Over One Million iPhone 3G S Models Sold on Launch Weekend

[MacRumors]

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Apple announced (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/06/22iphone.html) today that the company has sold over 1 million iPhone 3G S models over this past weekend. The press release notably includes a quote from Steve Jobs:"Customers are voting and the iPhone is winning," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "With over 50,000 applications available from Apple's revolutionary App Store, iPhone momentum is stronger than ever."The sales figures match (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/14/apple-sells-1-million-iphones-10-million-apps-downloaded-in-first-weekend/) those of last year's iPhone 3G launch weekend sales numbers. Apple also reports that six million customers have downloaded the new iPhone 3.0 software which works on the existing 40 million iPhone and iPod touch models.

Article Link: Over One Million iPhone 3G Models Sold on Launch Weekend (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/22/over-one-million-iphone-3g-models-sold-on-launch-weekend/)

[stagi]

Awesome news, I am very happy with my 3GS :)

[shaodw]

take those blackberry's down

[joro]

I believe a lot of the sales were via pre-orders from Apple and AT&T which was a brilliant way to cut down on lines at local stores for the two companies. I remember reading something about the CEO of AT&T being quoted this week as saying they had sold a few hundred thousand via pre-order alone and I’m sure Apple’s pre-orders probably double or tripled that.

[gvegastiger]

And on the same weekend that RIM announced it lost subscribers. I love watching a good competition. Has Palm announced any numbers yet?

[edesignuk]

Undeniably impressive.

<-- Impressed :p

[shk718]

what this article is missing is the fact that its with fewer countries than last year. apple is doing a staged rollout and started with 8 countries vs. 22 last year - so that means over a million in a down economy is truly amazing.

[sushi]

Wow. Those are some pretty awesome numbers.

If memory serves, Apple wanted to sell 10 million cell phones in 1 year when the original iPhone was released.

A couple years later and they hit 1/10 of that in a weekend. :)

I am really curious to see how this version sells in Japan. My guess is that it will be much better than the prior versions.

[thadogg]

Great news:D, and from only 8 countries compared to last years 22

[davidwarren]

maybe clear up the title to reflect 3gS, or is it 3g and 3gS combined??

[alm99]

Count me in as 1 in a million iPhones.

[ryanguill]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

[fishkorp]

maybe clear up the title to reflect 3gS, or is it 3g and 3gS combined??

According to the Apple article it is 1 million of the new 3G S model.

[ob81]

Good news. I just hope that this doesn't take away from any scheduled updated in the future. Too much success and they get lazy.

I bet 3.0 played a big part in this also.

[gt1948]

Congrats to Apple fr a great product...

How many Pre's sold? Was it around 50,000? Sorry Sprint :D:D

[fishkorp]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.
More than half of that 40 million is iPod Touch users. Many of them won't pay $10 for the upgrade. So actual iPhones was somewhere around 17 million I think. Still only ~33% (if you only count phones), but better than the number you're thinking.

[ryanguill]

More than half of that 40 million is iPod Touch users. Many of them won't pay $10 for the upgrade. So actual iPhones was somewhere around 17 million I think. Still only ~33% (if you only count phones), but better than the number you're thinking.

ah, that does make a little more sense. But yeah, still, only a third is still much lower than I would expect. I would be interested in seeing the number on wednesday after it has been out a week and then again after it has been out a month.

[Penguinwrangler]

The truly cool thing about this number, is that I'd be willing to wager that even if only 1/3 of that million are upgrades (and it could be more than that) that means nearly 300,000 iPhone and iPhone 3G models going into the hands of people who either didn't have one before or are upgrading themselves. Can't imagine too many of the older models just getting tossed or tucked in a drawer.

[finetuned]

"Said Steve Jobs"

That's the greatest part of the article, right?

[reckless2k2]

I'm personally glad to see this info because I was getting sick of reading the stories from the major news networks that this year's new iPhone release was doing poorly. They cited the lack of large lines at the stores but AS USUAL the press didn't do their homework to account for the pre-order facts and the availability in many more locations (Apple, AT&T, Walmart, and BestBuy).

[Diode]

I wonder how many phones were sold to new customers who never had an ihine before.

[rdowns]

Nice. APPL up $1.12 in pre-market. $150 here we come.

Also of note, 6 million downloads of OS 3.0.

[bytethese]

Count me as one of those million. Loving the new device so far, much improvement on many levels. :)

[bigandy]

"Said Steve Jobs"

That's the greatest part of the article, right?

Certainly a good point :)

[rdowns]

I wonder how many phones were sold to new customers who never had an ihine before.


While pure speculation, here's an analysts take on the weekend.

http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/22/munster-apple-sold-750000-iphones-last-weekend/?source=yahoo_quote

[agfrg]

Is it just me or Apple didn't used to quote Steve Jobs in PR articles during the past months?

Regarding the iPhone 3G S launch, it's a huge success, even more sucessful than last year's launch (8 vs 21 countries, economy down, etc...).

And I'm one of the 6 million users that downloaded 3.0. Downloaded and installed it in the first hour.

[shk718]

did you guys see that steve jobs was quoted in the announcement ? - first time since he took a leave - i guess this is his coming out party. Welcome back Steve !!!!!!!!!!!

[i.mac]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

a lot of folks are not very much aware on how to upgrade and they go to the apple store to do the upgrade. Others wait for family members to do the upgrade for them, others do not care too much indeed, as you say.

[Ademius]

Apple also reports that six million customers have downloaded the new iPhone 3.0 software which works on the existing 40 million iPhone and iPod touch models.

A mere 15 % has downloaded the long dreaded iPhone OS 3.0?
It may have to do with iPod Touch users not getting it for free, and most people not following MR nor techsites. Good thing iTunes is set to look for updates automatically by default.

I'm really glad the platform has gained such massive interest from developers, something hard to imagine when the iPhone was first released in 2007.

The sales would probably sky-rocket if they stopped the preposteruous exclusivity deals though. Bring on the competition I say.

[hirshnoc]

"Said Steve Jobs"

That's the greatest part of the article, right?

Yeah! That;s like his normal wit, so it's great to know he's feeling better. Hopefully we'll see him around for the music event.

[shk718]

While pure speculation, here's an analysts take on the weekend.

http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/22/munster-apple-sold-750000-iphones-last-weekend/?source=yahoo_quote


that's by gene munster - he also said that apple wouldn't announce a new iphone at wwdc and he said (after they did announce it) that they would sell 500,000 of them the first weekend - this guy is really bad

[cocky jeremy]

So.. the 3GS in its first weekend outsold the 3G in its first weekend.. with less than half the countries? Wow!

[Surklyn]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

I believe this is partially because
1.) iTouch users don't want to pay the $10, for only some of the features... (especially if there is an update coming in September).

2.) Some people don't want to give up their jailbroken phones, yet.. and are waiting for 3.0 to be jailbroken.

[twoodcc]

wow. the same as the 3G? that's pretty good. I'll be getting one a little later

[FSMBP]

Yeah people, believe it or not - not everyone follows tech sites or knows the latest iPhone/Mac OS X news. Not a big surprise as only 6 million downloaded 3.0.

My sister, who has an iPhone, was unaware of the new OS being released (she heard about it in March). So today, we're going to put 3.0 on her iPhone.

I really hope someone catches up to Apple in the cell phone game (although, I doubt anyone will). I, like others, want great competition.

[tivoboy]

Nice. APPL up $1.12 in pre-market. $150 here we come.

Also of note, 6 million downloads of OS 3.0.

I will bet that we see 120$ before we see 150$? Anyone?

[tivoboy]

I actually think MANY touch users are going to upgrade, certainly more than in the past.

[nos]

I will bet that we see 120$ before we see 150$? Anyone?

I'm not selling below 150, that's for sure.

oh well, I'm not selling at all. :D

[NightCastle]

Is it a base ten calculation or a base two calculation?

;)

[Luke1robb]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

I agree, I've been shocked at how many people I've talked to that have NO IDEA about the 3.0 software. Also, I talked to at least one person who was telling me how irritated he was that the new iPhone users (3G S owners) got copy & paste, etc. He was shocked to find out when I told him that he could get those features by syncing with iTunes.

I guess Apple isn't really promoting the 3.0 software to current users, it's either like you follow the stuff and know or you'll find out when you sync up to your iTunes. In the long run, I guess it makes sense, why spend money on people who are getting a free upgrade, but why not have AT&T/Apple send out one of those texts that they sent out for 2.0 saying there's a new firmware available and briefly listing the features?

[avigalante]

And on the same weekend that RIM announced it lost subscribers. I love watching a good competition. Has Palm announced any numbers yet?

Where are you getting your RIM numbers from?

AFAIK, RIM added subscribers in its most recent quarter:

RIM First Quarter Results - June 18
Approximately 3.8 million net new BlackBerry® subscriber accounts were added in the quarter. At the end of the quarter, the total BlackBerry subscriber account base was approximately 28.5 million.

[rdowns]

Is it just me or Apple didn't used to quote Steve Jobs in PR articles during the past months?



Apple hasn't quoted Jobs in a press release since January.

www.apple.com/pr

[DipDog3]

Wish I could have been one of them.

No one had any to buy!

[ajhaji]

Steve's back!

[kdarling]

And on the same weekend that RIM announced it lost subscribers.

No, they didn't.

Blackberry added 3.8 million subscribers last quarter, and sold 7.8 million Blackberries. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10268110-94.html).

What you saw was that the new subscriber numbers didn't increase per quarter.

In other words, they "only" added 3.8 million subscribers this quarter, versus 3.9 million last quarter.

[iPhoneNYC]

Very impressive. And it cracks me up that the NY Times spent the weekend quoting some expert saying to expect only 500,000 in sales.

[kayno]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

What you fail to realize is that iPhone users encompass "everyone" tech savy and not! We the tech savy dwell on all things iPhone but the pretty girl who carries her iPhone and her little dog know nothing about updates. Or the grandma who has one cause her tech savy son recommended it knows nothing about syncing to itunes and upgrading.. You have to remmember that as much as it is the Best phone in the market technology wise.. its also a fad.. hence thats why its sooo good.. P.S. I bet everyone on the forum updated their phones.. "Tech savy"

[talkingfuture]

Thats a lot of iPhones. Wonder how many they'll shift in the next 12 months.

[iGary]

Welcome back, Steve.

[Can]

ah, that does make a little more sense. But yeah, still, only a third is still much lower than I would expect. I would be interested in seeing the number on wednesday after it has been out a week and then again after it has been out a month.

Also, keep in mind that many people are on vacation. I just got home yesterday and was not able to grab the update because I lack (high-speed) internet access at my summer house.

[sushi]

Looks like Steve has been involved while on his medical leave.

:)

Go Steve! :D

[Goona]

Meanwhile we don't know how many Palm Pres were sold.

[MikeinNJ]

My wife and I are very fortunate that our existing cell contract expires this week. AND that Apple brought out a great product. AND we go pick ours up Wednesday (SS hits the bank that morning).

I'm a retired life long IBM'er. The day I retired I bought my first Mac, an LC. 17 years and 7 Macs later I get my first portable handheld computer, the iPhone 3GS...

I went to the local Apple Store late Friday afternoon (my wife works in the same mall) and was amazed how fast the thing is. No wonder AT&T hasn't enabled tethering and MMS yet... if they did their networks would crash from people making and sending videos...

Anyway as a first post here: I've been lurking and reading on this forum for some time. Nice meeting all you folks, a great bunch of people.

