I own a Macbook and I could not be more unhappy with it.

[Steven Paul Job]

I thought it was what I wanted. I love the iPod and stuff (hence the username...I think Steve is so sexy! hehe).

I've had it for four months now. It was a late Christmas gift.
The thing is terrible. I'm used to the functionality and user-friendly interface of Windows and messing with that OSX junk just makes it hard to get anything done.
I wanted to play some games on my new computer and found out...they don't make any games for these things. wtf right?
So then I get told I can install Windows on it if I wanted to. So, despite the fact that this makes no sense to me (why did my parents pay all that money for this thing if I'm going to buy and install Windows anyway?), but I did it. So I can play games...but only when I boot out of the other OS. Too bad its like the default...anymore I just ALWAYS boot into windows.

So then I think my new computer needs more RAM because it doesn't play games from like four years ago that my three year-old WINDOWS desktop handles just fine....WHY DOES APPLE OVERCHARGE SO MUCH FOR RAM?

Anyway, to pile on my feeling of being ripped off with this thing, I did some research and searching and I found a laptop on a site called "newegg" that had great reviews, even better stats than my Macbook and it was like $400 cheaper!

Ugh...anyone else feel this way?

[Quillz]

Well, the MacBook isn't perfect. Nothing is. Too bad it didn't work out for you.

[mr.stinki]

So basically you're hating on it because it's not windows?

[bartelby]

Hold down the Alt (Option) key during bootup. You should be able to select the start up volume from there.

You're just used to Windows. You need to take the time and learn how to use OS X.
I've never owned a Windows based computer, only Mac OS ones. In work I find it tedious to use Windows because I don't know enough about it.

[Cassie]

Apple does indeed overcharge for RAM. Never buy that from them.

I think you're expecting OS X to function like Windows does. It doesn't. You have to find new ways to do things. Sometimes, it's easier. Sometimes it isn't. There's tradeoffs both ways.

There is a small selection of games for Mac, but that's not what they were made for. Everyone here will agree, if you're truly a gamer, Windows is the better option.

[gibbz]

Many here would debate what you call "OSX junk". Maybe it is junk because you aren't used to it or know what you are doing?

Macs have never been known as a gaming platform. Don't know what to tell you there.

Apple doesn't gouge for RAM anymore on their MacBooks. Prices are on par with places like Crucial. That is just an uninformed comment.

[nuckinfutz]

Nope

You've be brainwashed into thinking that a fcked up UI is how computing should be.

You've been brainwashed into thinking **** like Genuine DisAdvantage is acceptable.

You've been brainwashed to think that paying the Anti-Virus tax will keep your computer safe.

Gaming is easy

Playstation or Xbox

Computing is easy

Macintosh.

[Steven Paul Job]

But what about when I want to play games on my computer?

I don't have enough money for an xbox or playstation because my parents spent all their money on that macbook thing i hardly ever use anymore.

[jsw]

I have no issues with people not liking Apple products, but, to be honest, the OP comes across as a bit trollish. Let's see how the OP's next few posts turn out before spending too much time replying here, yeah?

[Quillz]

But what about when I want to play games on my computer?

I don't have enough money for an xbox or playstation because my parents spent all their money on that macbook thing i hardly ever use anymore.
Then I guess you'll have to stop playing games.

[LCRadical]

one could argue you should have made an educated purchase by researching your needs before running out and buying a laptop you didnt need

[nuckinfutz]

But what about when I want to play games on my computer?

I don't have enough money for an xbox or playstation because my parents spent all their money on that macbook thing i hardly ever use anymore.

Hang tight SP.

Bootcamp is going to get a lot better with Snow Leopard. You just got a couple of months to wait. Then U can get ur game on.

Switching to Macs isn't easy. You get used to one way of doing things and then you have to learn another. We'll take you under our wing and get ur Mac cherry popped.

[Quillz]

Switching to Macs isn't easy. You get used to one way of doing things and then you have to learn another. We'll take you under our wing and get ur Mac cherry popped.
That's pretty gross, actually.

[Steven Paul Job]

Then I guess you'll have to stop playing games.

This is what I was afraid of. Buying that Macbook has ruined all that potential fun for me.

I get why some of you guys like them...I mean, if all you're doing is hopping around the internet and typing up thesis statements it works just fine but they aren't for REAL computer users in my opinion.

[Quillz]

This is what I was afraid of. Buying that Macbook has ruined all that potential fun for me.

