iPhone 3.0 Parental Controls Now Allows for Explicit Content on App Store [Archive]

MacRumors

Jun 25, 2009, 12:41 AM

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We reported (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/04/iphone-3-0s-parental-controls-to-loosen-app-store-restrictions/) back in May that Apple might loosen the App Store content restrictions once the iPhone 3.0 software became available. iPhone 3.0 offers parental controls which allows you to set what level of content is permissible in your iPhone's Movies, TV Shows, Music and Apps.

Macenstein playfully reports (http://macenstein.com/default/archives/4693) "And then there was porn" pointing out Hottest Girls (http://appshopper.com/lifestyle/hottest-girls) as the first iPhone App to have nudity. “We uploaded nude topless pics today. This is the first app to have nudity,” writes Hottest Girls’ developer Allen Leung.The App does carry a 17+ Rating for "Frequent/Intense Sexual Content or Nudity" and "Frequent/Intense Mature/Suggestive Themes".

Parental restrictions can be turned on in Settings -> General -> Restrictions in your iPhone. If an App falls outside of the allowed rating they will simply disappear of your homepage. Once you turn the restrictions off again, the affected apps reappear. This system would have avoided the issue (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/04/nins-trent-reznor-speaks-out-on-apples-app-store-rejection-policies/) with NiN's app rejection in May. NiN's app was eventually accepted.

Article Link: iPhone 3.0 Parental Controls Now Allows for Explicit Content on App Store (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/25/iphone-3-0-parental-controls-now-allows-for-explicit-content-on-app-store/)

hefeglass

Jun 25, 2009, 12:45 AM

YES...pocket girlfriend!!11133`!

...i feel like i should post that this was sarcasm...for those of you without a sarcasm detector

trunksu

Jun 25, 2009, 12:45 AM

the big question is how many parents are actually aware

1. there are parental controls
2. that there is pr0n at the app store

i'm guessing majority don't have a clue about it :(

Pugpuppydude

Jun 25, 2009, 12:47 AM

Ewww... This will be gross.

"iPorn takes the world by the millions!"

Telp

Jun 25, 2009, 12:56 AM

WHAT?!?! I HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS?! :rolleyes:

Aldaris

Jun 25, 2009, 12:57 AM

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

Downloading now ;)

Telp

Jun 25, 2009, 12:58 AM

arn

Jun 25, 2009, 12:59 AM

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

Downloading now ;)

Oh... I should warn people. It's not a great app. Just flips through various images that I'm pretty sure they don't have the rights to. But the above report is accurate. :)

arn

macfan881

Jun 25, 2009, 12:59 AM

Ewww... This will be gross.

"iPorn takes the world by the millions!"

i still think apple will take a strong stance against porn but i think this will be good for apps like southpark and other stuff

or not ...

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:05 AM

I wonder if the App icon says "Porn" on it, or whether it says "Notepad" or something to disguise it. I don't think many people would want an App where the icon says "Hardcore Sex" on their homepage. Maybe it should have a security code in the App also (like Safe Note does). I HOPE Apple is creating a separate section in the App store, titled "adult" and that iTunes can disable that section with parental controls. I'm sure there is a huge demand (no one is going to admit it) for real, quality porn on the iPhone (instead of the crap that is in the App store right now), but I think EVERYONE is going to want it to be hidden on their phones.

Heck, I think there would already be a HUGE market right now for an App that has a hidden photo album, porn or not or just from your camera, that is password protected (like Safe Note). In fact, the "photos" App that comes on the iPhone should allow a separate, password-protected folder, where the user can drag and drop photos from the normal camera folder into it.

Pugpuppydude

Jun 25, 2009, 01:11 AM

the big question is how many parents are actually aware

1. there are parental controls
2. that there is pr0n at the app store

i'm guessing majority don't have a clue about it :(

So true. Alot of parents will really have no idea about this.. Unless this hits the news (which I'm guessing it will) as the iPhone/ iPod touch being a mobile porn device. This could hurt the image of the iPhone alot.

fleshman03

Jun 25, 2009, 01:13 AM

WHAT?!?! I HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS?! :rolleyes:

Who pays for porn?

Safari is good enough for me...

Although flash would be nice..........

Michael Belisle

Jun 25, 2009, 01:13 AM

everettmarshall

Jun 25, 2009, 01:14 AM

...I HOPE Apple is creating a separate section in the App store, titled "adult" and that iTunes can disable that section with parental controls.

If apple has an "adult" section of anything, they will do great damage to themselves. No one will be attracted to Apple products if they have adult titles, but many will be repelled.

And porn apps for sale mean that Apple IS in the porn business to the tune of a 30% take.

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:15 AM

BLACKBERRY DOESN'T HAVE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahaha! :D

Akira1980

Jun 25, 2009, 01:16 AM

gigidey

Jun 25, 2009, 01:16 AM

That South Park app better get in. If not, Apple is being really inconsistent.

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:17 AM

So true. Alot of parents will really have no idea about this.. Unless this hits the news (which I'm guessing it will) as the iPhone/ iPod touch being a mobile porn device. This could hurt the image of the iPhone alot.

I'm sure most parents and television newscasters already realize that anyone can use the Safari browser to access adult content.

Yeah, 17+ programs should probably be hidden in the store by default.

I agree.

If apple has an "adult" section of anything, they will do great damage to themselves. No one will be attracted to Apple products if they have adult titles, but many will be repelled.

And porn apps for sale mean that Apple IS in the porn business to the tune of a 30% take.

I see what you are saying. I agree. I suppose they should just add parental controls to iTunes but not create a separate section. That makes sense. My ideal scenario would be that Apple ban porn sales but instead create a separate password-protected photo/image folder on the iPhone and allow users to load the content they choose from their own computers or camera. This would allow them to ban porn but not have people cry "censorship" because they can say "we gave you a folder. you can put whatever you want in it."

mrkgoo

Jun 25, 2009, 01:18 AM

If apple has an "adult" section of anything, they will do great damage to themselves. No one will be attracted to Apple products if they have adult titles, but many will be repelled.

And porn apps for sale mean that Apple IS in the porn business to the tune of a 30% take.