Michael

[maflynn]

Wow, I was not expecting that. By all rights this was a smaller type of upgrade then the 3G was and reports of shorter lines also fed the perception that it was going to be a smaller event, but I suppose those folks (like me) purchased their phones online helped bump up the numbers and yet kept the lines short.

[imwoblin]

Very impressive rollout. Having said that, the numbers would have been much higher if the subsidy issue with current 3G owners had been a little more affordable.

[sushi]

Anyway as a first post here: I've been lurking and reading on this forum for some time. Nice meeting all you folks, a great bunch of people.
Welcome to MR! :)

Sounds like you and your wife are going to enjoy your new iPhones. :D

[LagunaSol]

Palm Pre: 50,000 sold in the first weekend
iPhone 3GS: 1,000,000 sold in the first weekend

Another "iPhone killer" goes down in flames. And a hundred million Apple haters wail and gnash their teeth in rage and frustration. Can't wait to see what the Winbot trolls in the Engadget comments section have to say. :D

[zacman]

You should better compare it to the Nokia sales than to Palm, Blackberry or anything else.

For example the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic sold 13 million times in less than 6 months. The N95 sold 17 million until today. I'm sure the Nokia N97 will also outsell the iPhone easily. You just have to check the Hong Kong opening videos on youtube to estimate that.

[Goona]

Palm Pre: 50,000 sold in the first weekend
iPhone 3GS: 1,000,000 sold in the first weekend

Another "iPhone killer" goes down in flames. And a hundred million Apple haters wail and gnash their teeth in rage and frustration. Can't wait to see what the Winbot trolls in the Engadget comments section have to say. :D

AT&T alone outsold all the Pres on pre orders alone.

[t0mat0]

You should better compare it to the Nokia sales than to Palm, Blackberry or anything else.

For example the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic sold 13 million times in less than 6 months. The N95 sold 17 million until today. I'm sure the Nokia N97 will also outsell the iPhone easily. You just have to check the Hong Kong opening videos on youtube to estimate that.

So what are those N97 sales like? Expectations of sales equal to the N95, about 10 million units. Except N97 wasn’t picked up by any US carriers that I know of yet. So Apple ain't doing bad, for a weekend, and in a few countries.

[phpmaven]

I agree, I've been shocked at how many people I've talked to that have NO IDEA about the 3.0 software. Also, I talked to at least one person who was telling me how irritated he was that the new iPhone users (3G S owners) got copy & paste, etc. He was shocked to find out when I told him that he could get those features by syncing with iTunes.

I guess Apple isn't really promoting the 3.0 software to current users, it's either like you follow the stuff and know or you'll find out when you sync up to your iTunes. In the long run, I guess it makes sense, why spend money on people who are getting a free upgrade, but why not have AT&T/Apple send out one of those texts that they sent out for 2.0 saying there's a new firmware available and briefly listing the features?

My guess would be that they didn't want everybody and his brother to be hitting their servers on launch day. They will be sending out emails to everybody soon I'm sure.

[Goona]

You should better compare it to the Nokia sales than to Palm, Blackberry or anything else.

For example the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic sold 13 million times in less than 6 months. The N95 sold 17 million until today. I'm sure the Nokia N97 will also outsell the iPhone easily. You just have to check the Hong Kong opening videos on youtube to estimate that.

Please give us some sources for those numbers.

[sushi]

You should better compare it to the Nokia sales than to Palm, Blackberry or anything else.
Actually, in this case no.

It's the iPhone 3Gs model compared to the Pre these days.

And in that arena, the 3Gs comes out on top.

However, your point is taken in that other companies sell many more cell phones than Apple. Nobody is denying that.

[jholzner]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

You might think that but in the office where I work I know two others who have an iPhone 3G and neither has updated yet. In fact, neither of them have ever even connected their phones to iTunes or their computers and didn't even know about the update until I mentioned it. Welcome to the masses...

[gcmexico]

nice to be a part of the million sold...best iphone yet:D

[Gathomblipoob]

Aah - the iPhone stays the developer magnet that it is...:D

[ryanguill]

You might think that but in the office where I work I know two others who have an iPhone 3G and neither has updated yet. In fact, neither of them have ever even connected their phones to iTunes or their computers and didn't even know about the update until I mentioned it. Welcome to the masses...

I certainly understand that there is going to be a segment of the iphone user population that is not tech-savvy and not ever going to upgrade the phone in their life. There is probably also a segment who will never install a single app on their phone. I am just saying that I am surprised that that segment of the population would be so large.

Still, it is probably still early. There has been no SMS notification from AT&T like there was with the 2.0 like the other commenter mentioned, and many people who do sync with iTunes on a regular basis, it may not have checked yet for updates ( I think it only does it automatically every 7 days). I know if I hadn't hit the check for updates button it wouldn't have checked until the 25th I think.

Not to say that 6 million is anything to sneeze at, I am just remarking that to my admittedly ignorant assumptions, I expected a larger percentage that what they are announcing.

[nos]

You might think that but in the office where I work I know two others who have an iPhone 3G and neither has updated yet. In fact, neither of them have ever even connected their phones to iTunes or their computers and didn't even know about the update until I mentioned it. Welcome to the masses...

What's the point of having an iPhone if you don't connect it to your PC/MAC? :confused:

Do they have/used to have iPods too? ;)

[MikeinNJ]

My wife was patiently enthusiastic in January. Two weeks ago I was glued to my computer following the WWDC address... I showed her videos of the phone's capabilities and she was very impressed. Over this weekend I scrounged up APPs I knew she would like and now she can't wait. It's not merely the phone, but what you can do on it and with it...

Like I said it will be my first handheld computer.


PS I need some feedback, sorry for any possible threadjack. We live in the sticks in Central Jersey, nice area. Our Verizon coverage is pretty lousy. Knowing the bad rep that AT&T Network has I am concerned about coverage being good enough I can make use of what the iPhone can do on our property. We have cable internet. I was considering getting an Airport Extreme - which if I read the specs right makes my home a WiFi hotspot - so I know my home signal will be pretty strong... Anyone techie enough to help me on this I would appreciate the advice...

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

That is better than what was anticipated I believe.

[peterdevries]

Meanwhile we don't know how many Palm Pres were sold.

I read somewhere (I think it was Engadget) that it was around 50.000..

[Lepton]

Most people don't follow iPhone update details the way we do. But don't worry, remember that iTunes automatically checks for updates. So over the next several weeks, people will be prompted to get the update automatically. Almost all people will get it eventually, I'm sure.

[zacman]

Please give us some sources for those numbers.

http://www.mobilewhack.com/nokia-xpressmusic-5800-13-million-sold-and-going-strong/

[iGary]

Palm Pre: 50,000 sold in the first weekend
iPhone 3GS: 1,000,000 sold in the first weekend

Another "iPhone killer" goes down in flames. And a hundred million Apple haters wail and gnash their teeth in rage and frustration. Can't wait to see what the Winbot trolls in the Engadget comments section have to say. :D

Remember - it took about 70 days for the original iPhone to sell a million.

I wouldn't count the Pre out by any means, but these numbers are impressive.

[andyvp]

I tried all weekend to get BUT Best Buy can't keep them in stock. (I have gift cards) Why oh why can't they get some in????

[Romanesq]

My wife and I are very fortunate that our existing cell contract expires this week. AND that Apple brought out a great product. AND we go pick ours up Wednesday (SS hits the bank that morning).

I'm a retired life long IBM'er. The day I retired I bought my first Mac, an LC. 17 years and 7 Macs later I get my first portable handheld computer, the iPhone 3GS...

I went to the local Apple Store late Friday afternoon (my wife works in the same mall) and was amazed how fast the thing is. No wonder AT&T hasn't enabled tethering and MMS yet... if they did their networks would crash from people making and sending videos...

Anyway as a first post here: I've been lurking and reading on this forum for some time. Nice meeting all you folks, a great bunch of people.

Michael

It's pretty great that a long time Big Blue guy like yourself can go beyond and take up the next wave.

And you are probably right about the AT&T system getting hit. Each year on iPhone weekend their system struggles mightily just to handle the activations.

A big hello and welcome from Hoboken. :cool:

[Goona]

Remember - it took about 70 days for the original iPhone to sell a million.

I wouldn't count the Pre out by any means, but these numbers are impressive.

Right and the original iPhone was 600 dollars, how much is the Pre? The sales are pathetic, no wonder they don't want to release sales.

[thogs_cave]

Spousal unit and I wandered into the AT&T store (where we got our original iPhones) Sunday afternoon, missed the rush, and ordered ours to replace her 1st-gen and my 3G.

It's even worth it - we both find ourselves using our iPhones more than our "main" machines. Having everything right at hand is addictive, in a good way. Plus, since I'm legally blind and have a very restricted field of vision, the small screen and decent interface make it easier for me.

Which means I'll have to find a way to sell off a couple of iPhones. I'm sure I'll find a way. :D

[diamond.g]

I certainly understand that there is going to be a segment of the iphone user population that is not tech-savvy and not ever going to upgrade the phone in their life. There is probably also a segment who will never install a single app on their phone. I am just saying that I am surprised that that segment of the population would be so large.

Still, it is probably still early. There has been no SMS notification from AT&T like there was with the 2.0 like the other commenter mentioned, and many people who do sync with iTunes on a regular basis, it may not have checked yet for updates ( I think it only does it automatically every 7 days). I know if I hadn't hit the check for updates button it wouldn't have checked until the 25th I think.

Not to say that 6 million is anything to sneeze at, I am just remarking that to my admittedly ignorant assumptions, I expected a larger percentage that what they are announcing.
I think the bold part is some of why AT&T hasn't enabled MMS and Tethering. You have to have 3.0 to get the feature and if they want to do it right, they will try to enable it for as many phones as possible all at once. That requires more 3G users to upgrade.

[khunsanook]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

I spoke with a friend yesterday who is a long-time mac user with a completely Mac, multi-computer/media center network at home. When I mentioned the new 3.0 iPhone update he said "huh? what iphone update?" He's an on-call doctor and a bit busy, but it goes to show that Apple's updates can take a week or so to filter through their user base. I think there are a lot of people who use their Apple products all day, every day without caring about the next software update, beta build, or Woz sighting. :D

Also, not everyone wants to be a software update guinea pig. My Touch's wifi reception is much worse after the update, and 3.0 is a little choppy, but I love a lot of the new features. Hopefully Apple will issue an update soon to fix some of the bugs.

[Romanesq]

Wow, I was not expecting that. By all rights this was a smaller type of upgrade then the 3G was and reports of shorter lines also fed the perception that it was going to be a smaller event, but I suppose those folks (like me) purchased their phones online helped bump up the numbers and yet kept the lines short.

When Apple met AT&T's demand for in store activation, it made the process long and arduous for everyone.

Since it's thought that 58% of buyers were iPhone upgraders, it's clear that not everyone bought into the media suggestions that the 3Gs was only a nominal improvement.

There's little doubt that the online purchases drove this figure. And AT&T did very well this time with a real allotment from Apple.

Several factors worked in Apple's favor here. Upgrading an existing model made it easier to make and distribute and AT&T was able to add substantial numbers in sales by getting a real inventory mostly for preorders.

Apple clearly did several times that, probably most of it was home delivery. And then the late rally was a big help pretty sure when the early upgrade option came up late last week for July, August and September upgraders.

When that happened, I couldn't sell my 3g fast enough. Sold it on Thursday and even managed to snag a 32GB from my local AT&T on Friday. That AT&T had even a handful of inventory after preorders was a shock. I'm glad they did.

Now with the early users all giving great reports on the speed and new features, the momentum is clearly in Apple's favor.

