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macguy42
May 20, 2009, 03:00 PM
I just saw that the Mac version of Braid launched today. It's a native port (no emulation). And apparently you can try a free demo before buying. http://www.playgreenhouse.com/game/NNONE-000001-01



Sijmen
May 20, 2009, 04:30 PM
Wow that's awesome. Checking out the demo because the trailer looks really promising, and it's a native game! Now that's a game worth trying out.

Miharu
May 20, 2009, 04:34 PM
Downloaded the demo immediately. Will buy the whole version later. It came out much faster than I expected :)

ken694
May 20, 2009, 04:54 PM
Hi guys how did you open the demo?
I downloaded it but have no idea on how to open it. It just opens a dialogue window that requires authorization.

BTW great game, I already did the full 200 points on Xbox 360, now I want to try it out on my Mac.

Eric5h5
May 20, 2009, 05:05 PM
Hi guys how did you open the demo?
I downloaded it but have no idea on how to open it. It just opens a dialogue window that requires authorization.

Look down a little bit more.

--Eric

ken694
May 20, 2009, 05:10 PM
:) sorry for the dumb question, I was using 1024 x 640 which cut down the window...

Thanks a lot!

SilentPanda
May 20, 2009, 06:10 PM
I got this game for the 360 a while back and it's great. Not "woah game of the year" but definitely something new to play. Definitely give the demo a shot, especially if you like puzzle games.

iPaf
May 20, 2009, 06:17 PM
Cool! Seems to be a promising game for the iPhone... ;)

Macmoney
May 20, 2009, 06:20 PM
does not look all that great....Apple pushed the new unibodys
as the "mobile gamer laptop" Games have been lackluster thus far
imo...only a few bright spots but overall new games release for the
mac have been hit or miss I like Flatout 2,COD4,Tomb raider Anniversary,
and the shaun white games looks decent......

Other than that a complete let down.....Itouch/Iphone games seem
to get more focus. I should not have to use crossover or whatever
to play GOOD games on my mac.

Eric5h5
May 20, 2009, 06:22 PM
does not look all that great....

You are quite wrong. It looks great, and is great.

--Eric

Sky Blue
May 20, 2009, 06:25 PM
Slow news day, huh?

Macmoney
May 20, 2009, 06:25 PM
You are quite wrong. It looks great, and is great.

--Eric

Graphics are lackluster ...looks like a super mario/donkey kong
rehash from '85

bstreiff
May 20, 2009, 06:26 PM
You are quite wrong. It looks great, and is great.

I picked it up when it was the XBox Live Deal of the Week. I found it to be pretty bland, myself. Decent enough puzzle game, but not really worth the hype.

Eric5h5
May 20, 2009, 06:32 PM
Graphics are lackluster ...looks like a super mario/donkey kong
rehash from '85

Um, no. You may be confused because it doesn't have 3D graphics with explosions. Fortunately, it's not necessary to have 3D graphics with explosions to look great.

--Eric

slb
May 20, 2009, 06:33 PM
It's a fun little game, but highly overrated. I have to admit it kind of annoys me because it's an oft-cited example from proponents of the trendy "gaming as art" movement. The description says "Explore the human condition," which really just means there are pretentious text interludes between the worlds. In truth, it's just a cool puzzle game where you can reverse time.

waloshin
May 20, 2009, 06:36 PM
Looks like super mario on drugs!

Adrien24
May 20, 2009, 06:40 PM
This game looks somewhat cool and a bit dull...

ravenvii
May 20, 2009, 06:43 PM
does not look all that great....Apple pushed the new unibodys
as the "mobile gamer laptop" Games have been lackluster thus far
imo...only a few bright spots but overall new games release for the
mac have been hit or miss I like Flatout 2,COD4,Tomb raider Anniversary,
and the shaun white games looks decent......

Two words: Boot Camp.

Graphics are lackluster ...looks like a super mario/donkey kong
rehash from '85

You can't be serious. Or you must be twelve.

Doju
May 20, 2009, 06:49 PM
Slow news day, huh?
Agreed. What is with MacRumors lately?

All the other sites are capable of pumping out tons of news on a variety of things (we're close to WWDC! Do something!) and we either get few, none or days-late news-stories.

What's with you lately Arn?

DS Flyer
May 20, 2009, 06:53 PM
Agreed. What is with MacRumors lately?

All the other sites are capable of pumping out tons of news on a variety of things (we're close to WWDC! Do something!) and we either get few, none or days-late news-stories.

