AIM and Beejive Instant Messaging iPhone Apps Updated with Push Notifications

[MacRumors]

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Two major instant messaging clients (AIM and Beejive) for the iPhone and iPod Touch were updated tonight with support for Push notifications. Instant messaging was always cited as one of the major reasons the iPhone and iPod Touch needed some form of background processing. Prior to iPhone 3.0, if you were to switch out of these applications, there was no easy way for the applications to notify you of an incoming message.

AIM (http://appshopper.com/social-networking/aim) (Free) - AIM is the official AIM client from AOL. The new version allows you to stay logged in for up to 24 hours and receive notifications through Apple's Push Notification system.

BeejiveIM (http://appshopper.com/social-networking/beejiveim) ($9.99) - Despite it's higher price, it has been a very popular instant messaging client with support for multiple protocols (AIM, MSN, Yahoo, GoogleTalk, Facebook, ICQ, Jaber, MySpace). The latest update adds push notification support and other enhancements.

Push notifications require the 3.0 firmware that was released last week (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/17/apple-releases-iphone-os-3-0/). Apple announced today that it has been downloaded over 6 million times since it's release.

Article Link: AIM and Beejive Instant Messaging iPhone Apps Updated with Push Notifications (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/22/aim-and-beejive-instant-messaging-iphone-apps-updated-with-push-notifications/)

[ugotpwned5]

yay finally! i have been waiting for this day!

[mlkeller]

Interesting...iTunes shows free version of AIM as still the pre-Push version, but App Store on my iPhone downloaded the 3.01 update with Push. Guess they're still syncing things up?

[DMann]

Let the new apps roll!!!!

[Greg McBride]

Just updated. Anxious to try it out!

[jstigall]

IM+ does not have push, read the app description!

[jtalbert]

Just installed both, tried them out and both work very well.

The one thing I will recommend before you use them...

After installing..

Reboot... Reboot... Reboot..

Did I say reboot your phone? Rebooting will solve problems I had and others I have heard were having.

Well worth the wait!

Oh and btw, Yahoo will not connect. If you cannot connect with Yahoo, there appears to be a problem with Beejive connecting.. Gives a tried all ports error message..

[modernangel76]

The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.

[Vandam500]

BeejiveIM's push is amazing :eek: I have tried 3G,Edge and Wifi and during all 3 as soon as I hit enter on the keyboard (sending a message to myself via a different account) the message arrives on the iPhone. I am so in love with my iPhone now:D

[yg17]

I can't even log into anything on Beejive right now, I think their server is overloaded

[pianoplayer1]

IM+ does not have push, read the app description!

Yes, IM+ does not have push notifications - it's just 3.0 tested, and the push version is still in approval

[myrdog]

Beejive isn't showing as updated for me yet

[noTe on iPhone]

Which app allows you to stay logged in until you manually sign off?

On AIM, you have to login everyday since it only allows you to stay signed in for 24 hours.

[larrymarshall2]

Any way to get notifications not through SMS?

[Matthew Yohe]

The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.

Yeah, I'm curious if BeeJive does this, if not I will buy it. I'd rather not wait for AIM to get on this.

Which app allows you to stay logged in until you manually sign off?

On AIM, you have to login everyday since it only allows you to stay signed in for 24 hours.

Well, the idea is that you will get a message at least once a day, if not, you really don't need push anyway...

[macfan881]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

Beejive has been great lovin it

[jtalbert]

I can't even log into anything on Beejive right now, I think their server is overloaded

reboot your iPhone, it should work.

[jtalbert]

Any way to get notifications not through SMS?

Its not via SMS as far as I know. If you dont want to see the actual messages, go into Prefs, notifications beejive and turn off alerts. This will have it play the IM sound and also give you a number badge on our icon letting you know how many new IMS you received. You can even turn off the sound if you want.

[carve]

WOW really loving beejive. Now I just need tweetie and facebook to get push.

[noTe on iPhone]

Well, the idea is that you will get a message at least once a day, if not, you really don't need push anyway...

I thought the whole point of push was not having to run the programs all the time (and in the background)?

[Fiko]

I finally decided to buy Beejive today :) Today it was still in 2.1 or so version. I bought it like 2 hours later and it was already 3.0 and I was shocked :D Then App Store in my iPhone 3G was telling me that there is an update for my 3.0 to 2.1 lol :D

But now I'm all good and Beejive Push works perfect! ;)

[BruiserBear]

I just read the description for beejive, and it says you need push email to make the push features of that app work? What is the deal with that?

I'm just looking for an IM app that I can use instead of text messaging. That means I want the messages to notify me without being in the app.

[Valmor]

The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.

Does BeeJive do this too?

[dagamer34]

WOW really loving beejive. Now I just need tweetie and facebook to get push.

Tweetie won't get push just because the developer wants it. It's a Twitter thing (twitter runs their servers, Tweetie just grabs content). And because Twitter's servers would be the ones pushing an update to your phone, it'd have to know a) what phone to push it to (handled by the app) but more importantly b) what app to push it to as there could be several Twitter apps installed on your phone.


Then you have to think of the logistics of who's going to pay for the added server load. You'd have to admit that the developers of Twitter apps are basically making their money off the services of Twitter (which is pretty much unheard of in most circles), and now they'd be asking more from them. Twitter is stuck between a rock and a hard place in figuring out how to support the MILLIONS of users needed to make sure the service ran smoothly.

Basically what it all boils down to is that right now, Twitter makes no money, and until it does, push notifications will suck due to unreliability and inadequate server power.

[bmb012]

Yeah, I'm curious if BeeJive does this, if not I will buy it. I'd rather not wait for AIM to get on this.



Well, the idea is that you will get a message at least once a day, if not, you really don't need push anyway...

Set Beejive to away, IMs will be sent to the client that's available. If you step away, sign out on the computer, or let it autoaway, you'll start getting IMs on the phone. If you've away from the computer and want IMs, just set Beejive to available.

That's what I've always done, at least.

[spacedout17]

The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.

I have the same problem. I had a friend send me a message which got pushed to my phone. When i jumped on my computer to chat, it still sent the messages to my phone. Was very annoying. Any one have any clues on how this can be changed?

[idonotliketostu]

why doesn't apple just make ichat for iphone, aim sux!

[Omni Geno]

I thought the whole point of push was not having to run the programs all the time (and in the background)?

I think the idea is not that you're running the IM application in the background. It's just that it doesn't log you off when you quit it. So you're still logged into your IM account(s) and a notification will get pushed to you when you get an IM. Then you can go open the app again.

[zacheryjensen]

Yeah, I'm curious if BeeJive does this, if not I will buy it. I'd rather not wait for AIM to get on this.



Well, the idea is that you will get a message at least once a day, if not, you really don't need push anyway...

The issue with AIM notifications showing up everywhere is a factor of AIM not the client. The client has absolutely no control or info about this behavior, it simply notifies you when you get a new message. AIM has some controls over this behavior but generallys peaking with AIM, unlike say... jabber, all clients always get all messages.

[drober30]

If you don't get prompted for an update, just delete your app and reinstall. The new installation will be 3.0

[noTe on iPhone]

I think the idea is not that you're running the IM application in the background. It's just that it doesn't log you off when you quit it. So you're still logged into your IM account(s) and a notification will get pushed to you when you get an IM. Then you can go open the app again.

I understand that, but for example... you quit the app and after 24 hours you have to re-start the app to sign in. I think that is stupid.

[Greg McBride]

Just updated. Anxious to try it out!

Beejive is sweet! Had to reboot the phone. But, after that, it works just as advertised. Love it!

[Matthew Yohe]

The issue with AIM notifications showing up everywhere is a factor of AIM not the client. The client has absolutely no control or info about this behavior, it simply notifies you when you get a new message. AIM has some controls over this behavior but generallys peaking with AIM, unlike say... jabber, all clients always get all messages.

This is actually not true. If I have multiple clients open (Work, Home) and I reply on my work machine, only the first message will go to my home machine. This is how the Push notification should work.

I understand that, but for example... you quit the app and after 24 hours you have to re-start the app to sign in. I think that is stupid.

True, it could be stupid, but my point is that if you need Push, but don't get at least one message in 24 hours, then you are probably not someone who really needs push. Yes I agree they could make the signin time a little longer, but as soon as you get a push message, when you slide/unlock, you are going into AIM, thus restarting the 24 hour period.

[alhasa]

Why is push still not available in uk?!!!? :mad:

EDIT: ok the beejive app with push is now available in uk app store but I aunt gonna pay 6 quid for the privillage!

[DELLsFan]

I used to instant message a lot - back from my AOL daze. Now, I really couldn't care less about it. I guess I've become more pragmatic in my old age. If you have something riveting to say to me, call me, or email it. And don't expect a quick answer unless I'm expecting it.

Oh and don't expect an answer at all if all you know how to do is forward jokes with 5 or 6 pages of forwarded message headers or 2 pages of the list of people you also sent your special joke to. :rolleyes:

[-Garry-]

Why is push still not available in uk?!!!? :mad:

Works just fine here in Merseyside!

[hotsoda]

I bought Beejive after reading the news on Boy Genius Report (and after I discovered AOL disabled copy and paste with the AIM app. Overall, I'm impressed with the push service, but I don't like the graphical glitches (especially when the landscape keyboard is used. Were these issues present in the earlier versions?

[navigates]

Beejive dosen't work here.

Error
Connection failed on all fallback ports
:mad:

[macfan881]

Now just bring Facebook a twitter App and ESPN and ill be happy

[slicecom]

Beejives push works absolutely flawlessly. I expected it to have a few hiccups or glitches at first, but its just perfect! Well worth the $16 I paid when it first came out!

[whynot83706]

So with the Push Notification for any IM do I need to have unlimited TXT messages plan? Does it count towards my txt messages?

[slicecom]

I bought Beejive after reading the news on Boy Genius Report (and after I discovered AOL disabled copy and paste with the AIM app. Overall, I'm impressed with the push service, but I don't like the graphical glitches (especially when the landscape keyboard is used. Were these issues present in the earlier versions?

No, they came about when 3.0 came out. I guess they still haven't made it 100% 3.0 compatible yet. They will, the beejive guys are great.

