Anyone tempted to replace their current unibody MacBook with the 13'' MBP?

[Quillz]

I am seriously considering selling off my current unibody MacBook and replacing it with a 13'' MacBook Pro. At first I didn't care, but the improvements made to the display are quite nice, and having FireWire 800 could be useful, as I have a few external hard drives that would benefit from a FireWire connection, as opposed to USB.

[Insulin Junkie]

I am seriously considering selling off my current unibody MacBook and replacing it with a 13'' MacBook Pro.

Fail. You suck.

[/kidding]

But really, what are you expecting us to say? If you need the features of the new 13" MBP, then get it. Only you can decide on that.

[rgarjr]

I'm sure a lot of people have thought about it but, some like their machines the way they are.

[shady825]

NEVER!

CE 4 Life

[egk69]

What changing a CE MB for a cheap everyone can get one MBP!??

nahh! you have to be crazy!!, i would never change my CE :D
LOL!

[Insulin Junkie]

NEVER!

CE 4 Life

Haha.. you're really spreading this, huh! :)

[morrisman1]

i initially thought about it but then thought:

~ 2.33 vs 2.0 isnt going to be worth the upgrade.
~ same HDD/RAM
~ same graphics
~ i dont use firewire
~ screen doesnt bother me
~ ive never come across the situation where i have been left needing more battery time

so based on those conclusions it would be a waste of time for me to upgrade. These new machines are still excellent but not worth the upgrade cost for me.

[shady825]

Haha.. you're really spreading this, huh! :)

Im waiting for you to update your signature! ;)

[2056]

yeah, if i had the money i'd do it in a second!

[Insulin Junkie]

Im waiting for you to update your signature! ;)

I did, just for you. I feel special now. Yay!
Actually, I feel even more special having realized that my 2.0's the only aluminium laptop apple makes without a backlit keyboard. :cool:

[5DollaFootlong]

money is not the issue. whenever my computer fails, my apple store geniuses are to lazy to do repairs, so they just replace my computer. my current unibody 2.4 macbook is a reincarnation of a 2008 white macbook i purchased for school. trust me, even if something as minor as an airport card fails, those guys will offer me a replacement in a heartbeat. i love my apple store. :p

[SloopJohnB]

The old uMBs are now the only apple laptops to NOT have FW in years and years. Do you think this will affect the resale price?

[Insulin Junkie]

yeah, if i had the money i'd do it in a second!

Fail. You suck too.

[/kidding]

[shady825]

I did, just for you. I feel special now. Yay!
Actually, I feel even more special having realized that my 2.0's the only aluminium laptop apple makes without a backlit keyboard. :cool:

You are now part of my "gang"

haha

[Insulin Junkie]

You are now part of my "gang"

haha

Just as long as you don't start demanding any membership fees, I'm cool with it. :cool:

[shady825]

Just as long as you don't start demanding any membership fees, I'm cool with it. :cool:

You gotta wear the gang colors tho, Silver & Black (of course)

[morrisman1]

i guess i just joined your gang. I dont know how collectable the computer will be though, just special.

i love mine to bits and thats all that matters and when the time comes to upgrade it i will, but as long as a desktop is also practical to me i think i will still have my limited edition macbook. There's no sense forking out megabucks for a grunty laptop when you can spend little on a desktop, have the same or more power and then you dont feel as guilty when upgrading it just to keep up with technology

[Chase R]

I'm keepin' my 13" MB for a while. It's almost the same as the new 13" MBP (2.4GHz and 4GB).

[vendettabass]

Guess I might as well wait til' the i7 drops next year.

[Sareth]

No. It would be insane for me to sell off my two month old laptop for an SD card slot I wouldn't use and FW well... I bought the uni MB, why would I need FW ? that would make the initial purchase insane and finally extra battery life I wouldn't notice either.

[HnZ]

What's a Collector's Edition MacBook???

And a question... would it be a big improvement to put in 4gb RAM in my MacBook Unibody 2,4Ghz...???

[morrisman1]

i dunno why they reckon its a 'collectors edition' i prefer to call it a limited edition because its probably the shortest lived apple product line, the aluminium macbook (without pro written beside it).

I think they should have left it as a non-pro but having pro written there does make it sound better, that is a definite. im not saying its not suitable for a professional, it definetely is but the pro name should be there to upsell to the 15" and 17" models

[John Jacob]

I am seriously considering selling off my current unibody MacBook and replacing it with a 13'' MacBook Pro. At first I didn't care, but the improvements made to the display are quite nice, and having FireWire 800 could be useful, as I have a few external hard drives that would benefit from a FireWire connection, as opposed to USB.

You forgot the SD card slot and (the biggie, IMO), the improved battery.

I'm tempted to upgrade, but I just can't afford to right now. :(

I did, just for you. I feel special now. Yay!
Actually, I feel even more special having realized that my 2.0's the only aluminium laptop apple makes without a backlit keyboard. :cool:

That is incorrect. My 12" Powerbook was aluminium, and it didn't have a backlit keyboard either. Sorry to burst your bubble. :D

[HnZ]

so i could call my macbook also "limited edition"???

should i upgrade my ram to 4gb?

[morrisman1]

so i could call my macbook also "limited edition"???

should i upgrade my ram to 4gb?

answers: if you want to; if you feel you need it. You only need it for stuff like photoshop, final cut, logic pro or vmware fusion/parallels

[HnZ]

i use photoshop, but: if i use iTunes, Safari, Quicktime and texteditor; the activity monitor says 25mb ram free; begin swapping is: 133mb...
RAM used is: 1,97GB

i dunno why it is soo high... do you have a answer??

[Steveness]

Nope, completely satisfied with my machine.

I have no use for FireWire or an SD card slot.
If I wanted the backlit keyboard I would have purchased the 2.4GHz model at the time.
I find the screen suitable for my needs.
The processor speed wouldn't make any difference to me as I don't use intensive applications on a regular basis.

Although, the longer battery life would be welcomed.. ;)

[HnZ]

yes, longer battery life would be very good... as I am a student and use my MacBook in school, it comes, that the i have to search a plug-in...

i've seen, that 4gb ram would cost with student-discout only 138€ at mcshark... is this much?? how much did you buy for 4gb ram??

and is in the late 2008 macbook the maximum ram 6gb??

[J.711]

Yeah I must admit it was a bit of a shock.. but I dunno whether my "Collector's Item" will shoot up or fall rapidly in price. I mean, after all.. no FW (who cares), no SD slot (again, who cares), but the biggest disappointment was the illuminated keyboard part. Wow, that would've been sweet. Still love my machine, but I wouldn't mind a trade-in :P too bad I've already had it for two months though.. :( Still, I think I'll stop fretting over this (after all, we've got a REMOVABLE battery.. HELL YEAH) and wait till a couple of years when there are more significant changes.:cool:

[HnZ]

do you enjoy the 4gb ram?

