Final Cut Studio 3?

[Stang68]

Hey everyone,

I remember hearing rumblings about Final Cut Studio 3 coming out in the near future for us Mac users and then all the news went away. Do we think there is going to be an announcement at WWDC? Is it going to release some time in June? What do you all think?

Thanks!

[norliss]

I certainly there is at least an announcement if not a release.

Having just returned to this whole area and recently been getting up to speed on it all, I suppose I'd like to see AVCHD being handled natively - perhaps in FCE & iMovie too since it is really a consumer format.

Perhaps a new FCP Studio & FCE will be released to coincide with the release of Snow Leopard: that it can take full advantage of the new OS and all this great 64 bit hardware.

[Stang68]

I certainly there is at least an announcement if not a release.

Having just returned to this whole area and recently been getting up to speed on it all, I suppose I'd like to see AVCHD being handled natively - perhaps in FCE & iMovie too since it is really a consumer format.

Perhaps a new FCP Studio & FCE will be released to coincide with the release of Snow Leopard: that it can take full advantage of the new OS and all this great 64 bit hardware.

That last part would be really nice. FCP at 64 bit would be great!

[hvfsl]

Appleinsider has an article about the new version:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/01/final_cut_studio_3_to_bundle_major_motion_soundtrack_upgrades.html

They don't have much new info on it, other than it being optimised for Mac OS X 10.6 (so will probably be released not too long after it) and it still won't support BluRay.

I guess I will have to do all my BluRay creation on a PC as there still aren't any decent solutions on the Mac (you need to buy Premiere to get Adobe's Encore).

[acearchie]

Don't forget that the new FCE wont come out until a few months after studio.

Atleast that's what they did with the last few releases so that it gives that extra incentive to buy studio!

But personally again I would like to see new versions. Maybe with a slight GUI update in final cut as it could be made to look and work a little nicer!

[jammiefreerider]

I dont believe we are only going to see a point increase on Color. It was such a hack jamming it into its present form. Apple wont be forgiven if they dont make it integrate easier, work faster, make it fit on a MBP 17in and generally make it a bit prettier.

I have also heard reports on native AVCHD editing (which in turn should mean easy AVCHD importing of all frame rates). Also Blu-Ray support in DVD Studio Pro.

Also I think the special effects guys will completely lose hope in Apple if they dont hear something about "Phenomenon" in the next couple of weeks.

[EmperorDarius]

I hope they shrink the program...50GB is a bit big for a program.

[Stang68]

Well, at least I know I'm not alone! Heres hoping for an update! Now I just gotta figure out how to get all 55gb of FCS2 off my computer :p

[ChemiosMurphy]

I hope they shrink the program...50GB is a bit big for a program.

Darius, the apps are only 1.4 gigs.... you don't have to install the loops and stuff.

[EmperorDarius]

Darius, the apps are only 1.4 gigs.... you don't have to install the loops and stuff.

I know, I know...but I want all the power, it's much better with all the extra stuff...

[bigbossbmb]

then put all of the FCS content on an external drive where all your other media should be anyway.

[EmperorDarius]

then put all of the FCS content on an external drive where all your other media should be anyway.

I don't have an external drive (I just use my main 1 TB HDD), It's not really that I have a problem with space, I just think it'd be a nice thing if the studio was smaller.

[CaptainChunk]

I don't have an external drive (I just use my main 1 TB HDD), It's not really that I have a problem with space, I just think it'd be a nice thing if the studio was smaller.

So, I suppose you're also using your main drive as your FCP scratch disk?

[EmperorDarius]

So, I suppose you're also using your main drive as your FCP scratch disk?


Yes.

