Why I LOVE my Air .... STAND UP to the recent "Air Bashers" (and make them go away !)

[entatlrg]

Since the MBA section has turned into an "air bashing" place, I thought this would be the perfect thread to re-introduce....

it's not written by me, it does sum up what the MBA really is; enjoy >>

Why I love my Air (link to original post - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=706420&highlight=iphone+blackberry+email)

I recently purchased a Rev B SSD Air to replace my stolen Rev A SSD.

I love it.

I have a Mac Pro as my main computer and I have owned Mac Book and Mac Book Pros in both 15" and 17" but the Air suits me best. I have also tried an Asus Eee 10".

Does my Air have 'lines'. I don't know to be honest. If I look really hard I can see some grain but this is one of the best screens I have had. I sent my MacBook Unibody back after one day because the screen was so bad. The Air looks fine to me.

My Air is so light I can easily carry it around in one hand with a pinch grip. I use it around the house, on the couch, in bed and outside. I move it a lot. Being thin makes it easier to carry than the Eeee PC. It slide into my backpack with my camera and other stuff and I take it with me everywhere. The size of it is perfect. A screen you can actually see and a keyboard you can really use yet still light as most netbooks.

It syncs with my mail etc with Mobile Me and files with my Mac Pro and I can even use Back to My Mac to control the big machine.

Last night I watched the Monaco GP in bed on it, streamed off the net. It coped well.

I have tried all of the above with every other Mac and a couple of NetBooks. None of them are as good as an Air.

Too much Air hating in here. If you think an Air will do what you want then get one.

[haoqfu]

Since the MBA section has turned into an "air bashing" group led my dreamers, OCD'ers, speculators, whiners, complainers and last but not least, "elitists" without a sense of 'reality' I thought this would be the perfect thread to re-introduce....

it's not written by me, it does sum up what the MBA really is; enjoy >>

Why I love my Air (link to original post - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=706420&highlight=iphone+blackberry+email)

I recently purchased a Rev B SSD Air to replace my stolen Rev A SSD.

I love it.

I have a Mac Pro as my main computer and I have owned Mac Book and Mac Book Pros in both 15" and 17" but the Air suits me best. I have also tried an Asus Eee 10".

Does my Air have 'lines'. I don't know to be honest. If I look really hard I can see some grain but this is one of the best screens I have had. I sent my MacBook Unibody back after one day because the screen was so bad. The Air looks fine to me.

My Air is so light I can easily carry it around in one hand with a pinch grip. I use it around the house, on the couch, in bed and outside. I move it a lot. Being thin makes it easier to carry than the Eeee PC. It slide into my backpack with my camera and other stuff and I take it with me everywhere. The size of it is perfect. A screen you can actually see and a keyboard you can really use yet still light as most netbooks.

It syncs with my mail etc with Mobile Me and files with my Mac Pro and I can even use Back to My Mac to control the big machine.

Last night I watched the Monaco GP in bed on it, streamed off the net. It coped well.

I have tried all of the above with every other Mac and a couple of NetBooks. None of them are as good as an Air.

Too much Air hating in here. If you think an Air will do what you want then get one.

no need to open a thread for those bashers. they are bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact.

[spillproof]

The Air is a really nice computer, I wanted one, but then I realized it can't be my only computer. I needed more than 1 usb and a CD/DVD drive for college. Maybe when I graduate and start working, it can be my notebook to travel to and from the office.

[mcpryon2]

As a lifetime Yankees fans I will just say that if you like it, you like it, and people WILL disagree.

[eVolcre]

no need to open a thread for those bashers. they are bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact.

Bollocks. I could afford to buy my Air and yours too if I wish, but I choose not to at the moment. Lets not relate bashing and income please.

Take a play out of Scottsdale's book and be mature

eV

[haoqfu]

Bollocks. I could afford to buy my Air and yours too if I wish, but I choose not to at the moment. Lets not relate bashing and income please.

Take a play out of Scottsdale's book and be mature

eV

i'm just telling the truth, just not everyone is realizing it. if mba was $500, nobody will be bashing it.

[pesc]

if mba was $500, nobody will be bashing it.

No, but I wouldn't be buying it and I would be bashing Apple for not building a premium powerful ultralight small laptop.

[chrono1081]

I have to agree that a lot of bashing does come because of price.


Also I've noticed pretty much every basher does not own one. It seems like the people who own it really really love it and they've bought it because they want it for internet, email, general use.

Some people have naturally bought it for looks (I've been tempted but I know its not for me I need a mac pro :/) only to be disappointed when it doesn't play the latest and greatest games at full settings but that's on them for not doing research.

Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase OP. I can't wait to see an Air in real life :)

[haoqfu]

No, but I wouldn't be buying it and I would be bashing Apple for not building a premium powerful ultralight small laptop.

lots of bashers here complaining simply b/c of the price label, it might not include you, but there are considerable amount.

if mba costs cheap enuff, say 1% of your monthly income, i bet lots of bashers here will just shut up. it's just simple fact and i m amazed by the ability that ppl are able to lie to themselves.

i'm not saying i'm rich, i'm just stating the truth.

[Gruber]

Let's get this out of the way first: The Air is a nice machine. Sleek, well-built (despite the hinge problem), and well-specced (despite the lack of RAM). More than ample power for Office work, Photoshopping and occassional coding. Great keyboard, and decent screen (Mushy, coarse, and unevenly lit compared to the Vaio TT, but so what). And it is cheaper than the immediate competition (Vaio TT, Dell Adamo, Lenovo). And it runs MacOS...

The Air is just not what I need. I need an ultraportable machine to work with. I want it to run MacOS, because I do not want to be bothered with Anti-Virus software, annoying Vista behaviors and updates every other day. I do not want to make compromises: my computer needs to be as light as reasonably possible, should run as long as possible without recharging, should not lag during starting programs, switching applications etc. It should have a high-res screen that is readable outdoors. It should have an amazing keyboard. It should plug into a projector at conferences without clunky adaptors. I should be able to connect an USB memory stick, a mouse and an external hd for backups, so ideally, it should have at least 3 USB ports, or 2 USB ports and a firewire port.

I am among the gazillion Mac users who wait for a successor to the 12in Powerbook. The Air ain't it. The Air has not been designed around its function, but around the attempt to impress fashionistas with a glitzy piece of squashed roadkill. The Air compromises on functionality not as a tradeoff for other functionality, but only for ******ry, erm, looks. I am not in the market for a fashion statement, but for a lightweight, fast computer! (Also, I am a little ashamed to be seen with the Air outside, because I am not a pimp, but simply some working with a light, compact, practical computer.)