But aren't there like 17+ erotic audiobooks on the iTunes Music Store?

I agree that it's kind of damaging to their so-called 'image', but it really depends on how hardcore they allow. I doubt they will actually approve hardcore. Who knows, perhaps this app kinda slipped through.

If they do allow more than just topless (well, actually, even just topless), you can bet sales will go through the roof. It's game over for the competitors.

Furthermore, unless the developer has the right to 'sell' the images, it could get taken down by copyright infringement.

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:24 AM

But aren't there like 17+ erotic audiobooks on the iTunes Music Store?

I agree that it's kind of damaging to their so-called 'image', but it really depends on how hardcore they allow. I doubt they will actually approve hardcore. Who knows, perhaps this app kinda slipped through.

If they do allow more than just topless (well, actually, even just topless), you can bet sales will go through the roof. It's game over for the competitors.

I disagree. There is no way in hell that I would want an App on my phone called "Hot Girls" for my boss or mother to find. Nope! It would have to be something hidden on my phone before I would spend a single penny on it.

ltldrummerboy

Jun 25, 2009, 01:27 AM

I wonder what this will do for Apple's image. I know they'll make money.

Akira1980

Jun 25, 2009, 01:28 AM

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:30 AM

iPhone is not just a phone anymore. It is a platform to deliver media. (A small computer) And from your definition, every single computer company is in porn business.

True. Whether people admit it or not, it is true.
Ever since Safari was added to a phone, the phone became a link to the internet - and the internet is essentially EVERYTHING.

nagromme

Jun 25, 2009, 01:31 AM

I disagree. There is no way in hell that I would want an App on my phone called "Hot Girls" for my boss or mother to find. Nope! It would have to be something hidden on my phone before I would spend a single penny on it.

Well... if you must...

Hiding is possible. Fill your device with 180 apps (the max visible including dock) and then add more--they won't show up because they're off the last page. You can pull them up only via spotlight search (or by deleting other apps to make room for them to come into view). There's also the slight chance they may toss something into Settings.

Anyway, it's interesting to see this enormous App Store experiment evolve.

MacDaddy901

Jun 25, 2009, 01:32 AM

Bring on the jiggly boobs apps!

mrkgoo

Jun 25, 2009, 01:34 AM

I disagree. There is no way in hell that I would want an App on my phone called "Hot Girls" for my boss or mother to find. Nope! It would have to be something hidden on my phone before I would spend a single penny on it.

Not everyone has their boss or mother looking over their shoulder at their phone. And stuff like this is actually pretty tame. It's not actually THAT shameful to have on your phone (admittedly, I wouldn't do it).

Besides, there is a way to have it hidden - have more than eleven pages of apps when you install it.

everettmarshall

Jun 25, 2009, 01:36 AM

But aren't there like 17+ erotic audiobooks on the iTunes Music Store?

Hmmmm. You're right about audio books and songs have obviously had explicit ratings in iTunes as long as I remember.

There are actually several "bikini" apps in the store already but no porn in the generally accepted definition - yet.

I really hope Apple doesn't create a brown wrapper section because porn is like polka...there are only about 15 people who buy it - but they buy ALL of it!

(And they never leave the house.)

NinjaHERO

Jun 25, 2009, 01:36 AM

Well you could always watch the P Hub for free on the Iphone, but I do approve of the adult apps. Not sure I can see myself buying one, but as a business model it makes sense for apple to have the option.

NewSc2

Jun 25, 2009, 01:38 AM

You want porn on your iPhone? Google it... there are probably dozens of iPhone-optimized sites.

Although I daresay porn apps will probably be fairly lucrative...

everettmarshall

Jun 25, 2009, 01:40 AM

iPhone is not just a phone anymore. It is a platform to deliver media. (A small computer) And from your definition, every single computer company is in porn business.

Yes it is a delivery system for potentially ANY digital content, however the computer isn't IN the porn business any more that the credit card you use to buy it is in the business.

The company the DISTRIBUTES and PROFITS is in the business.

MrSmith

Jun 25, 2009, 01:44 AM

And the sale of iPhone/iPod Touch will go through the roof. LOL
In America they dive...

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:47 AM

I really hope Apple doesn't create a brown wrapper section because porn is like polka...there are only about 15 people who buy it - but they buy ALL of it!

(And they never leave the house.)

But now with the iPhone they can leave the house! :D

(that was supposed to be funny)

I seriously think Apple should ban porn from the App Store, and simply say "you have Safari, if you want adult content." .... and give us a hidden photo album in the Photos App.

ziggyonice

Jun 25, 2009, 01:56 AM

It's about time. Not necessarily for the porn, but just for the fact that this will hopefully loosen restrictions on what apps can and cannot be accepted.

kockgunner

Jun 25, 2009, 02:05 AM

iPhone is not just a phone anymore. It is a platform to deliver media. (A small computer) And from your definition, every single computer company is in porn business.

But the fact that the app comes from the App Store--an Apple-owned entity--means if there are any porn apps, it will give the image that Apple is condoning such apps. This is not a good image for Apple especially given the ad campaigns they have done for the App Store as a fun store with many useful apps and games. Most parents are still not savvy enough to set up parental controls.

"Want to be aroused? There's an app for that" doesn't sound too good.

puffnstuff

Jun 25, 2009, 02:10 AM

Coming soon for the iPhone and iPod Touch "Doki Doki Majo Shinpan 2 Duo"

:cool:

Master Atrus

Jun 25, 2009, 02:10 AM

GrannySmith_G5

Jun 25, 2009, 02:16 AM

Nudity on the iPhone? Sex on the iPhone? Boy I hope this is locked deep in the bowels of the OS so Little Billy from Wisconsin doesn't accidentally stumble upon it, and gasp - - - maybe even masturbate to it! Could you imagine! The life he would inevitably lead after being exposed to such hormonal filth at such a young age. It almost makes me sick to think that everyone on this planet is the product of this grown up thing we call sex.

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 02:19 AM

Tussen69

Jun 25, 2009, 02:22 AM

The Rules of the Limitations that Apple stated in the Apple March 6 Event of 2008 still applies !

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/

Look at 01:07:50 and you se the limitations that is

NO that has/intruding on Porn, Mallicius, Illegal, Privacy or Bandwith hog.