[nyzwerewolf]

thats baaaaaaddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::mad:

u should never use your system disk as your scratch disk!!!!! NEVER.

reasons:
1) your application & your captured media is being read from the same drive = slow speed
2) FCP is reading & writing to the same drive = slow speed
3) when you export a video, your writing to the same drive! so fcp is reading from the same drive!
4) and if your drive dies, your footage is gonnnneeeeee!

add more reasons you ppl!!

your scratch disk MUST be always Firewire 800 drive / SATA II drive / eSATA // if an industry config; they use RAID!

you should get banned from the macrumors bc ur using your main drive as ur scratch disk! :P

[Stang68]

thats baaaaaaddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::mad:

u should never use your system disk as your scratch disk!!!!! NEVER.

reasons:
1) your application & your captured media is being read from the same drive = slow speed
2) FCP is reading & writing to the same drive = slow speed
3) when you export a video, your writing to the same drive! so fcp is reading from the same drive!
4) and if your drive dies, your footage is gonnnneeeeee!

add more reasons you ppl!!

your scratch disk MUST be always Firewire 800 drive / SATA II drive / eSATA // if an industry config; they use RAID!

you should get banned from the macrumors bc ur using your main drive as ur scratch disk! :P

Ok, well you took it a little far...some people just dont know. But I DO agree that you should have an external drive to store all of your video on.

[CaptainChunk]

I dont believe we are only going to see a point increase on Color. It was such a hack jamming it into its present form. Apple wont be forgiven if they dont make it integrate easier, work faster, make it fit on a MBP 17in and generally make it a bit prettier.

Make it prettier? Color is professional grading software and other (and much more expensive) suites like da Vincis and Pandoras don't have pretty interfaces, either. The dark, neutral color scheme in the application have a purpose. A cocoa-style interface with bright backgrounds and pretty buttons wouldn't be beneficial to colorist trying to well, judge proper color.

You shouldn't be running Color with a single display anyway (especially a single laptop display). It was designed for dual displays, and for a good reason. The monitoring display should be properly calibrated and most laptop LCDs are just not accurate enough for grading work.

If anything, Apple should be working on improving Color's integration with FCP - things like better project roundtripping, FCP keyframe and time effects compatibility, etc. would be far more beneficial than making it prettier.

[lyl]

thats baaaaaaddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::mad:

u should never use your system disk as your scratch disk!!!!! NEVER.

reasons:
1) your application & your captured media is being read from the same drive = slow speed
2) FCP is reading & writing to the same drive = slow speed
3) when you export a video, your writing to the same drive! so fcp is reading from the same drive!
4) and if your drive dies, your footage is gonnnneeeeee!

add more reasons you ppl!!

your scratch disk MUST be always Firewire 800 drive / SATA II drive / eSATA // if an industry config; they use RAID!

you should get banned from the macrumors bc ur using your main drive as ur scratch disk! :P
I got a scatch disk
but, should I export the video to the scratch disk? or should I buy another hdd for export?

[Dr.Pants]

I got a scatch disk but, should I export the video to the scratch disk? or should I buy another hdd for export?

I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, but I would hazard a guess that the impact on the disc while rendering would be negligible - think about it. Rendering takes a good amount of time, and I can imagine that FC would be using the RAM nicely while rendering, so the disc's I/Os would be limited to when FC needs to update its information from information stored on-disc.

I could be wrong, but I think an extra HDD for exports might make more sense for organization then reducing disc load.

[Stang68]

I got a scatch disk
but, should I export the video to the scratch disk? or should I buy another hdd for export?

Everything you capture, should go to an external drive. Thats what you SHOULD do, but if you dont want to, thats cool, too. :)

[ChemiosMurphy]

If anything, Apple should be working on improving Color's integration with FCP - things like better project roundtripping, FCP keyframe and time effects compatibility, etc. would be far more beneficial than making it prettier.

+1. I hate having to think like a colorist when i edit things because it is a total PITA to bake clips in and out of FCP for color.

The keyframe issue is probably the worst thing about color because it takes an extreme amount of time to prep the file. I have NO problem using the media manager to transcode an FCP project to ProRes, but having to export and re-import each clip is ridiculous.