Steve's statement was perfect IMHO too. He emphasized the 50,000 applications as being a huge advantage. And it clearly is.

[Goona]

I read somewhere (I think it was Engadget) that it was around 50.000..

Those are just guesses by analyst just like anoter analyst said Apple will only sell 500 000 iPhones this weekend. Palm won't release the numbers. I guess we have to wait.

[gdeusthewhizkid]

My wife was patiently enthusiastic in January. Two weeks ago I was glued to my computer following the WWDC address... I showed her videos of the phone's capabilities and she was very impressed. Over this weekend I scrounged up APPs I knew she would like and now she can't wait. It's not merely the phone, but what you can do on it and with it...

Like I said it will be my first handheld computer.


PS I need some feedback, sorry for any possible threadjack. We live in the sticks in Central Jersey, nice area. Our Verizon coverage is pretty lousy. Knowing the bad rep that AT&T Network has I am concerned about coverage being good enough I can make use of what the iPhone can do on our property. We have cable internet. I was considering getting an Airport Extreme - which if I read the specs right makes my home a WiFi hotspot - so I know my home signal will be pretty strong... Anyone techie enough to help me on this I would appreciate the advice...


Im in union county nj. and i use a apple extreme. It's very easy to set up and it will transmit wifi internet thru your whole house. Don't worry it will easlily set up a password for u to lock ya internet down so you and ya household can use the internet only. And if you ever forget ya password. Just hold the reset button on the back. Easy as pie. At&T has some pretty spotty coverage in nj but central jersey i believe gets good reception.

[wizard]

Wow, I was not expecting that. By all rights this was a smaller type of upgrade then the 3G was and reports of shorter lines also fed the perception that it was going to be a smaller event, but I suppose those folks (like me) purchased their phones online helped bump up the numbers and yet kept the lines short.

I've heard this line of thought before, that is this is a minor update. From my standpoint it is a bigger update than the move from the original to 3G. With the "S" you are getting considerable improvements.


Dave

[jrob]

PS I need some feedback, sorry for any possible threadjack. We live in the sticks in Central Jersey, nice area. Our Verizon coverage is pretty lousy. Knowing the bad rep that AT&T Network has I am concerned about coverage being good enough I can make use of what the iPhone can do on our property.


I should add, on top of the good Apple Airport advice, that AT&T has a pretty detailed coverage map on their website:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/

[needthephone]

Good news for apple but I was hoping that when they launch in Australia this Friday I could stroll in and pick myself up a 32 GB White just like that.

My wife needs a phone as hers is on its last legs so she is having my 3G.

I was thinking I was the only person who wanted one too...I like the fact that it's so understated like a Q car. It looks the same but its compleatly new.

I really want the camera and video- All the examples Iv'e seen have just totally sold.

I hope no one else wants one though, not in Sydney.

[samac92]

What's the point of having an iPhone if you don't connect it to your PC/MAC? :confused:

Do they have/used to have iPods too? ;)

Many people will very rarely or even never connect their iPhone to their computer, for example my sister who owns an iPod, synced it once an never since, and why would she? She has all her music on there and rarely buys any more.

[Thex1138]

5 million by months end....expected with sales in more than 72 countries :D

[JayLenochiniMac]

So much for the so-called "minor update" :rolleyes:

[AdeFowler]

This can't be right. Gene Munster said they'd sold 750k and he's an analyst! :rolleyes:

[Hattig]

Right and the original iPhone was 600 dollars, how much is the Pre? The sales are pathetic, no wonder they don't want to release sales.

It's sad really, because the Pre's software looks promising and it incorporates some nice ideas and is ahead in some places - well, that's the impression I got from the AnandTech review.

Of course it looks fat, has a pointless hard keyboard, and is stuck on a third rate network within one country.

[nfl46]

TAKE that PALM!

I guess a lot of people LOVE the 3G S! :apple::D:D:D

[tivoboy]

I'm not selling below 150, that's for sure.

oh well, I'm not selling at all. :D

honestly, I'm short to 110$ before end July, but 120$ is a good rebuy target.

[peterdevries]

Last year Apple would have sold far more in the first week, if supply would have been greater (in Europe at least). The iPhones in The Netherlands were sold out within 5 minutes everywhere.

Couldn't it be the case that supply of Pre's at this moment is just too low, or are they already readily available everywhere without having to be put on a waiting list?

[DougB541]

TAKE that PALM!

I guess a lot of people LOVE the 3G S! :apple::D:D:D

:rolleyes:

Anyway, not downplaying the numbers but I think a lot of people who got a 3GS were former iPhone owners.

At least when I passed the line in NYC EVERYONE had an iPhone out.

Still good nonetheless.

[planethitsradio]

Count me in as the one in a million sold on the launch weekend.

I was #2 in line at my city (Ottawa, ON) - Rogers didn't let us pre-order the device. Got a 32GB white model, nice and slick.

I had so many problems with the activation of the unit (The demand brought Rogers upgrade servers down) and I got 50 different answers from customer service about hardware eligibility.

I got a call from the office of the president, after all is said and done, the price was $699 when I bought it outright, not $799 as it should of been, and I get a $620.00 refund for all of my troubles. I am also going to sell my old 3G, so I MADE money upgrading, and Rogers kept a customer happy.

Thank you Rogers! I love tethering, MMS, and the swanky new 3GS!

[spazzcat]

Last year Apple would have sold far more in the first week, if supply would have been greater (in Europe at least). The iPhones in The Netherlands were sold out within 5 minutes everywhere.

Couldn't it be the case that supply of Pre's at this moment is just too low, or are they already readily available everywhere without having to be put on a waiting list?

I haven't heard anyone talk about the Pre being hard to find???

[DougB541]

Last year Apple would have sold far more in the first week, if supply would have been greater (in Europe at least). The iPhones in The Netherlands were sold out within 5 minutes everywhere.

Couldn't it be the case that supply of Pre's at this moment is just too low, or are they already readily available everywhere without having to be put on a waiting list?

THe Pre has been extremely suppl constrained since launch. Its pretty much waiting list at all sprint stores.

The same issue the iPhone 2.5G had....it would've sold more its opening weekend if they had the supply (it sold 150k if i remember correctly).

Clearly Apple made sure they had inventory this time around haha.

[DougB541]

I haven't heard anyone talk about the Pre being hard to find???

:rolleyes: Read the news then. Its been supply constrained.

[peterdevries]

Clearly Apple made sure they had inventory this time around haha.

Exactly, why else the phased roll-out in only 8 countries?

Here in the Netherlands pre-ordering was opened on friday last week, making it easier to predict sales and estimate supply. They obviously learned something from last year.

[MikeinNJ]

Thanks to everyone for the assist, most especially reminding me of the COVERAGE map which I scaled down to the street levels - it appears we are in a GOOD coverage area by AT&Ts standards. Once we get the phones (32GB versions) and the bills paid if there is ANY money left I will get the Airport Extreme - it looks like it would give our iPhones cable internet speed no matter what the coverage is. We live in on an acre and must have 100 trees on the property, the whole area is like that.

I like that I can easily setup the Extreme and lock it down as far as who has access to it. Terrific !!

Thanks again for the welcomes and assist... Anyone ever need a recipe (I know that sounds weird here) I am Cordon Bleu trained and do food writing... I have hundreds of recipes online... Just ask

[LagunaSol]

It's sad really, because the Pre's software looks promising and it incorporates some nice ideas and is ahead in some places

I say anyone that hurts WinMo is a friend in my book! ;)

And Microsoft fails yet again to anticipate the next great wave in computing - your pocket. Can't wait to see their Zune TouchPhone 3GSuper Platinum Edition iPhone knockoff. :p

Throw a chair for me today, Mr. Ballmer.

[spazzcat]

:rolleyes: Read the news then. Its been supply constrained.

I guess I should say I haven't heard any updates on the Pre.

[peterdevries]

Thanks to everyone for the assist, most especially reminding me of the COVERAGE map which I scaled down to the street levels - it appears we are in a GOOD coverage area by AT&Ts standards. Once we get the phones (32GB versions) and the bills paid if there is ANY money left I will get the Airport Extreme - it looks like it would give our iPhones cable internet speed no matter what the coverage is. We live in on an acre and must have 100 trees on the property, the whole area is like that.

I like that I can easily setup the Extreme and lock it down as far as who has access to it. Terrific !!

Thanks again for the welcomes and assist... Anyone ever need a recipe (I know that sounds weird here) I am Cordon Bleu trained and do food writing... I have hundreds of recipes online... Just ask

Good luck.

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[bretm]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

Or they read about how it's bricking wifi on a lot of phones. My included. It's just nuts. On my first gen, first day iPhone, that has survived a swim in the pool - the OS 3.0 update has screwed up the Wifi. Reset network settings seemed to work, although it still takes a few minutes sometimes to find the network. And when it does reception is down, and at times it has a full Wifi signal, but speed tests show it's slower than a modem. Other times it's working great at full speed. Other times the wifi just cuts on and off.

I would not recommend the update unless you have a 3G phone and can use the 3G as a backup. edge isn't much of a backup.

[LagunaSol]

Anyway, not downplaying the numbers but I think a lot of people who got a 3GS were former iPhone owners.

Not sure what the relevance of new vs. upgraders is. After all, those old iPhones will probably end up in the hands of new iPhone users. My wife got my old phone - it's her first iPhone. So upgraders are a good thing, as they probably bring a new user along with them.

Competitors are going to have a hard time battling the iPhone ecosystem.

[spazzcat]

Or they read about how it's bricking wifi on a lot of phones. My included. It's just nuts. On my first gen, first day iPhone, that has survived a swim in the pool - the OS 3.0 update has screwed up the Wifi. Reset network settings seemed to work, although it still takes a few minutes sometimes to find the network. And when it does reception is down, and at times it has a full Wifi signal, but speed tests show it's slower than a modem. Other times it's working great at full speed. Other times the wifi just cuts on and off.

I would not recommend the update unless you have a 3G phone and can use the 3G as a backup. edge isn't much of a backup.

Have you tried doing a network reset. That normally helps...

[kdarling]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me.

1) As others have pointed out, half that 40 million are iPods, not iPhones. As a touch owner, I have to say that it gets a little tiring having to shell out money for each update. Sometimes you just feel like skipping it for now.

2) Probably over half the 3GS buyers are coming from a 3G. They're in no rush to update their old phone. Too busy playing with the new one!

3) With popularity, comes owners who aren't Apple crazy. A lot of iPhone buyers don't even own a Mac, or care to keep up with Apple news. I.e. they have a life :)

[bretm]

I say anyone that hurts WinMo is a friend in my book! ;)

And Microsoft fails yet again to anticipate the next great wave in computing - your pocket. Can't wait to see their Zune TouchPhone 3GSuper Platinum Edition iPhone knockoff. :p

Throw a chair for me today, Mr. Ballmer.

I would still like to see Apple implement a finder on the iphone. And allow it to be used like a harddrive. Make it a mini computer, not a phone with programs. They kept touting it as full OSX with a different front end, but it's certainly not that.

[str1f3]

I'm surprised by this. It makes the Pre opening week look like a garage sale.

[Penguinwrangler]

:rolleyes:

Anyway, not downplaying the numbers but I think a lot of people who got a 3GS were former iPhone owners.

At least when I passed the line in NYC EVERYONE had an iPhone out.

Still good nonetheless.

Well, yes, because it's not like those iPhone OGs and 3Gs are getting tossed in the trash, they're getting handed to brothers, sisters, girlfriends, fathers, and mothers...aka...new iPhone customers.