[morphineseason]

Anyone know if AIM in Beejive offers a huge advantage over the official AIM client? I pretty much only use AIM, with the occasional use of Live Messenger, but I'm kind of tempted to get Beejive. It's just hard to justify when the free AIM client also has push notifications now.

[angrytoothbrush]

Anyone know if AIM in Beejive offers a huge advantage over the official AIM client? I pretty much only use AIM, with the occasional use of Live Messenger, but I'm kind of tempted to get Beejive. It's just hard to justify when the free AIM client also has push notifications now.

who said the free one does push??

[Smith288]

I don't believe IM+ has push yet. Just fake push using email.

I have it and it has yet to add itself to the notification settings area or have AppStore inform me of an update.

[Smith288]

who said the free one does push??

Imno authority but I say it does since I just verified.

[morphineseason]

who said the free one does push??

Me. I just got an update notification a little bit ago for the free AIM app, I downloaded it, launched it, and was asked at launch if I wanted push enabled. I also tried IMing myself, and it worked as advertised.

[Smith288]

So with the Push Notification for any IM do I need to have unlimited TXT messages plan? Does it count towards my txt messages?

I hope this is sarcasm. If so LOL, if not; I think I give up.

[timotheezz]

just wanted to point out:

my battery got rocked

[angrytoothbrush]

Imno authority but I say it does since I just verified.

ur no authoritI lol well i suppose ur good enough to me but the appstore is saying ******* you to me cuz its still showing me the old version ill just see if what happens when i hit get if it rewrites the new one

[alhasa]

Works just fine here in Merseyside!

Which app are you using?

[timotheezz]

10:45pm - battery @ 44%; downloaded AIM & beejive
.
.
.
12:45am - battery @ 3%

hmm... i was testing both rather heavily. received some errors. i'm sure the servers are overloaded.

but damn, my battery life!! i'm sure the allure will wear off in a few days and i won't be all over it.. or will i? :confused:

[Axxl]

Beejive was working for me earlier, but then I had some connection issues (like earlier users, and it thought I was logged on somewhere) and now it no longer pushes. Restart hasn't helped...
Alex

[Nikos]

Ahh I just deleted AIM today because I couldn't see any of my conversations. Hopefully they fixed that, and push is definitely a welcomed addition!

[dre29]

I got the beejive update and I have not been able to log on to yahoo messenger since! It keeps saying "Error Connection failed on all fallback ports". I have no problem getting on through Windows Live though. I want to try to delete the app, then re-download and see if that fixes the problem but not sure it's a good idea because iTunes is still showing an older version of the app.

Anybody else having this problem with Yahoo (or any other messenger)? If so how did you resolve? Is there something I can do, or is it just something on the back end that I can't do anything about?

Also anybody know if the update is available should I be able to delete current version then re-download again with version with push?

[Smith288]

10:45pm - battery @ 44%; downloaded AIM & beejive
.
.
.
12:45am - battery @ 3%

hmm... i was testing both rather heavily. received some errors. i'm sure the servers are overloaded.

but damn, my battery life!! i'm sure the allure will wear off in a few days and i won't be all over it.. or will i? :confused:

idotht believe push is a huge strain on your battery any more than exchange push is. You can have 50 push apps but there is still only one push daemon running. I mean, it could be push but there is so many variables it's hard to say if that's it.

[Sehnsucht]

Loving it... :D

[angrytoothbrush]

AIM Free is beyond glitchy anyone else seeing this even rebooted

[garethjs]

Tweetie won't get push just because the developer wants it. It's a Twitter thing (twitter runs their servers, Tweetie just grabs content). And because Twitter's servers would be the ones pushing an update to your phone, it'd have to know a) what phone to push it to (handled by the app) but more importantly b) what app to push it to as there could be several Twitter apps installed on your phone.


Then you have to think of the logistics of who's going to pay for the added server load. You'd have to admit that the developers of Twitter apps are basically making their money off the services of Twitter (which is pretty much unheard of in most circles), and now they'd be asking more from them. Twitter is stuck between a rock and a hard place in figuring out how to support the MILLIONS of users needed to make sure the service ran smoothly.

Basically what it all boils down to is that right now, Twitter makes no money, and until it does, push notifications will suck due to unreliability and inadequate server power.

Hmm. Tweetie just has to run their own server. It's not that expensive to setup a virtual server and since it's not a free app I see no issues with this. Then what happens is that twitter connects to the tweetie virtual server where your login details are stored. The virtual server connects to the apple push notification server which maintains an IP connection to your device.

twitter message in -> tweetie server -> apple server -> iphone.

So it's not a twitter issue it's a tweetie issue.

[morphineseason]

Anyone know if AIM in Beejive offers a huge advantage over the official AIM client? I pretty much only use AIM, with the occasional use of Live Messenger, but I'm kind of tempted to get Beejive. It's just hard to justify when the free AIM client also has push notifications now.

Screw it, I went ahead and bought Beejive. I either pay $10 now or $16 later - I think I'll go with the first option. I love my IMing way too much to settle for less, plus it looks like Beejive has some good tools as far as file transfers and voice chat go.

[nagromme]

I'll buy something one of these days, but AIM Free does the job!

I didn't even know Push was added--it wasn't in the description of the update, and I was disappointed.

Then I remembered that the description text doesn't always change at the same time as the app version.

AIM Free is beyond glitchy anyone else seeing this even rebooted

Yes: the Buddy list and the Favorites list don't show matching status. Friends may show as online in one list, offline in the other! Relaunching the app doesn't seems to help. Signing out and back in might.

[Matthew Yohe]

Hmm. Tweetie just has to run their own server. It's not that expensive to setup a virtual server and since it's not a free app I see no issues with this. Then what happens is that twitter connects to the tweetie virtual server where your login details are stored. The virtual server connects to the apple push notification server which maintains an IP connection to your device.

twitter message in -> tweetie server -> apple server -> iphone.

So it's not a twitter issue it's a tweetie issue.

No, it's a Twitter issue. Imagine if Tweetie decided to setup a push server, thus becoming the only twitter client for the iPhone that supported push. Everyone would use it, which is great, only until the bandwidth bill arrives. There is so much data pumping through twitter that it would not be economically feasible for tweetie to set this up.

[jotwee]

Beejive dosen't work here.

Error
Connection failed on all fallback ports
:mad:

i assume you only get this for your yahoo account... it's a yahoo problem afaik

[smoothisfast]

Beejive dosen't work here.

Error
Connection failed on all fallback ports
:mad:

yahoo changed something on their system my Adium stopped working these last few days until they updated the software.

[jotwee]

I got the beejive update and I have not been able to log on to yahoo messenger since! It keeps saying "Error Connection failed on all fallback ports". I have no problem getting on through Windows Live though. I want to try to delete the app, then re-download and see if that fixes the problem but not sure it's a good idea because iTunes is still showing an older version of the app.

Anybody else having this problem with Yahoo (or any other messenger)? If so how did you resolve? Is there something I can do, or is it just something on the back end that I can't do anything about?

Also anybody know if the update is available should I be able to delete current version then re-download again with version with push?

yep, yahoo sometimes kinda sucks ;)

[navigates]

yahoo changed something on their system my Adium stopped working these last few days until they updated the software.

Yes it was yahoo. I tested push with Google and it works well. Good to know. Thanks!!

[davidbrummy]

yep, yahoo sometimes kinda sucks ;)

Yahoo has change its ports again. I think they do this to try and stop third party AIM clients. I just got a new version of Adium and it is connecting to Yahoo again. Meebo started working again today. I hate Yahoo for this. I do not want to use their client as I know people on AIM, MSN etc.

I expect a new version of Beejive is on its way.

[Omni Geno]

I understand that, but for example... you quit the app and after 24 hours you have to re-start the app to sign in. I think that is stupid.

Right. I agree, although if you are the kind of person who wants push notifications for his/her iPhone IM client, you probably use the app more than once a day to start conversations, and you're not just using the app to wait for IMs from others. In this case, you're going to open the app now and then, making the 24 hr countdown restart every time. At least I think that's how it works.

But hey, maybe there are lots of people who just leave the app on for days and open it less than once a day on average. If you're that kind of person, then the 24 hr limit is definitely stupid.

I, for one, would open it at least once in the morning and at least once at night. In the meantime I'm using whatever desktop client is available. But that's just me.

[LordJohnWhorfin]

Sorry to get all curmudgeony on you, but is it too much to expect editors to have heard of this (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-its-and-its.htm)?

[Axxl]

Noone else is having issues with Beejive? Ugh, guess it's just me then. Haven't gotten a successful push in the past hour or so. Tried reinstalling and restarting to no avail.
Alex

[saturniphone]

I understand that, but for example... you quit the app and after 24 hours you have to re-start the app to sign in. I think that is stupid.

And you've just discovered why push notifications are a poor substitute for background apps. I'm sorry, but this isn't just stupid -- it's a disaster.

If AIM let you stay on forever then they would have to keep IMs that were sent to you potentially forever until you eventually opened the app on the iPhone and downloaded those messages. You'll notice that even when you get a push notification you still have to download the IMs from the server when you log in. It's not like push email where the info is actually sent -- just the notification.

I'm just very underwhelmed by push notifications. Instead of coming up with some cheap alternative maybe force programmers to actually not suck and code very efficient background apps. Only a portion of the program has to run in the background. If a programmer does a bad job, no one will use the app. I honestly believe they are masking a problem with their operating system since every other smartphone on the planet can do this just fine and have very usable battery life, etc.

I'd rather have background apps than play Doom or whatever nonsense people feel like they NEED on their phones. I guess the iPhone is destined to be a gaming system and a lackluster mobile platform.

[xDYLANx]

A boy can dream right?

