Mac OS X 10.3.4 Released

[MacRumors]

Now available via OS X Software Update:

10.3.4 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.3 "Panther" and is recommended for all users.

Key enhancements include:

- improved file sharing and directory services for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS), PPTP, and wireless networks
- improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
- improved disc burning and recording functionality
- iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync
- additional FireWire audio and USB device compatibility
- updated Address Book, Mail, Safari, Stickies, and QuickTime applications
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- previous standalone security updates


For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25764

[dbirider]

updating now 41 megs

[Frisco]

I always wondered why we couldn't connect our iPods via USB2. Now this frees up my firewire port!

[wrldwzrd89]

updating now 41 megs
I'm updating now too - I'm also seeing 41 MB as the size of the update.

[LaMerVipere]

Yay! Downloading now. :D

[leenoble]

Downloading now but I'll wait for you other schmu.. early adopters to give thorough feedback first.

I thought there was something about TWAIN drivers in the early notes for this update. I want my Microtek C60 to start working again without OS9. and no VueScan doesn't cut it for some reason.

[gandalf55]

Safari is fast as hell now... esp. bookmark menus dropping and rendering pages!

[cjc343]

running backup.... if no-one has any problems, I'll install after that...

[AirUncleP]

Finally a Stickies update. Thank goodness.

[henners]

[mactastic]

Cool, can't wait to get home and install. Hope it doesn't wipe my HD or anything! :p

[cr2sh]

I've been lacking updates for so long.. can't wait for my RoadRunner to be installed tomorrow so I can download this bad mofo.

All the updates on my powerbook tomorrow! Woot!

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Downloading...

Hope this fixes the bug where Finder chrashes when I trie to drag and drop more than a couple files from the Desktop to ...anywhere really, even other place at the Desktop...

[wildmac]

Just updated my new G5 which shipped with 10.3.2 with the combined updater to 10.3.4

[nsb3000]

Cool, can't wait to get home and install. Hope it doesn't wipe my HD or anything! :p

Ya, you never know with updates these days. I think I will wait a bit before installing to here more reports from other users.

[virividox]

downloading now :) yay

[nsb3000]

Downloading...

Hope this fixes the bug where Finder chrashes when I trie to drag and drop more than a couple files from the Desktop to ...anywhere really, even other place at the Desktop...

There are a lot of bugs in the finder. I'm hoping that file sharing is more stable.

[edesignuk]

Ya, you never know with updates these days. I think I will wait a bit before installing to here more reports from other users.
Exactly what I'm doing, ever since 10.2.8 was released causing all sorts of problems (or was it 10.2.7?), I'll let others go nuts and install first ;) :cool:

[reaper]

Sweet... new OS update! I think I'll make an evening of it. :p

- reaper

[The Tuck]

Arghh. It's downloading really slow. All you people need to get off for a few minutes!! (:p ) What is the new Safari version?

[edesignuk]

Hope this fixes the bug where Finder chrashes when I trie to drag and drop more than a couple files from the Desktop to ...anywhere really, even other place at the Desktop...
I thought it was just me! Thank god! At least I know it's not just my OS that is screwy :rolleyes:

[dgoss]

I reeeally hope that this clears up the problems with Powerbooks not reconnecting their Airports after sleep. This seems to be pretty widespread on machines with over 1GB RAM after the last Airport update... we'll see!

d.

[nsb3000]

running backup.... if no-one has any problems, I'll install after that...

If only I had a way to do a easy backup.

[The Ancients]

It restarted, and a quick test of all applications listed as updated seem to indicate no issues. Safari is noticeably faster though, so maybe Dave and his team introduced the changes Dave mentioned in his blog (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/).

[ingenious]

Safari is fast as hell now... esp. bookmark menus dropping and rendering pages!


What's the new version number for Safari? I just graduated yesterday, so now I can't use my computer 'til the fall when I go back..... unless I get to take it home some over the summer ;) ! Don't want a "security hole" on the network now do we? :D

[macridah]

going to back up my home dir and then install this bad boy.