I get why some of you guys like them...I mean, if all you're doing is hopping around the internet and typing up thesis statements it works just fine but they aren't for REAL computer users in my opinion.
Like the other guy said, just hang tight. Because one day you can pop your MacBook's cherry and a world of fun-filled adventure will be unlocked for you.

And you have a tight-knit community that will support you all the way.

[TeeRav1]

I am sorry that you feel this way. I have had my first MacBook for 4 days now and I absolutely love it. I can't believe how easy it is to use and how quickly I am able to get things done. I understand your complaints about the gaming, but that is not what the MacBook is designed to do, and personally I have a 360 for that. The MacBook makes everyday tasks so much easier and it just makes sense when I use it. It has me thinking "Why doesn't Windows do something like that?" all the time. So I am sorry that you haven't had a good experience in 4 months, but if you haven't figured out how to use OS X in that amount of time, I dont think you ever will.

[Burnsey]

I thought it was what I wanted. I love the iPod and stuff (hence the username...I think Steve is so sexy! hehe).

I've had it for four months now. It was a late Christmas gift.
The thing is terrible. I'm used to the functionality and user-friendly interface of Windows and messing with that OSX junk just makes it hard to get anything done.
I wanted to play some games on my new computer and found out...they don't make any games for these things. wtf right?
So then I get told I can install Windows on it if I wanted to. So, despite the fact that this makes no sense to me (why did my parents pay all that money for this thing if I'm going to buy and install Windows anyway?), but I did it. So I can play games...but only when I boot out of the other OS. Too bad its like the default...anymore I just ALWAYS boot into windows.

So then I think my new computer needs more RAM because it doesn't play games from like four years ago that my three year-old WINDOWS desktop handles just fine....WHY DOES APPLE OVERCHARGE SO MUCH FOR RAM?

Anyway, to pile on my feeling of being ripped off with this thing, I did some research and searching and I found a laptop on a site called "newegg" that had great reviews, even better stats than my Macbook and it was like $400 cheaper!

Ugh...anyone else feel this way?

You bought a Macbook to game? LOL

[MacBook.Matt]

dude...are you kidding me?

I've owned my aluminum macbook for some time now as well, and I love it to death. Have you not noticed that yours is made of aluminum while everyone else's is ****** plastic? Have you not noticed the money you save not having to purchase anti virus software? Have you not noticed how ****ing gorgeous a computer you have?

You also need to learn to be smarter with your money...buying a MacBook for gaming was a terrible idea, and paying for windows when the win7 beta is free was also not a good idea.

If you really want a ****** windows laptop, I'll take that MacBook off your hands for $500 :D

[Nager]

lol you are just some 14 year old kid who's parents bought a laptop for and you whine and complain because it can't play games... learn to do some research before you buy something and stop flaunting your ignorance. People need to refrain from making stupid posts with no thought.

[kindablue09]

This is what I was afraid of. Buying that Macbook has ruined all that potential fun for me.

I get why some of you guys like them...I mean, if all you're doing is hopping around the internet and typing up thesis statements it works just fine but they aren't for REAL computer users in my opinion.

And here emerges the troll...

Sorry you had to find out about macs and games the hard way, but yep thats the way it is. Since ~90% of the market is PC it wouldn't be a financially savvy option for game makers to focus on the mac platform. However some of the more popular games emerge for folks like me :)

But you got a mac w/o ever trying out the UI? Why??? Since I am assuming you are young...
1. test drive your first car
2. visit colleges before you decide to go there
3. don't insult OS X on mac rumors, all you'll end up doing is stepping on feet :P

[zephead]

I saw this statement on another thread last week or something. It was really good, and it went something like...

You have to remember, XP probably runs better on your ~2GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook with 1-2GB of RAM because it's an 8-year-old OS that was made when a computer with an 800MHz Pentium III and 128MB RAM was hot stuff.

[Sayer]

Wow I haven't heard anyone say Windows XP was user-friendly in a long time. LOL, thanks for the laugh.

[Quillz]

Wow I haven't heard anyone say Windows XP was user-friendly in a long time. LOL, thanks for the laugh.
I like how if you don't find something user-friendly, then it must not be user-friendly for anyone else on the planet.

I like how it's your way or the highway, apparently. Thanks for the laugh.

[Cassie]

I think the OP needs to understand that there is a learning curve. Most people can't just hop from Windows to OS X and be a pro at it without making an effort to learn it.

[panzaman]

guys...please ignore that Steven Paul Jobs post, is obviously a windows user trying to create havoc and flames in this forum.