[bretm]

Have you tried doing a network reset. That normally helps...

Yes. That's why I said I "reset network." That brought it back for about a day to almost normal. But gradually the same errors keep creeping back until you start saying "wtf?"

If network reset was the real answer, Apple would have announced that. At this time, I think it's a band aid that works for some, not for others, and for a little while for some too.

I'm not sweating it, I plan on getting the 3Gs soon, but before I retire this one, I want it working wifi so I can still use it as a touch.

[MikeinNJ]

Good luck.

and a little request. Please change your posting (for future postst) text back to normal and black. This bold green has the same effect as using caps-lock.

I like another poster here, am legally blind. Can't hardly see out of my left eye (good luck renewing my driver's license this year) and have restricted vision. I use the BOLD font so I can see what I typed... I'll change the color, tho not to RED. LOL

Maybe I'll go with Big Blue...

[igazza]

congrats 1 million is awesome

We get 3GS here on friday, available on 5 carriers :D

[zgh1999]

All Hail Chairman And Supreme Leader S. Jobs.

[peterdevries]

I like another poster here, am legally blind. Can't hardly see out of my left eye (good luck renewing my driver's license this year) and have restricted vision. I use the BOLD font so I can see what I typed... I'll change the color, tho not to RED. LOL

Maybe I'll go with Big Blue...

Aaah, wasn't aware of that (how could I be). Didn't mean to offend in any way. The blue is better than the green though, and most likely for you too as it contrasts better than green, right?

[MACdaddy859]

I still wish I would have got it for $199...Oh well I still LOVE my White 16GB. The Apple IPhone is the reason I got interested in Apple the first place. And to think back two years ago I was using Windows everything. *tear* :( Glad I made the switch :)

[Goona]

:rolleyes:

Anyway, not downplaying the numbers but I think a lot of people who got a 3GS were former iPhone owners.

At least when I passed the line in NYC EVERYONE had an iPhone out.

Still good nonetheless.

Yeah and I'm sure the number of new iphone customers surpases all the Pres out there.

[Jamie 360]

Can anyone confirm whether or not their vibe duos work properly with the 3GS?? I can't get the answer call button to work which is still functioning on my 2G.

I'm still using my old sim card, waiting for the new one to activate. :mad: I just really wanted this straightened out so I can go back to conducting business. I'm kicking myself for not bringing my 2G to work with me today.

[MikeinNJ]

Aaah, wasn't aware of that (how could I be). Didn't mean to offend in any way. The blue is better than the green though, and most likely for you too as it contrasts better than green, right?

No offense taken. Was actually relieved to see someone else online has my affliction...

Pretty soon I'll be able to sit in my backyard, watch my chickens and baby chicks (we raise exotic breeds of bantam cochins) AND post here via my iPhone... Now that will be tre cool

[Lancetx]

So much for all the haters that said this was only a "minor update" and that opening weekend sales would be no more than 500,000. :rolleyes: It certainly makes the 50,000 Pre's sold by Palm on it's opening weekend look positively miniscule. lol

[MovieCutter]

Well that's good news. I'm just glad to have a phone that can finally keep up with me.

[Kyle23]

I am impressed with the sales figures, It will show AT$T that allowing 3G owners to upgrade at the better price point really increased sales. Glad to see that Steve is doing better and I am loving my new 3GS.

[BongoBanger]

Nice figures but slightly disingenuous - this is 1 million units shifted including pre-orders which were open for a week before, not 1 million units sold on the day as was the case for the 3G. Also, when we're talking about 8 countries rather than 22 I'm going to bet that those 8 countries account for at least 80% of 3G sales (we know the US alone accounts for about 50%).

I'll be more interested in the quarterly figures and AT&T new subscriptions (to see if user base is expading or it's just renewals) although I expect these to be pretty healthy.

[Wordwise]

More than half of that 40 million is iPod Touch users. Many of them won't pay $10 for the upgrade. So actual iPhones was somewhere around 17 million I think. Still only ~33% (if you only count phones), but better than the number you're thinking.

I assume Touch owners like myself are waiting for the rush to die down. Lets also not forget that if you're a newbie or non-fanatic, the only way you'll find out about the update is by checking the availability of 3.0 through iTunes' update process.

[Goona]

So much for all the haters that said this was only a "minor update" and that opening weekend sales would be no more than 500,000. :rolleyes: It certainly makes the 50,000 Pre's sold by Palm on it's opening weekend look positively miniscule. lol

LOL miniscule, it's downright pathetic considering the hype. Heck they couldn't outsell the 1st iphone and that was like 600 dollars.

[iGary]

Right and the original iPhone was 600 dollars, how much is the Pre? The sales are pathetic, no wonder they don't want to release sales.

How can you say the sales are pathetic if they haven't released any sales figures yet? :confused:

[jayenh]

Have you tried doing a network reset. That normally helps...

This.

I had the wifi issue after installing 3.0. i'd click the screen on and it wouldn't pick up wifi like it used too, then it would randomly come and go... just forget the network and add it again and all is sorted.

as for the conversation about plugging the phone in to your PC/Mac. I'm one of the people who rarely does it (although I'm a tech/gadget freak and follow the rumors and stuff so plugged it in for 3.0). some people just don't need to. i can't "acquire" music any more, so if I'm going to buy an album i do it straight to the phone, although it's not something i do often. the type of music i listen to can be broadcast in pod casts which i get every 2 weeks and will maybe sync when i have 3 or 4 new ones. i didn't update to 2.1.1 or what ever the last version was until about 2 weeks ago :)

[Goona]

How can you say the sales are pathetic if they haven't released any sales figures yet? :confused:

Maybe that's the reason they aren't releasing it, because it's pathetic, so right now people have to guess.

[Surely]

Amazing numbers.

I bought mine yesterday, I'm glad to be able to say I was a part of Launch Weekend.

The Apple Store at Century City was very organized- I was in line for 5-10 minutes and I was out of the store in 25 minutes. I didn't preorder- I just showed up at around 3 pm and got lucky. Considering how crazy that store was all day, the staff was still energetic and very helpful. One of them even offered to buy my 1st gen 16 GB iPhone off me!

A good experience and a fantastic product.

[JAQ]

The press release notably includes a quote from Steve Jobs' head, now preserved in a jar for futurama generations:There, I fixed that for you. :)

[dohspc]

But hey don't forget about the pre. Sprint and Palm would like to remind you that they sold 50K its first weekend. LOL! :eek: :apple::apple::apple:

[jrichard012]

Had a feeling this was going to out-sell predictions. However, I have had a laughable effort to buy one.

AT&T listed me as not eligible until December having bought two fully subsidized 3G's on launch day last July. I needed to pay full retail this year. I was going to do this, but decided to check with an AT&T store to verify my status on the Monday prior to Friday's launch. They said I was eligible for a pre-(something) then and there of $399. I had several Apple gift cards that I wanted to offset the price with and asked if and when I went to Apple, would Apple see this price? They said "yes, it's right here," indicating their computerized account system in my name. The web still showed me differently.

Then, on launch day, I stopped by the same phone store I bought the 3G's from and verified that the $399 was still the case. They said yes. I proceeded to the Apple store and waited in line for 100 minutes until I was directed to an employee. He went back and picked up a black 16GB and handed it to me. He got out his hand-held point-of-sale terminal and started the process. He told me I was not eligible for any subsidy and listed by the phone company as needing to pay full retail. After telling him the above, he sent me to a Genius and his manager.

The Genius made a valiant effort to call somebody at AT&T to rectify my situation. They said my account had several "penalties", etc. I told them, through the Genius, that on the contrary, my account was always paid in full ($230 monthly fees) and in fact, I had a small credit balance from overpaying last time. They ended up saying I was "eligible" for the $399 price on or after July 11th.

On the way home, I again stopped by the AT&T store and was told the $399 was available to me then and there. However, they were sold out of what I wanted. As an aside, the sales guy said I was one of a very small number of customers that was able to get a free upgrade to my DSL line to their fastest available offering.

So, if I am such a valuable customer, with everything under our roof through AT&T, then why was I listed as not eligible for ANY subsidy? Were it not for my efforts, this would have remained in effect.

I am still showing a full retail price this December when going through Apple's web ordering utility. And, I find it difficult to accept that AT&T would allow their inventory to deplete over a weekend with high demand from buyers. I'm still waiting for the shipment of more 3GS's.

[JonboyDC]

What's the point of having an iPhone if you don't connect it to your PC/MAC?
I think that for most people, the only time they connect their iPhone to their computer is when they have new music in iTunes that they want to load onto the phone, or when they have some photos on the phone that they want to load into iPhoto (or whatever app Windows users have). I consider myself a power user of my iPhone, and I can go weeks without connecting to my iMac. (Why should I, when I can update apps on the phone over wifi, and when MobileMe syncs all the contacts, e-mail, and calendar entries I make? Especially now that I can get podcasts loaded directly onto the phone without iTunes.) I follow Mac news, so I know when to update, but I suspect that lots of users will gradually update over the coming weeks and months as they have some other reason to plug their phone into their machine.

[bowlerman625]

Just when I thought the best device out there could not get any better! This new one is great. I upgraded primarily for what was under hood and I am in no way unhappy with it so far! And that is even with paying the extra 200 bucks! I'd do it again if I had to.

For those of you holding off....go for it, you will be very pleased

[Kwill]

Does the one million include pre-sales (not "Pre" sales)?

[Goona]

Where is that dude at Palm who said all the iphone owners would be switching to Palm Pres?

[uberamd]

I was one of the 1 million, and I love my new white 16GB 3G S. I upgraded from my black 3G for $200, and it was worth every penny. The phone is FAST, camera works great, video is great quality, and did I mention this phone is fast?

Apple has a real winner on their hands. This makes me laugh even harder at those people who said the 3G S is a minor upgrade. They have no idea what they are talking about.

[DougB541]

LOL miniscule, it's downright pathetic considering the hype. Heck they couldn't outsell the 1st iphone and that was like 600 dollars.

...again.

Supply constrained. Its sold over 200k since...still supply constrained.

...eh, forget it haha.

[BongoBanger]

Does the one million include pre-sales (not "Pre" sales)?

Yes. Still impressive though.

[michael.lauden]

But hey don't forget about the pre. Sprint and Palm would like to remind you that they sold 50K its first weekend. LOL! :eek: :apple::apple::apple:

and don't forget the overall company size of Palm vs Apple. not to mention many people buying the pre will be switching from phones where the main feature is 'push to talk' on sprint.

saw the end of sonoma last night on NASCAR - and they put a giant Palm Pre sprint logo on top of Kahne's car in victory lane. i'd say that 'free' advertising to that many people won't hurt palm

[Goona]

and don't forget the overall company size of Palm vs Apple. not to mention many people buying the pre will be switching from phones where the main feature is 'push to talk' on sprint.

saw the end of sonoma last night on NASCAR - and they put a giant Palm Pre sprint logo on top of Kahne's car in victory lane. i'd say that 'free' advertising to that many people won't hurt palm

WTF does size have to do with anything, RIM sells more phones than Apple but yet Apple is a bigger company.

[kdarling]

Speaking of presale orders:

Samsung Jet passes two million in presales (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/06/22/wildly-popular-samsung-jet-breaks-the-two-million-mark-for-preorders/)

800Mhz, 5MP camera, 3.1" 800x480 AMOLED touchscreen.

Samsung's on a roll these days, with so many large touchscreen WVGA AMOLED phones coming out. Really giving HTC a run for their money.

