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Surely
Jul 21, 2009, 02:45 PM
yes, and the scratches get on both the inside and outside of the case.

Exactly right.

Well, I've decided to return my case. I'm glad I bought it at the Apple Store instead of directly from Griffin for that reason- full refund.

I decided that I didn't fully trust the case. I found that I was babying my iPhone even though it was in a case. I felt like I needed a case for the case! While I had it in the iFrogz Luxe, I felt like I didn't have to be as careful.

The kicker for me was seeing my iPhone this morning while it was sitting on my table in a beam of sunlight. The smudges all over the back from fingerprints and the amount of visible dust was too much for me. It just looked really dirty.

Plus, the watermark was really annoying me.

Also, I didn't want to wait for the day that a large piece of dust or grain of sand or something would get into my case, and then I would squeeze the case right at that spot and cause a scratch or dent on the back of my iPhone.

On the plus side, there doesn't seem to be any damage to my iPhone as a result of having it in the case. Then again, I've only had the case since Friday night, and I babied it and took it out of the case daily to clean it. I've never felt that I had to do that as often with any other case I've had.



hsk
Jul 21, 2009, 05:10 PM
I just bought one even though many of you are on the fence about it or have taken it back already. Mine fits very snug - no movement at all (I tried it in the store before buying it). I really like the feel and size - and don't really care if it scratches - that's why I have it!

Did anyone use the enclosed screen protector? I have not put one on my 3GS yet.

Also - I have to see a case before I buy it - I can't buy one sight unseen. I really wanted a iskin Solo, but they did not have any (Apple store). I have an Incase Slider right now and it is just a little too big for me. So, I'll give the Reveal a go and see.

salesguy
Jul 21, 2009, 05:24 PM
I stopped by the Apple store today to check this case out. They had many in stock FWIW.

I can see how the the back would get easily scratched up, it looks all pretty but once it goes through a few days of wear and tear the scratches will show up very easily unless you have a white phone, then I could tolerate it.

I also was hoping the sides were that non slip material, much like the Incase slider (matte black), which they did not have or I would have bought.

hsk
Jul 21, 2009, 05:34 PM
Just took the protective film off the back and wiped it with a microcloth - I can see micro scratches in it under the light! So, yes, it WILL scratch easily!

But then again, I hardly ever look at the back of my phone.....

ikm19
Jul 21, 2009, 06:24 PM
Guys who ever review this case should clarify that its scratches the mac logo on back of iphone...

One of the work Iphone case i ever got it...

Corbet
Jul 21, 2009, 07:34 PM
Guys who ever review this case should clarify that its scratches the mac logo on back of iphone...

One of the work Iphone case i ever got it...

The Apple logo scratches if you look at it the wrong way.

Che Castro
Jul 21, 2009, 10:04 PM
The Reveal is currently on back order, so it will be around August before it ships. Once we receive more yours will be among the first to ship. You can also probably purchase that at a local Apple store or Apple online. I appologize for the wait.

Best Regards,


Support Technician
Griffin Technology



:mad::mad::mad::mad::(:mad::(:eek:

AUSTRALIAN
Jul 21, 2009, 10:37 PM
... is it me or is there a lot of Griffin employees online? I Twitter, they're there. I YouTube... there they are again. Ah well good customer service I guess.

Update: Hang on, was that just a copy & paste? Looks like it now. Retract comment

strike1555
Jul 21, 2009, 10:43 PM
The Reveal is currently on back order, so it will be around August before it ships. Once we receive more yours will be among the first to ship. You can also probably purchase that at a local Apple store or Apple online. I appologize for the wait.

Best Regards,


Support Technician
Griffin Technology



:mad::mad::mad::mad::(:mad::(:eek:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/TW322VC/A
In stock there.

However, save your money. This case is trash. While it does show the iPhone, it doesn't have even the slightest bit of resilience. The thing gets scratched past ugly within days.

kockgunner
Jul 21, 2009, 11:21 PM
I always had bad impressions of Griffin cases because I had the NuForm which looked cheap. But this case just seems so classy and expensive, which it's not. The back does scratch, but its an even layer of scratches so it doesn't bother me. There were watermarks, but they're getting better and don't really appear unless I press down on the case. I really like the bezel showing while having a lay on the table design.

The case feels really nice on your hand. I usually like to take cases off my devices to feel the original sleek form factor. When I did so with my iPhone, I was surprised at how little difference there was in size with the iPhone case on and case off. The case is a little hard to get on and off, but little dust gets in anyway so it doesn't matter.

Overall, this case is amazing and I'm glad this case was available at the time I got my iPhone.

55test55
Jul 22, 2009, 03:27 PM
you can only return things at the apple store within 2 weeks, right?

Surely
Jul 22, 2009, 04:23 PM
^^ Yes, you have 14 days for returns.

I returned mine today..... gave me a good excuse to walk around the 3rd Street Promenade and go to the farmers' market.

benjamin9876
Jul 22, 2009, 04:54 PM
we can return a used one?
do we need a excuse or what?

Surely
Jul 22, 2009, 05:21 PM
^^^^ I returned my case that I used for almost 5 days.

DeusInvictus7
Jul 22, 2009, 07:56 PM
Just got the case today...I'm really liking it. I took note of someone saying to do a "rubber band" trick with the case to make it fit tighter, but I just held it in place for a few minutes and it seems to have done the trick. The watermarks on the back seem to go away if you play around with it. Since my iPhone is white, I really liked how the Reveal gave my phone the "penguin" look. very happy with the case.

cymrulp
Jul 23, 2009, 03:56 PM
Got mine from amazon.co.uk, £16.99

Its a great case, the bezel will get scratched at the bottom but should protect from the odd drop. I loved my Incase Slider but I think this has it beat in terms of looks. If you dont want to lose the looks of the phone too much then this is the case to get, well from my personal experience trying out a few different ones.

Nickday89
Jul 23, 2009, 11:40 PM
i just got this, and love it, it's very snug and keeps the naked look on the phone that i want. the only problem is the Reveal scratches rather easily, and is pain to take the phone out, but you can't even tell there's a case on it, so I don't think it will be too much a problem for me.

DocGo
Jul 24, 2009, 10:33 AM
i just got this, and love it, it's very snug and keeps the naked look on the phone that i want. the only problem is the Reveal scratches rather easily, and is pain to take the phone out, but you can't even tell there's a case on it, so I don't think it will be too much a problem for me.

Yes, the back of the case scratches easily, so I put a BSE Simple Back iPhone skin on the back of the case (I have previously posted some pictures on this thread) so now, the case retains the clear back that doesn't scratch easily.

Surely
Jul 24, 2009, 11:03 AM
Yes, the back of the case scratches easily, so I put a BSE Simple Back iPhone skin on the back of the case (I have previously posted some pictures on this thread) so now, the case retains the clear back that doesn't scratch easily.

Ha! A case for a case! You can't make this stuff up people! iPhone owners are so anal.:p

So how much did you spend on the skins? Did you buy 2 sets, just in case you messed the first one up? So that adds another $10-20 to the cost of the Reveal.

DocGo
Jul 24, 2009, 02:34 PM
Ha! A case for a case! You can't make this stuff up people! iPhone owners are so anal.:p

So how much did you spend on the skins? Did you buy 2 sets, just in case you messed the first one up? So that adds another $10-20 to the cost of the Reveal.

Nope, I only buy one. I am very comfortable installing these (BSE, invisibleshields, BodyGuardz) because all my gadgets before have these). As I mentioned in my previous post with pictures, the simple back skin was originally on my 3GS, but because it cause watermarks to show when using the Reveal, I took it off my iPhone and placed it on the back of the Reveal case instead. As you can see from my pictures, I didn't do too bad with that.

Roofy.
Jul 25, 2009, 05:11 PM
No mention of this case?

http://retail.contourdesign.com/?/products/51

Thats the case I bought. It has the clear back too but has more protection. I like this one better. It is bulky though.

Rayfire
Jul 26, 2009, 02:22 AM
No mention of this case?

http://retail.contourdesign.com/?/products/51

Thats the case I bought. It has the clear back too but has more protection. I like this one better. It is bulky though.

Snap shut cases are kinda scary based on my experience. The major advantage of the Reveal is its minimal and has a clear back. Plus I can't justify the $35 price mark (I'm being cheap again after seeing my $500 spending lol)

Surely
Jul 26, 2009, 03:18 AM
No mention of this case?

http://retail.contourdesign.com/?/products/51

Thats the case I bought. It has the clear back too but has more protection. I like this one better. It is bulky though.

What a strange product description:

Let the pretenders to the throne bow down. The emperor has arrived.

