What games should be ported to the Mac.

[Ninja_Turtle]

im tired of PC users getting all good games first than the Mac users, now i just want to know, what games should be ported to the Mac, i want to know your opinion, Im also tired of companys porting the most lamest games that no ones going to buy on the Mac, for example, they are porting TRON 2.0, all i have to say is that game looks terrible, and also Tomb Raider games are old, let her go, stop porting them! Port games that are actually POPULAR!!!... The Games I think that should be ported to the Mac include:

Half-Life
Counter Strike
GunBound
GTA3
GTA:Vice City
Roller Coster Tycoon

even tho GTA3 and GTA:Vice City are already on PS2, being available on the Mac could boost the graphics and performance on the game, thus making it more enjoyable. Thanks, Id like to hear what you have to say.

PS: dont tell me that Counter Strike is a mod of Half Life, I know, but its also a stand alone game. So just dont post back in rage saying "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH CS is HL MOD" :D :) ;)

[Krizoitz]

Give me Final Fantasy XI and I'll be content.

[Veldek]

I want FarCry, but Half-Life would have been cool. I don't like CS very much, but I love Day of Defeat and wish I could play it on a Mac. But we get Call of Duty and BF1942, so I'll be happy soon. Now just get me FarCry...

[Mord]

iwould just like them to be released at the same time as the pc version so i dont have to wait for a port

I want Republic

[russed]

fifa 2004, enough said! mac is seriously lacking football games! when saying football i mean the proper football as in british football!

[ecche]

URU (for old times sake). Why they released this game fro windows only is beyond me. Haven't mac users made Myst big in the first place? Ingrates!

[Sheebahawk]

call of duty, and mac doesnt need portws it needs originals

[cubist]

Rise of Nations (and its expansion pack).

Now that we have X Plane and Total Immersion Racing, I think we're OK in those two areas.

[grapes911]

This is kind of a stupid topic. I think all mac users would agree that ALL games should be available for mac.

[Mord]

fifa 2004, enough said! mac is seriously lacking football games! when saying football i mean the proper football as in british football!


as much as I like snearing at the yanks, saying tally ho while playing x-plane and hateing the french, I can see no excuse for likeing football games expecially fifa

[kgarner]

fifa 2004, enough said! mac is seriously lacking football games! when saying football i mean the proper football as in british football!

I prefer Brazillian football, but that's probably because I lived there for two years. :D

[parrothead]

Empire Earth would be great to have on Mac. I really enjoy playing it on the PC I have access to.

[bousozoku]

I'm pretty happy with what's already coming, but it would be nice if my old games were able to run natively. :)

[mattmack]

I think Battlefield 1942 will be enough for me when I buy a new powerbook
:)

[Benjamin]

Half-Life 2
Halo 2
Rise of Nations
FarCry

[Swiftstorm]

Rise of Nations
BF: 1942
CS
All GTA series!!!!!! (used to be a petition for GTA2 for mac at a website)
Farcry


But I don't NEED these. Macintosh gaming at the moment is pretty good compared with a few years back (mid 90s) when we had few developers and they were all old by the time they reached us.

[aswitcher]

BF1942 will be nice

Doom 3 would be very cool.

[Doraemon]

DTM/Toca Race Driver 2

http://www.codemasters.co.uk

[yamabushi]

I would like to see a further refined version of Shogun: Total War. This "port plus" could perhaps add a multiplayer campaign mode and more castle battle maps in addition to bug fixes and other enhancements. Call it the Platinum Edition and release it only on Mac OSX.

[applekid]

Half-Life
Counter Strike
GunBound
GTA3
GTA:Vice City
Roller Coster Tycoon

Let me clear up a few things...

Half Life got to a beta version before being canned. Consequently, CS never saw the day of light on the Mac in any form. Sierra withdrew because they didn't have the resources to maintain updates to keep the Mac version up to date to the PC version. I'll cut them some slack since we were just getting out of our "dark gaming age." There should be an article out there somewhere.

As far as GTA3/GTA:VC goes, someone at Rockstar said they were interested in developing a Mac game. That usually means it'll take a long while before we see anything. I doubt GTA3/VC will ever come, but maybe another upcoming version.

Rollercoaster Tycoon has no chance at all. Nearly purely written in Intel assembly. It's not gonna happen.

The only two games I see plausible are FarCry and Half Life 2. Halo 2 has no PC plans so far, unless I'm mistaken.

Just being realistic.

[krimson]

How bout Singles (http://www.singles-the-game.de/)?? :D

[vsp]

I'd love to see Disciples II ported. Seems like it might be a good choice. Addictive gameplay so it has a long shelf life, not a CPU hog or visually demanding (very pretty though). They keep re-releasing the damn thing on PCs with just a few scenarios added so the company is certainly into milking this one game for all it's worth. What's the hold up?

Did the Thief games ever get ported? They were fun and the new one looks good.

Vince

[windowsblowsass]

fifa 2004, enough said! mac is seriously lacking football games! when saying football i mean the proper football as in british football!
you may like this site (http://www.soccersucks.org)

[Ozi]

CS... definantly CS.

*cries*

~ozi

[Danrose1977]

I vote Rise of Nations...

Far Cry and Doom3 are being Xbox ported so I don't really need them.

[Xerocs]

hrm

GTA III & VC,
Wolfenstein enemy territory,
Need For speed

[mattmack]

PS: dont tell me that Counter Strike is a mod of Half Life, I know, but its also a stand alone game. So just dont post back in rage saying "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH CS is HL MOD" :D :) ;)
My take on the half life thing is that they couldn't get the multi player to be crossplatform compatable which was the main reason to port the game of half life. It is a ddecent single player game but its appeal was in the multi player mods or now stand alone games. Unless there is a rich investor who is a sucker for hard luck cases half life will never see OS X and neither will CS or DOD, but in my opinion there are several good alternatives to those games on the mac right now.

[noxes]

We Canadian Mac users need a good hockey game, preferably EA's NHL series.

[quagmire]

I think us mac people should get some WWI and WWII games like Sceret Weapons over Normandy. Apple should make a pearl harbor game that lets us defend pearl harbor and continue intill 1945 and let us drop the atomics on japan flying the B-29 and for bonus points return to the base and land. You would still beat the mission but you will be able to get some extra points in there. You would make it according how many times you mess around with the plane and how much fuel you waste. I also gree to get GTA vice city and san andreas when it come out.

[bnemesis]

Anyone see Evil Genius at E3?

Its kind of a spoof on secret agent movies where you get to be the evil genius. you pick your secret lair, your henchmen's outfits, etc..

Sort of like Dungeon Keeper.

We must have it on the Mac.

http://www.howevilareyou.com/ :D

[bux]

hmmm... games that I would like to get ported:
RTCW: Enemy Territory
and... yeah... Battlefield Vietnam... don't have to be ported soon, but it would be nice if it got ported... well Battlefield 1942 will be out soon can it be better?! :)

[Veldek]

Apple should make a pearl harbor game that lets us defend pearl harbor and continue intill 1945 and let us drop the atomics on japan flying the B-29 and for bonus points return to the base and land.

What's wrong with you, dude? That would be like making a game where you are the leader of a concentration camp. It's just very bad taste.

[quagmire]

What's wrong with you, dude? That would be like making a game where you are the leader of a concentration camp. It's just very bad taste.

Sorry, I didn't mean anything offensive. Seceret Weapons over normandy has some missions where thousands died like the battle for midway. It is ac really good game about the British fight against germany and the U.S against Japan.

[Veldek]

Sorry, I didn't mean anything offensive. Seceret Weapons over normandy has some missions where thousands died like the battle for midway. It is ac really good game about the British fight against germany and the U.S against Japan.

Allright then. I don't have anything against war games and I do like WWII shooters, too. But the atomic bomb in Japan was mass murder in my opinion and shouldn't be a plot for a game.

Isn't Secret Weapons a BF1942 mod? Then you have a good chance we will see it as BF1942 is being ported right now.

[quagmire]

Allright then. I don't have anything against war games and I do like WWII shooters, too. But the atomic bomb in Japan was mass murder in my opinion and shouldn't be a plot for a game.

Isn't Secret Weapons a BF1942 mod? Then you have a good chance we will see it as BF1942 is being ported right now.

Don't know about being it a BF1942 mod. But, if it is , I will get it on one condition, it doesn't take up half of my ram installing it.

[MontgomeryBurns]

TRIBES, TRIBES 2, and TRIBES: VENGEANCE

[Nermal]

Half-Life 2
Halo 2
City of Heroes
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy X or X-2 would be nice too :)

[isus]

i wanna see some good racing games... midnight club 2 and nfs:u would be nice to have.