The 3.7" AMOLED Omnia II (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10264584-1.html)is going to sell like crazy on Verizon.

[casmith07]

but, but, but the 3G S won't possibly sell as well as the 3G! Who will actually upgrade!? The differences are minimal!?!? :rolleyes: ;)

[marco114]

Speaking of presale orders:

Samsung Jet passes two million in presales (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/06/22/wildly-popular-samsung-jet-breaks-the-two-million-mark-for-preorders/)

800Mhz, 5MP camera, 3.1" 800x480 AMOLED touchscreen.

Samsung's on a roll these days, with so many large touchscreen WVGA AMOLED phones coming out. Really giving HTC a run for their money.

The 3.6" AMOLED Omnia II (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10264584-1.html)is going to sell like crazy on Verizon.

Looks really nice... glad to see some possible competition.

[Clix Pix]

I imagine that over the next week or two or the next couple of months, sales will continue to soar. I know three people who will be buying 3G S⃣ iPhones over the next little while and I'm sure that there are many, many more. I'm planning to move on beyond my 3G by getting the 3G S⃣ sometime this week once the store has more inventory again and initial commotion has settled down, not to mention activations back on a smooth track. One friend will be a first-time customer when she gets hers either this week or next week. Another friend will also be a first-time iPhone user once her other cell phone contract runs out at the end of August. Multiply us by many, many other people and I'm sure that Apple will be selling a lot more 3G S⃣ iPhones over the next several months.

[Spanky Deluxe]

"Said Steve Jobs"

That's the greatest part of the article, right?

Agreed 100%.

ah, that does make a little more sense. But yeah, still, only a third is still much lower than I would expect. I would be interested in seeing the number on wednesday after it has been out a week and then again after it has been out a month.

A lot of users don't sync up their iPhones all the time. My has only synced about three times since she got her phone. She charges it with a dock and mains adapter by the bed and doesn't really use the iPod functionality at all. She's only got the 3.0 software because I updated it for her.

[Razeus]

How many of those 1 million were in the US?

[davidbrummy]

Agreed 100%.



A lot of users don't sync up their iPhones all the time. My has only synced about three times since she got her phone. She charges it with a dock and mains adapter by the bed and doesn't really use the iPod functionality at all. She's only got the 3.0 software because I updated it for her.

My wife is in the same boat. I sync it for her as back up once a month and I installed 3.0. She does love her iPhone.

[meagain]

Steve spoke. I happy.

[kdarling]

I imagine that over the next week or two or the next couple of months, sales will continue to soar.

If so, that would be unusual.

Historically, iPhone sales have dropped after each new model launch, getting lower and lower until the next model shoots them up again.

The only exception to this pattern was when the price dropped hugely the first Christmas season, and sales soared.

[davidbrummy]

I am pretty happy with the new OS after a lot of pain installing it (bloody activation servers). It finally adds the missing bits of functionality you would expect. Of course Search and Cut n Paster are big winners but little things like being able to write SMS while the last is being sent is great. Good job!

I was sad about the activation issue. I would have expected for Apple to have this nailed. I appreciate it is only one day but you can temp deploy extra hardware pretty easily these days.

[stagi]

What is the stock like in stores? I haven't heard any new stories or read anything about Apple running out this weekend so assume they still have a good stock of phones?

[mjtomlin]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

I'm guessing the people who haven't upgraded just aren't aware of such things. Honestly people who've used other smart phones usually NEVER upgrade the software, they just use what it came with and only "upgrade" when they buy a new phone. This is standard user practice for most electronics. Most people don't realize that they're holding a computer in their hands and there's an OS upgrade for it.

I think when more people begin to realize that the iPhone is not a smart phone (and the iPod touch not a media player) and is an actual computer, running a real "desktop class" operating system, then maybe we'll see a larger percentage of them updating the devices more frequently.

[sushi]

congrats 1 million is awesome

We get 3GS here on friday, available on 5 carriers :D
I would like to say what I really feel, but better not as I might be banned.

Wow, 5 carrier choice. Wish we had choice here in Japan. I am dreading going to Softbank to get the iPhone -- a large reason why I have not converted already.

Speaking of presale orders:

Samsung Jet passes two million in presales (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/06/22/wildly-popular-samsung-jet-breaks-the-two-million-mark-for-preorders/)

800Mhz, 5MP camera, 3.1" 800x480 AMOLED touchscreen.

Samsung's on a roll these days, with so many large touchscreen WVGA AMOLED phones coming out. Really giving HTC a run for their money.

The 3.7" AMOLED Omnia II (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10264584-1.html)is going to sell like crazy on Verizon.
Competition is good. Glad to see Samsung developing new well featured phones.

Two million pre-orders is impressive.

[eldivino]

"Said Steve Jobs"

That's the greatest part of the article, right?

Yest it is. Seems like Stevo's BACK.....

[mjtomlin]

I was sad about the activation issue. I would have expected for Apple to have this nailed. I appreciate it is only one day but you can temp deploy extra hardware pretty easily these days.

Activation is something AT&T does with the phone, not Apple. Your phone only becomes activated once AT&T updates your account with your phone's IMEI number. Like others have said... you could've called AT&T support and had them manually make the change and would've happened instantly.

I was able to use my iPhone as soon as I got it... but I couldn't make calls for at least ten minutes, after AT&T got around to switching my account to the new SIM card.

[PlaceofDis]

i went to the apple store on Michigan Ave saturday night to get mine. there was a decent enough line in store for them, but they were moving through people at a pretty fast rate too. seemed like there was no worry about shortage of phones though, they are getting better at this at least.

[Clix Pix]

If so, that would be unusual.

Historically, iPhone sales have dropped after each new model launch, getting lower and lower until the next model shoots them up again.

The only exception to this pattern was when the price dropped hugely the first Christmas season, and sales soared.

You're right; I should have simply said that the sales will continue on at a steady pace for a while, then taper off....

[BongoBanger]

I'm guessing the people who haven't upgraded just aren't aware of such things. Honestly people who've used other smart phones usually NEVER upgrade the software, they just use what it came with and only "upgrade" when they buy a new phone.

Not true with the higher end Nokias which offer OTA firmware upgrades. Others, definitely yes.

[chr1s60]

Speaking of presale orders:

Samsung Jet passes two million in presales (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/06/22/wildly-popular-samsung-jet-breaks-the-two-million-mark-for-preorders/)

800Mhz, 5MP camera, 3.1" 800x480 AMOLED touchscreen.

Samsung's on a roll these days, with so many large touchscreen WVGA AMOLED phones coming out. Really giving HTC a run for their money.

The 3.7" AMOLED Omnia II (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10264584-1.html)is going to sell like crazy on Verizon.

That is a nice sales number. However, if comparing to iPhone 3GS sales one must take into account the fact that the Samsung is launching in 50 countries compared to the 8 for iPhone.

[Goona]

I have never heard of this Samsung Jet.

[BongoBanger]

I have never heard of this Samsung Jet.

It's a nice feature phone. Went on sale in the UK last week.

[Surely]

Speaking of presale orders:

Samsung Jet passes two million in presales (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/06/22/wildly-popular-samsung-jet-breaks-the-two-million-mark-for-preorders/)

800Mhz, 5MP camera, 3.1" 800x480 AMOLED touchscreen.

Samsung's on a roll these days, with so many large touchscreen WVGA AMOLED phones coming out. Really giving HTC a run for their money.

The 3.7" AMOLED Omnia II (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10264584-1.html)is going to sell like crazy on Verizon.

Hey look, are those the legendary front-facing cameras?

Those phones look sexy, but I think that's because they've stolen a good amount of their design from the iPhone (e.g. the chrome bezel). Then again, I guess there's not much you can do to the front of a phone that is 85% screen, right?

Ignoring the design, the real attraction for me to the iPhone is the OS. If these phones can work as well and as easily as the iPhone, I would say these could be some decent competition for Apple.

I hope these phones can make a dent in the market (clearly they have, with 2M presales)- it only helps to push out better products from everyone.

The lack of an iPhone-quality App Store on those phones..... that's a dealbreaker.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee311/ablogaboutthings/ThatsADealBreakerLadies.jpg

[kdarling]

That is a nice sales number. However, if comparing to iPhone 3GS sales one must take into account the fact that the Samsung is launching in 50 countries compared to the 8 for iPhone.

True, and (this is not aimed at you) those comparing Pre sales should remember to count countries as well.

However, out of 50 countries, I would think that the overwhelming majority of sales are to the usual top culprits: USA, UK, Germany, France, Japan, Spain, Canada.

I have never heard of this Samsung Jet.

Seems to be one of the many Omnia derivatives coming out now. All have AMOLED, fast cpus, but vary in OS (proprietary, Symbian or WM) and keyboard options.

[LagunaSol]

I have never heard of this Samsung Jet.

It's another isolated island of a phone with a boatload of hardware specs and a horrific, dead-end OS ("TouchWiz" *snicker*) that no one will be talking about a year from now.

Why do people still buy these throwbacks to the dark days of cell phone confusion? Get an iPhone, get a Pre, get an Android phone - for crying out loud don't get some one-off with no ecosystem support.

Just ask me how my coworker feels about his LG Voyager compared to my iPhone. :D

[kdarling]

Why do people still buy these throwbacks to the dark days of cell phone confusion? Get an iPhone, get a Pre, get an Android phone - for crying out loud don't get some one-off with no ecosystem support.

Unlike most of us here, a lot of people don't care about adding apps. They just want everything included, and to be easy to use.

That, after all, was the original idea of the iPhone when it came out. Closed ecosystem and all.

[LagunaSol]

They just want everything included, and to be easy to use.

Oops, there goes your argument for the Jet and its ilk.

[BongoBanger]

Oops, there goes your argument for the Jet and its ilk.


Oh dear. What specifically about it did you find in the unit that you tried out to be difficult to use?

[Goona]

It's a nice feature phone. Went on sale in the UK last week.

It's not a smartphone?

[Goona]

True, and (this is not aimed at you) those comparing Pre sales should remember to count countries as well.


But even in the States, the 3gs outsold the Pre significantly.

[BongoBanger]

It's not a smartphone?

Nope. No WinMo thank God!

It's the replacement for the Tocco which sold shedloads.

[Goona]

Nope. No WinMo thank God!

It's the replacement for the Tocco which sold shedloads.

I like some of the features on it though, would like the iphone to get some.

[str1f3]

If so, that would be unusual.

Historically, iPhone sales have dropped after each new model launch, getting lower and lower until the next model shoots them up again.

The only exception to this pattern was when the price dropped hugely the first Christmas season, and sales soared.

That's true but no one knows the effect of a $99 iPhone.

[Lara F]

But even in the States, the 3gs outsold the Pre significantly.

Well duh - how many more units were available for the iPhone? With an established ecosystem and 2 year head start? Is it any surprise?

Palm's sold out what they had and even with the missing features/apps and iffyness of the hardware (compared to the software) the phone seems pretty solid for a first gen. I'd say they did their job.

And kudos to Apple for selling more than I'd have expected - there's going to be a lot of new converts out there. Already a residency classmate's ordered one and my attending looks to be jumping ship from the Storm (told her about the Tour, but I think the experience was bad enough that she wants out completely).

[zacman]

How many of those 1 million were in the US?

Good question. In Germany T-Mobile released a PR that they sold around 18000 on Friday (2G was 10k, 3G was 15k).

I guess it's probably 80% US.

[Goona]

Well duh - how many more units were available for the iPhone? With an established ecosystem and 2 year head start? Is it any surprise?