Personally, I really do not care much for the looks of the Air. I do not need a screen bezel that is wide enough to act as a toilet seat. I do not need unused space left and right of my keyboard to place cups on. I do not need corners that are sharp enough to cut bread, or to cut into my wrists while I am typing. I do not need a stupid retractable landing gear flap to hide a single pathetic USB port that is so much receded that half of my peripherals do not fit. I have no use for the most proprietary display ports in the whole world, and then to shell out 99$(!) for a clunky adaptor. I do not care for the cW value; I want timeless and useful industrial design.

Again, the Air as such is quite an ok laptop. But I do not want it, and it is blocking the ultraportable slot in Apple's portfolio. I want a light 11inch unibody Mac without spindles. (And I am willing to pay for it!)

[yoppie]

I agree that there are a lot of price bashers but I'm not so sure it's because they can't afford an Air, more so they think it's not worth the value it's priced at - they can get a "better" mac for a little less or a little more.

There are bashers for every mac computer out there, if it's not price, it's graphics card, screen size, screen quality, weight, etc. Heck, just being a mac is enough to be bashed. I say get what you want and be happy with it, everyone is not going to like everything so stop looking for that to happen.

[haoqfu]

I agree that there are a lot of price bashers but I'm not so sure it's because they can't afford an Air, more so they think it's not worth the value it's priced at - they can get a "better" mac for a little less or a little more.

i agree. it's not b/c they can't afford, it's b/c they think it's not worth the value. and sadly, it goes back to the fact that they are not rich enuff. if sb. is truly rich, he won't complain abt if sth. is worth of the price or not, right?

[belvdr]

no need to open a thread for those bashers. they are bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact.

i agree. it's not b/c they can't afford, it's b/c they think it's not worth the value.

You're all over the place. First you say they can't afford it, then you say no, it's because they don't see value, and then...

and sadly, it goes back to the fact that they are not rich enuff. and don't get me wrong again, i'm not saying i'm rich.

Ok, so once again you're saying they cannot afford it. Nobody is concerned with your finances. They seemed to be concerned with the fact that you are grouping all people who dislike the Air into one group that has no money (i.e. cannot afford it).

[yoppie]

i agree. it's not b/c they can't afford, it's b/c they think it's not worth the value. and sadly, it goes back to the fact that they are not rich enuff. and don't get me wrong again, i'm not saying i'm rich.

I don't think I'm making the same statement as you are but if you feel comfortable saying that, I'll let you. Being rich enough to afford an Air doesn't mean you buy an Air. The Air isn't even the most expensive mac notebook.

[haoqfu]

You're all over the place. First you say they can't afford it, then you say no, it's because they don't see value, and then...



Ok, so once again you're saying they cannot afford it. Nobody is concerned with your finances. They seemed to be concerned with the fact that you are grouping all people who dislike the Air into one group that has no money (i.e. cannot afford it).

apparently, u need to take some logical courses.

as i said, only ppl who are not rich enuff will care about the value when it comes to purchasing.

Being rich enough to afford an Air doesn't mean you buy an Air.

agree. i'm just saying being rich enuff will not care about the value so much.

[yoppie]

agree. i'm just saying being rich enuff will not care about the value so much.

So are you saying that all rich people just buy stuff to spend money. It doesn't matter if they don't like it or if it doesn't fit what they need. The Air is it! :confused: Someone needs to send out a public announcement, a lot of people aren't living up to this logic you've put forth.

I'm just trying to understand what you're saying. If Sam Walton or any of those people on the richest people list came out and said the Air sucks, what would there reason be? They're not rich enough??? Of course not.

You're pigeonholing people into one big basket and it's not that simple.

ETA: Believe it or not, rich people do care about value. It's how they hold onto/make money. It's the pretenders who throw away their money (I'm not suggesting Air owners are pretenders). Some of the richest people are some of the cheapest people around.

[belvdr]

if sb. is truly rich, he won't complain abt if sth. is worth of the price or not, right?

I need logic courses? Anyone who buys something without considering the value of it is nothing more than an impulse buyer.

Let's say you have $30,000 cash laying around for a car. Do you buy the first car you see, without considering if it has the features you need and want? No, you don't, because you want the best value for your money. The same logic applies to any purchase.

[aleksandra.]

The Air is just not what I need. I need an ultraportable machine to work with. I want it to run MacOS, because I do not want to be bothered with Anti-Virus software, annoying Vista behaviors and updates every other day. I do not want to make compromises: my computer needs to be as light as reasonably possible, should run as long as possible without recharging, should not lag during starting programs, switching applications etc. It should have a high-res screen that is readable outdoors. It should have an amazing keyboard. It should plug into a projector at conferences without clunky adaptors. I should be able to connect an USB memory stick, a mouse and an external hd for backups, so ideally, it should have at least 3 USB ports, or 2 USB ports and a firewire port.

I am among the gazillion Mac users who wait for a successor to the 12in Powerbook. The Air ain't it. The Air has not been designed around its function, but around the attempt to impress fashionistas with a glitzy piece of squashed roadkill. The Air compromises on functionality not as a tradeoff for other functionality, but only for ******ry, erm, looks. I am not in the market for a fashion statement, but for a lightweight, fast computer! (Also, I am a little ashamed to be seen with the Air outside, because I am not a pimp, but simply some working with a light, compact, practical computer.)

Personally, I really do not care much for the looks of the Air. I do not need a screen bezel that is wide enough to act as a toilet seat. I do not need unused space left and right of my keyboard to place cups on. I do not need corners that are sharp enough to cut bread, or to cut into my wrists while I am typing. I do not need a stupid retractable landing gear flap to hide a single pathetic USB port that is so much receded that half of my peripherals do not fit. I have no use for the most proprietary display ports in the whole world, and then to shell out 99$(!) for a clunky adaptor. I do not care for the cW value; I want timeless and useful industrial design.

Again, the Air as such is quite an ok laptop. But I do not want it, and it is blocking the ultraportable slot in Apple's portfolio. (...)

So is it "quite an ok laptop", or a fashion accessory? Make up your mind please. No need to insult everyone who has different needs just because Apple won't give you what you want.

[haoqfu]

So are you saying that all rich people just buy stuff to spend money. It doesn't matter if they don't like it or if it doesn't fit what they need. The Air is it! :confused: Someone needs to send out a public announcement, a lot of people aren't living up to this logic you've put forth.

lemme just ask you one simple question, if mba only costs $1 to you, would you be buying it? just answer the question and do not lie to yourself.

if u can give a firm answer no, then you are not in the group of majority bashers here who are bashing b/c of price.

[darrellishere]

If you buy a macbook air off ebay like I did, then you end up saving yourself allot of money and it dose seem like good value! Also you can sell it for almost the same price you paid for it! Considering I'm on this little baby most of the time, the value and productivity is huge!

Its light comfortable to use, and indispensable. Mind you the screens on the new macbook are gorgeous! GRRR!