Any problems yet anyone?

[gandalf55]

Safari @ 1.2.2 (v125.7)

[nsb3000]

Now available via OS X Software Update:

10.3.4 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.3 "Panther" and is recommended for all users.

Key enhancements include:

improved file sharing and directory services for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS), PPTP, and wireless networks
improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
improved disc burning and recording functionality
iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync
additional FireWire audio and USB device compatibility
updated Address Book, Mail, Safari, Stickies, and QuickTime applications
improved compatibility for third party applications
previous standalone security updates


For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25764

I wonder if is this includes any more security updates for the safari/help vulnerability.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

There are a lot of bugs in the finder. I'm hoping that file sharing is more stable.

Yeah I know, but the Drag'n'drop-bug is the only one that really annoys me... ;)

Optimizing 89% complete...

[cjc343]

If only I had a way to do a easy backup.

Get an external HD with 20 more GB of space then your HD. Then use Carbon Copy Cloner or PsynchX to backup your HD.

[NNO-Stephen]

Safari is 1.2.2 (v125.7)

it does seem faster. OS still snappy as ever and no issues for me (Quicksilver 867Mhz)

:)

System profiler seems a lot faster, other apps seem about the same or a tad faster.

[robotrenegade]

I hope this fixes the problems I been having with my G5 and dual displays.

[macridah]

what are the updates in address book and mail? Is it a performance increase or new functionality?

[aafuss1]

Now available via OS X Software Update:

10.3.4 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.3 "Panther" and is recommended for all users.

Key enhancements include:

- improved file sharing and directory services for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS), PPTP, and wireless networks
- improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
- improved disc burning and recording functionality
- iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync
- additional FireWire audio and USB device compatibility
- updated Address Book, Mail, Safari, Stickies, and QuickTime applications
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- previous standalone security updates


For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25764
Nice to see updated display drivers.

[LaMerVipere]

Is it just me or do the colours of Safari (the brushed metal) and the aqua blue colour that appears when you browse a drop down menu or something, suddenly seem different?

[jxyama]

System profiler seems a lot faster, other apps seem about the same or a tad faster.

that's probably because of optimizations, not because of 10.3.4...

[Doctor Q]

From the Knowledge Base, we see what Apple changed:

Mail and Address Book

Addresses a Mail issue in which a long address (URL) in a Mac OS X Panther Mail message may not open in your Web browser when you click it. Original problem: In some cases, a long URL contained in a Mail message that wraps across more than one line may not work when you click it. Your Web browser may say the page cannot be found or display a "404" alert.

Resolves an issue in which a third-party "Times RO" font could cause Mail, Safari, or other applications quit unexpectedly. Original problem: Mail might unexpectedly quit if Times RO fonts are installed. Some HP printer software may install this font.

Address Book can now import more than one email address per contact from an LDIF export file.

You can now send SMS messages longer than 68 characters via the Mac OS X v10.3 (Swedish) Address Book. Original problem: When you use Address Book to send an SMS via a Bluetooth mobile phone, you can type more than sixty eight characters, but once you type the sixty ninth or greater, the message's Send button is dimmed (or "grayed out").

A Mail message will now retain its status (read or unread, flagged or not flagged, and so forth) when you copy and paste it within Mail.

Attached .zip files can now be saved from Mail without automatically being decompressed.

Networking and .Mac

Resolves an issue in which automated (scheduled) syncing between iSync and .Mac would sometimes not work as expected.

Improves function when connecting to a TLS-authenticated wireless network; addresses a "error -1001" issue that could occur when more than one client certificate is stored in Keychain.

Addresses an issue that could prevent you from using VPN over a PPTP connection.

Addresses an issue in which, in some cases after a scheduled backup was missed, the .Mac Backup application opened twice.

iPod and peripheral devices

iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync.