[MyLeftNut]

Im glad to see Homeworld 2 coming to the Mac. Ive played the PC version and I thoroughly enjoyed the franchise. The only caveat, due to Microsofts Direct X requirements I think multiplayer can only be with other Mac users.

Actually there arent enough good RTS games at all. Im not a big game player but more strategy would be nice, Im tired of the I'll shoot you before you shoot me games. While the graphics and atmosphere has improved over the years the gameplay remains the same. :cool: :D

[Veldek]

Don't know about being it a BF1942 mod. But, if it is , I will get it on one condition, it doesn't take up half of my ram installing it.

I just looked it up and it isn't. I messed it up with "Secret Weapons of WWII". Wow, I didn't know, there are so many different "Secret Weapons" games...

[jemeinc]

you may like this site (http://www.soccersucks.org)


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[AhmedFaisal]

... a console on PCI type of card. Meaning instead of having to buy a PS2 or a GameCube I buy a PCI card that will allow me to play my console Games on my Mac, that would be really neat. People who think this is far fetched, think again, there is System on PCI type of cards already.
Regards,

Ahmed

[Dreadnought]

Need for Speed (every part of it!) and project Gotham. The Mac lacks good racing games!

[mishi]

i would love 2 see CS running on macs arround the world with compatibility to PC's, i know the CS engine is very old and CS 2 has just come out but it can't be that hard for them to porter CS onto mac, and mac users would love whoever did it forever =) and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.....................................................

[Sol]

I would love to see the Formula 1 management game by EA ported to the Mac. We allready have the graphics engine thanks to Feral Interactive and their port of F1 CS 2000.

There was a futuristic racing game on the PlayStation called Rollcage that would be a great port if online multi-player was added to it.

Roger Wilco, the voice-chat software should have been ported to Mac yesterday. Every good Mac game would benefit from this.

Silent Hill or Resident Evil should be ported because there has been no horror on the Mac since Undying.

Last but not least, Vib-Ribbon should make his Mac debut as a visualiser for iTunes.

[Macdantheman07]

FarCry, CS, CZ baby! I wrote to the makers of CS and told them how much money they could probably make if they ported it because many people in the Mac community would buy it if it were reasonably priced like $29-39.

Battlefield Vietnam

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[mattmack]

... a console on PCI type of card. Meaning instead of having to buy a PS2 or a GameCube I buy a PCI card that will allow me to play my console Games on my Mac, that would be really neat. People who think this is far fetched, think again, there is System on PCI type of cards already.
Regards,

AhmedThat is a great idea, but would probably be bought and shelved by Sony/Nintendo/Midrosoft or whoever else would lose money in the deal :(

[Veldek]

FarCry, CS, CZ baby! I wrote to the makers of CS and told them how much money they could probably make if they ported it because many people in the Mac community would buy it if it were reasonably priced like $29-39.

Battlefield Vietnam

Well, CS is based on the HL engine and a port was in development some years ago. They halted development because of the missing Mac/PC networking IIRC (just do a search and you will find the whole truth). That's why you won't see CS coming out for the Mac as long as the source code isn't released and some smart developer is able to make it work on a Mac.

And yes, there is a standalone version, but I bet (though I don't know for sure) that it's just the required HL files and the mod files bundled together, so it's the same thing.

[sfvmacdude]

One of the biggest things i've missed since I switched over to the Mac from PC is the EASports games. Its sad that there hasn't been any game since Madden 2002.

[russed]

One of the biggest things i've missed since I switched over to the Mac from PC is the EASports games. Its sad that there hasn't been any game since Madden 2002.

yeh fifa 2004, infact any fifa game, even fifa 1997. infact, just a football game!

[cubist]

That is a great idea, but would probably be bought and shelved by Sony/Nintendo/Midrosoft or whoever else would lose money in the deal :(

(re a pci card console game machine)

How about a modified game console with a firewire or usb2 port? It wouldn't need a drive or a video card... Nah, I guess that's a stupid idea too. How about an officially sanctioned emulator? I just recently got a doodad which lets me use Playstation controllers on PC or Mac.

[Santaduck]

Space Channel 5 & Samba de Amigo :cool:

[comictimes]

everything already said, plus Need For Speed Underground...

[neoelectronaut]

-Grim Fandango
-Max Payne 2
-Rayman 2 (Even though I already have the PC and DC versions, and used to have the N64 one. :P)
-All Legacy of Kain games.
...and uh...as for PC-released games...I dunno.

[PismoGuy]

Deus Ex (port for Mac OS X)<<< Would be very nice.
Deus Ex: Invisible War <<< MUST HAVE
Unreal 2
Doom 3
Empire Earth
Civ 3 expansions
Summoner 2
NWN expansions and better codeing. < unless its just my system.

But over all I would like to see more games and better support.... I don't care what type (excluding small crappy $5-$15 games; there's enough of those)

[mac4drew]

I just don't understand why devs with popular games like CS don't release them for mac. It makes sense, especially since the market for CS PC has long since become exhausted. Multiplayer might be a challenge, but they did it for Halo and tons of other PC games before it, so it can be done. If they ported it to mac they could sell it for $40 and no one would complain because everyone would realize that it takes money to port games. They would make a ton of money, and Mac users would have our game.

The only games in which it's acceptable that I haven't seen a Mac version are little startup companies that don't have the money to risk releasing the product to such a small percentage of the market. It bothers me to see large companies investing in the mac because it's almost an arrogant attitude.

That having been said, I don't like computer games anyway. I much prefer console games because they don't involve me pouring a ton of money into keeping my system updated, the performance is universally good across the whole platform, and there are no annoying peripherals (Joysticks, Steering wheels) to configure. We are nearing the end of the lives of the Big Three gaming consoles, (Xbox, PS2 and GameCube) and this is around the time when Gamers always cling to the PC, citing better graphics. It's not enough for me to want to deal with upgrading my video card and buying more RAM when I can play it at almost the same quality for the same price on a Console. And when the new consoles come out that won't even be a good argument for at least two years.

[Mord]

Space Channel 5 & Samba de Amigo :cool:

i so badly want a DC emulator but the games were on GD-roms so a cd-rom can only read the first half

[sebaz]

I would like to see Wolfenestein: Enemy Territory for Mac.

[Ari_0]

Ok so I used to have a pc, three of them, two costum built with my bare hands. Although, I am going to convert to Mac very soon. I had enough of XP problems/crashes etc to last me a lifetime.

I will be very likely to get a PowerBook 12" Superdrive Mac with 512 RAM upgrade. It has a good GPU. My only quarrel is the lack of L337 Mac Games. Hoping that some sort of miracle would occur whereby the developers see this post, I want these on my Powerbook:

1- GTA3 <-- the best ever.
2- C&C ZeroHour (expansion of the already ported Generals).
3- Deus Ex2 <--- needs a miracle.
4- Driv3r <--- 2006 maybe?
There is this one other game, I used to play it on PSX on my old gaming days.
*sigh* It was a sort of puzzle whereby the puzzle is in 3D, the backgrounds were sky, Lava, space etc. You controlled the ball by pressing a direction (each click on a direction made it move once) and you could some crazy combos like flipping the puzzle by making the ball go upwards (think 3d here) as opposed to accross. The ambient music was very soothing and sometimes the ball would step on a pill making everything psychadelic :) I just wish I hadn't forgotten the name of it.

[applekid]

1- GTA3 <-- the best ever.
2- C&C ZeroHour (expansion of the already ported Generals).
3- Deus Ex2 <--- needs a miracle.
4- Driv3r <--- 2006 maybe?

Rockstar said they were interested in bringing a game to the Mac. But we've yet to see someting.

C&C Zero Hour is a possibility, if C&C Generals is popular on the Mac. I doubt it is because of the demanding hardware, but I wouldn't be surprised to see sales jump when there's better machines from Apple and perhaps create interest to bring the expansion over.

DeusEx2 could be possible. The first one did make it to the Mac. It's OS 9 only though. There is a possibility of an OS X version coming to life, but the porting house is very quiet on the topic. I wouldn't be surprised if porting houses are interested in DeusEx2, but since the hardware is a bit lacking at the consumer-level from Apple, I doubt they would want to sell a game to such a small audience. Also, DeusEx 2 has been getting mixed reviews, so even if the Macs were in tip-top gaming shape, I'd have to wonder how well it'd sell to Mac users.

Driv3r has been getting mixed reviews as well. The first one did come to the Mac. The second did not (don't know why). The first one did pretty well, but I'm baffled why we didn't see its sequel. Because of mixed reviews, chances of a port aren't too great. It seems like it appeals to mostly people in the UK.

