, and with Apple image is pretty important. Maybe he will return to the company in July but it will probably be a long time before he does another keynote presentation.

CaryMacGuy

May 13, 2009, 10:09 AM

Schiller is a douche

The fact of the matter is...this are all business executives (even Steve). These are not rock stars, gods, or anything other than a very rich human being.

Sure, Steve Jobs has been credited for some amazing products. However, it was not all him and it is time that people give credit where credit is due.

Jonny Ive probably has more to do with the design of these products than Steve does. I am sure he signs off on them but he doesn't design them. Phil Schiller is in charge of marketing. All those great ads you see on TV probably were approved by Schiller ultimately.

This is a big company with TONs of employees and every one of them brings something to the table.

One day Steve Jobs will not be the CEO anymore (and why should he?). He will retire just like everybody wants to do and begin that part of his life. During this last 12 years, I think the correct mind set and culture has been established at Apple to ensure success going forward.

Sure we will miss Steve Jobs but he is just guy.

Roessnakhan

May 13, 2009, 10:09 AM

How incredibly superficial of you to say that. So I guess no one's worth anything to you unless they're thin and attractive? :rolleyes:

Full of Win is a huge fan of pancreatic cancer.

markpalmer

May 13, 2009, 10:09 AM

Geez, not "The Pig" again. Look at him, his physical appearance is disgusting.

So you judge people on their appearance rather than their ability. So I guess your a super handsome guy with ***** for brains.

danb77

May 13, 2009, 10:10 AM

Phil will introduce the new iPhone at WWDC.
Steve will return for a separate event at the end of June to introduce the tablet.

And your source is?!

Or are you just guessing like the rest of us! :-p

CaryMacGuy

May 13, 2009, 10:10 AM

How incredibly superficial of you to say that. So I guess no one's worth anything to you unless they're thin and attractive? :rolleyes:

I second that...

JGowan

May 13, 2009, 10:11 AM

hmm, why can't Tim Cook do it? Since he is already filling in for Steve, it would make more sense for Tim to give the keynote over Phil...That actually makes no sense (sorry)… You don't replace Steve with one guy.

Cook is filling in for Steve as CEO in running the company. He's the money man and understands all of the financial part of it (which is typically his role anyway). Tim Cook probably is not as familiar with all of Snow Leopard's ins and outs and with Developers needs to try and jump in and do that too.

He understands $ and ¢. THAT'S his role.

Schiller, Steve feels, is the best one to do the keynote so I trust that decision. Schiller's done a number of them now and if SJ felt he wasn't doing a good enough job, we'd have seen somebody else by now.

Saladinos

May 13, 2009, 10:12 AM

I'm not really bothered. Steve delegated most of the presentation away anyway
Schiller's a little more awkward, Forstall is incredibly boring. It's hard to take over from SJ and they're trying
Product sales do not depend on Steve Jobs: They depend on the product. You only going to buy an iPhone if SJ presented it?
SJ isn't going to appear like a stage assistant at the end. That's way too much of an ego trip. I doubt he'd feel comfortable with it or that it sends the right message.
Schiller's appearance is fine. A little overweight perhaps, but certainly not obese or difficult to look at. He's a little overweight the same way your old dad is.

AeroUK

May 13, 2009, 10:13 AM

I think the will make a video call using the new front facing camera and Steve will be at home using his 3.0 software! (Or something along those lines).

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CaryMacGuy

May 13, 2009, 10:16 AM

You only going to buy an iPhone if SJ presented it?

Nope, I bought it because "There's an app for that!"

Sehnsucht

May 13, 2009, 10:17 AM

I'm still pulling for Ive. He's quiet and reserved, which is needed. Schiller is...I dunno...fruity. He almost reminds me of a religious televangelist. Just put him in a white suit behind a pulpit and there you go. :D

But whatever. ;)

michael.lauden

May 13, 2009, 10:18 AM

And your source is?!

Or are you just guessing like the rest of us! :-p

NOEE ITS TRU!1111

Saladinos

May 13, 2009, 10:20 AM

The fact of the matter is...this are all business executives (even Steve). These are not rock stars, gods, or anything other than a very rich human being.

Sure, Steve Jobs has been credited for some amazing products. However, it was not all him and it is time that people give credit where credit is due.

Jonny Ive probably has more to do with the design of these products than Steve does. I am sure he signs off on them but he doesn't design them. Phil Schiller is in charge of marketing. All those great ads you see on TV probably were approved by Schiller ultimately.

This is a big company with TONs of employees and every one of them brings something to the table.

One day Steve Jobs will not be the CEO anymore (and why should he?). He will retire just like everybody wants to do and being that part of his life. During this last 12 years, I think the correct mind set and culture has been established at Apple to ensure success going forward.

Sure we will miss Steve Jobs but he is just guy.

Steve is actually known to be very hands-on, so the products and ultimately the success of Apple has been influenced by him. There are two types of CEOs: financial CEOs, who look after the company from a financial perspective or product CEOs, who are hands-on and see and comment on products throughout each stage of their development. Steve defines the role of a product CEO.

Naturally Apple 'supporters' are eager for him to return - the company's no-compromise strategy is a result of his influence when founding the company, and he's been responsible for a product strategy that returned Apple to health and made it one of the most profitable companies in the computer industry. And let's not forget that Apple only started to decline when Steve left. People now associate Apple's health with Steve.

jaw04005

May 13, 2009, 10:20 AM

Tim Cook probably is not as familiar with all of Snow Leopard's ins and outs and with Developers needs to try and jump in and do that too.

You're selling Cook short if you think he's just in charge of finances.

If you read Cook's executive bio at Apple.com, he's in charge of the entire Macintosh division (as part of his regular job). I'm sure he's well aware of Snow Leopard's features.

However, traditionally product demonstrations are made by marketing executives, not CEOs. Apple was an unusual case, as Jobs' preferred that role.

It's not a surprise that Apple's Sr. VP of Marketing is giving a software/product keynote.

TheSpaz

May 13, 2009, 10:22 AM

I like this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Forstall)! (in a non-sexual way of course)

Roessnakhan

May 13, 2009, 10:26 AM

I like this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Forstall)! (in a non-sexual way of course)

He seemed really forced in his 3.0 presentation. I like Phil, he seems more down to earth.

heisetax

May 13, 2009, 10:27 AM

I'm starting to lose interest on who leads whatever keynote, I just care about whats being presented. A little disappointed because it feels as if Snow Leopard is even farther from where I had hoped it would be released

If you are still running one of the great PPC Macs your opinion would be, "so what." System 10.5 is finally getting to be where it should have been by 10.5.1.

With a couple of years to just make 10.5 better & then call it 10.6, there should be no problems with this system as there has been in the past. But then, the shipment of 10.6 has not happened yet. Is that to make it better or why?

Full of Win

May 13, 2009, 10:28 AM

So you judge people on their appearance rather than their ability. So I guess your a super handsome guy with ***** for brains.

Yes, I do judge people by their appearance. I suspect so does everyone else. Its basic animal behavior to judge based on appearance. If you want to debate this point we can, but my degree is in Biology and I can back this up if you like.

Did not say that I was better looking. Just because I pointed out the obvious, e.g. rolls of fat handing off his body, does not mean I can a run a four minute mile or am special in anyway.

All I ask for is someone with enough person respect and self dignity that that can stay within their respective BMI range, except in extreme situations when the amount of muscle contributes so much that the index is rendered useless.

It personally offends me to see someone like this. It speaks to what is wrong in America.

puffnstuff

May 13, 2009, 10:28 AM

my vote is for Ives he has the charisma and it would make sense for the designer to present

HLdan

May 13, 2009, 10:28 AM

Ugh.

Phil freaking Schiller.

