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zimv20
May 13, 2004, 12:51 PM
link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22403-2004May12.html?referrer=emailarticle)


80% in Iraq Distrust Occupation Authority
Results of Poll, Taken Before Prison Scandal Came to Light, Worry U.S. Officials

By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 13, 2004; Page A10

Four out of five Iraqis report holding a negative view of the U.S. occupation authority and of coalition forces, according to a new poll conducted for the occupation authority.

In the poll, 80 percent of the Iraqis questioned reported a lack of confidence in the Coalition Provisional Authority, and 82 percent said they disapprove of the U.S. and allied militaries in Iraq.

Although comparative numbers from previous polls are not available, "generally speaking, the trend is downward," said Donald Hamilton, a senior counselor to civilian administrator L. Paul Bremer. The occupation authority has been commissioning such surveys in Iraq since late last year, he said. This one was taken in Baghdad and several other Iraqi cities in late March and early April, shortly before the surge in anti-coalition violence and a few weeks before the detainee-abuse scandal became a major issue for the U.S. authorities in Iraq.

The new polling data, which have not been publicly released, are provoking concern among occupation authority officials and in Washington because they provide additional evidence that the U.S. effort in Iraq is not winning over Iraqi public opinion. The Bush administration and the U.S. military have said that the keys to the United States achieving its goals in Iraq are winning at least mild support from most Iraqis and creating Iraqi forces to provide security.

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skunk
May 13, 2004, 02:42 PM
link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22403-2004May12.html?referrer=emailarticle)
Hearts and minds, eh? That went well, then.

Thanatoast
May 13, 2004, 06:23 PM
So Bush is held more responsible for his misdirections in Iraq than in his own country? Neat. :(

skunk
May 13, 2004, 06:24 PM
So Bush is held more responsible for his misdirections in Iraq than in his own country? Neat. :(
Kind of ironic that we're trying to bring THEM democracy.

toontra
May 13, 2004, 06:38 PM
So Bush is held more responsible for his misdirections in Iraq than in his own country? Neat. :(

Do you remember "War of the Worlds" - it's a common virus which finishes off the invincible invaders!

Or Al Capone being finally convicted for tax avoidance.

I think it is often the case that the largest crimes go unpunished directly, but some seemingly smaller incident brings about the downfall of the tyrant. I see this in evidence over the past few days. Bush & Blair seemed to have gotten away with exaggerating the reasons for war, the lack of WMD, etc, and it is the smaller (proportionately, in my estimation) issue of the torture of prisoners that will prove their demise.

Mind you, I don't really care why they go, only when!

skunk
May 13, 2004, 06:47 PM
Mind you, I don't really care why they go, only when!
Amen to that. Looks like Blair's on his way out already...

IJ Reilly
May 14, 2004, 12:55 AM
Amen to that. Looks like Blair's on his way out already...

Does it really, or is this wishful thinking on your part?

blackfox
May 14, 2004, 02:08 AM
link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22403-2004May12.html?referrer=emailarticle)
Well, according to this:
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BCDC2B736-CBAF-4ABA-BAF4-103DD1FD4211%7D&siteid=google&dist=
61% of Americans feel that way...

skunk
May 14, 2004, 03:39 AM
Does it really, or is this wishful thinking on your part?
He is looking pretty shaky. If Brown takes over, I think GW would be in for a rough ride. Of course, THAT might be wishful thinking, but I think Brown's got the political capital in hand to be able to do it. Without the UK, the US would be shafted over there.
Like the Brits suggested, Abu Ghraib should have been blown up immediately Baghdad was secured.

blackfox
May 14, 2004, 03:42 AM
Without the UK, the US would be shafted over there.
As we all well know, we are quite capable of that already...

skunk
May 14, 2004, 03:45 AM
As we all well know, we are quite capable of that already...
Well, yes. ;)