This kind of App will never be approved or if they slip true they will be removed/deleted ...

This are good limitations and nothing that will change .

The parental control is a god thing!

GrannySmith_G5

Jun 25, 2009, 02:23 AM

So here is my two cents ... I don't have a problem with nudity or whatever, but I do have a problem if I start looking at the top 25 paid aps and 20 of them a adult related.

If Apple wants to allow this, fine, whatever, but it needs to be in its own section and not be part of the "featured" or "top 25 / 50s"

Obviously it won't be. Could you imagine if it was? Probably not going to happen. The chances of seeing the top 50 iphone apps all being something along the lines of "iPublicBoobies" seems a bit weird. No? So, yeah, probably not gonna happen.

tweaks

Jun 25, 2009, 02:27 AM

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BLACKBERRY DOESN'T HAVE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahaha! :D

It's why I don't have a blackberry.

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 02:36 AM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

It's why I don't have a blackberry.

iPorn, now with Enterprise corporate Exchange support ... AND PUSH NOTIFICATIONS!!! :D

(wait! The "push notifications" brings a bitter reminiscent reminder of those uncontrollable spam pop-up windows trying to sell you more)

know-it-all5

Jun 25, 2009, 02:41 AM

I think we can all agree that this isn't porn, and thus doesn't conflict with Apple's new terms. So there is a little nudity in the app store... There is nudity and sexuality in the R rated movies on iTunes. I don't see any difference. Expect to see many more apps with Playboy level nudity if this doesn't get taken down. These apps will be golden, just watch.

Now, if apple starts allowing graphic pornography (ie. actual sex) on the App Store, that would shock me. It doesn't "bother" me personally, but I know that would anger a lot of people. That would probably be a dumb move on Apple's part... Yes they'd make money, but they would also get a ton of angry letters.

batchtaster

Jun 25, 2009, 03:08 AM

It needs to be pointed out that app developers nominate their own rating level when the app is published, not Apple. This relies on developers being responsible and honest about what their app is. The rating is incorporated into the signature of the app.

If people don't do the right thing Apple will no doubt call the experiment a failure, scrap it, and revert to only allowing PG apps.

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 03:12 AM

I think we can all agree that this isn't porn, and thus doesn't conflict with Apple's new terms. So there is a little nudity in the app store... There is nudity and sexuality in the R rated movies on iTunes. I don't see any difference. ...
Now, if apple starts allowing graphic pornography (ie. actual sex) on the App Store, that would shock me.

I sure hope you are right. :)

mc3s

Jun 25, 2009, 04:40 AM

If they allowed porn apps in the app store they would take in a windfall of cash. Plain and simple, like every other outlet for porn. It's a multi-billion dollar industry for a reason. Is it a good idea? Probably not. Will they they ever do it? No.

DMann

Jun 25, 2009, 04:55 AM

iPorn, now with Enterprise corporate Exchange support ... AND PUSH NOTIFICATIONS!!! :D

(wait! The "push notifications" brings a bitter reminiscent reminder of those uncontrollable spam pop-up windows trying to sell you more)

This is why we need both PUSH and PULL notifications, to keep things flowing, as well as to reduce the frequency of "pop-up" windows.

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 05:38 AM

Gizmodo reports that the App Store also approved some type of "vibrator app" :confused:

http://gizmodo.com/5302365/first-apple+approved-iphone-porn-app?skyline=true&s=i

SolRayz

Jun 25, 2009, 06:13 AM

Bring on Howard on the Sirius app for the love of god.....:rolleyes:

twoodcc

Jun 25, 2009, 07:03 AM

i just hope the app store doesn't get totally flooded with these type of apps though

rockosmodurnlif

Jun 25, 2009, 07:21 AM

Topless women isn't porn.

Does this mean the Craigslist apps won't have to use Safari for the "encounters" section anymore?

Gizmodo reports that the App Store also approved some type of "vibrator app" :confused:

http://gizmodo.com/5302365/first-apple+approved-iphone-porn-app?skyline=true&s=i
"Massager" apps (http://appshopper.com/search/?search=massager) have been available for a long time.

Saladinos

Jun 25, 2009, 07:28 AM

This is bad news. I do hope they're hidden be default:

- The quality of apps in the AppStore is bad enough. I have to go through lots of "iPee" and "iFart" apps to find anything good. This will make it worse.
- As a developer, I'm going to be competing for visibility against porn apps, which really isn't fair. Part of the greatness of the AppStore is that it's a level playing field for independent developers against large businesses.
- Parents don't want their children to be able to access this stuff by default. I wouldn't either. Perfectly understandable objections and a perfectly reasonable solution.

DELLsFan

Jun 25, 2009, 07:29 AM

Saladinos

Jun 25, 2009, 07:53 AM

Here's a suggestion. If you don't like nudity or porn, don't buy apps that may offend your sensibilities. Here's another one: Don't buy your minor child an iPhone or iPod touch unless you know how the Parental Controls work and have spoken candidly with him/her about iTunes, adult content, and your sensibilities.

I think the iPhone/iPod touch are privileges children should earn, not exploit. The buck really stops with you as the parent/guardian - not them - and certainly not Apple. Raise your own damned child and let others raise theirs without passing judgment or the buck to technology.

Apple would be wise to set and tune the parental control technology accordingly, and consumers can take it from there. Today, American culture is inundated with erectile dysfunction and male enhancement products on TV. Movie ratings don't provide any sort of insulation or controls to a minor child if the adults are attending R-movies with the child. TV Sitcoms and "reality shows" discuss sexuality and preferences openly. Love-making "scenes" have evolved almost to the point of Cinemax during prime time. And yet, a handful of Puritans are upset over nudity on an iPhone or iPod touch? :rolleyes: Give me a break.

Typical party-line argument.

Not all parents (in fact a minority of parents) are up to the technological challenges of being a parent. Kids today know much more about technology than their parents, and their parents are likely to buy them a device without knowing about the types of content offered or availability of parental controls, much less how to set them.

It's certainly not Apple's fault, but they do have some responsibility to make sure their platform is family-friendly, and anything else is an opt-in rather than opt-out scenario. The blame may stop at the parents, but it goes through a lot of stations to get there.