Palm's sold out what they had and even with the missing features and iffyness of the hardware (compared to the software) the phone seems pretty solid for a first gen. I'd say they did their job.

And kudos to Apple for selling more than I'd have expected - there's going to be a lot of new converts out there. Already a residency classmate's ordered one and my attending looks to be jumping ship from the Storm (told her about the Tour, but I think the experience was bad enough that she wants out completely).

Who told you they are sold out, also how many units have they moved, they still haven't told us?

[LagunaSol]

my attending looks to be jumping ship from the Storm

How does one "jump" from a ship that sank long ago? ;)

[Sehnsucht]

How does one "jump" from a ship that sank long ago? ;)

Oh, snap! :D

[BRLawyer]

Awesome news, I am very happy with my 3GS :)

What else can be said? Apple's performance with the iPhone is second to NONE, and simply consolidates the successes of the world's BEST, BIGGEST and RICHEST consumer IT company with the world's BEST, FASTEST and MOST ADVANCED smartphone.

Now we can all bury together the crappy crap that has originated from inferior companies over the years...BB, Pre, WiMo, they are all DEAD. As for our fella Rubinstein, he should pray with is preferred rabbi and ask for his job back at Apple; Palm is gonna be bankrupt in no time.

Apple, once more, is SUPREME. Thank you, SJ and Co.!

[BRLawyer]

My wife and I are very fortunate that our existing cell contract expires this week. AND that Apple brought out a great product. AND we go pick ours up Wednesday (SS hits the bank that morning).

I'm a retired life long IBM'er. The day I retired I bought my first Mac, an LC. 17 years and 7 Macs later I get my first portable handheld computer, the iPhone 3GS...

I went to the local Apple Store late Friday afternoon (my wife works in the same mall) and was amazed how fast the thing is. No wonder AT&T hasn't enabled tethering and MMS yet... if they did their networks would crash from people making and sending videos...

Anyway as a first post here: I've been lurking and reading on this forum for some time. Nice meeting all you folks, a great bunch of people.

Michael

Congrats for such wise decisions, Michael...and welcome to the superior world of Apple.

[dicklacara]

Thanks to everyone for the assist, most especially reminding me of the COVERAGE map which I scaled down to the street levels - it appears we are in a GOOD coverage area by AT&Ts standards. Once we get the phones (32GB versions) and the bills paid if there is ANY money left I will get the Airport Extreme - it looks like it would give our iPhones cable internet speed no matter what the coverage is. We live in on an acre and must have 100 trees on the property, the whole area is like that.

I like that I can easily setup the Extreme and lock it down as far as who has access to it. Terrific !!

Thanks again for the welcomes and assist... Anyone ever need a recipe (I know that sounds weird here) I am Cordon Bleu trained and do food writing... I have hundreds of recipes online... Just ask

Hey Mike,

I am an ex IBMer too. 16 1/2 years in DPD. Last move was to Palo Alto in 1973...

I left early (1978) to open up some personal computer stores.

How does one get Cordon Bleu trained while working for IBM?

The Airport extreme will do the job for you. And you are correct, the iPhone GS is a very powerful computer in your pocket.

Enjoy & welcome to MR.

Dick

[megfilmworks]

The most successful smart phone model debut ever!
The snowball just keeps on rollin'.

Never a doubt!

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-iphone23-2009jun23,0,7861921.story

[DougB541]

What else can be said? Apple's performance with the iPhone is second to NONE, and simply consolidates the successes of the world's BEST, BIGGEST and RICHEST consumer IT company with the world's BEST, FASTEST and MOST ADVANCED smartphone.

Now we can all bury together the crappy crap that has originated from inferior companies over the years...BB, Pre, WiMo, they are all DEAD. As for our fella Rubinstein, he should pray with is preferred rabbi and ask for his job back at Apple; Palm is gonna be bankrupt in no time.

Apple, once more, is SUPREME. Thank you, SJ and Co.!

Is this a serious post?

Lord have mercy i'm glad most of you have a bit more sense then this guy.

[OllyW]

Slightly surprising and very impressive sales!

What else can be said? Apple's performance with the iPhone is second to NONE, and simply consolidates the successes of the world's BEST, BIGGEST and RICHEST consumer IT company with the world's BEST, FASTEST and MOST ADVANCED smartphone.

Now we can all bury together the crappy crap that has originated from inferior companies over the years...BB, Pre, WiMo, they are all DEAD. As for our fella Rubinstein, he should pray with is preferred rabbi and ask for his job back at Apple; Palm is gonna be bankrupt in no time.

Apple, once more, is SUPREME. Thank you, SJ and Co.!

Have you been eating the blue Smarties again? :D

[DougB541]

Slightly surprising and very impressive sales!



Have you been eating the blue Smarties again? :D

haha. Yes def. good sales.

Just a reminder (though I'm probably the only one that didn't remember haha)

These are worldwide sales....I was REALLY impressed when i thought it was domestics...regardless, still great numbers.

[BRLawyer]

Is this a serious post?

Lord have mercy i'm glad most of you have a bit more sense then this guy.

Of course I am serious, I am always serious as an Apple fanboy...care to counter any of the statements I've made?

[DougB541]

Of course I am serious, I am always serious as an Apple fanboy...care to counter any of the statements I've made?

It'd be pointless to even entertain an arugment with you with your fanboy self admittence.

But I wish apple the best of luck....but if they really want to "overthrow" RIM...they need to vastly improve their email support.


I own a blackberry now (personal use) but goddamn does their email setup rock.

One thing i'll miss when I switch.

[DELLsFan]

1 million iPhone 3GS' sold in one hand, Liver transplant in the other ... Apple shareholders are reassured.

In fact, they're all praying that when Steve's time to retire to the great Mobile Me cloud in the sky comes around, he does it on a Friday after 4:00PM.

:rolleyes:

[wfoster]

Congratulations Apple!

I'm just going from vague memory here and please correct me if I'm wrong but when the iPhone was first launch didn't it take like 3 weeks before Apple hit their first 1,000,000 sales with the iPhone?

If so, this means that Apple are going up massively to get 1,000,000 sales within a weekend.

[BRLawyer]

It'd be pointless to even entertain an arugment with you with your fanboy self admittence.

But I wish apple the best of luck....but if they really want to "overthrow" RIM...they need to vastly improve their email support.


I own a blackberry now (personal use) but goddamn does their email setup rock.

One thing i'll miss when I switch.

I am glad you stop your "argument" right there at "email setup", which is pretty much irrelevant for 99% of users of the iPhone...

As a matter of fact, all enterprise users I know have no complaints whatsoever with the iPhone email setup...actually they say it just works...not to mention that I don't have to care about a third-party infrastructure to route my messages to other recipients.

Anything else to add against the facts that I've stated?

[DougB541]

1 millions iPhone 3GS' sold in one hand, Liver transplant in the other ... Apple shareholders are reassured.

In fact, they're all praying that when Steve's time to retire to the great Mobile Me cloud in the sky comes around, he does it on a Friday after 4:00PM.

:rolleyes:

hahaha

Seriosuly though, my opinon on that is this. If Steve feels like Apple is in good hands....its probably time for him to step down from at least CEO. He should be concerned about his health more than making sure Apple's stock is high at this point. And I think right now, Apple is doing great.

[BRLawyer]

Congratulations Apple!

I'm just going from vague memory here and please correct me if I'm wrong but when the iPhone was first launch didn't it take like 3 weeks before Apple hit their first 1,000,000 sales with the iPhone?

If so, this means that Apple are going up massively to get 1,000,000 sales within a weekend.

This happened with the first iPhone; the 3G actually achieved 1 million sales in 3 days, BUT over 22 countries...now the 3GS, even with economic crisis, has done that in just 8 countries. Absolutely awesome!

[DougB541]

I am glad you stop your "argument" right there at "email setup", which is pretty much irrelevant for 99% of users of the iPhone...

As a matter of fact, all enterprise users I know have no complaints whatsoever with the iPhone email setup...actually they say it just works...not to mention that I don't have to care about a third-party infrastructure to route my messages to other recipients.

Anything else to add against the facts that I've stated?

haha.

no sir. You have it all figured out.

(i will advise you to take a trip to NYC if you want to see what people are using in business...I work for ESPN and not ONE person in the NY office uses an iPhone. We do offer it as a choice, but everyone goes with a blackberry.).

Anecdotal evidence is awesome eh?

[OllyW]

Congratulations Apple!

I'm just going from vague memory here and please correct me if I'm wrong but when the iPhone was first launch didn't it take like 3 weeks before Apple hit their first 1,000,000 sales with the iPhone?

If so, this means that Apple are going up massively to get 1,000,000 sales within a weekend.

The original iPhone took 74 days to reach 1 million sales, but it was only on sale in the USA. This 1 million sales figure is for the 8 countries which started selling the 3G S last Friday.

[wfoster]

I am glad you stop your "argument" right there at "email setup", which is pretty much irrelevant for 99% of users of the iPhone...

As a matter of fact, all enterprise users I know have no complaints whatsoever with the iPhone email setup...actually they say it just works...not to mention that I don't have to care about a third-party infrastructure to route my messages to other recipients.

Anything else to add against the facts that I've stated?

The e-mail functions rock in my opinion, and they're not complicated to setup up like other phones. But as most of the non-haters know that the iPhone isn't a phone. It's more than a phone, it is an iPhone.

~Wesley

[wfoster]

The original iPhone took 74 days to reach 1 million sales, but it was only on sale in the USA. This 1 million sales figure is for the 8 countries which started selling the 3G S last Friday.

Thank you for correcting me.

I'm sorry for the slow replies, just got a 10" notebook and just getting used to the small keyboard. It is so tiny!

[megfilmworks]

I own a blackberry now (personal use) but goddamn does their email setup rock.
Can't wait to dump my iPhone for that rockin' email...
Sorry couldn't resist.

RIM/RIP
Palm/BK
Apple/Blue skies

[DougB541]

The e-mail functions rock in my opinion, and they're not complicated to setup up like other phones. But as most of the non-haters know that the iPhone isn't a phone. It's more than a phone, it is an iPhone.

~Wesley

Honest question.

Have you ever owned a blackberry? It'll put most other phones email functions to shame. (including the Pre).

All i'm saying is...most corporations deal with blackberry's. And whoever I was quoting previously was claiming that Apple is going to kill RIM, Windows Mobile, Palm etc. (and I think he believes that Apple is going to bankrupt them all....and I think he may actually want that to happen for some reason).

[wfoster]

haha.

no sir. You have it all figured out.

(i will advise you to take a trip to NYC if you want to see what people are using in business...I work for ESPN and not ONE person in the NY office uses an iPhone. We do offer it as a choice, but everyone goes with a blackberry.).

Anecdotal evidence is awesome eh?

Just because your work colleagues use them, doesn't mean they are the best phone over all. BlackBerry is better at some things and the iPhone is better at other things.

[DougB541]

Can't wait to dump my iPhone for that rockin' email...
Sorry couldn't resist.

RIM/RIP
Palm/BK
Apple/Blue skies

HOly crap...its amazing its this tough to have a simply discussion here.


I never implied that Blackberry's are better than iPhones....I implied they do some things better...just like the iPhone does somethings better than blackberry's.....as teh Pre does some things better etc. etc. etc.

There are a lot of great phones on the market right now...but at the end of the day...It's all up to what YOU want in a phone. I don't think thats unreasonable to suggest. But if Apple wanted to go after the business market....no sane person would disagree they could improve their email on the iPhone.

[OllyW]

Honest question.