What's with you lately Arn?



Apple will be releasing a new piece of hardware at WWDC! A Time Machine!

lol. Better?

Dagless
May 20, 2009, 06:58 PM
I like indie games (work in the 'industry' myself) and I love me some inventive platformers but this, meh. I wasn't keen on it. I can see why people would like it though but the gameplay didn't stick with me at all.

Even after all these years I still say the most fun, most balanced and all round best puzzle platformer is Donkey Kong on the Gameboy.

birch25
May 20, 2009, 07:02 PM
Graphics are lackluster ...looks like a super mario/donkey kong
rehash from '85

The graphics are fantastic! It's not 3D but the art is stunning. If you're calling all 2D games Mario and Donkey Kong rehashes, I can't reason with you, but as for the graphics being on par with NES/SNES games, ahem...

SNES (http://www.mobygames.com/images/i/28/18/267568.jpeg)

Braid (http://www.digitalgames.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/braid_screenshot05.jpg)

Also the gameplay is some of the most satisfying I've experienced in years. I cannot recommend this game enough.

airwalke
May 20, 2009, 07:16 PM
Wow, a Windows port that doesn't require an Intel Mac to run! Fascinating. I'll have to seriously consider getting this, I've heard great things about this game.

cg0def
May 20, 2009, 07:20 PM
Slow news day, huh?

Yeah really. I might be wrong but I've had this game installed for quite a while. I can't really see the appeal and I personally like World of Goo much better. But hey to each his/her own ...

Surely
May 20, 2009, 07:23 PM
Great game. The graphics are really nice, I like the detail.

I downloaded the demo and finished the first world. Very cool. I'm going to finish the demo, and if I'm still into it, I'll buy the full version.

I love these games.....

bunty
May 20, 2009, 07:48 PM
It's like a 2D Prince of Persia :confused:

ltldrummerboy
May 20, 2009, 08:01 PM
Does this support gamepads?

birch25
May 20, 2009, 08:34 PM
Does this support gamepads?

My Xbox 360 controller (with all appropriate drivers installed) does not seem to work with it and there are no clear option to enable gamepad play which is a shame.

aznguyen316
May 20, 2009, 08:40 PM
the keyboard controls are killin it for me lol, money better spent on Plants vs Zombies... DO IT!! both on steam and a Mac version.

peepboon
May 20, 2009, 08:50 PM
Will be trying this tonight :D i love puzzle games

ltldrummerboy
May 20, 2009, 09:00 PM
My Xbox 360 controller (with all appropriate drivers installed) does not seem to work with it and there are no clear option to enable gamepad play which is a shame.

Too bad. That's the same setup I've got. If they added gamepad support then it would be a no-brainer for me.

birch25
May 20, 2009, 09:10 PM
Too bad. That's the same setup I've got. If they added gamepad support then it would be a no-brainer for me.

You really should get it anyway :)

blizaine
May 20, 2009, 09:21 PM
this is, by far, my favorite XBL game of all time. Very cool. If it gets ported to the iPhone, I'll pick it up.

bstreiff
May 20, 2009, 09:22 PM
The graphics are fantastic! It's not 3D but the art is stunning. If you're calling all 2D games Mario and Donkey Kong rehashes, I can't reason with you, but as for the graphics being on par with NES/SNES games, ahem...

SNES (http://www.mobygames.com/images/i/28/18/267568.jpeg)

Final Fantasy 3/6 (http://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/final-fantasy-iii__/screenshots) is a better representation of the graphical power of the SNES than Super Mario Bros. 3. Especially since SMB3 was for the NES, not the SNES.

gabe90
May 20, 2009, 09:35 PM
Own this for XBLA. Amazing experience, and anyone who doesn't have a 360 should definitely check this out. Living art.

Eric5h5
May 20, 2009, 09:38 PM
You can use gamepads with a third-party utility like Controllermate. Not ideal, but it works. Here (http://www.starscenesoftware.com/stuff/Braid.zip) is a Controllermate setup for my Rumblepad 2, if anyone's interested and wants to save a couple minutes of setting it up yourself. Both the dpad and left stick are mapped to arrow keys. Button 2 = space, button 3 = shift, button 4 = esc.