[Ari_0]

Well I tell you what. Im at two minds about getting a powerbook since the only game that I am familiar with and I like that is on a mac is C&C Generals. Once GTA3 (only GTA3) is out on mac, I will guarantee you that I will be converted forever :D

[Ninja_Turtle]

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i heard that this game wasnt that good...

[&RU]

I'll take WOW, Lineage II or Guild Wars, any RPG that takes over my life and turns me into a blathering geek is welcome.

[Doraemon]

I'll take WOW, Lineage II or Guild Wars, any RPG that takes over my life and turns me into a blathering geek is welcome.

WOW is coming for the Mac. Beta-test is runing.

[Danrose1977]

I'll take WOW, Lineage II or Guild Wars, any RPG that takes over my life and turns me into a blathering geek is welcome.

Yay for blathering geeks and WOW on the mac!

[snowdog]

There is this one other game, I used to play it on PSX on my old gaming days.
*sigh* It was a sort of puzzle whereby the puzzle is in 3D, the backgrounds were sky, Lava, space etc. You controlled the ball by pressing a direction (each click on a direction made it move once) and you could some crazy combos like flipping the puzzle by making the ball go upwards (think 3d here) as opposed to accross. The ambient music was very soothing and sometimes the ball would step on a pill making everything psychadelic :) I just wish I hadn't forgotten the name of it.

Does "Kula world", also known as "Roll away", ring a bell?
Very fun game. I still play it on and off.

[Ari_0]

yes yes :D


Kula World owns, thanx for reminding me


I just want Kula World, Kurushi Final, Ehergiz and GTA3 ported and I will fully convert to Mac since C&C Generals is already here :)

[Timelessblur]

I hate to be the barer of bad news for those that want far cry but Far cry will have trouble really running on anything but an upgraded daul G5 sytems as it stands. It not the processor that is the problem of the lower sytems. It the fact that there graphic cards are 2 weak to run it. For that game to run desently you need AT least a 128 graphic card and 512 megs of ram. Other wise the games sucks and you can not enjoy it sweet graphics plus it becomes laggy on the lowest setting. It is one demanding game.

Good game.

Personly I think a lot more games need to be ported over to mac if they want to converted people like me. I not a hard core gamer but I like my games.

[Ninja_Turtle]

I hate to be the barer of bad news for those that want far cry but Far cry will have trouble really running on anything but an upgraded daul G5 sytems as it stands. It not the processor that is the problem of the lower sytems. It the fact that there graphic cards are 2 weak to run it. For that game to run desently you need AT least a 128 graphic card and 512 megs of ram. Other wise the games sucks and you can not enjoy it sweet graphics plus it becomes laggy on the lowest setting. It is one demanding game.

Good game.

Personly I think a lot more games need to be ported over to mac if they want to converted people like me. I not a hard core gamer but I like my games.

Far Cry on Mac??? HA I'd like to see the day...I doubt it will EVER happen...

[leandroc76]

Far Cry on Mac??? HA I'd like to see the day...I doubt it will EVER happen...

never say never

[Ninja_Turtle]

never say never


i didnt wanna say it, but i had too... :( i mean...Far Cry uses DirectX...no possible way that will ever get on the Mac

[zakee00]

i didnt wanna say it, but i had too... :( i mean...Far Cry uses DirectX...no possible way that will ever get on the Mac

plus, the only mac that can run it good is a g5 dual 2.5 with 6800 :( lol sad but true

[Nermal]

i didnt wanna say it, but i had too... :( i mean...Far Cry uses DirectX...no possible way that will ever get on the Mac

They can convert it to OpenGL. Just like a lot of other games out there.

[Fitzcaraldo]

"Cycling World 4" :o

looks like a blast for the more laid back stratergy/sports gamer... Somehow I think the games apeal will be niche, not sure if that increases or decreases it chances of a port...

[web_god61]

DooM ]|[ - I really hope there's gonna be a mac version.

[Ninja_Turtle]

They can convert it to OpenGL. Just like a lot of other games out there.

eh, they COULD convert it...but how long do games with DirectX usually take to get ported? i mean...seriously...the licensing, the work, the coding, the $$$...it would be at LEAST 3 years to get a mac running far cry, by then theyll probably have Far Cry 3 or something, and the mac community would suffer from no tools, or mods or anything...

[Ninja_Turtle]

DooM ]|[ - I really hope there's gonna be a mac version.


the good folks at ID have never let me down with the Mac version of their games, I'm sure there will be a Mac DOOM III...i cant wait! :D :p

[bousozoku]

eh, they COULD convert it...but how long do games with DirectX usually take to get ported? i mean...seriously...the licensing, the work, the coding, the $$$...it would be at LEAST 3 years to get a mac running far cry, by then theyll probably have Far Cry 3 or something, and the mac community would suffer from no tools, or mods or anything...

It depends. Most Direct3D calls are merely converted on the fly to OpenGL calls since many software houses have their own Direct3D libraries already.

The trouble is getting decent performance when the slop is ignored at 3 GHz but not 1 GHz.

[applekid]

Porting really doesn't take that long. You'll see porting houses go from Prototype stages to Final Candidate in a matter of a few months. Fixing bugs and optimizing it on the other hand will take an unpredictable amount of time. Delays also come from what I believe are under-staffed porting houses. Take this for example: Aspyr originally planned on releasing Splinter Cell in November of last year, but now it's moving to a summer release! They tossed it on the back-burner for a long time. It was at alpha for all this time until now! However, in return, we got some high-quality games like BF1942, CoD, etc. So, it was a business move in some cases that creates delays.

FarCry wouldn't take 3 years or even a year if porting houses were staffed-well, and were able to stomp bugs quickly. But since the unpredictable happens often, you often see games get pushed back, nearly a year at times.

Here's my thoughts on a FarCry port: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=78891

[Ninja_Turtle]

Porting really doesn't take that long. You'll see porting houses go from Prototype stages to Final Candidate in a matter of a few months. Fixing bugs and optimizing it on the other hand will take an unpredictable amount of time. Delays also come from what I believe are under-staffed porting houses. Take this for example: Aspyr originally planned on releasing Splinter Cell in November of last year, but now it's moving to a summer release! They tossed it on the back-burner for a long time. It was at alpha for all this time until now! However, in return, we got some high-quality games like BF1942, CoD, etc. So, it was a business move in some cases that creates delays.

FarCry wouldn't take 3 years or even a year if porting houses were staffed-well, and were able to stomp bugs quickly. But since the unpredictable happens often, you often see games get pushed back, nearly a year at times.

Here's my thoughts on a FarCry port: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=78891

i still doubt that it will ever be on a Mac...i mean seriously...i dont see it at ALL...thats just me, eh...trying to be realistic about these things...

[dave1234]

I wouldnt mind seeing Splinter Cell (either one) on mac. FF XI I would like to see as well....

[m.r.m.]

somehow i fail to understand why valve is so intent on not porting half-life or half-life 2 to the mac. counterstrike is the most popular online shooter, so why not bring it to the mac as well?

[Ninja_Turtle]

somehow i fail to understand why valve is so intent on not porting half-life or half-life 2 to the mac. counterstrike is the most popular online shooter, so why not bring it to the mac as well?

one simple symbol would explain that, and also one word
NO $ ....well actually 4 words....
Because they are stupid...

[bousozoku]

somehow i fail to understand why valve is so intent on not porting half-life or half-life 2 to the mac. counterstrike is the most popular online shooter, so why not bring it to the mac as well?

Someone has to pay for the thing and, while they did port the original, it was such a mess that Sierra, the publisher, pulled the plug.

I'm sure if someone would put up enough money and guarantee them sales, Valve would be happy to port it.

[Blue Velvet]

BF1942 will be nice

Doom 3 would be very cool.

Doom 3 would be very VERY cool!

[Ninja_Turtle]

what game that SHOULD be ported is this one called S.T.A.L.K.E.R this game looks real real cool...looks original, also id like to play Serious Sam on my mac, i saw an ad in the game ONi that said something about Serious Sam being on mac, i've looked everywhere but no luck...

[Timelessblur]

oh thing I might like to add is when they port a game the must also recomplial all of the code for you processor along with you OS. From there IF it compieals they now need to opimizes it for the powerpc chip. As it stands they are currently optized for x-86 chip designs and more speficed either and AMD or Intel x86. Along with a lof of other stuff.

[applekid]

I wouldnt mind seeing Splinter Cell (either one) on mac. FF XI I would like to see as well....

Splinter Cell is on the way. Check Aspyr.com.

somehow i fail to understand why valve is so intent on not porting half-life or half-life 2 to the mac. counterstrike is the most popular online shooter, so why not bring it to the mac as well?

