Nintendo E3 '09 Press Conference Discussion Thread!

[twistedlegato]

Well, due to the fact that the only gaming console of this generation that i own is the Wii, i have nothing else to be excited about.

It begins tomorrow (June 2, 2009) at 9:00AM PST. Nintendo has already said that it's going to be much bigger than last years (like that'll be hard to top:rolleyes: ).

My predictions:

Exact American/European release dates for Motion Plus
Pikmin 3
New Zelda
New Mario (Both new Zelda and Mario games made for the Wii were confirmed by Nintendo last year)
New Wiifit
Bragging about sales
Some silly games made for your grandma
Then something HUGE at the at that no one is expecting at all :D

Well i suppose this is more of a dream conference...but oh wells. I'm hoping for a good chunk of that list to be presented :)

Also, that chick from last year better NOT even show her face on that stage.

[Antares]

I think there will be a surprise announcement...possibly Wii Music 2, which will be the talk of the show.

Seriously, though, this could be Nintendo's show. the Wii has some amazing exclusive games forthcoming. Potentially better than the 360 or PS3...which is exciting...and I have to say, "finally."

[twistedlegato]

Mario is now confirmed :D

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3757

[sikkinixx]

"new Mario game for the Wii is coming, but the article hasn't specified what type of game it will be"

Mario: Tea Party confirmed.

[Dagless]

Obviously I'm hoping it to be a true Mario platformer. Galaxy was on the ball Nintendo, don't make anything less than that!

[twistedlegato]

Obviously I'm hoping it to be a true Mario platformer. Galaxy was on the ball Nintendo, don't make anything less than that!

What could possibly be next though?

Super Mario Jungle?
Super Mario Universe?
Super Mario Forest?

Hopefully Nintendo is more creative than i am :P

[nintendude]

I don't remember where, but I do remember reading that Miyamoto expressed interest in making a Super Mario Galaxy sequel

[.Andy]

What could possibly be next though?

Super Mario Jungle?
Super Mario Universe?
Super Mario Forest?

Hopefully Nintendo is more creative than i am :P
I'd play all of those.

[Dagless]

I'd like a Mario game set in the Mushroom Kingdom again but with a more Mario World visual flair. Or something like Mario 3 with many short connected areas (I suppose Galaxy had this too).

Just make it good or get the hell out of my shop/off my lawn.

[jaw04005]

I'd like a Mario game set in the Mushroom Kingdom again but with a more Mario World visual flair. Or something like Mario 3 with many short connected areas (I suppose Galaxy had this too).

Super Mario 3 or Super Mario World would both be excellent styles to emulate in the next Mario sequel. I hope they go back to having multiple stages set in different lands. They sort of did that with Galaxy, and there were a few notable stages, but most had similar bounce from asteroid to planet to asteroid gameplay.

I would love to see them bring back the Koopa kids instead of just Bowser, Jr. as a boss. While they're at it, they could bring back the ability to ride Yoshi and Luigi from the beginning too.

[Cassie]

The Wii desperately needs a new Zelda game, they'd better announce one.



...OK, I desperately need a new Zelda game. :p

[sikkinixx]

The Wii desperately needs a new Zelda game, they'd better announce one.



...OK, I desperately need a new Zelda game. :p

and hopefully one much more original than the snoozefest that was Twilight Princess. And it better not be "Spirit Tracks" for the Wii...

[MacRumorUser]

New mario game ?

Yeah... mario baseball or some other *****....

Chances of proper mario ..... nil.....

[Jeffrosproto]

I know the chances of it happening are basically zilch, but a Wii HD (high def).

[2nyRiggz]

It's going to be a darker gritty Mario title to satisfy the "hardcore" bitchez.

Mario Broz: Shrooms of War.....2010 confirmed...I'm calling it now.

I hope they show all of the survival horror games I've been hearing about.



Bless

[nintendude]

It's going to be a darker gritty Mario title to satisfy the "hardcore" bitchez.

Mario Broz: Shrooms of War.....2010 confirmed...I'm calling it now.

I hope they show all of the survival horror games I've been hearing about.



