Apple and AT&T Preparing for iPhone 3.0 Launch

[MacRumors]

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Apple and AT&T have been making preparations for the launch of iPhone firmware 3.0. Here is a compilation of the changes and preparations that have been noted:

- The new MobileMe Find My iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/10/more-wwdc-tidbits-iphone-3g-s-oleophobic-screen-find-my-iphone-live/) feature has been live this past week.
- Push Notification (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=720247) support is beginning to appear in the App Store. Tap Tap Revenge [App Store (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=305598228&mt=8)] specifically has been updated to provide push notifications.
- The iPhone 3G S Firmware 3.0 has already appeared (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=7813451&postcount=5) on Apple's servers. This firmware is specifically for the new iPhone 3G S (iPhone2,1) so is not recommended to be installed on older iPhones.
- AT&T has posted a FAQ (PDF) (http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/iPhone/Customers_FAQs.pdf) about the iPhone 3G S and comments on MMS and tethering:Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone 3G S and iPhone 3G.
- The iPhone 3.0 re-download charging message has been removed and was a bug (http://appadvice.com/appnn/2009/06/iphone-os-30-re-download-message-a-bug-says-apple/) according to AppAdvice. Re-downloading apps in 3.0 should be the same as the current firmware ( which means free).
- A couple of YouTube videos have appeared walking through the features of the new iPhone 3.0 operating system. Video 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR3ze8G8n94), Video 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1uYVTk-_WE).

The iPhone 3.0 firmware is officially launching on June 17th (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/08/iphone-os-3-0-launching-june-17th/).

Article Link: Apple and AT&T Preparing for iPhone 3.0 Launch (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/15/apple-and-atandt-preparing-for-iphone-3-0-launch/)

[Stampyhead]

I received a text message from O2 a few days ago stating that iPhone 3.0 would be available on the 17th. I guess that's their way of preparing for the launch!

[spillproof]

Thank -inset/don't insert your "higher power" here- that they are not charging extra for MMS.

[oyebto]

all right looking forward.

[jnc]

What's this? An American product release that doesn't shaft the European customers? :eek:

[Adrien24]

Funny how the firmware upgrade is all over the net already...

[robotica]

do you think we will see the firmware posted before the 17th via apples servers like they have for the 3GS?

would be nice to get 3.0 on my 3G today :D

edit - found it on PB

[Ori]

Damn it! for some reason I had June 15th for 3.0 and June 17th for 3GS.
Had my Macbook in office ready for upgrade too! Oh well 2 more days to go!

[darkpaw]

A page in MobileMe's help says: "After you delete all the information on your device, you won’t able to use Find My iPhone to locate your device on a map or send it a message."

That's common sense really, as you have to enable something on the phone to be able to find it. However, it's a warning that once you remote wipe your iPhone is essentially gone. Be very careful before you wipe it. Be sure you can't get it back.

[TheKrillr]

has anyone tried putting the 3G S firmware on their 3G?

[ericvmazzone]

Will this no extra charge be only for iPhone specific text plans or will it also include family text plans at no extra charge?

[lostinmysphere]

A page in MobileMe's help says: "After you delete all the information on your device, you won’t able to use Find My iPhone to locate your device on a map or send it a message."

That's common sense really, as you have to enable something on the phone to be able to find it. However, it's a warning that once you remote wipe your iPhone is essentially gone. Be very careful before you wipe it. Be sure you can't get it back.

Not quite right... You can restore the iPhone, if you find it again, from the last backup you did.

From:http://www.apple.com/uk/mobileme/whats-new/

If you eventually find your iPhone, you can restore your email, contacts and calendars by enabling your MobileMe account on your iPhone. Or connect your iPhone to your computer and use iTunes to restore the data from your most recent iPhone backup.

[DMann]

3.0 has been running smoothly on my 3G. Search is a great app launcher, cut-copy-paste is well implemented and very slick, and landscape keyboard in Mail & MMS makes typing much easier and speedier. Voice recorder records high quality sound, which is easy to trim, conveniently within the app, and the enhanced stock app offers great tools for comparing events. The extra app panel (page) accomodating 16 additional apps is also a welcome feature.

[amac4me]

Looking forward to the 17th for iPhone OS 3.0

[Warbrain]

has anyone tried putting the 3G S firmware on their 3G?

I doubt it will install.

[TheKrillr]

I doubt it will install.

im tempted to try it -- the biggest reason i want the 3G S is because of the video recording and voice control. If it will install, I'll be happy for a while.

[iphones4evry1]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/15/apple-and-atandt-preparing-for-iphone-3-0-launch/)

- The iPhone 3G S Firmware 3.0 has already appeared (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=7813451&postcount=5) on Apple's servers. This firmware is specifically for the new iPhone 3G S (iPhone2,1) so is not recommended to be installed on older iPhones.
- Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone 3G S and iPhone 3G.

So wait, the 3G-S and 3G are not going to be using the same firmware? :confused: So, for those of us with an iPhone3G, we cannot download OS 3.0 ? :confused:

And AT&T has posted that tethering will be available "later this summer" ?

[TheKrillr]

So wait, the 3G-S and 3G are not going to be using the same firmware? :confused:

Um, of course not. How else would the 3G-S have software support for 7.2 HDSPA, video recording, and the magnetometer while the 3G does not?

[iphones4evry1]

Um, of course not. How else would the 3G-S have software support for 7.2 HDSPA, video recording, and the magnetometer while the 3G does not?

The original iPhone and the iPhone 3G both use OS 2.x right now, and only the 3G has GPS. If you don't have a faster "modem" on your phone, then that feature simply cannot work. But the OS is the same. Also, the OS recognizes which device you have and adapts the OS settings to your device - the OS would is the same on all phones.

[charltonx]

I doubt it will install.

It most likely will not install, but the article says they recommend you don't install the 3GS version on the 3G, which suggests you can but it might ******* things up.

[Pooshka]

Woohoo! :D

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[iCantwait]

yep, i'm going to give it a go

[twoodcc]

looking forward to it! not long now

[sphoenix]

This might sound dumb. I'm not on contract so I know Push Notifications won't work on-the-go, but what about when I'm on Wi-Fi at home?

[commander.data]

With John Cormack saying that a 2 times speedup for games is possible on older PowerVR MBX based iPhones and iPod Touches if Apple focused on optimizing the OpenGL stack, has anyone looked at whether iPhone 3.0 brings any OpenGL improvements? It'd be great if someone could compared the fps of current games on a non-iPhone 3G S on iPhone OS 2.2 and iPhone OS 3.0 to see if there is any difference. I don't suppose there is an easy way to measure fps?

[BeauGiles]

This might sound dumb. I'm not on contract so I know Push Notifications won't work on-the-go, but what about when I'm on Wi-Fi at home?

Wherever you've got data; you've got push. :)

[UnseenLlama]

yep, i'm going to give it a go

Let us know how that works out for ya...;)

[junker]

I'm sorry, but I'm a bit unclear on something....

Are they saying that the 3.0 will not install on any old phone period? (meaning we're stuck without the OS upgrade) Or are there 2 different versions of 3.0? (one for 3GS and one for the others phones)

Thanks in advance

[iCantwait]

almost downloaded... stupid slow internet

[robotica]

Just Installed on 3G... From pb ... Works great :-)

[sphoenix]

Wherever you've got data; you've got push. :)Thanks for clearing that up.

[newmanjoshua]

anyone tried installing the iphone 3gs firmware on iphone 3g here yet?

[UnseenLlama]

I'm sorry, but I'm a bit unclear on something....

Are they saying that the 3.0 will not install on any old phone period? (meaning we're stuck without the OS upgrade) Or are there 2 different versions of 3.0? (one for 3GS and one for the others phones)

Thanks in advance

From Gizmodo:

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPhone 1st Generation: Search for iPhone1,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPhone 3G: Search for iPhone1,2_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPod Touch: Search for iPod2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

The iPhone 3G S has a hardware code of iPhone2,1

[iCantwait]

didnt work, i hit the update button aong with the option key and chose the 3.0, got this

[junker]

From Gizmodo:

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPhone 1st Generation: Search for iPhone1,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPhone 3G: Search for iPhone1,2_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPod Touch: Search for iPod2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

The iPhone 3G S has a hardware code of iPhone2,1

OK, great - thanks!

[newmanjoshua]

alright i guess not then... tats sad...

[UnseenLlama]

didnt work, i hit the update button aong with the option key and chose the 3.0, got this

Did you really expect it to work? :p

If you really want video recording, the best option for older iPhones (original and 3g), you might was well jailbrake and install those types of apps.

[DELLsFan]

Anticipation ... it's making me wait ... :D

[aristobrat]

Are they saying that the 3.0 will not install on any old phone period? (meaning we're stuck without the OS upgrade) Or are there 2 different versions of 3.0? (one for 3GS and one for the others phones)
There are three different versions of 3.0 -- one for each hardware.

Also, the OS recognizes which device you have and adapts the OS settings to your device - the OS would is the same on all phones.
You sure about that? Doesn't iTunes download the correct version of firmware for your iPhone? There's always been separate versions of the same OS for the different models. IIRC.