Improves compatibility with mass storage devices, SCSI or RAID PCI cards, and USB and FireWire devices, when using Mac OS X v10.3.3. Original problem: Some third-party devices might not work: External or internal SCSI devices may not be recognized; USB or FireWire devices with file systems may not mount; If the startup volume is on a SCSI drive, the computer may stop responding ("hang") during startup.

Addresses a kernel panic that may occur when capturing from some Canon cameras in ESP mode.

Addresses a situation in which video frames may be missed when digital video is being captured from a FireWire camera connected to a PowerBook.

Dialog windows for incoming phone calls and SMS messages for a paired Bluetooth phone now appear in the foreground.

Finder

Addresses an issue in which a writable disc might not appear in the Finder after you burn it.

Improves reliability when selecting several files at a time in Finder at the same time Finder is previewing a movie or MP3 file.

You can now use more kinds of disk image volumes when the Mac OS X Panther language is set to Devanagari (Hindi, Marati, Nepali, or Sanskrit language), Gujarati, or Gurmukhi (Panjabi).

Addresses an issue in which some screen captures (or grabs) could unexpectedly contain a gray area.

Printing and faxing

With this update, you can now print shadowed text from Preview to HP DeskJet 970 or 990 printer without a black outline appearing around the text.

A PDF file's shadowed graphics will now print as expected with a PostScript printer.

Improves function when receiving a multiple-page fax.

Other

Includes recent Mac OS X Security Updates (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61798).

Improves compatibility when receiving an email with a very large PDF file attached in Microsoft Entourage.

Preview will no longer ask for a password when opening a PDF file that hasn't been password-protected. Original problem: Preview might ask for a password even if the document isn't password-protected. This message appears: "This PDF is password protected. Without a password, some operations with this document will be restricted. Operations allowed are listed with a check mark next to them below. {list of options} To enable more operations, enter a password."

Stickies no longer writes to the hard drive every five minutes, even when the computer is idle.

Addresses an issue in which scheduled items, such as automated backups or Software Update checks, may not work if the computer is asleep at the scheduled time. With this update, the schedule will run once the computer wakes from sleep.

Resolves an issue in which an eMacs' display resolution could be unexpectedly large and its geometry is off-center (only the upper left portion appears), after waking from sleep.

Addresses an issue that could prevent an update from installing if some .plist files (ones related to an application that would be installed) were damaged.

Safari will now be able to download a Hotmail email attachment. Original problem: When you try to download an attachment from Hotmail, you are asked to sign in again.

Addresses a DVD Player issue in which an "Operation not permitted {symbol like a 0}" alert could appear, and the player could unexpectedly quit.

Resolves an issue that could prevent users with network home directories from adding fonts to a Font Book collections.

Improves OpenGL by adding support for OpenGL Vertex Buffer and Replaceable OpenGL entry points.

[amnesiac1984]

Yeah I know, but the Drag'n'drop-bug is the only one that really annoys me... ;)

Optimizing 89% complete...

hey mate, I don't think this is a bug, i think its just you, I never have problems with the finder and drag and drop. You might need to fix your system.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Up and running 10.3.4 :)

Finder seems a bit snappier... :)

Safari has no (obvious) new features. They really need to add some more control in managing different kinds of plug-ins and other security settings.

Has anybody tried if Safari handles Java content better...?

[sickracer2015]

what build is 10.3.4?

[MacSlut]

Get an external HD with 20 more GB of space then your HD. Then use Carbon Copy Cloner or PsynchX to backup your HD.

Why does it have to have more storage at all? I've been cloning my 120GB HDs for some time now, every once in a while doing a clean wipe and clone and then switching over to the other drive (to reduce fragmentation).

I use Apple's free Disk Utility to do a clean wipe and clone, and use Deja Vu (comes free with Toast) to do scheuled synchs.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

hey mate, I don't think this is a bug, i think its just you, I never have problems with the finder and drag and drop. You might need to fix your system.

I've heard others complaint about similar issues. I think it only happened when moving several (larger) files. And, as with all bugs, not every time or even under similar circumstances (that I could see, anyway)...

