PDA

View Full Version : Apple TV Hack Help




rccballers
Jun 24, 2009, 04:59 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster!

So, about a year and a half ago, I bought an Apple TV with 160gb that was pre-hacked. I currently use frontrow and Cyberduck as my FTP to get movies and such to the ATV. Now the problem is that I can't access iTunes nor can I access Youtube, etc. I believe that this is because the version of the ATV software I have on it is so old. I would like to update the software and re-install the hack. I don't know which hack is on there, nor do I know how to find the best hack available that will give me a similar interface to what I currently have. Any help is appreciated. And I apologize in advance of the inability to figure this out myself.



chrysrobyn
Jun 24, 2009, 06:45 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster!
I would like to update the software and re-install the hack. I don't know which hack is on there, nor do I know how to find the best hack available that will give me a similar interface to what I currently have. Any help is appreciated.

I suggest spending some time with awkwardtv.org and their wiki. At the minimum, you probably have Perian, although it's likely you have ATVFiles and a few others.

tom1971
Jun 24, 2009, 10:28 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster!

So, about a year and a half ago, I bought an Apple TV with 160gb that was pre-hacked. I currently use frontrow and Cyberduck as my FTP to get movies and such to the ATV. Now the problem is that I can't access iTunes nor can I access Youtube, etc. I believe that this is because the version of the ATV software I have on it is so old. I would like to update the software and re-install the hack. I don't know which hack is on there, nor do I know how to find the best hack available that will give me a similar interface to what I currently have. Any help is appreciated. And I apologize in advance of the inability to figure this out myself.

Check this (http://patchstick.wikispaces.com/Scripts+2.3.1c) for more details on available plugins

Chipskip
Jun 28, 2009, 10:07 AM
We need more information about what you were doing.... which hack you were using: Boxee, XBMC or NitoTV?

forum.boxee.tv
www.xbmc.org/forum

Airforcekid
Jun 28, 2009, 11:09 AM
www.atvflash.com great software easy to do.Just restore and update to 2.4 then install atv flash.

tom1971
Jun 28, 2009, 11:32 AM
www.atvflash.com great software easy to do.Just restore and update to 2.4 then install atv flash.

The problem with atvflash is that they still offer the same old plugins of 2.3.1 which are known to crash on the ATV. Check their forum and you see that people are not happy with it. Basically they rushed out an "update" the same day the new firmware was released, but basically only one plugin was updated.
Furthermore there is no way to test their solution before buying it.

Here (http://patchstick.wikispaces.com/PatchStickBuilder) is a solution that can be tested for free.
This solution also allows you to install and de-install any kind of plugin without having to re-patch your ATV, as is the case with the atvflash solution

rccballers
Jun 29, 2009, 02:39 PM
We need more information about what you were doing.... which hack you were using: Boxee, XBMC or NitoTV?

forum.boxee.tv
www.xbmc.org/forum

I mentioned in my original post that I don't know which hack I had on there...I bought it this way and now iTunes doesn't work on it. So, I updated the ATV software and everything works, but the hack is no longer. Basically, I had the regular ATV menu, and then another menu that was titled "Files". From there I could go to "Movies" and store my movies on the ATV. The problem is, the hack seems complicated. I can probably figure it out, but I do need to re-enable the SSH on the ATV. I can almost kill myself right now for doing the update, but hindsight is 20/20. Any and all help is utmost appreciated.

Chipskip
Jun 30, 2009, 07:31 AM
...I do need to re-enable the SSH on the ATV. I can almost kill myself right now for doing the update, but hindsight is 20/20. Any and all help is utmost appreciated.

Take a look at this site: http://develop.dcolumbus.net/software/xbmc-on-apple-tv/ It is a guide to creating a usb patchstick for enabling SSH and installing XBMC and/or Boxee.

It sounds like you had NitoTV installed on your aTv. It is very easy to install. I recommend searching and reading both the XBMC forums and Boxee as they have several threads helping people get started.

Also, the XBMC.org/forums website has a guide on how to turn off automatic updates so you don't have to stress this again.