[commander.data]

From Gizmodo:

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPhone 1st Generation: Search for iPhone1,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPhone 3G: Search for iPhone1,2_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

• iPhone OS 3.0 Gold Master Final for iPod Touch: Search for iPod2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw

The iPhone 3G S has a hardware code of iPhone2,1
Is the original iPod Touch still supported? It's not listed there. I presume it'd be the iPod1,1?

[BeauGiles]

There are three different versions of 3.0 -- one for each hardware..
You forgot the ol' iPod touch!

iPod1,1

And yes 3.0 does exist for it; I upgraded my mother's iPod and she loves it :)

[Fuzzen]

I just noticed something in the first video, he is using an iPod Touch, (because it said iPod in the upper left hand corner) and he used Google Street View! This means iPod Touch gets Street View in 3.0! :eek: :D

[iMat77]

I can wait until the 17th to have the legt 3.0...

Right now I am happy because last year I subscribed for a 12 months contract to have my iPhone 3G (I previously had the iPhone 1 and sold it so I didn't spend too much). My carrier just confirmed that, on July, I will be able to unlock my iPhone because my contract has expired. I will then be able to sell it and purchase the 3GS for a decent price with a 12 months contract. So I can stay up to date with the new device ;-)

I plan to sell it for about 140 USD (considering that mine is now cheaper for sale new). But, being able to sell it to anyone with any carrier I believe I'll be able to sell it at that price (complete package, charger and everything, in very good shape).

What I am looking for in two days is 3.0 but also TomTom (btw, does anybody know what the price of tomtom will be??)

[BeauGiles]

I just noticed something in the first video, he is using an iPod Touch, (because it said iPod in the upper left hand corner) and he used Google Street View! This means iPod Touch gets Street View in 3.0! :eek: :D

Yup, that was announced back in March at the unveiling event. :)

[Fuzzen]

Yup, that was announced back in March at the unveiling event. :)

Was it? How could i have missed that! :confused: Great news none the less! :D Thanks! :)

[Ori]

Ok. I am downloading 3.0 GM now. How do I install it? Hit the option key and click restore?

[BeauGiles]

Ok. I am downloading 3.0 GM now. How do I install it? Hit the option key and click restore?

you win an internet ;)

[UnseenLlama]

Ok. I am downloading 3.0 GM now. How do I install it? Hit the option key and click restore?

Option click for Mac OS
Shift click for Windows (Vista, Windows 7)

[QCassidy352]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

I've waited since March... I think I'll just wait the two more days for the official release.

[AtlasBoy]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

I've waited since March... I think I'll just wait the two more days for the official release.

+1. Why take a chance when it's only two days away.

[Remixen]

im tempted to try it -- the biggest reason i want the 3G S is because of the video recording and voice control. If it will install, I'll be happy for a while.

Have it on my 3G, and it's working smoothly. I guess I'm going to download the proper version when it's out, just to see if it is less buggy!

The 3.0 is a bit buggy, apple's own apps are quitting the wrong way for instance. Any one else noticing this?

[espoir]

The 3.0 is a bit buggy, apple's own apps are quitting the wrong way for instance. Any one else noticing this?

I totally agree. There's a number of small bugs with 3.0 GM (which is probably the 3.0 final version to be revealed 17th june)

- Bluetooth A2DP profile seems to work (except for playback control which only supports play/pause at the moment) but is a bit buggy like sometimes it won't let you turn Bluetooth off until reboot or some small slow downs of a sound while say watching youtube videos
- Some problems with animation smoothness are quite obvious - you are going to see not smoth animation all across the OS
- Some problems with fonts in Notes application are also present (not always)
- Some overall slowdowns happen from time to time to the OS

But anyway - many and many of new features work great - copy & paste, Safari (really seems snappier this time :) ), exchange support, spotlight search and so on. I can definately tell that 3.0 update gives the feeling of a new phone with tones small changes and features. It makes me hold the phone in hands like if I just bought it :)

[darijoe]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/15/apple-and-atandt-preparing-for-iphone-3-0-launch/)The iPhone 3.0 firmware is officially launching on June 17th (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/08/iphone-os-3-0-launching-june-17th/).

I take it that it will not be released til June 18th in Australia, NZ and east Asia... that's one disadvantage of being ahead of the rest of the world :rolleyes:

[daviszo]

Thanks for using my rumor!!

At&t is driving me nutso

I cant wait for free MMS although I have the unlimited with my family plan so it wouldnt have cost me anyway. . . :apple:

For now Ill just have to keep emailing.

[Chundles]

I take it that it will not be released til June 18th in Australia, NZ and east Asia... that's one disadvantage of being ahead of the rest of the world :rolleyes:

All the au and nz sites say the 17th, the Asia site says the 18th. I'd love it to be the 17th but I think we'll have to wait an extra day.

[eaglesfanone]

:confused: So yea i downloaded the GM version of 3.0 last week when gizmodo posted that it was available on torrent pages. I subsequently restored my phone with it and now i got it. I was wondering though if anything weird will happen when i sync my phone on wednesday. i mean, i dont want my phone to be bricked or anything. anyone know what would happen with this? :confused:

[charltonx]

Not long now, only two more days, I really thought it was going to drag when 3.0 was announced in March but it's gone fairly quickly.

Is it being released PST, so we'll get it over here early evening on Wednesday?

[hokka]

Had 3.0 GM on my iPhone 3G since Friday, MMS via Optus seems to work, the OS is still buggy, slowdown, unresponsive buttons, wierd freezes (Safari, had to force restart) and weird crashes (3rd party apps - Darkroom for example), transition into search screen isn't all that smooth.

I also tested Find my iPhone, it sort of works in Sydney, the message I tested took almost an hour to get to the phone, when I tried to find it on the map, it showed up the last place I lived - from 3 months ago! How could that be? It did eventually work but Mobile Me seems not very acurate in that it says the phone is "Offline" when it's next to me and not turned off, strange! Also while it said "offline" (the light under the phone becomes greyed out, same as MacRumors' forum lights) then you can't make it look for the phone, I wonder WHEN does it become "offline"? And say if the thief switches the phone off, will it be offline or what? need more clarification.

I hope later this week when they release the final version will have all these issues resolved. Also be aware to activate Find My iPhone you HAVE to activate Mobile Me's email account and turn Push Notification on you iPhone, for me that has a large data plan it's okay, but if you only have a puny 500MB plan then I'd becareful if you don't wish to go over and having another email account on my phone (I have 3 already) can be a bit of pain, back and forth, know what I mean?

Anyone else had similar experience?

[lwongveros]

has anyone upgraded their iPhone 2G to 3.0 that previously had the phone unlocked via ZiPhone (or other) methods? When I unlocked it at version 2.0 I was able to apply the regular upgrades via iTunes. Does restoring the 3.0 GM lose the unlock capability?

[robotica]

has anyone upgraded their iPhone 2G to 3.0 that previously had the phone unlocked via ZiPhone (or other) methods? When I unlocked it at version 2.0 I was able to apply the regular upgrades via iTunes. Does restoring the 3.0 GM lose the unlock capability?

this is a goooood question

[BostonApple]

I have been using the 3.0 software on my iPhone 3G for about a week now with zero issues. Everything seems to be working smoothly. The find my iPhone works 100% perfect through MobileMe. I have also enabled the tethering feature which is also working 100% perfect and is very fast.

[mackmgg]

- The iPhone 3.0 re-download charging message has been removed and was a bug (http://appadvice.com/appnn/2009/06/iphone-os-30-re-download-message-a-bug-says-apple/) according to AppAdvice. Re-downloading apps in 3.0 should be the same as the current firmware ( which means free).


Actually, once you sign out, then sign in with another account, the recharge for apps thing comes back. The only way as far as I know to get it free again, is to restore the iDevice.

[iPhoneNYC]

ATT continues to be the weak link here in the US. Why do we have to wait for services that they've had months to get ready. Why no tethering now and ATT only comes forth when 21 other providers offer the service. Imagine having the iPhone without ATT!

[esquared]

Just got the email from Apple, White 32GB 3Gs is on the way!

[darkpaw]

Not quite right... You can restore the iPhone, if you find it again, from the last backup you did.

From:http://www.apple.com/uk/mobileme/whats-new/
I know, that's why I said wipe it only if you're sure you're never going to find it again. If it's lost and MobileMe can't find it because, say, the battery's dead, when someone finds it and charges it if you've wiped it MobileMe cannot find it.

[darkpaw]

...Apple's own apps are quitting the wrong way for instance. Any one else noticing this?

Yeah, I've noticed it a lot with Mail and Safari. They just disappear instead of fading into the distance. I already bugged this with Apple.

[corykane]

Can someone explain what the MMS deal is going to be? If I am getting the new iPhone and have the $5 text messaging package for 200 text messages, will the MMS count as text messages or will they be $0.30 like they are now for my sony ericsson w810i?

[Romanesq]

Had 3.0 GM on my iPhone 3G since Friday, MMS via Optus seems to work, the OS is still buggy, slowdown, unresponsive buttons, wierd freezes (Safari, had to force restart) and weird crashes (3rd party apps - Darkroom for example), transition into search screen isn't all that smooth.