Sierra was afraid of maintaining a Mac version that would be compatible with the PC version. Obviously, it's nothing to fear now.

HL2 on the other hand still has a chance. It's popular, it's a different time, and porting houses are all over it already.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Splinter Cell is on the way. Check Aspyr.com.



Sierra was afraid of maintaining a Mac version that would be compatible with the PC version. Obviously, it's nothing to fear now.

HL2 on the other hand still has a chance. It's popular, it's a different time, and porting houses are all over it already.

what porting houses? aspyr? ha i think that aspyr is too afraid to port HL2...

[applekid]

what porting houses? aspyr? ha i think that aspyr is too afraid to port HL2...

Can't say. I know of a few insiders though. Let's say I know people that know people.

And why would any porting house fear HL2? A few more million lines of code? Whoop-dee-doo. Nothing new for them. It's possible in might be done in-house instead.

[bousozoku]

what porting houses? aspyr? ha i think that aspyr is too afraid to port HL2...

Neither Aspyr not Westlake would likely be involved. The first had too many financial risks, even for the PC version. MacPlay would be a likely publisher but who would be willing to port it? Valve is probably the only one.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Neither Aspyr not Westlake would likely be involved. The first had too many financial risks, even for the PC version. MacPlay would be a likely publisher but who would be willing to port it? Valve is probably the only one.

umm...im also guessing Mac Soft...but ionno, those are probably the only true mac developers out there...

[m.r.m.]

Sierra was afraid of maintaining a Mac version that would be compatible with the PC version. Obviously, it's nothing to fear now.

HL2 on the other hand still has a chance. It's popular, it's a different time, and porting houses are all over it already.

if counterstrike manages to come out for the mac with equal specs (100fps, same feel, weapon response...) i may completey switch after all! :eek:

[rickvanr]

We Canadian Mac users need a good hockey game, preferably EA's NHL series.

agreed

[Ninja_Turtle]

didnt sega just release some hockey game???? i swear i read an article on insidemacgames.com maybe you guys should take a look on it

[Fitzcaraldo]

didnt sega just release some hockey game???? i swear i read an article on insidemacgames.com maybe you guys should take a look on it


Yes Sega Just Published "Eastside Hockey Manager" by 'Sports Interactive'

Its a management sim with topdown 2d game wiews, and if its anything like their more famous title "Championship Manager" It should be a very indepth simulation.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Yes Sega Just Published "Eastside Hockey Manager" by 'Sports Interactive'

Its a management sim with topdown 2d game wiews, and if its anything like their more famous title "Championship Manager" It should be a very indepth simulation.

i doubt that any one would buy this game, i like hockey but only EA's NHL series is worth it

[cb911]

i just really hope that Fallout 3 (http://www.bethsoft.com/news/pressrelease_071204.htm) (by far my all-time favourite series) comes to Mac! :D

[Nermal]

Neither Aspyr not Westlake would likely be involved.

Westlake has an unannounced product "Booty Call" (that's a codename) on their project status page. They haven't stated who the publisher is. Think about it logically for a minute and you'll realise that if they did tell us who the publisher is (Sierra), then we'd know immediately what game it is :)

A lot of other people also think that "Booty Call" is Half-Life 2. It's been there for a long time and seems to "match up".

[Nermal]

Doom 3 would be very VERY cool!

Doom 3 has been announced :)

[applekid]

Westlake has an unannounced product "Booty Call" (that's a codename) on their project status page. They haven't stated who the publisher is. Think about it logically for a minute and you'll realise that if they did tell us who the publisher is (Sierra), then we'd know immediately what game it is :)

A lot of other people also think that "Booty Call" is Half-Life 2. It's been there for a long time and seems to "match up".

There also are Liver and Onions. Two more games from Westlake. Both are at FC! There also is Corey which is at alpha.

More things to speculate about.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Doom 3 has been announced :)

doom 3 was annouced...they never stated a MAC OS X version...as for the westlake interactive studio projects....i doubt that it would be half life 2...im guessing its probably another game...i hope it is half life 2 tho...id be happy

[pgc6000]

I have to agree with those who want GTA: Vice Cityon the Mac. that is one of the best games of all time. I have never played GTA: 3 but I know it is a good game so if that came too the Mac I would probaly pick it up. Not before Vice City though.

[Ninja_Turtle]

I have to agree with those who want GTA: Vice Cityon the Mac. that is one of the best games of all time. I have never played GTA: 3 but I know it is a good game so if that came too the Mac I would probaly pick it up. Not before Vice City though.

eh, any GTA game will never be released on Mac, Rockstar wouldnt take the risk, even tho there isnt any risk because most mac users crave good games...

[Nermal]

Rockstar have said that they want to make a Mac game. They said it a while ago, and it's possible that Westlake's "Liver" and "Onions" are our two favourite GTA games :)

[Ninja_Turtle]

Rockstar have said that they want to make a Mac game. They said it a while ago, and it's possible that Westlake's "Liver" and "Onions" are our two favourite GTA games :)

terrible names, why dont they annouce them already if they have already started on "code naming" the project???

[Nermal]

Sometimes the original developer wants to surprise us with a product announcement. Sometimes they want to make sure that the Mac port will actually work before announcing. These are some reasons why Westlake hasn't announced the actual names of their projects. If they had permission to reveal the product names, they would.

[geese]

Any takers for Pro Evolution Soccer 3 ? Yes, I know it'll have limited potantial in North America, but Europe and Japan! The Mac needs a decent Football game, and Kick-Off 4 didnt really cut it.

Not EA's Fifa either- football game for Man Utd fans :D . PES 3!

[painimies]

I'd only want one game, and that's Pro Evolution Soccer 3 (or 4, when it comes out in august.)

Half Life II, Grim Fandango and whatever CIV games come out in the future would be nice as well.

Beyond that I don't care.

If I was to get PES 3 with multiplayer, I'd stop working altogether.

[Maxicek]

I second the Pro-Evolution Soccer 3, GTA VC and GTA III calls. I'd like to see Gran Turismo 4 on Mac, but that is never going to happen.

I'd also like to see new versions of Diablo and Syndicate on the Mac - two of my favorites from the past. I used to play Syndicate on my LCIII.

[pgc6000]

Hmmmmm......How long do you guys think Liver and Onions will take? I want to find out if Liver and Onions is GTA: 3 and Vice City.

[applekid]

Hmmmmm......How long do you guys think Liver and Onions will take? I want to find out if Liver and Onions is GTA: 3 and Vice City.

I'm 90% sure that they either hit a bug at FC or the original publisher/developers have not gotten back to them on the FC versions of Liver and Onions. It may take a month at most, but I think we'll see some results soon.

Interesting how tight-lip the original publisher is. Most games get announced at around beta or at the latest, FC. Looks like we'll find out what this game is at Gold Master, that is if the above aren't the problems.

[Nermal]

doom 3 was annouced...they never stated a MAC OS X version

They ARE making a Mac version of Doom 3. Unfortunately, it's not going to come out simultaneously with the Windows version though.

Note that this is factual, not just a guess on my part. See the Doom 3 thread for the quote from id's CEO.

[pgc6000]

I'm 90% sure that they either hit a bug at FC or the original publisher/developers have not gotten back to them on the FC versions of Liver and Onions. It may take a month at most, but I think we'll see some results soon.

Interesting how tight-lip the original publisher is. Most games get announced at around beta or at the latest, FC. Looks like we'll find out what this game is at Gold Master, that is if the above aren't the problems.

Lers hope :D

[Ninja_Turtle]

They ARE making a Mac version of Doom 3. Unfortunately, it's not going to come out simultaneously with the Windows version though.

Note that this is factual, not just a guess on my part. See the Doom 3 thread for the quote from id's CEO.


oh nice...i did read it...haha cant wait!

[Ari_0]

I only want three games to be converted:

C&C Generals (here already)
Tron 2.0/ CoD (Both here)
GTA3 or new GTA (on way)

Vice city is overrated. Way to colourful. The Gloomy GTA3 Fake Newyork maps are much better. Too bad its more limited. But...yeah..... PES3 :)

[Oli Silvstedt]

Any Champ Man games and im fine... know anything on Champ Man 5.

[Fitzcaraldo]

Any Champ Man games and im fine... know anything on Champ Man 5.

Champman as we know it is now called Football Manager 5...

Champ Manager 5 is a no SI game because Eidos (AFAIK) own the Brand now but parted company with Sports Interactive...

[Fitzcaraldo]

i doubt that any one would buy this game, i like hockey but only EA's NHL series is worth it

I don't see why not... If its anything as good as Championship Manager then the net play can get very competative... and the game itself was developed by popular request AFAIK.