--Eric

Akzel
May 20, 2009, 09:42 PM
Oh, good one. Since it's 2D I won't need to use the 9600 so it won't freeze my MBP while I'm playing a game. Good tactics Apple!

ltldrummerboy
May 20, 2009, 09:43 PM
You really should get it anyway :)

I probably will, if only to support Mac gaming. I'll contact them to ask if they have any plans to add gamepad support. Until then it looks like I'll be giving ControllerMate a go. I'll let everyone know what I find.

birch25
May 20, 2009, 09:46 PM
Final Fantasy 3/6 (http://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/final-fantasy-iii__/screenshots) is a better representation of the graphical power of the SNES than Super Mario Bros. 3. Especially since SMB3 was for the NES, not the SNES.

Oops, you are correct, sir. Although Braid still looks worlds better than anything from the early 90s.

Miharu
May 20, 2009, 09:54 PM
The lack of controller support is astounding. Fortunately the above mentioned ways of making your gamepad act as a keyboard seem to work.

WilliamG
May 20, 2009, 10:07 PM
This game also runs APPALLINGLY. It's pretty much completely unplayable at any resolution on my 2.66ghz 17" unibody MBP. I loved it on the 360, but this game is a travesty on the Mac side.

DavidLeblond
May 20, 2009, 10:24 PM
Game runs perfectly on my computer. The puzzles make my head hurt though! $15 seems like a good deal, I may have to get it.

(I have no Xbox, only a Wii)

pdpardue
May 20, 2009, 10:27 PM
the game freezes the whole system on me. Get as far as the picture and when I go to solve it the computer becomes pretty much non responsive and I have to do a hard reboot

Eric5h5
May 20, 2009, 11:02 PM
This game also runs APPALLINGLY. It's pretty much completely unplayable at any resolution on my 2.66ghz 17" unibody MBP. I loved it on the 360, but this game is a travesty on the Mac side.

Runs perfectly at the desktop resolution on my G5 + X800. Which is getting close to 5 years old now...the game is not remotely a "travesty"; it's a very good port.

--Eric

aznguyen316
May 20, 2009, 11:08 PM
This game also runs APPALLINGLY. It's pretty much completely unplayable at any resolution on my 2.66ghz 17" unibody MBP. I loved it on the 360, but this game is a travesty on the Mac side.

lol something must be up with your mac.. my 2.0 MB runs the demo fine at native resolution, no issues =) just keyboard play sucks

JRTeK
May 20, 2009, 11:36 PM
i've had this game for about a month... the cider version works PERFECT...

WilliamG
May 20, 2009, 11:59 PM
Runs perfectly at the desktop resolution on my G5 + X800. Which is getting close to 5 years old now...the game is not remotely a "travesty"; it's a very good port.

--Eric

OK well then something is wrong with my unibody, and my wife's unibody 2.53Ghz 15.4". Or the game is coded badly. But something is up.

God^Cent
May 21, 2009, 12:10 AM
Glad to see this games been ported. Braid was/is one of the most intelligent games I've seen in the past few years. This game will make your brain hurt so bad you'll want to cry... then quite literally jump for joy when you've completed the puzzle. This was a blast to play and I'd highly recommend it!

gloss
May 21, 2009, 12:15 AM
Glad to see this games been ported. Braid was/is one of the most intelligent games I've seen in the past few years. This game will make your brain hurt so bad you'll want to cry... then quite literally jump for joy when you've completed the puzzle. This was a blast to play and I'd highly recommend it!

+1

Brilliant game.

Akzel
May 21, 2009, 12:16 AM
OK well then something is wrong with my unibody, and my wife's unibody 2.53Ghz 15.4". Or the game is coded badly. But something is up.

I'm playing at my 2.53GHz 15.4" and it's perfect. Beautiful graphics too.

Did you check the correct resolution at start? You can beef it up to 1440x900, full screen, vsync and play it in it's full glory, perfectly (on the Unibody MBP at least).

Nice title, I'll buy it. :-)

djgamble
May 21, 2009, 12:17 AM
Yeah really. I might be wrong but I've had this game installed for quite a while. I can't really see the appeal and I personally like World of Goo much better. But hey to each his/her own ...

Aaaah you downloaded the pirated Cider version then? Good work mate... thanks for supporting Mac gaming.

IraeDeorum
May 21, 2009, 12:21 AM
the game freezes the whole system on me. Get as far as the picture and when I go to solve it the computer becomes pretty much non responsive and I have to do a hard reboot

I had to do the same thing. The game looks great but it just freezes after I cross the first bridge. Very odd.

-Last gen MacBook Pro 2.33 gHz running 10.4.11

stanny
May 21, 2009, 12:29 AM
Anybody tried this on a Intel 950 GMA Mac Mini? Works smooth?

djgamble
May 21, 2009, 12:33 AM
It's like a 2D Prince of Persia :confused:

Where are people getting these comparisons? Meh I feel old...