Bless

This reminds me of a mistake at my local Target a few years ago. Instead of Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time it was Mario and Luigi: Partners in Crime

[e²Studios]

Sadly, I don't expect much "wow" from Nintendo. For sure more games with unneeded "party games" (see shovelware), more EA games that have cartoony characters rather than normal looking ones.

Maybe some proper DSi games.

I find it amusing, Nintendo has the user base but the games on average are just garbage. Yes there are a few gems in the collection but for the most part the majority are just plain *****.

[NoSmokingBandit]

What could possibly be next though?

Super Mario Jungle?
Super Mario Universe?
Super Mario Forest?

Hopefully Nintendo is more creative than i am :P

Super Mario and the Time Traveling Hot Pants.

Its true, i read it on the internet.

[sikkinixx]

Sadly, I don't expect much "wow" from Nintendo. For sure more games with unneeded "party games" (see shovelware), more EA games that have cartoony characters rather than normal looking ones.

Maybe some proper DSi games.

I find it amusing, Nintendo has the user base but the games on average are just garbage. Yes there are a few gems in the collection but for the most part the majority are just plain *****.

http://www.gearcritech.com/images2/2007.07/update23_nintendo.gif

WHO NEEDS GAMES?!

[Sky Blue]

Looks like Super Mario Bros Wii?

http://i41.tinypic.com/16kqtqc.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/34rwyls.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/20l0cp4.jpg

[Dagless]

Just been messing around with the levels in Photoshop and it looks like it says Super Mario Bros with a letter or number after it?

Actually I can't even make out Mario, just Super something Bros with what looks like an A at the end after a space.
No "new" moniker.

[Sky Blue]

The current consensus is it says 'Wii" after the Bros.

[Dagless]

Well hopefully it's Mario 4 or something, be it on disc or WiiWare I'd pay through the nose for a proper 2D Mario sequel (New Mario doesn't count).

And a new 2D Metroid and Zelda on Wiiware or DSiWare wouldn't go amiss too. The visual splendor they could put into a pure pixel game on current day consoles...

[evilgEEk]

I just desperately hope it's better than last year's garbage.

If anyone's interested in a live text/image update, here's Engadget/Joystiq's feed. (http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/02/engadget-and-joystiq-live-from-nintendos-e3-2009-keynote/)

[Dagless]

http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/
http://www.gametrailers.com/e3/video-press-conference/nintendo
If anyone's after a live feed.

[twistedlegato]

:rolleyes:NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That stupid bitch is on stage again! Bad idea Nintendo :mad:

EDIT: Well she seems to be redeeming herself. Not nearly as annoying as she was last year.

This Mario Bros. thing lucks quite fun, but definitely not what i wanted :rolleyes:

[MacRumorUser]

^ Its just Little Big Planet in Mario World :rolleyes:

Mmm I hope that's not their biggest announcement otherwise :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Dagless]

GOLDEN SUN DS.

Oh yes. Sweet god yes.

Like the L4D meets Mario game, but meh I wanted a full single player game. Mario 4 Swords, heh.

[capoeirista]

So they changed the name of Mario & Luigi RPG 3 to .......

Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story


Oh, that's much better.


Also +1 for Golden Sun excitement. Never played the ones on GBA but my flatmates loved it....

[twistedlegato]

If there is so Zelda Wii announcement i'm going to freaking cry. I'm hoping they're just keeping it for their last surprise.

I'm so confused. What the hell is this Vitality sensor......

[Dagless]

Also +1 for Golden Sun excitement. Never played the ones on GBA but my flatmates loved it....

It's an amazing little series. Great setting, art, music, story. The GBA ones were really well made and just flat out brilliant games. It's up there with FFVII and Ocarina of Time as the best RPG evarrr for me.

Overall that whole show was a big meh from me. Red Steel 2 could be good but Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus? No sir. No proper Zelda or a big single player Mario game? No Kid Icarus, no other old titles coming back?

Reggie and that other bloke playing Resort together was laughable. "how did I know you'd say that?"... because it's scripted? d**k.