[ux4all]

The biggest annoyance is the ability to put in 8GB RAM and have it work. It's the same feeling I have when I think of my old MBP. It's one of the only models limited to 3GB RAM and can't have the HDD replaced without thrashing the applecare (or what is left on it).

This will be the first time I do not buy as soon as it comes out.

[errol]

The biggest annoyance is the ability to put in 8GB RAM and have it work. It's the same feeling I have when I think of my old MBP. It's one of the only models limited to 3GB RAM and can't have the HDD replaced without thrashing the applecare (or what is left on it).

This will be the first time I do not buy as soon as it comes out.

The only problem is that 8gb of RAM is upwards of $650-700!!

[crackbookpro]

The old uMBs are now the only apple laptops to NOT have FW in years and years. Do you think this will affect the resale price?

it might, and I am also wondering why they did this?

Why would they stop putting FW in the Macs?...that is there thing, ya know.

CrackBookPro:cool:

[jtibbitt]

Soon enough there will be something that blows all current models out of the water. It always happens. Imagine buying a new one now and next year they put out a quad-core laptop or something like that.

[mathieuheartmac]

I was a little pissed yesterday, but I got over it. Two days ago- I was not thinking of selling my 8 month old computer and spending another $400 or so for a new one-so I obviously don't really need to.
The longer I wait, the better computer I will be able to replace my "collector's edition" with.

This was my first experience with an apple update affecting a product I have.
It stings, but I'm going to experience it many more times so I may as well get used to it.

[opinioncircle]

I won't replace it, because I'm buying a new uMBP. But what astonished me is the upgrade price to 8GB, $900?!!! Pretty big price here

[shady825]

The only problem is that 8gb of RAM is upwards of $650-700!!

That will change in time...as everything does..

I would think the "Collectors Edition" should be able to take 8GB.... Just need a firmware upgrade! :)

[Insulin Junkie]

That is incorrect. My 12" Powerbook was aluminium, and it didn't have a backlit keyboard either. Sorry to burst your bubble. :D

I know that, I guess I should have been more specific! I meant the only current design aluminium macbook :)

[shady825]

I know that, I guess I should have been more specific! I meant the only current design aluminium macbook :)

Morning!

I knew what you meant! ;)

It's funny coming on here this morning and seeing the flood of "Collectors Editions" :D

We kinda blew that up last night! haha! Everyone this morning is probably like "huh!?" haha!

[Insulin Junkie]

Morning!

I knew what you meant! ;)

It's funny coming on here this morning and seeing the flood of "Collectors Editions" :D

We kinda blew that up last night! haha! Everyone this morning is probably like "huh!?" haha!

G'morning! (It's 3pm where I am, so what's morning for you now was morning for me when we first talked :))

Yeah, though I've seen some 'huh, what's a collectors edition macbook???' comments around. Huh, they really feel like they're missing out now, maybe they'll cancel that order on their new 13" 'pro's' and go retro with the CE.:D

I'm still trying to spread the word... I'm sick of this 'omg wish I could sell my old one and get the nu one!!1' posts, this notebook refresh should be different on MR. Alu MB pride! ;)

pps. You should really make a CE MB wallpaper for us elite members :)

[shady825]

pps. You should really make a CE MB wallpaper for us elite members :)

Oh I'm workin on it! haha!! :D


I see some people trying to rep the "Limited Edition" but we both know where it's really at! CE BABY!!! :cool:

[Insulin Junkie]

Oh I'm workin on it! haha!! :D


I see some people trying to rep the "Limited Edition" but we both know where it's really at! CE BABY!!! :cool:

Sweet. I can fire up my photoshop CS too if you get stuck, when you do make it, post it in the wallpapers forum and PM me the link, we'll plaster that thread with wallpapers :cool:

Yeah, we should try to convert the regs with 'limited edition' in their sigs... we need a unified party line!

[HnZ]

i would like to have this wallpaper too... =)

[Insulin Junkie]

i would like to have this wallpaper too... =)

Nice! Look out for it in the picture gallery :cool: I'll get working on one too.

[shady825]

Sweet. I can fire up my photoshop CS too if you get stuck, when you do make it, post it in the wallpapers forum and PM me the link, we'll plaster that thread with wallpapers :cool:

Yeah, we should try to convert the regs with 'limited edition' in their sigs... we need a unified party line!

Do you know what font they use for the "MacBook" label? (under the screen)


Yea we gotta let everyone know if you dont have a CE, well your just not that cool! haha!!

[Insulin Junkie]

Do you know what font they use for the "MacBook" label? (under the screen)


Yea we gotta let everyone know if you dont have a CE, well your just not that cool! haha!!

I think this one. At least they used it for the MBA.
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/typodermic/expressway/extra-light/

Yeah, I know. We're punkass with out outcast CE's! Remember to throw me a PM when you're done with it, and send me the link to your picture gallery thread! :)

[shady825]

I think this one. At least they used it for the MBA.
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/typodermic/expressway/extra-light/

Yeah, I know. We're punkass with out outcast CE's! Remember to throw me a PM when you're done with it, and send me the link to your picture gallery thread! :)

Yea I found it, its called "Myriad PRO" how funny, PRO!
I think they meant "Myriad CE" :D

[Insulin Junkie]

Yea I found it, its called "Myriad PRO" how funny, PRO!
I think they meant "Myriad CE" :D

Ah Myriad Pro? Cool, at least I think that one's free!

I know, right? :) I'll get working on it now.

[HnZ]

yes, please post the link to the wallpaper... would like to have it as my desktop wallpaper :D

would be very great!!!

[Jisuo]

Nah, I'm perfectly happy with my CE I got in October. :)

[andymodem]

I got the 13" uMB last Saturday. I will be bringing it back to Best Buy as I ordered the new 13" MBP from Apple yesterday. :rolleyes:

[cuube]

I have the Collectors Edition too, and will use it until it stops working (never, I think). Can I plz be a part of the club nao? :)

[iShater]

I'm tempted to replace my 12" PB with a machine that finally meets all the things I loved about it (except maybe the glossy display). Unfortunately I bought a last gen 15" MBP end of last year because i had to keep the FW. No I have an aging 12" PB and a large but wonderful 15" MBP vs. a single super portable and perfect for my needs 13" MBP.

UGH/yaay. :D

(yes, interesting situation.)

[rwilliams]

Not at all. My MacBook works beautifully, and I'm very pleased with it. I have no need to always have the latest and greatest machine, nor am I trying to be one of the "cool kids". I'm a grown man who doesn't go through buyers' remorse. If I'd needed Firewire, or a backlit keyboard, or the word 'Pro' on the screen, I'd have bought a machine that met those requirements the first time.

[n20nine]

i just put mine up for sale, if i get a good price, will let go of it. need some cash now, but will be back with the new ones sometime later.