[acvball92]

I have the same problem. I had a friend send me a message which got pushed to my phone. When i jumped on my computer to chat, it still sent the messages to my phone. Was very annoying. Any one have any clues on how this can be changed?

you can set aim as away on your phone, and the notifications will stop going to your phone and only on your computer if your computer is available. it works on mine at least.:D

[dkh587]

I'm glad that push is available for the free AIM :D

I need to buy BeeJive again. It sucks that we can't transfer it from Blackberry to iPhone.:(

[Peepo]

Hmm. Tweetie just has to run their own server. It's not that expensive to setup a virtual server and since it's not a free app I see no issues with this. Then what happens is that twitter connects to the tweetie virtual server where your login details are stored. The virtual server connects to the apple push notification server which maintains an IP connection to your device.

twitter message in -> tweetie server -> apple server -> iphone.

So it's not a twitter issue it's a tweetie issue.

Ya exactly. How he think Beejive do it? They aren't running the MSN/ICQ etc. servers. They gave their own that keeps you logged in.

[morphineseason]

Does anyone know if there's a way you can get push notifications from Beejive while in Away mode? I'd rather not have people thinking I'm available all the time, but I'd still like to receive the push notifications when I'm set to away so that I can view them later.

[Axxl]

I believe it's still supposed to push even if you're away (unless you have another client that is not away). However, I'm having issues getting any push at all so I can't test it. Try it out, it should work.
Alex

[Bubba Satori]

Eggsellent news.

[NAG]

Does anyone know if there's a way you can get push notifications from Beejive while in Away mode? I'd rather not have people thinking I'm available all the time, but I'd still like to receive the push notifications when I'm set to away so that I can view them later.

Open up the preferences app (not the beejive app) and select the beejive icon near the bottom. Scroll down and there should be an option for how fast it switches to away mode (along with your away message). Choose the option immediately upon app exit. Then start and quit the app.

[unr1]

Well, the idea is that you will get a message at least once a day, if not, you really don't need push anyway...lol /sarcasm

[apunkrockmonk]

Yeah aim push isn't working at all for me.

Via edge or wifi.

I tried restarting the phone as well as reinstalling the app.

Push is set to on in the aim preferences.

Anyone else having this problem?

[Axxl]

I am. I'm guessing their servers are swamped with people testing out Beejive. Oh well, go to sleep and check tomorrow.

[Chris Grande]

What I want to know is why the AIM app doesn't use the names from my address book? I hate all the HappyCamper2313 I want Joe Smith.. etc.. The data is there why aren't they using it!?

[01Shambrook]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

No IM+ hasn't been updated.
At least not in the UK.

[steveleepete]

hey is anyone else having issues trying to purchase apps in the last day or so? im getting a weird notice saying that my credit card doesnt match my billing zip code. i tried 3 times and it doesnt work, then when i check my bank account i was charged 3 times for the damn app= $30! what the hell?

i can download free apps fine so i dont know what the deal is with my billing info

[Dammit Cubs]

I just spend the 10 bucks (ohhhhh headache) and bought this app. You definitely have to restart your iphone or else it keeps crashing. But after going through all that. I am just blown away by the app.

First it's stable. I love the interface and how it mimicks the messenging app. Push notification works. I have only tried it on Gmail chat but its so seemless. if i'm IMing someone on the computer and I log off. It sends it to my phone. I even set it up so that when i'm on my phone ONLY...it says MOBILE GCHAT.

I love the wallpapers you can set for the background and the fact that you can send pictures and voice over gchat. THATS AWESOME. Switching from one user to another is so seemless too.

Well worth the money. Lets just hope my battery lasts.

[spaceballl]

I just read the description for beejive, and it says you need push email to make the push features of that app work? What is the deal with that?
It just means you need to have push enabled, and that setting is tied into email on the iphone, more or less.

[ChrisBrightwell]

Hmm. Tweetie just has to run their own server.

$3 doesn't begin to cover the costs that would be associated with pushing twitter updates to your phone.

[slapppy]

We have unlimited family text plan. For 35 bucks all five family
members have unlimited text. Yeah one price for all. So we just have our AIM account send messages directly to our mobile. Connected 24/7, no need to ping the service to reset your connection. Works great.

[theoceanwar]

working great
glad im not getting those damn emails anymore and now just straight push..

[sgibson]

Ya exactly. How he think Beejive do it? They aren't running the MSN/ICQ etc. servers. They gave their own that keeps you logged in.

Because Twitter and IM are completely different services.

On IM you log in and, while you are logged in the MSN/ICQ/Whatever servers know about that logged in instance of the client and know where to deliver messages to.

Twitter does not send messages to the client, it stores the messages on a server and the client then requests a list of messages.

For a Twitter client to enable push they would need to permanently be downloading the twitter stream for every person who owned the program AND be parsing the entire Twitter stream for @ mentions. In essence, you would practically need the same server processing as Twitter itself has which you will not be able to do unless you have millions in VC funding.

Twinkle may be the exception since they do run their own servers and cross post to Twitter, but it will most likely only work between Twinkle users.

This is an issue that Twitter needs to address OR one of the clients needs to set up a monthly subscription plan that would enable push notifications for subscribers.

[Jawsome]

It really is too bad this took so long...and that we are still waiting on other pushes like gmail, facebook, twitter apps and all that jazz....

[stlwx21]

After 5 minutes or so, it Beejive says my aim service has been disconnected. Anyone have any idea what that is all about? I didn't think it was suppose to disconnect me

[badtz]

What I want to know is why the AIM app doesn't use the names from my address book? I hate all the HappyCamper2313 I want Joe Smith.. etc.. The data is there why aren't they using it!?

I agree, that has always bothered me about the official AIM client! Does anyone know if this is the same with Beejive and IM+?

[Phil A.]

Why is push still not available in uk?!!!? :mad:

EDIT: ok the beejive app with push is now available in uk app store but I aunt gonna pay 6 quid for the privillage!

This is the problem with the App Store "race to the bottom" and loads of apps selling for 59p: £5.99 is not a lot of money for an app such as Beejive - there has been a lot of work put into it and they'll have some pretty serious overheads too.


Beejive is great, but has a couple of bugs. The first one is pretty major IMO and that is that the app crashes if you try and associate a buddy with an address book contact. Worse than that - it seems to make the link before crashing and if you subsequently go into the buddy details, it crashes again: The only fix is a delete and re-install followed by avoiding any address book links.

The second one is possibly a "feature" of push notifications - I was testing it last night and occasionally the notifications were laggy by a couple of minutes. Because I was testing it I kept re-opening it. There was one occasion where I must have had it closed so a push notification was generated, but then opened up Beejive before the notification was received. I picked up the messages and carried on with my conversation. Shortly after I closed it down, I got a push notification for an old message I'd already replied to and the badge went to "1". This badge number then stayed at 1 until I received another notification (even going in to the app didn't clear it down)

Still mightily impressed with Beejive and Push Notifications, but feel there is still some work to do...

[dohspc]

beejive finally rocks. iPhone is quickly becoming my everything device finally!

[WeeBull]

I think people are missing something here.

Hmm. Tweetie just has to run their own server. It's not that expensive to setup a virtual server and since it's not a free app I see no issues with this. Then what happens is that twitter connects to the tweetie virtual server where your login details are stored. The virtual server connects to the apple push notification server which maintains an IP connection to your device.

So, don't people have a problem with a third party holding onto their log-in details for their IM/Twitter/Facebook/Whatever. Beejive must already be doing this. Seem to me this is asking for trouble.

Do you really trust some of these "companies" not to start sending advertising from your accounts to your friends as another "revenue stream"? I'm not targeting BeeJive necessarily, but there's a log of App developers and they won't all be trustworthy.

[cherbert]

Because Twitter and IM are completely different services.

On IM you log in and, while you are logged in the MSN/ICQ/Whatever servers know about that logged in instance of the client and know where to deliver messages to.

Twitter does not send messages to the client, it stores the messages on a server and the client then requests a list of messages.

For a Twitter client to enable push they would need to permanently be downloading the twitter stream for every person who owned the program AND be parsing the entire Twitter stream for @ mentions. In essence, you would practically need the same server processing as Twitter itself has which you will not be able to do unless you have millions in VC funding.

Twinkle may be the exception since they do run their own servers and cross post to Twitter, but it will most likely only work between Twinkle users.

This is an issue that Twitter needs to address OR one of the clients needs to set up a monthly subscription plan that would enable push notifications for subscribers.

Can you people who don't know what the hell you are going on about please stop spouting this rubbish on the forums as if you are talking fact.

IM+ has a Twitter client and will provide updates via push. It already does so via email at the moment!!

[thefunkymunky]

I keep getting this now when trying to log on with my two WLM accounts in BeeJiveIM. :(

[randyc]

finally!! :D
AIM is working great!

[PDE]

Can't get beejive to push : ( tried different accounts, rebooting phone, signing off/in, all to no avail. Gave up for now.

[jayo1971]

Beejive isn't showing as updated for me yet

The update isn't showing up yet in the uk????:confused:

[propropro]

It smells like train wreck.. If this is not working now, what will happen when there are thousands of apps, and millions of users expecting push notifications??

Add to this the problems some people (me included) with battery drain caused by having push (for MobileMe) and notifications on (and without apps using it!)

[bpla]

Hmm...
Here in Germany I got the Beejive Update (but it is showd as Version 2.2.0.24 and not 3.0, although its Beejive 3.0). Confusing version management to my mind. But it works nice and also pushing almost instantly.

As far as I know and see IM+ 3.0 does NOT support push notifications besides mail-pushing but its the upcoming version 3.1 that does. And that one is not available yet (here in Germany).

[efp1]

As far as I know and see IM+ 3.0 does NOT support push notifications besides mail-pushing but its the upcoming version 3.1 that does. And that one is not available yet (here in Germany).

Same here. I think the front page should remove IM+ as lots of people are buying it thinking it has the new push notification system. They're getting pretty annoyed.

[bpla]

Same here. I think the front page should remove IM+ as lots of people are buying it thinking it has the new push notification system. They're getting pretty annoyed.

Also the list on Appadvice is wrong then. IM+ 3.0 is out for days already (if not weeks) and its was right before OS 3.0 and does not include push besides mail.

Inside the description (in the Appstore) it says:
VERSION 3.1 WITH MESSAGE PUSH AND MORE IN APPLE REVIEW. In the meantime in the IM Push™ mode you may receive IMs as e-mails pushed to your iPhone mailbox.