Good Luck!

rccballers
Jun 30, 2009, 12:30 PM
Thanks, Chipstart. I am going to follow those directions. Hopefully they are simple enough. I really appreciate your help. The hack you mentioned sounds very familiar, I too believe that is what was on it. So the question is, do I throw that back on there, or go with Boxee (I have heard that it has some glitches), or something else? I like the apple interface. Anyone using Boxee or other hacks, or other hacks that still utilize the GUI of the ATV that could give me some input, that would be great!

kadeschs
Jun 30, 2009, 02:41 PM
The problem with atvflash is that they still offer the same old plugins of 2.3.1 which are known to crash on the ATV. Check their forum and you see that people are not happy with it. Basically they rushed out an "update" the same day the new firmware was released, but basically only one plugin was updated.
Furthermore there is no way to test their solution before buying it.

Here (http://patchstick.wikispaces.com/PatchStickBuilder) is a solution that can be tested for free.
This solution also allows you to install and de-install any kind of plugin without having to re-patch your ATV, as is the case with the atvflash solution

I'm one of those people that are not happy. It was barely passable under 2.3.1, but too buggy for 2.4. I wish I had not upgraded. It appears your PatchStickBuilder is also for 2.3.1 only. I guess it's a waiting game.

TuckBodi
Jun 30, 2009, 02:57 PM
Check this (http://patchstick.wikispaces.com/Scripts+2.3.1c) for more details on available plugins

Do you really have to type all those Unix commands just to install nitoTV and CouchSurfer? Don't you have an automated way of doing this (like a menu)? And how much does this cost?

tom1971
Jun 30, 2009, 05:21 PM
I'm one of those people that are not happy. It was barely passable under 2.3.1, but too buggy for 2.4. I wish I had not upgraded. It appears your PatchStickBuilder is also for 2.3.1 only. I guess it's a waiting game.

PatchStickbuilder works also to patch 2.4 - you need the 2.3.1 firmware to create the working patchstick.

tom1971
Jun 30, 2009, 05:25 PM
Do you really have to type all those Unix commands just to install nitoTV and CouchSurfer? Don't you have an automated way of doing this (like a menu)? And how much does this cost?

Due to legal requirements, fully automated scripts cannot be provided

Chipskip
Jun 30, 2009, 05:52 PM
Do you really have to type all those Unix commands just to install nitoTV and CouchSurfer? Don't you have an automated way of doing this (like a menu)? And how much does this cost?


http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40446

The latest patchstick creator linked in the link above is fully automated and is for Windows User and/or Mac.

XBMC and Boxee's forums are for people that are trying to hack their :apple:TV or have already done so. I suggest those forums for answering more specific questions about how to do things. The people there are a lot more knowedglable about this issue and can provide more detailed answers.

tom1971
Jul 1, 2009, 09:13 AM
Basically, I had the regular ATV menu, and then another menu that was titled "Files". From there I could go to "Movies" and store my movies on the ATV. The problem is, the hack seems complicated.

This is the "ATVfiles" plugin

kadeschs
Jul 1, 2009, 09:36 AM
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40446

The latest patchstick creator linked in the link above is fully automated and is for Windows User and/or Mac.

XBMC and Boxee's forums are for people that are trying to hack their :apple:TV or have already done so. I suggest those forums for answering more specific questions about how to do things. The people there are a lot more knowedglable about this issue and can provide more detailed answers.

Are the programs provided on this patchstick old versions?

Chipskip
Jul 1, 2009, 10:21 AM
Are the programs provided on this patchstick old versions?

The patchstick creater modifies the main :apple:TV menu to added them. You then go to the Download menu and download the latest launcher, XBMC & Boxee.

Hawkeye411
Jul 1, 2009, 10:28 AM
www.atvflash.com great software easy to do.Just restore and update to 2.4 then install atv flash.

+1 ... Really easy to install and they will provide updates for 1 year.
I don't use all the extra apps that come with ATVFlash. However, I was able to use it to install a 500GB external HD and it plays .avi files great and it still syncs with iTunes perfectly. Installing the external HD was a little difficult but you have an Apple TV with a large HD so you probably don't need to install an external HD.

You can look up instructions to hack your Apple TV yourself, but using ATVFlash (there may be similar software available) is very easy.

You could probably find a torrent for ATVFlash if you looked around.

Cheers.

