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mgridgaway
Jun 18, 2009, 07:47 PM
So I went to check something in my iBook today (not my main computer, just a back up), and the computer would either freeze at the main screen or wouldn't boot at all. I figured it was just a issue from running Onyx (has happened before, after all) and since I was considering downgrading the machine to Tiger anyway, popped in a Tiger install disc and started the procedure.

About 30-40% in, the installer popped up a message stating that there was an error and to try installing again. Did that, same message. Did that again, verified disc, and zeroed out data, same problem.

Normally I would tend to think that the HDD went bad, but since it zeroed data fine I am not sure. Plus, the HDD is only about 2 years old and the computer is, as I mentioned previously, barely used. Something similar --but not quite-- happened to an old G3 B&W I owned, and replacing the HD did nothing to remedy the situation. i ended up throwing out the computer because it wasn't worth fixing.

So, does anyone have any ideas? I really don't want to open up the thing again, it's a damn pain and I've done it more times than I'd like. If it really is broken I'll probably just put it on eBay as is and use the money to get an iPod Touch, as it'd handle basically everything I do with the computer anyway (email, basic surfing, etc). Alas, would love an iPhone, but am in no way willing to pay $80 a month.

While I'm at it, and this is a bit off topic, how well does the Touch handle web and basic stuff like that? Speedy? Well? Hopefully as well as a iBook...



GfulDedFan
Jun 19, 2009, 11:16 AM
Hard to say about the iBook and I have no experience with one. I started with a MacBook. Is it the restore disk from the iBook or is it just any old Tiger disk? If it's any old restore disk, it needs to be younger (a higher version number) than the version that came on the machine. If it's an older version, that could cause a problem.

The Touch is awesome. I've had one since the beginning (first gen) and I love it. The only downside is you have to feed it with a hotspot instead of just walking around anywhere like the iPhone. If it were only a little bigger, say 10" hmmmm ............... :apple:

-GDF

ewilson6
Jun 19, 2009, 11:31 AM
sounds like your install disk is scratched.

try to find one on ebay!

--Eric

What kind of error is showing? that might help us!

mgridgaway
Jun 20, 2009, 07:55 PM
It's a basic Tiger disc (not specific to ibook), and there is nothing wrong with it. The entire reason I used tiger in the first place was because the leopard boot froze on start. Plus, it passed Tigers own verification during install, so I've ruled that out.

Come to think of it, my girlfriend's mother's mac did the same thing and it was the hdd. Just odd that I'm getting no bad reports and it zeroed data just fine. Normally it'll error out when zeroing data and it finds a bad sector.

If only it could boot via USB...

Also, doesn't show any error period, just says there was an error.

I'm gonna try and partition the disc into 2 and use the second half to see if it'll install properly on a different part of the hdd. if yes then I have my problem.

Edit: Didn't work either... Sigh. It boots from the cd just fine. When it gets to a certain point it'll just error out with an unspecific "could not be installed". I want to believe it's the hdd... but I don't want to spend the money on a new hdd I don't need should I be wrong.

clyde2801
Jun 21, 2009, 07:11 AM
Use disk target mode to hook up your mac using firewire, and see if disk utility can pick up anything.

mgridgaway
Jun 21, 2009, 12:46 PM
Been there, done that. I tried booting from Techtool Pro, and while it boots from my iMac just fine, it just goes into infinite load mode.

Next is for me to remove the Ram stick and see if that's screwing stuff up.

mgridgaway
Jun 21, 2009, 01:49 PM
Alright, I've located the problem. It's either a bad stick of Ram, or a bad Ram slot... Hopefully not the latter, because I have lifetime replacement on the ram from OWC :)

First time I've ever had ram go bad on me. Must not be totally bad though because it's still boots.