[Chase R]

I like how if you don't find something user-friendly, then it must not be user-friendly for anyone else on the planet.

I like how it's your way or the highway, apparently. Thanks for the laugh.

Lol, your on crack if you think that XP is more user friendly than OS X... I don't care who you are, XP feels like the stone-age compared to OS X.

Thanks for the laugh. :)

[winninganthem]

OP:
I understand your point that if you want to play games and save money on a laptop, a Macbook is probably a bad choice.

However, I disagree with you when you say that
they aren't for REAL computer users in my opinion.

What kinds of things do 'real' computer users do? I mean, I think that homework assignments and whatnot count as real computer work. If you disagree, then OSX is also pretty much the OS of choice for a lot of people who work in professional graphics design and video production.

The only thing you've really mentioned is games, and to me it just seems like you're generalizing too much.

I think it's perfectly fine that you don't like Macs, but I also think that it's not right for you to say that anyone who uses a Mac isn't a 'real' computer user.

[pellets007]

they aren't for REAL computer users in my opinion.And I don't think that you should play games on a computer. :rolleyes: They are real computers, just like any other computer running a Windows platform. It's got different software that may or may not be more efficient to the end user. I find easier and that is why I am typing this on a Macintosh.

[torbjoern]

What is user-friendliness actually? The way I see it, it's about to what extent the software (be it an application or OS) actually lets the user get the work done, allowing the user to have a good work-flow. Without too many annoying pop-ups and attention-hijackers from the mandatory arsenal of built-in crapware you find in any PC with Windows pre-installed.

In this sense, Linux may be as user-friendly as OS X, but in its own terms for those who are familiar with it. I'm not necessarily referring to the command-line interface (though it usually provides far more informative feedback than any GUI can do), but e.g. the desktop-cube for those who run the K Desktop Environment (Linux has many GUIs).

User-friendliness is not to be confused with newbie-friendliness. Before I started using Windows in 1992/93, I was quite comfortable with the DOS interface and it felt awkward at first to move a pointer around on the screen, clicking the icons. However, Windows was newbie-friendly enough to get me into it within a day. But was it user-friendly? Did it help me get my work done? I feel it's working against me. Even Linux is better than Windows this way, and the way I see it, the steep learning curve of Linux is outweighed by its user-friendliness.

So - Steven Paul Job - I recommend you try out Linux first (either Ubuntu, Mint or Mandriva), and then by using only Linux for 2-4 weeks. After un-learning all your Windows-habits, OSX will work like a dream for you.

[instaxgirl]

one could argue you should have made an educated purchase by researching your needs before running out and buying a laptop you didnt need

My thoughts ^ OP if you really can't get used to it then macs have a high resell value.

[åidån]

A month of OS X use now, and it's almost painful going back to Windows. That's not in anyway saying I don't still have bad Windows habits, but it's just so counter productive.

OP, I think you are shunning what is truly a brilliant platform because it doesn't play games, c'mon! Gamer's are not REAL computer users, that's pissing around. Whilst they are a real use for a computer, there are much better things you could be doing, and for doing those, it's OS X. Sure, have boot camp for your games, but read some articles on switching like I did, TUAW's Mac 101 is quite good.

Once you've got OS X into you for "real" computer work, well, I don't think you can go back :apple:

[clyde2801]

Your local apple store should offer some classes on mac basics. Maybe you could spend some free time next weekend there.

[Buskape]

My dad always told me when i was younger: "PC does not stand for Play Computer, but PERSONAL Computer."

Computers were never really designed for gaming, it came later for entertainment purposes.

Anyway the MacBooks with 9400m are fine for light gaming, sims 3, spore, gta iv, call of duty, everything works fine, i don't see your point, because you can even hook up your unibody macbook to your 50" Sony High Definition TV and play in 1920x1080. Isn't that great?

But you should have researched a bit more, you would have learned that for gaming you need a 15" MacBook Pro.

[mathieuheartmac]

You can't call OSX bad just because you are used to Windows and obviously aren't quick enough to learn a better operating system. Many windows users switch all the time and pick it up very quickly - and LOVE it.

Also...my macbook does REAL computing all the time- and much faster than my sister's HP laptop which has "better" specs.

You also sound very ungrateful. If my parents bought me a brand new macbook I would be so happy and grateful. I would not piss and moan about having to learn OSX- I would learn it with a huge smile on my face.

Sell or give your macbook to someone more deserving.

[BlackMax]

I thought it was what I wanted. I love the iPod and stuff (hence the username...I think Steve is so sexy! hehe).