That's kinda mean. Could you do any better? Honestly trying to follow the footsteps of someone like Steve Jobs who has become RockStar status in the computing/multimedia world is very challenging to uphold. It's easy for any of Microsoft's execs to do keynotes behind Gates because Gates was always boring. Nobody looked forward to him stepping on the stage.

nick9191

May 13, 2009, 10:29 AM

Schiller is the man. He's a nice guy to meet as well so I'm told.

And there is every possibility that Jobs will return. Even if he returned before WWDC, he still might want to let the keynote go to Phil. A keynote in front of thousands of people is an extremely stressful thing, even if you've been doing them as long as Steve has.

Willis

May 13, 2009, 10:30 AM

You're selling Cook short if you think he's just in charge of finances.

If you read Cook's executive bio at Apple.com, he's in charge of the entire Macintosh division (as part of his regular job). I'm sure he's well aware of Snow Leopard's features.

However, traditionally product demonstrations are made by marketing executives, not CEOs. Apple was an unusual case, as Jobs' preferred that role.

It's not a surprise that Apple's Sr. VP of Marketing is giving a software/product keynote.

Jobs has always been a salesman though. Sure he did do some developing in the early days, but he had the charisma non other the others had.

sam10685

May 13, 2009, 10:31 AM

And AAPL stock starts to fall rapidly... ;)

SELL, SELL, SELL all you money grubbing cheap-skates. Good lord... makes me sick.

jholzner

May 13, 2009, 10:31 AM

Uh-huh? And you have proof of this fact? I supposed he just decided to take a six-month vacation then? Face facts, he's extremely sick or he'd be speaking at WWDC. He had pancreatic cancer before and he has it now.

Well, I have just about as much proof as you do saying he does. Oh and in July of last year he said it hadn't returned.

Have you actually followed this story at all? His weight loss is an issue and a medical one but it has nothing to do with caner. Besides, no one knew he had it the first time around and he didn't lose any weight then so I'd guess that a recurrence would also not cause weight loss.

iZac

May 13, 2009, 10:33 AM

Steves announcement of his 6 month leave of absence was in early January, so i personally wasn’t expecting to hear anything until early July?

pdoggy

May 13, 2009, 10:33 AM

DELLsFan

May 13, 2009, 10:35 AM

Ugh, really? :rolleyes:

If not El Jobso, what about Jonathan Ive?

Hell, they should just let me do it... :D

I'm still pulling for Ive. He's quiet and reserved, which is needed. Schiller is...I dunno...fruity. He almost reminds me of a religious televangelist. Just put him in a white suit behind a pulpit and there you go. :D

But whatever. ;)

my vote is for Ives he has the charisma and it would make sense for the designer to present

+1 vote for Jony Ives. I just like the man and admire his talent. If he's a little reserved, fine ... work on it ... He'd be a great speaker, people like him ... and I can think of no one better to become CEO, really.

:apple:

bbtrinet

May 13, 2009, 10:38 AM

That is a good point, there will be a lot of people ready for an upgrade/new contract. The new iPhone has to be out so they don't loose any customers.

Because of the mentality of some of these posts, I can imagine the following scenerio:

Someone's iPhone contract expires on July 1. Oh No! They then buy a new Verizon phone or something for a 2 year contract. On July 7, Apple announces a new iPhone.

They then complain that Apple should pay for them to get out of their contract with Verizon - because they had no clue a new iPhone was coming out.

People, your iPhone will STILL WORK after your 2 year contract is up. You can just pay month-to-month until a new iPhone comes out.

gugy

May 13, 2009, 10:41 AM

not good.
I hope Steve is doing well.
Get back soon man.

sushi

May 13, 2009, 10:41 AM

Anyway, I stand by my belief that Phil will announce a one more thing a Steve will walk onto the stage looking a lot better and possibly holding a new device!
I like Phil. Glad to see that he is doing the presentation.

While I don't think that it will happen, I would love to see SJ come on stage with the one more thing and that be the tablet.

Two weeks ago, Jobs let his lawyer go to the Woodside Town Council meeting to argue on his behalf about his house demolition permit. Not interesting, except for what the lawyer told the council about why he wasn't there:

"I don't think he would be strong enough if we were here until 1 a.m."

This house thing is a big deal for Jobs & he would have been there if he could have. He's definitely not 100% yet.
Obviously you don't understand how to use a lawyer.

SJ while interested, probably did not want to attend and figured that he lawyer could do it for him. Which it looks like he did. Typical executive way of doing things.

My prediction (which is based on nothing but my imagination)?

Schiller: "Oh and one more thing"

*out walks a healthy Jobs with the new Apple iPad/iNewton/iPod Touch Jumbo
That would be cool.

Looking forward to seeing Snow Leopard.

Believe that we'll see info about the new iPhone.

We may see a tablet type device.

SJ is on leave until the end of June. So it makes perfect sense that he would not be at the WWDC as a presenter or even make a guest appearance.

guzhogi

May 13, 2009, 10:45 AM

Because of the mentality of some of these posts, I can imagine the following scenerio:

Someone's iPhone contract expires on July 1. Oh No! They then buy a new Verizon phone or something for a 2 year contract. On July 7, Apple announces a new iPhone.

They then complain that Apple should pay for them to get out of their contract with Verizon - because they had no clue a new iPhone was coming out.

People, your iPhone will STILL WORK after your 2 year contract is up. You can just pay month-to-month until a new iPhone comes out.

Does AT&T/Apple even allow you to get month-to-month for the iPhone?

PurdueBio

May 13, 2009, 10:45 AM

Looking forward to "Marble" in Snow Leopard.

I thought it was called, "Blue Steel"?

bbtrinet

May 13, 2009, 10:48 AM

Does AT&T/Apple even allow you to get month-to-month for the iPhone?

Yes. Once your 2-year contract is up, you can go month-to-month.

You can't get it from the beginning of your contract, but once you fulfill your 2-year contract, you'll still automatically get service and bills each month. Keep paying them until you decide to cancel, or buy another iPhone to get hit with another 2-year contract.

sponson

May 13, 2009, 10:50 AM

Just imagine how "Full of Win" would respond to Stephen Hawking on the stage. I thought computers were cerebral products, meant to liberate us from physical considerations.

ditzy

May 13, 2009, 10:51 AM

Yes, I do judge people by their appearance. I suspect so does everyone else. Its basic animal behavior to judge based on appearance. If you want to debate this point we can, but my degree is in Biology and I can back this up if you like.

Did not say that I was better looking. Just because I pointed out the obvious, e.g. rolls of fat handing off his body, does not mean I can a run a four minute mile or am special in anyway.

All I ask for is someone with enough person respect and self dignity that that can stay within their respective BMI range, except in extreme situations when the amount of muscle contributes so much that the index is rendered useless.

It personally offends me to see someone like this. It speaks to what is wrong in America.

Unless what is offending you is doing you or someone else around you harm, it is common courtesy to keep said opinions to ones self.

agl82

May 13, 2009, 10:56 AM

interestedabit

May 13, 2009, 11:03 AM

Farah Fawcett doesn't have pancreatic cancer.

macinfojunkie

May 13, 2009, 11:10 AM

The main thing I am interested in SL is the UI :p. Then I will read about all the other features, but I am interested in what it looks like.

That's quite common for Apple products I think :D

BRLawyer

May 13, 2009, 11:15 AM

What a boatload of ******** about SJ's health...the "pundits" and "doctor friends" know as much as the little kid working for Santa Claus in Rovaniemi; to read 5 pages of this? Now THAT's what is boring...

t0mat0

May 13, 2009, 11:26 AM

I see no new iPhone at WWDC.

ya I see no new iphone as well. The first hour will be an entire repetition of the last keynote (3.0 preview) 15min of which would be how push works (again). The second hour will be of snow leopard.