That laptops just a little too heavy for me , but I would like to test drive it!

I can even edit my aperture library located on my ssd mac mini!

& accesses all my Mini's files/Movies and Music! The invisible umbilical cord. Booth serve their different prepossess!

You cannot bash the Air now that the prices have fallen and you look and hold the competitions efforts.

[haoqfu]

I need logic courses? Anyone who buys something without considering the value of it is nothing more than an impulse buyer.

Let's say you have $30,000 cash laying around for a car. Do you buy the first car you see, without considering if it has the features you need and want? No, you don't, because you want the best value for your money. The same logic applies to any purchase.

if i have $30k budget for a car, of course i won't buy the first car i see. but if i have 3 billion in my account, i might just buy any car i first see :rolleyes:

[yoppie]

lemme just ask you one simple question, if mba only costs $1 to you, would you be buying it? just answer the question and do not lie to yourself.

if u can give a firm answer no, then you are not in the group of majority bashers here who are bashing b/c of price.

If the Air was $1, I would buy it. That's because the perceived value of the Air is more than $1. That's called a BARGAIN. It's not that I (or someone else) can't afford it at $1499, it's that I think there's better out there for that price. Being rich does not mean you pay at any price. That's called being stupid. Again, I'm not saying Air owners are stupid. I'm just saying there are people out there who don't think it's worth it's price.

[belvdr]

lemme just ask you one simple question, if mba only costs $1 to you, would you be buying it? just answer the question and do not lie to yourself.

if u can give a firm answer no, then you are not in the group of majority bashers here who are bashing b/c of price.

But it doesn't cost $1. The problem with that question is that for $1, anything seems like a good value these days _and_ the fact the machine doesn't cost $1.

I know what you're trying to say, but given the current cost is at least $1,500 USD for the base Air, they can choose whether or not this machine is worth their money.

[yoppie]

if i have $30k budget for a car, of course i won't buy the first car i see. but if i have 3 billion in my account, i might just buy any car i first see :rolleyes:

That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying though is I won't pay Lamborghini money to own a donkey.

[Fizzoid]

apparently, u need to take some logical courses.

as i said, only ppl who are not rich enuff will care about the value when it comes to purchasing.
And it would seem you need some common sense courses. Just because people have money it doesn't make them stupid, which is what you seem to be implying. They're still as likely to assess whether a MBA is worth the money as someone who can only just afford a MBA

[belvdr]

if i have $30k budget for a car, of course i won't buy the first car i see. but if i have 3 billion in my account, i might just buy any car i first see :rolleyes:

Rolling your eyes doesn't make your point any better.

So, if you needed a car to haul a family of four, _and_ you had 3 billion dollars, _and_ your budget was $30,000, you would buy this?

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/2009fleetshowroom/2009-f350cc.asp

Likely not.

[Gruber]

So is it "quite an ok laptop", or a fashion accessory?

Both. The specs are ok, and it is well-built. I think that the design is overdone and sacrifices functionality. But this does not make the Air a bad laptop, hm?

Please take my gruff remarks in good humor. I am really fed up with people that tell me that the Air should be perfect for me, or that I should buy something even more bulky instead.

[jessica.]

Quite frankly I don't need to explain why I love what I love and I certainly don't need to explain my purchase (or defend it) to a bunch of 12-year olds, or people who think like a 12-year old (you know who you are).
The Air appeals to a market outside the obvious demographic. I was weary of the Air up until I purchased it and now that I have it, I cannot see myself moving away from it. Sure, I think about selling for a new unibody MBP (13") but then again I'm traveling this week and I couldn't be happier with my lightweight bag and even lighter Air. It does what I need it to do and I come home to my MP for the heavy lifting.

[haoqfu]

But it doesn't cost $1. The problem with that question is that for $1, anything seems like a good value these days _and_ the fact the machine doesn't cost $1.

I know what you're trying to say, but given the current cost is at least $1,500 USD for the base Air, they can choose whether or not this machine is worth their money.

:handshake: agree, just want to make my point understood, no harsh feeling here. i was simply tired of these ppl bashing air just b/c of the price label.

Rolling your eyes doesn't make your point any better.

So, if you needed a car to haul a family of four, _and_ you had 3 billion dollars, _and_ your budget was $30,000, you would buy this?

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/2009fleetshowroom/2009-f350cc.asp

Likely not.

well, is air that ugly to you? if it is, i will just shut up then.

[belvdr]

just b/c of the price label.

It's not the price, it is the perceived value (which is determined by each individual and people will disagree on this). There is a very distinct difference.

No harsh feelings here either.

well, is air that ugly to you? if it is, i will just shut up then.

Ha ha, not really, but now you're getting it. That vehicle is ugly indeed, so you're seeing the perceived value (aesthetics, features, etc), not just the price label. So if you had 3 billion dollars, you wouldn't buy the first thing you see. You would shop and see what fits your requirements, not just any old vehicle.

[yoppie]

well, is air that ugly to you? if it is, i will just shut up then.

Haoqfu, we're not saying the Air is ugly or that it isn't a nice machine. We're just saying not all Air bashers are out there counting their pennies. :p Everything isn't for everybody. Why can't people see that?

If you like it, great. If you don't, find something that suits you better. Why all the hostility (on both sides)?

Ha ha, not really, but now you're getting it. That vehicle is ugly indeed, so you're seeing the perceived value (aesthetics, features, etc), not just the price label. So if you had 3 billion dollars, you wouldn't buy the first thing you see. You would shop and see what fits your requirements, not just any old vehicle.

Bingo. Even with his 3 billion dollars, he didn't care enough to throw money at it.

[haoqfu]

Haoqfu, we're not saying the Air is ugly or that it isn't a nice machine. We're just saying not all Air bashers are out there counting their pennies. :p Everything isn't for everybody. Why can't people see that?

that's right. i'm not saying all air bashers are counting their pennies either. :)

[Veinticinco]

I guess school really is out for the summer judging by this thread - what a waste of bandwidth. Text-speak and affected misspelling ("enuff"? cringeworthy...) only make you look even stupider than the argument you're presenting.

For the record, I love the MBA, have owned both revisions (the last one but for a couple of weeks during which time I had THREE all unacceptable due to screen issues).

But I'd gladly buy another one tomorrow if it had just a couple of decent realistic hardware upgrades. Price is immaterial to me, and I'd have gladly sacrificed less of a price drop or none at all if it meant I could have those features.

How does that fit into your 8th grade theory then?

[hodgeheg]

no need to open a thread for those bashers. they are bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact.

Is pointing out a problem "bashing" ?

For everyone who is happy with their Air and thinks it will do what they want, wonderful- go buy one. I adored mine, for the three months before its hinges became so wobbly that it couldn't be used on the train, and I wouldn't have even minded that if Apple hadn't told me that it was intentional thus they wouldn't fix it.