I also tested Find my iPhone, it sort of works in Sydney, the message I tested took almost an hour to get to the phone, when I tried to find it on the map, it showed up the last place I lived - from 3 months ago! How could that be? It did eventually work but Mobile Me seems not very acurate in that it says the phone is "Offline" when it's next to me and not turned off, strange! Also while it said "offline" (the light under the phone becomes greyed out, same as MacRumors' forum lights) then you can't make it look for the phone, I wonder WHEN does it become "offline"? And say if the thief switches the phone off, will it be offline or what? need more clarification.

I hope later this week when they release the final version will have all these issues resolved. Also be aware to activate Find My iPhone you HAVE to activate Mobile Me's email account and turn Push Notification on you iPhone, for me that has a large data plan it's okay, but if you only have a puny 500MB plan then I'd becareful if you don't wish to go over and having another email account on my phone (I have 3 already) can be a bit of pain, back and forth, know what I mean?

Anyone else had similar experience?

The find my iphone showed a green light on the Mobileme webpage. It did not find the phone but a short message was sent and received on the iPhone in about two minutes. An email confirmation did show up in mail as well.

I see nothing in the setting though about notifications for push unlike the picture on page one here. Okay, I read up on the settings.
You have to go into mail, contacts, calendars in Settings and go into Mobileme and turn the find my iphone option to on. Then you also need to go back and go into Fetch New Data and turn on Push.

It works. It pulled up a Goggle Map in about a minute in my area and then narrowed down the location a bit more showing the approximate location. It then gives a time stamp.

Not too shabby.


So don't know about that.

[Max E Verde]

I don't think Street View (and the other Maps features that were in iPhone OS 2.2 for the iPhone) was announced, unless it was during the FAQ and I missed it, but it has been there since Beta 1. You will also get walking and mass transit directions on your iPod touch.

I just tested Find My iPhone. Unlike the person above me it works fine for me. Took just a second to find my approximate location (not shown as I don't want a public forum to see my location) and about 30 seconds to find a closer location. It took less than 1 second each to send 2 messages. One without a sound and one with. The sound is said to go off for 2 minutes, but if you unlock your iPhone and press the OK button on the alert that pops up, you can turn it off earlier. Also Apple sends you an email for every message you send. Unfortunately, if you leave the ringer volume low, it will play at the ringer volume. I was hoping it would always play at max volume.

I have my iPod touch with Find my iPhone on, and according to an FAQ, your iPod touch must be connected to Wi-Fi (for obvious reasons), but it also must be not asleep. My guess is this is because Wi-Fi turns off on the iPod touch on sleep to save battery.

By the way, has anyone found any apps other than Tap Tap and the AIM beta that use push yet?

[hokka]

Can someone explain what the MMS deal is going to be? If I am getting the new iPhone and have the $5 text messaging package for 200 text messages, will the MMS count as text messages or will they be $0.30 like they are now for my sony ericsson w810i?

I think you've just answered your own question, I think it's the same with all carriers world wide, unless they specifically say incl. M(ultimedia)MS, then you can bet on your mother's grave they will bend you over as it's not "Text" message, and that's exactly why people were defending Apple on not having MMS for a long time since email was (sort) of free while MMS will cost you much more for much less.

[shawnce]

With John Cormack saying that a 2 times speedup for games is possible on older PowerVR MBX based iPhones and iPod Touches if Apple focused on optimizing the OpenGL stack, has anyone looked at whether iPhone 3.0 brings any OpenGL improvements? Apple implemented improvements to many layers in the iPhone OS that will benefit prior generation iPhones. I have no idea of how much those could help game performance however...

[lkal3]

same here in Greece itunes say 18th.Another extra day for us?


All the au and nz sites say the 17th, the Asia site says the 18th. I'd love it to be the 17th but I think we'll have to wait an extra day.

[hokka]

I just tested Find My iPhone. Unlike the person above me it works fine for me. Took just a second to find my approximate location (not shown as I don't want a public forum to see my location) and about 30 seconds to find a closer location. It took less than 1 second each to send 2 messages...

Thanks for that, I've just tested again, same thing in the beginning, it defaults to where I used to live 3 months ago, while it says "refining searches, this may take up to 3 minutes" it took 2-3 minutes to finally located it, so i think it maybe (wireless) network related? or provider related? This is Australia after all, 20million people on an island the size of US and 3 carriers all sell iPhones, so they don't need try very hard ;)

[Jamie 360]

<<This firmware is specifically for the new iPhone 3G S (iPhone2,1) so is not recommended to be installed on older iPhones.>>

So does this imply that you shouldn't put 3.0 on the 2G? I was planning on leaving my 2G firmware as is on my 8 gig 2G anyway--it will be fun to compare the new features on the new phone to the old version--but I can't help but think 3.0 might be a little sluggish on a 4gig 2G?

[Love]

A page in MobileMe's help says: "After you delete all the information on your device, you won’t able to use Find My iPhone to locate your device on a map or send it a message."

That's common sense really, as you have to enable something on the phone to be able to find it. However, it's a warning that once you remote wipe your iPhone is essentially gone. Be very careful before you wipe it. Be sure you can't get it back.

Just tested this on my iPhone 3G running 3.0 GM. (It didn't have anything on it.)

I am still able to locate the device, just plugged it back in to iTunes and reactivated it. I have a SIM PIN, and a bug with 3.0 is that when it asks me to enter the SIM PIN, it appears to be in a language might be something like Ukrainian or the like.

[RonD69]

For those who installed 3.0 already, did you guys try that feature with a bluetooth headset? If so, how did it work out for you? And what was the make/model of the headset?

Of all the features I'm waiting on, stereo bluetooth is the big thing for me!

[Thex1138]

So if this is correct and iPhone 3G S is iPhone2,1.... then what is iPhone3,1 in the OS 3.0 SDK ?
..if so then why should I buy the S model then?

Mind you I'll buy both if 3,1 has a flux capacitor...

[jhpadilla]

<<This firmware is specifically for the new iPhone 3G S (iPhone2,1) so is not recommended to be installed on older iPhones.>>

So does this imply that you shouldn't put 3.0 on the 2G? I was planning on leaving my 2G firmware as is on my 8 gig 2G anyway--it will be fun to compare the new features on the new phone to the old version--but I can't help but think 3.0 might be a little sluggish on a 4gig 2G?

Yes, it is implied.

And no, it will not be sluggish, though as any x.0 release it will be buggy, but not unbearably so I think (hope!).

[shawnce]

<<This firmware is specifically for the new iPhone 3G S (iPhone2,1) so is not recommended to be installed on older iPhones.>>

So does this imply that you shouldn't put 3.0 on the 2G? No. Apple is making the 3.0 OS available for all iPhone models and iPod Touch models (later for a minor upgrade fee) that they have manufactured to date.

The new iPhone 3GS uses a different processor core and chipset then prior generation devices and as a result you shouldn't install the 3GS specific image of 3.0 OS X on the older devices since it may not contain all that the older devices needs.

[bytethese]

has anyone tried putting the 3G S firmware on their 3G?

No, since they have different hardware internally, why would someone do that unless it was for laughs. :)

[RonD69]

So if this is correct and iPhone 3G S is iPhone2,1.... then what is iPhone3,1 in the OS 3.0 SDK ?

OOOOOO...a new device in time for the holiday shopping season?! (this is how rumors get started). LOL

[funkdaddy]

With the Find My iPhone/Wipe feature, they should have put in an option to lock the phone with a passcode remotely. Just set the passcode on the phone, then if it gets lost, lock it and send a message/find it. I know lots of people don't use the lock feature for convenience.

[coledog]

Has anyone else noticed that inside the camera app the 'view photos' button is just a grayish square? The button works, but it's not what it's supposed to look like.

[lukin]

Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone 3G S and iPhone 3G.

... so for original iPhone owners who still pay $20 which includes 200 text with no extra text package are we going to get bent over and have to pay for each MMS?

[hokka]

Has anyone else noticed that inside the camera app the 'view photos' button is just a grayish square? The button works, but it's not what it's supposed to look like.

Take a photo first, then you'll see the square is filled with "last" shot icon

[mmendoza27]

Had 3.0 GM on my iPhone 3G since Friday, MMS via Optus seems to work, the OS is still buggy, slowdown, unresponsive buttons, wierd freezes (Safari, had to force restart) and weird crashes (3rd party apps - Darkroom for example), transition into search screen isn't all that smooth.

I also tested Find my iPhone, it sort of works in Sydney, the message I tested took almost an hour to get to the phone, when I tried to find it on the map, it showed up the last place I lived - from 3 months ago! How could that be? It did eventually work but Mobile Me seems not very acurate in that it says the phone is "Offline" when it's next to me and not turned off, strange! Also while it said "offline" (the light under the phone becomes greyed out, same as MacRumors' forum lights) then you can't make it look for the phone, I wonder WHEN does it become "offline"? And say if the thief switches the phone off, will it be offline or what? need more clarification.

I hope later this week when they release the final version will have all these issues resolved. Also be aware to activate Find My iPhone you HAVE to activate Mobile Me's email account and turn Push Notification on you iPhone, for me that has a large data plan it's okay, but if you only have a puny 500MB plan then I'd becareful if you don't wish to go over and having another email account on my phone (I have 3 already) can be a bit of pain, back and forth, know what I mean?