But yes I as well believe another keynote perhaps in August detailing the new iphone and it's release in September.

Just lost my eagerness

If Jobs is ok: He'll present the iPhone in July-September. He could be in the crowd at WWDC. They could drop that a new handset is coming, and that it'll demo soon, and that'd whip up the press machine.

The OS 3.0 is a big deal. Apple could easily have 2 events - WWDC and a separate announcement of new iPhone.

Bear in mind it was over 60 minutes (80?) before we got to the iPhone 3G last year. Apple has got a lot to get through - I think we should be happy that they've got so much to talk about! People got miffed about the App Store being raved about when it was initially talked about - 1 year on - It's one of the key selling points of the platform.

If v3 iPhone has some more features that more link to Snow Leopard - they could do a joint release later on, when they're both ready. We'll see...

The earliest any UK contract will run out is Christmas this year, right? What's the date in the US?

alabanco

May 13, 2009, 11:29 AM

Could anyone explain why they make Schiller to do the keynote.

What about Johnny Ive. Isn't he the right person to do the keynote if Steeve is out and might no longer present things ? Steeve is original - I admit that but Ive is just that original man.

Schiller looks like Balmer and makes all think different thing to nothing.

I vote for Johnny Ive.

dolphin842

May 13, 2009, 11:31 AM

Sad not to see Steve as host... but I will still download the podcast and throw it up on the big screen TV nonetheless.

ob81

May 13, 2009, 11:34 AM

I really wanted Jobs to go out like Bill Gates. Sad to see him nearing the end of his stint on the wayside. Apple is letting his image float around the company as long as possible. They need to officially announce his retirement and get on with making good products.

iGeRmAn

May 13, 2009, 11:35 AM

I do not hope this site will be renamed : SJrumors.com

Doesn't the C in WWDC mean conference ?
Or is it concert ?

I think it's about the products, not the folks presenting them.

If there will be a new iPhone version this year, i don't think you will be feeling better when buying and using it neither by it's presentation nor who did it.

zub3qin

May 13, 2009, 11:35 AM

Apple is headed for a disaster with this WWDC--- and they know it.

Keep in mind that WWDC is coming on the heels of the Palm Pre release and the reported MS Zune Phone.... say what you will about each product, but they will steal significant thunder from Apple.

And the Palm Pre may be the iPhone killer, after all.

Rumors suggest minimal changes in iPhone hardware- maybe video recording, a 3mp camera, and a compass... but same screen/form factor/design. Before people argue that the phone is so good that nothing needs to be changed, just remember that tech fans want something NEW-- and this device as good as it is, is stagnating, and others are playing catch up, and Palm Pre may have surpassed the iPhone.

Of course iPhone firmware 3.0 will be coming out, but it will not come out at WWDC-- just more info on it wil be released. They are shooting for summer- meaning September.

So what you will be left with is a WWDC, with no Steve Jobs, a lackluster keynote with Phil, no significant change to the iPhone, no firmware release - and newer flashier competitors devices being released around the same time. Oh yeah, and Snow Leopard will be shown, which will be largely under the hood changes, by Apple's own admission, and no significant User Interface changes or bells and whistles to the casual consumer. Snow Leopard isn't the type of thing that is going to generate more press - except in the geeky computer journals.

Apple needs a hail mary pass- so if there is a new tablet style device- it needs to be shown at WWDC.

OR Apple needs to release the new iPhone that day.
OR Apple needs to release 3.0 firmware that day.... hopefully it will be bug free.

Otherwise, this Keynote is going to be a disaster.

Roessnakhan

May 13, 2009, 11:39 AM

Of course iPhone firmware 3.0 will be coming out, but it will not come out at WWDC-- just more info on it wil be released. They are shooting for summer- meaning September.

Wait... what?

Full of Win

May 13, 2009, 11:40 AM

Unless what is offending you is doing you or someone else around you harm, it is common courtesy to keep said opinions to ones self.

You're aware we are on the internet? The idea of keeping ones opinions to themselves in this context is laughable.

GeekLawyer

May 13, 2009, 11:48 AM

You're aware we are on the internet? The idea of keeping ones opinions to themselves in this context is laughable.

I was unaware that being on the internet would obviate the benefits of decorum and social grace. To target Phil Schiller due to a bulging waistline is petty and has no place in a legitimate discussion of Apple's forthcoming products. Shame. Do want you want, obviously. I'm sure poor taste isn't against the MR terms of use. In this, you're full of something other than win. IMHO, of course.

queshy

May 13, 2009, 11:52 AM

Makes sense that Jobs won't be giving the keynote. The keynotes take a LONG time to prepare. If Steve was only supposed to be BACK at the end of June, how would he have time to prepare a keynote? Schiller has probably been preparing for the keynote for the past few weeks already.

netdog

May 13, 2009, 11:54 AM

Seriously, I lurk on this site to see if the latest OS update is ok etc and never post because I don't have time. But I've taken the time to log in and comment today because I'm repulsed by the ghoulish, "i have a friend who is a 'docter'" type speculation that Steve Jobs is near death etc on this thread. Anonymous posters trying to bignote themselves on a technology rumors site by predicting the death of someone who has probably achieved more in a few months of sick leave than you have in a lifetime? What kind of lives do people who spread these rumors lead? I think i can guess.

If you really believe Steve is terminally ill, show some respect instead of spreading rumors to impress people on a website forum. If you do have 'inside knowledge' take a good look at the people telling you this stuff and have a think about why they would tell you this kind of information. They're also trying to bignote themselves because they're losers as well. And mentioning Farrah Fawcett? Is this Entertainment Tonight? Just appalling. Especially how she says the media speculation has made it so much harder to go through what she's going through. Ask a real 'docter' about her type of cancer and what she's experiencing.

Clearly these people here spreading this 'information' have never watched a loved one die of cancer, or they're just heartless people. I watched my father-in-law die of pancreatic cancer – he would be around the same age as Steve if he was alive now. His was inoperable. No chance of a whipple procedure etc. for him. Twelve months of hell before death after diagnosis. If Steve is going through the same thing, may whatever god he prays to have mercy on him.

As for the people spreading this stuff. Take a good, long hard look at yourselves. Become a better person and earn some self-respect, because at the moment you look like self-loathing **********.

Actually, the friends who suggested this to me weren't trying to aggrandize themselves in telling me. We discussed it over dinner. I am not trying to aggrandize myself either.

I have the greatest respect for Steve Jobs, as well as gratitude for the great technology he has enabled us all with.

My hope is that Steve remains in good health. Whether or not he continues to run Apple would be secondary in my mind, even though I don't know the guy and believe that his departure from Apple would suggest to me that Apple has already reached its zenith, whereas under him, the sky is the limit.

As for your rather holier-than-thou post, this is a rumors site, and that's the rumor that I heard. I didn't post it to somehow rise in stature or accrue any status. This is just a place to talk about Apple and their products to me, not the community in which I live. Get a life.

gathart

May 13, 2009, 11:55 AM

bbtrinet

May 13, 2009, 11:56 AM

Apple is headed for a disaster with this WWDC--- and they know it.

This is a DEVELOPER'S CONFERENCE. It's not a press release for new hardware - this is mainly for developers and to give a roadmap/timetable for what future software releases will come. I fully expect them to announce something like iPhone OS 3.0 will be released on some such date like June 25. And I expect a new iPhone to be released on the same day, or near this date. And because the new OS has features in it such as a compass, I fully expect more details about the new phone to come out, but not necessarily a demo of the new phone.

Keep in mind that WWDC is coming on the heels of the Palm Pre release and the reported MS Zune Phone.... say what you will about each product, but they will steal significant thunder from Apple.