Have you ever owned a blackberry? It'll put most other phones email functions to shame. (including the Pre).

All i'm saying is...most corporations deal with blackberry's. And whoever I was quoting previously was claiming that Apple is going to kill RIM, Windows Mobile, Palm etc. (and I think he believes that Apple is going to bankrupt them all....and I think he may actually want that to happen for some reason).

That's one thing I can't understand with a lot of the people on here.

Why do they want companies that compete with Apple and employ thousands of people to go out of business? :confused:

[DougB541]

Just because your work colleagues use them, doesn't mean they are the best phone over all. BlackBerry is better at some things and the iPhone is better at other things.

1. Read above.

2. I NEVER SAID THEY WERE BETTER.

Macrumors always has this tendency to jump down anyone's throat who says anything that isn't on teh side of Apple.

[DougB541]

That's one thing I can't understand with a lot of the people on here.

Why do they want companies that compete with Apple and employ thousands of people to go out of business? :confused:

Beats me.

I honestly think some people just want Apple to be the only tech company out there.

[BRLawyer]

Beats me.

I honestly think some people just want Apple to be the only tech company out there.

Just tell us why email with the BB is better than with the iPhone 3GS, then.

Honestly, it doesn't help if all you say is "ESPN uses BB"...it's like saying that Windows is better because every company has it. Not to mention that Apple normally means LESS support needs, and perhaps less jobs in the IT department...needless to say, narrow-minded CIOs abhor that idea.

[kdarling]

Why do they want companies that compete with Apple and employ thousands of people to go out of business? :confused:

A lot are obviously kids. They still have a "us or them" mentality, and the need to belong to a popular group. Too young or immature to know what compromise is.

I'd love to see the real age of each poster here next to their name.

Ten years from now, most of them will be embarrassed to look back at what they wrote.

[ImNoSuperMan]

"Said Steve Jobs"

That's the greatest part of the article, right?

No truer words have ever been spoken.:):)

[DougB541]

Just tell us why email with the BB is better than with the iPhone 3GS, then.

Honestly, it doesn't help if all you say is "ESPN uses BB"...it's like saying that Windows is better because every company has it. Not to mention that Apple normally means LESS support needs, and perhaps less jobs in the IT department...needless to say, narrow-minded CIOs abhor that idea.

:rolleyes:

I thought the use of me saying "anecdotal evidence is fun" was obvious enough for you to realize that I was insulting your use of anecdotal evidence as to why iPhone email was better than blackberry's.

Clearly I gave you too much credit. Anyway, you're a big boy, research it yourself. I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

[wfoster]

A lot are obviously kids. They still have a "us or them" mentality, and the need to belong to a popular group. Too young or immature to know what compromise is.

I'd love to see the real age of each poster here next to their name.

I'm fourteen :) I'm still a little naive but I'm getting there.

[Goona]

Roger Mcnamee is pretty old. Seems talking ***** is not just for kids.

[seedster2]

Don't introduce reality in some of these threads:rolleyes:

I like my iPhone 3G a lot, but some of the fanboy statements posted are just ridiculous. Between BRLawyers quixotic statistics of email desirability or others' disregard for people having needs besides a phone syncing with their Mac - it's hard to not laugh.

I am happy Apple sold a lot of phones as it will hopefully result in a better offering the next time around and more feedback to improve their OS. I was offered the free upgrade, but i will wait to see what happens when the exclusivity expires with ATT and to see what BB has to offer.

Anyone who thinks BB is DEAD is either sadly delusional or hasn't seen any of their recent results quarterly results.

[BRLawyer]

A lot are obviously kids. They still have a "us or them" mentality, and the need to belong to a popular group. Too young or immature to know what compromise is.

I'd love to see the real age of each poster here next to their name.

Ten years from now, most of them will be embarrassed to look back at what they wrote.

And I hope you don't regret looking back at the silly seriousness of your message and realizing that, after all, we were just enjoying a good fanboyish time on a Mac-centered forum.

In a nutshell, take it easy, Sir: for years I've been saying that Apple's competitors are dead...an offspring of my support to the most innovative company in the world perhaps? I am not afraid of saying so and enjoying some schadenfreude, considering that I've continued to be an Apple user even during its darkest moments in the late 90s...remember how many said that Apple would be dead back then? Should I check their ages as well?:rolleyes:

[SleepyHead157]

This is great news for apple, especially with Steve Jobs throwing in a quote as well. Apple avoided a huge black eye by not having the problems they had last year. They did a great job by offering 30 bucks to those that did face problems, so this year's launch was much smoother. 1 million phones in a weekend is amazing.

[rgarjr]

It is just mind blowing that Apple has only been in the cell phone biz only 3 years and has blown every cellphone out of the water from other companies that have been around for years in this field.

[HyperZboy]

I wonder how many phones were sold to new customers who never had an ihine before.

What's an "ihine" ? Is that similar to an iASS?

And if so, how can I get me a piece of that action?


(sorry bad joke, fun with typos, hehe :D )

[dicklacara]

haha.

no sir. You have it all figured out.

(i will advise you to take a trip to NYC if you want to see what people are using in business...I work for ESPN and not ONE person in the NY office uses an iPhone. We do offer it as a choice, but everyone goes with a blackberry.).

Anecdotal evidence is awesome eh?

Here's some more:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/22/12_of_early_iphone_3g_buyers_report_ditching_their_blackberry.html

Dick Applebaum (age 69)

[BRLawyer]

Thanks, jus' forgot to mention that piece of "anecdotal" evidence...and as another poster said above, it's amazing how Apple has been able to completely change the game in the cellphone industry...otherwise we'd all still be drooling over our now-obsolete Motorolas...

[kdarling]

Here's some more:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/22/12_of_early_iphone_3g_buyers_report_ditching_their_blackberry.html


Not likely that those are a lot of business users ditching their Blackberries. If a company requires one to access their intranet, there's not much choice.

However, since RIM's sales are now almost half to non-enterprise buyers, I can certainly see a lot of consumers switching.

[DougB541]

Thanks, jus' forgot to mention that piece of "anecdotal" evidence...and as another poster said above, it's amazing how Apple has been able to completely change the game in the cellphone industry...otherwise we'd all still be drooling over our now-obsolete Motorolas...

I hope no one owned a motorola prior to the iPhone launche.

Apple indeed changed how cell phones are done now. Finger friendly touch screens are clearly the future. Anyone denying that is smiply wrong.

Integrated app stores will be the future....however Apple had a bit of a bully move over AT&T that I'm not sure another phone company would've originally gotten away with haha. Carriers in the past only wanted their applications stores to live on the phones....AT&T, who clearly rolled the hell over for the iPhone let Apple have its own app store.

There was heavy stagnation in the mobile industry before Apple came in...but I think Steve Jobs saw this and realized this was a great market to jump into....which in turn, lit a fire under many other manufactures asses.

But seriously, any of these phones below should be perfect for many people's needs:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/06/nokia-n97-review-chris-17-sm.jpg

[Alexwithad]

I'm one of a million :)

[vansouza]

My wife and I are very fortunate that our existing cell contract expires this week. AND that Apple brought out a great product. AND we go pick ours up Wednesday (SS hits the bank that morning).

I'm a retired life long IBM'er. The day I retired I bought my first Mac, an LC. 17 years and 7 Macs later I get my first portable handheld computer, the iPhone 3GS...

I went to the local Apple Store late Friday afternoon (my wife works in the same mall) and was amazed how fast the thing is. No wonder AT&T hasn't enabled tethering and MMS yet... if they did their networks would crash from people making and sending videos...

Anyway as a first post here: I've been lurking and reading on this forum for some time. Nice meeting all you folks, a great bunch of people.

Michael
Welcome to the forum... I hope your iPhone brings you nothing but joy, mine sure does.

[zelmo]

The Samsung Jet looks like a decent phone.

It's great that they've pre-sold 2 million phones, which is pretty impressive and double what the 3GS sold in the first weekend. But the 3GS is only currently available in 8 countries and the Jet is available in 50. When they sell 6 million Jets in the first weekend, that will be most impressive indeed.

[DougB541]

The Samsung Jet looks like a decent phone.

It's great that they've pre-sold 2 million phones, which is pretty impressive and double what the 3GS sold in the first weekend. But the 3GS is only currently available in 8 countries and the Jet is available in 50. When they sell 6 million Jets in the first weekend, that will be most impressive indeed.

I think Samsung will do Android a lot more justice than HTC.

[supmango]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.

It probably means that the majority of iPhone users don't sync their iPhone to iTunes everyday. Plus, has the software been out a week yet? iTunes checks automatically once every 7 days, so those who automatically checked the night before or even the morning of would not check again till this wednesday. Plus, I am sure the majority of people simply do not keep up with tech news like those of us here on the forum. Alot of people adopt it because they want a smart phone that is easy to use. They don't want to think about updates and things of that nature. I am sure numbers next weekend will show a lot higher adoption of 3.0.

[myca]

I hope no one owned a motorola prior to the iPhone launche.

Apple indeed changed how cell phones are done now. Finger friendly touch screens are clearly the future. Anyone denying that is smiply wrong.

Integrated app stores will be the future....however Apple had a bit of a bully move over AT&T that I'm not sure another phone company would've originally gotten away with haha. Carriers in the past only wanted their applications stores to live on the phones....AT&T, who clearly rolled the hell over for the iPhone let Apple have its own app store.

There was heavy stagnation in the mobile industry before Apple came in...but I think Steve Jobs saw this and realized this was a great market to jump into....which in turn, lit a fire under many other manufactures asses.

But seriously, any of these phones below should be perfect for many people's needs:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/06/nokia-n97-review-chris-17-sm.jpg

I've probably played around with/worked on every one of these phones (and more) and I'm gonna pick up one of the new 3GS iPhones on wednesday, now that my current contract is drawing to a close.

Seems that my contract timed out just about perfectly.

iPhones and hackintoshes FTW (oh and my PowerMac and MacBook)
:D

[FearNo1]

What happened to the recession? :eek: :p

[mags631]

I'm fourteen :) I'm still a little naive but I'm getting there.

With that statement, I'm guessing you are more mature than most who are double your age.

[JGowan]

I understand that not everyone would upgrade to the new software as soon as it comes out, but 6 million out of 40 million phones sounds extremely low to me. I would have expected the majority of iphone users to be early adopters and technologically progressive enough to have upgraded by now, but maybe it is still a little too soon.

Guess that just goes to show you though that on a macro scale, the majority of iphone users really weren't missing copy/paste functionality all that much.There aren't 40 million iphone users. Many are iPod Touch users. There's lots of reasons why a person might've not gotten around to download the update. Perhaps many iPod touch owners are children and they don't even know about the update (nor do their parents). We could speculate all day of the whys and why nots.

Personally, I would love to download the update for my two iPhones, but I'm on satellite internet and the update needs to be done during off-peak time or I'll go over my fair-use data amount. Off-peak starts at 2am and I haven't felt like getting up at that time and start the download. I'm a light sleeper and getting back to sleep is hard for me. So, I'm waiting until Friday night so I can sleep in on Saturday.

I would imagine that many people simply don't know about the update. Or if, they do, just haven't gotten around to updating.

[Banyan Bruce]

Impressive stuff. Well Done Apple....My cynicism has proved unfounded.

how did O2 do in the UK?

:cool:

[DiamondMac]

I really under-estimated how many would order online

More power to everyone who did

[Goona]

I hope no one owned a motorola prior to the iPhone launche.

Apple indeed changed how cell phones are done now. Finger friendly touch screens are clearly the future. Anyone denying that is smiply wrong.