Anyone else had similar experience?

This is the final version. It's the Gold Master, which means this is the candidate that will be released on Wednesday. I've been using the 3.0 since Day 1 and it's A LOT more stable. Apps didn't work, apps would crash, there were GUI inconsistencies, etc. Plus, expect a lot of 3rd party apps to release updates to their apps, making them 3.0 compatible.

I'd honestly recommend possibly restoring on Wednesday (or now, don't matter) and not restoring from backup. That should probably fix a lot of your issues. If it doesn't you may want to take your iPhone to a local Apple store.

[Max E Verde]

Thanks for that, I've just tested again, same thing in the beginning, it defaults to where I used to live 3 months ago, while it says "refining searches, this may take up to 3 minutes" it took 2-3 minutes to finally located it, so i think it maybe (wireless) network related? or provider related? This is Australia after all, 20million people on an island the size of US and 3 carriers all sell iPhones, so they don't need try very hard ;)

Oh, I was on Wi-Fi when I checked it before. I just tested it on 3G and it's practically as fast. Maybe Apple hasn't optimized it for the carriers in Australia yet? I bet it's actually harder for Apple with more carriers as they have to optimize it for different settings

Has anyone else noticed that inside the camera app the 'view photos' button is just a grayish square? The button works, but it's not what it's supposed to look like.

It is a greyish (or possibly black, I haven't seen it since beta 1) square until you take your first photo. An animation puts the photo you took into that square. Your last photo will always be in there

[NinjaHERO]

The iPhone 3.0 re-download charging message has been removed and was a bug according to AppAdvice. Re-downloading apps in 3.0 should be the same as the current firmware ( which means free).

This is good to hear. I really didn't want to have to plug into my computer everytime I reload a paid app. Silly bugs.

[wheezy]

ATT better be preparing, with no MMS and tethering support from the shoot it's like they learned about the 3G S at the WWDC like we did. I wish that they're blatant slacking off would be considered a contract violation so Apple could drop them and move on to carriers that get stuff done. And don't charge you an arm and a leg for everything (just an arm will do)

At first people complained about the initial price point of the iPhone, but at the rate ATT goes, it'll cost more than that every month just to use it. Granted, this is a use it all day setup:

Unlimited Minutes: $99
Unlimited Date $30
Unlimited Texting $20
Tethering $39 (just a guess)

= $180/month. Are you kidding me? The tethering is a wild guess, but I wouldn't hold it past them. They treat data like it's an endangered resource.

[bytethese]

... so for original iPhone owners who still pay $20 which includes 200 text with no extra text package are we going to get bent over and have to pay for each MMS?

Nope, I think you misread. If you update your phone to 3.0, it can now handle MMS and will be billed as a text message. Since your plan includes 200 texts, I would think you would have this as well. :)

The rest of us have to pay extra for a text plan. :P

[spazzcat]

For those who installed 3.0 already, did you guys try that feature with a bluetooth headset? If so, how did it work out for you? And what was the make/model of the headset?

Of all the features I'm waiting on, stereo bluetooth is the big thing for me!

I been using it with Ford Sync since beta 1. It works good. It may break up once in a while. And every now and then it doesn't stop playing when you turn off the car.

[funkdaddy]

Nope, I think you misread. If you update your phone to 3.0, it can now handle MMS and will be billed as a text message. Since your plan includes 200 texts, I would think you would have this as well. :)

The rest of us have to pay extra for a text plan. :P

I'm not so sure about that. I heard the MMS is only available on the 3G/S. Supposedly, the radio in 1st Gen doesn't support it. Can anyone confirm with the GM firmware on an original iPhone that they have the option to send MMS?

[phillipjfry]

Wherever you've got data; you've got push. :)

Yea but does this mean that GMail will push in the Mail app? Or am i still forced to wait the 15 minute cycle before my phone checks for new mail?

[ghostface147]

http://www.vulomedia.com/images/56253IMG_0174.png

Guess I need to have an app that supports push to get that option in settings.

[ghostface147]

I'm not so sure about that. I heard the MMS is only available on the 3G/S. Supposedly, the radio in 1st Gen doesn't support it. Can anyone confirm with the GM firmware on an original iPhone that they have the option to send MMS?

That is correct, 1st gen doesn't support MMS. That was mentioned at Macworld 09.

[jclardy]

Yeah, I have been using the bluetooth on my 2G iPod Touch to connect to my Sony BT-2600 stereo and it works great, other than not being able to switch songs with the faceplate controls. I'm hoping they add that in later...(Or at least on the 3G S that i'm getting :))

[bytethese]

I'm not so sure about that. I heard the MMS is only available on the 3G/S. Supposedly, the radio in 1st Gen doesn't support it. Can anyone confirm with the GM firmware on an original iPhone that they have the option to send MMS?

It would have nothing to do with the radio actually. The only reason I could see it not doing MMS is if Apple did not want it to since it can only handle EDGE speeds and if their implementation uses better quality photos then it would be extremely slow on an original iPhone. Although Apple's implementation may be similar to emailing a photo, the app scales down the pic automagically. :)

[frabber]

I think t-mobile netherlands is going down the same path, providing tethering later as an addon (read additional cost).

I am a little bit puzzled by all this since with my current mobile, a Nokia e61, I can provide tethering for my macbook through t-mobile already (for years actually)...

I am not too sure if I want to "upgrade" to an iphone...

[hokka]

...I'd honestly recommend possibly restoring on Wednesday (or now, don't matter) and not restoring from backup. That should probably fix a lot of your issues. If it doesn't you may want to take your iPhone to a local Apple store.

For some reason I can't restore not from a back up as it gives me an error"Can not find resources", I've tried a]. clean restore then manual restore from a back-up, b]. to put the GM ipsw into the iPhone Software Updates folder (and restarted iTunes) but it still does not recognise (or allow), so I'm restoring via "option" key and have to restore from back up again, maybe when it's officially released then I'll try again

[stagi]

For those who installed 3.0 already, did you guys try that feature with a bluetooth headset? If so, how did it work out for you? And what was the make/model of the headset?

Of all the features I'm waiting on, stereo bluetooth is the big thing for me!
It is not fully working for me in my car (although I don't know if maybe my car bluetooth system will support it or not?) I can't get music to play at all but my voicemail's which used to only play through the iPhone or iPhone speakerphone now do play through the stereo which is nice.
I was really hoping to play my iTunes through the bluetooth connection but no luck so far.

[Day48]

I haven't heard much about an update for the 1st generation iPhone? Is there gonna be something? I know back in Febuary they mentioned that we would get some features but since then there has been no mention of it anywhere!?

[visitormatt]

Can anyone please post a link to 3.0 download for 3G?

Thanks

[patrick001]

Can anyone please post a link to 3.0 download for 3G?

Thanks

No.

[jhpadilla]

I haven't heard much about an update for the 1st generation iPhone? Is there gonna be something? I know back in Febuary they mentioned that we would get some features but since then there has been no mention of it anywhere!?

The iPhone OS version 3.0 will be available for all iPod touch and iPhone generations. Each in their system-specific packages as always.
Some features will be exclusive to the hardware included (as video and compass for the 3G S), but other features will apply to all (search, push, copy-paste, mmsms).

[Max E Verde]

The iPhone OS version 3.0 will be available for all iPod touch and iPhone generations. Each in their system-specific packages as always.
Some features will be exclusive to the hardware included (as video and compass for the 3G S), but other features will apply to all (search, push, copy-paste, mmsms).

MMS will be 3G and 3G S only, and carrier dependent. I believe Stereo Bluetooth will not work on a 1st gen iPhone and will defiantly not work on a 1st gen iPod touch because that doesn't have bluetooth.

[RonD69]

For those who installed 3.0 already, did you guys try that feature with a bluetooth headset? If so, how did it work out for you? And what was the make/model of the headset?

Of all the features I'm waiting on, stereo bluetooth is the big thing for me!

I've done a little bit of digging...

...take a look at this website: http://www.a2dp.info/Front-Page/iPhone-OS-3.0-You-Get-A2DP.html

If this site is spot-on, then bluetooth gear supporting A2DP will work with the 3G and 3G S running 3.0. But some people here that 3.0 is buggy when it comes to their bluetooth gear.

[lazyrighteye]

With AT&T's in-store allotment of 3G Ses sold out, does anyone know if Apple is still accepting online orders AND guaranteeing a 19th delivery?

[njfuzzy]

I'm sorry, but I'm a bit unclear on something....

Are they saying that the 3.0 will not install on any old phone period? (meaning we're stuck without the OS upgrade) Or are there 2 different versions of 3.0? (one for 3GS and one for the others phones)

Thanks in advance

No, don't worry!

The iPhone OS 3.0 is software. It will work on all older iPhones, including first generation ones.

However, the 3 GS-- in addition to running the 3.0 OS software-- also has a different firmware. This will include support for 3.5G internet, and other hardware features.

The only file currently available is the restore pack for the 3GS, which includes iPhone OS 3.0 plus the 3GS firmware. This particular file will probably give older iPhones trouble.

Starting on Wednesday, the 3.0 software will be available to download for all iPhones.