[twoodcc]

It's an amazing little series. Great setting, art, music, story. The GBA ones were really well made and just flat out brilliant games. It's up there with FFVII and Ocarina of Time as the best RPG evarrr for me.

Overall that whole show was a big meh from me. Red Steel 2 could be good but Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus? No sir. No proper Zelda or a big single player Mario game? No Kid Icarus, no other old titles coming back?

Reggie and that other bloke playing Resort together was laughable. "how did I know you'd say that?"... because it's scripted? d**k.

is the press conference over?

[Taustin Powers]

Do they have to include "Wii" in every game title now?

I mean..."New Super Mario Bros. Wii"??

[Sky Blue]

A Wii Pulse checker ....oh, dear

[twistedlegato]

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2! WITH YOSHI :D

Wow, this looks great :)

[capoeirista]

Do they have to include "Wii" in every game title now?

I mean..."New Super Mario Bros. Wii"??

Wii'll find out soon enough I guess.

Is the conference over? I'm reading it on Engadget, is there a delay here?

[Sky Blue]

Galaxy 2

all over my fffffffaaaaaaccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Cassie]

GOLDEN SUN DS.

Oh yes. Sweet god yes.

Like the L4D meets Mario game, but meh I wanted a full single player game. Mario 4 Swords, heh.

Friggin' awesome. At least SOMETHING good came out of this for me. :) (I hated Super Mario galaxy, I doubt I'll like 2 any better.)

[Sky Blue]

New Metroid


nomnomnom

[twistedlegato]

No....Zelda......


**** you Nintendo

[sarcosis]

Wow... Once again, I am disappointed... I was hoping for something better, since I am not a Metroid Fan. Super Mario and Galaxy 2 are ok, but come one Nintendo, something is missing. After the M$ announcements, I'm left sad...

No...Zelda... :( No Wii HD... :(

[Cassie]

No....Zelda......


**** you Nintendo

:(

[Sky Blue]

Much better conference than last year. I haven't bought a Nintendo game since Wii Fit and the only game I've bought since that was EA Sports Active. I'll definitely pick up the 2 new Mario and Metroid games day one, I'll see what's new in Wii Fit Plus and I'll look at the reviews for Motion Plus.

[kuyu]

Let me try to sum this up...

- Add on for Wiimotes that will probably be required on most games in the future. $$$$
- Pulse checker
- boutique game
- nancy drew game
- zelda screen shot? wtf
- new mario game, new mario game, new mario game, new mario game
+ golden sun
+ metroid with team ninja

Yeah, probably the crappiest e3 presser ever. I only heard applause twice in the entire thing (after galaxy2 and metroid).

We have reached critical mass, the tipping point, the point of no return. Nintendo is officially uncool. Damn.

[Brien]

Metroid and both Mario games look nice.

[evilgEEk]

No new Zelda.... no new F-Zero.

Will Nintendo ever release a new F-Zero game??

I would have rather had a new Zelda instead of Galaxy 2 or Other M.

I think a darker Zelda would have been an awesome project instead of Other M.

Oh well. Galaxy 2 with Yoshi and New Mario Bros. will be fun, as well as Resident Evil and Other M.

The DS is getting less and less interesting for me. Seems like the games are just becoming more gimmicky.

[Dagless]

New Metroid, Mario Galaxy 2, GOLDEN SUN DS. Well I'm content :)

Bit annoyed by no new Zelda, F-Zero or any Pokemon Gold/Silver details. Ho hum.

[zap2]

Would have liked to see Pikmin 3, maybe a PAL/North American news on Pokemon Gold/Silver for DS remakes....still over all nice. Galaxy 2 looks great...as does this NSMB Wii.

[Taustin Powers]

Well, I still see no need to buy a Wii.

Mario Galaxy 2 was the only thing appealing to me in this conference.

In a way, I am glad - saves me some money! :)

[Antares]

Pretty good showing for Nintendo. :) I put them slightly, but only "just" slightly, above Microsoft's conference.

Yay for Mario Galaxy 2 and new Metroid! I wish they would make a Golden Sun for the Wii, though.