[chucktown]

Is apple going to continue to manufacture the removable batteries for our limited editions? Or will they have enough in stores etc. for those that need replacing?

[bozz2006]

I'm the type of person prone to wanting the newest/best, so, yeah, I'd like to have the 13" MBP. but i know it would be stupid to spend my money on this upgrade when there are far more reasonable and necessary things to spend my money on.

[macbook yes]

Listening to WWDC, I was pretty upset at first, but I bought it 3 weeks ago, and I realized I'm fine with this one. I don't use firewire, my camera uses an xD card (stupid camera, but it was a nice gift :)), the no backlight keyboard was a mistake on my part. I didn't want to pay for the 2.4 because all I needed from that was the keyboard. Really the only thing I want is the longer battery life as I will be in classes for 5 hours mwf and 3-4 tth, but if I need to I can get another battery. Thats something you can't do with the new one.

[pinoyplaya]

I would love to considering I just got mine not too long ago but its not worth the extra money/hassle trying to sell my MacBook. Besides, I bought this MacBook for basic computing... not as my main computer. I have a custom built desktop that does everything I need.... honestly.... overpowered because I built it for gaming but I no longer play video games.

[yoyomaster]

If I just had money laying around that I had no better use for then sure, but this computer will serve me good for at least a few years.

[donster28]

Count me in for the new one. I'm lucky to have sold my less than year old UMB 2.0 for $1000. I know, I know. I lost a few bucks (bought it originally for $1249), but I can consider the extra bucks an upgrade to the former top of the line UMB (albeit a costly upgrade...hehehe)

[Apple all life]

I'm the type of person prone to wanting the newest/best, so, yeah, I'd like to have the 13" MBP. but i know it would be stupid to spend my money on this upgrade when there are far more reasonable and necessary things to spend my money on.
This is what I am thinking also, nothing really to upgrade for not for me at least.

[drew0020]

I like the idea of the battery the most. You do get 4GB of ram as well. I want to sell mine, but only if I could lose less than $200 on the sale. Otherwise its not worth it to me especially with the chance of dead pixels, etc.

[crackbookpro]

Soon enough there will be something that blows all current models out of the water. It always happens. Imagine buying a new one now and next year they put out a quad-core laptop or something like that.

I feel like the quad core laptop is coming sooner than later too :D

CrackBookPro:cool:

[andymodem]

I got the 13" uMB last Saturday. I will be bringing it back to Best Buy as I ordered the new 13" MBP from Apple yesterday. :rolleyes:

I hate to flip-flop on stuff, but I did some serious thinking about my purchase.

-I've had my MacBook for 3 days now and I love it. Already upgraded it to a 320GB 7200RPM drive, and will get 4GB of RAM for it soon.
-I don't look at the keys when typing, so what good will backlit keys do for me?
-I don't make money with photos/video, so a "better" screen dosn't mean anything.
-I'm never on battery power for more then 1-2 hours, so that's a moot point for me as well.
-Anything processor intensive or time consuming like encoding/muxing/downloading/etc I can offload to my Windows Home Server box with an overclocked Q9400. With remote desktop, it's almost like sitting at the machine.

Now, I got mine at Best Buy, and they just lowered the price from 1299 to 1099, so I went in and got the difference credited back to my card. Plus, putting it on my Best Buy card got me 18 months of no interest which is a pretty good deal IMO. After all is said and done, I'm happy with my purchase, and if Best Buy gets the new models in in the next couple weeks, maybe I'll do an exchange, but if not, oh well. :)

Felt good to type all that. :p

[RiCEADDiCTBOY]

i initially thought about it but then thought:

~ 2.33 vs 2.0 isnt going to be worth the upgrade.
~ same HDD/RAM
~ same graphics
~ i dont use firewire
~ screen doesnt bother me
~ ive never come across the situation where i have been left needing more battery time

so based on those conclusions it would be a waste of time for me to upgrade. These new machines are still excellent but not worth the upgrade cost for me.

Well, for me it was a no-brainer. I took my MacBook back to aafes today and although laptop less my iPod touch will get me through for now. The FireWire will be a blessed feature for my huge daily file transfers and the sd card is something I use quite frequently freeing up needed USBs. The added Ethernet port is welcomed as well for direct connection when at home for stability and saving me the need to use an additional dongle. Last but not least the added battery is something I need as the battery life now is too short for my tastes.

[Sikaffy]

Guess I might as well wait til' the i7 drops next year.

+1 exactly :)

[hellfire88]

Eh I already spent the money and time to get an Invisible Shield full-body skin, moshi clearguard (keyboard cover), and Speck SeeTHRU Satin hardcase for my 2.4GHz uMB so upgrading to the new 13" MBP would be a pain (gotta buy all that stuff for the new model and apply it again). I don't use FW and i can live with no built-in SD card reader so I'm happy for now :).

[pellets007]

Of course I have, and I still am simply to satisfy my need to have the latest and greatest. But I don't use SD cards, I've never used FireWire. The only thing that entices me is the new battery and location changes between the USB and MiniDP. The speed bump is far to little to notice, and those two I mentioned aren't worth the ~$500. I'll stick with my 2.4 unibody MacBook for another year.

[phobic99]

I went ahead and bought one of the newer 13" MBPs and I'm now looking for a buyer for my current MB. I could use the SD card quite a bit as I think it's silly to have such an expensive notebook without one when my girlfriend's crappy HP has several kinds of media ports. A little embarrassing to say the least but she loves my laptop way more.

Ah well, I should be getting my new one on Friday at the latest.

[bonswizzle]

i initially thought about it but then thought:

~ 2.33 vs 2.0 isnt going to be worth the upgrade.
~ same HDD/RAM
~ same graphics
~ i dont use firewire
~ screen doesnt bother me
~ ive never come across the situation where i have been left needing more battery time

so based on those conclusions it would be a waste of time for me to upgrade. These new machines are still excellent but not worth the upgrade cost for me.

This is exactly how I see the whole situation too. No point in upgrading as I was (and still am) over the moon with my Unibody 2.4GHz I got a month ago. No regrets. :cool:

[Sareth]

Looking at the new case the kensington lock slot being on the right next to the superdrive would be a real pain for me.

[HnZ]

Just thought about to make a group in facebook for all the Collector Edition members :D

What do you think about???

[Chozo]

Good grief...this Limited/Collectors Edition is nothing more than just a nice name for a machine Apple felt was useless to expand upon.

With a name like that, you people are going to make the general, uneducated public think that these machines are rare and valuable when in reality they are outdated machines with no FW or SD card ports. If they fill all your needs then that's fine but don't give them a name like that. I may as well call my Macbook a collectors edition as it's a Whitebook at 2.4Ghz.

[gibbz]

I may as well call my Macbook a collectors edition as it's a Whitebook at 2.4Ghz.

Not really. There have been many revisions of the white MacBook. There has only been one version of the unibody MacBooks.