Yes. They will all get press. Maybe the Palm Pre will be better SPEC wise, maybe the MS Zune phone will be better SPEC wise. I fully expect the iPhone to still win out on user experience and the AppStore. There is no way that in by the end of the year either the MS Zune or Palm Pre will have as developed an AppStore as the iPhone. The phones themselves might be better, but there would still be competition.

And the Palm Pre may be the iPhone killer, after all.

It's not just specs anymore - but the AppStore will encourage sales of the iPhone - something that the Palm Pre can't do yet.

Rumors suggest minimal changes in iPhone hardware- maybe video recording, a 3mp camera, and a compass... but same screen/form factor/design. Before people argue that the phone is so good that nothing needs to be changed, just remember that tech fans want something NEW-- and this device as good as it is, is stagnating, and others are playing catch up, and Palm Pre may have surpassed the iPhone.

Again - you're right - maybe the SPECS are better on the PalmPre, but SPECS aren't the only thing that sells phones.

Of course iPhone firmware 3.0 will be coming out, but it will not come out at WWDC-- just more info on it wil be released. They are shooting for summer- meaning September.

My gut is that the iPhone 3.0 OS will be released late June / early July along with the phone. My reasoning is that Apple is only allowing submissions of iPhone 3.0 apps to the app store. They are no longer allowing submissions of old 2.x apps.

So what you will be left with is a WWDC, with no Steve Jobs, a lackluster keynote with Phil, no significant change to the iPhone, no firmware release - and newer flashier competitors devices being released around the same time. Oh yeah, and Snow Leopard will be shown, which will be largely under the hood changes, by Apple's own admission, and no significant User Interface changes or bells and whistles to the casual consumer. Snow Leopard isn't the type of thing that is going to generate more press - except in the geeky computer journals.

I completely disagree. YOU might not be happy with it, but I think DEVELOPERS will be, and I think the slight improvements will keep the iPhone on track. Plus, Apple just needs to have a big enough improvement for iPhone 1 users, whose contracts are ending soon, to buy another iPhone instead of keeping their current one.

Apple needs a hail mary pass- so if there is a new tablet style device- it needs to be shown at WWDC.

This is a DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE - this is NOT a hardware conference like MacWorld is/was. I think a tablet-type device might be shown at the end of 2009 or beginning of 2010.

OR Apple needs to release the new iPhone that day.
OR Apple needs to release 3.0 firmware that day.... hopefully it will be bug free.

Otherwise, this Keynote is going to be a disaster.

To naysayers, it might be. To realists, I think it will be a good show.

netdog

May 13, 2009, 12:02 PM

My prediction (which is based on nothing but my imagination)?

Schiller: "Oh and one more thing"

*out walks a healthy Jobs with the new Apple iPad/iNewton/iPod Touch Jumbo

That would be a happy moment indeed.

srl7741

May 13, 2009, 12:04 PM

Jayomat

May 13, 2009, 12:04 PM

again 7 pages of steve-related speculations..? zzzZzz

BornAgainMac

May 13, 2009, 12:09 PM

Who is this Steve Jobs?

The Captain Kirk of our generation.

stevepeck

May 13, 2009, 12:09 PM

netdog

May 13, 2009, 12:15 PM

The lphone is okay but come on, to expensive and good for what?

It is the Internet in my pocket. I could never go back to using another phone. Only ahead when there is something better, and there isn't right now.

The real unsung hero to me is the Touch. What an amazing little device.

Thank you Steve! It never would have been what it is without his leadership and his insistence that the software be the heart of the device. He got it right where all the phone companies had it wrong.

Roessnakhan

May 13, 2009, 12:17 PM

Used to watch these boring keynote speeches.
Stopped when Jobs introduced the lPhone and said reference the touch controls
" And have we patent it, of cause we have"
l laughed to myself and said tell that to Nokia and Samsung.
The lphone is okay but come on, to expensive and good for what? playing games on now, jesus get a Nintendo Ds and a real Phone with a descent camera that can video etc..Apple is so far far behind times.

For me its just having an all-in-one device. It also has one of the better-rendering mobile browsers.

dissdnt

May 13, 2009, 12:18 PM

I think Jobs will be there and probably intro the new iPhone and leave.

Macmoney

May 13, 2009, 12:18 PM

Does not matter who speaks...you guys are nic-pickers.
If the product is hot it will sell itself.

emdezet

May 13, 2009, 12:19 PM

str1f3

May 13, 2009, 12:20 PM

So, who will release their latest and greatest first (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=700048)?

Love your avatar...motorboat...LOL

polaris20

May 13, 2009, 12:22 PM

Used to watch these boring keynote speeches.
Stopped when Jobs introduced the lPhone and said reference the touch controls
" And have we patent it, of cause we have"
l laughed to myself and said tell that to Nokia and Samsung.
The lphone is okay but come on, to expensive and good for what? playing games on now, jesus get a Nintendo Ds and a real Phone with a descent camera that can video etc..Apple is so far far behind times.

Do you mean too expensive? Have you checked the price of HTC handsets lately? Google G1? Storm?

And if the only thing you use in terms of apps is gaming, that's fine. But it can do far more than just that.

happydude

May 13, 2009, 12:22 PM

And AAPL stock starts to fall rapidly... ;)

the whole market is tanking today, so apple is just following suit. though, i wouldn't be surprised if the geniuses on wallstreet took this into effect for apple's stock in particular.

this makes sense. steve coming back in june doesn't mean he's going to be spending the month of may getting only 4 hours of sleep per night preparing for this thing. he's advising behind the scenes and will make sure the program is ready without having to be the one demoing and conducting everything.

get better steve!! the next 20 years is way more important that if you make this one keynote or not!!

SandynJosh

May 13, 2009, 12:25 PM

Schiller looks like Balmer and ...

Ah, but can he dance like a man with his pants full of hornets?

Without Jobs, Apple should get a "spokesperson" with great stage presence. The current crop of top end employees just don't have what Jobs has. Remember the iconic 1984 commercial...Jobs didn't throw the hammer, it was an unknown with presence. The world is full of people that are skilled in establishing presence and attention in front of a crowd. They can learn the lines and do a performance worthy of a Steve Jobs substitute.

str1f3

May 13, 2009, 12:27 PM

Is there nothing in the wings for the MacBook after 8 months?
Are Apple actually waiting for Q3's nextgen processors to revamp anything?
No +0.2GHz or +100GB in June? :confused:

What about FireWire 800 coming to the 13" unibody? Mac mini has it!
It's a disgrace! And marketing-speak will not blind me from this either. :mad:

It may be an issue with space. When I saw iFixit take it apart,it looked pretty crowded in there. If they were to put firewire in there, my guess would be FW800. 400 seems so unnecessary.

If Jobs were not to give it, I would prefer Ive, but Schiller did a good job at Macworld with what he had. Can't wait to see Snow Leopard!

starflyer

May 13, 2009, 12:28 PM

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Seriously, I lurk on this site to see if the latest OS update is ok etc and never post because I don't have time. But I've taken the time to log in and comment today because I'm repulsed by the ghoulish, "i have a friend who is a 'docter'" type speculation that Steve Jobs is near death etc on this thread. Anonymous posters trying to bignote themselves on a technology rumors site by predicting the death of someone who has probably achieved more in a few months of sick leave than you have in a lifetime? What kind of lives do people who spread these rumors lead? I think i can guess.

If you really believe Steve is terminally ill, show some respect instead of spreading rumors to impress people on a website forum. If you do have 'inside knowledge' take a good look at the people telling you this stuff and have a think about why they would tell you this kind of information. They're also trying to bignote themselves because they're losers as well. And mentioning Farrah Fawcett? Is this Entertainment Tonight? Just appalling. Especially how she says the media speculation has made it so much harder to go through what she's going through. Ask a real 'docter' about her type of cancer and what she's experiencing.