TuckBodi
Jul 1, 2009, 04:46 PM
Due to legal requirements, fully automated scripts cannot be provided

So why does atvusb-creator w/ SoftwareMenu have an automated method for installing nitoTV, CouchSurfer, ATVFiles and etc.? I don't quite understand why you guys and ATVFlash can't do this but atvusb-creator can? Is it because that developer got the blessing from the plugin developers and you guys didn't?

tom1971
Jul 1, 2009, 05:24 PM
So why does atvusb-creator w/ SoftwareMenu have an automated method for installing nitoTV, CouchSurfer, ATVFiles and etc.? I don't quite understand why you guys and ATVFlash can't do this but atvusb-creator can? Is it because that developer got the blessing from the plugin developers and you guys didn't?

PM sent

rccballers
Jul 2, 2009, 01:15 AM
+1 ... Really easy to install and they will provide updates for 1 year.
I don't use all the extra apps that come with ATVFlash. However, I was able to use it to install a 500GB external HD and it plays .avi files great and it still syncs with iTunes perfectly. Installing the external HD was a little difficult but you have an Apple TV with a large HD so you probably don't need to install an external HD.

You can look up instructions to hack your Apple TV yourself, but using ATVFlash (there may be similar software available) is very easy.

You could probably find a torrent for ATVFlash if you looked around.

Cheers.
+1 Thank you so much! This is awesome!!!!

rccballers
Jul 2, 2009, 10:34 AM
Oh my gosh..this hack is better than I expected. After putting it on my AppleTV, I went to "movies" and ALL of my movies that I thought were deleted were still there! Even after the update!

jjxc90
Jul 3, 2009, 11:37 AM
So why does atvusb-creator w/ SoftwareMenu have an automated method for installing nitoTV, CouchSurfer, ATVFiles and etc.? I don't quite understand why you guys and ATVFlash can't do this but atvusb-creator can? Is it because that developer got the blessing from the plugin developers and you guys didn't?

ATV Flash includes everything right off the bat. No need to monkey around with Terminal.

Terminal = :(

jjxc90
Jul 3, 2009, 11:43 AM
Plus, using my Loop pointer on the appletv is pretty freakin sweet.

Hawkeye411
Jul 6, 2009, 12:24 PM
Oh my gosh..this hack is better than I expected. After putting it on my AppleTV, I went to "movies" and ALL of my movies that I thought were deleted were still there! Even after the update!

Great!!! Glad it worked! :D

TuckBodi
Jul 6, 2009, 12:53 PM
ATV Flash includes everything right off the bat. No need to monkey around with Terminal.

Terminal = :(

ATVFlash costs money (as does Patchstick.ca), ATVUSB-Creator does not. ATVUSB-Creator was made by the same developer who made the bootloader all Patchsticks (ATVFlash, Patchstick.ca, etc) use. ATVUSB-Creator is also blessed by all the ATV plugin dev's (XBMC, Boxee, nitoTV, CouchSurfer, Sapphire, ATVFiles, etc.) as well.

ATVUSB-Creator installs the Launcher for XBMC and Boxee as well as SoftwareMenu for the plugin's. And in it's Settings you can also toggle on/off the ATV Update Checker.

Creating the Patchstick (Mac & Win) is all done via a GUI and using the software is also via a GUI, no terminal required.

Word. No brainer.

Link: ATVUSB-Creator (http://code.google.com/p/atvusb-creator/)

kadeschs
Jul 6, 2009, 01:36 PM
ATVFlash costs money (as does Patchstick.ca), ATVUSB-Creator does not. ATVUSB-Creator was made by the same developer who made the bootloader all Patchsticks (ATVFlash, Patchstick.ca, etc) use. ATVUSB-Creator is also blessed by all the ATV plugin dev's (XBMC, Boxee, nitoTV, CouchSurfer, Sapphire, ATVFiles, etc.) as well.

ATVUSB-Creator installs the Launcher for XBMC and Boxee as well as SoftwareMenu for the plugin's. And in it's Settings you can also toggle on/off the ATV Update Checker.

Creating the Patchstick (Mac & Win) is all done via a GUI and using the software is also via a GUI, no terminal required.

Word. No brainer.

Link: ATVUSB-Creator (http://code.google.com/p/atvusb-creator/)

This is what I use. The software can be kind of buggy, esp. if you choose to update Apple's firmware. It may require some monkeying around to get all things running smoothly. However, it is free, and with a little patience, generally works fairly well.