[Chozo]

Not really. There have been many revisions of the white MacBook. There has only been one version of the unibody MacBooks.

But it's the only Macbook that was made in plastic and available at 2.4Ghz!!!1

Seriously now, out of my entire post, that's the part you chose to reply to? :p

[clyde2801]

I'm tempted to replace my 12" PB with a machine that finally meets all the things I loved about it (except maybe the glossy display). Unfortunately I bought a last gen 15" MBP end of last year because i had to keep the FW. No I have an aging 12" PB and a large but wonderful 15" MBP vs. a single super portable and perfect for my needs 13" MBP.

UGH/yaay. :D

(yes, interesting situation.)

What are you using the 12" for? Max out the ram, install a newer, larger capacity (and thus, faster) hard drive, and tweak your settings in the OS, and it's a surprisingly capable little machine for basic tasks.

Yeah, encoding a video would be painful, but browsing, email and word processing, it rocks!

[ahjjones]

Not at all. My MacBook works beautifully, and I'm very pleased with it. I have no need to always have the latest and greatest machine, nor am I trying to be one of the "cool kids". I'm a grown man who doesn't go through buyers' remorse. If I'd needed Firewire, or a backlit keyboard, or the word 'Pro' on the screen, I'd have bought a machine that met those requirements the first time.
I couldn't have said it better myself, sir.

[shady825]

I have the Collectors Edition too, and will use it until it stops working (never, I think). Can I plz be a part of the club nao? :)

Your IN!

[zotes24]

Yea, i was mad because previously i wanted the 15 inch but was a little too much ( i spent about $1600 on my 13 inch) and now with the price drop i could have gotten the 15 inch pro. Thats the thing im pissed about is the price drop. I almost sold my 6 month old Alum macbook for $1200 today but then the difference with tax for the lowest 15 inch would be $545 + $400 lost from the sale =$945. DEF not worth it then.

[nyry30]

I was tempted to sell my alubook which is also about 7months old, but I realized I don't use FW and the sd card slot doesn't bother me either. I'd only be paying for the extra 130mhz (2.53ghz vs 2.4ghz) or so, better screen (I think) and the battery, which is not enough for me to go through the hassle of selling and then paying a little bit more. If I'm going UMBP, I'm going 15'' with the 9600GT and at least 2.66ghz, nothing less.

[LFC.SL]

Its a great machine. I would very much like an SD card slot but apart from that I have no need at all for anything else. Stated improvement in battery life is not a concern at this point as I am a city boy, and I am not going to cry over .2ghz extra or 4GB ram when I do not max out with my current usage anyway

The way I see it, minimum upgrade is always two generations. I mean generations, Intel processor refreshes do not count

[harcosparky]

With a name like that, you people are going to make the general, uneducated public think that these machines are rare and valuable when in reality they are outdated machines with no FW or SD card ports.

I am heavily into photography and will never use the SD port.

I think they should put the Express slot on all notebooks and sell adapters for the various memory cards, especially the professional CF cards! ;)



Firewire is something I used to use frequently though not as much anymore.

When I was big into doing video work, I used Firewire all the time. Since I decided still photography was more my desire than video, my need for Firewire has diminished. However some still cameras do have Firewire ports.

[silentnite]

Can't say it didn't cross my mind, however being the proud owner of what may be the the end of the white Macbook as we know it. I won't chance it, I just purchased my MB about a week ago and I'm already upgrading the HDD & memory.

We know from history In the next upgrade Apple could change the design. We now know that the white MB is the only MB. So that would make it a collectors Edition. It's the only MB with a 400 F.W. connection & the polycarbonate shell.

You will have time to save up for MBP JR. if you feel the need, it will still be around.

[harcosparky]

MBP JR.

MBP Jr <---- that's cute

I wonder of the called the 12" Powerbook the PB Jr? :lol:

IMO Apple is correcting its mistake of the past, deleting the smaller notebook from the high end line-up! ;)

[jmann]

Well, I love my UMB and don't think the upgrades are worth it. I think my screen looks beautiful. :)

[kiranmk2]

I immediately thought about selling my 2 month old UMB 2.0, but then I actually looked at the the new features:

SD slot: yes, really nice to have, but I only copy images from my camera 3-4 times a year and finding the cable isn't much of a chore

FW800: again, nice on paper, but I don't have any FW devices - I use a NAS and TC rather than a FW hard drive. I guess target disc mode could be nice, but not at the moment.

Better screen: The current screen is fine for me as when I use it it's at the correct angle.

faster cpu: unnoticeable except for x264 encodes - I just leave it overnight with those and the majority of my DVD collection is already done.

So I'm keeping it. This time next year, hopefully the £ will be a bit stronger, so the price should go down again, USB3 will be here along with Arrandale cpus. Of course, there'll probably be a down side such as back to Intel graphics, but my current MB should hold its value (especially with 2 years Apple Care left).

[MaskingTape]

Not at all. What has changed? SD slot? I connect my camera through usb, nicer screen? Ok that pisses me off a bit lol. Firewire? Never used it on my Macbook. The Battery is nice too but I'd rather have one I can change out myself. But for people looking to upgrade an older white model, it would be an excellent buy.


(Annoyed at the price drop too! lol)

[Capt Crunch]

I'm really glad I was able to return my refurbished uMB for a bottom-of-the-line MBP Jr. The screen is much nicer and I saved myself $500 (after selling the free iPod). The MBA was incredibly tempting for the new, lower price, but the massive expandability of the current MBP Jr is great.

[aussiemarks]

I love my macbook and i would never change it until it is truly dead. And its nice to think im a minority!!!! lol :D just a quick question, Is the screen update the same as the one that was being discussed a few weeks ago as a silent update for the now retired macbooks??

[rgarjr]

My Alu Book is the first Mac I've had so no way am I gonna sell it to get a new one.

[HLdan]

I'm not naming any posters but I just love how some of the UMB owners are justifying why they like their Macbook instead of the new Pro model. Firewire was the most complained about loss in the UMB and now Apple puts it back and some people are saying, "Oh well I don't use FW anyway so I don't care". Or they say, "My screen is fine, I just keep the angle perfect so I don't care about the new MBP screens" and hardly any of the UMB owners will mention the 8GB supported ram in the new Pro models or the extended battery life because they know they can't crap on those features.
Some of the UMB owners just want to make themselves feel good about their Mac and won't admit that they're pissed about the new models and wish they had one.

How can anyone talk crap about the new models when they have a faster CPU, more supported ram options, much better screen, SD card slot and 7 hour battery and cheaper price?

[Teh Don Ditty]

Collectors Edition? Really?

Get over yourselves. :rolleyes:

[jessica.]

I'm not naming any posters but I just love how some of the UMB owners are justifying why they like their Macbook instead of the new Pro model.
No offense but don't you often defend the MBAir?
People inherently feel a need to defend their purchases, it is fully understandable.