[Jeremy08]

Don't know if any of you are familiar, but i have a 1500 text for 8.99 plan i found on another forum on this website. It is a text plan, for fan discount members. I am wondering if I will get free mms or if I will have to change my text plan? Any ideas?

[gdeusthewhizkid]

I fudged up my Iphone 3g. I downloaded the 3.0 software. something screwed up on install and now itunes wont detect my iphone 3g. it has the connect to itunes on the screen but itunes wont connect to the iphone server. if i have the software to restore.. why won't it let me to do it...

[aardwolf]

I fudged up my Iphone 3g. I downloaded the 3.0 software. something screwed up on install and now itunes wont detect my iphone 3g. it has the connect to itunes on the screen but itunes wont connect to the iphone server. if i have the software to restore.. why won't it let me to do it...

Research DFU mode. You can go back, but it will take some work.

[bytethese]

Can anyone please post a link to 3.0 download for 3G?

Thanks

http://www.apple.com

Try on June 17th tho.

[jayman99]

it's good to see that apple and att are prepping the launch together. last years launch was a disaster. they learned. and then the 2.0 software update and mobileme disasters at the same time! all in the same day! so finally, current owners can upgrade their software this wednesday. they learned last year. im still using the original iphone edge. im debating about upgrading. it would be nice to see att lower their data and cell costs. seems too high. apple and att should work together on pricing these bad boys more efficiently. anyway. looking forward to 3.0, 3gs, snow leopard.

[Le Big Mac]

Can someone explain what the MMS deal is going to be? If I am getting the new iPhone and have the $5 text messaging package for 200 text messages, will the MMS count as text messages or will they be $0.30 like they are now for my sony ericsson w810i?

But MMS is extra beyond the $30 data plan? WTF--it's insulting enough that we get charged extra for texting beyond data, but now also for MMS as well?

[ClaytonK]

My carrier just confirmed that, on July, I will be able to unlock my iPhone because my contract has expired.

Who's your carrier? Does anyone know if AT&T will unlock old iphones once we've done our time?

[diamond.g]

But MMS is extra beyond the $30 data plan? WTF--it's insulting enough that we get charged extra for texting beyond data, but now also for MMS as well?

Not true, AT&T claims that MMS is included as apart of your texting package.

[jbrandonf]

I fudged up my Iphone 3g. I downloaded the 3.0 software. something screwed up on install and now itunes wont detect my iphone 3g. it has the connect to itunes on the screen but itunes wont connect to the iphone server. if i have the software to restore.. why won't it let me to do it...

What did you expect?

Anyway I've had 3.0 since last week and it's frustrated me incredibly. At random times 20% of the left side of my screen will not respond to touch. Meaning I had to change my passwords for apps I could not log into with a landscape keyboard because I could type a "1". (I realized after I can copy and paste a 1 in). I'll be restoring with the firmware apple officially releases and if that doesn't work I'll take my phone in for a replacement. This is bull!

[Day48]

what do you get when your contract is up and it is time to upgrade? How much money do thy give you towards your next phone? Anyone know? I have a 1G and my contract is up in december.

[dgcaste]

Does anybody's Apple Store order status page show "shipped"? I ordered two on Friday afternoon, one of them says "prepared for shipment" and the other one "not yet shipped", yet both are still "to be delivered by June 19th" (US user with AT&T)

[diamond.g]

what do you get when your contract is up and it is time to upgrade? How much money do thy give you towards your next phone? Anyone know? I have a 1G and my contract is up in december.

Depending on how they price the phone, anywhere from 200 to 400 off.

[AtlasBoy]

No.

lol - Thanks Patrick. I needed a good laugh.

[SLAPSHOTW]

Quick question for those who have updated-- does the update wipe your phone, requiring you to re-sync all the data?

The only computer I have access to right now isn't my "sync" computer with all my music, apps, etc... If that data will go away I'm going to hold off on installing as I can't recover it at this moment.

Thanks!

[AtlasBoy]

Don't know if any of you are familiar, but i have a 1500 text for 8.99 plan i found on another forum on this website. It is a text plan, for fan discount members. I am wondering if I will get free mms or if I will have to change my text plan? Any ideas?

I have an idea. Call your provider and ask them.

[nagromme]

Something's not clear to me:

AT&T says they'll offer MMS "at no extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle."

I don't have a text messaging bundle. (I don't use nearly enough SMS to be worth $5 a month.) So will I pay 20 cents each MMS--"no extra cost" compared to the 20 cents I now pay for SMS?

Or will I pay extra for each SMS--30 cents or something? It sounds like AT&T charges 30 cents for other phones, in which case I expect the iPhone will be in the same category.

And I'll stick to free email :) EXCEPT for sending my GPS location. That's very useful--but at 30 cents (or even 20) a bit less so :o

Quick question for those who have updated-- does the update wipe your phone, requiring you to re-sync all the data?

The only computer I have access to right now isn't my "sync" computer with all my music, apps, etc... If that data will go away I'm going to hold off on installing as I can't recover it at this moment.

Thanks!

I don't know--probably not a full wipe I'd guess--but I'd STILL hold off. It's a big update, and a bigger change than your phone goes through normally. You never know what MIGHT happen, so I'd play it safe.

I plan to back up my phone as usual before the update, AND copy the pre-3.0 the backup someplace for safekeeping. It's in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup, FYI. (Otherwise the next 3.0 backup will overwrite it and I'll have no fallback if some important app gets messed up by 3.0. Or if the backup itself does.)

[cmcconkey]

This may have already been asked, but I haven't run across it.

Will the 3G iPhone do voice dialing with the new firmware?

[AtlasBoy]

But MMS is extra beyond the $30 data plan? WTF--it's insulting enough that we get charged extra for texting beyond data, but now also for MMS as well?

If AT&T is your providor, MMS cost is tied to your text plan. Here is a link to FAQ's on AT&T site. It's on page two.

http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/iPhone/Customers_FAQs.pdf

[dgcaste]

Don't know if any of you are familiar, but i have a 1500 text for 8.99 plan i found on another forum on this website. It is a text plan, for fan discount members. I am wondering if I will get free mms or if I will have to change my text plan? Any ideas?

I'm a FAN member but I don't have access to that plan, can you point me in the right direction pls?

[gdeusthewhizkid]

What did you expect?

Anyway I've had 3.0 since last week and it's frustrated me incredibly. At random times 20% of the left side of my screen will not respond to touch. Meaning I had to change my passwords for apps I could not log into with a landscape keyboard because I could type a "1". (I realized after I can copy and paste a 1 in). I'll be restoring with the firmware apple officially releases and if that doesn't work I'll take my phone in for a replacement. This is bull!

that is what i get lol. oh well. good thing i backuped my iphone 3g over the weekend. lol... My work computer ain't seeing my iphone damn a whole day without my iphone sheesh..

[nagromme]

This may have already been asked, but I haven't run across it.

Will the 3G iPhone do voice dialing with the new firmware?

I believe not. They may have built it specifically for the capabilities of the new CPU? It's listed in the 3GS pages, but not in the OS 3.0 pages.

(There are some limited voice dialer apps for 3G though.)

[sirgant]

This is really funny. People can't wait 2 days for the Apple launch of 3.0. I will gladly wait a couple of months before thinking about putting 3.0 on my iPhone. My sincere thanks to all the beta testers out there.

[shawnce]

Can anyone please post a link to 3.0 download for 3G? Sure let me first download it, patch it with some malware and then I will post a link to the patched version for ya! ;)

Seriously wait a couple of days for the official release and for it to show up directly from Apple.

[dant19]

For those asking how much MMS will be, O2 have said the following...

"You can use your text bundle to send picture messages in the UK and abroad. One picture message equals four normal texts, or if you've got no bundle texts left, they cost 24.47p a message (21.28p excluding VAT)."

http://http://shop.o2.co.uk/update/mms.html

[coledog]

Quick question for those who have updated-- does the update wipe your phone, requiring you to re-sync all the data?

The only computer I have access to right now isn't my "sync" computer with all my music, apps, etc... If that data will go away I'm going to hold off on installing as I can't recover it at this moment.

Thanks!


I don't know--probably not a full wipe I'd guess--but I'd STILL hold off. It's a big update, and a bigger change than your phone goes through normally. You never know what MIGHT happen, so I'd play it safe.

I plan to back up my phone as usual before the update, AND copy the pre-3.0 the backup someplace for safekeeping. It's in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup, FYI. (Otherwise the next 3.0 backup will overwrite it and I'll have no fallback if some important app gets messed up by 3.0. Or if the backup itself does.)

I just completed mine this morning and everything is still there, all previous text messages, 7 unread emails, it's all there.

The whole process took about 15-20 minutes I believe.

[shawnce]

Will the 3G iPhone do voice dialing with the new firmware? The following lists the new features you get with the 3.0 OS update for all phones...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/softwareupdate/

The following compares the 3G and 3G S...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/

[skillz1318]

I just completed mine this morning and everything is still there, all previous text messages, 7 unread emails, it's all there.

The whole process took about 15-20 minutes I believe.


Did you still have your music and all your applications?

[coledog]

Did you still have your music and all your applications?