Parental controls either need to be heavily advertised (as others here have mentioned) or enabled by default, which is the cheapest and most effective way to deal with this.

diamond.g

Jun 25, 2009, 07:56 AM

Now, if apple starts allowing graphic pornography (ie. actual sex) on the App Store, that would shock me. It doesn't "bother" me personally, but I know that would anger a lot of people. That would probably be a dumb move on Apple's part... Yes they'd make money, but they would also get a ton of angry letters.

Well, they do have Weeds and TrueBlood in iTunes. Those shows have shown people having sex. :confused:

edesignuk

Jun 25, 2009, 07:57 AM

This news is highly stimulating.

tbealmear

Jun 25, 2009, 08:08 AM

I am happy for this. Not for the porn...ok maybe for the porn, BUT for the reason that we shouldn't really be seeing Apple denying apps to the store because of their content. It was really becoming an issue when Apple was telling us what we could see/do with our phone. This will make it to where we can choose what to download and what not too. Yay! :D

Bentov

Jun 25, 2009, 08:14 AM

Here come the macrumors prudes....

It's ok to have iterminator, igun this, igun that; imob, ivampire, ikill all, those are good for kids :) We ALL know that boobies are the real evil in the world and jiggly bobbies are the devil. :rolleyes:

Guess what people, apple wants to make money. If apples supports adult apps, will that make you not want to buy a 17" macrbook pro? I didn't think so. The same goes for money from adult apps. Apple just wants our money.

So they will have a have an update to itunes, make you click "yes" 12 times; then make you give a kidney if you want to change your mind. Until we see iAnal with accelerometer controlled thrusting and realistic iMoaning, I think we are OK.

bobbleheadbob

Jun 25, 2009, 08:18 AM

I don't want porn or nudity apps on my iPhone and hope that Apple keeps the lid on this. There are enough other places people can get this stuff if they want to.

The further they go down this road, the more it has the potential to diminish and devalue their corporate brand and public image....which could greatly impact their bottom line and stock value.

chaosconan

Jun 25, 2009, 08:24 AM

Does this mean we can download Porn movies and Porn TV shows?
And will we be able to watch porn on Apple TV?

I don't understand why they need to do this. I thought jailbreak phones were happy in providing that type of service.

If they really want to do this they should create another section in your profile where you can enable adult content. By default the establishment of your online account will not allow you to see that content. And non-registered payment methods won't allow you to see it either. But if you register your payment and turn on adult content then you should be able to search for it. Basically the limits should be placed on the account and not the security settings of your iphone. Implementing both would be good. But I think it should start at the producer and not the consumer well in this case the provider and not the consumer. Producers are those that make the content. Providers are those that distribute the contents and consumers are those that use the content which is us.

I can see ads from Microsoft.
"Beware iPhone and iPod Touch are no longer safe for Kids because iTunes is now a haven for Porn business"
Microsoft Zune might make a come back!!!

Foras

Jun 25, 2009, 08:30 AM

Imagine a iDildo app with an iDildo accessory for women. Your boyfriend sends a push notification and bam the accessory turns on. Now thats cybersex right there. ahahaha
Ok i know this is a disgusting idea but im just kinding, and trying too show all the iphone features in 3.0:p:p:p:p

toddngina

Jun 25, 2009, 08:36 AM

Great, so now the Top 25 will fill up with Porn apps. Wonderful, can't wait. Maybe they'll open a separate Porn store to keep it off the front page.

chaosconan

Jun 25, 2009, 08:37 AM

Great, so now the Top 25 will fill up with Porn apps. Wonderful, can't wait. Maybe they'll open a separate Porn store to keep it off the front page.

One can only hope!

TraceyS/FL

Jun 25, 2009, 08:41 AM

Great, so now the Top 25 will fill up with Porn apps. Wonderful, can't wait. Maybe they'll open a separate Porn store to keep it off the front page.

That is my concern....

I hope the iTunes ratings come into play on that side - my kids all like to browse the store to find Apps for grandpa to buy (and i'm talking down to the 4yo).

chaosconan

Jun 25, 2009, 08:52 AM

kernkraft

Jun 25, 2009, 08:57 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a great difference between nudity and porn.

Having said that, I haven't got an iPhone, so it wouldn't affect me. On the other hand, during the course of two years and a half, I purchased 6 Apple MacBooks and MacBook Airs. I wouldn't mind some porn on them in return for proper quality management. My white MacBook cracked several times, I returned three unibodies, mostly for misaligned keys, noisy HDDs and constant fan noise. My MacBook Air is being used for typing as my late-2008 2.4 GHz MacBook's screen is so poor. Shame about the overheating and the CPU whine on the Air. Frustratingly, now there is a new line, making my MB an overpriced prototype. So, I'd rather have some nudity or porn. And I would be willing to pay for it, despite the fact that only very desperate people don't find enough porn for free on the internet.

Chang.Seea

Jun 25, 2009, 09:26 AM

Thank god for 'Picture Safe' on the iPhone then.
I use it daily and it's saved me from being busted by hiding my Pron many times :D

Torajima

Jun 25, 2009, 09:49 AM

I think many of you are missing the point. This opens the door for developers to create games with mature content, aimed at teens and adults. Note that I don't mean "porn"...

Game developers can now include realistic violence, sexual innuendo, cursing, smoking, etc, without worrying about Apple refusing their app.

For those that don't get the SNES reference, Nintendo of America was notorious in those days for not allowing blood in their games, nor alcohol references, nor cleavage, etc.

sellitom

Jun 25, 2009, 09:56 AM

iPerverts rejoice!

Torajima

Jun 25, 2009, 09:58 AM

robanga

Jun 25, 2009, 10:48 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a great difference between nudity and porn.

You are of course correct. Nudity is not porn at all. A fair percentage of the people on many forums, not just this one, can not seem to accept or even acknowledge that.

Not sure why ...that would be an interesting study.

sellitom

Jun 25, 2009, 11:02 AM

You are of course correct. Nudity is not porn at all. A fair percentage of the people on many forums, not just this one, can not seem to accept or even acknowledge that.