[Sipheren]

I would like the new one for the battery life but since mine is used as a Desktop connected to an external display and only moved very rarely I cant justify spending money for a couple extra hours of battery

[Abstract]

Collectors Edition? Really?

Get over yourselves. :rolleyes:

I have a MacBook, except mine's vintage. It's just like the 13" MBP available today, except it's far more awesome because it contains really old components in it, and the exterior patina is very lustrous due to natural aging, and the constant polishing I do with my keys, much like the fine patina on my old leather Pumas that I get from gravel, and kicking ass.

[HLdan]

No offense but don't you often defend the MBAir?
People inherently feel a need to defend their purchases, it is fully understandable.

I no longer own a Macbook Air. This is a different scenario. People were complaining about the Air having screen lines and the lines never bothered me which is why I defended it. In this case people are defending their existing Macbook against the new Pros, while downplaying the new Pro's features, it's a completely different argument.

I'm not at all offended by your comment but I do have to say that maybe you spend too much time on the forums if you can easily recall what people post here. I can hardly remember who wrote what on here 5 minutes ago. ;)

[Teh Don Ditty]

I have a MacBook, except mine's vintage. It's just like the 13" MBP available today, except it's far more awesome because it contains really old components in it, and the exterior patina is very lustrous due to natural aging, and the constant polishing I do with my keys, much like the fine patina on my old leather Pumas that I get from gravel, and kicking ass.

Oh, I am truly jealous of your Vintage MacBook. It's clearly superior to the Collector's Edition.

How much do you want for it?

[Abstract]

Four minutes of leg-humping. Ok GO!

[Teh Don Ditty]

Psh, piece of cake or leg

*starts humping*

[tayshon]

My Alu Book is the first Mac I've had so no way am I gonna sell it to get a new one.

Ditto, I love my MacBook all the new stuff I don't even need. Will be keeping this one for a while :).

[Hurben]

I bought my 2.0Ghz MacBook Unibody (CE) just over a month ago, now they have fixed everything that I thought was lacking, 8Gb ram max, illuminated keyboard, I am always using SD Cards (there was no clue that they would include these!), a better screen would be greatly appreciated (mine is an LG and it's ok, but not great), longer battery life!! I can't see myself ever carrying around a 2nd battery and my machine always runs out of juice.

I didn't want a laptop bigger than the 13" screen and previously the unibody MacBook was the only option. In one day, they halved the value of my recent purchase.

Do you think that if my mainboard was to fail in the next couple of months, they would replace it with one of the new ones?

[emt1]

I returned my 13" uMB for a 13" MBP, and Apple refunded me $33. :D

[likemyorbs]

I think it's stupid for UMB owners to upgrade right now, the intel core 2 duo is aging, at least wait until they start dropping i7's into those babies, then it'll be worth the upgrade. i mean come on seriously, they rebranded it but left all of the important internals the same, and still only 2gb ram standard??? come onnnn

[kim6ball]

I too returned my old macbook. I lucked out. I didn't have to pay the restocking fee and walked out of the store with $100 in my pocket.

[NewMacbookPlz]

Collectors Edition? Really?

Get over yourselves. :rolleyes:

Sorry, it's hard to hear you from way up there....:D

[Chozo]

Sorry, it's hard to hear you from way up there....:D

I do believe you mean "here." Otherwise you're saying he is above you. :p

[NewMacbookPlz]

I do believe you mean "here." Otherwise you're saying he is above you. :p

High horse, let me show you it... (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_quote_get_off_your_high_horse_mean)

[Chozo]

High horse, let me show you it... (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_quote_get_off_your_high_horse_mean)

I don't think he was acting better than you.

So who is on that high horse, Mr. Collectors Edition?

[Chase R]

While it would be really cool to have the new 13" MBP... I don't really NEED it. My 2.4GHz 4GB UMB does just fine for what I need.

The only reason why I would buy the new 13" MPB would be for the battery life... everything else doesn't matter to me too much.

[Abstract]

So who is on that high horse, Mr. Collectors Edition?

I think he should get off his annoying horse and just call a spade a spade.

[iphonesrq]

I too returned my old macbook. I lucked out. I didn't have to pay the restocking fee and walked out of the store with $100 in my pocket.

Were you within your 14 days? Also, which apple store?
I'm trying to return mine but I purchased 16 days before the upgrade, just 2 days late.

[HLdan]

It all depends on the store and the manager. My buddy bought his Unibody Macbook a month before WWDC. He went down to his local Apple store where he bought it and the manager gave him his money back with no restocking fee and my buddy ordered the new 13"MBP online with free iPod Touch.

[bc008]

I don't think he was acting better than you.

So who is on that high horse, Mr. Collectors Edition?

whoa whoa whoa! Speaking for myself here, I dont really think that my computer is ever going to be a "collector's Edition", its just something funny/catchy to say since our models were only out for around 9 months. I know they technically still exist in the 13" MBP form factor, but I dont think apple changes names of stuff so quickly so often

[NewMacbookPlz]

whoa whoa whoa! Speaking for myself here, I dont really think that my computer is ever going to be a "collector's Edition", its just something funny/catchy to say since our models were only out for around 9 months. I know they technically still exist in the 13" MBP form factor, but I dont think apple changes names of stuff so quickly so often

See, you put what I wanted to say much more eloquently than I would have. This forum is pretty flame-free compared to other places I post, so thanks! :)

[shady825]

whoa whoa whoa! Speaking for myself here, I dont really think that my computer is ever going to be a "collector's Edition", its just something funny/catchy to say since our models were only out for around 9 months. I know they technically still exist in the 13" MBP form factor, but I dont think apple changes names of stuff so quickly so often

Somebody finally gets it!!!!
*HIGH FIVE*

[Wicked1]

funny one of the only reasons to upgrade would be the discrete video on the Pro, but now Apple has that setup only on the High End MBP 15.4" and the 17" so not worth the $ for Snow:rolleyes:

I am currently sporting an Mac Classic Unibody MB 13.3 with the 2.4 CPU and 4GB/320GB HDD.

The fact that I have 3 years before I really need to replace it and I can upgrade the HDD and replace the battery myself is cool.

MacBook SE is here to stay, besides current upgrades are not worth having to redo my entire MB, sell it buy another would lose too much $.

[Chozo]

whoa whoa whoa! Speaking for myself here, I dont really think that my computer is ever going to be a "collector's Edition", its just something funny/catchy to say since our models were only out for around 9 months. I know they technically still exist in the 13" MBP form factor, but I dont think apple changes names of stuff so quickly so often


You know what? I'm not going to talk about this anymore and I urge all (early 2009) Whitebook 2.4Ghz owners out there to call yours "Elite Edition" as it makes just as much sense. :p

[M-5]

My parents had purchased two base UMB for my sister and me for graduation, and fortunately it was within the 14 days, so I went to best buy and they gave me credit to purchase the new ones without the restocking fee. Since they were actually cheaper, I went today and picked up a base model and the 2.53 GHz model for $100 more. And I got two Canon photo printers for $10 each (they were marked incorrectly). Talk about a good day.