If the game is as good as Mario, Donkey Kong or Price of Persia (all of which are 2D) then daaamn... it must be good!!! Those are all classic top-selling games!

What I think most of you mean is "it's a platform game" with the implication that platform games are not fun (probably pointing out that you're a kid whose 1st game was something along the lines of Half-Life 2.) For those of us who played games in the 80's/early 90's... YES there's lots of platform games. They're not all Mario, Donkey Kong and Prince of Persia (some are really bad); they're just all in the platform game genre.

It's a bit like me looking at a shoddy 1st person shooter and saying "it's a 3d first person shooter"... each to their own, but I don't think that Deus Ex, Half-Life, UT and Quake are all the same just because they all involve a guy holding a gun and shooting people. Platformers are the same... they're mostly different.

This one does not:
1) look like prince of persia (you're not some persian dude who is racing against the clock to save a princess, with a sword as your only weapon)
2) look like Donkey Kong (you're not a big gorilla going around collecting bananas and smashing barrels)
3) look like Mario (you're not a fat Italian/American plumber who travels through pipes, collects mushrooms and jumps of people in order to save a princess)

I could be wrong, but besides being a platform game, I don't think it shares many features of either 3. Its graphics are also HUGELY different from those games (and I'm not bagging Mario/Donkey Kong... while they were 8/16-bit graphics, they had a LOT of detail.)

Akzel
May 21, 2009, 12:39 AM
Where are people getting these comparisons? Meh I feel old...

If the game is as good as Mario, Donkey Kong or Price of Persia (all of which are 2D) then daaamn... it must be good!!! Those are all classic top-selling games!

What I think most of you mean is "it's a platform game" with the implication that platform games are not fun (probably pointing out that you're a kid whose 1st game was something along the lines of Half-Life 2.) For those of us who played games in the 80's/early 90's... YES there's lots of platform games. They're not all Mario, Donkey Kong and Prince of Persia (some are really bad); they're just all in the platform game genre.

It's a bit like me looking at a shoddy 1st person shooter and saying "it's a 3d first person shooter"... each to their own, but I don't think that Deus Ex, Half-Life, UT and Quake are all the same just because they all involve a guy holding a gun and shooting people. Platformers are the same... they're mostly different.

This one does not:
1) look like prince of persia (you're not some persian dude who is racing against the clock to save a princess, with a sword as your only weapon)
2) look like Donkey Kong (you're not a big gorilla going around collecting bananas and smashing barrels)
3) look like Mario (you're not a fat Italian/American plumber who travels through pipes, collects mushrooms and jumps of people in order to save a princess)

I could be wrong, but besides being a platform game, I don't think it shares many features of either 3. Its graphics are also HUGELY different from those games (and I'm not bagging Mario/Donkey Kong... while they were 8/16-bit graphics, they had a LOT of detail.)

PLUS it has some cool time reverse/travelling **** that's way too cool!! :D

And puzzles.

:-)

oyebto
May 21, 2009, 01:00 AM
finally non-iphone news.

iMaggot
May 21, 2009, 01:17 AM
Dude i need to check this out.

MagnusVonMagnum
May 21, 2009, 01:19 AM
The demo seems to run fine/smooth at 1680x1050 on my 1.8GHz PPC G4 PowerMac with an ATI 9800 Pro. It's nice to see a new game available that will run on PPC machines. But I simply cannot fathom why they would not include joystick support. I've got a Logitech Dual-Action controller (similar to a Dual-Shock controller) that works fine on the Mac (Mame, etc.), but I see only keyboard controls here and that's just downright pathetic. How long would it have taken them to add joystick support? There is simply no excuse for the lack of it in 2009 on a platform style game. I don't want to hear about having to buy and/or install MORE software to simulate key presses because a game maker cannot be bothered to properly support the Mac platform. Therefore, I will not buy it. Maybe if they lose enough sales, they'll wake up and add joystick support.

kennycheng93
May 21, 2009, 02:21 AM
It is very slow in White MacBook (Intel GMA X3100)

maxrobertson
May 21, 2009, 02:46 AM
I got this game for the 360 a while back and it's great. Not "woah game of the year" but definitely something new to play. Definitely give the demo a shot, especially if you like puzzle games.