What it lacks in graphics it should easily make up for in Detail and Simulation accuracy...

Championship Mabager (Now Football Manager 5) is one of the biggest tittles out there...

[Ninja_Turtle]

I don't see why not... If its anything as good as Championship Manager then the net play can get very competative... and the game itself was developed by popular request AFAIK.

What it lacks in graphics it should easily make up for in Detail and Simulation accuracy...

Championship Mabager (Now Football Manager 5) is one of the biggest tittles out there...

eh, i havent played it, i could care less about graphics...ill give it a try, if it runs on a 600mhz G3, im there!!! :D

[PlatinumBlade]

I too would like to see all games or at least most of the big titles be developed for the Mac at the same time as the PC version. It isn't what is available that bothers me though, it is how they perform. I am sick of seeing the Mac platform get stomped by the PC in gaming performance. I'm sure there are some out there who will disgree with me but I'm not wrong. The Mac is inferior to the PC for gaming. PERIOD. This statement is clearly backed up by firsthand evidence because I just bought a dual 2 GHz G5 with a Radeon 9600XT installed. It does not run games as well as my 3.06 GHz PC does with its Radeon 9700 Pro. It doesn't even come close. For a $3000 computer (I added 1 GB of RAM) this should not be what I'm experiencing.

This makes me angry! I want to be a Mac gamer. I want Halo and the other games I've tried on my Mac to run well but they don't. They are choppy, sluggish, and just don't look as good.

When the Nvidia 6800 comes out next month I will buy one in the hopes that it will cure my Mac gaming desires. If it doesn't, then I have to think Apple will never get their act together enough to meet or beat the PC for gaming. It is blatant that the G5 machine I have is buttkicking fast, but it simply can't handle games. When I have to run Halo at 800X600 without HIGH detail turned on just to achieve decent framerates, not even GOOD framerates, something is just WRONG!

Aren't there others out here that feel like I do? Don't you want to see games perform well? Wouldn't quality instead of quantity be desirable? Sure both would be great but I think they need to work on making Mac games run just as well or better than the PC versions before we all start worrying about how many Mac games there are. No point in pushing developers to release crap... I want to see a polished product. :mad:

[applekid]

There are many disgruntled Mac gamers (those exist?!) out there. Sometimes people are blaming the porting houses when they work their a**es off to get some games for you but some of you are ungrateful. (I'm not pointing any fingers at anybody, really). While others are disappointed about the price of the Macs and their lack in performance.

However, Macs weren't meant to be gaming machines. Heck, computers weren't originally intended for gaming! There's some things Apple could still to do help out the Mac gamers (like clocking the graphics card properly, giving us some cheaper machines, etc.) The list just goes on. But, the PCs will have their gaming advantage for a while (except against consoles).

But the fact is, Apple isn't here for the gamers. It's very much a niche market within a niche market. 22 million Mac users out there, and only about 20,000 - 100,000 (if they're lucky the latter, if they're unlucky the previous) copies of one game are sold on the Mac.

Halo doesn't really perform that well on any computer, honestly. You'll just barely get 30 FPS with the computers that are capable. I don't know about he latest PCs, but the PCs from just a few months ago, were still getting just over 30.

I would say a Mac 9600XT is much worse than a PC 9700 Pro anyhow. Haven't seen benchmarks, but I have a feeling there is quite a gap. You probably should've gotten the 9800 Pro or XT, but then again, you are planning on buying that 6800 (can I borrow some money off of ya?) so I guess it isn't such a bad thing.

[Ari_0]

Honestly, playing Halo, a Micro$oft game, on a mac is an insult :rolleyes:

Does anyone know if Comanche 4 is available for Mac OS X? Or any good Helicopter sim? I love those death machines :D

[PlatinumBlade]

You must have forgotten that Bungie was initially a Mac deveoper? And that Halo was being developed for the Mac first? It isn't Halo's fault that MS came along and bought em up. : )

It seems to me that with a machine as nice as the G5 is now, if they did put a little more effort into making it a better game machine they could draw new crowds and improve their numbers. After all, who isn't tired of PC incompatibilities, or error messages from Windows applications and Windows itself?

I think if they are bothering to release a card as powerful as the 6800 for the Mac then they should hopefully work to make it play games well too because having people spend $600 on that card just so they can put a 30" display on their machines seems pretty stupid to me. Make the card useful for more than just that is what I'm saying. Get some good OpenGL optimization on it and we'll see nicely running games on the Mac.

[m.r.m.]

it's a vicious circle. if games don't perform better, people won't play them. they won't be bought and companies won't want to put in the effort to make them better. it's a shame really, since macs dominate the graphic design world. the ball is with the developers. they need to bring out games performing at par with pc versions. then people will buy them. i'll wager there is a lot less piracy among mac users comparatively, but also a lot less customers on the whole.

[Ninja_Turtle]

it's a vicious circle. if games don't perform better, people won't play them. they won't be bought and companies won't want to put in the effort to make them better. it's a shame really, since macs dominate the graphic design world. the ball is with the developers. they need to bring out games performing at par with pc versions. then people will buy them. i'll wager there is a lot less piracy among mac users comparatively, but also a lot less customers on the whole.

think about it tho, less customers yes, but less piracy, so they get their money and no one pirates their stuff, as the PC, rarely anyone buys them and EVERYONE PLAYS THEM!!!! take Counter Strike for example, no one bought that with their own money, either someone pirated or a friend got it, and all the cd keys can be used over and over again...

[applekid]

think about it tho, less customers yes, but less piracy, so they get their money and no one pirates their stuff, as the PC, rarely anyone buys them and EVERYONE PLAYS THEM!!!! take Counter Strike for example, no one bought that with their own money, either someone pirated or a friend got it, and all the cd keys can be used over and over again...

One of the things fueling the downfall of gaming on the PC.

Here's to hoping it'll get a point where it'll be profitable to release games on Macs only.

[Ninja_Turtle]

whatever happened to DUKE NUKEM FOREVER??? ive been waiting and waiting, and also i wonder if itll be for the Mac..just a thought

[applekid]

whatever happened to DUKE NUKEM FOREVER??? ive been waiting and waiting, and also i wonder if itll be for the Mac..just a thought

Are you being serious?! Not trying to offend you anything, but...

It's vaporware!

They re-wrote the engine about 3 times now (I think), and they keep developing it on and off. It's a mess. It's a huge joke as far as any serious gamer is concerned. When (and IF) it's released, it'll just be another game that nobody cares about. How many years in development is it now?

Duke Nukem Forever is only a topic for gamers to make jokes about.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Are you being serious?! Not trying to offend you anything, but...

It's vaporware!

They re-wrote the engine about 3 times now (I think), and they keep developing it on and off. It's a mess. It's a huge joke as far as any serious gamer is concerned. When (and IF) it's released, it'll just be another game that nobody cares about. How many years in development is it now?

Duke Nukem Forever is only a topic for gamers to make jokes about.

haha, hey none taken, but i was a HUGE FAN of Duke Nukem 3D on my little 75mhz Mac...haha DOOM started me up on the first person shooters and then came DUKE NUKEM 3D so i have to love them, yeah its been rewritten 3 times, first it was going to use q2 engine, then ut engine, and now the UT2k3 engine...its been in development for quiet some time now...i still think that there is a SLIGHT (very small one) that it will get released, i hope it does...even though it sounds like a joke,you have to admit that you love to see it come to the mac :D

[Ninja_Turtle]

i heard a rumor from some one from the "inside" that westlakes projects LIVER AND ONION are 90% going to be GTA3 and GTA:VICE, and the other one "corey" could be DOOM 3, it IS in alpha and it will probably be out soon, doom3 just finished for PC apperantly the Mac version is still in ALPHA.

[Jovian9]

The Matrix Online game. I enjoyed the GameCube version and would like to be able to try this one out too.

[JGreen2191991]

I think the matrix online game should port and city of heroes, both look great,

[applekid]

i heard a rumor from some one from the "inside" that westlakes projects LIVER AND ONION are 90% going to be GTA3 and GTA:VICE, and the other one "corey" could be DOOM 3, it IS in alpha and it will probably be out soon, doom3 just finished for PC apperantly the Mac version is still in ALPHA.

The GTA theories is possible. Then again, I think I've seen about 20 posts on this forum alone about how it's probable they are GTA games. However, there is no sure correlation between the two. All you can do now is speculate. I for one see no correlation between the two except for how both were ported simultaneously. Westlake has an abstract way of names matching with games. And it would make much more sense if GTA3 and VC were sold in a single package.

Corey is definitely not Doom 3. I highly doubt Westlake can move from Alpha to Final Candidate in a few months. Not only that, id is doing this in-house.