Clearly these people here spreading this 'information' have never watched a loved one die of cancer, or they're just heartless people. I watched my father-in-law die of pancreatic cancer – he would be around the same age as Steve if he was alive now. His was inoperable. No chance of a whipple procedure etc. for him. Twelve months of hell before death after diagnosis. If Steve is going through the same thing, may whatever god he prays to have mercy on him.

As for the people spreading this stuff. Take a good, long hard look at yourselves. Become a better person and earn some self-respect, because at the moment you look like self-loathing **********.

Steve? Is that you?

Pugpuppydude

May 13, 2009, 12:34 PM

Me want Jobs.

iGeRmAn

May 13, 2009, 12:36 PM

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Steve? Is that you?

Exactly what i thought ;)

CoffeeMonkey

May 13, 2009, 12:42 PM

Article link (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/05/13wwdc.html)[/QUOTE]

Why is Phyllis Diller giving the WWDC Keynote?

Eyedn

May 13, 2009, 12:48 PM

How incredibly superficial of you to say that. So I guess no one's worth anything to you unless they're thin and attractive? :rolleyes:

Basically yes.

kornyboy

May 13, 2009, 12:58 PM

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I was really hoping to see Steve back to deliver the keynote. I look forward to seeing what they have in store. Phil does a really good job with the keynotes he is a part of.

Darkroom

May 13, 2009, 12:59 PM

if he was on medical leave, WHY would people assume he would be giving the keynote? you don't just walk in and give you speech. like any stage show, the keynote takes weeks if not months of preparation and practice.

Yixian

May 13, 2009, 01:15 PM

Ugh.. Schiller. Jonathen Ive please.

Eric S.

May 13, 2009, 01:24 PM

Two weeks ago, Jobs let his lawyer go to the Woodside Town Council meeting to argue on his behalf about his house demolition permit. Not interesting, except for what the lawyer told the council about why he wasn't there:

"I don't think he would be strong enough if we were here until 1 a.m."

This house thing is a big deal for Jobs & he would have been there if he could have. He's definitely not 100% yet.

http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_t18/jobs-house-apple.html

I bet that the Woodside town council meeting is pretty low on Steve Jobs' priority list, and that the "he's too weak" is a convenient excuse to have his lawyer attend without him. If it had been his doctor making that statement it would have been more interesting.

I stand by my belief that Phil will announce a one more thing a Steve will walk onto the stage looking a lot better and possibly holding a new device!

That would certainly be a top moment in the annals of egotism.

I don't care who gives the speech. What's important is what is said.

KratosKilla

May 13, 2009, 01:50 PM

lazyrighteye

May 13, 2009, 02:11 PM

Disagree, the iPhone is Steves baby. He wouldn't let anyone else introduce it.

I hear you, but I think it's a "been there, done that" scenario for Steve. Everyone knows what an iPhone is. It's almost old news, in many ways. And I don't think physically, there is going to be anything so remarkably different about this release - combined with timing (read: they want to get this new iPhone out the door pronto) - that Steve doesn't feel a need to come back early to keynote. Phil can handle the iPhone announcement.
Now, if the new device happens to do vid chatting (I say not until 2010, earliest), I could see Phil "calling" Steve. But Phil can handle this announcement. Plus, this iPhone announcement is more about the OS than the hardware anyway. And Steve has always been a hardware guy.
Which is why he will introduce us to the tablet. No way he'd let anyone else take that spotlight. Which will be as bright as it gets.

SirROM

May 13, 2009, 02:11 PM

I think that Apple doesn't want to promise a Jobs Keynote when he might not be up to it. If they promised him and he didn't show up there would be rumors and hysteria. If he shows up it would be great. Apple might be playing it by ear.

Nope. Steve will not be there in any shape, form, or fashion. Apple knows what they are doing and Steve has purposefully removed himself from the spotlight for now.

These are the same people that know what great products are even before we do, so I think they know better how to handle this situation than any of us armchair pundits.

As to the iPhone, it will be the same as last year. The new OS will be reviewed with a new iPhone model debuted as well at WWDC. The phone itself will not be ready until the end of June or early July, but I think the software will be released within a week or two after WWDC (maybe even that day) to avoid the deluge of download and network issues there were the last two years. That will eliminate the bottleneck of activations when the new iPhone is released a couple of weeks later and the process will be smooth as it should have been before.

iCal me...

lazyrighteye

May 13, 2009, 02:14 PM

And your source is?!
Or are you just guessing like the rest of us! :-p

I have zero connections/source/people in elevators in China. ;)

sam10685

May 13, 2009, 02:25 PM

In this, you're full of something other than win. IMHO, of course.

Couldn't agree more. Never ceases to amaze me how rude some people can be on the internet.

billandy

May 13, 2009, 02:49 PM

I'm starting to lose interest on who leads whatever keynote, I just care about whats being presented. A little disappointed because it feels as if Snow Leopard is even farther from where I had hoped it would be released

no point releasing snow leopard now... it's optimised for multi-core and gpu vectoring, which will have its full effect shown on NEHALEM machines which won't come until Q3 this year and that's the time frame apple refresh their laptop lineup too.

not saying it won't work great with the latest unibody, certainly the unibody macbook(pro)s were designed with snow leopard in mind, but still that's on the soon-to-be-replaced nehalem architecture

aethelbert

May 13, 2009, 03:12 PM

I think that Apple doesn't want to promise a Jobs Keynote when he might not be up to it. If they promised him and he didn't show up there would be rumors and hysteria. If he shows up it would be great. Apple might be playing it by ear.
You don't play by ear for a significant presentation that is more than an hour long when you're less than a month out.

bretm

May 13, 2009, 03:37 PM

Uh-huh? And you have proof of this fact? I supposed he just decided to take a six-month vacation then? Face facts, he's extremely sick or he'd be speaking at WWDC. He had pancreatic cancer before and he has it now.

I'm sorry, but if he had it when he took his leave, well, he'd be dead. You don't live this long with Pancreatic cancer, unless it's the rare curable kind he had before. And he'd been getting skinnier for 6 months before he took his leave. That would be a record if he's had a reoccurrence for that long.

meagain

May 13, 2009, 04:37 PM

I want Ive to do the Keynote. I want him to say 'Alu-Minium'. A lot.

kas23

May 13, 2009, 04:48 PM

It's probably good Steve sits this one out. His presence would greatly eclipse the introduction of any new hardware or software. Apple is playing this one right. They need the spotlight on their products, not on Steve Jobs.

jaw04005

May 13, 2009, 05:09 PM

I just realized that Snow Leopard is going to be the first version of Mac OS X not previewed to the public by Steve Jobs.

agl82

May 13, 2009, 05:17 PM

badNameErr

May 13, 2009, 05:21 PM

Who gives the keynote isn't important. It's the content that matters.

Bring it on!

swagi

May 13, 2009, 05:31 PM

And why can't he have the "rare curable" kind again? All I'm saying is that all the doctors interviewed in the media and my friend who is an M.D. said that a "hormone imbalance" (Apple's diagnosis) would not cause the rapid weight loss that Steve experienced. Whether it's a return of pancreatic cancer is arguable, but my point was that Apple is covering up the truth again. I'm not an AAPL shareholder, but if I was I would be pissed.

...and I really am balantly pissed.

I'm not so pissed at a keynote, that is presented by Phil. Wake up guys, it's WWDC after all, so the main talk will be very technical about all the new Snow Leopard stuff, that is going to debut. Marble will take center stage, as will Grand Central and OpenCL (imagine a guest apperance by Intel or NVIDIA here). In other words - it's nerd-porn for developers, but very boring for the rest of us. As I said, hey it's WWDC. Get the meaning of the word 'developer' in there.