I tried with some files I had on my Desktop now after restarting with 10.3.4 and, as I said in a post over: Now it seems just fine... :)

Edit: Quote from Knowledge Base:
Improves reliability when selecting several files at a time in Finder at the same time Finder is previewing a movie or MP3 file.

The "several files" is often larger QT movie files... ;)

[Rower_CPU]

Server update is out, too:
- improved reliability and compatibility of NFS file services and network automounts
- enhanced Server Admin and Network Image Utility applications
- improved Open Directory scalability and replication reliability, Active Directory integration
- additional support for FireWire and USB devices
- improved compatibility for third party applications and devices
- previous standalone security updates

[Windowlicker]

well if something came to me suddenly then this did. nice to see we can't foretell everything ;) can't wait to get my hands on a faster (what?? was that possible) safari..

[mabino]

I wonder if is this includes any more security updates for the safari/help vulnerability.

Maybe half-fixed? I couldn't quite tell. It seems that the SSH URI handler code execution (http://www.insecure.ws/article.php?story=200405222251133) (link to writeup and example exploit) doesn't work anymore but Unsanity's benign exploit examples linked from their whitepaper (http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/pa/whitepaper/) still work.

[Eprom]

:mad:

Installed 10.3.4 on my Ti Powerbook 867.
Now my fan keeps running like mad.
Restarted a few times and did permission check.

Still NO GOOD..

Going back to 10.3.3

[reckless_0001]

ohh cool you can open attachments in Hotmail using Safari...

[7on]

Well, the fans might be going mad because you just did a bunch of random writing to the hdd.

Sweet, new ATI drivers! Halo @ 120FPS here I come!
[/sarcasm]

[Laslo Panaflex]

Everything running great here, 2gig G5 with radeon 9600 1.5gigs of ram.

[virividox]

installed repaired permissions

tested out some things they said they fixed, so far so good :D go apple

[Tovarizzle]

1Ghz TiBook, Installed, no issues!

w00t!

[vollspacken]

Addresses an issue that could prevent you from using VPN over a PPTP connection.[/list]

I hope that I can now FINALLY log into my university's VPN-connection with OsX... :mad:

vSpacken

[bousozoku]

It seems a good update, although I forgot to re-boot the second time.

UT2004 was quite a bit smoother, even while running folding@home.

[dombi]

Everything seems to be running well on my PowerBook as well. Apple has definitely done something to the security probelms they have had with Safari before.

The system seems stable, and usable. Great job Apple!

[gekko513]

Installed fine ... Address Book still refuses to show all cards when trying to sort by last name when a person's last name starts with Aa and you use norwegian as your OS language :mad:

[musicpyrite]

NOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Should I restart? My uptime was 13 days and ~11 hours.

Update...

Uptime...

Update...

Uptime...

umm............



UPDATE!!!!!!! Go Apple! Always happe to get an update!

Optimizing volume "The Force": 77% complete

[paulypants]

wow safari and mail both seem faster--nice! :D

[Grimace]

I've played around with it for a while now. No problems that I can see - although I've never had problems with OSX on my PB. :p

[jasonbw]

okay, heres an odd one. on reboot, Setup assistant started and its prompting me to register. I know i reinstalled about a month ago (archieve and import) but it auto-entered a bunch of the info for me (waaay old info i used 2-3 years ago).

[edalzell]

NOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Should I restart? My uptime was 13 days and ~11 hours.


I never understood the fascination with uptime. Who cares how long a machine has been up?

[Veldek]

what build is 10.3.4?

It's Build 7H63.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

wow safari and mail both seem faster--nice! :D

I don't think Safari seems snappier... :(

But mail has really improved, it has never been so responsive... :)

[fishtank22]

MAIL - Remove message from server when deleted from inbox

still does not work on my office machine. how is it that this STILL isnt fixed!?!?!?!?