Not sure why ...that would be an interesting study.

I worked in a photo lab for quite some time. If you and I are naked and we appear to be over 18 years old, and I put my finger on your forehead, that is pornography. It is a thin line.

everettmarshall

Jun 25, 2009, 11:07 AM

...If you and I are naked and we appear to be over 18 years old, and I put my finger on your forehead, that is pornography.

You are a sick, sick person! That is so perverted and disgusting. I have a friend who got busted in a sting buying some of that finger on the forehead porn. Yuk.:eek::D:D

diamond.g

Jun 25, 2009, 11:08 AM

I worked in a photo lab for quite some time. If you and I are naked and we appear to be over 18 years old, and I put my finger on your forehead, that is pornography. It is a thin line.

Wow, really? That is crazy.

bigmc6000

Jun 25, 2009, 12:15 PM

The app got pulled - can't access even the info page on my 3GS - haha!

EDIT: Nevermind - must have just been a bug...

Capoc

Jun 25, 2009, 12:22 PM

The app got pulled - can't access even the info page on my 3GS - haha!

EDIT: Nevermind - must have just been a bug...

App not available in the US store is what I get when searching for it directly.

teknishn

Jun 25, 2009, 12:48 PM

adammull

Jun 25, 2009, 01:00 PM

I hate the argument that kids are so technologically advanced over their parents. IMHO, that is the parents' fault. I am a father to two girls and there is no way in hell they know more about technology than I do. Teenagers might use different sayings and phrases on Facebook or Twitter, but there is nothing I feel overwhelmed or scared of. And bottom line, we are both on Facebook.

Why are parents okay with being inferior idiots?

bigmc6000

Jun 25, 2009, 01:00 PM

Yeah, Im showing app not available. I think this is sad. We have parental controls so for cripes sakes lets stop with the censorship. Its not that I need or want to pay for nekkid chicks on the iphone for me, its about ppl in this country being wound up tighter than a snare drum when it comes to the human body or sexuality..... and of course violence, destruction, and mayham are completely ok.

Eh well, this shouldn't be an app anyway - as many others have said just do a google image search and it's free and the pics are much better w/ no paper trail (if you're worried about that).

bigmc6000

Jun 25, 2009, 01:02 PM

I hate the argument that kids are so technologically advanced over their parents. IMHO, that is the parents' fault. I am a father to two girls and there is no way in hell they know more about technology than I do. Teenagers might use different sayings and phrases on Facebook or Twitter, but there is nothing I feel overwhelmed or scared of.

Why are parents okay with being inferior idiots?

I'd say it's more about being technologically dependent than being technologically knowledgeable. You'd probably do just fine a few days without twitter or facebook but your kids - they'd probably hate you for weeks...

Vercingetorix

Jun 25, 2009, 01:22 PM

Typical party-line argument.

Not all parents (in fact a minority of parents) are up to the technological challenges of being a parent. Kids today know much more about technology than their parents, and their parents are likely to buy them a device without knowing about the types of content offered or availability of parental controls, much less how to set them.

It's certainly not Apple's fault, but they do have some responsibility to make sure their platform is family-friendly, and anything else is an opt-in rather than opt-out scenario. The blame may stop at the parents, but it goes through a lot of stations to get there.

Parental controls either need to be heavily advertised (as others here have mentioned) or enabled by default, which is the cheapest and most effective way to deal with this.

Typical puritanical argument: "It's too hard/too confusing/too time-consuming for me to do my job as a parent, so $ENTITY needs to just keep everything I deem inappropriate away from everybody to make my job easier."

Why does Apple have any more responsibility to make sure their iPhone platform is "family-friendly" than their Mac platform? It's a computer. What users do with it is (or ought to be) their own business. And responsibility.

I have no problem with having parental controls enabled by default on the App Store, but for people to wet their pants about the possibility that Little Johnny might look up from his violent killing-field games long enough to catch a glimpse of a pair of boobs on a phone is ridiculous.

teknishn

Jun 25, 2009, 01:30 PM

Typical puritanical argument: "It's too hard/too confusing/too time-consuming for me to do my job as a parent, so $ENTITY needs to just keep everything I deem inappropriate away from everybody to make my job easier."

Why does Apple have any more responsibility to make sure their iPhone platform is "family-friendly" than their Mac platform? It's a computer. What users do with it is (or ought to be) their own business. And responsibility.

I have no problem with having parental controls enabled by default on the App Store, but for people to wet their pants about the possibility that Little Johnny might look up from his violent killing-field games long enough to catch a glimpse of a pair of boobs on a phone is ridiculous.

The part that really kills me is you can open mobile safari up on the iphone and pull up the most explicit material imaginable in seconds and for free already. So whats the point of rejecting these apps?

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:48 PM

Apple just wants our money.
So they will have a have an update to itunes, make you click "yes" 12 times; then make you give a kidney if you want to change your mind. Until we see iAnal with accelerometer controlled thrusting and realistic iMoaning, I think we are OK.

They should have a separate section of the App Store that is NOT included in the App Store by default, and to see this adult section of the App Store, you must sign up and pay an additional subscription fee $$$. They could call it "MobileMe Adult"

iphones4evry1

Jun 25, 2009, 01:51 PM

If they do a lot of countries are going to ban iTunes Store especially china and muslin countries. They really need to think about this. And what happens with the relationships such as with walt disney? Will it be terminated?

EXCELLENT POINT !!!!!!!! I wonder if Apple has thought about this yet. I'm guessing they have not.

iPhone Chicago

Jun 25, 2009, 01:55 PM

I agree that a separate app "section" would need to be added if those type of apps get more popular....I envision the iPhone App Store application to include some graphic curtains that you have to swipe to the side in order to get into the adult content section, just like they have at old school video stores.

diamond.g

Jun 25, 2009, 01:58 PM

The part that really kills me is you can open mobile safari up on the iphone and pull up the most explicit material imaginable in seconds and for free already. So whats the point of rejecting these apps?

I think it has to do with the perception. Apple approves everything in the app store. They do not do that for Safari. So if there is nudity/porn in the app store it would be like Apple condoning it.