None of these problems detract from the fact that if you get a perfect or near-perfect Air then you have a sublimely portable computer that is a joy to use and carry around, and super elegant, surprisingly powerful etc - if it meets your hardware needs (which it easily does mine). Noone I've seen, excepting the occasional troll, is disputing that for many people the Air is a great computing product/experience.

To assume that anyone who doesn't have or doesn't like the Air simply can't afford one is spectacular arrogance, but I shall end that particular bit of my troll feeding here.

It *is* a very nice computer, but that doesn't mean it's perfect. And just because some (or even many or even most) owners are overjoyed doesn't mean everyone else has to be. Plus there are some issues that are less to do with the Air than with Apple's attitude. I wonder if you'd be as blindly dismissive if you'd spent £1000-£2000 on a laptop that had one of the really bad screens, or wobbly hinges, or warped base, or poorly fitting body shell etc and someone came along and told you you were just 'bashing' and Apple is perfect.

I suspect some of the people you refer to as bashers are people who would really like to like the Air because on paper it looks perfect but have been bitterly disappointed with the experience - like me. If however you're talking about the occasional person who still pops up and says it's underpowered and not a proper computer (and disregards the needs of particular users), then I'd have to agree with you!

i'm just telling the truth, just not everyone is realizing it. if mba was $500, nobody will be bashing it.

Actually, I'd still consider the screen issues I've seen and the hinge issues I've seen unacceptable at $500, since I've never seen a $500 computer with those problems. Anyway, the Air *isn't* $500 is it? Is your point actually relevant at all? Your logic is like saying "Someone bought a $1000000 house and the windows don't fit properly. They shouldn't complain because if the house had been $500 they wouldn't be complaining."

I don't in anyway disgree with the original post, for the record. Just your comments.

I agree that there are a lot of price bashers but I'm not so sure it's because they can't afford an Air, more so they think it's not worth the value it's priced at - they can get a "better" mac for a little less or a little more.

There are bashers for every mac computer out there, if it's not price, it's graphics card, screen size, screen quality, weight, etc. Heck, just being a mac is enough to be bashed. I say get what you want and be happy with it, everyone is not going to like everything so stop looking for that to happen.

I have no problem with the Air's price, even before it got reduced. I have a problem with the build quality and service that I got, at any feasible price (i.e. not $1, obviously).

[belvdr]

Hodgeheg, FYI, there's a multi-quote option. Click the double quote symbol next to each post you wish to reply to, then click the Quote button.

[uberamd]

I am with the OP on this one. Lots of people bash the Air for a variety of reasons, but I personally love mine. I have the Rev A 1.6GHz 80GB model, and it is plenty snappy. Sure, its not as quick as my Macbook Pro 2.4GHz 4GB RAM, but it holds its own just fine. The screen? Pristine. The display on this thing is amazing. I get no lines, its instant on, bright, and looks fantastic.

Its light enough for me to bring to and from work without hardly noticing it is there, its light enough to have on my lap without noticing it is even on it, and its thin enough to turn heads when I use it. Overall, its a great machine. Mine does get very hot when doing video things such as Skype, but thats the only complaint I have.

[Syonidism]

i'd love it too if i gave that much money for it.

[Balthezor]

What is the point of this thread? Seems like everyone here is just angry and insulting each other.

[hodgeheg]

Hodgeheg, FYI, there's a multi-quote option. Click the double quote symbol next to each post you wish to reply to, then click the Quote button.

Ah, thanks!

[haoqfu]

Actually, I'd still consider the screen issues I've seen and the hinge issues I've seen unacceptable at $500, since I've never seen a $500 computer with those problems. Anyway, the Air *isn't* $500 is it? Is your point actually relevant at all? Your logic is like saying "Someone bought a $1000000 house and the windows don't fit properly. They shouldn't complain because if the house had been $500 they wouldn't be complaining."

obviously you are not getting my point, besides i have never had any problem with display nor the hinge. the display on my rev B was perfect, actually it was the best display i've ever got on a mac.

my point is lots of ppl bashing here are not b/c of the building quality of mba, but they thought it's overpriced for minor problems like lower spec, only one usb, slow charging.

[Syonidism]

What is the point of this thread? Seems like everyone here is just angry and insulting each other.

sometimes people need these kinds of ridiculus threads 4 steaming off.

[macjay]

i agree. it's not b/c they can't afford, it's b/c they think it's not worth the value. and sadly, it goes back to the fact that they are not rich enuff. if sb. is truly rich, he won't complain abt if sth. is worth of the price or not, right?

Not right.

Looking for value is not dependent on one's personal wealth.

Currently, the richest person in the world is Warren Buffett. He is a strict VALUE investor.

John Templeton, another billionaire and value investor, drove a Kia in the last few years of his life as he felt it was a great VALUE.

[haoqfu]

Not right.

Looking for value is not dependent on one's personal wealth.

Currently, the richest person in the world is Warren Buffett. He is a strict VALUE investor.

John Templeton, another billionaire and value investor, drove a Kia in the last few years of his life as he felt it was a great VALUE.

well. if you had the amount of Buffett's fortune, would you still be so picky about the mba's lower spec for $1499? meanwhile complaining that other similar products are $200 cheaper and they have 1GB more RAM, 200HZ faster cpus?

come on, let's be honest.

[Fizzoid]

well. if you had the amount of Buffett's fortune, would you still be so picky about the mba's lower spec for $1499?

come on, let's be honest.
Peoples' problem with the MBA isn't just the low spec though, is it?

[haoqfu]

Peoples' problem with the MBA isn't just the low spec though, is it?

right, but i've seen enough ppl complaining about the spec when it first came out. needless to say, not many of them even need a fast computer, they simply like everything to be best, fastest cpus, ssd blah blah

for those who suffer quality issues, they have every reason to complain.

[macjay]

well. if you had the amount of Buffett's fortune, would you still be so picky about the mba's lower spec for $1499? meanwhile complaining that other similar products are $200 cheaper and they have 1GB more RAM, 200HZ faster cpus?

come on, let's be honest.

Evidently, you'd like to believe that great personal wealth and value-seeking are inversely correlated.

You are free to believe whatever you wish, however I have already given two examples that disprove that assertion.

[Fizzoid]

those who suffer quality issues, they have every reason to complain. Ah, that's ok then, because we wouldn't want someone bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact. :rolleyes:

[haoqfu]

Evidently, you'd like to believe that great personal wealth and value-seeking are inversely correlated.

You are free to believe whatever you wish, however I have already given two examples that disprove that assertion.

ya, and u r missing at least another 80% of millionaires who wouldn't care about several hundred dollar of difference between mba and similar products.