Unfortunately I can't use it yet since it is currently transferring all my files from my previous Mac through migration assistant...wirelessly. It's painfully long (8 hours/ 4 more to go).

Does anyone know how I would go about getting Snow Leopard for $10 since I just purchased them?

[Chozo]

My parents had purchased two base UMB for my sister and me for graduation, and fortunately it was within the 14 days, so I went to best buy and they gave me credit to purchase the new ones without the restocking fee. Since they were actually cheaper, I went today and picked up a base model and the 2.53 GHz model for $100 more. And I got two Canon photo printers for $10 each (they were marked incorrectly). Talk about a good day.

Unfortunately I can't use it yet since it is currently transferring all my files from my previous Mac through migration assistant...wirelessly. It's painfully long (8 hours/ 4 more to go).

Does anyone know how I would go about getting Snow Leopard for $10 since I just purchased them?

Congrats on that!

I think details about how new owners are getting SL for $10 is still non-existant, no?

[justit]

I returned my 13" uMB for a 13" MBP, and Apple refunded me $33. :D

nice move, the 13" pro has the new 09CA1 screen, stunning blacks and better viewing angles than the Uni Macbook 09C89 screen.

[JimboJones97]

I just upgraded yesterday. I bought a 2.0 uMB in january. I sold it for $1100 the day they announced the new ones. I bought the 2.26 MBP model. When you combine the education discount and the iPod touch and printer I got for free (which I plan to sell for ~180) I will essentially have gotten paid $40 to upgrade to the new model.

[Odid]

Have a question. I bought iLife and iWork. I'm going to put it on ebay and wanted to advertise it as having iLife and iWork. How would I go about leaving this installed when I wipe out the HD? TYIA

[Ironduke]

collectors Edition For the Win!:cool:

[RYpop]

I was initially saddened by the announcement, but I love my macbook CE :D
so i'm more than happy to keep it!

[Odid]

what's up with page six?

edit: oh nvm. It showed a page 6, but when you clicked on it, it went back to page 5.

Anyway, can anybody answer my question?

[NewMacbookPlz]

Have a question. I bought iLife and iWork. I'm going to put it on ebay and wanted to advertise it as having iLife and iWork. How would I go about leaving this installed when I wipe out the HD? TYIA

Wipe the hard drive, and just include the disks with the computer? If you digital downloaded the program, just give them the serial. If you got it illegally, too bad.

[firewater]

13" MBP like the evil twin sister that you never know what could be wrong with her...:)

[jecapaga]

My parents had purchased two base UMB for my sister and me for graduation, and fortunately it was within the 14 days, so I went to best buy and they gave me credit to purchase the new ones without the restocking fee. Since they were actually cheaper, I went today and picked up a base model and the 2.53 GHz model for $100 more. And I got two Canon photo printers for $10 each (they were marked incorrectly). Talk about a good day.

Unfortunately I can't use it yet since it is currently transferring all my files from my previous Mac through migration assistant...wirelessly. It's painfully long (8 hours/ 4 more to go).

Does anyone know how I would go about getting Snow Leopard for $10 since I just purchased them?


June 16th those details are to be released. Rest assured that apparently you will receive snow leopard for $9.99

[unixufan]

i dunno why they reckon its a 'collectors edition' i prefer to call it a limited edition because its probably the shortest lived apple product line, the aluminium macbook (without pro written beside it).

I think they should have left it as a non-pro but having pro written there does make it sound better, that is a definite. im not saying its not suitable for a professional, it definetely is but the pro name should be there to upsell to the 15" and 17" models

it reminds of iPod photo i bought long time ago. it was only a few months before iPod video came out.

[Quillz]

it reminds of iPod photo i bought long time ago. it was only a few months before iPod video came out.

It was actually called "iPod Photo" for about a month, and then renamed to "iPod photo." And then five months later, it was merged with the standard iPod line.

I remember actually saving up to get one at the time, since I believe it was $699 for the 60 GB model. By the time I had the money, the fifth generation had already been released!

[conch575]

If I had money coming out of my ears I'd replace my White MacBook.. But I've grown so attached to it and it was really expensive.. I bought it with blood sweat and tears.. Translation: Working at Mc Donalds every day after school and every weekend!

[Chase R]

Translation: Working at Mc Donalds every day after school and every weekend!

That sh¡t's huck man... I dunno if I could do that.

[conch575]

That sh¡t's huck man... I dunno if I could do that.

I really wanted a MacBook.. I doubt I would even do it again, McDonalds is such slavery, I saved like 2.5K on a $6 wage.

[rushmere]

The only problem is that 8gb of RAM is upwards of $650-700!!

Think yourself lucky. In the UK, Apple is charging £800 to upgrade from 4Gb to 8GB, which is currently equivalent to over $1,300!!! :eek:

[Bengt77]

Okay, guys. While everybody was busy discussing, I've been busy actually making a MacBook CE desktop picture. Here it is. (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7154/macbookce.jpg) Hope you like it.

[Ironduke]

Okay, guys. While everybody was busy discussing, I've been busy actually making a MacBook CE desktop picture. Here it is. (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7154/macbookce.jpg) Hope you like it.

You Da man! :cool:

[8theapple]

I was tempted - very tempted so I took the first steps in taking the plunge. I put my 2.0 Unibody on CL on Wednesday and it sold a couple of days later. Crunching the numbers in conjunction with the edu offers, I would lose less than $100 so it was worth it IMO. I'll be waiting a week to purchase my 13" MBP. :apple:

[budkid]

I do wish I had that SD slot! I always have to carry my camera cable with me in my bag. It would just be convenient.

[mac88]

Okay, guys. While everybody was busy discussing, I've been busy actually making a MacBook CE desktop picture. Here it is. (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7154/macbookce.jpg) Hope you like it.

Looks great! Thanks!

[5DollaFootlong]

NEVER!

CE 4 Life

true that

[kockgunner]

money is not the issue. whenever my computer fails, my apple store geniuses are to lazy to do repairs, so they just replace my computer. my current unibody 2.4 macbook is a reincarnation of a 2008 white macbook i purchased for school. trust me, even if something as minor as an airport card fails, those guys will offer me a replacement in a heartbeat. i love my apple store. :p

Haha. Reincarnation. Seriously though, the new Macbook Pro 13 is basically the same as the old unibody Macbook. It's only a pro in name. Adding a FW800 port doesn't make a machine 'pro'. Be happy knowing you have one of the few 'limited edition' aluminum Macbooks :)

[Chase R]

Okay, guys. While everybody was busy discussing, I've been busy actually making a MacBook CE desktop picture. Here it is. (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7154/macbookce.jpg) Hope you like it.

Dude that's awesome... Mad props. 