Cousin Dirk

Jun 25, 2009, 02:02 PM

This is a good step for the App Store in the sense of allowing more "mature" apps because of the parental controls. Not sure about the choice of app though, I mean who will ever pay £1.19 for porn? That would be £1.19 more than I've ever spent on the stuff.

The point of this app, of course, is the same as the eBay, Facebook and Twitter apps. Yeah, you can access that via Safari, but it's so much more convenient to have an app that only pulls the data you want to see.

Vercingetorix

Jun 25, 2009, 02:26 PM

I think it has to do with the perception. Apple approves everything in the app store. They do not do that for Safari. So if there is nudity/porn in the app store it would be like Apple condoning it.

No doubt that's what their argument would be, but the problem is that you can already buy movies chock full of nudity in the iTunes Store. Refusing to sell some dumb little app that includes pictures of topless girls in the same online store where you can buy "Basic Instinct" is making a stupid and arbitrary distinction.

I don't get why this is so controversial. You allow any content that would garner you an R rating in a movie; you slap an 17+ rating on it; you have parental controls enabled by default in the App Store. You reject stuff that's blatantly pornographic, that you wouldn't find in an ordinary video store. The American cultural norms for this sort of thing see well established enough that this ought to be a no-brainer.

satcomer

Jun 25, 2009, 03:10 PM

everettmarshall

Jun 25, 2009, 03:25 PM

iPhones are assembled in China.

China is filtering Google results and accusing Google of "spreading pornography".

http://bit.ly/PyFko

Pulled from the story:

"We have found that the English version of google.com has spread lots of pornographic, lewd and vulgar content, which is in serious violation of Chinese laws and regulations," said foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang at a news briefing. He said authorities summoned Google representatives and told them to "remove the material immediately."

Will companies in China be allowed to assemble a product for Apple who will be distributing porn and profiting from it on the very product that China is assembling?

Torajima

Jun 25, 2009, 04:17 PM

Will companies in China be allowed to assemble a product for Apple who will be distributing porn and profiting from it on the very product that China is assembling?

You can download porn from any computer, and most computers are assembled in China.

I suspect China is filtering google because China is a communist country and wants to control the flow of information to it's populace. Banning lewd content is simply an excuse.

everettmarshall

Jun 25, 2009, 04:42 PM

You can download porn from any computer, and most computers are assembled in China.

But not all computer companies are selling (potentially) porn.

DMann

Jun 25, 2009, 04:46 PM

Until we see iAnal with accelerometer controlled thrusting and realistic iMoaning, I think we are OK. :D

Perhaps it would be less worrisome, to some, if the App Store were to designate a storefront or section specifically for adult material. This way, those searching through apps would not be subjected to any potentially offending ones appearing amongst their searches - just a thought.

MacFly123

Jun 25, 2009, 05:27 PM

i still think apple will take a strong stance against porn but i think this will be good for apps like southpark and other stuff

or not ...

I hope so! Can we have anything in this world that is not tainted with filth anymore??? :(

rdowns

Jun 25, 2009, 06:10 PM

Banned by Apple: 'Hottest Girls' Latest App to Get Rejected (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/AheadoftheCurve/story?id=7928576&page=1)

The tech community couldn't believe it when it appeared that Apple had approved a salacious iPhone application offering up photos of nude women.

"Hottest Girls," an iPhone application that shows photos of nude woman had been approved by Apple's App Store but is now not available in the U.S.
(ABC News Photo Illustration)
Macenstein, a blog on all things Apple, wrote, "Today, the iTunes app store became a man." The tech site CNET took another tack: "Apple goes topless," it declared.

But it looks as if Apple's affair with X-rated content wasn't meant to last.

Developer Allen Leung had proudly told Macenstein, "We uploaded nude topless pics today. This is the first app to have nudity."

Leunge may have made one boast too many. The application, "Hottest Girls," was available Wednesday to users of the iPhone and iPod Touch, but has since been pulled from the store. "Apple will not distribute applications that contain inappropriate content, such as pornography," Apple spokesman Tom Neumayr said. "The developer of this application added inappropriate content directly from their server after the application had been approved and distributed, and after the developer had subsequently been asked to remove some offensive content.

"This was a direct violation of the terms of the iPhone Developer Program. The application is no longer available on the App Store."

Macman1993

Jun 25, 2009, 06:16 PM

So wait if I am getting this right he had a page that linked to a gallery that was on his server and then after it got in he changed the pix in the gallery with porn dumbass for thinking apple would be ok with this. Good job apple.

puffnstuff

Jun 25, 2009, 06:25 PM

Seriously people need to get over the "think of the children" ********. Adults are the ones buying so what's the issue?

Personally I think this is great. I can't wait for GTA, manhunt, etc

Macman1993

Jun 25, 2009, 07:21 PM

I wasn't thinking of the children, they can see porn no matter what their parents do. But I think apple selling porn kills their image. When I think porn site I don't think high quality products and a great operating system I think tacky sleezy company.

I totally agree with you on some of the games. I don't want T games I want M if some people can't handle it thats their problem.

DELLsFan

Jun 25, 2009, 07:23 PM

Typical party-line argument...

Party had nothing to do with my "argument". Parents have responsibilities. As technology evolves, so must the parent. Can't / Won't keep up? Then you probably shouldn't buy an iPhone for little Johnny or let him "play" on your computer.

Typical puritanical argument: "It's too hard/too confusing/too time-consuming for me to do my job as a parent, so $ENTITY needs to just keep everything I deem inappropriate away from everybody to make my job easier."

Why does Apple have any more responsibility to make sure their iPhone platform is "family-friendly" than their Mac platform? It's a computer. What users do with it is (or ought to be) their own business. And responsibility.

I have no problem with having parental controls enabled by default on the App Store, but for people to wet their pants about the possibility that Little Johnny might look up from his violent killing-field games long enough to catch a glimpse of a pair of boobs on a phone is ridiculous.

I couldn't have said this any better.

casik

Jun 25, 2009, 08:10 PM

It is simple.

This shouldn't be an argument about porn, we all have our own viewpoints. The point that should be made is that it NEEDS to be disabled by default. Don't forget that the iPod uses iTunes and the App Store. There are plenty of kids out there who do not have an iPhone, but do have iPods. There is no reason that a 10 year old with an iPod Touch should be able to flick through the porn applications or nudity filled applications without the feature being enabled by an adult.