Every last little bit...the apps are a little skewed, but otherwise all there. Settings still the same for Facebook or AIM logins etc.

[cobiray]

Anyone else notice the price differential on the 3G model on that ATT link? 499 vs 299 now? Bummer, man.

[davidbrummy]

I take it that it will not be released til June 18th in Australia, NZ and east Asia... that's one disadvantage of being ahead of the rest of the world :rolleyes:

I wonder what time on the 17th? I bet the ops people in charge of their download servers are already bricking themselves over the traffic.

9am - release
9.01am - update servers are dying

:)
David

[bndoarn]

So wait, the 3G-S and 3G are not going to be using the same firmware? :confused: So, for those of us with an iPhone3G, we cannot download OS 3.0 ? :confused:

And AT&T has posted that tethering will be available "later this summer" ?

you're just getting confused. there are five different "versions" of 3.0. a different one for the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 3G, original iPhone, iPod Touch 2G, and iPod Touch 1G. what it's saying is that you can't install the iPhone 3GS version of 3.0 on the iPhone 3G, you have to install the iPhone 3G version of 3.0. both the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 3G will get tethering and MSS later this summer

[Mykbibby]

has anyone tried putting the 3G S firmware on their 3G?

I'd be interested to see if anyone has yet... since we all know video is software, maybe it would work?

[BearsFan34]

Find my iPhone isn't working for me.

Am running the iPhone 3.0 GM on a 3G. Restored my 3G to the GM perfectly, runs great.

I do have a Mobile Me account. I did restore my info from a backup, not sure if that's the issue...

...but when I log in to my MobileMe account online (Find My iPhone is turned ON on my 3G, just checked), I'm told "No devices registered."

Huh?

I do have Location Services on, full 5 bars of AT&T 3G where I'm sitting...have tried at home and at work, and I can't find a screen where I can actually register my device with MM.

Maybe because I'm not a "developer" I can't register my 3G until the "official" release day of June 17th?

Anyone?

[SyNiSt3r]

Im a Fan Member too and I dont seem to have access to this text plan either. Can someone point me in the right direction as well please?

[Willis]

Any ideas as to what time it might be out on Wednesday? The servers are going to be hammered to get the download

[diamond.g]

Find my iPhone isn't working for me.

Am running the iPhone 3.0 GM on a 3G. Restored my 3G to the GM perfectly, runs great.

I do have a Mobile Me account. I did restore my info from a backup, not sure if that's the issue...

...but when I log in to my MobileMe account online (Find My iPhone is turned ON on my 3G, just checked), I'm told "No devices registered."

Huh?

I do have Location Services on, full 5 bars of AT&T 3G where I'm sitting...have tried at home and at work, and I can't find a screen where I can actually register my device with MM.

Maybe because I'm not a "developer" I can't register my 3G until the "official" release day of June 17th?

Anyone?

Turn it on in the iPhone itself. It should be listed under your mobile me setting on the phone.

[iMacoo7]

Out of curiosity how many members have jailbroken iphones?
I myself have one , because of applications like Cycorder/qik to name a few good ones that I use on a regular basis. I guess the real question is , if you have a jailbroken iphone are you going to wait until there is a jailbreak for 3.0 software?

I personally am going to wait, because I do love using the features of cycorder/qik and pdanet (which allows tethering with the iphone)

I also already have the software to use landscape keyboard/copy,paste/bluetooth file transfer (not ad2p)
all via Cydia

I guess I really want to know who has a jailbroken iphone that is going to wait or is going to upgrade

[iMacoo7]

Can anyone please post a link to 3.0 download for 3G?

Thanks
Just do a google search and you will find what you are looking for. No need to ask for a link. Google is your best friend

[BearsFan34]

Turn it on in the iPhone itself. It should be listed under your mobile me setting on the phone.

Did that. It's set to on. Still the "No Devices Registered" on my MobileMe homepage. Location Services still on. Nothin'.

[Le Big Mac]

Not true, AT&T claims that MMS is included as apart of your texting package.

I understand that. The point is that in addition to the $30 data plan one needs to sign up for text plan to get MMS.

[maestro55]

I understand that. The point is that in addition to the $30 data plan one needs to sign up for text plan to get MMS.

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you will see get the 200 text messages which will include MMS when they start offering with the included data plan.

[diamond.g]

Did that. It's set to on. Still the "No Devices Registered" on my MobileMe homepage. Location Services still on. Nothin'.
Odd, it works jsut fine for me (on my iPhone1,1).
I understand that. The point is that in addition to the $30 data plan one needs to sign up for text plan to get MMS.

Oh, yeah that is the case, it happens to be the case in all 3G/3GS iPhone plans. You need the text plan to get text as well.

[BearsFan34]

Odd, it works jsut fine for me (on my iPhone1,1).


Am beginning to wonder if I need to delete my MobileMe account info on my iPhone, re-add it, and start over. Maybe that will "flip the switch." I dunno, can't seem to find the answer to this one.

[thebigo]

With the Find My iPhone/Wipe feature, they should have put in an option to lock the phone with a passcode remotely. Just set the passcode on the phone, then if it gets lost, lock it and send a message/find it. I know lots of people don't use the lock feature for convenience.

Blaming somebody else because you find security features to be "inconvenient" is not really solving much.

[BLACK MAC]

Has anyone found on the Apple Servers the released 3.0 for the 3G? It's not posted ahead of schedule, is it?

Nevermind......I found my answer. :cool:

[Le Big Mac]

You need the text plan to get text as well.

You don't say .. . :rolleyes:

[diamond.g]

You don't say .. . :rolleyes:

:D

AT&T considers the MMS to be text even though it travels over the data connection. That way they don't require normal phone that can get MMS to have data plans. Of course that screws with those that do have data plans...

[w00master]

Did that. It's set to on. Still the "No Devices Registered" on my MobileMe homepage. Location Services still on. Nothin'.

"Find my iPhone" is not about "location services" being on. You need to do this:

Settings --> Mail, Contacts, Calendars --> Your Me.com Account --> Scroll down until you see "Find my iPhone" on/off switch.

w00master

[BearsFan34]

"Find my iPhone" is not about "location services" being on. You need to do this:

Settings --> Mail, Contacts, Calendars --> Your Me.com Account --> Scroll down until you see "Find my iPhone" on/off switch.

w00master

Sorry, I wasn't clear...

I *did* turn that switch on. And when I don't have Location Services turned on, and I go to Mail, Contacts, Calendars and my MM account, the Find My iPhone option is grayed out.

So just now I triple-checked to be sure everything was turned on; Location Services on, Find My iPhone on, and I submit the following:

[images removed by author]


Thanks for your help on this. Yes, I can wait until the 17th and do it "legitimately," so not a big deal...am just baffled as to why it's not functioning.

[w00master]

Sorry, I wasn't clear...

I *did* turn that switch on. And when I don't have Location Services turned on, and I go to Mail, Contacts, Calendars and my MM account, the Find My iPhone option is grayed out.

So just now I triple-checked to be sure everything was turned on; Location Services on, Find My iPhone on, and I submit the following:


Thanks for your help on this. Yes, I can wait until the 17th and do it "legitimately," so not a big deal...am just baffled as to why it's not functioning.

Okies, not sure now... LOL Just wanted to make sure that you had that switch on, it's a bit confusing how to turn on "Find my iPhone." I hope that Apple streamlines that in the future.

I think your original assumption is probably correct that it was turned on briefly for devs, but now that there are a lot of non-devs using iPhone 3.0, Apple probably shut that service down. Maybe. In any case, you won't have to wait long to find out, so I wouldn't worry about it right now (unless you're plannin' on losing your iPhone anytime soon!) :p

[AtlasBoy]

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you will see get the 200 text messages which will include MMS when they start offering with the included data plan.

The 200 SMS / MMS text package with AT&T is $ 5.00 per month. You can get 1500 for $15.00, and unlimited for $20.00. At least thats what AT&T's site says. If you don't have a bundle, you pay per message (rates on ATT.com).

Here's the pricing for voice / data and texting from ATT

http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/iPhone/iPhone_Consumer.pdf

[brkirch]

Sorry, I wasn't clear...

I *did* turn that switch on. And when I don't have Location Services turned on, and I go to Mail, Contacts, Calendars and my MM account, the Find My iPhone option is grayed out.

So just now I triple-checked to be sure everything was turned on; Location Services on, Find My iPhone on, and I submit the following:


Thanks for your help on this. Yes, I can wait until the 17th and do it "legitimately," so not a big deal...am just baffled as to why it's not functioning.

You probably don't have push turned on. Go to http://www.apple.com/mobileme/whats-new/ and click on the QuickTour link to see a video about enabling and using the Find My iPhone feature.

[BearsFan34]

You probably don't have push turned on. Go to http://www.apple.com/mobileme/whats-new/ and click on the QuickTour link to see a video about enabling and using the Find My iPhone feature.

Thank you...that was the missing piece, having Push turned ON.

It works...but, gotta say...

I will rarely, if EVER, use this. Talk about a battery drain!

--Location Services ON
--MobileMe setting ON
--3G data signal ON
--Push ON

Wow.

Great feature, but may only use it when I know I'll have a rechargeable power source nearby.