Confusing IM guys :P

[johnny Ola]

After 5 minutes or so, it Beejive says my aim service has been disconnected. Anyone have any idea what that is all about? I didn't think it was suppose to disconnect me


The same happens to me using my MSN account on Beejive. I have the session timeout set to the maximum 24 hours, so I can't really explain it.

Perhaps their servers are currently being smashed?

[sphoenix]

Do you need to be subscribed to MobileMe in order for Push to work? I'm a little confused about this.

[jayenh]

beejive doesn't do group conversations, right?

[imm22]

Do you need to be subscribed to MobileMe in order for Push to work? I'm a little confused about this.

I have that question too

[propropro]

I have that question too

you don't need mobileMe for push notifications to work. But MobileMe uses a similar push technology than the used for apps in OS 3.0 ;)

[imm22]

you don't need mobileMe for push notifications to work. But MobileMe uses a similar push technology than the used for apps in OS 3.0 ;)

Thanks

But beejive push notification is still off for me

[jennyp]

why doesn't apple just make ichat for iphone, aim sux!


Yeah - with a front-facing video camera on the iPhone

Why does bandwidth cost anything to anyone?

[yoomy]

PUSH Notifications do not work if you have an unlocked iPhone. Jailbreak is fine but you need a normal iTunes activiation for PUSH Notifications to work.

[Coroe]

I want Skype running in the background... :(

[PDE]

PUSH Notifications do not work if you have an unlocked iPhone. Jailbreak is fine but you need a normal iTunes activiation for PUSH Notifications to work.

Is this something you know for sure? If so, that's very sad news indeed for many of us... :(

[Foras]

I cant get push on beejive and i have 2G on a unofficial carrier

[bier-meister]

You can read about the push 2G jailbreak problems here (http://brambourgonjon.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/push-2g/).

Dont know if this concerns 3G jailbroken phones, anyone with a 3G jailbroken phone getting push notifications?

[yoomy]

I have read about this quite a bit already and as far as I know it has nothing to do with 2G or 3G.

Jailbreak does not seem to affect it in any way but the Unlock does. Because Apple servers assign each iPhone a key upon Activation. Since an Unlock bypasses this Activation you never get a key assigned and therefore push notifications do not work.

[Sverkel]

I just love the BeejiveIM app and PUSH has just made it so much better :D

[damienvfx]

I have read about this quite a bit already and as far as I know it has nothing to do with 2G or 3G.

Jailbreak does not seem to affect it in any way but the Unlock does. Because Apple servers assign each iPhone a key upon Activation. Since an Unlock bypasses this Activation you never get a key assigned and therefore push notifications do not work.

I am in Spain and I just used ultrasn0w to unlock my iPhone 3G (thanks dev-team!). Push notifications are not working. I've tried AIM and Beejive.

EDIT:

In a related note, Push for "Find my iPhone" works flawlessly.

[ipoppy]

why doesn't apple just make ichat for iphone, aim sux!

That was expected to happened this time with new iPhone release. You probably have to wait for proper iChat AV with front camera another year. I am sure they are working on it since so many people want it. Its stupid to start this rumors now but I am sure that 2010 iphone will have:
- ichatAV video conferencing
- OLED screen to cut battery usage
- better battery
- better camera lens
- flash but maybe just update to OS 3.0 will do
- perhaps better screen resolution and dual core processor
- slightly new design

[twoodcc]

great. i have 2 of these on my iphone, but haven't really tried them out yet. i'll be sure to try them out later today

[Pika]

Which is better? IM+ or Beejive

[macintel4me]

Why does Macrumors always incorrectly write "iPod Touch"? The correct spelling is "iPod touch".

[yoomy]

Which is better? IM+ or Beejive

IM+ does not support PUSH notifications yet. So right now Beejive is better for me.

[ssdar]

beejive works like charm ! Now Skype with push please !

[TheCookie]

The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.

Just sign out of AIM on your phone when you sign onto your computer. How hard is that?

[SkippyThorson]

- flash but maybe just update to OS 3.0 will do

Will a secret door on the back of the 3GS open? An update to allow flash on the iPhone? What?

If a new iPhone has a new camera and flash, it would be 4.0, as it's a new phone. Otherwise, no update to the software can allow a flash for the camera as-is...

Clarify?

[jontucker]

Will a secret door on the back of the 3GS open? An update to allow flash on the iPhone? What?

If a new iPhone has a new camera and flash, it would be 4.0, as it's a new phone. Otherwise, no update to the software can allow a flash for the camera as-is...

Clarify?

I'm 50% sure he meant Adobe Flash!

[Icedog]

Will a secret door on the back of the 3GS open? An update to allow flash on the iPhone? What?

If a new iPhone has a new camera and flash, it would be 4.0, as it's a new phone. Otherwise, no update to the software can allow a flash for the camera as-is...

Clarify?

They're probably talking about Adobe Flash.

[ImNoSuperMan]

Will a secret door on the back of the 3GS open? An update to allow flash on the iPhone? What?

If a new iPhone has a new camera and flash, it would be 4.0, as it's a new phone. Otherwise, no update to the software can allow a flash for the camera as-is...

Clarify?

OMG. I dont believe you didnt get what he meant. As the other two poster have already said, Its Adobe Flash which ipoppy was talking about. If apple gets adobe flash for iPhone then there would be very little difference in a full desktop browser and iPhone Safari.

[casmith07]

Beejive I think is the best of the three. I tried IM+ Lite to get a feel for it but I took the plunge and bought Beejive and it's definitely the best one.

[Saladinos]

Wow, from reading this, nobody has a clue how push works. Especially the preachers who like to bash everybody else's ideas.

And those people saying 'If you don't get one message a day, you don't need push' - cram it. I paid for push. Maybe I won't get a message one day - people have lives and things to do. If I paid for push, that is what I expect to receive. I don't care if 'I don't need push' - I paid for it, so the developers will deliver. This isn't free software and we're not 'users' - we're customers. That distinction demands a different approach.

Oh, and the push system doesn't involve any app on your phone. The app tells the system that you'll be getting push notifications for app-ID X. Those notifications come from Apple's servers to your phone, and the phone's system displays them. The app doesn't display them, and isn't even involved after the setup step. The developer's servers connect to the IM server, formatting messages and sending the user-friendly portions to Apple.

[morphineseason]

Open up the preferences app (not the beejive app) and select the beejive icon near the bottom. Scroll down and there should be an option for how fast it switches to away mode (along with your away message). Choose the option immediately upon app exit. Then start and quit the app.

Thanks for the reply, but that didn't work. It just puts me into away mode on exit, which as a result disables push notifications apparently. I'm trying to go into away mode while still being able to receive push notifications.

[yoomy]

Wow, from reading this, nobody has a clue how push works. Especially the preachers who like to bash everybody else's ideas.

And those people saying 'If you don't get one message a day, you don't need push' - cram it. I paid for push. Maybe I won't get a message one day - people have lives and things to do. If I paid for push, that is what I expect to receive. I don't care if 'I don't need push' - I paid for it, so the developers will deliver. This isn't free software and we're not 'users' - we're customers. That distinction demands a different approach.

Oh, and the push system doesn't involve any app on your phone. The app tells the system that you'll be getting push notifications for app-ID X. Those notifications come from Apple's servers to your phone, and the phone's system displays them. The app doesn't display them, and isn't even involved after the setup step. The developer's servers connect to the IM server, formatting messages and sending the user-friendly portions to Apple.

What is the point of this message? Trying to figure out your problem.

[casmith07]

Wow, from reading this, nobody has a clue how push works. Especially the preachers who like to bash everybody else's ideas.

And those people saying 'If you don't get one message a day, you don't need push' - cram it. I paid for push. Maybe I won't get a message one day - people have lives and things to do. If I paid for push, that is what I expect to receive. I don't care if 'I don't need push' - I paid for it, so the developers will deliver. This isn't free software and we're not 'users' - we're customers. That distinction demands a different approach.

Oh, and the push system doesn't involve any app on your phone. The app tells the system that you'll be getting push notifications for app-ID X. Those notifications come from Apple's servers to your phone, and the phone's system displays them. The app doesn't display them, and isn't even involved after the setup step. The developer's servers connect to the IM server, formatting messages and sending the user-friendly portions to Apple.

So the new Beejive 3.0 with push is like the push notifications for a new SMS message, not an e-mail push message, correct?

In the office and I don't get good 3G signal in here, just Edge. I'm not seeing an upgrade on the app store for me and when I click on Beejive it asks me to Buy Now.

[csmitty]

I went ahead and got IM+ mainly just because of the Skype support, if Beejive had that I would have gotten it. For the first few mins. IM+ seems pretty cool. Sure beats opening AIM, close, open Skype, close. open Facebook.....you get the idea. I can be patient and wait for the update.

[imacdaddy]

Beejives push works absolutely flawlessly. I expected it to have a few hiccups or glitches at first, but its just perfect! Well worth the $16 I paid when it first came out!

It was working smooth and flawlessly before today's update. Push does work almost instantaneously.

Major issues:

1. App keeps crashing even after a reboot.
2. Scrolling though my Buddies list is not smooth anymore and freezes
3. Switching between chat (touching the top bar of the person's name) brings me out of the app.

My settings:
1. Display only online friends
2. GTalk, Facebook and MSN Messenger accounts only

Anyone else having these issues? I'm using 3G iPhone (no jailbreak).

[imacdaddy]

So the new Beejive 3.0 with push is like the push notifications for a new SMS message, not an e-mail push message, correct?

Although I'm having some issues, Beejive is great and the push works as advertised.

Please note the push notification does not come via SMS or email push message. It shows up like a message on your screen when the app is closed/locked iPhone and the app icon will display a badge with number of unread messages. Touch on the push message automatically opens Beejive.

[casmith07]

I went ahead and got IM+ mainly just because of the Skype support, if Beejive had that I would have gotten it. For the first few mins. IM+ seems pretty cool. Sure beats opening AIM, close, open Skype, close. open Facebook.....you get the idea. I can be patient and wait for the update.

hey, cool user name :)

[casmith07]

Although I'm having some issues, Beejive is great and the push works as advertised.