[sikkinixx]

Nice, more galaxy! Hardly original but whateva!

[MacRumorUser]

Surprised at Galaxy but it's a good surprise.

Dissapointed by many things though.



To sum up Nintendo's conference for me....


No Pikmin.
No F-Zero.
No WaveRacer.
No Pilotwings.
No Zelda.
No Kid Icarus.
No wii-remote with motion plus built in.


WHY have you forsaken me Nintendo?


but at least there's Galaxy 2 (let's hope it feels like a new game and not just simply a rehash / expansion pack)

[2nyRiggz]

New Mario/Metroid game made me giddy.....everything else is "meh"


Much better than last year Nintendo..


Bless

[NoSmokingBandit]

The new wii sports looks interesting.

SMG2 is going to kick ass.

[Eidorian]

It's all about the Metroid.

[michaelltd]

Loving this Metroid's presentation! I want!

[Dagless]

Gah, there's no Metroid trailer on their press page.

[Jellix]

Again two new mario games, when will we see some new franchises of nintendo. I realy hope nitendo will give me a reason to get my wii back out of his box in the cellar.

[takao]

+ golden sun DS
o mario galaxy 2: expected mroe than a straigth sequel but level looked cool
o metroid game: don't care for metroid but some of those cutscenes look awesome for a nintendo game
o FF crystal bearers: doesn't look half bad
o the archer shooting thing looked ok
- 4 player mario looked halfway ok nothing mind blowing
- vitaly scan thing whatever add on: unless they make it so that you can still hold a nunchuk in hand it's a pointless gimmick.. only then you can get games reacting to your fears ;)
- everything else like the basketball etc.

weakest of all press conferences

edit: you just gotta love nintendo for not showing their own new games in their press conference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcflgnLmgms

[plinkoman]

I was watching this online at the time and actually gave up and went to get some coffee when Iwata started talking about this vitality whatever. I was all ready to be just as disappointed as last year, then I saw there would be Mario Galaxy 2, and an all new Metroid.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: big positive. I was hoping for a new 2d perspective mario. The co-op seems interesting, but I'm glad it isn't a requirement.

Metroid - Other M: what's with that name? I'm skeptical of a third person metroid game after how wonderful the controls on corruption were, but I absolutely liked what I saw, and look forward to trying it.

Zelda - Spirit Tracks: would have liked to see a little more, perhaps a demo, but oh well. Also disappointed not to hear about the new wii Zelda they are no doubt working on. But hey, if it wasn't ready, then it wasn't ready, as long as they are working on it...

Mario Galaxy 2: looking forward to trying out yoshi. I hope this one has more puzzles. the first one was really great in a few places, but a lot of it just seemed bland to me.

The Conduit: three weeks. can't wait.

Wii Sports Resort: i'll get it, it'll probably be fun.

Everything else: LAME


Overall, not bad. Factor 5 and Retro Studios are both working on wii titles, yet neither have talked about what they are yet. (one of them is probably jid icarus) I was hoping to hear that today, but oh well.

[spaceballl]

Pikmin 3

:(:(:(:(:(

Sad this one didn't happen!

[spaceballl]

but at least there's Galaxy 2 (let's hope it feels like a new game and not just simply a rehash / expansion pack)
I'm with you on this one... but... it looks like the same old game, but with Yoshi. Hopefully it's more than just some new levels + yoshi.

[Dagless]

I wouldn't even mind a rehash, Galaxy was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had and the only downside to that game was there wasn't more of it. Infact I hope they don't change it too much and stick with a 100% orchestral soundtrack this time (no midi tracks, as few as they were).

[jaw04005]

Has there ever been a sequel Mario game? I don't get why they would want to revisit Galaxy. It seems like the game engine was already built, so they thought "what the hell."

I loved Galaxy, but creating a direct sequel seems lazy.

However, I'm sure I'll be picking up the majority of the first-party titles shown:

• New Super Mario Bros. Wii
• Wii Fit Plus
• Metroid: M
• Super Mario Galaxy 2
• Wii Sports Resort

[e²Studios]

Has there ever been a sequel Mario game? I don't get why they would want to revisit Galaxy. It seems like the game engine was already built, so they thought "what the hell."