I am really really pissed, that all those FUD-sprayers come creeping out their holes and stert inflating stock price with their stupid "Steve is Apple and if he'd die, Apple is DOOMED!"-talk.

AFAIK Snow Leopard is not the "maintenance upgrade", Apple tries to make us belive. We will see significant changes in our computer experience, as PPC is officially declared dead.

And honestly I personally think that SL is rather polished by now, we will be blown away with Marble and the final developer builds without striped out content will hit the shelves. SL will sell August, so we sheep buy it. And it will be pre-installed with the notebook/iMac refresh due in Q3.

If Steve will ever return to the spotlight, he won't at a very technical keynote at WWDC, but rather takes the spotlight on some major hardware announcement. 3rd gen iPhone is not shiny enough (as is SL, as it still remains nerd porn), and the shiny stuff still isn't ready.

So could we return to bashing the FUD-talkers instead of bashing Steve, like he owed us a WWDC appearance?

chrisdazzo

May 13, 2009, 05:35 PM

If Apple is planning on tossing out those Nehalem-based Macbook Pros out to consumers this fall, I'll hold off on getting a new laptop 'til then. Should be exciting to see Snow Leopard's other features once WWDC comes around, though. Not a big supporter of a UI change, but Apple hasn't messed up much in the past afaik, so I think it'll work out in the end. Quicktime X is going to be cool. New iPhone (assuming the upgrade is worth it) is going to replace my 3G... That'll be interesting. :D Apple, Apple, Apple, what've you got in store for us, hmm?

METOO999

May 13, 2009, 06:38 PM

He reminds me of a big dull football coach/dad, not someone I'd like to watch on a keynote.

brad.c

May 13, 2009, 06:42 PM

It personally offends me to see someone like this. It speaks to what is wrong in America.

Really? A cruel, superficial judgement is more acceptable than Phil Schiller's physique? I think the fact you are offended by somebody else's BMI speaks more for what is wrong with society.

NT1440

May 13, 2009, 06:46 PM

While I do love Steve's style of presenting, I've been impressed by everyone Apple uses to present. Phil honestly seems enthusiastic and excited about showing us Apple's newest stuff. All the young guns have an air of genuine-ness to them that I enjoy, they seem really excited to be working there.

Full of Win

May 13, 2009, 06:46 PM

Who gives the keynote isn't important. It's the content that matters.

Bring it on!

Hate to disagree, but I kind of do. When the Pre was announced a few months ago, the content was as good as the iPhone, but felt myself looking at the clock half way through webcast. However, during the iPhone announcement, I watched it several times for the sheer stagecraft shown by Steve Jobs.

In short, don't underestimate the packaging. Sure content is important, but so is the packaging.

AppleNewton

May 13, 2009, 06:49 PM

just sent a 'Schill down my spine....:o

Looking forward to see whats up from Apple.....really cant wait to see whats in store for 3.0 and Snow Leopard

NT1440

May 13, 2009, 06:49 PM

Hate to disagree, but I kind of do. When the Pre was announced a few months ago, the content was as good as the iPhone, but felt myself looking at the clock half way through webcast. However, during the iPhone announcement, I watched it several times for the sheer stagecraft shown by Steve Jobs.

In short, don't underestimate the packaging. Sure content is important, but so is the packaging.
Did you watch Apple's last keynote? It rocked!

manhattanboy

May 13, 2009, 08:40 PM

And AAPL stock starts to fall rapidly... ;)

At they very least they should have COOKed up something yummy.
Instead they Phil us up with insignificants...

Bubba Satori

May 13, 2009, 09:29 PM

At they very least they should have COOKed up something yummy.
Instead they Phil us up with insignificants...

IVE got a feeling it's a tough JOB coming up with something great all the time.

brad.c

May 13, 2009, 09:43 PM

iWoz afraid it would come to this.

Prom1

May 13, 2009, 10:54 PM

Ugh.

Phil freaking Schiller.

My thoughts exactly. Love the profile picture.

And AAPL stock starts to fall rapidly... ;)

&

And here come the rumors of Steve Jobs' demise in 3...2...1...

Unfortunately you BOTH are almost spot on with timing and truth. Let's hope this missed appearance is on purpose to TEACH investors that are just in Apple for the cash & value that its not about the CEO alone that runs a company. Even the mighty and visionary Steve Jobs cannot live forever.

aaaa lets hope for a surprise kind of guest appearence during the keynote. ie. one more thing... and there is Steve healthy and all

This is the BEST idea for WWDC I've heard since Jobs temporary leave of absence. This would jump their stock another $15-30US and HOLD at that price in a matter of minutes. If not, for sure those lucrative investors will permanently - and possibly dangerously - tie Steve Jobs to Apple's stock price value. Even giving Jobs the ideal that he can live forever.

anjinha

May 13, 2009, 10:57 PM

I kind of expected this but I'm still disappointed. I miss Steve's keynotes. :(

Sehnsucht

May 13, 2009, 11:08 PM

I want Ive to do the Keynote. I want him to say 'Alu-Minium'. A lot.

Ha ha. :D

Bubba Satori

May 14, 2009, 12:20 AM

iWoz afraid it would come to this.

Hopefully the situation will AMELIOrate.

uspcommuter

May 14, 2009, 12:55 AM

One MORE Thing...I give you the Almighty...Steve Jobs!!!!!

::Crowd goes wild::

SJ: Guys still no iTablet...pb G5...etc etc but I am back in 4 weeks....

iMaggot

May 14, 2009, 01:06 AM

I still think we will see Jobs ;)

Apple Ink

May 14, 2009, 01:15 AM

Well... no Steve is one big disappointment!

Hope the whole event isnt as big a disappointment as MacWorld this year was <shudders>

Also hope the the MR live stream doesnt disappoint <trembles>

Sijmen

May 14, 2009, 01:36 AM

iWoz afraid it would come to this.

What? That would be great!

“Be built this new iPhone with 40% less chips! It's also a universal remote and I wrote this floppy driver that uses the cycles where the screen isn't drawing.”

iphones4evry1

May 14, 2009, 02:09 AM

aaaa lets hope for a surprise kind of guest appearence during the keynote. ie. one more thing... and there is Steve healthy and all

That's what I'm thinking. At the very end, after everything has been presented and someone is in the middle of talking on stage, Steve Jobs slowly walks onto the stage, while talking on a cell phone (and appears to be unaware of his surroundings), and then Steve is done with his call and casually says hello to the person on stage, and the person on stage says "what's that Steve?" and Steve says "what?" "That thing in your hand." Steve casually, unexcitedly says, "oh, that's the new iPhone." The other person says "WOW!!! REALLY???!!!! Can I see it? What's new?" And Steve shows him the phone, while the microphones and cameras capture it all. (in reality, the other exec literally has not seen the final product, and really is surprised)

dalvin200

May 14, 2009, 02:14 AM

That's what I'm thinking. At the very end, after everything has been presented and someone is in the middle of talking on stage, Steve Jobs slowly walks onto the stage, while talking on a cell phone (and appears to be unaware of his surroundings), and then Steve is done with his call and casually says hello to the person on stage, and the person on stage says "what's that Steve?" and Steve says "what?" "That thing in your hand." Steve casually, unexcitedly says, "oh, that's the new iPhone." The other person says "WOW!!! REALLY???!!!! Can I see it? What's new?" And Steve shows him the phone, while the microphones and cameras capture it all. (in reality, the other exec literally has not seen the final product, and really is surprised)

and then you wake up from your dream :p

celtikmind

May 14, 2009, 03:15 AM

Actually, the friends who suggested this to me weren't trying to aggrandize themselves in telling me. We discussed it over dinner. I am not trying to aggrandize myself either.

I have the greatest respect for Steve Jobs, as well as gratitude for the great technology he has enabled us all with.