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Installed fine ... Address Book still refuses to show all cards when trying to sort by last name when a person's last name starts with Aa and you use norwegian as your OS language :mad:

Works just fine on my girlfriends machine, she's still using 10.3.3 Norwegian version, and when we change my last name to starting with Aa the Address Book still shows all entries. Hey it even understood that Aa=Å and placed the entry at the bottom... ;)

PS! On my machine I've got English OS X language, and it places an entry starting with Aa at top, but still shows every card...

[adamjay]

I reset safari, and went to some sites i never go to, plus my bookmarks.
it does appear to be a bit snappier.

xbench scores stay the same. bummer.

i am hoping the mention of improved firewire and usb audio device compatibility makes Native Instrument's Final Scratch 1.5 less bugg-ridden in Panther. They seem to have always protested that the problems are on Apple's end... we'll see i guess, for now i'll still run it in Jaguar via dual-boot.

[spud]

how come, after the update, my safari's still at 1.2 (v123) even?
is there anywhere i can get a standalone update for it?

[ThomasW]

I hope that I can now FINALLY log into my university's VPN-connection with OsX... :mad:

vSpacken

Hey Vollspacken,

das hättest du auch früher haben können, und zwar mit diesem Artikel:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107706

Ich weiß noch nicht, ob das jetzt auch ohne das klappt. Woll'n wirs hoffen.

Grüße aus Münster!

[Bakafish]

It restarted, and a quick test of all applications listed as updated seem to indicate no issues. Safari is noticeably faster though, so maybe Dave and his team introduced the changes Dave mentioned in his blog (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/).

Unfortunately it looks like many of the bug fixes will have to wait for a separate update or (gasp) 10.4 You can see that soft-hyphen, clear:all and friends are not fixed via the test pages.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

how come, after the update, my safari's still at 1.2 (v123) even?
is there anywhere i can get a standalone update for it?

Have you moved Safari out of the Application folder?

I did that once (made a "Web browser"-folder within the Application folder) and the updater didn't find any application in that folder - when I moved them back into the Application folder both Safari and - yuck - IE was updated when I ran Software Update...

[Bakafish]

I never understood the fascination with uptime. Who cares how long a machine has been up?

Especially when his uptime was measured in days... :rolleyes:

[spud]

Have you moved Safari out of the Application folder?

I did that once (made a "Web browser"-folder within the Application folder) and the updater didn't find any application in that folder - when I moved them back into the Application folder both Safari and - yuck - IE was updated when I ran Software Update...

nope. it's right in my applications folder.
maybe this has something to do with it:
a couple weeks back, safari was acting funny and not letting me into certain pages. that was v1.2.1. in order to fix it i had to wipe it and reinstall from apple. when i did this, the latest version i could find was v1.2.
maybe since i don't have 1.2.1, it's not updating me to 1.2.2?
what can i do about this?

[wrldwzrd89]

Grrr...10.3.4 reset my Energy Saver settings - I had to tell my Mac not to go to sleep again. Otherwise, I'm happy with it (so far).

[Achtung_U2]

Downloading...

Hope this fixes the bug where Finder chrashes when I trie to drag and drop more than a couple files from the Desktop to ...anywhere really, even other place at the Desktop...

Wow... I thought I was the only one this was happening to. Sorry it's also happening to you... but, I am glad it's not just on my own set-up.

Like you said.... hope the update fixes this, we shall see. I wonder if Apple is even aware of this problem.

Anyhow.... good luck, take care. Mark ~

[FuzzyBallz]

Muahaha, got in before everybody... Well, been using it for the past 3 hours, I don't see any changes.

[Hemingray]

Wonder if this update fixes the desktop Finder bug with all the drop shadow artifacts under the file names. So far so good!

[ipacmm]

downloading right now on all my mac's

[macridah]

I could breath now, I updated my OS and it didn't go crazy on me after i rebooted. Actually, safari and mail are a bit faster ... woo hoo.

do you think there will be a 10.3.5 before 10.4? I just wanna go straight to 10.4. I'll be going to my first WWDC this year-- maybe I'll get a pre-release 10.4 build since I'm an ADC memeber now.