Please note the push notification does not come via SMS or email push message. It shows up like a message on your screen when the app is closed/locked iPhone and the app icon will display a badge with number of unread messages. Touch on the push message automatically opens Beejive.

Right, thats what I meant - similar in the fashion that SMS messages are pushed as a notification on the screen and your iPhone is locked.

Hopefully my phone will tell me there's an upgrade on the app store...if not I'll have to find some WiFi during my lunch break :p

[powaking]

Logged into my accounts in Beejive. Closed it out, launched Gmail which also logs into my AIM account and I immediately got a message on my iphone that I was signed into 2 locations.

And yes I can't seem to log into Yahoo either.

[rez07]

Push is nice, Iphone notification system is not. I wait with anticipation the solutions that will come from the jailbreak comunity to replace the stupid popups in the middle of the screen

This is one of the solutions that will suport push notifications

http://code.google.com/p/networkpx/wiki/GriP

[bed]

Beejive is great, but has a couple of bugs. The first one is pretty major IMO and that is that the app crashes if you try and associate a buddy with an address book contact. Worse than that - it seems to make the link before crashing and if you subsequently go into the buddy details, it crashes again: The only fix is a delete and re-install followed by avoiding any address book links.


I've attached MANY buddy's with address book contacts today and it hasn't crashed once.

[room237]

I even set it up so that when i'm on my phone ONLY...it says MOBILE GCHAT.



Can you please explain how you did this?

Thanks!

[csmitty]

hey, cool user name :)

Thank ya's

[n8236]

Beejive ftw

Next update should include an overhaul of how texting should be done, they could take a page from irealsms or iquicksms (i think).

[saturniphone]

Wow, from reading this, nobody has a clue how push works. Especially the preachers who like to bash everybody else's ideas.

And those people saying 'If you don't get one message a day, you don't need push' - cram it. I paid for push. Maybe I won't get a message one day - people have lives and things to do. If I paid for push, that is what I expect to receive. I don't care if 'I don't need push' - I paid for it, so the developers will deliver. This isn't free software and we're not 'users' - we're customers. That distinction demands a different approach.

Oh, and the push system doesn't involve any app on your phone. The app tells the system that you'll be getting push notifications for app-ID X. Those notifications come from Apple's servers to your phone, and the phone's system displays them. The app doesn't display them, and isn't even involved after the setup step. The developer's servers connect to the IM server, formatting messages and sending the user-friendly portions to Apple.

What is your point? Did anyone in this entire thread say anything incorrect about how push works? And when did you "pay for push"? I got the 3.0 software for free and the AIM app for free.

The thing you don't seem to understand is that without real background apps there are going to be a lot of compromises in a lot of apps, not just IM clients. I don't really see how a Skype client, for example, could work all that well. Are you going to get a push notification when you get a phone call? Can I ever have an app that shuts off the ringer automatically after a certain time?

I just wish Apple would open things up. There's an army of people out there developing apps and I wouldn't mind seeing some that interact more directly with the OS to do things that have great utility instead of having 47 different fart applications.

[casmith07]

installed Beejive 3.0 this morning - push works flawlessly!

[tekboi]

I'm planning on purchasing bejeeve when I get my iphone. How does it compare to Adium. I love that program and I'm basically looking for an phone equivalent.

[irnchriz]

The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.

Easily fixed.

Set your status on the iPhone app to 'Away'

The messages only go to the desktop. Once you close the desktop app the messages go to the iPhone.

[Jayomat]

Push is nice, Iphone notification system is not. I wait with anticipation the solutions that will come from the jailbreak comunity to replace the stupid popups in the middle of the screen

This is one of the solutions that will suport push notifications

http://code.google.com/p/networkpx/wiki/GriP

+1111111111

[marksman]

No, it's a Twitter issue. Imagine if Tweetie decided to setup a push server, thus becoming the only twitter client for the iPhone that supported push. Everyone would use it, which is great, only until the bandwidth bill arrives. There is so much data pumping through twitter that it would not be economically feasible for tweetie to set this up.

That is not accurate.

140 character text bites is not going to be very expensive. Bandwidth is relatively cheap. Having 1 video likely would use the bandwidth for 10,000 twitter users.

That being said if it is a little bit more then can raise the price or charge a small monthly fee. Regardless, you are way over-rating how much bandwidth costs.

1 gig of bandwidth could handle almost 715k twitter messages. Go price 1 gig of bandwidth at reasonable bulk levels. Heck mobileme gives you like 200 gigs of bandwidth included with their package a month.

A terabyte of bandwidth would allow you to transmit 715 million twitter messages a month.

I just checked with my host and their cheapest dedicated server comes with 2 terabytes of bandwidth, and including the server is $129.00 a month.

So you could transmit 1.4 billion twitter messages a month and half a server to handle it (probably need to boost it up, but we are talking a few hundred dollars more, worst case scenario probably less than $1000 a month) to handle it.

Sure there is overhead and everything else.. but then lets cut that down to an even 1 billion. That would be enough for every person who owns an iphone and an ipod touch to received 25 twitter messages a month, via push.

Not to mention that is all probably completely unnecessary, as you only need to push the alert of the message and not the actual message itself. You could likely have some kind of monitoring to trigger the push, and then still have the app pull the messages from twitter via the API. Which means you could essentially have an infinite number of push notifications for twitter for $200 a month. The limiting factor would be the servers to manage this, but again, that is not that expensive, relatively speaking these days.

The problem is it is unlikely that most of the twitter app developers have the experience and background to do this without hiring more people. Running servers for things like this is very different than writing an application for a consumer product.

Fortunately it would not be impossible for someone to do it, if they wanted to tackle the problem. It would not be easy, but it is not cost prohibitive on most levels for any of the paid applications.

[Ori]

idotht believe push is a huge strain on your battery any more than exchange push is. You can have 50 push apps but there is still only one push daemon running. I mean, it could be push but there is so many variables it's hard to say if that's it.

I didn't think so either. Considering I already have mobileme push turned on I just went down from 79% to 58% in under an hour and I only had 10 messages come through on push total.

Hope this is a software glitch, and I will test it further, but as is I won't be able to keep it on. :-(

[irnchriz]

It just means you need to have push enabled, and that setting is tied into email on the iphone, more or less.

Wrong.

There is a separate push option for applications in the main settings menu called notifications.

[SkippyThorson]

They're probably talking about Adobe Flash.

OMG. I dont believe you didnt get what he meant. As the other two poster have already said, Its Adobe Flash which ipoppy was talking about. If apple gets adobe flash for iPhone then there would be very little difference in a full desktop browser and iPhone Safari.

:rolleyes:

Did I really post that? I did, didn't I?.. At what, 6:00 in the morning? That is the LAST time I ever post before the Today Show.

In other news, those reporting the Free AIM isn't working right - mine is working fine, and even did before the restart which I did last night too. I would certainly get the Paid AIM on its first price drop.

As some have said, I get the message on my phone within a literal second of hitting enter. Aside from needing a little polish here and there, and a cleaning of the Preference panes, it's really nice for free. The ad isn't even intrusive or annoying as some can be.

[dL.]

Finally I've waited for this day where I can really use MSN with push notification. Purchased Beehive IM. Well worth the $10.

dL

[rez07]

That is not accurate.

140 character text bites is not going to be very expensive. Bandwidth is relatively cheap. Having 1 video likely would use the bandwidth for 10,000 twitter users.

That being said if it is a little bit more then can raise the price or charge a small monthly fee. Regardless, you are way over-rating how much bandwidth costs.

1 gig of bandwidth could handle almost 715k twitter messages. Go price 1 gig of bandwidth at reasonable bulk levels. Heck mobileme gives you like 200 gigs of bandwidth included with their package a month.

A terabyte of bandwidth would allow you to transmit 715 million twitter messages a month.

I just checked with my host and their cheapest dedicated server comes with 2 terabytes of bandwidth, and including the server is $129.00 a month.

So you could transmit 1.4 billion twitter messages a month and half a server to handle it (probably need to boost it up, but we are talking a few hundred dollars more, worst case scenario probably less than $1000 a month) to handle it.

Sure there is overhead and everything else.. but then lets cut that down to an even 1 billion. That would be enough for every person who owns an iphone and an ipod touch to received 25 twitter messages a month, via push.

Not to mention that is all probably completely unnecessary, as you only need to push the alert of the message and not the actual message itself. You could likely have some kind of monitoring to trigger the push, and then still have the app pull the messages from twitter via the API. Which means you could essentially have an infinite number of push notifications for twitter for $200 a month. The limiting factor would be the servers to manage this, but again, that is not that expensive, relatively speaking these days.

The problem is it is unlikely that most of the twitter app developers have the experience and background to do this without hiring more people. Running servers for things like this is very different than writing an application for a consumer product.

Fortunately it would not be impossible for someone to do it, if they wanted to tackle the problem. It would not be easy, but it is not cost prohibitive on most levels for any of the paid applications.

Well, there´s at least one dedicated push twitter app submited to the appstore, and IM+ will support push for DMs and @s

[mikethebigo]

Apparantly apple is in awesome mode right now. The last few weeks have certainly been the most fun and exciting in a while.

[uhhitsjames]

Bought Beejive last night hoping for the upgrade to come soon, turned out I didn't need to wait for the upgrade because I actually got the 3.0 when I bought.

[Roy Hobbs]

Any one having issues with Beejive and MSN??
I get a notification every couple hours that says I'm disconnected

[Saladinos]

What is your point? Did anyone in this entire thread say anything incorrect about how push works? And when did you "pay for push"? I got the 3.0 software for free and the AIM app for free.

The thing you don't seem to understand is that without real background apps there are going to be a lot of compromises in a lot of apps, not just IM clients. I don't really see how a Skype client, for example, could work all that well. Are you going to get a push notification when you get a phone call? Can I ever have an app that shuts off the ringer automatically after a certain time?

I just wish Apple would open things up. There's an army of people out there developing apps and I wouldn't mind seeing some that interact more directly with the OS to do things that have great utility instead of having 47 different fart applications.

Early in this thread, people were having arguments about how they thought push worked. The point is that the app doesn't run when a push notification arrives. The notification is just some text that Apple sends to your phone and the OS displays without telling the app.