There's still Booty Call at prototype. Must be using a new engine, like say, FarCry's. It's been there for about a year. Then again, it may be possible that when Aspyr and Westlake were shuffling employees, the porter didn't get their assets to finish it.

But, I can say with certainty, your source sucks. :p

[5300cs]

I really want to see Virtual Pool ported. That was my favorite game on the pc side and I really miss it. I also wish Flight Simulator was ported (I really don't like X-plane) but that's got a snowballs chance in hell of ever happening :rolleyes:

[PlatinumBlade]

Why would there be no chance of Flight Simulator being ported? There are other Microsoft titles on the Mac. Age Of Empires, Dungeon Siege, Halo. If they know there is interest perhaps they will do it.

Personally I'd enjoy seeing Starfleet Command III, Need For Speed Underground, Freelancer.

At least gaming on the Mac seems a lot healthier than when I purchased my Quicksilver G4 a little over a year ago.

[Ninja_Turtle]

The GTA theories is possible. Then again, I think I've seen about 20 posts on this forum alone about how it's probable they are GTA games. However, there is no sure correlation between the two. All you can do now is speculate. I for one see no correlation between the two except for how both were ported simultaneously. Westlake has an abstract way of names matching with games. And it would make much more sense if GTA3 and VC were sold in a single package.

Corey is definitely not Doom 3. I highly doubt Westlake can move from Alpha to Final Candidate in a few months. Not only that, id is doing this in-house.

There's still Booty Call at prototype. Must be using a new engine, like say, FarCry's. It's been there for about a year. Then again, it may be possible that when Aspyr and Westlake were shuffling employees, the porter didn't get their assets to finish it.

But, I can say with certainty, your source sucks. :p

haha i think my source is quiet accurate...as for DOOM 3 being doing in-house, i highly doubt it, westlake interactive ported DOOM and DOOM 2, when they were called LION Software, or something with LION, so ionno, maybe your sources suck :p :D

[applekid]

Tell your source to explain the code names.

Quake 3 was done in-house, and Doom III will probably be in-house, too. Doom II and Doom were from the dark ages.

Not only that, Westlake's page does not list Doom or Doom II as games that were ported by any former employees of Lion Entertainment, even though I do remember it at least Doom II being ported by Lion.

[MacsRgr8]

I really want to see Virtual Pool ported. That was my favorite game on the pc side and I really miss it....

Have you tried Maximum Pool (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/9577) ?

Original game is for Mac OS 9, but the 1.0.6 updater works perfectly native in Panther. I love it!

[5300cs]

Have you tried Maximum Pool (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/9577) ?...

Yeah, I have it on CD somewhere. I'm afraid I didn't like it that much. Virtual Pool lets you use the mouse to control stroke speed, very much like Tiger Woods Golf 2003. I like that a lot, and makes play much more realistic. Virtual Pool 2 added 3d graphics support & Virtual Pool 3 was just graphically stunning. Plus you can do masses & jumps shots, I don't remember if Maximum Pool lets you do that or not :confused:

As for Flight Sim, it's just my theory that if it hasn't been done by now, it most likely never will be. m$ stopped after version 4.0 I think, which you can find on a certain Mac abandonware site ... :rolleyes:

[Ninja_Turtle]

Tell your source to explain the code names.

Quake 3 was done in-house, and Doom III will probably be in-house, too. Doom II and Doom were from the dark ages.

Not only that, Westlake's page does not list Doom or Doom II as games that were ported by any former employees of Lion Entertainment, even though I do remember it at least Doom II being ported by Lion.

yeah, pretty much all quakes were in house, i dont think westlake would put up old "news" about themselves, Lion also ported Duke Nukem 3D, and they dont have a "page" about it, but yet they have an updater for the game...

[applekid]

yeah, pretty much all quakes were in house, i dont think westlake would put up old "news" about themselves, Lion also ported Duke Nukem 3D, and they dont have a "page" about it, but yet they have an updater for the game...

Uh, yes they do. (http://westlakeinteractive.com/projects02.html)

Your source is bogus until I see an explanation for the code names. If they have no explanation for the code names, they aren't very good insiders at all.

Your source is basing everything on patterns, not on hard facts. I am sure Doom 3 is in-house. Carmack's demo at that MacWorld was with a port they made in-house, and no doubt the version in the works is based on that.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Uh, yes they do. (http://westlakeinteractive.com/projects02.html)

Your source is bogus until I see an explanation for the code names. If they have no explanation for the code names, they aren't very good insiders at all.

Your source is basing everything on patterns, not on hard facts. I am sure Doom 3 is in-house. Carmack's demo at that MacWorld was with a port they made in-house, and no doubt the version in the works is based on that.

oh i saw that page, but i must've over looked duke nukem 3d thingy, hmmmm well anyways, why didnt they post doom? liver and onions is a popular saying, they go together, its hard to explain but you cook liver with onions so eh...GTA and GTA:VICE are "together" because they are pretty much same game...

[applekid]

That still doesn't prove Corey = Doom 3. Doom II was done by Lion Entertainment. Doom on the other hand was not. There is a lot more pointing to id doing Doom 3 in-house. I sent an e-mail to id. They'll give us a final answer on this.

The GTA thing is semi-believable, yet way to simple by Westlake standard, or is it? Then again, I've seen tons of people that came to that conclusion in the first place. I still have doubts on both GTA games coming. Maybe one, but I doubt both of them. A little too redundant.

I still say mostly bogus if not completely bogus.

[Ari_0]

I may be blind but I believe they have withdrew the page which shows what they are working on now. Now dont panic people, this could be because of problems with a development, renaming of one of the projects or because I seriously am BLIND :eek:

[applekid]

I may be blind but I believe they have withdrew the page which shows what they are working on now. Now dont panic people, this could be because of problems with a development, renaming of one of the projects or because I seriously am BLIND :eek:

No comment. (http://westlakeinteractive.com/projectstat.html)

[Ninja_Turtle]

I may be blind but I believe they have withdrew the page which shows what they are working on now. Now dont panic people, this could be because of problems with a development, renaming of one of the projects or because I seriously am BLIND :eek:

how can anyone type if they are blind??? and if they can, i think it would be really hard...and how would you be able to read anything anyone posts on a website...

[Ari_0]

hahahaha good. i was worried there for one second that i was going blind :rolleyes:

[applekid]

That still doesn't prove Corey = Doom 3. Doom II was done by Lion Entertainment. Doom on the other hand was not. There is a lot more pointing to id doing Doom 3 in-house. I sent an e-mail to id. They'll give us a final answer on this.

The GTA thing is semi-believable, yet way to simple by Westlake standard, or is it? Then again, I've seen tons of people that came to that conclusion in the first place. I still have doubts on both GTA games coming. Maybe one, but I doubt both of them. A little too redundant.

I still say mostly bogus if not completely bogus.

It may be possible I have to eat my words! ;)

Just read a few things again and thought things over.

First, id's Mac evangelist left id a couple of years ago, completely halting Doom 3 development for the Mac.

Second, the publisher for Doom 3 for the Mac is still unknown.

So, this opens up the possibility of a porting house finishing up what's left and any publisher could grab it.

But from id's CEO's comments, he seems to implying id was developing everything. The publisher would still be in question, but Activision has been Mac-friendly with the Tony Hawk series and many other games. But the publisher might end up being Aspyr since they have a good relationship with Activision.

Now, I'm confused. :confused: ;)

I suppose that source has some credibility, Ninja_Turtle. We'll see in the coming months or weeks hopefully.

[Ninja_Turtle]

It may be possible I have to eat my words! ;)

Just read a few things again and thought things over.

First, id's Mac evangelist left id a couple of years ago, completely halting Doom 3 development for the Mac.

Second, the publisher for Doom 3 for the Mac is still unknown.

So, this opens up the possibility of a porting house finishing up what's left and any publisher could grab it.

But from id's CEO's comments, he seems to implying id was developing everything. The publisher would still be in question, but Activision has been Mac-friendly with the Tony Hawk series and many other games. But the publisher might end up being Aspyr since they have a good relationship with Activision.

Now, I'm confused. :confused: ;)

I suppose that source has some credibility, Ninja_Turtle. We'll see in the coming months or weeks hopefully.

im guessing Activision and Aspyr also, also what im guessing it can be just ID the whole way...the first DOOM 3 preview WAS on a mac, so ID might be the only one behind Mac DOOM 3...

[Nermal]

Return to Wolfenstein (an id game) was ported by Westlake.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Return to Wolfenstein (an id game) was ported by Westlake.

alot of IDs games were ported by Westlake and also Lion (thats westlake back in the days) but these days, DOOM 3 might be done inhouse

[DesterWallaboo]

I want FarCry, but Half-Life would have been cool. I don't like CS very much, but I love Day of Defeat and wish I could play it on a Mac. But we get Call of Duty and BF1942, so I'll be happy soon. Now just get me FarCry...