JohnnyQuest
Jul 26, 2009, 03:07 PM
What a strange product description:

Ugly case with a dumb-ass description. No thanks, I'll stick with the Reveal.

hNicolas
Jul 26, 2009, 04:24 PM
Just bought the reveal (replacing a SGP Ultrathin), seems ok so far only problem I see is the raised rubber around the bezel, I would have liked it better if it was flush. Can't just wipe the screen across my shirt anymore. I'll see how long I can put up with it, or will I adjust...

I've owned Apple products since the Mac Plus, and all kinds of very expensive electronic and sensitive gizmos and have always been happy go lucky and carefree.

But... I believe that with my iPhone and MacRumors iPhone forums I'm becoming quite anal. I'm sure that in the very near future the journals of medicine will officially announce some kind of iPhone dependance/obsessive disorder.

tboooe
Jul 27, 2009, 01:28 AM
I checked my bank account tnnight and saw that I was charged by Griffin. Hopefully that means my case has finally shipped, approximately 2 months after I purchased it!

jsab
Jul 27, 2009, 03:10 AM
I checked my bank account tnnight and saw that I was charged by Griffin. Hopefully that means my case has finally shipped, approximately 2 months after I purchased it!

Let us know what happened. I ordered mine a few weeks ago and I'm getting anxious!

atszyman
Jul 27, 2009, 04:51 PM
Just got mine one week after ordering from Apple. Should have had it days ago but accidentally shipped to the wrong address and then had it delivered wrong on top of it. So far I like it. I can see how it will scratch easily, but that's the point of a case, I'd rather scratch the heck out of it than the phone. I can now let the kids play with the phone with the case and screen protector. I may abandon it in the future, but for now I like it easily scratched and all. It adds very little bulk feels like a more solid grip and will keep me from treating the phone as delicately as I was before.

AHDuke99
Jul 27, 2009, 09:04 PM
After a week and a half with it, I can say I really love this case. However, lint and sand and such can get into it, which scratches the phone. I have to take it out of the case sometimes to clean it and wipe out some of the sand and lint.

kockgunner
Jul 27, 2009, 10:08 PM
Uh oh! There seem to be places where the case is contacting the iPhone and creating chinks out of the iPhone's plastic back that look as if I dropped my iPhone even when I haven't. I touched the corresponding inside of the case and there seems to be raised imperfections in the case. I don't know if these were there when I got the case or if they were caused by debris that got into the case.

Anyone else have this problem? I might return this case because it scratched my phone in less than 2 weeks of use which is unacceptable.

Surely
Jul 28, 2009, 12:25 AM
After a week and a half with it, I can say I really love this case. However, lint and sand and such can get into it, which scratches the phone. I have to take it out of the case sometimes to clean it and wipe out some of the sand and lint.

How can you love something that causes damage to the thing it's supposed to protect?

reactions
Jul 28, 2009, 12:37 AM
i like how it looks oem - nice review

AUSTRALIAN
Jul 28, 2009, 02:25 AM
Just spotted that U.K Amazon seller on eBay selling the case.

Aussie dollar is discouraging, I don't think I want to pay that much for what is essentially a piece of clear plastic *waits patiently for competitive prices*

Juvenile
Jul 29, 2009, 05:41 PM
After a week and a half with it, I can say I really love this case. However, lint and sand and such can get into it, which scratches the phone. I have to take it out of the case sometimes to clean it and wipe out some of the sand and lint.

Finally got my case today. Looks and feels like there is no case. No gap as others reported. A++

Finally got my case today. Looks and feels like there is no case. No gap as others reported. A++

So, I did find a flaw. The top edge near the earpiece is razor sharp and is very uncomfortable when talking. Simple fix was taking a strip of sandpaper to round the edge. All is good again.

Samurai
Jul 29, 2009, 08:52 PM
Uh oh! There seem to be places where the case is contacting the iPhone and creating chinks out of the iPhone's plastic back that look as if I dropped my iPhone even when I haven't. I touched the corresponding inside of the case and there seems to be raised imperfections in the case. I don't know if these were there when I got the case or if they were caused by debris that got into the case.

Anyone else have this problem? I might return this case because it scratched my phone in less than 2 weeks of use which is unacceptable.

This happened to me too. I'm afraid to put the case back on. :mad:

teneighteen
Jul 30, 2009, 09:03 AM
As I mentioned in my previous post with pictures, the simple back skin was originally on my 3GS, but because it cause watermarks to show when using the Reveal, I took it off my iPhone and placed it on the back of the Reveal case instead.

This sounds like a neat idea, but have you had any problems with dust or grit that finds its way inside the case, causing the back of the iPhone to scratch even more?

I once had a silicone case where that happened, so I was hoping to prevent that. Your original idea of keeping the BSE on the iPhone inside the case sounded good -- how bad were the watermarks?

Maybe I'd need two simple back skins, one for the iPhone itself, and one for the Reveal case? :confused:

bova80
Jul 30, 2009, 09:37 AM
the only place i can find that some dust gets into is by the vibrate rocker but nothing that has scratched the phone. other than that this case has been excellent.

Skandocious
Jul 30, 2009, 12:44 PM
DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS GARBAGE CASE!

It scratched the hell out of my brand new iPhone 3GS. I was diligent about removing and cleaning it every 1-2 days with a microfiber cloth and it still made DEEP gouges on the back of my iPhone because the plastic on the TOUCHES the iPhone and creates scratches. I exchanged SEVERAL emails with a tech at Griffin and he refused to offer any sort of retribution for the damage sustained to my device, not to mention that he wouldn't even refund my money for the case. He said he'd give me any other Griffin case I wanted but why in the world would I use any of their other cases after this?! Not to mention they're all ugly in my opinion.

Here are pictures of the scratching that occurred from using the Griffin Reveal. Some of the dots in the image are small dust particles but the ones in the red circles are small abrasions that do not clean off. Keep in mind that I put this case on my brand new 3GS the SAME DAY I bought it, it didn't have a single scratch before.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4140/dsc02001o.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9194/dsc02002q.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1556/dsc02003t.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8649/dsc02006s.jpg

Samurai
Jul 30, 2009, 12:56 PM
DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS GARBAGE CASE!

It scratched the hell out of my brand new iPhone 3GS. I was diligent about removing and cleaning it every 1-2 days with a microfiber cloth and it still made DEEP gouges on the back of my iPhone because the plastic on the TOUCHES the iPhone and creates scratches. I exchanged SEVERAL emails with a tech at Griffin and he refused to offer any sort of retribution for the damage sustained to my device, not to mention that he wouldn't even refund my money for the case. He said he'd give me any other Griffin case I wanted but why in the world would I use any of their other cases after this?! Not to mention they're all ugly in my opinion.

Here are pictures of the scratching that occurred from using the Griffin Reveal. Some of the dots in the image are small dust particles but the ones in the red circles are small abrasions that do not clean off. Keep in mind that I put this case on my brand new 3GS the SAME DAY I bought it, it didn't have a single scratch before.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4140/dsc02001o.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9194/dsc02002q.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1556/dsc02003t.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8649/dsc02006s.jpg


Nice pictures, that's exactly what it did to my iPhone 3GS, but I caught it before it got too bad so I only have one bad chip/scratch. I'm also the type of person who takes really good care of my things and have even been called OCD because of how neat and careful I am, so this isn't just because we beat up our iPhones.

STEVESKI07
Jul 30, 2009, 01:16 PM
DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS GARBAGE CASE!

It scratched the hell out of my brand new iPhone 3GS. I was diligent about removing and cleaning it every 1-2 days with a microfiber cloth and it still made DEEP gouges on the back of my iPhone because the plastic on the TOUCHES the iPhone and creates scratches. I exchanged SEVERAL emails with a tech at Griffin and he refused to offer any sort of retribution for the damage sustained to my device, not to mention that he wouldn't even refund my money for the case. He said he'd give me any other Griffin case I wanted but why in the world would I use any of their other cases after this?! Not to mention they're all ugly in my opinion.

Here are pictures of the scratching that occurred from using the Griffin Reveal. Some of the dots in the image are small dust particles but the ones in the red circles are small abrasions that do not clean off. Keep in mind that I put this case on my brand new 3GS the SAME DAY I bought it, it didn't have a single scratch before.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4140/dsc02001o.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9194/dsc02002q.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1556/dsc02003t.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8649/dsc02006s.jpg

Wow, I'm so happy that when I ordered my Reveal it was on a 3 week back order and I decided to cancel my order because of that. I'll stick with my Incase Slider which supposedly scratches too, yet it hasn't left a mark on my phone yet. No reason in pushing my luck with something else when I'm perfectly happy with what I have.

Rayfire
Jul 30, 2009, 05:37 PM
DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS GARBAGE CASE!