You could get Skype push notifications when you get a call. However, since calls only work on WiFi, this is of limited use.

You could get push working for Twitter. It has nothing to do with Twitter's servers. An app server could periodically poll your followed people to check for new messages and send a push notification when there has been. It's a fetch system, so the notifications wouldn't be near-instant, but they would work when the app is closed.

Push is a fairly convoluted way of getting background apps, but it's the most battery efficient way, which makes it the best in Apple's view.

Oh, and I did pay for Push: I paid for the 3.0 update for my iPod touch, I paid for the 3.0 update for my iPhone in my subscription (according to Apple's accountants), I paid for BeeJive, so I did pay for push. I don't want it logging me out and shutting off my push after arbitrary inactivity periods.

[BigTRQ]

I've got the latest Beejive version, but I don't seem to be getting Push notifications. Beejive's support website hasn't been updated yet to reflect the new Beejive version.

Anyone wanna post a "how-to" on setting up Beejive to work properly to get push notifications?

:D

[aibo]

Just FYI, push notifications don't work (yet) for 3.0 iPhones that weren't activated through iTunes, ie 2.5G iPhones unlocked + using T-Mobile.

[srl7741]

I've got the latest Beejive version, but I don't seem to be getting Push notifications. Beejive's support website hasn't been updated yet to reflect the new Beejive version.

Anyone wanna post a "how-to" on setting up Beejive to work properly to get push notifications?

:D

Settings/Notifications. Turn it on.

[sassenach74]

Anyone else not getting a sound with their push notifications?

Finally Yahoo seems to be working right now, so thats a start, just want sounds/vibration alerts to work :confused:

[bbear999]

Any one having issues with Beejive and MSN??
I get a notification every couple hours that says I'm disconnected

I'm having the same problem with MSN this morning. AIM stays connected but every couple hours I get disconnected from MSN.

[BigTRQ]

Settings/Notifications. Turn it on.First two things I tapped, obviously (not that dumb). Still, no push notifications. Any other ideas? :D

[ChrisBrightwell]

That is not accurate.

An apt description for the rest of your post. Bandwidth is expensive.

[geestring]

Wrong.

There is a separate push option for applications in the main settings menu called notifications.

it's not working for me...

I've activated the Push option in the beejive settings and the iphone notification settings. Do i need to disable the push in beejive and delete the email i put in there?

[GoneBabyGone]

Beejive isn't giving me the update option.

I found 3.0 in the App Store, but the updates tab says "All Apps Are Up To Date At This Time."

My Beejive version is still 2.0.21 (I think that's what the numbers are)

[MacVixen]

Beejive isn't giving me the update option.

I found 3.0 in the App Store, but the updates tab says "All Apps Are Up To Date At This Time."

My Beejive version is still 2.0.21 (I think that's what the numbers are)

Did that for me too at first. I just exited out of applications, got back in and the update was there. You might also want to try restarting your phone.

[davyreins]

I noticed that using push seems to be draining some batteries, are other people not experiencing decreased battery life at all?

[Foras]

@marksman
Youre confusing gigabytes with gigabits. Bandwidth is measured in Megabits, Gigabits etc. Storage is measured in megabytes giga etc... And yes, bandwidth is expensive

[Foras]

Just FYI, push notifications don't work (yet) for 3.0 iPhones that weren't activated through iTunes, ie 2.5G iPhones unlocked + using T-Mobile.

Yup i can confirm that. Hope it will be fixed soon or else I'm getting a 3GS

[GoneBabyGone]

Tried restarting as well as syncing up with itunes. No updates showing up in the app store.

[redskinsf]

For those who are using push notifications.. I've heard from friends that if you use push notifications AND use the alarm clock on your iPhone, you will run into problems...

Supposedly if you have your phone set on vibrate and you get a push notification in the middle of the night and you don't clear the notification.. it will sit in front of your alarm basically and the alarm clock on the iPhone will not go off until you clear out the push notification that was ahead of it.

I personally DO use my iPhone as my alarm in the mornings, so to be safe, I've turned Push Notifications off until Apple addresses this issue.

Anyone else heard of this??

[igazza]

Any one having issues with Beejive and MSN??
I get a notification every couple hours that says I'm disconnected

Settings

BeejiveIM

Session timeout (can be set to 24 hours).

[aaquib]

Beejive is awesome! But, with no data, it's very limiting for me :(.

It would be soo cool if there was an app that would basically convert IM's to SMS's that you could receive.

[sebast1anc]

The AIM free app is beyond glitchy. I don't know if the paid version is any better, but I went ahead and bought BeeJive for 10 bucks and it is DEFINITELY worth it. It runs much much much smoother than AIM. On AIM, it lags showing the message you just sent in the conversation, and takes forever to load each time you want to view a message. BeeJive is practically instant, and conversations are very smooth. You also don't have to hear the annoying default AIM sound as it uses the iChat sounds.

If you were unsure about BeeJive, GO FOR IT. Especially at 9.99.

[Rorikynn]

Push is nice, Iphone notification system is not. I wait with anticipation the solutions that will come from the jailbreak comunity to replace the stupid popups in the middle of the screen

This is one of the solutions that will suport push notifications

http://code.google.com/p/networkpx/wiki/GriP

You know, in the settings.app, you can set notifications settings per app to just display a badge and not play a sound or throw an alert. GriP is redundant, unless push doesn't work on jailbroken devices.

[chrisoverzero]

Twitter needs to make changes on their end before a Twitter app can use Push Notifications. This (http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter/topics/twitter_needs_to_support_push_notifications_on_the_iphone) is written by the developer of Twitterrific; I imagine he'd know.

[room237]

Easily fixed.

Set your status on the iPhone app to 'Away'

The messages only go to the desktop. Once you close the desktop app the messages go to the iPhone.

I've done this and I'm still getting messages on both the desktop and the iPhone...

kind of disappointing.

[iNelson]

[QUOTE=sebast1anc;7924914]The AIM free app is beyond glitchy. I don't know if the paid version is any better, but I went ahead and bought BeeJive for 10 bucks and it is DEFINITELY worth it. It runs much much much smoother than AIM. On AIM, it lags showing the message you just sent in the conversation, and takes forever to load each time you want to view a message. BeeJive is practically instant, and conversations are very smooth. You also don't have to hear the annoying default AIM sound as it uses the iChat sounds.

I have the free version, seemed to work well, and fast. I liked the sound too, a little louder than SMS (and different)

I wish you could use various sounds for mail, texts and especially calendar.

[oneschance]

The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.



Are you sure it deserves a "terrible" or do you need to sign off on your phone before you log on to you desktop app? otherwise the phone app is working like it's supposed to.

[Saladinos]

Found an interesting little bug in push notification:

Unix special characters aren't parsed out. That means you can create a new line in a push message by typing \n. So if someone sends you \n\n\n\n\n\n\n, it'll be a large blank popup. These are parsed out of the app's message window, so the message shows up as \n\n\n\n\n...etc there.

Similarly, if your message contains a quotation mark (") or slash (\), you won't get the message. To get around this, you have to replace quotation marks with \" and slashes with \\.

So, if I'm sent the messages: (Slash1\) and (Slash2\\), I'll only get a push notification for (Slash2\\). However, when I open the app again, I'll see Slash1\ and Slash2\\.

[Branskins]

I've already noticed a big problem today...while sleeping AP News pushed me a strory, but someone texted me and wiped away the notification. Can Apple split the lock screen between notifications? Like the top for texting pop ups and the bottom for pushed content? Swiping your finger over the pop up would also display other messages or pushed information.

[billchase2]

I'm using AIM but for some reason it's not noticing some recent changes I made to my buddy list, so I'm missing an entire group of people. Any ideas on how to get it to refresh properly?

[rez07]

For those who are using push notifications.. I've heard from friends that if you use push notifications AND use the alarm clock on your iPhone, you will run into problems...

Supposedly if you have your phone set on vibrate and you get a push notification in the middle of the night and you don't clear the notification.. it will sit in front of your alarm basically and the alarm clock on the iPhone will not go off until you clear out the push notification that was ahead of it.

I personally DO use my iPhone as my alarm in the mornings, so to be safe, I've turned Push Notifications off until Apple addresses this issue.

Anyone else heard of this??

f...then it was that!!!! monday i was late to work because the alarm did not go off! that is so retarded

[rez07]

Twitter needs to make changes on their end before a Twitter app can use Push Notifications. This (http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter/topics/twitter_needs_to_support_push_notifications_on_the_iphone) is written by the developer of Twitterrific; I imagine he'd know.

Again...in this forum you will find a developer that talked said he submited a twitter push app. And im+ will support push for twitter. So, you´re wrong

[yoomy]

For those who are using push notifications.. I've heard from friends that if you use push notifications AND use the alarm clock on your iPhone, you will run into problems...

Supposedly if you have your phone set on vibrate and you get a push notification in the middle of the night and you don't clear the notification.. it will sit in front of your alarm basically and the alarm clock on the iPhone will not go off until you clear out the push notification that was ahead of it.

I personally DO use my iPhone as my alarm in the mornings, so to be safe, I've turned Push Notifications off until Apple addresses this issue.

Anyone else heard of this??

tried it myself and cannot confirm this!

[rez07]

you have to set your iphone on vibrate, get a push notification message, and see if the alarm plays

[Ipimpjuice]

IM+ has push notification through EMAIL! F that! BeeJive is $9.99, and if im reading correctly works through SMS! AIM i will keep checking on as last night it was still showing the old version. On the whole Im very disappointed by push, I thought the applications were going to notify my themselves, not take advantage of mobile me to provide the push.

Sorely disappointed with Push
-iPimpjuice

[AnteChrist]

No, it's a Twitter issue. Imagine if Tweetie decided to setup a push server, thus becoming the only twitter client for the iPhone that supported push. Everyone would use it, which is great, only until the bandwidth bill arrives. There is so much data pumping through twitter that it would not be economically feasible for tweetie to set this up.