[boskie]

BO*%£$KS!

Just took my TiBook into get the HD replaced earlier today, it sounded as though the drive platter was rubbing against something - thank God for Target Disk mode... Was hoping to take it to NY with me on Friday and any update/improvement would of been a welcome distraction of tinkering on the plane over.

It also leaves me mac-less for over a week :(

Guess I'll have to hang round the SoHo store more than I thought.

I'll look forward to having a fresh machine when i get back which i will take straight to 10.3.4, that is if the repair center doesn't do it for me...

[uv23]

*grumble* this update is crap. How many times does a person need to submit a critical bug to Apple before it actually gets fixed.

Scenario:
Reply to a received email.
Click on little arrow - note that it pops up your reply.
Move the received email to another folder (as many people do to organize their mail).
Click on little arrow - pull out your hair as ridiculous message pops up saying the reply can't be found.

I have participated in discussions about this and other people have also submitted the bug, as far back as the beginning of the year, with no results. :mad:

[musicpyrite]

I never understood the fascination with uptime. Who cares how long a machine has been up?

You'll learn that alot of things aren't done for practically, rather for bragging rights.

For example, I'v though of overclocking my 15 MHz TI-83 Silver calculator. What use does this serve? Two things: the ability to say 'I overclocked my calculator' the oter reason I've thought of this is so that when I make a BASIC program on it, it will run the program faster - I really need that when I'm running GUI games on it.

Just think, my calculator rivials the worlds first computers.
15 MHz processor
1.54 MB of flash memory
24,000 K of RAM
The ability to run GUI operating systems. (There are progs that let you emulate windows xp on my calc.)


Does anybody have/use Shape Shifer, because when I restarted, it gave me an error message saying something like 'Shape Shifter does not support this version of Mac OS X' (or something to that extent).

I can't stand the default OS X theme, if Shape Shifter doesn't work in 10.3.4 I'm serously considering going back to 10.3.3.


:mad:

[Fat Tony]

Is it just me or do the colours of Safari (the brushed metal) and the aqua blue colour that appears when you browse a drop down menu or something, suddenly seem different?

I agree. First thing I noticed.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

nope. it's right in my applications folder.
maybe this has something to do with it:
a couple weeks back, safari was acting funny and not letting me into certain pages. that was v1.2.1. in order to fix it i had to wipe it and reinstall from apple. when i did this, the latest version i could find was v1.2.
maybe since i don't have 1.2.1, it's not updating me to 1.2.2?
what can i do about this?

Hmm... then I'm not sure, it can have something to do with ownership and/or permissions, so the standard reply anybody gets here on the forums: Fix permissons with Disc Utility, might actually fix this (IF it is an owner/permisson issue...)

[gekko513]

Works just fine on my girlfriends machine, she's still using 10.3.3 Norwegian version, and when we change my last name to starting with Aa the Address Book still shows all entries. Hey it even understood that Aa=Å and placed the entry at the bottom... ;)

PS! On my machine I've got English OS X language, and it places an entry starting with Aa at top, but still shows every card...
Yes, it places the Aa entry correctly at the bottom, but here it doesn't show the card when you click it. On my two Macs (one 10.3.3 and one 10.3.4) it just shows the very first persons card instead. Maybe try changing a different person. :confused:

[johnnyjibbs]

Safari and Mail are unbelievably quicker! Scrolling on a webpage is now silky smooth.

Have they changed the default coloursync profile? There's no mention of this in the documentation when I scanned through but everything looks distinctly more blue. When I tried to alter the profile myself once (to get rid of the washed out look) I also made it look blue, and so reverted back to the default. It's almost as if the pinstripes are slightly more prominent again also, but I may just be imagining it.

Everything seems very snappy - the dock magnification has gone crazy (like a zillion frames per second) and changing views in Address Book is much quicker.

Overall, no problems yet. OS X keeps getting better and better!