It scratched the hell out of my brand new iPhone 3GS. I was diligent about removing and cleaning it every 1-2 days with a microfiber cloth and it still made DEEP gouges on the back of my iPhone because the plastic on the TOUCHES the iPhone and creates scratches. I exchanged SEVERAL emails with a tech at Griffin and he refused to offer any sort of retribution for the damage sustained to my device, not to mention that he wouldn't even refund my money for the case. He said he'd give me any other Griffin case I wanted but why in the world would I use any of their other cases after this?! Not to mention they're all ugly in my opinion.

Here are pictures of the scratching that occurred from using the Griffin Reveal. Some of the dots in the image are small dust particles but the ones in the red circles are small abrasions that do not clean off. Keep in mind that I put this case on my brand new 3GS the SAME DAY I bought it, it didn't have a single scratch before.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4140/dsc02001o.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9194/dsc02002q.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1556/dsc02003t.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8649/dsc02006s.jpg

I'm quite bothered with your first link, the one where it shows the dock connector. Are all of those dust inside the dock connector? :eek:

Anyway, thanks for bringing up this problem. Certainly plastic against plastic really doesn't help. I guess I'm off with my iFrogz Luxe case, I'm diggin it.

Skandocious
Jul 30, 2009, 06:10 PM
I'm quite bothered with your first link, the one where it shows the dock connector. Are all of those dust inside the dock connector? :eek:Lol I carry it in my pocket, what do you expect?! I could blow it out with an air can but I'm paranoid that it'll blow it all up inside of the phone and then it'll be visible under the glass :eek:

Rayfire
Jul 30, 2009, 08:49 PM
Lol I carry it in my pocket, what do you expect?! I could blow it out with an air can but I'm paranoid that it'll blow it all up inside of the phone and then it'll be visible under the glass :eek:

I blow mine all the time, no problems here being visible under the glass ;)

Any updates with regards to how they'll fix your dilemma?

MemoryMapped
Jul 30, 2009, 09:06 PM
DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS GARBAGE CASE!

...

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4140/dsc02001o.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9194/dsc02002q.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1556/dsc02003t.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8649/dsc02006s.jpg

Sorry for your bad luck, but thanks for letting us know. It seems like the only "safe" way to use this case is with a skin on the back of the iphone. Probably the BSE Simple Back. And according to others on this thread, putting a BSE Simple Back on the OUTSIDE of the case helps prevent scratches.

Not sure if I want to spend $40+ bucks for this case and 2 back skins. I really wish there was a better thin case with a clear back. Incase Frame Case would be a great candidate if they came in transparent black.

Skandocious
Jul 30, 2009, 11:06 PM
I blow mine all the time, no problems here being visible under the glass ;)

Any updates with regards to how they'll fix your dilemma?The guy just kept insisting that it wasn't Griffin's fault because it was the DEBRIS that caused the scratches... BS-- it was the plastic-to-plastic contact that caused the scratches. After I started become more frustrated the guy offered me any Griffin case and I told him I didn't want it. Told him to give me something I could actually use and/or sell to at least offset the wasted money on the case. He again told me he can only give me another case so I told him I was done being nice and that I was taking the story to the net. That's when I came here.

Seems to me that it would be in Griffin's best interest to just pay out $xx to a single customer to keep the PR up... Poor business choice in my opinion. I'm trying to spread the news around the web about how this case jacked up my brand new 3GS.

dinosaur1
Jul 31, 2009, 07:37 AM
I have this case and also have a Pioneer stereo w/ a usb port in my suv which allows me to listen to the iPhone's radio, etc......what is a good idea to put under this case so it doesn't slide around the little pocket sleeve under the radio while I'm driving?

here's a link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350100266886&category=85806&refid=store

Ferris23
Jul 31, 2009, 07:57 AM
Wow another Griffin case turns out to do more damage that protect. I'm shocked.

Seriously, Griffin makes some good accessories, but the cases they make are pathetic and are only useful if you want to damage your phone in an attempt to protect it.

What a turn for the worst this case took, glad I decided against it. Too bad.

RedCloud75013
Jul 31, 2009, 09:25 AM
I ordered 2 reveal cases for a 3g and a 3gs on Tuesday and they were delivered yesterday (ordered from the griffin website)...
I have not put them on yet as I thought they came with a screen protector - and they don't (btw, any good screen protector to recommend? something that comes with a cloth maybe?)
I wish I had seen these scratches pictures before. I did some extensive reading and it seems that people were mostly satisfied with it. Now I have second thoughts. I guess I'll try it for a week or 2, see if I detect anything abnormal.
These cost me $20 a piece, and I don't feel like spending money on another case. For people interested in buying it, there are a bunch of coupons out there that will bring the price from $25 to $20.

Ferris23
Jul 31, 2009, 09:31 AM
I guess I'll try it for a week or 2, see if I detect anything abnormal.


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9194/dsc02002q.jpg


Really?


Can't you just return them?

Surely
Jul 31, 2009, 10:33 AM
I ordered 2 reveal cases for a 3g and a 3gs on Tuesday and they were delivered yesterday (ordered from the griffin website)...
I have not put them on yet as I thought they came with a screen protector - and they don't (btw, any good screen protector to recommend? something that comes with a cloth maybe?)

The Reveal I bought came with a screen protector (I didn't use it, and I also returned the case)..... Strange that yours didn't come with them. Is Griffin getting cheap? Er.... cheaper?

teneighteen
Jul 31, 2009, 12:52 PM
Mine came with a screen protector too. I haven't put it on yet though... as I'm not sure whether it can be removed without leaving any marks. I haven't really heard anyone comment on the effectiveness of the screen protector either.

I was really excited about the design and look of the Griffin Reveal. I personally haven't experienced any scratches on the back of my phone yet, but after seeing some of these posts it is leaving me a bit nervous. Guess I'll try it out for a bit longer... I have 14 days to decide if i want to refund it to the Apple store.

I do like the look of the case though. Maybe I'll just invest in a BSE or something to prevent scratches, just in case.

benjamin9876
Aug 1, 2009, 01:47 AM
I ordered 2 reveal cases for a 3g and a 3gs on Tuesday and they were delivered yesterday (ordered from the griffin website)...
I have not put them on yet as I thought they came with a screen protector - and they don't (btw, any good screen protector to recommend? something that comes with a cloth maybe?)
I wish I had seen these scratches pictures before. I did some extensive reading and it seems that people were mostly satisfied with it. Now I have second thoughts. I guess I'll try it for a week or 2, see if I detect anything abnormal.
These cost me $20 a piece, and I don't feel like spending money on another case. For people interested in buying it, there are a bunch of coupons out there that will bring the price from $25 to $20.

it says back order. how can u get it so fast?

dannyar
Aug 1, 2009, 11:37 AM
Check out the thread i just put up about giving this Griffin Reveal i reviewed away. All you have to do is SUBSCRIBE to my channel and comment when the video goes up tomorrow. Thanks again for all your support!

http://www.youtube.com/user/Dannyar10

Che Castro
Aug 1, 2009, 07:13 PM
Check out the thread i just put up about giving this Griffin Reveal i reviewed away. All you have to do is SUBSCRIBE to my channel and comment when the video goes up tomorrow. Thanks again for all your support!

http://www.youtube.com/user/Dannyar10

what are your thoughts on the seidio innocase 2?

I think is the best case ever

deftdrummer
Aug 1, 2009, 08:49 PM
Hey my iphone already has those marks, so I guess I'm in the clear huh!?

deftdrummer
Aug 1, 2009, 11:07 PM
I spoke to a Griffin rep yesterday who informed me that they do indeed have the reveal in stock and are now shipping, despite what the website says.

hsk
Aug 1, 2009, 11:39 PM
Well, I am among those here who returned it after a short trial. I had one on for about 5 days. While I liked the size and fit, I did not like the feel and the watermarks (and the scratches on the back!). The side of the case was ok, but the back was as slick as the iPhone itself and thus I did not really gain any "grip". I also worried about the exact type of scratching as pictured above.

I have a Feather now and think that is going to be be the one I keep - well, a Feather and maybe the new Incipio Honu or a Candyshell.

deftdrummer
Aug 2, 2009, 11:39 PM
Well, I am among those here who returned it after a short trial. I had one on for about 5 days. While I liked the size and fit, I did not like the feel and the watermarks (and the scratches on the back!). The side of the case was ok, but the back was as slick as the iPhone itself and thus I did not really gain any "grip". I also worried about the exact type of scratching as pictured above.

I have a Feather now and think that is going to be be the one I keep - well, a Feather and maybe the new Incipio Honu or a Candyshell.