To all of you who think parents are "bad" or "uncaring" or "unfit" if they don't understand technology you can take that and well... ya. There are plenty of parents out there who are good parents even tho they do not know how to use the iTunes store or use an iPod or iPhone. It just means they have not been sucked into the technology inferno that we all love and enjoy lol.

For anyone who thinks they are a better parent for being on facebook or for knowing how to use an iPod, think again. Parenthood isn't what you know about technology, parenthood is about knowing your kid. If you have to use facebook to communicate with your kids bc they won't talk to your face, thats an issue. If you use facebook as an additional way to grow your relationship with your kids than good for you.

When this all comes down to it there is no argument about is porn right or wrong in the iTunes store, it is about how it is going to be presented and hopefully they do it right.

No visually explicit apps appearing in the stores top lists.

Same reason the porn rentals are in a back area at movie stores, or porn is covered up at convenience stores.

Vercingetorix

Jun 25, 2009, 08:30 PM

To all of you who think parents are "bad" or "uncaring" or "unfit" if they don't understand technology you can take that and well... ya. There are plenty of parents out there who are good parents even tho they do not know how to use the iTunes store or use an iPod or iPhone. It just means they have not been sucked into the technology inferno that we all love and enjoy lol.

If you don't understand technology and yet you just hand your kid a computer connected to the internet -- whether it's your desktop or a laptop or a smartphone -- without taking the time to figure out how it basically works and what he's doing with it, then you're a crappy parent. Period.

If you have a kid, you have to deal with technology now. It's a basic part of the job, like teaching them about sex or how to drive a car. If you don't want to become at least basically functional with technology, enough to know what your kid is up to, then you shouldn't have a kid in the 21st century. That's just the way it is.

casik

Jun 25, 2009, 08:39 PM

If you don't understand technology and yet you just hand your kid a computer connected to the internet -- whether it's your desktop or a laptop or a smartphone -- without taking the time to figure out how it basically works and what he's doing with it, then you're a crappy parent. Period.

If you have a kid, you have to deal with technology now. It's a basic part of the job, like teaching them about sex or how to drive a car. If you don't want to become at least basically functional with technology, enough to know what your kid is up to, then you shouldn't have a kid in the 21st century. That's just the way it is.

Did you know that some families only buy computers bc they are a nessecity almost? Lots of families actually sit around the table and play games and talk with eachother. Too many families waste their time away in front of facebook and in front of the computer. The real crime is how much time is wasted on the computer. Some parents like technology and some don't. I happen to be one of the ones who does like technology. Knowing about technology makes parenting easier, but it don't make you a bad parent if you don't.

My Inlaws don't know much about computers, or iPhones or iPods... but instead we sit around camp fires and TALK to eachother.

How many parents actually teach their kids about sex anyways... isn't that what teen pregnancy is for? Or wait... maybe that is to learn about abortion.

I am not excusing for the density of some parents who think that the world will be a perfect place for thier kids, I am just saying that your 35-40 year old parents who were brought up playing sports outside and working on cars are not even about to suspect that porn will be available through iTunes. EVEN IF THEY ARE TECH SAVY

To each thier own.... what would kids possibly need to be on a computer 6 hours a day for anyways?

Yes I'm a Dad.

Vercingetorix

Jun 25, 2009, 08:53 PM

Did you know that some families only buy computers bc they are a nessecity almost? Lots of families actually sit around the table and play games and talk with eachother. Too many families waste their time away in front of facebook and in front of the computer. The real crime is how much time is wasted on the computer. Some parents like technology and some don't. I happen to be one of the ones who does like technology. Knowing about technology makes parenting easier, but it don't make you a bad parent if you don't.

My Inlaws don't know much about computers, or iPhones or iPods... but instead we sit around camp fires and TALK to eachother.

How many parents actually teach their kids about sex anyways... isn't that what teen pregnancy is for? Or wait... maybe that is to learn about abortion.

I am not excusing for the density of some parents who think that the world will be a perfect place for thier kids, I am just saying that your 35-40 year old parents who were brought up playing sports outside and working on cars are not even about to suspect that porn will be available through iTunes. EVEN IF THEY ARE TECH SAVY

To each thier own.... what would kids possibly need to be on a computer 6 hours a day for anyways?

Yes I'm a Dad.

You don't have to like technology or know much about it. You just have to know enough of a minimal amount that you can sort of monitor what's going on and be able to engage with your kid about it. It's not optional. To act like a computer/smartphone/anything that plugs into the internet is a game console that you can just park your kids in front of is to abdicate your responsibility as a parent.

I'm a dad too.

casik

Jun 25, 2009, 09:16 PM

You don't have to like technology or know much about it. You just have to know enough of a minimal amount that you can sort of monitor what's going on and be able to engage with your kid about it. It's not optional. To act like a computer/smartphone/anything that plugs into the internet is a game console that you can just park your kids in front of is to abdicate your responsibility as a parent.

I'm a dad too.

Thats why you don't act like that... What i'm saying is that there are many parents who have no idea how to set a parental control, or how to create their own kids username with account restrictions. Especially on a PC lol. Or how to change their kids iPod Touch parental settings. Again it doesn't mean they are poor or bad parents. It means they have no idea those options are there. Macs make it a little easier though....

The point i'm trying to make is that most parents don't know they have the options to do these things. Especially on a iPod. Doesn't mean they are bad parents.

Vercingetorix

Jun 25, 2009, 11:19 PM

Thats why you don't act like that... What i'm saying is that there are many parents who have no idea how to set a parental control, or how to create their own kids username with account restrictions. Especially on a PC lol. Or how to change their kids iPod Touch parental settings. Again it doesn't mean they are poor or bad parents. It means they have no idea those options are there. Macs make it a little easier though....

The point i'm trying to make is that most parents don't know they have the options to do these things. Especially on a iPod. Doesn't mean they are bad parents.