[adamfilip]

Up and running 10.3.4 :)

Finder seems a bit snappier... :)

Safari has no (obvious) new features. They really need to add some more control in managing different kinds of plug-ins and other security settings.

Has anybody tried if Safari handles Java content better...?

I would say yes , One site i frequent often has a java manu that never worked properly but now does with 10.3.4!

YES!

[Cloatus]

So I'm back to Aqua...until the themes are updated.

[mklos]

*grumble* this update is crap. How many times does a person need to submit a critical bug to Apple before it actually gets fixed.

Scenario:
Reply to a received email.
Click on little arrow - note that it pops up your reply.
Move the received email to another folder (as many people do to organize their mail).
Click on little arrow - pull out your hair as ridiculous message pops up saying the reply can't be found.

I have participated in discussions about this and other people have also submitted the bug, as far back as the beginning of the year, with no results. :mad:

You think your the only person in the world who posts bugs! Apple probably gets Millions of "potential" bug reports everyday. They can't possibly read all of them and please everyone.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Yes, it places the Aa entry correctly at the bottom, but here it doesn't show the card when you click it. On my two Macs (one 10.3.3 and one 10.3.4) it just shows the very first persons card instead. Maybe try changing a different person. :confused:

Highly amusing... when the last name on my card was starting with Aa, everything worked fine, but when we changed that back and tried with another card it behaved just as you describe... :confused:

These kinds of bugs is why I'm using English as my OS language, even if I am Norwegian... ;)

[musicpyrite]

So I'm back to Aqua...until the themes are updated.


yea... this is slightly annoying, i cant stand the default them, its so boing...

[eyeluvmyimac]

Hope this fixes the bug where Finder chrashes when I trie to drag and drop more than a couple files from the Desktop to ...anywhere really, even other place at the Desktop...
I thought it was just me! Thank god! At least I know it's not just my OS that is screwy :rolleyes:
Yeah I know, but the Drag'n'drop-bug is the only one that really annoys me... ;)

Oh wow, i thought it wass just me, this bug has been pissing the heck out of me lately, and I JUST did a completely fresh install of OSX so I don't know what would have caused it. Looks like they may have fixed it though from the docs, have yet to DL and test it though...are yours fixed?

[Rower_CPU]

So I'm back to Aqua...until the themes are updated.

Saft is broken, too - should need a minor tweak for compatibility.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I would say yes , One site i frequent often has a java manu that never worked properly but now does with 10.3.4!

YES!

Cool... thanks... my girlfriend, who is a webdesigner, will be very pleased, as this is a thing that has annoyed her for a LONG time, now... :)

[Falleron]

Works fine for me.

[bousozoku]

Wonder if this update fixes the desktop Finder bug with all the drop shadow artifacts under the file names. So far so good!

Doesn't it usually take several hours for those to appear?

They were fixed with 10.3.3 for my dual G4/800. Hopefully, they have it figured out now.

[chasingapple]

2 flawless installs of it on our Macs, Safari is much faster as is mail, no problems at all to speak of. Im happy :)

[uv23]

You think your the only person in the world who posts bugs! Apple probably gets Millions of "potential" bug reports everyday. They can't possibly read all of them and please everyone.
It has nothing to do with pleasing me. It has everything to do with making their software actually work.

[thogs_cave]

So far, no problems with the update. All of my applications work as expected, no shell scripts broke, and my NFS automounts all still work.

It's quiet... too quiet...

[nsb3000]

You'll learn that alot of things aren't done for practically, rather for bragging rights.

For example, I'v though of overclocking my 15 MHz TI-83 Silver calculator. What use does this serve? Two things: the ability to say 'I overclocked my calculator' the oter reason I've thought of this is so that when I make a BASIC program on it, it will run the program faster - I really need that when I'm running GUI games on it.

Just think, my calculator rivials the worlds first computers.
15 MHz processor
1.54 MB of flash memory
24,000 K of RAM
The ability to run GUI operating systems. (There are progs that let you emulate windows xp on my calc.)