My hope is that Steve remains in good health. Whether or not he continues to run Apple would be secondary in my mind, even though I don't know the guy and believe that his departure from Apple would suggest to me that Apple has already reached its zenith, whereas under him, the sky is the limit.

As for your rather holier-than-thou post, this is a rumors site, and that's the rumor that I heard. I didn't post it to somehow rise in stature or accrue any status. This is just a place to talk about Apple and their products to me, not the community in which I live. Get a life.

So, this would be where you 'hyde' then?

Steve's health is his business. You're a doctor, you of all should know that.

macuserx86

May 14, 2009, 03:34 AM

What about Bertrand Serlet? He did a demo a few WWDCs back that was really good, much better than Phil's efforts. So what if he has a thick French accent, he's the Senior Vice President of Software Engineering so he should at least do the Snow Leopard demo.

Riverbird

May 14, 2009, 04:30 AM

If Bertrand Serlet (ala "The Funny Frenchman") comes on stage then I am sorry to say that I'll be skipping that part of the presentation. I'm sure that he's very intelligent and this isn't anti-French, but his "let's take the piss out of Vista" section a few years back when he last made an appearance was about as entertaining as nails on a chalkboard.

I loved that! I think he is cool and is accent is quite cute. I would like to see him do keynotes. And I like Phil too. Steve can't stay at Apple forever. I know he will be back, but when it comes time for Steve to retire (if he ever does) Apple needs to get people used to other people doing the keynotes besides Steve Jobs.

Darkroom

May 14, 2009, 04:33 AM

Geez, not "The Pig" again. Look at him, his physical appearance is disgusting.

http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20090106/_MG_5995_610x406.JPG

WWDC != ANTM (http://www.cwtv.com/shows/americas-next-top-model12). this so-called "pig" is more intelligent, witty and successful than your dumb ass ever will be. wake up, troll.

Really? A cruel, superficial judgement is more acceptable than Phil Schiller's physique? I think the fact you are offended by somebody else's BMI speaks more for what is wrong with society.

/repost

MacAndy74

May 14, 2009, 04:47 AM

this so-called "pig" is more intelligent, witty and successful than your dumb ass ever will be. wake up, troll.

Very well said :cool:

I'd like to see Janathan Ive launch a new Mighty Mouse at WWDC *sigh*
My gut feeling 'one more thing' will be Steve Jobs returning to Apple and I hope, launching a new iPhone *dreams* and a new Quad Core iMac with a 2TB HDD. :o I can dream, can't I?

MacGuffin

May 14, 2009, 06:27 AM

Kiss the media pad hopes goodbye for now. No way they'll spring this without Jobsy.

Damn.

iGod 2.0

May 14, 2009, 06:58 AM

...I could probably understand MacWorld and how that went down, but not having Steve Jobs present WWDC!? That's just crazy. He is like the ringmaster of the whole damn organization. This is something that just doesn't seem like him. Maybe he will make a suprise appearance or something (he probably might present the new generation iPhone and/or the new tablet device that is stirring a buzz on the Internet and the the industry. He just can't cannot do the show or not even show up...

iGod 2.0

May 14, 2009, 07:04 AM

WWDC != ANTM (http://www.cwtv.com/shows/americas-next-top-model12). this so-called "pig" is more intelligent, witty and successful than your dumb ass ever will be. wake up, troll.

/repost

Ain't that the truth. Phil has knowledge man, pay some homage. All of us are just saying it doesn't seem like Steve to miss out on a major event like this. We're not ridiculing Phil. Listen to my homie here and take some advice - wake the hell up.

newConvert

May 14, 2009, 09:05 AM

zub3qin

May 14, 2009, 10:37 AM

Mal

May 14, 2009, 10:38 AM

Just a thought I had... does everyone one REALLY thing that product launches hinge on Steve? I for one dont really care who presents it, as long as its a good product. I would bet 99% of the people who buy apple products couldn't care less who presents the new products. Its just the hardcore fans on the message boards that it really matters too...

I dont think it matters...at all.. anyways just my opinion

I think Apple will be happy if people realize that. Steve brought the company back from near extinction, and he's a great speaker and innovator, and deserves a lot of credit. However, if he never came back to Apple, they would continue to produce incredible products and innovate and would continue to be a successful company (barring any really bad leadership getting in, of course). I want Steve to stick around for a long time, but I also hope they diversify their product launches even more, so people stop associating Apple with Steve Jobs, and instead associate them with really cool products more directly.

jW

themoonisdown09

May 14, 2009, 10:40 AM

Am I the only one that thinks that Phil reminds me of the "I'm a PC" guy in the mac commercials?

Yes.

SpitzerCR

May 14, 2009, 11:14 AM

He looks average and down to earth... i guess yah exactly. Its a marketing ploy.

BlizzardBomb

May 14, 2009, 11:17 AM

That's horrible, not called for.

Agreed. Yes, Jobs probably has had a decent say about what goes on in the development of Snow Leopard and the iPhone, but no it doesn't make ANY difference to the products themselves or the content of the keynote if someone else does it.

coleridge78

May 14, 2009, 11:50 AM

Really? A cruel, superficial judgement is more acceptable than Phil Schiller's physique? I think the fact you are offended by somebody else's BMI speaks more for what is wrong with society.

********.

I disagree with the idea that Schiller is really that bad, but in general people who are seriously obese are that way be choice and it's just as selfish and disgusting a choice as handing out poisoned candy to children. Our consumption is the direct cause of the skewing of resources that leads to people starving to death all over the world. If you're fat, you kill people. Not to mention that you are a huge leech on the rest of us via insurance premiums, and you put your family through hell when you drop dead of a heart attack at 50 and your kids don't get to have a grandparent.

The idea that obesity is a personal choice that is nobody else's business is a disgusting, deadly lie. Obesity has far more impact on your fellow humans than, say, second hand smoke.

BRLawyer

May 14, 2009, 11:51 AM

Hopefully the situation will AMELIOrate.

Let's just hope the SPINDLE is able to keep the Apple record in place... :p

localoid

May 14, 2009, 12:24 PM

********.

... If you're fat, you kill people. ...

Actually, happiness is murder (http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c392168cae7e01168d85c8c700db).

Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped. And every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger.

GERARDPECHER

May 14, 2009, 01:43 PM

Apple® will kick off its annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) with a keynote address on Monday, June 8 at 10:00 a.m. A team of Apple executives, led by Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, will deliver the keynote. WWDC will offer in-depth sessions on both iPhone™ OS 3.0, the world’s most advanced mobile operating system, and Mac OS® X Snow Leopard™, an even more powerful and refined version of the world’s best desktop operating system and the foundation for future Mac® innovation.
Led by Philip Schiller :
Full presentation of NEW iPhone and iPhone™ OS 3.0
Full presentation of Mac OS® X Snow Leopard™
Lights off - lights on
STEVE JOBS is on the stage - and there is ONE MORE THING ...
Apple®'s brand new iTABLET
Thank you soo much http://images.macrumors.com/vb/images/smilies/smile.gif

Manderby

May 14, 2009, 01:46 PM

I don't really care about who is presenting, they all have their goods and bads.

- Phil Schiller is a good speaker but seemes to be distracted sometimes, whereas the presentation does not flows so well. He does not seems rock-solid to me.
- Scott Forestall is very goal-oriented but this also means that he is not very flexible, his speak does not seem too natural. And everything blows him away. This is tedious, I think.
- Bertrand Serlet may have a funny accent and laughter to some people but on the other hand knows how to explain things simple and effective.
- Steve Jobs is a good seller and likes the big show but he tends to force the audience with his own opinion.

If I would do a ranking, I would prefer: B. Serlet, S. Jobs, P. Shiller and then S. Forestall.