A word of advice on the feather; try to limit how often you remove it from the iphone, as the material is prone to splitting and cracking. I had a black feather for about 5 months. I took it off only to dock and also to use the phone naked and cracks started first at the corners and then around the volume rocker where the material is the weakest. Just a heads up. I loved the case though. It was fantastic with a power support anti glare film.

jsab
Aug 3, 2009, 12:41 AM
I ordered mine 3.5 weeks ago and mine haven't come yet. And unless they ship it without telling you, it hasn't even shipped yet. Where is my case?!

sal
Aug 3, 2009, 03:12 AM
no case here either. I ordered days after the 3GS release. I got an email two weeks ago that they were going to ship. no email letting me know it's been shipped.

eron
Aug 3, 2009, 06:23 AM
For those cases that cause scratches, at least the scratches don't show up when you have the case on. You can even offer to sell your iphone with the case. On a reveal however, everything is revealed.

hsk
Aug 3, 2009, 08:36 AM
A word of advice on the feather; try to limit how often you remove it from the iphone, as the material is prone to splitting and cracking. I had a black feather for about 5 months. I took it off only to dock and also to use the phone naked and cracks started first at the corners and then around the volume rocker where the material is the weakest. Just a heads up. I loved the case though. It was fantastic with a power support anti glare film.

Thanks - appreciate this. I could see how this could happen after a while. Though I am not sure I'll keep any case on for more than a month or two!

tboooe
Aug 3, 2009, 10:03 PM
I placed my order almost 2 months ago and just received the case today. The first thing I checked was the gap between the top rubber portion and the iphone. I am not sure if Griffin modified the case since its initial release but I did not detect the gap. The phone seemed to fit very snugly in the case. One thing I did notice was how easily the back of the case gets scratched. In fact, the case back was already scratched when I removed it from the packaging. It looked like the scratches were caused by the case rubbing the packaging during shipment. Finally, I read that some people may have experienced damage to their iphones while in the case. I had installed a BSE on my phone when I first got it. All the other cases I tried did not fit very well with the BSE. I tried the ifrogz luxe, agent18, and feather. With the Reveal, my phone slid right in and seemed to fit very snugly. There is a fair amount of watermarking caused by the BSE but I dont care.

Of course I have only had the Reveal for about 1 hour but my initial impressions are positive.

jsab
Aug 3, 2009, 10:22 PM
@griffintech said via Twitter that the cases would be shipping and be in stock at Apple stores LAST week. Mine still hasn't shipped and the Griffin website says they're still on backorder. I wanted to cancel but couldn't find a "cancel" button anywhere. Does anyone know how to cancel an order with them?

mikejfrd
Aug 3, 2009, 10:24 PM
I've had my reveal on my 3gs for about 2 weeks, and there is no damage on the back of my phone. :confused:

MemoryMapped
Aug 3, 2009, 11:57 PM
I placed my order almost 2 months ago and just received the case today. The first thing I checked was the gap between the top rubber portion and the iphone. I am not sure if Griffin modified the case since its initial release but I did not detect the gap. The phone seemed to fit very snugly in the case. One thing I did notice was how easily the back of the case gets scratched. In fact, the case back was already scratched when I removed it from the packaging. It looked like the scratches were caused by the case rubbing the packaging during shipment. Finally, I read that some people may have experienced damage to their iphones while in the case. I had installed a BSE on my phone when I first got it. All the other cases I tried did not fit very well with the BSE. I tried the ifrogz luxe, agent18, and feather. With the Reveal, my phone slid right in and seemed to fit very snugly.

Of course I have only had the Reveal for about 1 hour but my initial impressions are positive.

So, the feather won't fit if you have a BSE on? I guess that makes sense because the feather hugs the phone pretty tightly, but I've heard of others in the forum saying the feather will fit with the BSE... guess it's not a perfect fit.

tboooe
Aug 4, 2009, 11:28 AM
So, the feather won't fit if you have a BSE on? I guess that makes sense because the feather hugs the phone pretty tightly, but I've heard of others in the forum saying the feather will fit with the BSE... guess it's not a perfect fit.

Covers like the Feather will fit but getting it on without damaging the BSE is hard. I found that it is impossible to do so without having the BSE around the edges moving quite a bit. The Reveal has been the only cover I have tried that also works with the BSE. The ifrogz sort of worked but it is a very tight fit. The case actually cracked in several areas from the added thickness of the BSE.

outkast564
Aug 4, 2009, 06:51 PM
I was informed that my case shipped out yesterday from Griffin. I ordered mine around the 4th of July. They maybe starting to fill back-ordered orders. Hopefully they fixed some issues with the cases.

Hello,

I have good news! Your order has shipped and your UPS tracking number is: 1Z#############

Looks like this will be delivered on the 10th.

Thank you,

Rachel
Griffin Technology
Technical Support

Skandocious
Aug 4, 2009, 11:05 PM
Hopefully they fixed some issues with the cases.Don't count on it. They'd have to completely redesign the case so that it doesn't sit so closely to the phone. Not gonna happen.

cymrulp
Aug 5, 2009, 11:54 AM
just thought I would share my video with you all on this case

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0E_6aHggus

cubbie5150
Aug 5, 2009, 05:32 PM
I can't seem to find the Reveal on the Apple Store site (U.S.).

Anyways, after cancelling my backordered Reveal (direct from Griffin) a couple weeks ago, I decided to re-order from Griffin today (still shows as backordered on their site). Last night I applied a wrapsol skin to the back of my 3G S, and just for kicks, today slapped on my clear PS Air Jacket. The cool thing about the wrapsol is that it has a matte finish, so....zero watermarking!! I figure if the Air Jacket fits over the wrapsol, so will the Reveal (fingers crossed); & the wrapsol should protect the phone from being scratched by the case. I'll also order a simple back from BSE to cover the back of the Reveal itself. Kinda costly, I know, but this way I might end up with a case that suits pretty much all of my wants. YMMV.

Now I just have to hope Griffin can ship this during my natural life!!

Rayfire
Aug 5, 2009, 06:48 PM
I can't seem to find the Reveal on the Apple Store site (U.S.).

Anyways, after cancelling my backordered Reveal (direct from Griffin) a couple weeks ago, I decided to re-order from Griffin today (still shows as backordered on their site). Last night I applied a wrapsol skin to the back of my 3G S, and just for kicks, today slapped on my clear PS Air Jacket. The cool thing about the wrapsol is that it has a matte finish, so....zero watermarking!! I figure if the Air Jacket fits over the wrapsol, so will the Reveal (fingers crossed); & the wrapsol should protect the phone from being scratched by the case. I'll also order a simple back from BSE to cover the back of the Reveal itself. Kinda costly, I know, but this way I might end up with a case that suits pretty much all of my wants. YMMV.

Now I just have to hope Griffin can ship this during my natural life!!

It seems like they did remove it out from the Apple store online.

That set up of yours is quite interesting, would you mind posting pics once you have everything done?

kockgunner
Aug 6, 2009, 02:09 AM
I should've know this case was a bad idea. Hard plastic + hard plastic = bad. I read positive reviews so I thought this case would be fine, but lo and behold, it scratches the iPhone. I'll email Griffin to see what they have to say. It seems all the cases they make harm the iPhone more than protect.

teneighteen
Aug 6, 2009, 12:54 PM
Anyways, after cancelling my backordered Reveal (direct from Griffin) a couple weeks ago, I decided to re-order from Griffin today (still shows as backordered on their site). Last night I applied a wrapsol skin to the back of my 3G S, and just for kicks, today slapped on my clear PS Air Jacket. The cool thing about the wrapsol is that it has a matte finish, so....zero watermarking!! I figure if the Air Jacket fits over the wrapsol, so will the Reveal (fingers crossed); & the wrapsol should protect the phone from being scratched by the case. I'll also order a simple back from BSE to cover the back of the Reveal itself. Kinda costly, I know, but this way I might end up with a case that suits pretty much all of my wants. YMMV.


I was thinking of doing the same thing! But you're right... it gets to be too costly, which is why I didn't end up doing it (yet). The other problem is that it's extremely expensive to ship the wrapsol to Canada (I have no idea why...), so I may have to find another solution.

Anyway, i'd be really interested to see pictures of your final case! (Especially the wrapsol skin under the Griffin reveal)

Che Castro
Aug 6, 2009, 07:46 PM
just got the reveal case today, i dont know it wasnt what I expected, I went back to my seidio innocase

i guess ill just use the reveal as backup

jsab
Aug 7, 2009, 01:49 AM
The Reveal is supposedly back in stock (per the Griffin website), but mine still hasn't shipped...

Blkz33
Aug 9, 2009, 09:23 PM
Great review...I picked up my reveal case today and I am completely satisfied with it...

Surely
Aug 9, 2009, 09:41 PM
Anyone try one of these incase versions (http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/frame-case-cl59225)? It's called the Frame Case. They don't offer a clear one though, which I find weird.

hulk
Aug 10, 2009, 08:44 AM
Hi, Had the reveal for a few weeks now, the clear back looks very scratched, and it has also scratched the chrome bezel!! not happy! :mad:

deftdrummer
Aug 10, 2009, 11:11 PM
Had the case for a few hours now, and not sure what to think. It definitely scratches (if that matters....it is a case after all). But more importantly I am really not digging the slight lip that raises around the perimeter of the screen. Not only that but it kinda makes my white iphone look like an Oreo...

