iPhone Launch Party: Upcoming Apps, and New Id Game for iPhone

[MacRumors]

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MacHeist (http://macheist.com/) and TouchArcade (http://toucharcade.com) are co-hosting an iPhone app launch party (http://iphonelaunchparty.com/) at this year's WWDC. The event to be held tonight will provide some demos and previews of some upcoming iPhone apps and games and will be streamed live starting at around 9:30 p.m. Pacific.

Some of iPhone apps to be demoed include: Delicious Library (http://www.delicious-monster.com/) for iPhone, Real Racing (http://www.firemint.com/realracing/index.html), a new Freeverse (http://freeverse.com/) game as well as the just announced Doom Resurrection from id software (http://www.idsoftware.com/) and Escalation Studios (http://www.escalationstudios.com/). The game uses existing assets from Doom 3 but applies them to an entirely new iPhone game with brand new levels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KoU_z9MOM

The Live stream should kick in around 9:30 p.m. and will be linked from the website (http://iphonelaunchparty.com/).


Article Link: iPhone Launch Party: Upcoming Apps, and New Id Game for iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/10/iphone-launch-party-upcoming-apps-and-new-id-game-for-iphone/)

[Howardchief]

I wanted Doom I and Doom II :(

[The General]

^ Agreed. I would have preferred a port of Ultimate Doom and Doom II, but I guess this will do.

EDIT: Oh, I guess Doom Classic is on its way as well!
http://www.idsoftware.com/iphone-doom-classic-progress/

[Howardchief]

^ Agreed. I would have preferred a port of Ultimate Doom and Doom II, but I guess this will do.

Did you also get Wolf 3D? I got it when it first came out and it was fantastic! Then I did an update for it and they changed the weapons.. :( id software is making me a little mad.

[MDMac]

This. looks. awesome! A question for any of you experts out there: What is it going to take to get some decent lighting in games designed for the iPod/iPhone?

Good lighting really helps to set the atmosphere for games like Doom... or any game for that matter. I wonder if the new 3Gs hardware can handle some complex lighting effects... hmm.

[cualexander]

I wonder if Doom Resurrection will use Open GL 2.0, thereby leaving iPhone 3g users in the dark.... hmm... that would be an interesting turn of events

[The General]

Did you also get Wolf 3D? I got it when it first came out and it was fantastic! Then I did an update for it and they changed the weapons.. :( id software is making me a little mad.

Yeah, I know. There was no reason to update the weapons ... but this Doom Classic port is going to be great.

To my surprise, Christian was able to dig up the original high quality source material for the Doom sounds, so we have 22khz 16 bit sound effects instead of the 11khz 8 bit ones from the original game.

And GPU accelerated filtering, 24-bit lightning.

[Razeus]

I wanted Doom I and Doom II :(

...jesus christ

the very first post is someone whining.

[Howardchief]

Yeah, I know. There was no reason to update the weapons ... but this Doom Classic port is going to be great.

I mean.. I'll play it, but I don't think it should be called Doom Classic anything :p

[apfhex]

An all new DOOM game in addition to the Classic DOOM which was already on its way? Pretty cool. :D

[dgcaste]

This. looks. awesome! A question for any of you experts out there: What is it going to take to get some decent lighting in games designed for the iPod/iPhone?

Good lighting really helps to set the atmosphere for games like Doom... or any game for that matter. I wonder if the new 3Gs hardware can handle some complex lighting effects... hmm.

The 3GS hardware falls sort of in the average PC hardware that was released in between Doom 2 and Doom 3 releases, a bit closer to the 3 than the 2. Doom 3 required 1.5 GHz CPU, 384 MB RAM, and a DirectX 9.0b compatible 64 MB video card with OpenGL 2.0 drivers.

I wonder if Doom Resurrection will use Open GL 2.0, thereby leaving iPhone 3g users in the dark.... hmm... that would be an interesting turn of events

Why would they do that? So nobody buys the game? Just to get a couple of pieces of extra eye candy in there?

All in all, one day, the iPhone will support 3.0 or something similar to those standards. The App Store will have to account for this, and future, upgrades. Like other games, there will be a need of minimum hardware requirements. They'll just be a lot simpler to follow than Vista-capable stickers and Minimum/Recommended listings.

[dgcaste]

...jesus christ

the very first post is someone whining.

And the seventh post is someone trolling. Lucky number seven!

Judging from your posting history, you like to call people whiners a lot. Does that make you feel good about yourself? You're a better and stronger man than all of us, no doubt about that!

[Eduardo1971]

...jesus christ

the very first post is someone whining.