Definitely Far Cry.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Definitely Far Cry.

far cry for mac would be really impossible, it uses DIRECT X and thats real hard to port to a mac, they might get it to work under OPEN GL, i doubt that it will take less than a year though, and also...who would port it?

[bux]

far cry for mac would be really impossible, it uses DIRECT X and thats real hard to port to a mac, they might get it to work under OPEN GL, i doubt that it will take less than a year though, and also...who would port it?

But, it seams like you're missing one of the biggest features of far cry.
They already have a OpenGL renderer in it (I know because I have to use it to make it run under linux with cedega (formely known as winex)).

But still, far cry is only graphically good... the game itself suck big time.

[applekid]

Woah, woah, woah.

I already explained it about 50 times now that Far Cry is definitely a possibility from a technical standpoint. Maybe not financially, but it is definitely possibly from a technical standpoint. Search this thread. I've made plenty of posts on how porting works.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Woah, woah, woah.

I already explained it about 50 times now that Far Cry is definitely a possibility from a technical standpoint. Maybe not financially, but it is definitely possibly from a technical standpoint. Search this thread. I've made plenty of posts on how porting works.

dude are you talking to me? i said that Far Cry could be a possibility, i never said it wasnt..

[cantthinkofone]

halo 2 should stay on the xbox. ive played both(and own both for the mac and xbox) and i think it looks best on the xbox. and it even performs better on my xbox than it does on my G5 :confused: . Id like to see FarCry, and or Half-Life 2. other than that, my xbox satisfies my gaming needs.

[applekid]

dude are you talking to me? i said that Far Cry could be a possibility, i never said it wasnt..

Oh, no. A little preventive maintenance before people start yelling about Far Cry and how it's "impossible". ;) No worries. Seemed like last time once there was a few people saying Far Cry, someone will point out the DirectX renderer, then the OpenGL renderer, and we just go on and on about porting. Can drive a mate crazy! :eek:

[pgc6000]

Anyone have any idea or a guess how long it will take them to port The Call of Duty expansion pack? It's coming out in the Fall for for the PC. I beat COD and I'll tell you I really enjoyed it. So I want to try and get the COD expansion as soon as possible for my little iBook.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Anyone have any idea or a guess how long it will take them to port The Call of Duty expansion pack? It's coming out in the Fall for for the PC. I beat COD and I'll tell you I really enjoyed it. So I want to try and get the COD expansion as soon as possible for my little iBook.


the expansion should, probably take around 3 months, minimum...most expansions take 3 months to get

[applekid]

the expansion should, probably take around 3 months, minimum...most expansions take 3 months to get

Of course, at worst, it'll be up to 8 months after its release. Earlier as long as there is no other popular game being ported or as long as the popularity on the PC is high.

[pgc6000]

Well lets hope 3 months. Waiting 8 months would kinda suck :p

Another question: The Battle for Middle-earth is coming out in the Fall on the PC. Do you think it will make it to the Mac? My guess is Aspyr will port it. How long do you think that will take? (if it even does)

[applekid]

If it were to be ported, it'd take about 3 months to 8 months (same rules still apply) after the license is approved on the PC side.

I do see it a very good possibility. I remember reading it uses the C&C Generals game engine, so it is very likely it'll be a quick port.

Here's an interview with a person at Aspyr. A good read for those of you that want an idea of the future. (http://www.insidemacgames.com/features/view.php?ID=303) Some important points: Aspyr is likely to publish and/or port more EA and Activision titles (as they do right now) than other company's. C&C General's expansion Zero Hour seems like a possibility of getting ported soon. Next year, Aspyr will publish a completely original title (non-port, Mac-first game).

Now for Westlake to reveal Liver and Onions...

[pgc6000]

Good Interview. Well that's good news. I guess I can wait 3 months, but once again 8 months would be a drag. :p

How long did it take them for C & C Generals? 4 or 5 months? (sorry but I'm full of questions) :D

I am also wondering about Liver & Onions. Hopefully if it's GTA: III and Vice City it can be in stores soon.

[applekid]

Looking at IMG's old news posts, it appears it was announced in September of 2003 and started shipping April of 2004. I'm trying to remember if there was a long wait during the QA stages and beta testing stages. But anyways, about 8 months, give or take. Closer to 9.

Now, I can reassure you that Battle for Middle Earth won't take nearly as long (that is if they get the rights and it is popular on the PC). Since they ported C&C Generals, they have an understanding of the code and probably only need to make minor changes for Battle of Middle Earth. Then there's testing and stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a few months after a PC release and/or an announcement by Aspyr.

Liver & Onions can be anything still. The solution to the codenames haven't been as solid as older codenames (even though Westlake is getting ridiculously hard with the codenames). Westlake also left a clue that the games could be related or they also could not be related at all. I find it people are being too optimistic if they think it is GTA3 and VC (not that I wouldn't mind seeing those two), but to be realistic, seems like it was done too quickly and being stuck at Final Candidate is not good. And the fact they were done simultaneously is odd. It'd have to be a game much more similar to each other code-wise than GTA3 and VC (I'm sure there were a few changes in each engine). Also, financially, one would kill the sales of the other unless they got rights to bundle it or they sell it at a budget price (under $40).

People are starting to speculate it is the NWN expansions even though I don't think those constitute as a port because the PC data files worked on the Mac version without problem. MacSoft is the publisher and a release of the expansions should be out soon, so it could be possible, unfortunately. But, I won't believe it nor do I want to believe it. :)

I have e-mailed Westlake questioning what's going on, but no reply yet.

[pgc6000]

Looking at IMG's old news posts, it appears it was announced in September of 2003 and started shipping April of 2004. I'm trying to remember if there was a long wait during the QA stages and beta testing stages. But anyways, about 8 months, give or take. Closer to 9.

Now, I can reassure you that Battle for Middle Earth won't take nearly as long (that is if they get the rights and it is popular on the PC). Since they ported C&C Generals, they have an understanding of the code and probably only need to make minor changes for Battle of Middle Earth. Then there's testing and stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a few months after a PC release and/or an announcement by Aspyr.

Liver & Onions can be anything still. The solution to the codenames haven't been as solid as older codenames (even though Westlake is getting ridiculously hard with the codenames). Westlake also left a clue that the games could be related or they also could not be related at all. I find it people are being too optimistic if they think it is GTA3 and VC (not that I wouldn't mind seeing those two), but to be realistic, seems like it was done too quickly and being stuck at Final Candidate is not good. And the fact they were done simultaneously is odd. It'd have to be a game much more similar to each other code-wise than GTA3 and VC (I'm sure there were a few changes in each engine). Also, financially, one would kill the sales of the other unless they got rights to bundle it or they sell it at a budget price (under $40).

People are starting to speculate it is the NWN expansions even though I don't think those constitute as a port because the PC data files worked on the Mac version without problem. MacSoft is the publisher and a release of the expansions should be out soon, so it could be possible, unfortunately. But, I won't believe it nor do I want to believe it. :)

I have e-mailed Westlake questioning what's going on, but no reply yet.

My guess is (if westlake replies) they will say you will have to wait and see :(

[pimentoLoaf]

I'd like to see Cossacks, Blitzkrieg, and Victoria, to name just three.

[applekid]

I'd like to see Cossacks, Blitzkrieg, and Victoria, to name just three.

Victoria (http://www.vpltd.com/products.php?id=15) ?

I could see one of the smaller European Mac game porting pick up Blitzkrieg. It had good enough ratings, but not many gamers seemed to like it. Not exactly a good candidate.

Don't know about Cossacks. Never heard of it.

[PlatinumBlade]

What about racing games? Since Aspyr has the relationship they do with EA, what about some of the Need For Speed series? Specifically, Underground?

What about the Starfleet Command series? Or Chronicles Of Riddick?

I wish I knew something about programming so I could try creating something myself for the Mac. Would it suck? Probably. But at least the effort could prove interesting.

Has anyone tried the original Unreal Tournament OSX version recently? Is it any good?

On a side note... is there anyone else here intending on purchasing an nVidia 6800 next month when it releases?

[applekid]

What about racing games? Since Aspyr has the relationship they do with EA, what about some of the Need For Speed series? Specifically, Underground?

What about the Starfleet Command series? Or Chronicles Of Riddick?

I wish I knew something about programming so I could try creating something myself for the Mac. Would it suck? Probably. But at least the effort could prove interesting.