*EDIT* after checking out the Incase Frame..Oreo iphone not looking so fugly ;-)

tboooe
Aug 11, 2009, 09:44 AM
Had the case for a few hours now, and not sure what to think. It definitely scratches (if that matters....it is a case after all). But more importantly I am really not digging the slight lip that raises around the perimeter of the screen. Not only that but it kinda makes my white iphone look like an Oreo...

*EDIT* after checking out the Incase Frame..Oreo iphone not looking so fugly ;-)

I actually prefer the lip as it allows me to place my phone face down without fear of scratching the screen or bezel. To each their own! BTW, I luv Oreos!!!

hulk
Aug 11, 2009, 11:10 AM
I think the case looks great, probably one of the best on market at the moment. Have you also had the problem of the chrome getting scratched while in the case? Its annoying coz a few friends dot use protective case's and thier chrome bezels are spotless...

tboooe
Aug 11, 2009, 11:21 AM
I think the case looks great, probably one of the best on market at the moment. Have you also had the problem of the chrome getting scratched while in the case? Its annoying coz a few friends dot use protective case's and thier chrome bezels are spotless...

I think any case that covers the bezel will scratch it eventually because of debris that gets caught underneath. I do not think its possible to make a case that will not allow dirt and debris inside. This is why I use a BSE with my Reveal.

aluren
Aug 11, 2009, 11:44 AM
I have the BSE and Reveal case. Great combo. Coming from a Speck Candyshell, the Reveal is definitely an improvement. It looks and feels better, the protection is just as strong, and the power/volume buttons are not that hard to press. The clear plastic in the back scratches very easy, but since it's clear, it's not that noticeable. Better have the case get scratched than my iPhone. Overall, this is a very impressive case.

Ferris23
Aug 11, 2009, 12:17 PM
I went and looked at this case at the Apple Store, they had a ton all in new packaging. What's annoying is the package has an open window where the case is exposed so you can feel it, well all of the cases were scratched because of that open window. There was no plastic film covering it that I could see either like the previous package I saw.

3gbuff
Aug 11, 2009, 01:13 PM
I went and looked at this case at the Apple Store, they had a ton all in new packaging. What's annoying is the package has an open window where the case is exposed so you can feel it, well all of the cases were scratched because of that open window. There was no plastic film covering it that I could see either like the previous package I saw.

When i purchased mine last month, it had a film covering the back. It looked really good for about 2 days. Then the scratches started coming a plenty. After a week, it looked too fugly to put on my phone. Believe me, i took really good care of it never placing it on its back, always cleaning it out every day... Also, the rubber frame gets bent out of shape after taking your phone in and out of the case. This case also did a number on the back of my brand new 3GS by making 3 small pin size holes at the top end. Thank God the phone is white so it doesnt show too much.

RedCloud75013
Aug 11, 2009, 03:08 PM
it says back order. how can u get it so fast?

Yes it does - but I called them, and their rep told me they had just received some; they were to process the orders on a first come, first served basis - but I was also told that if I placed my order within a couple of hours, I should have it quite soon, regardless of the status indicated on their website.

RedCloud75013
Aug 11, 2009, 03:19 PM
I've had the reveal for a little more than 4 days now, here are my impressions:

*Griffin is cheap. Mine did not come with a screen protector; went for the antiglare screen protector by power support (which is a fantastic screen protector btw)
*I confirm other users' observations: the griffin case will show a lot of scratches. Which to me does not matter much since I'd rather scratch my case than the iPhone. The clear look is good - and the 'griffin' watermark not too annoying.
*the overall look is quite good: the bezel is exposed, which is a plus to me. As for the sensitivity to scratches, well, what do you want... it's exposed...
*I wish the reveal had the same cuts as the incipio feather. It took me some time to get used to the fact that the volume and standby buttons were covered... too bad.
*The vibrate switch is a little less accessible, but nothing bad.
*as mentionned by another person on the forum, the 'lip' of the reveal tends to stick out a bit. Not a problem if you just look at the phone - however, it is a bit unpleasant when you are on the phone, in a noisy environment, when you press the phone a bit harder on your ear.

Overall, I have not experienced the scratches on the iPhone itself due to plastic friction (yet?). IMO, protecting a case with another case (or film or whatever) just means that the case in the first place does not suit your needs. I like the look of the reveal very much - and I'm going to keep my fingers crossed...

Thrilledge
Aug 11, 2009, 05:13 PM
I think if you worry yourself about scratching the bezel, you might as well not even get the IPhone.

teneighteen
Aug 12, 2009, 08:19 AM
This is why I use a BSE with my Reveal.

How does it look with the BSE inside the Reveal? Does it cause 'splotchy' watermarks everywhere, since the BSE is kinda sticky, as opposed to matte?

If you have pictures, that'd be great. I was thinking of doing the same thing with the Wrapsol film, but the BSE is a lot more cost-effective.

Thanks!

Ferris23
Aug 12, 2009, 09:39 AM
Who cares about bezel scratches, when it gets nasty just do this mod. I did and it looks so much better than the blingy chrome.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=332434&highlight=bezel

And yes the Reveal will show watermarks with a BSE.

STEVESKI07
Aug 12, 2009, 12:46 PM
How does it look with the BSE inside the Reveal? Does it cause 'splotchy' watermarks everywhere, since the BSE is kinda sticky, as opposed to matte?

If you have pictures, that'd be great. I was thinking of doing the same thing with the Wrapsol film, but the BSE is a lot more cost-effective.

Thanks!

Yes there are very big water marks from the BSE skin. I ordered the wrapsol skin and it should be in by the end of the week, so I'm gonna give that one a shot. Has anyone else tried it with the wrapsol?

Surely
Aug 12, 2009, 01:03 PM
Yes there are very big water marks from the BSE skin. I ordered the wrapsol skin and it should be in by the end of the week, so I'm gonna give that one a shot. Has anyone else tried it with the wrapsol?

I don't think that it matters which skin you use. The problem is the contact that is being made between the inside of the Reveal case and the skin/iPhone back. That is what makes the watermark.

Contact = Watermark

The only way for it to be watermark-free is to ensure that there is space (air) between the inside of the case and the back of the iPhone.

Back when I had the case (I returned it), I was able to remove the watermark I was getting by squeezing the case while the iPhone was in it. Unfortunately, it was a temporary fix (like 10 seconds), and the watermark would reappear once the case went back to it's resting shape and made contact with the iPhone again.

STEVESKI07
Aug 12, 2009, 01:08 PM
I don't think that it matters which skin you use. The problem is the contact that is being made between the inside of the Reveal case and the skin/iPhone back. That is what makes the watermark.

Contact = Watermark

The only way for it to be watermark-free is to ensure that there is space (air) between the inside of the case and the back of the iPhone.

Back when I had the case (I returned it), I was able to remove the watermark I was getting by squeezing the case while the iPhone was in it. Unfortunately, it was a temporary fix (like 10 seconds), and the watermark would reappear once the case went back to it's resting shape and made contact with the iPhone again.

I was thinking the Wrapsol would help because it is a matte finish as opposed to a smooth sticky finish. Most skins have that texture that are just asking for water marks. I'll be the guinea pig when it comes to the Wrapsol then and report back.

Ferris23
Aug 12, 2009, 01:38 PM
It's only sticky or clear finishes that will cause it, the Wrapsol doesn't cause any watermarks.

redcrow240
Aug 12, 2009, 02:44 PM
hey guys,

I just got this case in the mail from griffintechnology.com (used a %25 off coupon), and it didnt include a cleaning cloth or a screen protector...what gives? Ive seen on youtube that several reviewers also did not get these items. Is this a new version or batch? is that the cause?

Eitherway I sent griffin an email and ill update you guys on what they have to say

I plan on putting the case on a new iphone 3gs (white) this weekend :)
I also have the wrapsol kit waiting to be used in combination (maybe).

kockgunner
Aug 12, 2009, 08:25 PM
DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS GARBAGE CASE!

It scratched the hell out of my brand new iPhone 3GS. I was diligent about removing and cleaning it every 1-2 days with a microfiber cloth and it still made DEEP gouges on the back of my iPhone because the plastic on the TOUCHES the iPhone and creates scratches. I exchanged SEVERAL emails with a tech at Griffin and he refused to offer any sort of retribution for the damage sustained to my device, not to mention that he wouldn't even refund my money for the case. He said he'd give me any other Griffin case I wanted but why in the world would I use any of their other cases after this?! Not to mention they're all ugly in my opinion.

