Microsoft: IE and standards... HA!

[mnkeybsness]

IE FAQs (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/evaluation/faq/default.asp)

Scroll to the bottom of the page and check out the second question in the Internet Standards Support section.

Q. Is Internet Explorer committed to implementing standard X in the future?
A. Microsoft is committed to implementing the Internet standards that make sense to allow our customers to build great solutions. As standards emerge, we evaluate them to see which standards might best serve our customers' needs.

and just above that, they point out that they are still working on CSS1 support!

I point this out because I am in the process of redesigning my site (once again) and am getting frustrated with Internet Explorer's lack of standards support (AGAIN).

[stoid]

Microsoft does support standards though.....

Its standards.

[Fukui]

IE FAQs (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/evaluation/faq/default.asp)

Scroll to the bottom of the page and check out the second question in the Internet Standards Support section.



and just above that, they point out that they are still working on CSS1 support!

I point this out because I am in the process of redesigning my site (once again) and am getting frustrated with Internet Explorer's lack of standards support (AGAIN).
Why don't you just get a head start and re-write you website in XAML that way your ready for longhorn... :D

Seriously though, thats a monopoly for you...you cater their needs instead of the other way around...

[michaelrjohnson]

This is one of the more frustrating issues facing web designers today. Very irritating.

[cjc343]

I know there are ways (using javascript) to identify the user's browser... I vote you redirect all traffic from IE to a "redirection" page, quickly explaining that IE sucks, and that if they want to access any good webpages they should stop using it, after which you show them a good alternate browser...



Yeah, it would piss them off..... but if I were creating a website, and I was having IE problems, that would be what I would do....

[Benjamin]

I know there are ways (using javascript) to identify the user's browser... I vote you redirect all traffic from IE to a "redirection" page, quickly explaining that IE sucks, and that if they want to access any good webpages they should stop using it, after which you show them a good alternate browser...

Yeah, it would piss them off..... but if I were creating a website, and I was having IE problems, that would be what I would do....

I have done this, it is pretty funny imo, but I only did it because the % of IE users is so low for the site. (http://www.applelegal.com) however on my other site, and maybe future AL updates.. I have used the php script to switch css files instead.

[JFreak]

for long term, it's better to piss off users of sub-standard browsers now; if we just adapt to sub-standards, that becomes a standard - it's the other way: micro**** should adapt to standards and play nice with the rest of the world.

but they tend to think they own everything they put their fingerprint into, including the world wide web. it's so sad that inferior product dominates...

[encro]

I have done this, it is pretty funny imo, but I only did it because the % of IE users is so low for the site. (http://www.applelegal.com) however on my other site, and maybe future AL updates.. I have used the php script to switch css files instead.

Except for the fact your identifier list isn't very intelligent!

Even browsers you recommend set with their proper ID are locked out initially.

P.S.
Set your download links with proper URL's to the download page rather than each companies home page.

[Rower_CPU]

Personally, I think browser sniffing is not the way to go and just results in poor future compatibility. Code to the standards, test widely and let your design degrade gracefully.

[mnkeybsness]

I tried using IE7 (http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/intro/) to see what would happen to the current design I'm working on that works perfectly with Safari and Mozilla browsers. When I used Internet Explorer it was even more messed up than when I wasn't linking the IE7 style sheet. The only thing that seemed to work correctly was the PNG transparency for images and transparent background PNG images. Does anyone know of a PNG fix that will work for both regular and background images (specifically embedded in my CSS)? The two that I have tried do not work :(.

[FattyMembrane]

As standards emerge, we evaluate them to see which standards might best serve our customers' needs.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
so now it's microsoft's job to determine which standards are important?
what if an american lumber yard just decided to start cutting boards in metric units because it felt like it?

[Benjamin]

Except for the fact your identifier list isn't very intelligent!

Even browsers you recommend set with their proper ID are locked out initially.

P.S.
Set your download links with proper URL's to the download page rather than each companies home page.

how so? browser does it break for? It is the php driven IDer.. anyway.. I don't control the dl links that is for editors.