[Mattie Num Nums]

my problem with the Air is I just don't get it. I mean are you really sacrificing THAT much carrying around a MBP 13" or 15".

Probably not.

I think the 13" MBP is absolutely perfect. Everyone wanted the 12" back but instead they got more than they could have asked for. The netbook would be the perfect compliment to Apple's arsenal currently, however the Air just stands out to me as out of place.

[Fizzoid]

ya, and u r missing at least another 80% of millionaires who wouldn't care about several hundred dollar of difference between mba and similar products.I presume you've asked this other 80% you're on about?

[Mattie Num Nums]

I presume you've asked this other 80% you're on about?

Most rich people I know (I work with actors and actresses on a daily basis) are tightwads. Just because you buy a huge house doesn't mean you need to drive a Ferrari. Look at Steve Jobs for example he drives a nice Mercedes but it not an SLR.

Edit. Fizz that was directed at haoqfu

[haoqfu]

I presume you've asked this other 80% you're on about?

no, i haven't. but i personally knew several who are. and nobody gave a **** about it.

[darrellishere]

The air throws away old notions of a computer.

It some how has redesigned what I expect in a laptop, I think its a game changer!

Thin light weight, more toy like, fun to use and using one make you feel like a million-air! ;)

One day soon all laptops will be like the Air!:D

[snowboarder]

I have tried to buy one since they came up.
First revision was a joke, could only cook some eggs on it, not much more.
2nd revision was quite good, but I was expecting the quick update
to 4GB RAM and a larger SSD so I waited.
Now I took another look at it. Spent some time in an Apple store 2 days ago
and to be honest, scratched it from my wish list completely.

[hodgeheg]

obviously you are not getting my point, besides i have never had any problem with display nor the hinge. the display on my rev B was perfect, actually it was the best display i've ever got on a mac.

my point is lots of ppl bashing here are not b/c of the building quality of mba, but they thought it's overpriced for minor problems like lower spec, only one usb, slow charging.

Then indeed I missed your point - apologies - it seemed like a long time since I'd read that particular "It's over priced/under-powered" complaint, which I agree is daft given that no competitor makes a 13" screen 1.3kg laptop with that much battery life that is as cheap. It is solely the quality I'm complaining about. Given a perfect Air I've no doubt it would have to be pried from my cold dead hands, but it's just not proved possible for me to get one! I'm really glad you did though!

[darrellishere]

It depends on what you want. I have a great desktop system, so the air is just the extra amazing mac toy for around the house and on days out in the park.

The point that everyones forgetting with the air is its supper light and thin! Its not designed to be a sole computer that ticks everyones boxes. Its bespoke, individual and tailored to those who appreciate form over function LOL!

[haoqfu]

Then indeed I missed your point - apologies - it seemed like a long time since I'd read that particular "It's over priced/under-powered" complaint, which I agree is daft given that no competitor makes a 13" screen 1.3kg laptop with that much battery life that is as cheap. It is solely the quality I'm complaining about. Given a perfect Air I've no doubt it would have to be pried from my cold dead hands, but it's just not proved possible for me to get one! I'm really glad you did though!

thx, i didn't suffer those quality problem as most here ppl do here. i totally understand if ppl were just complaining about the building quality, especially the hinge problem. customers absolutely deserve good quality products no matter how much they pay.

[darrellishere]

apple products are really easy to break! I remember snapping the screen off my T-i Book pushing the screen back LOL!

You have to treat the air like a baby otherwise it will break. Heavy handed-ness dose not go well with its fragility.

[Gruber]

You have to treat the air like a baby otherwise it will break. Heavy handed-ness dose not go well with its fragility.

That is not true for Apple products in general, and the resale-value reflects that. There are still many 12" powerbooks around (sniff). And many Air customers claim that the hinge did not break due to rough handling. (I think that it is forgivable if a new design has initial flaws, and Apple seems to be replacing most of the affected devices.)

[ppc750fx]

no competitor makes a 13" screen 1.3kg laptop with that much battery life that is as cheap.

You mean other than Lenovo, right?

[haoqfu]

You mean other than Lenovo, right?

no intention to start another argument, but lenovo is ****... thinkpad quality has gone down the drain ever since lenovo took it over. lenovo stopped paying the japanese lab to do the industrial design for thinkpad, and outsourced to a much cheaper team. you can tell the difference of design w/o even taking it apart...

no idea about its latest X series, x41 was the last x series i've used.

[hodgeheg]

You mean other than Lenovo, right?

Lenovo might now. I haven't checked recently to be honest, but last time I *did* check, which wasn't *that* long ago, none of Lenovo's offerings were as powerful, even at max spec, and the prices were higher even when going for lower spec (screen excluded, if you find 1440x900 appealing). I imagine lenovo have improved since then, but then again so have both the price and spec of the Air.

Don't get me wrong, there's all sorts of possible advantages to the X300 etc, but *when I last checked* it was not even close to comparable in CPU. It was the specific combination of price+power+battery life+weight that I hadn't seen anywhere else.

If this is no longer the case, then obviously I'm not going to argue the point if the facts are against me! However on a quick search I can't find a comparable lenovo (i.e. comparable in all those ways) - for example the X301 is substantially more expensive than the Air and appears to top out at a 1.4GHz ULV Core 2 Duo with 3MB cache, which is hardly comparable to the 2.13GHz Air with 6MB cache or even the 1.6GHz Rev B that I had, though they do offer 4GB RAM and more ports etc - it depends what you want it for. I also had the Adamo in mind, which manages to be heavier than a MacBook but slower than an Air, and more expensive, etc. Or again, at least it did last time I checked.

As for Lenovo's quality... I had a brand new T61 shortly before I bought my Air. It was vastly more powerful in terms of CPU etc, and ran dog slow by comparison. This is not even Microsoft's fault, afaict, by the way... a clean vista install fixed pretty much everything, but using Lenovo's install was just hideous. Aside from the fact their joyous security software managed to encrypt a load of my files with a username and password that didn't exist on the machine and which I never found (and it did this silently - I only realised when I attempted to restore from a backup), when I removed Lenovo's "helpful" wireless management front end I found that the time from power-on to full-desktop+connected to wireless dropped by 8 minutes. Yes, 8 minutes. That's how bad it was beforehand. It also had a buzzing backlight, and for all its obvious solidity I hated the keyboard.

One thing though, its hinges felt like they'd withstand a nuclear blast, whereas the Air's failed to last 3 months of light babying usage without developing 1 inch plus free play, thus wobbling around enough to make it unusable on a train for example.