Well maybe not for you, but it's the only game of the year that I've had any inclination to play. Let alone pay for

maxrobertson
May 21, 2009, 02:47 AM
Graphics are lackluster ...looks like a super mario/donkey kong
rehash from '85

Hahahahah. Are you kidding? The graphics are about as good as platform game graphics will ever be and what's more they are very artistic. Not just good, but artistic.

maxrobertson
May 21, 2009, 02:52 AM
OK well then something is wrong with my unibody, and my wife's unibody 2.53Ghz 15.4". Or the game is coded badly. But something is up.

It's jerky but very playable on my MacBook without a real graphics card, so I don't know what to tell you.

ikir
May 21, 2009, 02:59 AM
Graphics are lackluster ...looks like a super mario/donkey kong
rehash from '85

Graphic is impressive for a 2D game...

WilliamG
May 21, 2009, 03:07 AM
I'm playing at my 2.53GHz 15.4" and it's perfect. Beautiful graphics too.

Did you check the correct resolution at start? You can beef it up to 1440x900, full screen, vsync and play it in it's full glory, perfectly (on the Unibody MBP at least).

Nice title, I'll buy it. :-)

This makes no sense. It runs like crap on both my unibody systems. I tried 800x600 all the way up to 1920x1200 (external display connected to both), and it must run at around 15-20fps. The opening screen is at around 10fps. I'd say.

CaptainCanuck
May 21, 2009, 03:13 AM
Played through the demo. Great little game, but I've been running into a problem with the jig-saw puzzle mode. Anytime I try enter it, my entire system becomes unresponsive. The only solution seems to be cold-booting.

Has anyone else been running into this problem?

Surely
May 21, 2009, 03:17 AM
^^^ Are you Trevor Linden? ;)


It is very slow in White MacBook (Intel GMA X3100)

Really? Because it runs perfectly on my 2.2 GHz C2D MacBook.

I'm running it fullscreen, vSync, at 1280x800.

ltldrummerboy
May 21, 2009, 03:45 AM
I got the gamepad to work using ControllerMate (http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate/).

I've uploaded the profile for an Xbox 360 controller if anyone wants to give it a try. It's much better than the keyboard.

macduke
May 21, 2009, 04:01 AM
Where are people getting these comparisons? Meh I feel old...

If the game is as good as Mario, Donkey Kong or Price of Persia (all of which are 2D) then daaamn... it must be good!!! Those are all classic top-selling games!

What I think most of you mean is "it's a platform game" with the implication that platform games are not fun (probably pointing out that you're a kid whose 1st game was something along the lines of Half-Life 2.) For those of us who played games in the 80's/early 90's... YES there's lots of platform games. They're not all Mario, Donkey Kong and Prince of Persia (some are really bad); they're just all in the platform game genre.

It's a bit like me looking at a shoddy 1st person shooter and saying "it's a 3d first person shooter"... each to their own, but I don't think that Deus Ex, Half-Life, UT and Quake are all the same just because they all involve a guy holding a gun and shooting people. Platformers are the same... they're mostly different.

This one does not:
1) look like prince of persia (you're not some persian dude who is racing against the clock to save a princess, with a sword as your only weapon)
2) look like Donkey Kong (you're not a big gorilla going around collecting bananas and smashing barrels)
3) look like Mario (you're not a fat Italian/American plumber who travels through pipes, collects mushrooms and jumps of people in order to save a princess)

I could be wrong, but besides being a platform game, I don't think it shares many features of either 3. Its graphics are also HUGELY different from those games (and I'm not bagging Mario/Donkey Kong... while they were 8/16-bit graphics, they had a LOT of detail.)

Yes, I'm 24 and understand completely what you are saying. But I think what he meant to say is "it looks like a 2d Price of Persia: The Sands of Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sands_of_Time)" which is a game that came out 6 years ago on the xBox, PS2 and Gamecube. The game allowed the player to to slow down, freeze, and reverse time with a pretty cool engine that reversed everything that just happened, including sounds, attacks, etc. It was pretty revolutionary at the time because it worked so well and it was a blast to play, especially when combined with the sweet acrobatics such as running along walls at high speed across large gaps in high places.

niuniu
May 21, 2009, 04:06 AM
Looks great, bet it's difficult to control well on the iPhone though..

Winni
May 21, 2009, 06:15 AM
Wow, a Windows port that doesn't require an Intel Mac to run! Fascinating. I'll have to seriously consider getting this, I've heard great things about this game.

The Xbox 360 does NOT run on Windows and it does NOT use an Intel CPU - it runs on a triple core PowerPC processor with a proprietary OS. And actually, the first developer machines for the Xbox 360 were re-branded Apple PowerMac G5s.

