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Mr. Anderson
May 11, 2004, 08:34 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/11/news/international/chiquita.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

wow, now there's something wrong with that - I'm sure its going to hurt business and it makes you wonder about the details of the whole thing. And it seems they're not the only company doing it.....

Sad, actually,

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MongoTheGeek
May 11, 2004, 09:13 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/11/news/international/chiquita.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

wow, now there's something wrong with that - I'm sure its going to hurt business and it makes you wonder about the details of the whole thing. And it seems they're not the only company doing it.....

Sad, actually,

D

It is very widespread. There is an oil company being sued for providing money to Philippine terrorists for security purposes. They are being sued by relatives of someone unrelated to the company that was kidnapped and murdered by the terrorists.

There is a reason why people are not kidnapped in the US. It hasn't been profitable for 200 years. By paying for such things outside the country we encourage it.

Watch "Ransom". not the one with Mel Gibson but the original one with Glenn Ford and Leslie Neilson (In a dramatic role!)

Mr. Anderson
May 11, 2004, 09:17 AM
By paying for such things outside the country we encourage it.

that's the sad part.... its just easier for the companies to pay off the terrorists than have to protect their property.... unless someone stands up to them, its not going to stop. But its a matter of the bottom line - money seems to be more important than lives... bleh,

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MongoTheGeek
May 11, 2004, 09:25 AM
that's the sad part.... its just easier for the companies to pay off the terrorists than have to protect their property.... unless someone stands up to them, its not going to stop. But its a matter of the bottom line - money seems to be more important than lives... bleh,

D

It puts them in a really ugly catch-22 though. They could be accused of being so greedy that they refuse to pay money to save lives.

wdlove
May 11, 2004, 11:50 AM
It is a very sad commentary on life outside of the United States, although I wouldn't be surprised if in certain areas protection money is still paid here.
Greed is a sad thing, these gangs will continue as longs as they have a willing customer.

virividox
May 11, 2004, 01:04 PM
omg by eating bananas i support terrorists...say it isnt so

Mr. Anderson
May 11, 2004, 01:17 PM
omg by eating bananas i support terrorists...say it isnt so

And I like bananas - I might go out of my way to get other than Chiquita, but the thing is that Dole or any of the other companies might be doing the same. Chiquita is the only one admitting it.....

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obeygiant
May 11, 2004, 01:23 PM
http://raffi.ytmnd.com/

wdlove
May 11, 2004, 01:42 PM
http://raffi.ytmnd.com/

Nice tune. I just wonder if there are any other food companies are paying protection money. :(

Mr. Anderson
May 11, 2004, 01:44 PM
Its not a matter of if, just which ones....

obeygiant - I hate those sites, way too lame.... :D

D

Awimoway
May 11, 2004, 02:01 PM
It is a very sad commentary on life outside of the United States, although I wouldn't be surprised if in certain areas protection money is still paid here.
Greed is a sad thing, these gangs will continue as longs as they have a willing customer.

It just goes to show that we don't live in the safe little cocoon we imagine ourselves in. America is not an island. Life outside the United States is lousy in some ways precisely because life inside the United States is so nice. It's the old saw about how no one wants to see how the sausage is made. Many of the cheap products we enjoy come at a much greater price for someone else in the world. Slave labor in China comes to mind. The average American's ignorance in these matters only enrages the rest of the world more.

Will I boycott Chiquita over this? What would that accomplish? Would I sleep better at night? I doubt it. There is just no way of knowing if the competition is any more aboveboard. I remember hearing an activist on criminal labor practices in China say that he can't boycott any single brand because pretty much everything is tainted but there is often no way of knowing for sure. You have to challenge the problem directly, not with boycotts.

BrianKonarsMac
May 11, 2004, 05:21 PM
u guys do know that every major company does this right? pointing the finger at Chiquita does nothing. Monte Del Sol, Doll, any oil company, De Beers, the list goes on.

I think De Beers has a small army however.
Will I boycott Chiquita over this? What would that accomplish? Would I sleep better at night? I doubt it. There is just no way of knowing if the competition is any more aboveboard. I remember hearing an activist on criminal labor practices in China say that he can't boycott any single brand because pretty much everything is tainted but there is often no way of knowing for sure. You have to challenge the problem directly, not with boycotts.
you are absolutely correct, most companies are owned by massive conglomerates, so by boycotting a portion of a conglomerate, you are still likely supporting it by purchasing wares through seperate divisions of theres. Its like Toyota and Lexus (i know they have nothing to do with this, just came to mind) even if you boycott Lexus' cause you dont like luxury cars, if you buy Toyota, your still supporting their bottom line.