[Zillicah]

It's not really limited edition or collectors edition because they are still being sold on the apple store as refurbished.

[Jeremy81]

No, I've been very pleased with mine thus far and have no intentions of getting rid of it. I'll wait for the next update.

[Bengt77]

You Da man! :cool:
Looks great! Thanks!
Dude that's awesome... Mad props. 
Thanks, guys. Enjoy! http://www.head-fi.org/forums/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

[clyde2801]

I was over the in mbp threads....and it seems many of the 13" mbp's are throttled down to a 1.5 gb sata connection. 733 posts so far. The consensus is that the people who bought the intel and other premium ssds aren't getting the full speed benefit out of them because of the connection, and there's a lot of people who are right pi$$ed.

Another apple giveth, apple taketh away upgrade...

[Bengt77]

Yeah, I read that thread. Who da man now, huh? MacBook CE FTW!

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8396/biggrinh.gif

I do hope for all the people who've bought the 13" MacBook Pro that this issue can be fixed with a firmware upgrade, though.

[andalusia]

what's up with page six?

edit: oh nvm. It showed a page 6, but when you clicked on it, it went back to page 5.

This has happened on a few threads, has kinda confused me :rolleyes:

[chrislaw]

back to the topic :p

I'm torn on what to do. I'm selling my 2.0 umb. I need the backlit keyboard b/c I'm a night dweller, plus of the other little upgrades that comes along with the new 13" mbp. I'm torn on whether to get a new 13" mbp or a rfb 13" 2.4 umb.

thoughts?

[andalusia]

back to the topic :p

I'm torn on what to do. I'm selling my 2.0 umb. I need the backlit keyboard b/c I'm a night dweller, plus of the other little upgrades that comes along with the new 13" mbp. I'm torn on whether to get a new 13" mbp or a rfb 13" 2.4 umb.

thoughts?

REFURB REFURB REFURB REFURB REFURB.
The new Macbooks have a slower SATA connection! :eek: How awful!

[Ironduke]

REFURB REFURB REFURB REFURB REFURB.
The new Macbooks have a slower SATA connection! :eek: How awful!

another feather in the cap of the CE:cool:

[clyde2801]

back to the topic :p

I'm torn on what to do. I'm selling my 2.0 umb. I need the backlit keyboard b/c I'm a night dweller, plus of the other little upgrades that comes along with the new 13" mbp. I'm torn on whether to get a new 13" mbp or a rfb 13" 2.4 umb.

thoughts?

It kind of depends on your needs. Did you find out that you really need firewire? If so, MBP. SD card? Eh, get an adapter.

Another option would be to hold onto your current machine (lighted keyboard or no) and get all the use out of it that you can, or at least until apple upgrades the machines again with the newest proposed hotness from intel.

The other thing I've learned is to NOT rush out and buy the latest product from apple due to their giveth and taketh away upgrades. It's worth it to wait a couple of weeks or a month or so and let everyone else discover flaws and shortcomings on their $1K-2K laptops.

I've got an old, old school friend whose favorite saying is the first mac commandment: "Thou shalt NOT buy a version A." I'm modifying that somewhat: Don't be an apple pioneer. Let the braver and more reckless souls discover the bad water and quicksand.

[8theapple]

REFURB REFURB REFURB REFURB REFURB.
The new Macbooks have a slower SATA connection! :eek: How awful!


Get the new 13" MBP.

The slower SATA connection can be rectified via a upgrade as the connection is present inside the computer. SATA is only good if you use ssd anyways, and those are 1-2 years away from being mainstream.

Way better screen, better battery life, sd card slot, firewire, cheaper price in the US.

What reason would you get the 2.4?

[chrislaw]

well my 2.0 is all but sold and the cost to upgrade is very little for me right now.
The 2.4 is slightly cheaper, and has a removeable battery is why i was thinking of it. the new mbp has better battery life, and if i get a new laptop then i get the free touch after rebate... which I am then going to sell for probably 200 or so craigslist to someone local so they will save $29 +tax since i already have the 16gb and don't have a need for an 8gb.

I'm leaning toward mbp, b/c I'm worried the rfb 2.4 many not have a new screen, but the mbp as mentioned has slow sata speeds...

this is why I'm torn. Either way an update is going to happen...

thanks for the opinions!

[Bengt77]

Either way an update is going to happen...
If you're so set on getting a new MacBook, then at least stay in the club (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=714228) and get a refurbished 2,4GHz MacBook CE.

[chrislaw]

If you're so set on getting a new MacBook, then at least stay in the club (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=714228) and get a refurbished 2,4GHz MacBook CE.

this also is weighing heavily on my brain and making my decision that much harder :cool:

[Bengt77]

this also is weighing heavily on my brain and making my decision that much harder :cool:
Seriously, it shouldn't. What's holding you back from buying the new one? Will you get an SSD sometime in the future? Chances are you won't. Besides, chances are that the 1,5Gbps limit will be fixed by a firmware update. Seriously, I would get the MacBook Pro.

(Man, I feel like dirty now! :D)

[chrislaw]

Seriously, it shouldn't. What's holding you back from buying the new one? Will you get an SSD sometime in the future? Chances are you won't. Besides, chances are that the 1,5Gbps limit will be fixed by a firmware update. Seriously, I would get the MacBook Pro.

(Man, I feel like dirty now! :D)

No it wasn't a factor I was just being sarcastic. I think I am going to get the mbp. I just needed to talk it out I guess

[8theapple]

Chris, go to an Apple store and look at an uMB screen and then look at a uMBP screen. You'll pick the uMBP easily over the previous gen just for the screen quality itself.

[torbjoern]

Besides, chances are that the 1,5Gbps limit will be fixed by a firmware update.
Yeah - about equal to the chances that Apple releases a firmware update to enable transmission of audio signals through the Mini DisplayPort.

[chrislaw]

Chris, go to an Apple store and look at an uMB screen and then look at a uMBP screen. You'll pick the uMBP easily over the previous gen just for the screen quality itself.

yeh I did that today... I think the pros for me have out weighed the cons...

[rgarjr]

Yeah - about equal to the chances that Apple releases a firmware update to enable transmission of audio signals through the Mini DisplayPort.

I think Apple screwed us original uMB owners with the screen. Although I might say, I love my screen though.

[torbjoern]

I think Apple screwed us original uMB owners with the screen. Although I might say, I love my screen though.

They improved the screens in April. When did you buy yours?

[rgarjr]

I have the older batch I think.

[unixufan]

They improved the screens in April. When did you buy yours?
I got mine 2 weeks ago.