I realise this isn't necessarily *standard*, and I don't think all Airs are like that (though there's no shortage of people unhappy with the hinges), but the ludicrous thing was that it was *Apple* who told me that all Airs *are* like that. They even insisted that they are like that new, despite my protestations that this couldn't be the case because my own hadn't been, and that it was intentional design hence they couldn't do anything about it. They stated point blank that it was not only impossible to tighten the hinges, but unnecessary. This was actually one of the least awful parts of my full customer service experience with my Air. Thus my problem is less with the Air (which in theory is my dream computer) than with Apple. By the way, I did write a complaint - they didn't even reply.

Thankfully (famous last words) my luck seems to have changed with the Toshiba I replaced the Air with. It's ace. But I watch the Air with interest. If they do something about the hinges and the screen lines on a future revision, and if I read fewer customer service horror stories, I *may* try again some day, though I would never buy from an Apple Store again.

[kingtj]

I took a good look at the Air, but it wasn't really for me. I've always owned at least 2 desktop systems that I use as my "primary" computers for gaming, Internet, photo storage and editing, music, etc. Then I've always tried to own as powerful a portable as possible to compliment them. In the past, I've taken my notebooks to LAN gaming parties, where I attached an external LCD display and mouse, as well as to hotels on vacation or business trips, and occasionally take it back and forth to my day job, so I can update our corporate web sites with it and the like. (I like the web tools I have on my Macs better than what we've got to work with in Windows at work.)

I'd never "bash" the Air. It's great for what it's for.... sort of a remote extension to a primary computer. (Lots of people wind up using their laptop primarily around the house, so they can watch a movie on it in bed, surf the web from their back porch or couch, etc. The Air seems well suited to those tasks. It's probably also fine for the person who travels a lot, and wants Apple quality in something as thin and light-weight as possible.)

Price *always* counts for something, but someone only attacking the product because they think it costs too much? That's usually going to be someone who isn't in the product's target market in the first place. They're likely the type who *really* wants a notebook as small and cheap as possible, regardless of quality and features. They're buying things like the $500 Asus or Dell netbooks, and saying "I'd consider the Air too, if it was in that same price range." Well, no kidding they would! They'd be getting a LOT more for their $500. But that's beside the point.



I have to agree that a lot of bashing does come because of price.

Also I've noticed pretty much every basher does not own one. It seems like the people who own it really really love it and they've bought it because they want it for internet, email, general use.

Some people have naturally bought it for looks (I've been tempted but I know its not for me I need a mac pro :/) only to be disappointed when it doesn't play the latest and greatest games at full settings but that's on them for not doing research.

Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase OP. I can't wait to see an Air in real life :)

[aleksandra.]

You mean other than Lenovo, right?

X301 is more expensive and less powerful. Air is actually a better value compared to it. Or any other 13", lighter than 1.5kg notebook I've seen.

[entatlrg]

Let's get this out of the way first: The Air is a nice machine. Sleek, well-built (despite the hinge problem), and well-specced (despite the lack of RAM). More than ample power for Office work, Photoshopping and occassional coding. Great keyboard, and decent screen (Mushy, coarse, and unevenly lit compared to the Vaio TT, but so what). And it is cheaper than the immediate competition (Vaio TT, Dell Adamo, Lenovo). And it runs MacOS...

The Air is just not what I need. I need an ultraportable machine to work with. I want it to run MacOS, because I do not want to be bothered with Anti-Virus software, annoying Vista behaviors and updates every other day. I do not want to make compromises: my computer needs to be as light as reasonably possible, should run as long as possible without recharging, should not lag during starting programs, switching applications etc. It should have a high-res screen that is readable outdoors. It should have an amazing keyboard. It should plug into a projector at conferences without clunky adaptors. I should be able to connect an USB memory stick, a mouse and an external hd for backups, so ideally, it should have at least 3 USB ports, or 2 USB ports and a firewire port.

I am among the gazillion Mac users who wait for a successor to the 12in Powerbook. The Air ain't it. The Air has not been designed around its function, but around the attempt to impress fashionistas with a glitzy piece of squashed roadkill. The Air compromises on functionality not as a tradeoff for other functionality, but only for ******ry, erm, looks. I am not in the market for a fashion statement, but for a lightweight, fast computer! (Also, I am a little ashamed to be seen with the Air outside, because I am not a pimp, but simply some working with a light, compact, practical computer.)

Personally, I really do not care much for the looks of the Air. I do not need a screen bezel that is wide enough to act as a toilet seat. I do not need unused space left and right of my keyboard to place cups on. I do not need corners that are sharp enough to cut bread, or to cut into my wrists while I am typing. I do not need a stupid retractable landing gear flap to hide a single pathetic USB port that is so much receded that half of my peripherals do not fit. I have no use for the most proprietary display ports in the whole world, and then to shell out 99$(!) for a clunky adaptor. I do not care for the cW value; I want timeless and useful industrial design.

Again, the Air as such is quite an ok laptop. But I do not want it, and it is blocking the ultraportable slot in Apple's portfolio. I want a light 11inch unibody Mac without spindles. (And I am willing to pay for it!)

Gruber, very well written. This was to be a thread for MBA 'Fans', but I'm very glad you posted your comments.

I agree with each an every one of them. Yet, I still love my Air. The exact reason why is this ..... It's thin and light with a decent screen and a fantastic full size keyboard, for the majority of my work, business app's, email, photoshop, light design/drawing software it works flawlessly. I enjoy using it on my lap, I have a 3G internet stick so I use it everywhere, traveling, couch, back yard, at the mother in laws ... it's "fun" to use, and since I have to spend a lot of time on a computer, fun to use is important.

Very honesty, it's smoother run and faster running than any comparable window's machine I've owned, and I've owned too many the x301, Sony Z, TT, LG P300 etc.


Like I said, your words are very well written so much so I wish an Exec at Apple would stumble upon them, think about what you wrote and DO something about it. It would be a mutual benefit, eh? The computer WE want, and lot's more PROFIT for Apple.

In thinking about this it baffles me why they don't make the notebook you described now. Why aren't they??

Lastly, the answer for your computing needs since you don't want the Air and the 12" Powerbook doesn't exist may be the 13" MBP. It may not 'sound' like the exact notebook you want, but it may be worth a shot trying it within the 14 return period. And, you may really like it!?

As you can see from my signature that's what I'm doing. I've have a 15" MacBook Pro and returned it the day after WWDC, it was to big/clunky/heavy to be "fun" to use everywhere.

So, the MBA having the shortcomings you mentioned even though I find the Air adequate for my work I like the SD slot, I'm curious to see if I'll notice the increased power and if it's worth the trade off for the weight difference. And then I'll decide on what is going to be my "main machine", I've used two computers and other than having a dedicated HTPC for movie downloads etc I like to use only one notebook, it's easy to be organized.

Long post I realize, but the topic is so interesting, Apple could end our wishing, whining and speculating and just produce the Computer so many people want. Why don't they, I can't understand it???