I loved Galaxy, but creating a direct sequel seems lazy.

However, I'm sure I'll be picking up the majority of the first-party titles shown:

• New Super Mario Bros. Wii
• Wii Fit Plus
• Metroid: M
• Super Mario Galaxy 2
• Wii Sports Resort

Every single bullet point can be aligned with what you said in bold.

[nintendude]

Glad to know the Zelda team is working on something :D

http://kotaku.com/5276495/miyamoto-addresses-zeldas-e3-absence

[zap2]

Glad to know the Zelda team is working on something :D

http://kotaku.com/5276495/miyamoto-addresses-zeldas-e3-absence

And some Pikmin love

http://kotaku.com/5276531/miyamoto-sorry-he-has-no-new-pikmin-for-us-yet


Ideally these will be the games come E3 2010, we'll be shipping that holiday season.

That said, I couldn't be more excited for NSMB Wii...wonderful game on the DS, hopefully great again!

[Packersfan27]

Since my only stake on the Big N side of things is the DS, I was a little disappointed.

Maybe I just expected too much after the epic Microsoft keynote?

[n-abounds]

I love the metroid prime games (def. getting the wii control compilation) and this one looks even better...those are some epic, bad*** cut scenes. Metroid Prime is def. in my top 3 games (LoZ:OoT, SSB64).

Overall though, Nintendo's E3 was meh. This was a horrible year for the Wii. But I'm excited for Conduit, Galaxy 2, and Metroid.

Oh, and good call on New Super Mario being Mario4Swords/LittleBigMarioPlanet...ya cynical ppl. ;)

[MacRumorUser]

Overall though, Nintendo's E3 was meh.


Exactly.

Don't get too excited about Metroid 3 & Galaxy 2 though. Remeber they are 2010 releases. You may still here about them again in 12 months time at E32010

[capoeirista]

Has there ever been a sequel Mario game? I don't get why they would want to revisit Galaxy. It seems like the game engine was already built, so they thought "what the hell."


Wasn't SMB2/The Lost Levels a sequel?

I quickly read the headline on destructoid saying that SMBG2 would be '90% new'. To be fair though, I didn't read the full article as I'm at work.

[2nyRiggz]

I must say Metroid: M looks really good but will it be FPA or 2D-3D TPS...it doesn't matter to me because I'm a freak for Metroid and will get it.

Super Mario Wii/SMG2 looks awesome and I can't wait to get my hands on them. These three games along with all of the survival horror games coming out for the Wii will keep me satisfied for a while.



Bless

[jaw04005]

Wasn't SMB2/The Lost Levels a sequel?

You're right. Although "Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels" was never released outside of Japan until it became available on Super Mario All-Stars for SNES.

[twistedlegato]

Miyamoto showed off a Zelda-Wii concept photo at the Nintendo roundtable :D

But no photography was allowed, hopefully Nintendo will release it :(

http://wii.ign.com/articles/989/989996p1.html

Check 7:03PM

EDIT: Well, this explanation is much better.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174564

The last full paragraph is a great excuse from Nintendo about why it didn't show. I guess i can say i'm no longer upset :)

[Dagless]

90% new, what on earth? So it will have recycled levels? Booo.

[twistedlegato]

90% new, what on earth? So it will have recycled levels? Booo.

I don't think that's exactly what he meant by that...

Maybe the stuff that isn't "new" is like the engine and character models and such.

[jaw04005]

I don't think that's exactly what he meant by that...

Maybe the stuff that isn't "new" is like the engine and character models and such.

"Miyamoto said that the original plan was to "essentially create new variations of the worlds in Super Mario Galaxy." But, over time, the developers have had so many ideas that Miyamoto estimates that 90% of the game's levels are all new. The rest, he said, are levels from the original Mario Galaxy with different objectives."

http://kotaku.com/5276440/miyamoto-super-mario-galaxy-2-will-have-90-new-levels

[Dagless]

10% will be what we played before? I'm not liking the sound of this now. L4D 1 and SMG 1 are amazing games that deserve full 100% sequels, no recycled junk (even if it is good junk).