The GUI is perfectly fine with me. . . it gets the job done.

[P-Worm]

No update for DVD Studio Pro would be crazy. I believe that would make it 4 years since the last update!

P-Worm

[lighthouse_man]

The thing about the external drive is not true because it's wrong to assume that every editor is working on a laptop.
I've been editing for a long time and the only reason I see a necessity for an external is when you capture from tape on a laptop. Lots of dropped frames otherwise. Now with HD cards, it doesn't even matter. I can edit off a USB2 external if on a laptop.

No update for DVD Studio Pro would be crazy. I believe that would make it 4 years since the last update!

P-Worm


Yes! And hopefully an update that makes the subtitle editing inside much more friendlier.
A price cut ala Logic Studio won't be bad either, and try to catch up Avid!
I love Avid too but their upgrade costs within the same version, like now MC3 to MC3.5 are too much in my view.

Having said that, I don't expect an FCS3 release soon and especially today. The show is already crowded with releases.

[EmperorDarius]

thats baaaaaaddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::mad:

u should never use your system disk as your scratch disk!!!!! NEVER.

reasons:
1) your application & your captured media is being read from the same drive = slow speed
2) FCP is reading & writing to the same drive = slow speed
3) when you export a video, your writing to the same drive! so fcp is reading from the same drive!
4) and if your drive dies, your footage is gonnnneeeeee!

add more reasons you ppl!!

your scratch disk MUST be always Firewire 800 drive / SATA II drive / eSATA // if an industry config; they use RAID!

you should get banned from the macrumors bc ur using your main drive as ur scratch disk! :P

I've just broken down my external HDD a couple of weeks ago, so I won't be getting any new drive soon.
I'm ok with the performance of Final Cut, if I wanted I could create a partition to use as a scratch disk, but I don't really see the need for it.

[lyl]

Everything you capture, should go to an external drive. Thats what you SHOULD do, but if you dont want to, thats cool, too. :)

yea.thats what I do.
i put all my footage into my scratch disk which is a fw800 raid0 hdd
When I export the video, I export to that sratch disk too. my question is, should I export to a different external hdd? but all my other hdds are usb..

[BullBoyKennels]

Appleinsider has an article about the new version:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/01/final_cut_studio_3_to_bundle_major_motion_soundtrack_upgrades.html

They don't have much new info on it, other than it being optimised for Mac OS X 10.6 (so will probably be released not too long after it) and it still won't support BluRay.

I guess I will have to do all my BluRay creation on a PC as there still aren't any decent solutions on the Mac (you need to buy Premiere to get Adobe's Encore).


Actually you can create your B/R videos in FCP using Compressor, but you will need a program to actually burn it to blu ray disc like Toast 9/10 B/R plugin or like you said Encore it self.

[Stang68]

yea.thats what I do.
i put all my footage into my scratch disk which is a fw800 raid0 hdd
When I export the video, I export to that sratch disk too. my question is, should I export to a different external hdd? but all my other hdds are usb..

Well exporting comes down to where you want the file. Sometimes I export to my desktop if I want it on there, other times I'll export to my hard drive where all of my video folders are, and where the capture scratch folder is.

[iPhoneNYC]

I've been expecting a new FCP ever since the new towers came out. If not a release today at least I hope for an announcement.

On another topic, with drives so cheap I would absolutely keep media separate from the program.

[AVR2]

the only reason I see a necessity for an external is when you capture from tape on a laptop. Lots of dropped frames otherwise
I've never experienced that. I can capture an entire movie via FireWire from a DigiBeta tape to my MBP 2.16's internal drive with no problems at all.

In fact, I prefer capturing to the internal drive when I'm away from base, because it means I don't have to carry an external drive around with me. I can always copy the media across to another drive later.