Maybe Steve Job's will make an announcement on his return about some new "Amazing Computer" that will satisfy us all. What's the odds of that:confused:

[entatlrg]

It depends on what you want. I have a great desktop system, so the air is just the extra amazing mac toy for around the house and on days out in the park.

The point that everyones forgetting with the air is its supper light and thin! Its not designed to be a sole computer that ticks everyones boxes. Its bespoke, individual and tailored to those who appreciate form over function LOL!

also, very well said!

[ppc750fx]

X301 is more expensive and less powerful. Air is actually a better value compared to it. Or any other 13", lighter than 1.5kg notebook I've seen.

I just compared the X200s with the MBA, and with the exception of it being a 12.1" screen, you can configure an identical machine for a little less than the cost of the MBA. The X200s, however, will have far more ports as well as a lighter total weight.

As for Lenovo's quality: it's still quite solid. The company I work for has deployed hundreds and hundreds of Lenovo-built ThinkPads, and the build quality is every bit as good as it was when the laptops carried an IBM badge. This makes sense, since Lenovo was doing the fab for IBM for years before they bought the division, and the same Raleigh, NC-based design team that designed the ThinkPads under IBM's ownership do the design for Lenovo.

I'm not saying that the MBA is inherently inferior, or anything like that... I'm just pointing out that Apple isn't the only player in the subportable market, and they're not a hands-down winner by any stretch of the imagination.

[aleksandra.]

I just compared the X200s with the MBA, and with the exception of it being a 12.1" screen, you can configure an identical machine for a little less than the cost of the MBA. The X200s, however, will have far more ports as well as a lighter total weight.

I'm not saying that the MBA is inherently inferior, or anything like that... I'm just pointing out that Apple isn't the only player in the subportable market, and they're not a hands-down winner by any stretch of the imagination.

X200 is smaller *and* heavier. X301 is in the same category. From Lenovo's site:

Introducing the X200 Tablet. See what's new:

Starting at just 3.5 lbs. Super light and ultraportable.


It's all a matter of priorities. I have researched alternatives (although it was a few months ago) and Air came out as a winner for me, even without considering OS X.

[niuniu]

I'm not rich but I buy a lot of expensive things. I gotta change that. :o

You and I both :mad:

[taphil]

X200 is smaller *and* heavier. X301 is in the same category. From Lenovo's site:
Why the heck are you comparing the X200 tablet?

These are the X200s weights:

4-cell battery starting at 1.10kg/2.43 lb
6-cell battery starting at 1.23kg/2.71 lb
9-cell battery starting at 1.39kg/3.05 lb

It also comes with a 1440x900 resolution display.

[entatlrg]

It depends on what you want. I have a great desktop system, so the air is just the extra amazing mac toy for around the house and on days out in the park.

The point that everyones forgetting with the air is its supper light and thin! Its not designed to be a sole computer that ticks everyones boxes. Its bespoke, individual and tailored to those who appreciate form over function LOL!

hey, what program is that on your screen with all post-it type looking notes?

[eVolcre]

hey, what program is that on your screen with all post-it type looking notes?

Stickies. I love it!

eV

[aleksandra.]

Why the heck are you comparing the X200 tablet?

These are the X200s weights:

4-cell battery starting at 1.10kg/2.43 lb
6-cell battery starting at 1.23kg/2.71 lb
9-cell battery starting at 1.39kg/3.05 lb

It also comes with a 1440x900 resolution display.

Because Lenovo's site has a broken search engine :P. Seriously I didn't notice. I never cared for 12" laptops (unless they've 4:3 screen ratio, which they usually don't).

I couldn't find any information about exact weight at Lenovo's site... but configuring the model you seem to be speaking about (the one with 1440x900 resolution and an option of 4-cell battery) to resemble Air as much as possible I get a price of over $1800. I would say the prices are similar - it's impossible to compare identical configurations, but I suspect they'd be priced very closely. Each has some advantage over the other.

I still think X301 is a better comparison. It's 13" at least.

(Yes, I really hate small screens. I've barely convinced myself 13" is enough.)

[173080]

I think the Air is a great computer. I own two. They're great to have around the house in case friend or guest needs a computer to check their email or type a document in Pages. They never fail to impress. My Airs have sold a few Macs on their own. :D

I didn't buy them for the specs, that's what my Macbook Pro and Xserves are for. I bought them because they're beautiful, and that to me has a lot of value.

[pro2010]

The MBA is pretty much for anybody. On a daily daily basis I only plug headphones and a monitor to my macbook. I seldom ever have 2 usb plugged it. My keyboard and mouth is bluetooth so I'm not usually using usb.

The only thing I ever use my USB for is memory devises like my iPod... CD drive...Is used so infrequently.

I'd be perfectly happy with an air, the features may be limited but the missing features isn't a commonality. I'm not bashing it, it would actually probably be good for me. It's just funny, not having a cd drive is a big deal to most.. I just don't think it's a daily or even weekly used feature. For me it's maybe a month.

[entatlrg]

The MBA is pretty much for anybody. On a daily daily basis I only plug headphones and a monitor to my macbook. I seldom ever have 2 usb plugged it. My keyboard and mouth is bluetooth so I'm not usually using usb.

The only thing I ever use my USB for is memory devises like my iPod... CD drive...Is used so infrequently.

I'd be perfectly happy with an air, the features may be limited but the missing features isn't a commonality. I'm not bashing it, it would actually probably be good for me. It's just funny, not having a cd drive is a big deal to most.. I just don't think it's a daily or even weekly used feature. For me it's maybe a month.

For sure, well said! Sometimes it's better and more fun to love it for what it is instead of criticize it for what is isn't.

[hodgeheg]

For sure, well said! Sometimes it's better and more fun to love it for what it is instead of criticize it for what is isn't.

I completely agree that it is pointless criticising the Air for what it isn't if it isn't *trying* to be that thing - so there's no point complaining it doesn't have 3 USB ports, a larger screen, DVD drive built in etc. That doesn't mean you have to like it, it just means it isn't for you. I don't think that should ban you from wishing for something slightly different, but basically, it's not a useful criticism.

As for criticisms that are about *quality* - i.e. about the Air failing to be what it is advertised as or can be reasonably expected to be based on its advertising/design/spec/price (here I'm thinking about hinges, screen lines etc), then if you have problems you have every right to complain. You also have every right to not care and still be happy, but not to deny everyone else's opinion about *Theirs*. Even still you may be a lot happier focusing on the good things - this is pretty much how I tried to look at the lines - OK I had annoying lines that reduced the apparent contrast, but I also had a gorgeously thin / light super-portable machine with decent battery life etc. But once other problems came up, and the lines appeared to get worse, why shouldn't I be unhappy? And just because for a while I felt I could live with the lines, why should everyone else also live with them?