Here are pictures of the scratching that occurred from using the Griffin Reveal. Some of the dots in the image are small dust particles but the ones in the red circles are small abrasions that do not clean off. Keep in mind that I put this case on my brand new 3GS the SAME DAY I bought it, it didn't have a single scratch before.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4140/dsc02001o.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9194/dsc02002q.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1556/dsc02003t.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8649/dsc02006s.jpg

The same thing happened to me. This is not a long term case. Not even a week-long case. What case did you end up getting? Griffin offered me another product or another Reveal, but many of their cases cause scratches or are ugly. Did they fix the top rubber portion from being non-flush yet? If so, I might give the Reveal another try. All I want it to do is to not scratch my phone!

Skandocious
Aug 13, 2009, 12:47 AM
The same thing happened to me. This is not a long term case. Not even a week-long case. What case did you end up getting? Griffin offered me another product or another Reveal, but many of their cases cause scratches or are ugly. Did they fix the top rubber portion from being non-flush yet? If so, I might give the Reveal another try. All I want it to do is to not scratch my phone!I told the guy I didn't want any free replacement cases, under principle. I wouldn't dare put another one of their products on my phone. After he refused to compensate me SOMEHOW, I shared a few nasty words with them and they never responded again. Figures. HORRIBLE customer service at that place.

DocGo
Aug 13, 2009, 06:31 AM
iPhone with Wrapsol skin beside Reveal case
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2538/3817615940_ea83e1fde7_b.jpg

iPhone with Wrapsol skin inside a Reveal case. Reveal case still without scratches because of a simple back BSE on it.:D
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2428/3817616520_2b9def6410_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2474/3817617076_0c8f817b67_b.jpg

STEVESKI07
Aug 13, 2009, 07:26 AM
iPhone with Wrapsol skin beside Reveal case


iPhone with Wrapsol skin inside a Reveal case. Reveal case still without scratches because of a simple back BSE on it.:D



This is the same exact setup I have. I just put my Wrapsol skin on last night so I wanted to make sure all the little marks worked their way out before putting the case back on. I took off my BSE simple back and just put it onto the back of my Reveal and you can't even tell it's there. It looks like it was made to fit the back of that case. It also gives it a little better grip. However, I'm loving the look/feel of the phone with just the Wrapsol, so I may go caseless during the week and throw on the case for the weekends when I'm out doing things.

rembot
Aug 13, 2009, 10:40 AM
This is the same exact setup I have. I just put my Wrapsol skin on last night so I wanted to make sure all the little marks worked their way out before putting the case back on. I took off my BSE simple back and just put it onto the back of my Reveal and you can't even tell it's there. It looks like it was made to fit the back of that case. It also gives it a little better grip. However, I'm loving the look/feel of the phone with just the Wrapsol, so I may go caseless during the week and throw on the case for the weekends when I'm out doing things.

I was very close to buying this case, cuz i didnt mind the scratches as long as they stay on the case. But when i heard about the phone getting scratch by the case i bought an other case.

But now that i read your setup (warpsol+BSE back) im second guessing my choice. This looks like a good combo, but i'd like more feedback about scratches on the phones/case and watermark. PLus overall protection.

Its a big chunk of money, so before i spend it i want to make sure it will work.
An other thing, im not good with my hands, i suck at installing screen protector. Mine has 3 little air bubbles in it. Will I be able to install the wrapsol?

Surely
Aug 13, 2009, 10:47 AM
iPhone with Wrapsol skin beside Reveal case
PHOTOS

iPhone with Wrapsol skin inside a Reveal case. Reveal case still without scratches because of a simple back BSE on it.:D

PHOTOS

So basically, you spent $60+ for a case. That's 20% of the 32GB iPhone cost!

You had to buy a case (wrapsol) to protect the iPhone from a case (Reveal), and you had to buy a case (BSE) to protect a case (Reveal) from damage.

There is something inherently wrong with that.

STEVESKI07
Aug 13, 2009, 11:03 AM
I was very close to buying this case, cuz i didnt mind the scratches as long as they stay on the case. But when i heard about the phone getting scratch by the case i bought an other case.

But now that i read your setup (warpsol+BSE back) im second guessing my choice. This looks like a good combo, but i'd like more feedback about scratches on the phones/case and watermark. PLus overall protection.

Its a big chunk of money, so before i spend it i want to make sure it will work.
An other thing, im not good with my hands, i suck at installing screen protector. Mine has 3 little air bubbles in it. Will I be able to install the wrapsol?

I've only had it for a day so I can't speak much about the scratches. Supposedly the bezel can still get scratched as it can with most cases, because the Wrapsol doesn't cover the bezel. Either way, no scratches here yet and I don't mind some light scratching anyways. I just don't want the back getting scratched cuz that stands out a lot more. 0 watermarks on the back. The matte finish eliminates any chance of watermarks. You will be happy there. Even without any skin, there's a high chance for watermarks. The Wrapsol wasn't hard to install. I'm not very good with screen protectors either, but putting a skin on the back is much easier. Even if you get a small speck of dust under the skin it is barely noticeable because of the matte finish. A small speck of dust under a screen protector is very noticeable. Just take your time and you'll have no problem installing it.

So basically, you spent $60+ for a case. That's 20% of the 32GB iPhone cost!

You had to buy a case (wrapsol) to protect the iPhone from a case (Reveal), and you had to buy a case (BSE) to protect a case (Reveal) from damage.

There is something inherently wrong with that.

$25 for the Giffin Reveal
$15 for Wrapsol
$6 for Simple Back
= $46

On top of that. I bought the Simple Back a while back when I had the Incase Slider. I put the Simple Back on and then realized the slider wouldn't fit, but I wanted to keep the skin on so I decided to check out the Reveal. At this point, the $6 for the BSE was already a sunk cost. I bought the reveal for $25 and then bought the Wrapsol for $15, which brings it to $40, only $5 more then most cases. I took the BSE off the back of my phone and just decided to put it on the back of the Reveal instead of throwing it away. I could care less about the scratches, I just wanted the better grip. I'm not "protecting" my case with another case. So there's my justification. Nobody is making you do it. Don't do it if you don't want to. I'd personally rather spend $46 on a case that I love then $35 on a case that I'm just ok with.

Surely
Aug 13, 2009, 11:19 AM
$25 for the Giffin Reveal
$15 for Wrapsol
$6 for Simple Back
= $46

On top of that. I bought the Simple Back a while back when I had the Incase Slider. I put the Simple Back on and then realized the slider wouldn't fit, but I wanted to keep the skin on so I decided to check out the Reveal. At this point, the $6 for the BSE was already a sunk cost. I bought the reveal for $25 and then bought the Wrapsol for $15, which brings it to $40, only $5 more then most cases. I took the BSE off the back of my phone and just decided to put it on the back of the Reveal instead of throwing it away. I could care less about the scratches, I just wanted the better grip. I'm not "protecting" my case with another case. So there's my justification. Nobody is making you do it. Don't do it if you don't want to. I'd personally rather spend $46 on a case that I love then $35 on a case that I'm just ok with.

Hey man, I dig what you're saying. No one is forcing anyone to buy any case. You don't have to justify your spending to me or anyone.:cool:

I just feel that, IMO, it's ridiculous to spend that much on a case, and I wouldn't spend it. If the Reveal cost $50-60 from the start, people would complain: "$50 for a piece of clear plastic?!?"

My total came to $60 because the Wrapsol is listed at $23 on their website (and they're calling it a sale).

The point that I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't have to spend another $25-30 (double the case price) to outfit a case that should already function and look the way that you're making it look and function.


You shouldn't have to put the wrapsol on the iPhone to protect the iPhone from scratches and to stop watermarks.

You shouldn't have to put the BSE on the back of the case for a better grip and to protect the case from scratches.


The Reveal should just do those things.

STEVESKI07
Aug 13, 2009, 11:27 AM
Hey man, I dig what you're saying. No one is forcing anyone to buy any case. You don't have to justify your spending to me or anyone.:cool:

I just feel that, IMO, it's ridiculous to spend that much on a case, and I wouldn't spend it. If the Reveal cost $50-60 from the start, people would complain: "$50 for a piece of clear plastic?!?"

My total came to $60 because the Wrapsol is listed at $23 on their website (and they're calling it a sale).

The point that I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't have to spend another $25-30 (double the case price) to outfit a case that should already function and look the way that you're making it look and function.


You shouldn't have to put the wrapsol on the iPhone to protect the iPhone from scratches and to stop watermarks.

You shouldn't have to put the BSE on the back of the case for a better grip and to protect the case from scratches.


The Reveal should just do those things.