[jammiefreerider]

Make it prettier? Color is professional grading software and other (and much more expensive) suites like da Vincis and Pandoras don't have pretty interfaces, either. The dark, neutral color scheme in the application have a purpose. A cocoa-style interface with bright backgrounds and pretty buttons wouldn't be beneficial to colorist trying to well, judge proper color.

Maybe "pretty" was a bit of a superlative in this case but it still feels like a bit of a hack. So maybe a "tidy up" is what I mean.

You shouldn't be running Color with a single display anyway (especially a single laptop display). It was designed for dual displays, and for a good reason. The monitoring display should be properly calibrated and most laptop LCDs are just not accurate enough for grading work.

Very true but there are plenty of people out there (including myself) who edit in remote locations unable to use a second monitor. Its a crude way of working I know but we want it.

[nyzwerewolf]

I got a scatch disk
but, should I export the video to the scratch disk? or should I buy another hdd for export?

no you don't have to buy another HDD for exporting. You can just choose your system drive for export. This way, the FCP is reading/converting the files from your Scratch Disk, and then dumping the final footage to your System Drive. It will be fast. If you let the FCP dump the final footage to your Scratch Disk, it will be slow depending upon the file size because FCP have to read & write to the same disk.

[nyzwerewolf]

I've been expecting a new FCP ever since the new towers came out. If not a release today at least I hope for an announcement.

On another topic, with drives so cheap I would absolutely keep media separate from the program.

agree! :)

[nyzwerewolf]

Well exporting comes down to where you want the file. Sometimes I export to my desktop if I want it on there, other times I'll export to my hard drive where all of my video folders are, and where the capture scratch folder is.

if you let FCP read & write to the same disk at the same time, you are going to experience slow speed. well, FCP will experience slow speed in reading your captured raw footage & writing your final edited footage.

[EmperorDarius]

So, nothing yet from WWDC.
Btw, should FCS2 and LS work with Snow Leopard?

[nyzwerewolf]

i am sad... no info on FCS3 yet..

[gskowal]

Since the FCS3 is suppose to be 64 bit i was wondering if 4GB of RAM memory is good enough for 64 bit software ? I have 2008 imac which can only take 4GB of RAM unlike the new ones that are up to 8 GB. Will running a 64 bit snow leopard and the 64 bit FCS3 on 4GB of RAM be faster then the FCS2 and 32 leopard on a 4GB RAM? Yes i know IMACs are not that great for handling HD video editing but i cant afford mac pro so i have to deal with an imac for now...

[Fast Shadow]

I don't like the fact that Color's interface is inconsistent with the rest of FCS, but once you learn even the most basic techniques you can see how tremendously powerful it is. Rather than making it prettier I would love to see the integration of Color and FCP made more seamless.

I use both Magic Bullet Looks and Color, and after learning just a little bit of Color's true functionality, it become clear that MB Looks is a blunt tool in comparison. Where MB Looks adds value is that it is much easier to get a desired look in a shorter amount of time, because it has a more intuitive interface. You can blow away your results in Looks with Color, but it takes 3 times as long to get there.

[lighthouse_man]

I've never experienced that. I can capture an entire movie via FireWire from a DigiBeta tape to my MBP 2.16's internal drive with no problems at all.

In fact, I prefer capturing to the internal drive when I'm away from base, because it means I don't have to carry an external drive around with me. I can always copy the media across to another drive later.

What's the speed on the hard drive?
I omitted to mention the ones I've used because 5400 rpm is the standard. Do you have 7200? Or do you capture with the uncontrollable deck setting?

[lighthouse_man]

I don't like the fact that Color's interface is inconsistent with the rest of FCS, but once you learn even the most basic techniques you can see how tremendously powerful it is.

Similar thing happened with Shake. Apple acquired the company and forgot to make it look like an Apple product..