[zap2]

10% will be what we played before? I'm not liking the sound of this now. L4D 1 and SMG 1 are amazing games that deserve full 100% sequels, no recycled junk (even if it is good junk).

Agreed...that said I'll buy both without question. Damn Valve and Nintendo!

[MacRumorUser]

^ Oh so I was right. SMB Galaxy 2 is just a bleeding extension pack. ;)

I'll buy it anyway, and so will all of you. It's not as if we have THAT MANY GREAT WII GAMES coming this year.




Oh as for Metroid Other M. Boo!! I do not need a frickin Ninja Gaiden clone on the Wii, especially one that butchers what has been one of the most successful re-imagining of the series as Metroid 1/2/3 have been on GC/Wii.

I just do not get why they are messing with a critically acclaimed formulae and turning into 'yet another GOfW/Ninja Gaiden slasher'.

Too me it screams 'bad move'....

[Dagless]

^ Oh so I was right.

SMB Galaxy 2 is just a bleeding extension pack. ;)

I'll buy it anyway, and so will all of you. It's not as if we have THAT MANY GREAT WII GAMES coming this year.

Other than GT PSP what is coming this year? And everyone will buy it because it's a sequel to Mario friggin Galaxy! :D
Oh yea I forgot about Bioshock 2 and L4D2.

And hey what about Bioshock 2? That looks quite expansion packish too.

[MacRumorUser]

And hey what about Bioshock 2? That looks quite expansion packish too.

Yeah it does indeed..... I'm not sure after finishing BioShock if I want to play through the same thing again. It's alright saying 'new plasmids' but you only end up using 2 or three anyway. Just not convinced right now that I want this.


And yeah, everything seemingly is 2010 on ALL consoles. Frig them all.

[Jellix]

And hey what about Bioshock 2? That looks quite expansion packish too.

Had the same feeling about that game, but you need to know it isn't developed by the developers of bioshock. They are working on another game (not announced what), that i'm looking forward for.

[BoyBach]

Sin & Punishment 2 (http://e3.nintendo.com/wii/w7/index.html) :eek:

[twistedlegato]

That Zelda picture i was talking about on the previous page, well here it is. It's really low res and blurry, but it kinda made me excited :o

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/18708/4/1.jpg


Edit: Looks like Japan is getting the Wii in black...

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=18761

[2nyRiggz]

So wait a minute...SMG2 will be like an expansion pack rather than a true sequel...sad face:(

Well NSMBWii still looks good and Red Steel is looking up to par as well. 2010 looks to be a good year for the big N(game wise)



Bless

[NoSmokingBandit]

Edit: Looks like Japan is getting the Wii in black...

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=18761
Very pretty.
So wait a minute...SMG2 will be like an expansion pack rather than a true sequel...sad face:(


Very sad.

[jaw04005]

So wait a minute...SMG2 will be like an expansion pack rather than a true sequel...sad face:(=

Not only will it include recycled levels from SMG, it won't have much of a story either. :mad:

"Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto has said that, despite the love fans had for the first game's plot (centred around Rosalina and the adorable Lumas), "I'd like to go with as little story as possible...I've always felt that the Mario games themselves aren't particularly suited to having a very heavy story."

All well and good, except Miyamoto doesn't have as direct a role in the series as he once did. Instead, the job of creating these big Mario games now lies with Yoshiaki Koizumi, who is at odds with his mentor's stance on plot.

"Mr. Koizumi is the type of person who, whenever we're working on a new Mario game, he always wants to bring more story elements into it, as he did with Super Mario Galaxy" Miyamoto says. "But in talking with him this time, he agrees and feels that with Galaxy 2, there won't be a need for as deep of a story"."

http://kotaku.com/5290554/dont-expect-much-story-from-mario-galaxy-2

[MacRumorUser]

^ Oh well.

So it's DEFINITELY an expansion pack. :o:rolleyes::(