What I wish is to have a good show. But I am afraid, at the beginning, there is some financial info, at the end, there is some musician and in the middle, there will again be around 15 demonstrations (maybe with OpenCL). This is all very boring and unneccesary at a WWDC keynote. Keep it simple and show the world what happend during the last 12 months. There are developers and engineers watching, the presenters should keep that in mind.

Looking forward for SL, OpenCL, maybe something about ZFS, 64bit and possible new devices.

SpitzerCR

May 14, 2009, 02:21 PM

If al bundy is a sex icon.. this guy is too..:confused:

vito

May 14, 2009, 02:28 PM

********.

I disagree with the idea that Schiller is really that bad, but in general people who are seriously obese are that way be choice and it's just as selfish and disgusting a choice as handing out poisoned candy to children. Our consumption is the direct cause of the skewing of resources that leads to people starving to death all over the world. If you're fat, you kill people. Not to mention that you are a huge leech on the rest of us via insurance premiums, and you put your family through hell when you drop dead of a heart attack at 50 and your kids don't get to have a grandparent.

The idea that obesity is a personal choice that is nobody else's business is a disgusting, deadly lie. Obesity has far more impact on your fellow humans than, say, second hand smoke. How stereotypical of you, I'm sure Schiller wouldn't care what you think. Folk are overreacting, you're not going to date the guy you're buying an apple product built by numerous people at Apple they might be black, brown, asian, fat, thin, odd shaped, with different personalities from different backgrounds from different parts of the world. Shame you have no respect for their talent. Sometimes its not a personal choice to be overweight, could get run over by a bus tomorrow.

zedsdead

May 14, 2009, 02:37 PM

I don't remember his name, but the Apple exec in charge of video production who demoed iMovie '09 was excellent.

fokket

May 14, 2009, 03:25 PM

brad.c

May 14, 2009, 04:52 PM

********.

If you drive, you kill people all over the planet. What's your point, as it pertains to the WWDC? Entrance fees should be based on weight?

newConvert

May 14, 2009, 05:11 PM

I think Apple will be happy if people realize that. Steve brought the company back from near extinction, and he's a great speaker and innovator, and deserves a lot of credit. However, if he never came back to Apple, they would continue to produce incredible products and innovate and would continue to be a successful company (barring any really bad leadership getting in, of course). I want Steve to stick around for a long time, but I also hope they diversify their product launches even more, so people stop associating Apple with Steve Jobs, and instead associate them with really cool products more directly.

jW

Interesting... but that is kind of my point, I dont think the vast majority of people associate steve with apple... hell i'd bet 95% of ipod owning people dont know who Steve Jobs even is, let alone acre... this online mac community is a VERY small percentage of the population. anyway, jmo again.

swagi

May 14, 2009, 05:51 PM

winterspan

May 14, 2009, 07:04 PM

I don't get all this degradatory comments in regards to Phil Schiller's presentation. While he's not Steve, his presentation is nice prompt, thorough and professional.

Steve is just a plain natural. Like he was born for it.

Prompt, thorough, and professional???

That may be good for a prostate exam, but those are hardly the most important qualities you want in what is supposed to be an engaging presentation of new products!

Obviously no one can top Jobs, but my god Schiller is the most annoying, akward, and *dreadfully boring* of all of the Apple speakers I've seen so far.

Screw the executives, if Steve isn't going to run the show at many of these in the future, Apple needs to find an alternate presenter who can hold the audience's attention and not bore them to death.

crackbookpro

May 14, 2009, 07:34 PM

Will we see the new iPhone then???

I heard the new iPhone may be the highlight of the show...

CrackBookPro:cool:

Sehnsucht

May 14, 2009, 08:52 PM

Couldn't agree more. Never ceases to amaze me how rude some people can be on the internet.

Most people would never talk to other people in person the same way they talk on the interwebs. ;)

Jesus on OSX

May 17, 2009, 08:08 AM

Ugh.. Phil Schiller.

At least go with Scott Forestall if Jobs isn't willing to do it.

Schiller sucks at giving presentations. He sounds like an infomercial guy and isn't in shape.

t0mat0

May 17, 2009, 09:07 AM

I don't remember his name, but the Apple exec in charge of video production who demoed iMovie '09 was excellent.

Randy Ubillos - who came up with it in the first place. Chief Architect of Video Applications for Apple. Involved in Adobe Premier, Final Cut Pro and more.

He's very likely also behind other upcoming video applications - iMovie's editing style has been rolled into Snow Leopard's Quicktime video editing and if you believe the rumor about files in a OS 3.0 beta, it's been added to iPhone (and might be similar to iMovie/Quicktime style, or a bit more like a cut copy paste - we'll see).

Phil Schiller isn't that bad - he just hasn't had too much practise. Scott Forestall looks more polished, but his enthusiam seems a little plastic. He gets nervous, as most of them do I imagine. Bertrand Serlet is good, and it's a pity the State of the Union is NDA'd from last year - as I think people would enjoy seeing more of him.

gregorsamsa

May 17, 2009, 11:48 AM

No probs here with Schiller doing the talk, but frankly I find a good number of posts here as inane as it gets. I've never read so much fattism in a Mac thread. Don't see any reason for it.

zub3qin

May 17, 2009, 09:50 PM

No probs here with Schiller doing the talk, but frankly I find a good number of posts here as inane as it gets. I've never read so much fattism in a Mac thread. Don't see any reason for it.

It is because Apple itself has both overtly and subliminally emphasized thin is better than fat.....

Macbook Air- thin is in.
Mac guy thin, PC guy fat...
iPod nano.

TheSlush

May 19, 2009, 01:06 PM

Anybody else kinda NOT looking forward to Phil's over-rehearsed enthusiasm?

queshy

May 23, 2009, 08:35 PM

Schiller does a great job - but obviously he will never be as good as Jobs. I care more about the announcements than who is giving the presentation. I'd love an "update" on Jobs, though, more than anything.

macuserx86

Jun 3, 2009, 01:36 AM

Anybody else kinda NOT looking forward to Phil's over-rehearsed enthusiasm?

Everyone here, lol. You nailed it though, Schiller doesn't seem to actually care about the announcements; his emotion is really fake. He's the Keanu Reeves of execs.

Chundles

Jun 3, 2009, 01:38 AM

Anybody else kinda NOT looking forward to Phil's over-rehearsed enthusiasm?

I like Philnotes. They always seem more human than a Stevenote, as though real people are running the company.

Stevenotes have the glamour, Philnotes have the soul.

themoonisdown09

Jun 3, 2009, 11:10 AM

I like Philnotes. They always seem more human than a Stevenote, as though real people are running the company.

Stevenotes have the glamour, Philnotes have the soul.

I also like Philnotes. I'm just hoping that Scott Forstall doesn't make an appearance. He seems 100 times more rehearsed than Phil could even imagine.

Roessnakhan

Jun 3, 2009, 11:25 AM

Stevenotes have the glamour, Philnotes have the soul.

That's a really good way of putting it. Phil reminds me more of how Woz would be if he gave a keynote. Steve is a good presenter, just not very personable in them.

bergmef

Jun 3, 2009, 11:30 AM

Prompt, thorough, and professional???

That may be good for a prostate exam, but those are hardly the most important qualities you want in what is supposed to be an engaging presentation of new products!

Obviously no one can top Jobs, but my god Schiller is the most annoying, akward, and *dreadfully boring* of all of the Apple speakers I've seen so far.

Screw the executives, if Steve isn't going to run the show at many of these in the future, Apple needs to find an alternate presenter who can hold the audience's attention and not bore them to death.

Could always WOW them with products?!? Maybe hire an actor ... naked victorias secret model ... mmmmmm. While I would love to see the model, I want to hear about apple products from the people that live and breath the stuff.