[gbeloev]

I just created a page comparing the color gamut of the unibody MacBook screen with that of the new MBP screen. The difference is quite noticeable. More information and a picture here:

http://www.beloev.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=macbook-gammut:macbook-gamut

I am also considering switching to the new MBP :)

Cheers,
-- Georgi

[Ironduke]

I just created a page comparing the color gamut of the unibody MacBook sreen with that of the new MBP screen. The difference is quite noticeable. More information and a picture here:

http://www.beloev.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=macbook-gammut:macbook-gamut

I am also considering switching to the new MBP :)

Cheers,
-- Georgi

has anyone done a full side by side comparison of the screens, is it really on a par with the air?

[Zafeer]

Ive been looking for a buyer for my 13" unibody macbook with 2.4ghz and 250gb hard drive so that I can buy the new MBP but I haven't had much luck. Im gonna see if the apple store will let me switch mine out if I pay the restocking fee. I definitely like the new screen, processor, more ram and the sd slot. Im still 50/50 on the battery as I like having a replaceable one. Everything else doesn't really bother me (firewire).

[mosx]

I wouldn't buy one of the MacBook "Pro" over the unibody system I have now.

As I posted in another thread, I spent a good amount of time playing with the new "Pros" and I'm very unimpressed, considering all the noise thats being made about the new screens. I have one of the original LG screens and, in comparison to the new 13.3" and 15.4" systems I played with, the "upgrade" is being greatly exaggerated. When properly calibrated, the screens look almost exactly the same minus the exception that the new one has the color saturation turned up ever so slightly.

As for the other features..

Firewire? Why? If you're going to redesign the motherboard for new ports, let's take that extra space that Firewire now occupies, take out the mini-DisplayPort, and put in HDMI! Give one regular USB port and one combined USB/eSATA.

Also, why only SD? And is Apple going to be like other PC manufacturers and release a nice flow of firmware updates to keep up with revised SDHC cards and increase compatibility with the higher capacity cards? I doubt it, because we all know how Apple HATES to give away free "new features".

Integrated battery? No thank you. Sure it lasts a tiny bit longer in real world. But I don't want to be tied into taking the system into Apple or sending it away for a replacement. Plus being able to swap out batteries gives me more overall battery life. Look at my HP for instance. With 2 batteries I can push 10 hours of battery life, and thats WITH dedicated graphics and a 15.4" CCFL backlit screen, as well as the older generation Core 2 Duo and more energy hungry DDR2 RAM.

Overall, the new MacBook "Pro" is a big overall downgrade. I also can't help but laugh at the fact that only Apple could get away with selling a $1700 15.4" system with integrated graphics. Do you know how cheap a PC with the same specs as the entry MacBook Pro goes for? About $1,000 less. And good luck finding a 15.4" PC that ships with ONLY 256MB of dedicated video memory for under $800.

[opinioncircle]

I wouldn't buy one of the MacBook "Pro" over the unibody system I have now.

As I posted in another thread, I spent a good amount of time playing with the new "Pros" and I'm very unimpressed, considering all the noise thats being made about the new screens. I have one of the original LG screens and, in comparison to the new 13.3" and 15.4" systems I played with, the "upgrade" is being greatly exaggerated. When properly calibrated, the screens look almost exactly the same minus the exception that the new one has the color saturation turned up ever so slightly.

As for the other features..

Firewire? Why? If you're going to redesign the motherboard for new ports, let's take that extra space that Firewire now occupies, take out the mini-DisplayPort, and put in HDMI! Give one regular USB port and one combined USB/eSATA.

Also, why only SD? And is Apple going to be like other PC manufacturers and release a nice flow of firmware updates to keep up with revised SDHC cards and increase compatibility with the higher capacity cards? I doubt it, because we all know how Apple HATES to give away free "new features".

Integrated battery? No thank you. Sure it lasts a tiny bit longer in real world. But I don't want to be tied into taking the system into Apple or sending it away for a replacement. Plus being able to swap out batteries gives me more overall battery life. Look at my HP for instance. With 2 batteries I can push 10 hours of battery life, and thats WITH dedicated graphics and a 15.4" CCFL backlit screen, as well as the older generation Core 2 Duo and more energy hungry DDR2 RAM.

Overall, the new MacBook "Pro" is a big overall downgrade. I also can't help but laugh at the fact that only Apple could get away with selling a $1700 15.4" system with integrated graphics. Do you know how cheap a PC with the same specs as the entry MacBook Pro goes for? About $1,000 less. And good luck finding a 15.4" PC that ships with ONLY 256MB of dedicated video memory for under $800.

May have a point, but the decrease in price makes the lineup a pretty sweet deal if you ask me...

[torbjoern]

May have a point, but the decrease in price makes the lineup a pretty sweet deal if you ask me...

Acer Aspire notebooks are cheap, too.

[Bengt77]

Acer Aspire notebooks are cheap, too.
And so are french fries.

[chrislaw]

And so are french fries.

mmmm french fries <drool>

[veterator]

Do you want cheap, or do you something that works? My Macs seldom have problems while my HP notebook is constantly requiring attention.

[n20nine]

I wouldn't buy one of the MacBook "Pro" over the unibody system I have now.

As I posted in another thread, I spent a good amount of time playing with the new "Pros" and I'm very unimpressed, considering all the noise thats being made about the new screens. I have one of the original LG screens and, in comparison to the new 13.3" and 15.4" systems I played with, the "upgrade" is being greatly exaggerated. When properly calibrated, the screens look almost exactly the same minus the exception that the new one has the color saturation turned up ever so slightly.

As for the other features..

Firewire? Why? If you're going to redesign the motherboard for new ports, let's take that extra space that Firewire now occupies, take out the mini-DisplayPort, and put in HDMI! Give one regular USB port and one combined USB/eSATA.

Also, why only SD? And is Apple going to be like other PC manufacturers and release a nice flow of firmware updates to keep up with revised SDHC cards and increase compatibility with the higher capacity cards? I doubt it, because we all know how Apple HATES to give away free "new features".


I was wanting to get the new MBP after I sold my current 2.0GHz aluminium macbook. Yesterday, a mate of mine bought the new 13" MBP. I was so eager to check out the screen.

You know what? There isnt soo much difference, but thats because I have a good calibration profile. Of course, the viewing angles are better and colors look marginally nicer. You would be hard pressed to really notice a difference that is significant. Even he told me it looks similar.

As for firewire, i agree that i would have preferred something else. Wished there was HDMI.

About the SD card slot, if i am not mistaken, it is SDHC capable from a video review i watched.

I did notice however that the keyboard texture is different from the previous aluminium macbooks. Its a bit rough now, but is less prone to sweat marks. Also, the trackpad is a bit quieter.

So, I decided to keep my current aluminium macbook and probably in 2.5-3 years time get the latest 13" MBP. My current machine fits my needs well, I just wished it had the backlit keys. Those are amazing.

Also, I dont wanna sell my current laptop for a loss and buy the new ones. You cant keep up with technology and if you keep doing so, you will lose money.

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Acer Aspire notebooks are cheap, too.

Sure, but I was saying in regard to using OSX. You can always find cheaper if we follow your logic...