Quit your whining!;)

[murphoia]

This looks incredible. Can't wait.

[tgildred]

sweet zombie jesus.... as if I needed another reason to get an iPhone. Frig.

[TheFuzz]

anyone know the song in that trailer? it sounds like some god-awful tool ripoff.

[Howardchief]

...jesus christ

the very first post is someone whining.

What's your point?

[dgcaste]

Let's not feed the troll my friends! I'm the first to blame. Let him scurry off after his stupid ring and let him go to whichever cave he likes to dwell in.

[Howardchief]

sweet zombie jesus.... as if I needed another reason to get an iPhone. Frig.

ROFL my favorite Professor quote.

[dgcaste]

sweet zombie jesus.... as if I needed another reason to get an iPhone. Frig.

If you hang out in these forums, you're pretty much either required to own one or live in pain forever for not doing so! :)

[DiamondMac]

What's your point?

That it is pathetic most of the time

[MacAndy74]

This looks incredible. Can't wait.

:eek: me too! Maybe Duke Nukem could be ported to iPhone too. So want!

[Roy Hobbs]

A Delicious Library app would be very cool!

[Howardchief]

:eek: me too! Maybe Duke Nukem could be ported to iPhone too. So want!

:eek:

Commander Keen anyone?

[gatepc]

Does anyone else think that in a couple years from now apple will unintentionally be competing with PSP/DS I mean these little devices are getting more and more powerful all the time!

[DHarrisDBS34]

Anything on price yet?

[Rat-Boy]

I suppose this will be a 3GS only app?

[HiRez]

When does this come out on Palm Pre? Ahhh....ohh right...WebOS...

[HiRez]

I suppose this will be a 3GS only app?I assume it will support the older phones as the 3G S installed base will be quite small by comparison for a while (most people who want to upgrade have to wait for their contracts to "mature", for one thing). So it wouldn't make good financial sense for it to be 3G S only, it'll probably just run at a slower frame rate and with not quite as fancy effects on the older models.

[igazza]

i hate games that use the accelerometer :rolleyes:

[Schtumple]

:eek: me too! Maybe Duke Nukem could be ported to iPhone too. So want!

I think it's in the works, the release date is around 2021.... or about 12 years from now :p

[The General]

i hate games that use the accelerometer :rolleyes:

And what makes you think it uses the accelerometer?

[absolution]

anyone know the song in that trailer? it sounds like some god-awful tool ripoff.

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. It's a knock-off of "Lateralus" by Tool.

[dalingrin]

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. It's a knock-off of "Lateralus" by Tool.

I believe that song is from the original Doom 3 soundtrack.
Definitely a Tool sound-alike

[The General]

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. It's a knock-off of "Lateralus" by Tool.

Nine Inch Nails' former drummer, Chris Vrenna, composed and performed the game's theme song.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_3

It is the same chord progressing and a very similar rhythm to Lateralus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlC7oG_2W4

[wildcardd]

And what makes you think it uses the accelerometer?

It was quoted in the Macworld article.

Here:
http://www.macworld.com/article/141094/2009/06/doomresurrection.html?lsrc=rss_news

[starflyer]

Will the Delicious Library app use the camera as a bar scanner same as the desktop version of the app?

[The General]

It was quoted in the Macworld article.

Here:
http://www.macworld.com/article/141094/2009/06/doomresurrection.html?lsrc=rss_news

Guh. It's going to be unplayable.

[thedarkhorse]

I haven't found a 3d iphone game that I can stand longer than 5 minutes and this doesn't look like it changes a thing. I don't know it just doesn't work for me as a gaming device, it's like the next step after online flash games.

[wildcardd]

I am wondering if it is a shooter on rails.

[hefeglass]

i just want worms to come out already...theyve been talking about it forever.

[Eddyisgreat]

Is it just me or is the live stream a little..dry?

[Peace]

It's nada. LOL

[iMaggot]

Dude Doom 3 ?, hell yeah :D

[Eddyisgreat]

Finally up.


Ironically, Lydia is relatively hot :D

[The General]

Finally up.


Ironically, Lydia is relatively hot :D

Agreed.

Too bad the audio sucks. At first it was too loud and distorted, now it's phasing up and down quickly and on average too quiet.

[Eric5h5]

A question for any of you experts out there: What is it going to take to get some decent lighting in games designed for the iPod/iPhone?

This (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=310897051&mt=8) has what I consider decent lighting. However, it's computed once at the start of the game and doesn't change until a new game is started. It's possible to have realtime dynamic lighting, and some games do, but it takes CPU power that is often better spent on other things. The iPhone 3GS shouldn't have any problems with it though.