[TheStrudel]

I don't think they forgot it so much as rushed to release it in time. It seemed to me like they acquired Color and all the rights thereto related toward the end of the development cycle and worked overtime to get it working and the bugs cleaned up, leaving refinement for the next revision. That didn't bother most of us, since we were getting an app we didn't even expect essentially for free. Expectations are higher now, though. We take its presence in FCS for granted.

[Stang68]

Heres to hoping we hear something this week.

[CaptainChunk]

Actually you can create your B/R videos in FCP using Compressor, but you will need a program to actually burn it to blu ray disc like Toast 9/10 B/R plugin or like you said Encore it self.

But herein lies the problem - Toast w/the BR plugin works as a crude Blu-ray authoring tool, but it doesn't give you anywhere near the authoring power and flexibility of DVDSP. Encore should be offered as a standalone product for maybe $200-300, but Adobe makes you buy Premiere just to get it. So as an FCP editor, I would be stuck buying NLE software I have no desire to use. There's no rhyme or reason to this, other than Adobe telling users of competitor products to suck it.

Knowing Apple, I think full Blu-ray support (export AND authoring) will continue to be a gaping void in FCS and that's too bad.

[bigbossbmb]

Captain, Encore can only reliably create single-button "play only" Blu-rays... it is still not a viable authoring solution, so don't feel bad about them bundling it with PPro. Right now the only real authoring solutions are PC-only.

as for the complaints about the UI for Color (and Shake was mentioned)... they don't/didn't need face-lifts because the people that use the programs professionally don't really care about having a slick UI. Plus with Color, the reason it looks the way it does is to keep it color-neutral in a grading environment (something that wouldn't necessarily happen if you ported the FCP interface).

[TheStrudel]

Doubt we'll hear anything about it this week. My guess is that it'll be released after the launch of Snow Leopard. I am very much looking forward to it, because we should see huge performance increases across the board. I will be disappointed with no Blu-ray authoring support in DVDSP, but I won't be surprised either.

[Rychy]

Oh well, here's hoping it arrives around the same time as Snow Leopard. I'm guessing it'll greatly benefit from it's advances.

I'm also really hoping for Blu-Ray support, but I'm not going to hold my breathe.

[Its Trish]

you should get banned from the macrumors bc ur using your main drive as ur scratch disk! :P

nyzwerewolf, have you thought about
applying for the new forum moderator job?

[Its Trish]

Oh well, here's hoping it arrives around the same time as Snow Leopard.
FCE 4 came out in November 2007.
Looks like it's gonna be a full 2 years before FCE 5 gets here.

trish : - )

[Truffy]

Plus with Color, the reason it looks the way it does is to keep it color-neutral in a grading environment (something that wouldn't necessarily happen if you ported the FCP interface).
Giving Color a more intuitive interface in line with the rest of the suite doesn't imply removing its colour neutrality though, just making it look less overtly like an afterthought (which it kinda was at the time of FCS2, of course). And if you're using a second calibrated monitor for review, the colour of the interface should/could be less of an issue. But I agree, it's the integration/round-tripping that needs most work.

[bigbossbmb]

Giving Color a more intuitive interface in line with the rest of the suite doesn't imply removing its colour neutrality though, just making it look less overtly like an afterthought (which it kinda was at the time of FCS2, of course).

I don't see what the fuss over the UI is all about... pro grading apps have similar UI's because they are the most effective for the process. if people want the capability of a pro app, then learn how to really use it. the UI doesn't hold you back from it. Apple has really spoiled users with their innovation. I hope they remove the "auto-balance" button from Color... it's utterly useless.

And if you're using a second calibrated monitor for review, the colour of the interface should/could be less of an issue. But I agree, it's the integration/round-tripping that needs most work.

I don't think you've ever seen a professional grading suite then... For truly professional color correction, the lighting is always done at a controlled color temp and the walls are kept a neutral gray. It is a lot more than just keeping the broadcast monitor calibrated, it's keeping the entire environment color neutral.