Has anyone tried the original Unreal Tournament OSX version recently? Is it any good?

On a side note... is there anyone else here intending on purchasing an nVidia 6800 next month when it releases?

Let's break it down:

- Racing-wise, Aspyr and other publishers have tested the waters with their racing games. I don't know if they were successful enough. NFS is a different game, but I don't if anybody is ready to take the risk. Racing games go under the same category of sports, so you do have to wonder if we'll ever see anything. Aspyr's Glenda Adams has repeatedly said they were interested in bringing some sports and racing games. There was that interview with Ted Staloch and he said 2004 and 2005 were going to big years for Aspyr. Maybe this year or next year will be the time. To any publisher, I think the only problem is they are unsure if they can port a new version every year on time. And to piss you off ( ;) ) NFS: Porsche Unleashed was being ported many years ago until EA pulled the plug. Terrible, ey?

- Starfleet Command 2 did reach the Mac. Riddick has yet to be released on the PC. The X-Box version got good ratings. I don't know how popular it was, but good reviews gives it sort of a chance. It also was a best-seller at one point, so maybe.

- Programming takes a lot of blood, sweat, tears, and effort before you can even write a simple game like Tetris. You need to be really persistent and work hard. I've been learning Java for the last two years and I'm still unhappy about my skills. Partially because I haven't pursued programming more game-like programs, but it shows you need to work a lot.

- UT X runs alright. Only one problem though. When your screen faces any bit of water at all, the game will go from the 100s of FPS down to the 20s when you see even a pixel of water. Play maps without water if you want to not see random drops in the frame rate. The porter of UT2K3 and UT2K4, Ryan Gordon, is supposed to be working on the UT X patch. He is a Linux developer, yet managed to do a nice job with UT2K3/K4. He still hasn't given a time frame for finishing UT X.

- I'm sure there's people here that plan on buying a 6800 Ultra. Let them answer.

[PlatinumBlade]

I appreciate the run down. Aside from being unemployed the past seven months, which really sucks, life isn't so bad for me. I do get to game a lot! : ) I actually have a PC but I'm trying to support gaming on the Mac by buying what I can. I just don't want to buy games that are terrible. For the record, Chronicles Of Riddick was fantastic. I played through it on the XBOX and it was quite an amazing game. Since I've only been a Mac user the second time around for a few weeks now I imagine there will be much to see and learn.

Now if only I could find a way to successfully play .mkv files on this darn machine!

Take care

[Ninja_Turtle]

I appreciate the run down. Aside from being unemployed the past seven months, which really sucks, life isn't so bad for me. I do get to game a lot! : ) I actually have a PC but I'm trying to support gaming on the Mac by buying what I can. I just don't want to buy games that are terrible. For the record, Chronicles Of Riddick was fantastic. I played through it on the XBOX and it was quite an amazing game. Since I've only been a Mac user the second time around for a few weeks now I imagine there will be much to see and learn.

Now if only I could find a way to successfully play .mkv files on this darn machine!

Take care

wow...unemployed for seven months...ouch

[7on]

Bah, the NFS : Hot Pursuits have to be better than the Underground NFS. The cops are teh awesome ;P

[PlatinumBlade]

Yeah a very big ouch. I went from a $50,000 per year job to nothing. Takes a bit of an adjustment to get used to. I can only hope luck turns good and soon. I have toys to buy! ; )

[Ninja_Turtle]

Bah, the NFS : Hot Pursuits have to be better than the
Underground NFS. The cops are teh awesome ;P


i think NFS UNDERGROUND is cooler cuz its more eh...how should i say this...fantasy yet real...the fantasy is that they have terrible cars that go "fast" which they do, but american muscle cars can go faster, and the realness is that you can buy stuff for your car, which is cool!

[PlatinumBlade]

Well I can say Underground is much better. I've played them all. Underground looks better, has better physics, is more replayable due to the amount of stuff you can do to your cars, it sounds better, and it will have a sequel.

I just read about Underground 2 tonight and it sounds like it will be amazing. It may have around 60 or so cars, much more tweaking, and the best thing in my opinion, a wide open terrain which will allow you to freely drive wherever you want. It will have 200 or so events that you can do, more than once if you want, but it is open-ended so you can drive around doing what you wish. To me that is the best. They call it a CaRPG. Makes sense to me.

[Ninja_Turtle]

Well I can say Underground is much better. I've played them all. Underground looks better, has better physics, is more replayable due to the amount of stuff you can do to your cars, it sounds better, and it will have a sequel.

I just read about Underground 2 tonight and it sounds like it will be amazing. It may have around 60 or so cars, much more tweaking, and the best thing in my opinion, a wide open terrain which will allow you to freely drive wherever you want. It will have 200 or so events that you can do, more than once if you want, but it is open-ended so you can drive around doing what you wish. To me that is the best. They call it a CaRPG. Makes sense to me.

i saw it on G4 Tech TV...they showed an xbox preview of it, they might have a ps2 version aswell, but since im buying XBOX in like 1 week due to the release of DOOM 3 haha I CANT WAIT!!!!

[PlatinumBlade]

Well, I played the heck out of the first one and enjoyed it immensely. If the second one is only as good as the first it will still be awesome but I expect there will be many improvements. I didn't try to play the XBOX version of the game but maybe I should. I would be interested in finding out how different the game feels on a gamepad instead of mouse and keyboard. But for a game like that I enjoy having high resolution available to me. If I had a HD TV for my XBOX and HD enabled games I'd have it there too but I am not quite that rich yet. :D

[King Crimson]

Can't wait to play this game :D

Don't know if the PC version is out, yet ...

Is there any other hack & slay Diablo / Dungeon Sige like game out there thats worth porting!? :confused:

[pimentoLoaf]

I'd love to see the EDITORS for the various games released under MacOS X, such as the ones for Ghost Recon and Medal of Honor.

[Mord]

Can't wait to play this game :D

Don't know if the PC version is out, yet ...

Is there any other hack & slay Diablo / Dungeon Sige like game out there thats worth porting!? :confused:

baulders gate dark allience, nice game a little too short and easy/hard/vhard modes are all the same but extreme mode is impossible.

[Ninja_Turtle]

haha i cant believe this post is still alive, that so much rules...GTA:SAN ANDREAS would be nice, comming out on PS2 this tuesday, PC port shouldnt be far off...hope they make Mac version

[mishi]

Morrownind and GTA 5

[Dalriada]

Is there any other hack & slay Diablo / Dungeon Sige like game out there thats worth porting!? :confused:

Heroes of Might and Magic V (due out in 2005 by Ubisoft) would be a great port. The previous Homm IV ex 3DO was ported by Contraband. Not sure then who would look at porting Homm V. :confused:

[Anarchy99]

haha i cant believe this post is still alive, that so much rules...GTA:SAN ANDREAS would be nice, comming out on PS2 this tuesday, PC port shouldnt be far off...hope they make Mac versionpc and xbox ports of san andreas are supposed to be released early 2005 the pc version was confirmed in Take-Two Interactive's third quarter, 2004 financial results and months before that R* or sources close to R* reported to official xbox magazine as well as others that the xbox version would be released close to the PC version and gave a very similar time frame
as for a mac version it wont happen unless they hand it off to a porting house but that wont happen because just like 3 and vice they will want more money than a porting house could offer

[Benj]

Cannot (well could but not going to) wade back through the thread so don't know if it has been mentioned.

Saw Rome Total War on a friends PC at the weekend. First time ever I have had computer envy about a non-Apple.

[mattmack]

Cannot (well could but not going to) wade back through the thread so don't know if it has been mentioned.

Saw Rome Total War on a friends PC at the weekend. First time ever I have had computer envy about a non-Apple.
I don't know if it was mentioned either, but I soooooo want this game for mac to come out. I don't know what engine it is based on or what. But whatever porting house wants my business forever port this title

:D

[Ninja_Turtle]

pc and xbox ports of san andreas are supposed to be released early 2005 the pc version was confirmed in Take-Two Interactive's third quarter, 2004 financial results and months before that R* or sources close to R* reported to official xbox magazine as well as others that the xbox version would be released close to the PC version and gave a very similar time frame
as for a mac version it wont happen unless they hand it off to a porting house but that wont happen because just like 3 and vice they will want more money than a porting house could offer

much like what happened to half life/counter strike...wanted more money ...tsk tsk tsk...PC companies, they got all the money...but dont have dignity

[Lotring]

anyone remember the game Rune??/ I love that game....it's a mac game but only runs in OS9 so it should be ported to OSX

[Ninja_Turtle]

anyone remember the game Rune??/ I love that game....it's a mac game but only runs in OS9 so it should be ported to OSX

ran under the UT engine...i think they have that ported