--Eric

[Riemann Zeta]

Looks like the Quake III engine with low-resolution textures. I'm not sure how the controls will work, but the demo video was pretty...has some kick ass potential. I can't imagine that they would limit it to iPhone 3GS models. I think developers will have to start coding two separate versions of graphical applications--one with old fixed-function OpenGL 1.1 calls and crappy textures, the other with shader-only code (OpenGL 2) and multitexturing.

Edit: oh, apparently it is not even built for OS 3.0.

[The General]

That Plasma app they just demoed is pretty lame. It looks nothing like a real plasma sphere and behaves nothing like a real plasma sphere... I'm pretty disappointed. :(

[AET10]

WOW! An app of one of those electric balls that you can push around the screen. *Yawn*

The real show is in the background crowd. Give a bunch of nerds that hardly see the light of day some free champagne and they turn into a mob of lurking creepers.

[MrSmith]

Good lighting really helps to set the atmosphere for games like Doom...
And what kind of atmos would wanton genocide require? :D

[Eddyisgreat]

The chick who demoed delicious library probably hadn't used the app before tonight. All she basically said was "lol we compiled this on the way here and...welp...it just lists the junk u already have. kthxbai."

[brownbird]

Tool should probably sue for such a blatant rip-off of their song.

[inkswamp]

I assume it will support the older phones as the 3G S installed base will be quite small by comparison for a while (most people who want to upgrade have to wait for their contracts to "mature", for one thing). So it wouldn't make good financial sense for it to be 3G S only, it'll probably just run at a slower frame rate and with not quite as fancy effects on the older models.

Hey, what do you think you're doing bringing logic into this discussion? ;)

And since you did the logic thing, I'll do the research thing and cite a source (http://www.macworld.com/article/141094/2009/06/doomresurrection.html?lsrc=rss_news) to back you up.

Carmack said the project will run on iPhones and iPod touches running on iPhone OS 2.x; the company plans an update in the future that will exploit some iPhone OS 3.x features, as well.

[The General]

Tool should probably sue for such a blatant rip-off of their song.

We went over this in 2004 when Doom 3 first came out. No one cares.

However, it's quite entertaining. http://doomtool.ytmnd.com/

The entire Doom franchise has anyways had ripped-off music.

[Doctor Q]

The iSamurai video made me nervous. Those guys were swinging their phones awfully close to each other! :eek:

[MarkMS]

Hell yeah to id Software for bringing back both Doom Classic and Doom Resurrection.

[Jayomat]

i wonder how the aiming works...:confused: pointing on you enemy with your fingertips would be awfull....

[winterspan]

All you gamers out there --- just wait another 3-4 months until a major developer creates a new game from the ground up with OpenGL ES 2.0 and the new hardware in mind! It will be awesome..

And the people who worry that the new hardware bifurcates the market:

1) Game developers are used to creating gaming engines that dynamically scale lighting, texture, and polygon count for different performance profiles..

2) Most importantly, you have to remember that previous to the iPhone, the only way to make any money in mobile phone gaming was by supporting a dozen platforms running on 100 different devices --- all with varying hardware!


Having to maintain titles on two different sets of iPhone hardware is nothing! But because using the full set of OpenGL 2.0 capabilities requires a lot of work that doesn't apply to the OpenGL 1.0 version, so don't expect to see that type of work in $2 games.

[ikir]

And the seventh post is someone trolling. Lucky number seven!

Judging from your posting history, you like to call people whiners a lot. Does that make you feel good about yourself? You're a better and stronger man than all of us, no doubt about that!

He is right, people always whine. This app indeed is impressive.

[210]

Can't wait for the Delicious Library app! Do you think this will be a free app? They have taken ages to release this!

[sunfast]

Just read Carmack's development notes for Doom Classic - wireless multiplayer Doom between iPhones sounds awesome :)

[DELLsFan]

I believe that song is from the original Doom 3 soundtrack.
Definitely a Tool sound-alike

Considering Doom's age, one could say Tool was a Doom sound-alike. :p

[Compile 'em all]

Can't wait for the Delicious Library app! Do you think this will be a free app? They have taken ages to release this!

It is already out (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=318472053&mt=8), and it is free.

[twoodcc]

i'm looking forward to doom!

[Schizoid]

i wonder how the aiming works...:confused: pointing on you enemy with your fingertips would be awfull....

That's the biggest problem with iPhone games, smearing your finger around the screen to try and play them...