No offense, but you don't have any idea what you're talking about. It's not a twitter issue. Twitter traffic increases no more than it would if you ran a Twitter client in the background on your phone - they still have limits to their API calls. All the push to the phone and pull from twitter would be handled by the twitter client server (tweetdeck, tweetie, etc.).

Stop spreading misinformation.

[yoomy]

you have to set your iphone on vibrate, get a push notification message, and see if the alarm plays

Like I said, I tried it myself exactly the way you described it and it works. The alarm still goes off.

[yoomy]

IM+ has push notification through EMAIL! F that! BeeJive is $9.99, and if im reading correctly works through SMS! AIM i will keep checking on as last night it was still showing the old version. On the whole Im very disappointed by push, I thought the applications were going to notify my themselves, not take advantage of mobile me to provide the push.

Sorely disappointed with Push
-iPimpjuice


The applications notify apple and apple pushes a notification on your iphone, has nothing to do with email or SMS!

[ChrisBrightwell]

Again...in this forum you will find a developer that talked said he submited a twitter push app. And im+ will support push for twitter. So, you´re wrong

I'm willing to bet that their push implementation for Twitter involves some sort of credential caching on one of their servers somewhere. Caveat emptor.

[ChrisBrightwell]

All the push to the phone and pull from twitter would be handled by the twitter client server (tweetdeck, tweetie, etc.).

... Exept that TweetDeck, Tweetie, and all of the popular Twitter applications connect directly to the Twitter servers, not to some intermediate "application" server.

Stop spreading misinformation.

Agreed.

[iMacDragon]

IM+ has push notification through EMAIL! F that! BeeJive is $9.99, and if im reading correctly works through SMS! AIM i will keep checking on as last night it was still showing the old version. On the whole Im very disappointed by push, I thought the applications were going to notify my themselves, not take advantage of mobile me to provide the push.

Sorely disappointed with Push
-iPimpjuice

IM+ is getting proper iphone push updating soon as apple approve it, beejive's update last night added it. albeit it's a little flaky right now, the email and sms refer to their attempted solutions for 2.0, not 3.0.

[michael.lauden]

IM+ has push notification through EMAIL! F that! BeeJive is $9.99, and if im reading correctly works through SMS! AIM i will keep checking on as last night it was still showing the old version. On the whole Im very disappointed by push, I thought the applications were going to notify my themselves, not take advantage of mobile me to provide the push.

Sorely disappointed with Push
-iPimpjuice

ummm....

IM+ 3.1 pushes through notifications, IM+3.0 pushes through e-mail. don't be confused with Apple's 3.0 and IM+'s 3.0.


look more into it. if you delete AIM and reinstall it you will get the new version.

[vanfanel1]

IM+ has push notification through EMAIL! F that! BeeJive is $9.99, and if im reading correctly works through SMS! AIM i will keep checking on as last night it was still showing the old version. On the whole Im very disappointed by push, I thought the applications were going to notify my themselves, not take advantage of mobile me to provide the push.

Sorely disappointed with Push
-iPimpjuice

There seems to be a lot of confusion over push notification. I think your getting confused with MobileMe's push email service and apple's new push notification service. These are 2 different things. Apple's new push notification service does not use SMS. It may show up on your iphone looking like a txt msg but it is not and will not count towards your sms plan and has nothing to do with MobileMe.

[Ademius]

I bought Beejive IM 3.0 and have been trying it out through out the day. I had som initial problems with disconnections after exiting the app and locking the phone. I thought it was related to session timeouts, but I had set it to 24 hours. It might have been server overloading.

I've been logged in for about 3 hours now without any disconnects. The push notifications work really good. It's just like having a desktop client in the backround. The experience is just seemless, if I didn't know better I would say it ran in the backround.

It's been a long while of waiting, but it was definatly worth it so far. I just wonder if the 20%-ish drain on battery will hold up.

[marksman]

Twitter needs to make changes on their end before a Twitter app can use Push Notifications. This (http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter/topics/twitter_needs_to_support_push_notifications_on_the_iphone) is written by the developer of Twitterrific; I imagine he'd know.

While technically accurate not entirely accurate. Sure they could sit around and wait for twitter to do something. But then what do we need them for...

Given that they can already access the data, they can create their own push server to send notifications to apple if they chose to do that. That developer does not choose to undertake that project but instead hopes that twitter will create a means to send notifications to the iphones directly. This seems a bit weird to me, but I don't know anything about the twitter API. I am not entirely sure what Twitter's motivation would be for this... I would think something like this they would want to control themselves so they could make their own iPhone app and have people use it, if and when they ever decide they want to actually make money with their site.

If twitter is working on a solution, great, I don't care one way or another. For a developer to claim it is not possible to do without that change is simply not true.

[ChrisBrightwell]

Given that they can already access the data, they can create their own push server to send notifications to apple if they chose to do that.

I'd argue that this is prohibitively expensive. If they have to cache your login credentials (since they'd probably have to count each scrape against your daily API call allowance), I'd also argue that it's a grey area for security, ethics, privacy, and a host of other problem areas.

I don't know anything about the twitter API.

This is a shocking revelation, I assure you.

[...] they could make their own iPhone app and have people use it, if and when they ever decide they want to actually make money with their site.

You can monetize your service without gouging end users. (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=anyUq3GLTV8A#)

[Bradley W]

For those who are using push notifications.. I've heard from friends that if you use push notifications AND use the alarm clock on your iPhone, you will run into problems...

Supposedly if you have your phone set on vibrate and you get a push notification in the middle of the night and you don't clear the notification.. it will sit in front of your alarm basically and the alarm clock on the iPhone will not go off until you clear out the push notification that was ahead of it.

I personally DO use my iPhone as my alarm in the mornings, so to be safe, I've turned Push Notifications off until Apple addresses this issue.

Anyone else heard of this??

This actually has happened to me, it is a bug, a really annoying bug. Had Apple not been so closed in their push notification trails (I'm a developer but didn't get the email) perhaps this bug could have been avoided???

[mrbrightside623]

Ok I went ahead and emailed Beejive support because like many of you, I can't get into Yahoo Messenger. This is the response I got from Beejive.

Hi,

Sorry for the inconvenience. There has been a change in the yahoo servers. There is an issue with third party clients. We are currently working actively on the problem and will try to get it up and running in the next patch.

Thank You for your patience!

[ventmore]

There's a thread on the Beejive forums about increasing the timeout:

http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1725

One of the mods has replied with:

"We understand this request. We can certainly up the timeout in the next update, it's a relatively simple change."

On a separate note, I'm getting the notifications through just fine, but when I get a disconnect notification, no sound is played. I'm assuming this is how it's supposed to be, but personally, I would like an audible notification if I get signed out.

[sphoenix]

that's nice. now all I need to wait for is a price cut :)

[redskinsf]

This actually has happened to me, it is a bug, a really annoying bug. Had Apple not been so closed in their push notification trails (I'm a developer but didn't get the email) perhaps this bug could have been avoided???

I think it most usually happens with the AP app... I'm curious to know if other apps (ALL Push Notifications) will cause the Alarm Clock not to sound off if a push notification comes in during the night.

[macfan881]

that's nice. now all I need to wait for is a price cut :)

if ur talkin bout beejive its stil $9.99 normally 16.99 dont think its going to be getting much lower

[AnteChrist]

... Exept that TweetDeck, Tweetie, and all of the popular Twitter applications connect directly to the Twitter servers, not to some intermediate "application" server.

It's the same exact model.

The Twitter "application" that would normally run on your desktop or iPhone is now an application server. This server had your iPhone information, and your Twitter account information (searches, etc., depending on the app). It constantly polls for updates across Twitter just like the actual application when it's running on your phone.

When it finds an update, it pushes it to your phone through APNS. It is NO DIFFERENT than a regular Twitter application. It just shifts the polling from the phone app to the app server. Yes, there are server costs, but they are surely attainable and not ridiculous. The first to implement this will make a lot of money.

[GutBomb]

I think it most usually happens with the AP app... I'm curious to know if other apps (ALL Push Notifications) will cause the Alarm Clock not to sound off if a push notification comes in during the night.

Someone sent me a message on beejive around 4:30 in the morning last night, it did push a notification, I was not awake. My alarm went off at 8:30 this morning just like normal. I did not have my phone set to vibrate.

[GutBomb]

It's the same exact model.

The Twitter "application" that would normally run on your desktop or iPhone is now an application server. This server had your iPhone information, and your Twitter account information (searches, etc., depending on the app). It constantly polls for updates across Twitter just like the actual application when it's running on your phone.

When it finds an update, it pushes it to your phone through APNS. It is NO DIFFERENT than a regular Twitter application. It just shifts the polling from the phone app to the app server. Yes, there are server costs, but they are surely attainable and not ridiculous. The first to implement this will make a lot of money.

Why don't you try it if you think it's so attainable.

It's VERY cost prohibitive.

You're certainly not the first person to come up with this idea. The developers of the twitter apps have all tried to come up with a cost-friendly solution and haven't found one yet.

[casmith07]

if ur talkin bout beejive its stil $9.99 normally 16.99 dont think its going to be getting much lower

Yeah and $9.99 is really good for what Beejive does.

Additionally, how do you set your iPhone to have Alarm Only and no other sounds so that I don't get woken up by a push notification or something else?

[jontucker]

Someone sent me a message on beejive around 4:30 in the morning last night, it did push a notification, I was not awake. My alarm went off at 8:30 this morning just like normal. I did not have my phone set to vibrate.

I just tested in with the AIM client. Push arrived then the alarm went off as normal. Only thing I noticed is that the push notification didn't display after I had cleared the alarm (it did have the number on the icon once unlocked though).

[GutBomb]

Yeah and $9.99 is really good for what Beejive does.

Additionally, how do you set your iPhone to have Alarm Only and no other sounds so that I don't get woken up by a push notification or something else?

turn each of them off individually in the sound and push settings?

[cherbert]

Why don't you try it if you think it's so attainable.

It's VERY cost prohibitive.

You're certainly not the first person to come up with this idea. The developers of the twitter apps have all tried to come up with a cost-friendly solution and haven't found one yet.