NO amount of faulty or poorly built or otherwise bad MBAs in any way disputes your happiness with the Air you have. Noone is saying you shouldn't love your Air.

However, the existence of some or many (and it doesn't appear to be a majority based on my own checking of 4 Apple stores over a period of many months) GOOD Airs doesn't mean that those who aren't happy with *quality* (as opposed to its fundamental design choices) should be forced to keep quiet to massage the egos of people who *are* happy.

BOTH CAN EXIST IN THE SAME WORLD. Good Airs and Bad Airs. Nothing I or anyone else says denies your opinion about things you've actually observed.

And before I'm labelled a hater or whatever, I *AM* a MacBook Air fan. If I could FIND one that was as advertised it would be the most suitable computer in the world for me. It came quite close *Even with* its problems, until it started actually falling apart. I totally get why you love the Air - I would love one too. What I don't love is **** service and being effectively told to keep quiet and not rock the boat when things don't meet up with expecations. And no, my expectations are NOT unreasonably finicky - I only expect a screen that isn't WORSE than every single other laptop I can currently find on the market at any price. It doesn't have to be astounding. Just not actually BAD. Similarly, I don't expect a 3lb computer to have hinges like a 7lb 15" thinkpad, but I do expect it not to become unusable in 3 months, or at the very least to be treated with respect in store if it does develop a problem. Judging from some of your other posts, suggesting if people tilt the screen a tiny bit it will all go away, you seem to be under the impression that this is a minor issue. Maybe on the ones you see it is a minor issue, in which case good for you. But it isn't minor in all cases. I would also point out that if your hinges are as bad as mine you *can't* tilt it by a few milimetres. It's already moving around freely within about an inch or more anyway.

[entatlrg]

I completely agree that it is pointless criticising the Air for what it isn't if it isn't *trying* to be that thing - so there's no point complaining it doesn't have 3 USB ports, a larger screen, DVD drive built in etc. That doesn't mean you have to like it, it just means it isn't for you. I don't think that should ban you from wishing for something slightly different, but basically, it's not a useful criticism.

As for criticisms that are about *quality* - i.e. about the Air failing to be what it is advertised as or can be reasonably expected to be based on its advertising/design/spec/price (here I'm thinking about hinges, screen lines etc), then if you have problems you have every right to complain. Even still you may be a lot happier focusing on the good things - this is pretty much how I tried to look at the lines - OK I had annoying lines that reduced the apparent contrast, but I also had a gorgeously thin / light super-portable machine with decent battery life etc. But once other problems came up, and the lines appeared to get worse, why shouldn't I be unhappy?

NO amount of faulty or poorly built or otherwise bad MBAs in any way disputes the right to be happy with what they have of those who are luckier. Noone is saying you shouldn't love your Air.

However, the existence of some or many (and it doesn't appear to be a majority based on my own checking of 4 Apple stores over a period of many months) GOOD Airs doesn't mean that those who aren't happy with *quality* (as opposed to its fundamental design choices) should be forced to keep quiet to massage the egos of people who *are* happy.

BOTH CAN EXIST IN THE SAME WORLD. Good Airs and Bad Airs.

No question, I agree completely. There is a point where ranting on this or any forum get's redundant and old quick. And, isn't it wiser to contact Apple and ask them to solve the problem? At least then the problem has a chance of being solved?

[iaymnu]

Good or Bad Air exists. Such as any product. Out of the 3 machines I have I really enjoy the Air the most. The form is the best part. Although I just cracked open my machine to replace the thermal paste with AS5. The initial work on the paste wasn't too bad but now my Air runs between 40c-45c browsing , ichat, itunes vs mid 50s w/out the new paste. Also 10mins with hulu would blast my fans to 6200 rpm instantly and now it doesn't go over 4500 rpm.

Aside from the thermal paste, the new Air is really a blessing :D

[entatlrg]

Out of the 3 machines I have I really enjoy the Air the most. :D

Nice!! A 17", 13MB" and an MBA, lot's of power there!

You're a great person to give feedback regarding screen size and weight between the 3 sizes. My MBA is my favorite too, although my wife prefers the 13" MBP.

I've thought of adding the new 2.8ghz 15" MBP to the mix but I haven't convinced myself I need it.

Can I ask, what tasks you do on your 15 and MB and what percentage of time you use them compared to your MBA.

Thanks!

[iMacmatician]

The air throws away old notions of a computer.

It some how has redesigned what I expect in a laptop, I think its a game changer!

Thin light weight, more toy like, fun to use and using one make you feel like a million-air! ;)

One day soon all laptops will be like the Air!:DI hope this will happen…someday.

[iaymnu]

Nice!! A 17", 13MB" and an MBA, lot's of power there!

You're a great person to give feedback regarding screen size and weight between the 3 sizes. My MBA is my favorite too, although my wife prefers the 13" MBP.

I've thought of adding the new 2.8ghz 15" MBP to the mix but I haven't convinced myself I need it.

Can I ask, what tasks you do on your 15 and MB and what percentage of time you use them compared to your MBA.

Thanks!

The 17" I mainly use for audio editing. But also I use if I have to do heavy photoshop. I use this machine everyday @ my desk but if I need to present something I would lug it with me for the screen estate.

The uMB isn't getting much use. It was my on-the-go machine but now is replaced with the AIR. My tasks on the uMB was LightRoom and light-mid CS4 work and presentations. But the new rev.C can do that with no hiccups and is MUCH lighter!

[hodgeheg]

No question, I agree completely. There is a point where ranting on this or any forum get's redundant and old quick. And, isn't it wiser to contact Apple and ask them to solve the problem? At least then the problem has a chance of being solved?

Agreed, but the problem is that those of us complaining, whether ranting or not, have usually tried very hard to ask Apple to solve the problems. In most cases they haven't helped at all, and in others they've attempted to help but failed. That's why we're ranting on forums. Agreed, *this* isn't the thread for that. I've no objection to the "Why I love my Air" - nor have I any right to object even if I did. I was responding to the implications of "make them go away" to those people who aren't happy.

[RCM Ras Tanura]

I previously had a MacBook Pro 15 inch and decided to give it to my son who was starting college. It gave me a good excuse to buy another laptop.

So I bought the Air1 and have loved it - it is light, quick, great for international travel and looks & feels great. Never encountered any problems.

It is so good, my wife takes it all the time and I only get to use it when she it not travelling. She feels the same way as I do about the Air.

I plan to buy another Air as soon as the next upgrade comes out. Hopefully, the screen will be the same as the MacBook Pro (without the metal frame).

Then, my wife can keep the one she has now (which was supposed to be mine) and I can finally have one of my own.

Note to Apple: Please hurry with the upgrade so I can buy one!