I agree with you. Unfortunately for most people, no company makes that perfect case. For me, the Reveal is as close as it comes. So what I spent for this case is definitely worth it. It's strange how I just happend to buy all these parts separately over a month period and they all happened to come together into one big case, but it seemed to work out just fine for me. Also, if I didn't already have the BSE skin, I wouldn't have purchased it to put on the back of the Reveal. To me, the only important parts are the Wrapsol + Reveal, the BSE back was just thrown on there because I had nowhere else to put it.

rembot
Aug 13, 2009, 11:53 AM
Before i even consider it, i'll need to make sure i can buy most of those products without any ridiculous shipping fees. I live in Ottawa, Canada and sometimes, shipping a piece of plastic can be more costly then the plastic itself.

And two, i'd like more review, or an other review after a week or so, of usage.

I understand you both, buying a skin to protect a phone from the case, and a skin to protect the case sounds crazy, but at the same time, if it does protect it well, then the griffin would be the perfect case for me too, and i wouldnt mind paying extra to get a case im 100% happy with.

Right now i have a candyshell black, i give it a 8.0 out of 10. (too much bulk + buttons hard to press, but great protection, okay looks)
i paid 35$ for it.
for an extra 15 i could get a 9.5 out f 10 case (would be 10 if it wasnt for the price)

redcrow240
Aug 13, 2009, 12:56 PM
just got the reveal case yesterday (havent used it yet cause im waiting for my new white iphone 3gs). I have a wrapsol kit i got for $18 a few weeks ago. I too have a chance to combine these :). I didnt plan for it on purpose. I just finished ordering a simple back to finish the job.

Yes I know to alot of people think this seems stupid, but keep in mind that buying a case in the first place is stupid to some people as well. Id rather spend 40 bucks on assembling the "perfect" combination (as close to it) and not have to do it ever again, than buying case after case after case and still be left wanting. Ive been doing the latter for a while now. I have not seen a case out there that keeps the original look of the phone as much as this one. Might as well get a few other essentials and finish the job. Griffin isnt gonna make a clear scratch resistant case...ever. If they wanted to they couldve done this same thing (apply a BSE type protector on their case or used a better type of plastic).

This is all about looks in the end. If it were about protection this case would be eliminated from anybody's list. It doesnt protect the bezel completely and leaves the bottom exposed.

It sucks that Apple made such a smudgy, glossy, scratch prone, delicate phone in the first place...but there are ways around it if you want :). Just takes a few extra bucks and some creativity (like the one mentioned in this thread)


PS- FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO USE A CASE BUT WANT TO TRY SOMETHING

sand the chrome bezel and volume rocker (look it up on these forums) to a brushed aluminum look, get a screen protector (regular or anti-glare) or film (bodyguardz or BSE) for the front, put a wrapsol on the back and........tada!!, you now have the best "naked" look possible without worrying about scratches or smudges to the bezel or back. Total cost....under $30 if you look. You might already have some of these.

Rayfire
Aug 13, 2009, 01:14 PM
Thanks DocGo for the pictures, it really looks nice though a little bit expensive for the overall cost - I guess worth it if the user is really after the looks. I wonder how good will this go on a white iPhone, people have been saying the "Oreo" effect haha. I might try to do this set-up once my iFrogz Luxe case retires, but it's doing good so far!

cubbie5150
Aug 13, 2009, 11:27 PM
iPhone with Wrapsol skin beside Reveal case
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iPhone with Wrapsol skin inside a Reveal case. Reveal case still without scratches because of a simple back BSE on it.:D
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I've got that exact set-up as of last night. I applied the wrapsol, oh, about a week+ ago. Reveal was delivered this past Monday, & my BSE simple back was delivered yesterday. I also have a black 3G S. and have ZERO watermarking. Only "camera'' I have is my 3G S, so I can't provide additional pics.... This set-up looks like a keeper for me

MemoryMapped
Aug 14, 2009, 08:31 AM
Thanks to the people who were "guinea pigs" with the wrapsol + reveal + BSE. I firmly believe this is the best combination of moderate protection and amazing looks.

I've been fighting with myself all morning about the cost issue though. Initially, I agreed with Surely-- there's just something inherently wrong with making the consumer, an end-user, spend the extra bucks to put together something that actually works.

That said, I don't think there will ever be a "perfect" case made (I deleted a whole rant about how manufacturers don't care, as long they make money).
Also, everyone on this forum is inherently more knowledgable, but at the same time, more critical of cases. I'd say we are a very small minority amongst all iPhone users. The vast majority of users just buy the first "cool" one they see off of the shelf in the Apple/ATT store.

Basically, I'm still fighting with myself. I'm gonna just be happy with my green iSkin solo fx.

Out of curiosity, what case are you using, Surely? Or what is your favorite case?

STEVESKI07
Aug 14, 2009, 09:07 AM
I've got that exact set-up as of last night. I applied the wrapsol, oh, about a week+ ago. Reveal was delivered this past Monday, & my BSE simple back was delivered yesterday. I also have a black 3G S. and have ZERO watermarking. Only "camera'' I have is my 3G S, so I can't provide additional pics.... This set-up looks like a keeper for me

Yeah my camera's batterys are dead and I don't have any extra ones laying around. The camera is crappy and the picture's wouldn't come out very good anyways. Mine looks exactly like DocGo's does though so no real point in posting any more. I love how it looks and feels now, definitely a keeper for me too. Anybody need a slider now? :D

maxap
Aug 14, 2009, 09:33 AM
I've got this Reveal case today and I am not fan of it at all. It looks quite cheap, the quality of the materials used is low. Watermarks, finger prints and other stuff... it is so bad.
I better go back to my Seidio case that is just perfect for me!
;)

Surely
Aug 14, 2009, 10:58 AM
Out of curiosity, what case are you using, Surely? Or what is your favorite case?

I'm currently using an iFrogz Luxe case. I'm quite happy with it in terms of protection. My 3GS is as mint and scratch-free as it was the day I bought it. I have had some issues (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=762322) with the Luxe though- the finish is cracking and peeling off after only one month of use- but that is in the process of being remedied (A free replacement has apparently been shipped- I will update my thread once I receive it).

The case that I am looking at to buy next is the new Seidio Innocase II Surface (http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR3YIPH3G%2DBK) along with the holster. IMO, the key to a good case that will protect the iPhone is having a felt lining inside the case. The Surface has that lining and so does the holster (the iPhone clips on screen-side in, so the felt is there to protect the screen). Plus, the new Surface has a clear piece of plastic that acts as a window over the Apple logo. I like that the Surface shows the logo.

If you search this thread, you will find that I have already given the Reveal a try and ended up returning it. My experience with it starts at post #228.

DocGo
Aug 14, 2009, 11:23 AM
My two favorite cases are:
The Griffin Reveal (with my present set-up of Wrapsol on iPhone and BSE simple back on the Reveal).
Speck Candyshell (black and gray)


I used to like the Innocase II from Seidio but it caused quite a bit of scratches on my Bezel (happened on my 3G and now 3GS). Once my bezel becomes too scratched up, I will do some restoration of it with the thing from RadTech that some folks have posted on in another thread.

Thrilledge
Aug 14, 2009, 04:24 PM
For all the football fans.

If you watched Hard Knocks on HBO last night. You would have seen Chad OchoCinco rocking the Reveal on his White IPhone.

WilliamG
Aug 14, 2009, 04:35 PM
That bottom chrome exposed is a severe no-no. I'll still to my Elan Form.

rembot
Aug 15, 2009, 12:11 AM
I want to use that combo so bad (reveal wrapsol and bse back)
anyone else from Canada ordered those accessories I'd like to know how much shipping we have to pay
3 accessories + 3shippings = ouch my wallet

Skandocious
Aug 15, 2009, 02:10 AM
Well you guys convinced me on the wrapsol, I just ordered mine for $19.99 shipped form Adorama.com. To be honest I've been wanting to go case-less but I didn't like the idea of not being able to put my iPhone on the desk without scratching it. My buddy has the invisibleshield but it's a piece of garbage and it all peeled off. That wrapsol looks sexy and has a lot less intricacy so I imagine that it'll be harder to peel. If I feel like I'm not getting enough protection then I might put the reveal back on, but aside from scratching mine also had the gap at the top of the case between the phone and the rubber which really bothered me. We'll see how it goes-- I'll report back after the wrapsol gets here. I don't plan on using the wrapsol screen protector because I've got a 3GS and that would negate the awesome oleophobic screen, but I will say that I'm very impressed that wrapsol managed to create a screen protector that DOESN'T have that ugly ass orange peel affect. My girlfriend has it and the added friction from the orange peel makes it a real bear to use her phone. In the video review that I saw, you couldn't even tell that the wrapsol screen protector was on it. If I were still using my old 3G I'd definitely use the wrapsol screen protector.