So explain to me how the team behind IM+ have managed to implement a solution? I get @replies and DM's pushed to my email. So logic dictates that there is absolutely no reason why this won't become a push notification in the soon to be released IM+ 3.1

It is obvious they are polling your twitter account maybe every 3 or 4 minutes. Its so simple I don't know why people are even continuing this discussion. Nothing stopping TweetDeck or Tweetie from implementing a server infrastructure to poll/push for their customers.

[richard4339]

I have the same problem. I had a friend send me a message which got pushed to my phone. When i jumped on my computer to chat, it still sent the messages to my phone. Was very annoying. Any one have any clues on how this can be changed?

AIM will send to the client that's available. BeeJive has an auto-away feature that sets it to away when you exit the app. If you do this, when you sign in elsewhere, it will send it to your available app.

[Diversion]

To me, it seems like just idling inside the AIM application just drains 1% of battery life per 2-3 minutes.. This tells me when you're inside AIM you're keeping a real, live connection to the AIM servers..

This needs to be ditched in favor of a proxy server or just stick to pushing incoming and OUTgoing messages (if possible) and we'd have wayyy better battery life..

Think about how the Sidekick can stay on multiple e-mail push clients, multiple chatting clients, etc.etc. and get 8+ hours of real hands on usage. Danger uses a very nice proxy/push system. We can't afford to maintain live/active internet connections where the 3g/Edge connection is being held open until you leave the application.

Or lastly, just open and close a connection on sent messages and use push for all incoming messages. I've lost 20% battery life idling in aim over 15 minutes on my 3GS.

[ChrisBrightwell]

So explain to me how the team behind IM+ have managed to implement a solution?

You're clearly the industry expert on this topic. I'm out.

[gusapple]

Can somebody post a screenshot of the "More..." Tab in Beejive? Thanks:D

[wallinbl]

idotht believe push is a huge strain on your battery any more than exchange push is. You can have 50 push apps but there is still only one push daemon running. I mean, it could be push but there is so many variables it's hard to say if that's it.

If your phone vibrates with every notification, then the battery is going to eat it.

[xyz01]

That was expected to happened this time with new iPhone release. You probably have to wait for proper iChat AV with front camera another year. I am sure they are working on it since so many people want it. Its stupid to start this rumors now but I am sure that 2010 iphone will have:
- ichatAV video conferencing
- OLED screen to cut battery usage
- better battery
- better camera lens
- flash but maybe just update to OS 3.0 will do
- perhaps better screen resolution and dual core processor
- slightly new design

Front camera is just a bad idea. The usage scenario screams "awkward" - holding your phone in front of you to talk to someone just isn't a userfriendly approach. There a many phones with this ability, but the video calls over 3G - one of the great 3G "bullet points" when 3G was introduced here ages ago - is a flop.

No reason for Apple to add that.

[FenixDrakken]

Can anyone with AIM tell me if there is a way to only receive vibration notifications? I turned off "Sound" notifications for AIM in the Push section of the Settings app, and notifications don't vibrate anymore. I can't bear to hear the AIM noise for every single message I get. Does BeeJive do the same thing?

[room237]

AIM will send to the client that's available. BeeJive has an auto-away feature that sets it to away when you exit the app. If you do this, when you sign in elsewhere, it will send it to your available app.

What about G-Chat? Some messages are sent only to my desktop, some are sent to both. Seems completely random. I get the same results whether I set my iPhone BeeJive to Away or Busy. It's kind of annoying.

Also I'm not sure the auto-away feature works very well, at least not the auto-away message.

[ImNoSuperMan]

Push is nice, Iphone notification system is not. I wait with anticipation the solutions that will come from the jailbreak comunity to replace the stupid popups in the middle of the screen

This is one of the solutions that will suport push notifications

http://code.google.com/p/networkpx/wiki/GriP

Wow. It`ll be hell lot better than Apple`s current implementation of push IF it does work as described. But I dont want a Jailbreak solution. Not coz my iPhone is not jailbroken but coz with each software update, the jailbroken apps become unavailable for weeks until the new software dev team breaks the code again and the jailbroken apps too need to be updated for the new software which could further stretch the waiting period. Why cant apple get some thing like this by themselves. Remember the times when software used to be apple`s biggest strength. It still is but they are not proving themselves anymore.

I hope Steve Jobs is recovered well enough to personally kick his software engineers in the behind:o. Or atleast hire more engineers for the job. With the iPhone software, OSX, MobileMe, Push, iPod classic/nano OS along with FCP and other home apps Apples got more in their hands they can handle. They have over 30Billion $ lying around in Cash. What are they waiting for now.

[bbear999]

Well I found out why I was being disconnected from MSN on Beejive. From the Beejive forums:

Logging out after 20 minutes
If you are getting logged out after ~20 minutes (and you don't want to) be sure to update your session time out setting. Close BeejiveIM, and then go to Settings -> Beejive, and scroll down to the Network an Push section to change this value.

Connection Issues
Most connection issues have be resolved. There was an unrelated issue with Yahoo login (due to some server issues they made) so we needed to patch our servers at the same time everyone was trying to get on the 3.0 release... bad timing. Good news is the servers are patched and you should be able to login (and stay logged in) from here on out.

Also:

Recording and sending videos via BeejiveIM on the 3GS will be in the next release that is being submitted this week.

[ipoppy]

Front camera is just a bad idea. The usage scenario screams "awkward" - holding your phone in front of you to talk to someone just isn't a userfriendly approach. There a many phones with this ability, but the video calls over 3G - one of the great 3G "bullet points" when 3G was introduced here ages ago - is a flop.

No reason for Apple to add that.

Sorry but I wouldn't be so pessimistic about this idea at all. It is great technology to be used anywhere. I don't know where you are from but here in UK we got Three (http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Services/Call_chat/Call_chat_category?content_aid=1220455603047#service_1220455637954.html) ,which is really good for this kind of things and few friends of mine using this service frequently with pleasure.
iChat AV on iphone will go further because you will be able to speak to your friends and family at home PC (hmm Mac acctually :D)when you are away. Countless possibilities.
I believe they are working on it as we speak because people wanted that thing from 1st generation on iPhone but bandwidth issue (especially in US) made that progress slow. However there is some progress anyway as we see in here (http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/02/02/a-video-conferencing-iphone-in-the-works/).
It is not a flop my friend, its happening. Plus you know Apple and their relationship to King Midas and the Golden Touch I guess:cool:

[sphoenix]

if ur talkin bout beejive its stil $9.99 normally 16.99 dont think its going to be getting much lowerAre you serious? So it was originally £10 here? SHÏT...

[jasko]

Bought Beejive last night for $9.99 and like it a lot so far.

[leslie.g]

beejive seems to have been taken from the app store

http://www.grabup.com/uploads/ee9fe9a49de136071068574b6072c471.png?direct

bummer :( i rly want to download it!

[Faye]

I wouldn't get too excited, it's been 503 erroring for me all morning. I guess they can't cope with the new customers or the extended online periods (again) this happened shortly after they released the first version with email notifications.

[efp1]

I wouldn't get too excited, it's been 503 erroring for me all morning. I guess they can't cope with the new customers or the extended online periods (again) this happened shortly after they released the first version with email notifications.

It's working for me again. I guess they couldn't handle all the new users connecting to their server.

[rez07]

Wow. It`ll be hell lot better than Apple`s current implementation of push IF it does work as described. But I dont want a Jailbreak solution. Not coz my iPhone is not jailbroken but coz with each software update, the jailbroken apps become unavailable for weeks until the new software dev team breaks the code again and the jailbroken apps too need to be updated for the new software which could further stretch the waiting period. Why cant apple get some thing like this by themselves. Remember the times when software used to be apple`s biggest strength. It still is but they are not proving themselves anymore.

I hope Steve Jobs is recovered well enough to personally kick his software engineers in the behind:o. Or atleast hire more engineers for the job. With the iPhone software, OSX, MobileMe, Push, iPod classic/nano OS along with FCP and other home apps Apples got more in their hands they can handle. They have over 30Billion $ lying around in Cash. What are they waiting for now.



Good news! Latest build of GriP adds support for Push Notifications, replacing the normal popups!!!

More details

http://networkpx.blogspot.com/2009/06/grip-01-11n-released.html#comments


Here´s a test...remember this is highly customizable, and the app is just in beta.

http://yfrog.com/18vlej beejive

http://yfrog.com/18vlej beejive + HeiWAY

http://yfrog.com/0kxusj Message Log - please make this accessible via sbs settings toggle or like an app on SB

[SleepyHead157]

I'm happy for this. Although I don't use the AIM app on my iphone much, this might push me to use it a little bit more. look forward to it.

[saturniphone]

There's a thread on the Beejive forums about increasing the timeout:

http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1725

One of the mods has replied with:

"We understand this request. We can certainly up the timeout in the next update, it's a relatively simple change."

Awesome. Awesome to the max. I'll buy it if I get something substantially greater than 24 hours.

[Dammit Cubs]

am I the only one having connecting issues. Beejive keeps saying: disconnect from gmail.


FAIL

[kgraf6]

Purchased the BeejiveIM a few hours ago.
Working great! I love Push.

The only issue I am having is I cannot connect to Facebook IM chat. Weird...

[bier-meister]

Purchased the BeejiveIM a few hours ago.
Working great! I love Push.

The only issue I am having is I cannot connect to Facebook IM chat. Weird...

Facebook is disabled at the moment, they are doing some work on it. You can keep track of things on their support forum (http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=0222efef8154dcf5bf75193a7170d4e8), they are fairly good at keeping their customers up to date.

[stlwx21]

Are they still having some issues?

I completely sign out of Beejive on my phone, all accounts. And it is still pushing IMs from AIM and facebook to my phone.

Strange. Anyone else experiencing this?

[jimmy83]

Are they still having some issues?

I completely sign out of Beejive on my phone, all accounts. And it is still pushing IMs from AIM and facebook to my phone.

Strange. Anyone else experiencing this?

Just installed beejive, and cant connect to facebook chat, iam on the latest version of beejive :(

[richxps]

Quick quesiton, if i choose to stay logged in 24 hours on these, once i get a message will that reset my 24 hour from the time i received the msg ? or after 24 hours with or without activity am i logged off ? Just wondering. Thanks