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Macisgr8
Jun 14, 2009, 12:04 PM
I'm thinking of making a custom coded app for my biz. I was wondering if there is a way of releasing it to our 20 employees without releasing it on the app store. Is that possible?
jessica.
Jun 14, 2009, 12:05 PM
Not unless you release it to cydia (jail break your phones).
Or ... I do believe you can release it to 20 people if you add their phones to your dev account or something like that.
dukebound85
Jun 14, 2009, 12:05 PM
I'm thinking of making a custom coded app for my biz. I was wondering if there is a way of releasing it to our 20 employees without releasing it on the app store. Is that possible?
i dont know but good point
you could always price it 10000000000 or so and use promo codes for your employees lol
Macisgr8
Jun 14, 2009, 12:49 PM
i dont know but good point
you could always price it 10000000000 or so and use promo codes for your employees lol
Will apple even alllow me to price it that high.
Kahnyl
Jun 14, 2009, 01:29 PM
I think if you become a dev for $100 you can install your apps on up to 100 phones without going near the AppStore.
Macisgr8
Jun 14, 2009, 01:44 PM
If I did other apps do they have to be the same 100 people. I want to also create a client app but have that available in the APP store. My problem is with the enterprise program it looks like it wont allow you to put it in the app store. I want both but realy dont want to fork over 400$.
jessica.
Jun 14, 2009, 05:35 PM
Okay I have to ask ...
If you are a) capable of programming apps for the iPhone so much so that you want to put it on your employee's phones (this suggests that you either supply said phones for them or they just all own one) b) capable of programming an app that may prove to be useful (the second app for your clients is seemingly useful but the first one looks company-specific) then why in the world would you not develop and put in the app store? Charge a fee and if people want to waste cash on an app that they probably don't understand or need then so be it. Give promo codes to your clients and employees but make some cash off those people that just insist on buying every freaking app around that appears to be useful.
I'm just saying that unless you know your app violates the SDK or TOS or whatever higher power Apple wants to hide behind, then you should just develop and submit.
Macisgr8
Jun 14, 2009, 10:29 PM
Okay I have to ask ...
If you are a) capable of programming apps for the iPhone so much so that you want to put it on your employee's phones (this suggests that you either supply said phones for them or they just all own one) b) capable of programming an app that may prove to be useful (the second app for your clients is seemingly useful but the first one looks company-specific) then why in the world would you not develop and put in the app store? Charge a fee and if people want to waste cash on an app that they probably don't understand or need then so be it. Give promo codes to your clients and employees but make some cash off those people that just insist on buying every freaking app around that appears to be useful.
I'm just saying that unless you know your app violates the SDK or TOS or whatever higher power Apple wants to hide behind, then you should just develop and submit.
App 1 would be an manual/calander/chat (livehelp) + combined server backend integration. (+ list all of the employees private information cell/adress ect I'm also thinking ticket administration. (enough to respond using canned msgs)
Obviously if I put this in the app store it could be used for abuse against our servers
The client app will be specific for our company products (deep integration that goes into software/servers) I'm not sure if Apple will allow it if only our customers would be able to take advantage of it. If they dont mind I'd love to have it in the app store (saves me on download costs :))
golden3159
Jun 15, 2009, 12:33 AM
Okay I have to ask ...
If you are a) capable of programming apps for the iPhone so much so that you want to put it on your employee's phones (this suggests that you either supply said phones for them or they just all own one) b) capable of programming an app that may prove to be useful (the second app for your clients is seemingly useful but the first one looks company-specific) then why in the world would you not develop and put in the app store? Charge a fee and if people want to waste cash on an app that they probably don't understand or need then so be it. Give promo codes to your clients and employees but make some cash off those people that just insist on buying every freaking app around that appears to be useful.
I'm just saying that unless you know your app violates the SDK or TOS or whatever higher power Apple wants to hide behind, then you should just develop and submit.
Did it ever occur to you he might want to make a program just for his business? You know, like his post says.
Common sense FTW.
Shoot
Jun 15, 2009, 04:16 AM
afaik apple are readying or already have made a corporate-specific store that is separate to the public store.
spillproof
Jun 15, 2009, 04:31 AM
I think if you become a dev for $100 you can install your apps on up to 100 phones without going near the AppStore.
This might possible work. But your app will always be in beta mode. I think Appe might have something against that.
Have you called Apple? According to their SDK page, you need an Enterprise account to keep your apps out of the public app store. So like you said already, you would need a Developers account also to have a public app. I would call Apple. Otherwise, just call the $400 an investment.
robbieduncan
Jun 15, 2009, 04:39 AM
You can use the officially supported ad-hoc distribution method which is hinted at above. This has a limit of 100 devices and is not like leaving your app in permanent beta. Apple promote this distribution method (http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/distribute.html) so will not "might have something against that".
Macisgr8
Jun 15, 2009, 08:01 AM
You can use the officially supported ad-hoc distribution method which is hinted at above. This has a limit of 100 devices and is not like leaving your app in permanent beta. Apple promote this distribution method (http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/distribute.html) so will not "might have something against that".
Thanks but if you look at apple website http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/apply.html
Enterprise doesn't have App store
and standard doesn't have in house .I et that I need the Enterprise but do I really need the Standard Program in addition to submit to app store.
Also where would be a good place to hire someone for development. I'm running short on time lately.
Buschmaster
Jun 15, 2009, 08:06 AM
Thanks but if you look at apple website http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/apply.html
Enterprise doesn't have App store
and standard doesn't have in house .I et that I need the Enterprise but do I really need the Standard Program in addition to submit to app store.
Also where would be a good place to hire someone for development. I'm running short on time lately.
I am a part of the standard program and we can distribute 100 copies of apps via ad hoc and we get 50 promo codes per version released on the app store.
So those are two routes to go.
robbieduncan
Jun 15, 2009, 08:32 AM
Enterprise doesn't have App store and standard doesn't have in house.
Yet both have Ad-Hoc, the method I was talking about. I suggest you improve your reading skills before you try exercising your programming ones.
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