DELLsFan
May 21, 2009, 07:33 AM
Never played it. Probably never will.

MacRumorUser
May 21, 2009, 08:55 AM
OK is the MAC version just a CIDER port ? I managed to convert my PC version to a working MAC CIDER port a good while ago.

Only thing is I don't have control over screen resolution or v-sync on my Cider conversion, so I pretty much just play it in bootcamp anyway. Worth buying again on the mac ?

txa1265
May 21, 2009, 09:01 AM
OK is the MAC version just a CIDER port ? I managed to convert my PC version to a working MAC CIDER port a good while ago.

NO NO NO NO!

Doesn't anyone read the press releases for this stuff ... they stated pretty clearly that this is NOT a Ciderized verion but rather a full native Mac port!

As for the play / don't play ... they offer a generous demo, why don't people just download that and decide?

Clocknova
May 21, 2009, 09:01 AM
No. It's a native Mac port, not Cider or anything else.

JayMan8081
May 21, 2009, 09:05 AM
This is awesome. It's been receiving great reviews on Xbox 360 and the PC version hasn't been out for very long before the Mac port. Always great to see new games coming to Mac.

TuffLuffJimmy
May 21, 2009, 10:20 AM
If Mario and the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time had a baby...

kingtj
May 21, 2009, 11:37 AM
It's been out a while, but have you ever checked out "World of Goo"?

http://2dboy.com/games.php

It's another game that's coded natively to run on a Mac, including non-Intel based machines. Great puzzle platform game, that I suspect is more fun and inventive than Braid, really.

I *highly* recommend it.


Wow, a Windows port that doesn't require an Intel Mac to run! Fascinating. I'll have to seriously consider getting this, I've heard great things about this game.

jgbhardy
May 21, 2009, 12:13 PM
It is very slow in White MacBook (Intel GMA X3100)

Not on mine it isn't seems to be running great up to world 3 now, runs perfectly no glitches nothing, smooth as ever. I also think the graphics of the background in the game are nice. Running it on vsync 1280x800
I'm definitely thinking about buying this game, but enjoying the demo for now!:D

DoNoHarm
May 21, 2009, 12:14 PM
it's all about super mario.

mixel
May 21, 2009, 12:37 PM
Wow, a lot of philistines in this thread.

Braid is a really good game. "it looks bad".. ? Tell that to all of the magazines and sites that have made it one of the highest rated indie/downloadable titles in recent memory.

Next you'll be saying Cave Story is bad because it's not 3D. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. This IS a really nice title..

As is World Of Goo.. As is Plants Vs Zombies (Which has an osX version, but the steam/windows version also runs full speed in Parallels on a recent MBP or iMac)

MagnusVonMagnum
May 21, 2009, 01:24 PM
3D is not the issue. I think 3D is constantly overdone. 90% of all gaming software are 3D shooters which amounts to Doom V.2,000,094. It gets OLD. Almost all of them are IDENTICAL except for the graphics. Shoot this. Grab ammunition. Shoot that. Grab MORE ammunition and a bigger gun. Shoot some more. Open door. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Brainless, repetitive garbage.

The Star Wars FPS games were a breath of fresh air because suddenly you could interact a lot more with the game. Being able to pick bad guys up and throw them off cliffs was a novelty, but where are the sequels? Some of the best games I've ever played (whether it be on Intellivision, Colecovision, the Commodore 64 or the Commodore Amiga were mostly all 2D games). What happened to the old Lucasfilm Scumm games? With the exception of Grim Fandango (Monkey Island 4 kinda stunk due to how bad the 3D looked), they were all 2D games. Why are the all the good games abandoned in favor of more 3D war shooters?

But here the problem is not 3D versus 2D but rather it is simply that platform games need joystick support. No one wants to play a platform game with a keyboard. Add joystick support and more people will buy the game. It's that simple.

As for fairly recent Intel Macs having trouble playing the game, I can't help but point out to those that say PPC chips are ancient and crappy how smooth this game plays on my "ancient" G4 at high resolutions even running the latest version of Leopard (which definitely seems to be the most stable Leopard yet here on my PowerMac). Maybe they're not as old or crappy as some seem to think. Clearly, the GPU is the biggest stumbling element on computers in the past several years, not the CPU.

wonderbread57
May 21, 2009, 01:29 PM
Slow news day, huh?