Do games designers realize that having your hand in the way of the screen can detract from the gameplay somewhat!

Wolfenstein wasn't bad, we had a little virtua-pad thing... maybe the camera can look at your fingers and see which way they're pointing!
possibly...

[jasphair]

Is it just me, or does that game look hard as **** to control? The aim cursor is pretty much flying all over the screen throughout the whole demo, rarely coming over an enemy.

Anyone think a Quake III port will come? I know someone ported it to PocketPC a while ago. I tried it out on my Palm Treo. If they can do something Doom 3-esque, they can certainly to Quake III, RTCW, UT99 (GOTY)... the list goes on. :D

Half-Life 2, anyone? :D

[Dagless]

That looks pretty good actually. Something about it looks a little off and I can't put my finger on what, and I'm not happy with the iphone as a gaming platform since my fingers get in the way of whats happening onscreen. Meh.
I hope they port this to the DS.

[shiseiryu1]

I believe that song is from the original Doom 3 soundtrack.
Definitely a Tool sound-alike

Speaking of Soundtracks...I think Quake 1 has the best soundtrack of all the ID games...Nine Inch Nails did a great job on that game.

[ghostface147]

If anyone can push the iPhone to its limits, it's John Carmack. The initial release will be available to all three generations, with an update that is exclusive to the 3Gs soon after. Immediately after that, a percentage of the previous generation owners will complain about the update and how they can't run it.

[Baja2k]

Does anyone else think that in a couple years from now apple will unintentionally be competing with PSP/DS I mean these little devices are getting more and more powerful all the time!

I believe they are already competing. Both of my girls (5 and 7) are getting the latest touch as soon as it's released. They wanted DSs until I showed them the touch. Now they want the touch. It works for me because I already have all our Music and Movies in itunes. Were talking a library that is quickly approaching a TB of movies. We have also seen several Disney games released for the touch (including - Pixie Hollow) that my girls can not wait to play. If there was a Hannah Montana game it would be all over but the shouting. (but I haven't seen that one yet)

[The General]

If anyone can push the iPhone to its limits, it's John Carmack. The initial release will be available to all three generations, with an update that is exclusive to the 3Gs soon after. Immediately after that, a percentage of the previous generation owners will complain about the update and how they can't run it.

John Carmack isn't retarded. The game will obviously have different graphics and run on all three iPhones. It will just look and/or perform better on the 3G S.

[kajitox]

Man, it's kind of interesting to see modern games get their graphics torn down. Let's see if the game play is any good, though.

[sishaw]

Does anyone else think that in a couple years from now apple will unintentionally be competing with PSP/DS I mean these little devices are getting more and more powerful all the time!

Are you kidding, it's happening now.

[Patcoola]

it's nice the iphone has all these cool games,

but im still waiting for Office!

[MacVixen]

I believe they are already competing. Both of my girls (5 and 7) are getting the latest touch as soon as it's released. They wanted DSs until I showed them the touch. Now they want the touch. It works for me because I already have all our Music and Movies in itunes. Were talking a library that is quickly approaching a TB of movies. We have also seen several Disney games released for the touch (including - Pixie Hollow) that my girls can not wait to play. If there was a Hannah Montana game it would be all over but the shouting. (but I haven't seen that one yet)

I'm waiting for Apple to produce the kidsTouch or whatever they want to call it. My son is not even 4 yet and he's become an iPhone pro :p Don't need a phone, safari, stock aps etc, just a sturdy little touch device that I can download some games, add a few movies and or videos that he can easily access - I'd be all over that!

[sunfast]

Speaking of Soundtracks...I think Quake 1 has the best soundtrack of all the ID games...Nine Inch Nails did a great job on that game.

Quake had an awesome soundtrack, mainly because it played whatever CD you put in the drive ;)

[CubeHacker]

Consider Carmack said this just after the announcement of the 3GS:

So what did excite the veteran developer this week? "I'm personally more excited by the $99 iPhone announcement that the 3G S," he said. "I'd be happier seeing them sell 50 million of the base model than pushing the specs up."

I'm pretty sure he's going to be programming all iPhone games to work on the regular iPhone and iPhone 3G, and not take advantage of any special 3GS features. He seems to favor a larger user base than just focusing on the 3GS with more speed and better graphics.

[inkswamp]

it's nice the iphone has all these cool games,

but im still waiting for Office!

Meh. I've played Office before. The graphics sucked and the levels were really predictable. However, the big Clippy boss battle was enormously satisfying.

[Dagless]

Oh dear, Joystiq are reporting that this game is a rail shooter. Definite no buy now.