Handing a child an internet-connected device that you don't understand well enough to monitor is bad parenting. Period. (Assuming that you care about things like porn, and who your kid might be talking to, and that sort of thing.) I don't see how ignorance is a reasonable excuse. You either figure out how to monitor what your kid is doing with the device or you don't give it to him to begin with.

I mean, parental controls on the App Store are the tiniest slice of the problem. It's going to take Junior about eight seconds to be happily surfing through all the porn he wants in Mobile Safari. Or is it Apple's responsibility to somehow figure out a way to build a nudity-proof web browser, too?

winterspan

Jun 26, 2009, 12:26 AM

So true. Alot of parents will really have no idea about this.. Unless this hits the news (which I'm guessing it will) as the iPhone/ iPod touch being a mobile porn device. This could hurt the image of the iPhone alot.

first of all, this is not porn. It displays topless woman.. Only in America, the land of Christian zealots would this be called porn. As to the issue, parents need to be involved in their childrens' lives. They cannot expect Apple and the government to raise their children.

Additionally, obviously there is extreme content available on the internet that is unhealthy for ANYONE, but "normal" sexual content shouldn't be a big deal. I was raised with an unfilitered internet connection, and looked at all kinds of porn with my friends, mostly as a joke. I didn't grow up into some weird deviant...

know-it-all5

Jun 26, 2009, 01:55 AM

Handing a child an internet-connected device that you don't understand well enough to monitor is bad parenting. Period. (Assuming that you care about things like porn, and who your kid might be talking to, and that sort of thing.) I don't see how ignorance is a reasonable excuse. You either figure out how to monitor what your kid is doing with the device or you don't give it to him to begin with.

I mean, parental controls on the App Store are the tiniest slice of the problem. It's going to take Junior about eight seconds to be happily surfing through all the porn he wants in Mobile Safari. Or is it Apple's responsibility to somehow figure out a way to build a nudity-proof web browser, too?

I completely agree with you.

Furthermore, i think a parent who knowingly (has an understanding of itunes and parental controls) lets their ten year old play violent video games or view sexually suggestive materials, is a better parent than one who doesn't want their kid to view anything "inappropriate," but has no idea how to use itunes, so their kid ends up viewing it anyway.
A good parent is not defined by what a parent approves of or doesn't approve of. A good parent is one that has enough involvement in their child's life, to help guide them in a direction that they find suitable. If they find Grand Theft Auto suitable, that is their business, as long as they took the time to understand the contents of the game, along with their child. Look, the bottom line is different kids should have different rules. It is the responsibility of the parents to know their child and be involved enough with what their child is up to.
IT IS NOT APPLE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PARENT. The only real responsibility of Apple, when it comes to mature content in itunes, is to give individuals a viable way to avoid or block said content. I don't know about you, but my Cable Television Provider (ATT UVERSE) has loads of hardcore porn on demand at the click of a few buttons... Does this mean that ATT is pro-porn, because they give their customers the option to purchase access to it? NO. If you don't want it, then dont go looking for it. As long as Apple doesn't have it "in-your-face" on the front page, it doesn't matter. I am a developer, and realize that some developers of mature material might argue, that not being allowed on the front pages of itunes, could lower sales... The reality is though, that when it comes to porn, if people want it, they will sure as h*ll find it. (let me also make it clear, that i dont consider this new app "Hottest Girls" or whatever its called, to be pornographic... but it is adult enough to be considered for "special" alternative placement in itunes, so that an 8 year old doesn't come across it as easily.)

iphones4evry1

Jun 26, 2009, 04:10 AM

You can download porn from any computer, and most computers are assembled in China.
I suspect China is filtering google because China is a communist country and wants to control the flow of information to it's populace. Banning lewd content is simply an excuse.

Apparently you haven't heard of "Green Dam," a software that the Chinese government is going to require computer manufacturers to install on all computers beginning next month. The software automatically blocks porn and political websites that the Chinese regime wants blocked. It's been all over the news, and the computer companies have gone strait to the U.S. Govt and complained. Now the U.S. Govt is getting involved, saying that this is a violation of World Trade Organization rules to order U.S. computer manufacturers to install a certain security software when software security companies compete for business and the consumer makes the choice.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2349289,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121

Torajima

Jun 26, 2009, 05:44 AM

first of all, this is not porn. It displays topless woman.. Only in America, the land of Christian zealots would this be called porn.

Oh, you can't just blame the religious right. The extreme left is anti-nudity too, as it supposedly "objectifies women".

mc3s

Jun 26, 2009, 07:26 AM

What happened:

Now with the new parental controls, explicit content can be added to the app store. It was already available in the music and video store. One app went from bikini clad women to topless women.

What some people think happened:

Pornography has started to take over the app store and it will be almost impossible to find anything else there. Also, will someone please think of the children?

Typical Macrumors.

celtikmind

Jun 26, 2009, 07:35 AM

Dan55304

Jun 26, 2009, 09:08 AM

It's so sad to see the iPhone refactored as the iPorn. Don't we get enough of this everywhere else? Now I get to see porn ads in my iTunes, thanks for nothing Apple.

vrillusions

Jun 26, 2009, 09:33 AM

wonder when the dating sim games will hit. They are insanely popular in Japan and can be quite hardcore and are essentially just slide shows although I've seen some that are a little animated or even full 3D models. The moment any of them come out sales in japan would skyrocket.

casik

Jun 26, 2009, 12:17 PM

So esentially everyone agrees that if a parent is not involved in the same technology the kid is, then they are a bad parent.

So the parent who blocks porn from a child is better than the parent who explains why they believe porn is wrong to the child and has no idea it is available from the App Store?

It will be a sad day when all children know is Parental Blocks and that once they are removed they can do whatever they want.

Being a parent isn't about knowing how to set a parental block, it is about knowing how to teach your kid right from wrong.

I must say I know many parents who do not know how to set parental blocks and know much better how to teach right and wrong, than parents who can set parental blocks.

Even if I take a look back at my own childhood... my friends I grew up with turned out a lot better if they were taught how to make the decision istead of being forced into a decision by a block.

Now don't get me wrong of course, I am not saying Parental Blocks are a bad thing. But if that is all that you are doing to prevent your kids from porn and such than shame on you.

I still stand in arguing that the Explicit apps should be blocked by default.