[sblasl]

What is the blue colored Phone icon located just left of the battery indicator on the top right of the screen?

[sphoenix]

What is the blue colored Phone icon located just left of the battery indicator on the top right of the screen?Screenie?

[nagromme]

Thank you...that was the missing piece, having Push turned ON.

It works...but, gotta say...

I will rarely, if EVER, use this. Talk about a battery drain!

--Location Services ON
--MobileMe setting ON
--3G data signal ON
--Push ON

Wow.

Great feature, but may only use it when I know I'll have a rechargeable power source nearby.

Push (and Mobile Me) don't use that much power, and Location Services doesn't except at the times you're using it.

[gdeusthewhizkid]

got my iphone working with the new 3.0 software.. sweet !!!!!!!!! wait i thought this was gonna have video record...?

[gdeusthewhizkid]

Research DFU mode. You can go back, but it will take some work.



thanks helped out a lot.....

[Le Big Mac]

:D

AT&T considers the MMS to be text even though it travels over the data connection. That way they don't require normal phone that can get MMS to have data plans. Of course that screws with those that do have data plans...


That makes some amount of sense . . . for people who don't have data plans.

Of course, I guess it make sense also because it allows AT&T to charge even more for service.

[gdeusthewhizkid]

Just do a google search and you will find what you are looking for. No need to ask for a link. Google is your best friend


your absolutely right... i googled it

[sblasl]

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?


attachmentid=176163&stc=1&d=1245102142Screenie?

[kdog0126]

With AT&T being at limited stock and us not knowing how many Apple will have. Does anyone have suggestions on a good time to camp out in line?

Also, I need to buy 2 phone for the wife and I (selling the current 3G), will they let me buy two for the $399 price (price the Apple/AT&T quoted me)? I thought heard at the AT&T store they were limiting it to one per household, does this apply to the Apple Store?

Thank in advance for any advice.

[Chris Welch]

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?


attachmentid=176163&stc=1&d=1245102142

Go into the options and turn off TTY.

[aardwolf]

With AT&T being at limited stock and us not knowing how many Apple will have. Does anyone have suggestions on a good time to camp out in line?

Also, I need to buy 2 phone for the wife and I (selling the current 3G), will they let me buy two for the $399 price (price the Apple/AT&T quoted me)? I thought heard at the AT&T store they were limiting it to one per household, does this apply to the Apple Store?

Thank in advance for any advice.

Just go to apple.com/store and order. When you get the choice to pick up at an apple store or have shipped, choose to have shipped. They're currently still delivering on Friday if purchased today (I did it this morning.)

[optophobia]

With AT&T being at limited stock and us not knowing how many Apple will have. Does anyone have suggestions on a good time to camp out in line?

Also, I need to buy 2 phone for the wife and I (selling the current 3G), will they let me buy two for the $399 price (price the Apple/AT&T quoted me)? I thought heard at the AT&T store they were limiting it to one per household, does this apply to the Apple Store?

Thank in advance for any advice.

I suggest getting in line this evening. I heard by morning tomorrow, they expect 100s to be in line already...

[optophobia]

Has anyone found on the Apple Servers the released 3.0 for the 3G? It's not posted ahead of schedule, is it?

Nevermind......I found my answer. :cool:

wow, "HERS" is a better macbook than yours..... OUCH.

[sblasl]

Thank you!! Software 3.0 on 1st G iPhone turned it on. Never had it on before. When I updated my Wife's iPhone that did not occur.

Go into the options and turn off TTY.

[BLOND37]

I suggest getting in line this evening. I heard by morning tomorrow, they expect 100s to be in line already...

where's this?

[Juggernaut510]

Sorry but if you already have an IPHONE 3G and are planning to get in line for 3 days you really have to wonder what kind of life you are living.

[iphones4evry1]

Does anyone know what time of the morning Apple is going to begin allowing users to download the 3.0 iPhone update ? What have they done in the past?
If I stay up, will I be able to download it at 12:01am ?

[war eagle]

Nope... more than likely that morning after breakfast.

[scottlinux]

Here you go:

"Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16"

[terrywfoster]

http://www.vulomedia.com/images/56253IMG_0174.png



I have 3.0 (7A341) on a 3G. How do I get the notification to appear below the wireless to appear on my phone like the above screen cap? I have read these posts and can not find how.

[Branskins]

http://www.vulomedia.com/images/56253IMG_0174.png



I have 3.0 (7A341) on a 3G. How do I get the notification to appear below the wireless to appear on my phone like the above screen cap? I have read these posts and can not find how.

I believe you need an app that uses push.

[terrywfoster]

I believe you need an app that uses push.

thanks

[Pooshka]

Does anyone know what time of the morning Apple is going to begin allowing users to download the 3.0 iPhone update ? What have they done in the past?
If I stay up, will I be able to download it at 12:01am ?
The download will be available around the end of the workday.

[Branskins]

The download will be available around the end of the workday.

Seriously? Why would they wait until so late in the day? That would be like 7pm eastern!

[Chris Welch]

The download will be available around the end of the workday.

Why would you spread your opinion like it's some kind of fact?

No one knows when the download will be available. Asking is pointless, folks.

[SpaceKitty]

Seriously? Why would they wait until so late in the day? That would be like 7pm eastern!

There was one update that was released shortly after midnight or 2AM EST. They can come at anytime with Apple.

[DaveWonders]

I want to pull the trigger and upgrade my 2G to a 3GS but one thing is stopping me...Those pesky rumors of a reduced data plan with a possibly lower data cap. I wish they would come out and flat out deny that because once you sign your 2 year contract to get the phone you pretty much would be screwed in trying to get the lower priced plan right? Also they better not include some incentive for signing a contract and adding tethering when they come up with those price points.

[JasonHoughton]

99% of all questions in this post can be answered by visiting apple.com. some just plain common sense.

[Willis]

got my iphone working with the new 3.0 software.. sweet !!!!!!!!! wait i thought this was gonna have video record...?

Video Recording is only on the 3GS as it has a camera to support it

[CharlesInCharge]

I want to pull the trigger and upgrade my 2G to a 3GS but one thing is stopping me...Those pesky rumors of a reduced data plan with a possibly lower data cap. I wish they would come out and flat out deny that because once you sign your 2 year contract to get the phone you pretty much would be screwed in trying to get the lower priced plan right? Also they better not include some incentive for signing a contract and adding tethering when they come up with those price points.

Honestly the unlimited data plan is not that expensive, especially considering the competition. I think tethering will be in a price scheme similar to text messages - separate from the data plan. I wouldn't worry about it - incentives will only show up once AT&T loses exclusivity, which won't happen for a couple of years.

[cammoattard]

This is crap. OS 3.0 has been delayed an extra day in Australia :mad: It is now being released June 18th. :mad::mad::mad::mad: argh!

According to Apple Australia's website.
I hope this is a typo!!!

[NightStorm]

I want to pull the trigger and upgrade my 2G to a 3GS but one thing is stopping me...Those pesky rumors of a reduced data plan with a possibly lower data cap. I wish they would come out and flat out deny that because once you sign your 2 year contract to get the phone you pretty much would be screwed in trying to get the lower priced plan right? Also they better not include some incentive for signing a contract and adding tethering when they come up with those price points.

You can modify your rate plan at anytime via the AT&T website without modifying the term of your contract.

[Nicky G]

I set up CalDAV syncing w/ Google Calendar, for like 7 different calendars (only not excruciating because of copy and paste, heheh!)

And, well -- it works!

It's only unidirectional -- it only pulls calendars from the server, you cannot edit events or create new ones on the phone, and push those updates to Google. :-(

However, it's a start! Not sure if I'll use this, or the web-based front end that Google's been providing for a while. Hmmm.

Copy and paste does work very well though. :-D

---
EDIT:

OK, so I decided to look at the iPhone-optimized web front end, which I haven't really looked at for months. This is the one via www.google.com and signing in, not calendar.google.com. Anyway, it's way better than I thought, and you can edit events to your heart's content. So much for the iPhone-native calendar app. Apple provides! :-P

[PurrBall]

I set up CalDAV syncing w/ Google Calendar, for like 7 different calendars (only not excruciating because of copy and paste, heheh!)

And, well -- it works!

It's only unidirectional -- it only pulls calendars from the server, you cannot edit events or create new ones on the phone, and push those updates to Google. :-(

However, it's a start! Not sure if I'll use this, or the web-based front end that Google's been providing for a while. Hmmm.

Copy and paste does work very well though. :-D
You can set up a push account with m.google.com in order to get full calendar support with push.

[Cap41]

Video Recording is only on the 3GS as it has a camera to support it


Jailbreak and you can add that feature

[jb60606]

All I want is the ability to send email from a MobileMe alias on my iPhone. I can do it from Mail -- why can't I do it from the iPhone? According to Apple support, this will not be a feature in 3.0 - I'm bummed.


postscript
Support for my subscription calendars in iCal would be nice as well (I think that this is being addressed?)

[Nicky G]

You can set up a push account with m.google.com in order to get full calendar support with push.

You mean two-way? Or just server push to iPhone?
---
EDIT: Never mind, I looked, but I really only want to sync calendars, not contacts... it appears this prevents you from using OS X's Address Book as your contacts app?