Yeah this is 2nd page news at best. I wouldn't think that a puzzle game release for the mac would be front page news and I am skeptical about this game being very popular on the xbox since I've never heard of it. I guess very popular relative to the other super popular puzzle games on xbox360.

ltldrummerboy
May 21, 2009, 01:41 PM
Here's what I heard back from HotHeadGames.

We have certainly heard feedback from people that want this, so we are definitely considering adding it in an update. In the meantime you can use ControllerMate. I have attached a config file for it that should work well with Braid. While this is not officially supported, it may satisfy your controller needs for now.

Looks like it might be a while. I've attached the config file he sent me.

Sijmen
May 21, 2009, 02:32 PM
I've finished the demo! Spent quite some time on the last hunt and also the puzzle on the right side of the very last level of the demo.

Awesome, mind-twisting game. Going to buy it (just don't know when).

Now I'm also going to try Plants vs Zombies, thanks for mentioning it. Finished World of Goo already, that one was great too.

Eric5h5
May 21, 2009, 02:36 PM
OK is the MAC version just a CIDER port ?

How would it work on my G5 if it was a Cider port?

--Eric

SandynJosh
May 21, 2009, 03:08 PM
What IS this!!! I thought this site stopped all rumors that didn't deal with the iPhone, iTablet, or the Palm Pre.

This is certainly off topic even if the site's name is MacRumor.

Let's get back to talking about the fabled MicroSoft phone now.

Hugh
May 21, 2009, 04:51 PM
It is very slow in White MacBook (Intel GMA X3100)

Works great on my MacBook Late 2007. And it has the same graphics card. :/

Hugh

Eric5h5
May 21, 2009, 05:09 PM
I wonder if those having problems need updated graphics card drivers (i.e., make sure the OS is updated).

--Eric

pdpardue
May 21, 2009, 06:44 PM
I wonder if those having problems need updated graphics card drivers (i.e., make sure the OS is updated).

--Eric

my system is up to date but I still have problems. to the point I deleted the demo due to it's unplayability.

ltldrummerboy
May 21, 2009, 06:51 PM
Using my late-2007 MacBook w/X3100 GPU it runs as good as on a 24" iMac w/Radeon 2600 GPU.

Sijmen
May 21, 2009, 06:54 PM
On my 2.4 (late 2007 or so?) iMac, when I press Shift it's so slow it even goes backwards and then I also experience ghosting on my screen.

Seriously though, I just bought the game and found the first non-demo levels to be very frustrating. More of the trial and error platform thing. (The level Irreversible is what I'm talking about here.)

birch25
May 21, 2009, 09:56 PM
Seriously though, I just bought the game and found the first non-demo levels to be very frustrating. More of the trial and error platform thing. (The level Irreversible is what I'm talking about here.)

I got though that one after literally 2 hours of trying all sorts of different strategies. The game can be very frustrating but the sense of accomplishment I got from figuring each puzzle out was great! The tricky thing is that once you think you've figured out how the game is using time travel the next world comes along and knocks you on your ass. Whether you find that frustrating or wonderfully devious seems to be the dividing line for people.

MagnusVonMagnum
May 22, 2009, 01:06 AM
I tried the mentioned "World Of Goo" and it seems more interesting offhand, but maybe since it's designed to use a mouse it just seems easier to pick up. That ControllerMate option people keep talking about isn't helpful because it isn't free. I'm not paying $15 just to be able to play a $20 game with a joystick. That's ridiculous. It almost doubles the price of the game.

Eric5h5
May 22, 2009, 03:10 PM
ControllerMate is useful for a number of things. For one game, yes it would be silly, but I use it for several games and even some non-game uses. It's nice to have around.

--Eric

nhexima
May 22, 2009, 04:15 PM
Pretty ridiculous that this doesn't have even generic USB joypad support, it's a platformer! Still, I enjoyed the demo, I might get around to buying it at some point.

haaz
May 22, 2009, 06:33 PM
Back in the '80s, we couldn't just press the shift key to reverse time. No, if we saw death awaiting one of our game characters, we open the door on the floppy drive just in the moment before the golem/titan/giant slammed the life out of my level 1 wizard! Sure, sometimes you didn't make it in time, and that meant your wizard died. No bringin' him back! Butchya know what, we liked it.....

barkmonster
May 22, 2009, 06:34 PM
It threw up an error saying I don't have Open GL?

my GPU is the standard Radeon 7500 that came with my mac in the AGP slot:-

ATI Radeon 7500:

Chipset Model: ATY,RV200
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 32 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x5157
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-91701-222
Displays:
SyncMaster:
Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
Depth: 32-Bit Color
Core Image: Software
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected

MagnusVonMagnum
May 23, 2009, 12:48 AM
The 7500 doesn't have Core Image support so maybe that's triggering the error?