AHDuke99
Aug 19, 2009, 09:04 PM
I got the Wrapsol today in the mail and applied it. It's pretty easy to do, but midway through you think it's not going to work. It protects most of the back of the phone insofar as you won't have to worry about getting scratches when you put it on a table or something of that nature. It also makes it have a nice grip. The iPhone is so slick otherwise that it's prone to slip out of your hands if you weren't careful.

I haven't put it in my Reveal yet, but I assume it will guard against sand and other things putting holes and such on the back of the phone.

Skandocious
Aug 20, 2009, 02:16 AM
I got mine today too but unfortunately I cannot apply the back skin yet because I need to warranty my 3GS first (don't ask). I did apply to the screen protector to my gf's phone and I'm VERY impressed. No orange peel and very responsive to touch-- 10x better than the Zagg that I put on for her before. I've got high hopes for the back skin.

STEVESKI07
Aug 20, 2009, 07:20 AM
I got mine today too but unfortunately I cannot apply the back skin yet because I need to warranty my 3GS first (don't ask). I did apply to the screen protector to my gf's phone and I'm VERY impressed. No orange peel and very responsive to touch-- 10x better than the Zagg that I put on for her before. I've got high hopes for the back skin.

I've had the Zagg and then the BSE and now the Wrapsol. I only wish I didn't waste over $30 before finding the Wrapsol. I go Wrapsol only with no case on weekdays and then put on the Reveal on weekends or when I'm out in areas with a higher potential for a drop. I love my combination so far.

55test55
Aug 21, 2009, 11:11 PM
I took it off and cleaned it after having used the Reveal since launch. There are a couple minor blemishes and scratches that i am not happy at all about, and a few on the case that are annoying as well. However, with cleaning solution i may be able to get those off, i am not sure.

It bothers me, but isnt a huge deal because with any other case i wouldnt even be able to see the back. it may bring resale down a bit if i ever decide to sell it, but i a)doubt i will and b)its still almost perfect. i wouldve used the back skin, but i had never heard about that at launch and i kind of dont care that much. it is a phone, after all. but nice setups. this stuff gets pricey (a case for a case for a case...ahh!).

inf
Aug 25, 2009, 03:52 PM
I got my Reveal today...bought it from Ebay.

Here are my initial toughts...

By the look of the case I would say this is one of the best looking cases I have ever had and tested, and I have got pretty many cases. Before the reveal i had ifrogz luxe which had been my favorite for a long time, but it broke down, i'm waiting my new one to come (i wish they would have a white one for my white iphone, I used the red/black one which is nice too).

Build quality is the thing that makes me a little disappointed. As said many times on this thread, i have also the tiny gap on the lip. And I can already see some dust in there (yes I know...maybe i should clean my apartment more often :D). And this makes me worried...and after reading this whole thread I think Reveal is not going to be on my 3GS very long.

The phone looks gorgeus with the case, but I'm too scared of scratches. I think I'm going to use the Candyshell or the Seidio Innocase II Surface until my new Luxe arrives.

Little offtopic...i really like the Innocase II Surface. I love the design fact that they have left the apple logo "unprotected". I cut a piece of extra screen protector to cover the apple logo.

Too bad that Griffins quality is gone downwards. They make very good accessories but it seems the case business is not their biggest market.

Bit sad :(

Randman
Aug 25, 2009, 03:58 PM
Had a Reveal for a week now. Like it but was honestly surprised how much weight it added via going commando.

sal
Sep 9, 2009, 12:00 AM
The cased looked great for a few days but as many people have said on this thread, the clear back scratches waaaay too easily. It doesn't look good anymore.

The search for a good clear back case continues.

RedCloud75013
Sep 9, 2009, 12:03 PM
I had posted my very first impressions about this case some time ago...
A month later, I must say I still like the reveal. I do not use it in conjunction with any other protection (I'm just not the kind of guy who protects a protection with another protected protection..etc...).

So... yes, the clear back scratches very easily but most of the time, when you take it your phone out, you either hold it in your hand to play with it, or have it by your ear and your hand still masks most of it, or it is on a flat surface, screen up so I don't really care. It still looks amazing when I show it off.

As far as the scratches on the iPhone itself, I have not experienced anything like that. However, the reveal definitely lets some dust, particles, hair, in. Somehow, these find their way inside. While they do not damage the phone itself (unless you apply a considerable pressure on the phone/case), you still have to remove it, clean it, say, every 2 weeks or so... not a big deal, but I see how annoying it can be. The problem is that, for some reason, the reveal just does not 'mold' or fit if you will the iphone that tightly... you can actually press the back of the case with the iphone in, and see that there is still some room. Hence the dust particles getting in.

It does not sound like the best clear case, but I'm not sure there are any other reasonable (in terms of price) alternatives out there yet...

AUSTRALIAN
Sep 26, 2009, 01:19 AM
What the Griffin Reveal iPhone case plus a back skin combination looks like:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3954247981_e6fa6c2fce_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2457/3954247985_f9194f9f1e_o.jpg

(24's Jack Bauer iPhone skin)

- Link source (http://australian24.wordpress.com/24-skin/)

Randman
Sep 26, 2009, 01:26 AM
I have a Reveal. Only major problem is lots of dust gets in the back.

Djlild7hina
Sep 28, 2009, 07:45 PM
I just bought the white reveal... should be coming in tomorrow :D there are also a lot of colors now except they are on preorder

SchneiderMan
Sep 29, 2009, 12:53 AM
Griffin sent me the elen case and i must say, its one of the worst cases i have ever owned. see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZgcjkz-ebk
i will probably give it away soon..
The incase slider is still one of my favorite cases ever made.

tivoboy
Sep 29, 2009, 06:18 AM
What don't you like about the elan? I find it pretty well designed actually, I don't have the shicky micky graphite one though.

55test55
Oct 6, 2009, 03:27 PM
well the reveal is continuing to scratch the back of my phone because of the particles let in, so i guess ill get a different case. its not a huge deal since i wont see the back of the phone when using it, but i would like the phone to still be in pristine condition in case i ever want to sell it (which i guess it wont be now). I am considering contacting griffin to see what they say.

tboooe
Oct 6, 2009, 05:21 PM
well the reveal is continuing to scratch the back of my phone because of the particles let in, so i guess ill get a different case. its not a huge deal since i wont see the back of the phone when using it, but i would like the phone to still be in pristine condition in case i ever want to sell it (which i guess it wont be now). I am considering contacting griffin to see what they say.

I really like my Reveal aside from the dust and scratches to the phone back. This is why I use the Reveal in conjunction with a BSE. Yes the back of the Reveal is scratched and yes there are watermarks but neither of these issues bother me. I have dropped my phone several times causing some serious damage to the Reveal.

tboooe
Oct 6, 2009, 05:43 PM
well the reveal is continuing to scratch the back of my phone because of the particles let in, so i guess ill get a different case. its not a huge deal since i wont see the back of the phone when using it, but i would like the phone to still be in pristine condition in case i ever want to sell it (which i guess it wont be now). I am considering contacting griffin to see what they say.

I really like my Reveal aside from the dust and scratches to the phone back. This is why I use the Reveal in conjunction with a BSE. Yes the back of the Reveal is scratched and yes there are watermarks but neither of these issues bother me. I have dropped my phone several times causing some serious damage to the Reveal.

yentrog31
Oct 10, 2009, 09:06 PM
What the Griffin Reveal iPhone case plus a back skin combination looks like:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3954247981_e6fa6c2fce_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2457/3954247985_f9194f9f1e_o.jpg

(24's Jack Bauer iPhone skin)

- Link source (http://australian24.wordpress.com/24-skin/)

I DID not see anyone braggin on your set-up...Ive never watched 24 but that is one good looking case and skin...congrats!

Aries326
Oct 30, 2009, 12:40 AM
This case is TERRIBLE!!!! Do not buy it!!! I have owned the original iPhone, the iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3GS. I've used various cases - the best being a Vaja case. From day one at the store, I put my 3GS in one of these Griffin cases at the recommendation of the salesperson.

I just removed it from the case today because I have some time to kill. To my surprise, I have ALOT of scratches along the shiny polished edge. In the back, I've got some small chips from debris that apparently got into the case and in between the phone. It looks a lot worse than my original iPhone. I never took this out of its case ever until today to avoid scratching the phone from removing and reapplying the case. I've never even dropped this phone.

I'm VERY disappointed. I had the phone in the case since day one, in the store in the first week of September. Imagine if I had never taken it out of the case? It would have been scuffed up even more. If anyone is skeptical of my results, I will post up some pics as soon as I get back from my trip.

I know, I'm probably being too obsessive-compulsive with wanting my iPhone look shiny and brand new at all time, but at $499, I'd like to keep it looking new and protect it as much as possible.

When I get home, I will definitely have my wife remove my old iPhone 3G from the Griffin case and we'll be buying Vaja cases.