[dasmb]

This is crap. OS 3.0 has been delayed an extra day in Australia :mad: It is now being released June 18th. :mad::mad::mad::mad: argh!

According to Apple Australia's website.
I hope this is a typo!!!

Hey, math time!

Apple: homed in Cupertino, California. They use Pacific Standard Time.

9 am PST on Wednesday, June 17 is what time in Western Australia?

2 am -- June 18th.

You must be new to the area.

[iMaggot]

I just hope it all goes well tomorrow.

[iphones4evry1]

Copy and paste does work very well though. :-D

How does the clipboard work? If you copy something and click the top button on your phone (sleep), will the copy remain on the clipboard. If I copy "I love porn" and click my phone on sleep and someone else picks up my phone and clicks "paste," will the text still be there? Also, once you paste something does it take it off of the clipboard, or can you paste it ten times and it stays until you reboot? (like a computer)
Thank you in advance for your response. :)

Hey, math time!
Apple: homed in Cupertino, California. They use Pacific Standard Time.
9 am PST on Wednesday, June 17 is what time in Western Australia?
2 am -- June 18th.
You must be new to the area.

When they released the iPhone3G and the 2.0 Firmware, you guys got it first. I remember because I didn't sleep that night. I was on MacRumors, and you guys got it first, then each time zone got it, and then we got it here in America. iTunes released it to different time zones, BUT I remember that some people were reporting that they changed the time/clock on their computers and it fooled iTunes and let them download it. I didn't do that so I don't know if it really worked, but I remember a bunch of people said they did it.

[Chundles]

How does the clipboard work? If you copy something and click the top button on your phone (sleep), will the copy remain on the clipboard. If I copy "I love porn" and click my phone on sleep and someone else picks up my phone and clicks "paste," will the text still be there? Also, once you paste something does it take it off of the clipboard, or can you paste it ten times and it stays until you reboot? (like a computer)
Thank you in advance for your response. :)



When they released the iPhone3G and the 2.0 Firmware, you guys got it first. I remember because I didn't sleep that night. I was on MacRumors, and you guys got it first, then each time zone got it, and then we got it here in America. iTunes released it to different time zones, BUT I remember that some people were reporting that they changed the time/clock on their computers and it fooled iTunes and let them download it. I didn't do that so I don't know if it really worked, but I remember a bunch of people said they did it.

Yes but last time the iPhone was released in 25 countries that spanned the globe. This time it's a more focussed release and as such they don't need to do a staggered roll out. It'll pop out of Cupertino in one fell swoop.

[imcquill]

All I want is the ability to send email from a MobileMe alias on my iPhone. I can do it from Mail -- why can't I do it from the iPhone? According to Apple support, this will not be a feature in 3.0 - I'm bummed.


You can hack that together using this trick:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080720093316215

[Nicky G]

How does the clipboard work? If you copy something and click the top button on your phone (sleep), will the copy remain on the clipboard. If I copy "I love porn" and click my phone on sleep and someone else picks up my phone and clicks "paste," will the text still be there? Also, once you paste something does it take it off of the clipboard, or can you paste it ten times and it stays until you reboot? (like a computer)
Thank you in advance for your response. :)

Yes, copied items are preserved via sleep. Not sure about power down, but I had some stuff copied before I went to bed, iPhone was in sleep all night, and yes, it's still here in the morning. And yes, you can paste as many times as you want. :-)

So be careful of the naughty stuff you copy! Hey, you said it! ;-)

[gdeusthewhizkid]

Sorry but if you already have an IPHONE 3G and are planning to get in line for 3 days you really have to wonder what kind of life you are living.


now that is hilarious. I just need the gigs for tv shows and want that vid but i will not camp out for the phone.....

[gdeusthewhizkid]

Video Recording is only on the 3GS as it has a camera to support it


whoops figured that out last night. oh well...

[jamest71]

What advice do previous first day buyers have?
I was told at my local Apple store that they open at 8 but I should probably be there around 6 am to get in the front of the line.
I've never been one to wait in lines. I'm going to give in this time since I've waited this long to leave Tmobile and get an iphone.

Also, anyone know what info I need to transfer my # from tmobile to Att?

[binaryskies]

What advice do previous first day buyers have?
I was told at my local Apple store that they open at 8 but I should probably be there around 6 am to get in the front of the line.
I've never been one to wait in lines. I'm going to give in this time since I've waited this long to leave Tmobile and get an iphone.

Also, anyone know what info I need to transfer my # from tmobile to Att?

Well, I made the switch from Verizon last year for the 3G iPhone. I arrived at the mall at 8:30am and was number 235 in line. I spend 7 hours and some change standing in line (some people were kind enough to lend me a lawn chair.. haha) so be prepared to stand and wait for a while if you arrive late. If you arrive at 6am I doubt you will have to wait long. The people at the apple store switched the numbers with no problem and told me that I may have to wait an hour or so before being able to use it, but this wasn't the case. I was on the phone talking before I was even out of the mall. Just make sure to bring a credit card, because you MUST have one (or a prepaid visa card.. which is what I used. I hate credit cards) to sign up for AT&T.

Let me know how you like it!

---

Second thing.. Got OS 3.0 from pb and I love it. The vertical keyboard while texting is a godsend. :D Installed perfectly and had no problems

[Willis]

What advice do previous first day buyers have?
I was told at my local Apple store that they open at 8 but I should probably be there around 6 am to get in the front of the line.
I've never been one to wait in lines. I'm going to give in this time since I've waited this long to leave Tmobile and get an iphone.

Also, anyone know what info I need to transfer my # from tmobile to Att?

I'd start at 5 to be on the safe side. Just sit in the car if there isnt a queue and just join the masses of people as they flood in. =)

To port your number from T-mobile to ATT, you will need a PAC (port authorisation code) which you need to ask T-Mobile for. It last's for 30 days so you'll be fine.

[room237]

I'm on the East Coast, would be great to upgrade to 3.0 before I leave for work in the morning.

edit:
sorry, just found previous posts.

[davidbrummy]

Amazed at people who are playing to queue to get the new phone. Especially if you have a 3G phone already. I suppose what ever rocks you boat.

I am looking forward to 3.0. Finally cut n paste and proper search.

BTW if you are porting in from another carrier go to an AT&T store not an Apple Store. A few days before my contract expired with Sprint I asked in the Apple store which is better as I wanted to port over two lines. The person said go to the AT&T store. I did on a Saturday morning and was in and out in 15 mins.

[binaryskies]

I guess the process is a little different then last year..

I was next to a couple people who were switching from Verizon and all we had to do is give them our number and they ported it over for us (at the apple store).

[mayer27]

I am getting my iphone 3gs on friday and I need to know if it has the new 3.0 firmware pre-installed or if I need to install it when I get it? Can anyone help me? Thanks!:)

[bytethese]

I am getting my iphone 3gs on friday and I need to know if it has the new 3.0 firmware pre-installed or if I need to install it when I get it? Can anyone help me? Thanks!:)

iPhone OS 3.0 ships tomorrow, new iPhones on Friday. I give you one guess. :)

[jb60606]

You can hack that together using this trick:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080720093316215

imcquill, thanks for this. Works perfectly.

One downside is that, at least in Microsoft Outlook, the "From" address displays as:

First Last [name@gmail.com] on behalf of First Last [name.me.com]

Even so, this is a lot better than my silly root MobileMe email address being sent to professional contacts. Not a deal breaker.

[jamest71]

Just make sure to bring a credit card, because you MUST have one (or a prepaid visa card.. which is what I used. I hate credit cards) to sign up for AT&T.

Glad you mentioned the credit card! I actually don't have one. I just checked my Apple email about my next steps in picking up my iPhone. It clearly states credit or debit cards are accepted. Considering you mentioned it, I will call and verify with the Apple store tomorrow.

thanks to those with answers to my questions!
jt

[binaryskies]

Glad you mentioned the credit card! I actually don't have one. I just checked my Apple email about my next steps in picking up my iPhone. It clearly states credit or debit cards are accepted. Considering you mentioned it, I will call and verify with the Apple store tomorrow.

thanks to those with answers to my questions!
jt

Yeah, that was the one thing I was worried about last year. One guy in line suggested that I go get a prepaid visa card with the activation fee ($50.00) because that's the only reason they need it. So I went and did that. Registered it to my address and it worked. You have to make sure you register it to your address, otherwise it won't work. Also, apple let's people buy gift cards for the amount of the phone as a loophole for not having a credit card. Hope this helps. Best of luck!

[coledog]

To those who have installed 3.0 already from a GoldMaster ispw:

Are you having issues with your, i guess, proximity sensor not always seeing that your face is right next to the phone and therefore hitting buttons like hold and keypad or end call?

I'll admit that I recently dropped my phone in the water but it was working perfectly under 2.2 and since the upgrade hasn't been so swell...

[imcquill]

imcquill, thanks for this. Works perfectly.

One downside is that, at least in Microsoft Outlook, the "From" address displays as:


Yes, I've heard it displays it like that in Outlook. In Mail.app on the mac, it just displays the from address. Either case, that was good enough for me. I've been using the trick reliably for a year.