Eric5h5
May 23, 2009, 01:26 AM
It threw up an error saying I don't have Open GL?

Always read the system requirements.

Graphics support: ATI Radeon(TM) 9500 or better, NVIDIA GeForce(TM) FX 5900 or better, Intel® GMA 950 or better

--Eric

barkmonster
May 23, 2009, 03:09 AM
I only downloaded it for the hell of it, never mind.

I was thinking of getting a used FX5200 on eBay at some stage for Core Image support but even that wouldn't be enough I guess. I've seen the Radeon 9800 mac edition for just over £30 though, maybe that would be an option?

Eric5h5
May 23, 2009, 11:20 AM
I've seen the Radeon 9800 mac edition for just over £30 though, maybe that would be an option?

Yep.

--Eric

mojohojo
May 24, 2009, 01:35 AM
any chance this game would run alright on my 2006 black macbook? (C2D 2.0Ghz, GMA 950, 3gb RAM)

ltldrummerboy
May 24, 2009, 03:33 AM
^
It looks like it meets the requirements. Download the demo and see how it works.

Torf
May 25, 2009, 06:00 AM
Managed to get a decent joypad working on Braid using a PS3 controller (connected via usb) and this controllermate config file;

PS3 Controller driver (http://tattiebogle.net/index.php/ProjectRoot/Ps3Controller)

Hope this helps someone. Great game btw.

Eric5h5
Jun 13, 2009, 05:32 PM
By the way, there seems to be a version 1.5 update out that adds gamepad support. I haven't tried it because I finished the game using ControllerMate.

--Eric

ltldrummerboy
Jun 13, 2009, 05:54 PM
Indeed there is. I'm downloading it now to see how it works.

Miharu
Jun 20, 2009, 03:07 PM
Indeed there is an update and it works flawlessly with my USB Sega Saturn pad :) Strange though that there is no mention of the update anywhere.

nhexima
Jun 20, 2009, 06:19 PM
New update worked with my PS1 pad (via USB adapter). This game's getting my money when I get some extra funds.

Ebagop
Sep 18, 2009, 01:31 PM
I really like braid, but I don't want to buy it, are there any places I can get serial numbers or cracks? I really want braid.

Eric5h5
Sep 18, 2009, 02:22 PM
I really like braid, but I don't want to buy it

If you like it that much, why do you hate the developer and want to punish him for making a game you enjoy by illegally pirating it?

--Eric

BrianKonarsMac
Sep 18, 2009, 02:59 PM
Um, no. You may be confused because it doesn't have 3D graphics with explosions. Fortunately, it's not necessary to have 3D graphics with explosions to look great.

--Eric

Um, no. You must be confused to think that your opinion is the only one that matters.

--Brian

Eric5h5
Sep 18, 2009, 03:28 PM
Where did that come from? Total non-sequitur....

--Eric

txa1265
Sep 18, 2009, 04:08 PM
I really like braid, but I don't want to buy it, are there any places I can get serial numbers or cracks? I really want braid.

It is said that people who would pirate from very small independent developers are the lowest scum in the universe.

So go away, scum!

Sijmen
Sep 18, 2009, 09:08 PM
I really like braid, but I don't want to buy it, are there any places I can get serial numbers or cracks? I really want braid.

Why don't you want to pay?

toanavinai
Sep 28, 2009, 08:07 PM
I am one of the crowd who would like to get Braid for Mac but doesn't want to pay. The reason? I already have it on the Xbox 360 - and I already paid $15 for it then. =/

I'd be willing to get some kind of discount for already having purchased it - I mean, the other weekend, first time Braid buyers on Steam got the game for a mere $5. But another $15? Meh.

Huntn
Sep 29, 2009, 11:50 AM
Where did that come from? Total non-sequitur....
--Eric

When someone said they did not care for an aspect of the game, you told them they were confused. Not everyone is going to like it, an opinion they are entitled to.

Eric5h5
Sep 29, 2009, 11:26 PM
When someone said they did not care for an aspect of the game, you told them they were confused. Not everyone is going to like it, an opinion they are entitled to.

Opinions are fine, stating uninformed opinions as fact isn't. Also, digging up a months-old comment for the sole purpose of trolling (or something) is rather childish and pointless...that exchange was over long ago.

--Eric