Why did you think it was what you wanted? Did you research the MacBook before (I'm assuming here) you asked parents to purchase it for you?

I'm used to the functionality and user-friendly interface of Windows and messing with that OSX junk just makes it hard to get anything done.

This is not really an issue with your MacBook, but rather you're more comfortable using Windows because it is all you've ever used. Once you learn to use OS X you will begin to realize its eloquent beauty.

I wanted to play some games on my new computer and found out...they don't make any games for these things. wtf right?

There are games made for OS X, but definitely not as many as are made for Windows. Again, did you do your research before purchasing? If gaming was one of your priorities you would have purchased a MBP or an iMac. Although you can play games on the MB (and I do on mine) it is by no means considered a gaming machine.


So then I get told I can install Windows on it if I wanted to. So, despite the fact that this makes no sense to me (why did my parents pay all that money for this thing if I'm going to buy and install Windows anyway?), but I did it. So I can play games...but only when I boot out of the other OS. Too bad its like the default...anymore I just ALWAYS boot into windows.

Again... You didn't take your requirements into consideration before you made your purchase. This is not the MacBook or OS X's fault.


So then I think my new computer needs more RAM because it doesn't play games from like four years ago that my three year-old WINDOWS desktop handles just fine....WHY DOES APPLE OVERCHARGE SO MUCH FOR RAM?

Again, the MacBook is not a "gaming" machine and most folks do not purchase RAM from Apple when there are so many other better deals available for RAM. I find this entire statement suspect as you mention below you've been on NEWEGG and have probably perused the better prices on RAM there.


Anyway, to pile on my feeling of being ripped off with this thing, I did some research and searching and I found a laptop on a site called "newegg" that had great reviews, even better stats than my Macbook and it was like $400 cheaper!

I'll close with the following point. You put the cart before the horse by purchasing a notebook and THEN doing the "research and searching" for a notebook that fits your needs and meets your requirements. You should have done this first.

One solution is to sell your MacBook and purchase the notebook you found on NEWEGG. MacBooks retain their value well and you should be able to get enough for it to purchase the machine you want. Fall on your sword and tell your folks you didn't properly research the MacBook before they purchased it, but you will resolve it. No harm, no foul. ;)

[darngooddesign]

This is what I was afraid of. Buying that Macbook has ruined all that potential fun for me.

I get why some of you guys like them...I mean, if all you're doing is hopping around the internet and typing up thesis statements it works just fine but they aren't for REAL computer users in my opinion.

I'm guessing they bought it because you nagged them into it. Should have done your research first.

Games do not equal real computer use, but if that's what you want you should have nagged your parents into buying a XP laptop for, um, real use.

[5DollaFootlong]

i learned how to use a mac in a week after i got mine july last year. the whole point of a mac is that it just works.

[jsw]

My goodness. Are we still feeding him? :D

Seriously?

Three posts, all with pulled-from-the-playbook taunts, and we're still assuming he's some wayward teen who sadly had a MacBook thrust into his hands as a sort of accidental late Xmas gift and who is now just can't seem to like it even after installing Windows?

Come on.

[nefan65]

Yes, please stop feeding the troll...

Do we really believe that a teen does "Real computing" after he states that his main issue with the MB is that he can't play games? Wow...

But, then again, that is the user base that Windows' is...LMAO...kids playing games...

[WannaApple?]

I'm still scratching my head on why ANYONE would consider any computer for gaming purposes only. Like others have said, thats what playstations and xboxes are for! That is their purpose. Computers main purpose is not for playing games and I can say with much confidence that "Real computer users" are not purchasing Macbooks for games either.

Whether OP can afford a gaming machine or not is irrelevant...you bought (or asked parents to buy you) a computer that you knew nothing about to play games on. You could have just asked for a PS or Xbox then! OP, you must be very young, but as you age, you will find that real computer users and GOOD computers like a Macbook are made solid and quality driven for their OS, UI and proper computer software of internet, email and document processing. I say sell your computer and get a PS or Xbox if all you want is to play games.

BTW....I dont find much learning curve to Mac OS at all. It took me maybe a few days just to learn where everything was, but most options and needs are essentially the same as a Windows machine.

and...if for some reason you are still keen on keeping your Macbook and just loading windows, look into Parallels or VM Fusion that allow you to go back and forth to windows for your needs without having to reboot. Windows will open just like an application.

[jsw]

We can stop feeding him. Troll status has been confirmed. Based on other info, it's exceedingly unlikely his story is even remotely true.