Integrated app stores will be the future....however Apple had a bit of a bully move over AT&T that I'm not sure another phone company would've originally gotten away with haha. Carriers in the past only wanted their applications stores to live on the phones....AT&T, who clearly rolled the hell over for the iPhone let Apple have its own app store.

There was heavy stagnation in the mobile industry before Apple came in...but I think Steve Jobs saw this and realized this was a great market to jump into....which in turn, lit a fire under many other manufactures asses.

But seriously, any of these phones below should be perfect for many people's needs:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/06/nokia-n97-review-chris-17-sm.jpg

Where is the Blackberry Storm?

[johnntd]

I am curious to know how blackberry has a better email setup? I've heard people say that alot but never really know what do they mean by having a better email system? Would you care to elaborate that?

regards,

It'd be pointless to even entertain an arugment with you with your fanboy self admittence.

But I wish apple the best of luck....but if they really want to "overthrow" RIM...they need to vastly improve their email support.


I own a blackberry now (personal use) but goddamn does their email setup rock.

One thing i'll miss when I switch.

[YoGramMamma]

I know i was one of tHat number.

And on a completely unrelated note, did anyone realize that apple disables the function to record video while also in a phonecall. Maybe it's been mentioned before but I haven't seen it. Maybe that goes to illustrate just how much power the 30fps video recording uses.

[alembic]

Throw a chair for me today, Mr. Ballmer.Does anyone have a link to his response to the iPhone's success during the last two years? I know he scoffed at it in an interview just after it was announced but I've seen nothing since.

[Drag'nGT]

This was a much smoother way to launch the iPhone than the chaotic lines the past two years.

[sushi]

(i will advise you to take a trip to NYC if you want to see what people are using in business...I work for ESPN and not ONE person in the NY office uses an iPhone. We do offer it as a choice, but everyone goes with a blackberry.).

Anecdotal evidence is awesome eh?
Not really.

All it provides is an observation and nothing more.

In fact, all the people could switch to the iPhone 3Gs when it is time to renew their contracts.

It is just mind blowing that Apple has only been in the cell phone biz only 3 years and has blown every cellphone out of the water from other companies that have been around for years in this field.
I think this is what is amazing. Apple has only been in the market a short time but has had a dramatic effect on the market as well as selling many of their own product. :)

Here's some more:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/22/12_of_early_iphone_3g_buyers_report_ditching_their_blackberry.html

Dick Applebaum (age 69)
Cool. Thanks for the article. :)

What happened to the recession? :eek: :p
The world economic situation is amazing. On one hand we have companies and individuals that are hurting. On the other, we have consumer spending on optional (as in not needed) products and services that seems to be strong and in some cases increasing. Interesting times that we live in.

Where is the Blackberry Storm?
:D

[RAS admin]

You can count me as one of those million. I ordered from the online Apple Store on Saturday the 20th.

I am normally an early adopter of Apple products but this will be my first iPhone. Can't wait....

[rgarjr]

What happened to the recession? :eek: :p

Yeah good question I though we were in a recession here guys, whats up with that?

[kristokn]

There aren't 40 million iphone users. Many are iPod Touch users. There's lots of reasons why a person might've not gotten around to download the update. Perhaps many iPod touch owners are children and they don't even know about the update (nor do their parents). We could speculate all day of the whys and why nots.

Personally, I would love to download the update for my two iPhones, but I'm on satellite internet and the update needs to be done during off-peak time or I'll go over my fair-use data amount. Off-peak starts at 2am and I haven't felt like getting up at that time and start the download. I'm a light sleeper and getting back to sleep is hard for me. So, I'm waiting until Friday night so I can sleep in on Saturday.

I would imagine that many people simply don't know about the update. Or if, they do, just haven't gotten around to updating.

I have a lot of co-workers that use iPhones, but are not Apple/Mac fan people at all. A lot of them rarely, if ever, sync with iTunes and are more software updates behind than just 3.0. I'm guessing there are a lot of other people in this category. I don't think I ever updated my firmware on my last couple Blackberries, I only used it for email and phone calls and it worked fine doing those two things.

-K

[Lara F]

But seriously, any of these phones below should be perfect for many people's needs:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/06/nokia-n97-review-chris-17-sm.jpg

We're going to have some great options for everyone by the end of the year. I just went to T-Mobile this afternoon and got to play with the upcoming HTC Android phone (MyTouch)...pretty sweet even if I wouldn't switch. The G1 was "eh" but this hit the spot. I really hope the Storm 2 is *much* improved or a good WebOS phone comes to Verizon, because it's seriously getting ridiculous how crap their selection is.

Also finally checked out the 3GS next door at AT&T, relieved that it didn't tempt me enough to upgrade but I'm really looking forward to next year. The video function was sweet and I'd love the compass. Great job and I can imagine how awesome it'll be for 2Gers and newcomers. :)

[kdarling]

Apple indeed changed how cell phones are done now. Finger friendly touch screens are clearly the future. Anyone denying that is smiply wrong.

History constantly repeats :)

Every five years or so, for at least the last three decades, something comes up in personal computing that everyone is convinced is The Next Big Thing.

For example, from soft/hardware I've seen in closed demos, I would not be surprised if camera-based gestures that you can do anywhere around a device, were the Next Big Thing after touch-based UIs. One day our kids might laugh at the silly idea of actually having to touch fingers to a surface.

There was heavy stagnation in the mobile industry before Apple came in...but I think Steve Jobs saw this and realized this was a great market to jump into....which in turn, lit a fire under many other manufactures asses.

The industry was indeed slow moving, but it was already moving in the direction that Jobs took. In fact, 2006 was a big year for demos of finger-friendly handhelds, some of which no doubt had an influence on Apple, especially the Synaptics Onyx (http://www.cellphonebeat.com/entry/onyx-concept-phone-in-live-action/) and the OpenMoko (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what-229243.php), which had multi-touch and the infamous pinch (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/fics-linuxbased-smartphone-213016.php)months before the iPhone was revealed.

So yes, Jobs was smart to jump in when he did... before the public became too aware of what others had been doing.

[ichiro]

I am curious to know how blackberry has a better email setup? I've heard people say that alot but never really know what do they mean by having a better email system? Would you care to elaborate that?
"...the Blackberry got a great reputation for e-mail, not because it is easier to do or better suited for it, but because they were the first to offer a push service for email. That was/is critical in the corporate world; getting your email ASAP. But that service is offered on the iPhone as well, in fact from two different services; personal (MobileMe) and corporate (Exchange). Next time someone says, "Yeah but Blackberries are better for email!" Ask them why -- no one knows the answer.

"The great thing iPhone has going for it, is the Exchange support, so IT shops that haven't gone the Crackberry route can easily integrate the iPhone into their collective."

and... "these companies dump tons of money into Microsoft's coffers for server/client licenses and it wouldn't make much sense to support systems that aren't compatible. (Though Snow Leopard will remove those compatibility issues with built-in Exchange support.)"
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/infoworld_reviews_apples_new_iphone_3g_s_a_formidable_mobile_computing_plat/

[myca]

Well mine is on it's way next Tuesday, the same day my old contract can be cancelled, and I can get a PAC code.

What was funny is that I rang up Three today to see when I could cancel and their hard sell is ridiculous, up to the point that they started telling me a load of FUD about the iPhone, including;

It hasn't got BlueTooth
It is only available with 8GB
The cheapest contract on O2 is £45

A couple more I think too, of course trying to explain that Three's 3G coverage where I live is very poor didn't help, even though just the other week I was talking to one of their senior staff who said that my area is a bit of a black-spot for them.

I love salesmen who tell lies :rolleyes:

[Goona]

:D

I remember when people were saying the Blackberry Storm was the "iphone killer". How time flies. The new kid in town is the Palm Pre. :D

[TRAG]

Yeah good question I though we were in a recession here guys, whats up with that?

I guess people don't stop for recessions when Apple is involved.

[DiamondMac]

I remember when people were saying the Blackberry Storm was the "iphone killer". How time flies. The new kid in town is the Palm Pre. :D

Mother uses it and it is a very solid phone (I know, the reviews blew) but I am not sure it is anywhere near the iPhone on the whole. I mean, not even slightly close.

[megfilmworks]

Duplicate

[megfilmworks]

And I hope you don't regret looking back at the silly seriousness of your message and realizing that, after all, we were just enjoying a good fanboyish time on a Mac-centered forum.

In a nutshell, take it easy, Sir: for years I've been saying that Apple's competitors are dead...an offspring of my support to the most innovative company in the world perhaps? I am not afraid of saying so and enjoying some schadenfreude, considering that I've continued to be an Apple user even during its darkest moments in the late 90s...remember how many said that Apple would be dead back then? Should I check their ages as well?:rolleyes:
Dead on...
It's fun poking fun at the RIM guys.
Also there is a difference between the verb "hope" and "predict".
I don't hope for RIM to vanish.
Then I couldn't poke fun at their users.

Some people need to lighten up, and get some :apple:
:D

[inkswamp]

I remember when people were saying the Blackberry Storm was the "iphone killer". How time flies. The new kid in town is the Palm Pre. :D

I'm amazed that Apple is basically getting away with the same strategy they used with the iPod. They innovate on a few key features and then put the rest of the market into the position of looking like they're producing me-too products. Not once did anyone in the music player market try to out-do Apple but rather just played an eternal game of catch-up. I suspect most consumers are put off by the wanna-be products and gravitate toward what they view as the original (whether it's deserved or not.) Apple used that to their advantage with the iPod and iTunes and now they're doing the same thing with the iPhone. And it looks like none of their new competitors have stopped to look at the iPod's history and are boneheadedly falling into the same trap.

I am curious to know how blackberry has a better email setup? I've heard people say that alot but never really know what do they mean by having a better email system? Would you care to elaborate that?

I'd love to hear this too. I hear endlessly how much more "advanced" the email functionality is on BB. I can't think of any serious shortcomings about the iPhone's email.

[MikeinNJ]

Went to the Apple Store in the mall my wife works in this morning, got there at 08:30 - had a 10:00 am Shopping Appointment, told them I was there to get 3GS Phones. "no 3GS in stock". I told them I would wait outside. There was a lovely padded couch just outside the store. Hung out there, made a "line buddy" and we chatted guitars, fine wine and things iPhone, this would be his THIRD version... 10:15 a nice young lady comes out and takes our names, tells me I am FIRST in line, he SECOND... 10:35 they come out to see if we are ok... At 11:05 we see a FedEx guy goy by with a dolly of boxes. 15 minutes later at 11:20 I get introduced to my assistant who walks me thru the buy and activation process. Hubba Hubba !!

I got my wife a white 32GB and me a black 32GB... Also got a Airport EXTREME, a new mouse, some anti scratch screen covers and a car charger... I was in there about 40 minutes to do two phones an the other purchases. I have a huge flat of sticky buns I baked last week in the freezer and I'm taking them there tomorrow to say THANKS !!

Man setting up the Airport Extreme was a breeze. We would be toast here without the Extreme... I tired using my phone all over the house without it, Not Gonna Make It... Activaed the Extreme and I can be on the web on my iMac, my wife and I can both be downloading APPS on our phones and no hassles, blazing fast... Tomorrow when it is not raining I'll test online access out near one of the chicken coops.... About 50 ft. from the Extreme.

WHAT an amazing experience. Have had a Verizon RAZR for years, what a leap in speed, technology and can I dare say COOLNESS....

WOW

My super bad sticky buns and a double espresso
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/mikennansourhouse/P5050973.jpg