[Truffy]

I don't think you've ever seen a professional grading suite then.You're bang on the nail there, but that's not really the point I was trying to get across.
For truly professional color correction, the lighting is always done at a controlled color temp and the walls are kept a neutral gray. It is a lot more than just keeping the broadcast monitor calibrated, it's keeping the entire environment color neutral.
For me, the colour of the UI isn't really a problem, any more than Aperture's. The fact that it looks like it was designed by Kai Krause's less talented brother is another matter.

[bigbossbmb]

For me, the colour of the UI isn't really a problem, any more than Aperture's. The fact that it looks like it was designed by Kai Krause's less talented brother is another matter.

I fail to see how Color's interface would keep someone from doing their job. The only thing that needs changing is in functionality/stability. Wider codec support, better translation of the FCP timeline, simple effects translation (ie speed changes), stuff like that. Color's UI is functional... it does what it needs to.

[KeithPratt]

The look of interface doesn't bother me either, but they've certainly had enough time to "pretty" it up a bit.

[Stang68]

I fail to see how Color's interface would keep someone from doing their job. The only thing that needs changing is in functionality/stability. Wider codec support, better translation of the FCP timeline, simple effects translation (ie speed changes), stuff like that. Color's UI is functional... it does what it needs to.

The look of the application just does not match up to what Final Cut and Motion have, for example. It looks like it doesnt belong in that box at all! If they made the overall UI a little better, you wouldnt be hearing any complaint from me.

[ChemiosMurphy]

Stang, you can't have the GUI match. Colorists need an extremely color neutral space so that it does not impact their work. I strongly urge you to take a peak at Da Vinci 2k+ GUI to see what i mean.

[LethalWolfe]

If Apple wants to change the font and the shape of the dialog boxes to something more Apple-like fine. But please only do that after all the major problems w/Color (and there are a lot of them) get fixed first.


Lethal

[Truffy]

I fail to see how Color's interface would keep someone from doing their job.
I guess I fail to see how making Color's interface more attractive and in line with other FCS applications could be a 'bad thing'. Forget the colour of the UI, I fully agree that that should stay the same (heck, I could live with it if FCP and others took the same approach). But the workflow/integration could be less obtuse and, frankly, the UI less goddam ugly.

That said, an overhaul of the UI isn't the highest on the list of things that need to be addressed.

Peace.

[P-Worm]

With the Open CL announcement, I'm wondering what is going to be the best course of action when FCS 3 is announced. I have a 2006 Mac Pro and there are no graphics cards for this machine that will enable h.264 encoding and Open CL (although I have read many reports that putting the HD 4870 (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB999ZM/A) in will work as long as you have 10.5.7 installed).

Also, it appears that Apple is using NVidia cards more and more. This doesn't bode well with Color users (which is made specifically for ATi cards) unless they update Color in FCS 3 to work the same on both card platforms.

I was upset about today's Open CL requirements announcement, but I guess I can't be too angry; my computer is almost 3 years old, after all. Let's just say that I am eagerly awaiting FCS 3's system requirements.

P-Worm

[Chaos123x]

I think the new release of FCS is going to be Snow Leopard only.


As for Color interface hindering work I say yes it does.

It controls totally goofy like it is on it's own operating system, some logical simple things like opening a file are baffling at first because it acts like no other program out there.


It's a powerful program but I doubt it was program designed to be used as apart of suite for prosumer and home video business people. I bet it was made for a full time colorist who is always using just that one program and it shows.

[acearchie]

So now WWDC has passed when is the next chance for it to be realeased? A special event as I am unawares to any big expos that it could be released at...

[LethalWolfe]

It's a powerful program but I doubt it was program designed to be used as apart of suite for prosumer and home video business people. I bet it was made for a full time colorist who is always using just that one program and it shows.
So instead of users taking a small amount of time to learn the interface (after a couple hours w/an instructional video I knew the Color UI inside and out) you think Apple should just dumb the whole thing down? That would just suck. For users that find Color too intimidating they should just stick to the 3-Way in FCP or use 3rd party products like Colorista or Magic Bullet Looks.


Lethal

[Carl Spackler]

It's a powerful program but I doubt it was program designed to be used as apart of suite for prosumer and home video business people. I bet it was made for a full time colorist who is always using just that one program and it shows.

If I have my history right, it was a stand-alone product that Apple purchased in incorportated in to Final Cut Studio, which is why it looks so different. I kinda like the no frills interface, but do wish they'd updated the "Finder" portion of the app. Still, I think Final Touch alone cost probably, more than Final Cut Studio 2.

[LethalWolfe]

If I have my history right, it was a stand-alone product that Apple purchased in incorportated in to Final Cut Studio, which is why it looks so different. I kinda like the no frills interface, but do wish they'd updated the "Finder" portion of the app. Still, I think Final Touch alone cost probably, more than Final Cut Studio 2.
Final Touch 2k, which is what Color is today, was a 25k app.


Lethal

[ajhill]

Color doesn't have the look and feel of the other apps. I've always thought the folder icons in Color were ridiculous looking.

Top most must be interoperability. There's a lot of things that don't work in Color that you just have to live with, or ignore.

As to FCS 3 being Snow Leopard only? Why would anyone complain? Snow Leopard is 64bit and only costs $30 to upgrade. Why would you want to use FCS 3 on Leopard?

Al

[freeboot]

i'll tell you when FCS3 will be released. it will come out sometime within two weeks after i finally decided to upgrade to FCS2. this is exactly what has happened to me with the last two upgrades -_-;

so when i scrape together the money to upgrade i'll let you all know =P

[Its Trish]

Final Cut Studio....

Final Cut Studio 3 has been released
( http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=751857 )
and includes Final Cut Pro 7.


Final Cut Express....

I'm waiting for Final Cut Express 5
(FCE 4 due for a new version for like 2 years now!!!)
hopefully FCE 5 will be out within a month.

Also worth noting, FCE 4 now supports AVC HD.
( http://www.apple.com/finalcutexpress )
This may be an indication FCE 5 is coming.

[THX1139]

Final Cut Studio....

Final Cut Studio 3 has been released
( http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=751857 )
and includes Final Cut Pro 7.


Final Cut Express....

I'm waiting for Final Cut Express 5
(FCE 4 due for a new version for like 2 years now!!!)
hopefully FCE 5 will be out within a month.

Also worth noting, FCE 4 now supports AVC HD.
( http://www.apple.com/finalcutexpress )
This may be an indication FCE 5 is coming.

Good looking out, but this is really old news. I've had FCS 3 on my computer for a few weeks now. Anyone who uses Final Cut knows about the release... well, except maybe you. ;)

[Its Trish]

Good looking out, but this is really old news. I've had FCS 3 on my computer for a few weeks now. Anyone who uses Final Cut knows about the release... well, except maybe you. ;)

Hi THX1139,

Yes, it's true, I did not make that post
immediately after the software release.

But then again, I'm not a forum moderator
or gatekeeper or anything like that...
I'm just some average schmoe who noticed
that this thread needed to be updated
with some recent info, so I did it.

I've had FCS 3 on my computer for a few weeks now.Just curious, why didn't you update this thread
when you first found out about the release? ;)

trish : - )

[acearchie]

Hi THX1139,

Yes, it's true, I did not make that post
immediately after the software release.

But then again, I'm not a forum moderator
or gatekeeper or anything like that...
I'm just some average schmoe who noticed
that this thread needed to be updated
with some recent info, so I did it.

Just curious, why didn't you update this thread
when you first found out about the release? ;)

trish : - )


Trish, not meaning to be picky but he probably didn't update the thread due to it being in several other places on the site. I myself even had a thread on it!

After all the wait though I do wish it had more features!!!!