Screw Windows XP, we need a OS X emulater for the Ti-83! :D

[Rower_CPU]

Hmmm...unexpected quit in Safari just now - haven't had one of those in a long time....

[Biker21098]

Just installed on G3 350MHz OC to 400MHz No problem
G4 ALPb 1.25 GHz with 1.5 GB Ram Airport is better, no problems
G4 SP450MHz had blue screen freeze on restart, then on forced shutdown and powerup, no displays at all, (Radeon 8500), then did forced restart, No problems since. Wokrs fine. Prob just a quirky issue. So many apps and Hardware things. MAIL is amazinly fast. Safari is as well, but less noticable specially on these old machines. Happy with Apple today. Now if OWC will just ship my PowerLogix Dual 1.2GHz upgrade i'd be really happy. :)

[Blue Moon]

I reeeally hope that this clears up the problems with Powerbooks not reconnecting their Airports after sleep. This seems to be pretty widespread on machines with over 1GB RAM after the last Airport update... we'll see!

d.

Nope.

[Doctor Q]

Server update is out, tooIs there a separate Knowledge Base article with the details about the changes in Mac OS X 10.3.4 Server?

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Is there a separate Knowledge Base article with the details about the changes in Mac OS X 10.3.4 Server?

Yes, here (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107923)...

[dogcowx]

No more having my stickings moving around on their own, overlapping each other! HOORAY! :)

[motulist]

When will iCal finally get an update? it's long overdue, I was hoping it would've been update on the next release, but I guess I'll have to grumble some more.

[eyeluvmyimac]

Hmmm...unexpected quit in Safari just now - haven't had one of those in a long time....

Crap, i just got 2 in a row as well...hope this doesnt mean anything lol

[MacSlut]

Saft is broken, too - should need a minor tweak for compatibility.

Saft gave me the usual generic warning that it may not be compatible. I selected "Try anyway" and it seems to be working just fine.

[Rower_CPU]

Saft gave me the usual generic warning that it may not be compatible. I selected "Try anyway" and it seems to be working just fine.

Good to know - I'll give it a shot. :)

[MacDawg]

Everything good for me too... and Safari has significant speed improvement. I usually don't notice too much.

Still can't use Safari for bill pay with Wachovia Bank. Any ideas why?? I have to use Explorer, but that is the only site I visit that gives me any trouble.

[pgwalsh]

Everything good for me too... and Safari has significant speed improvement. I usually don't notice too much.

Still can't use Safari for bill pay with Wachovia Bank. Any ideas why?? I have to use Explorer, but that is the only site I visit that gives me any trouble.Just a shot in the dark, but there's some XUL sites I have had trouble with... Seems to only work in IE and not safari or mozilla.

[The Red Wolf]

Installed the new update the moment I found out. I rather enjoy the idea of burning my hands on the vivid fire of new updates despite the track record. What is it... 98.2% good? Two bad... Who cares. If you've not backed up in this digital age you should. Whatever way gets you there do it.

As for 10.3.4: Classic System folder updated. Safari is faster (still will not log into the designed on Mosaic only for Explorer internal company pages, Firefox will, well sort of). Mail is quite nice. Nothing crashed or burned, or caught on fire and became cinder or anything else resembling flames and destruction. Slight visual changes to Apple application interfaces. A personal favorite, spell checking stickies on the fly. A successful update. So, what's that 98.7% good? (numbers are fictional of course)

[achmafooma]

No more having my stickings moving around on their own, overlapping each other! HOORAY! :)
No kidding! I've been waiting for a usable version of Stickies since Panther came out. It's a shame they haven't added new features to it (like, uh, iSyncing them into the iPod [although 'iPod It' does this nicely] and Palm OS devices).

But is it just me, or did the Stickies version number jump from 3.0 to 4.2?

I forgot to confirm the previous version number before updating all my Macs, but Stickies on my one remaining Jaguar machine is version 2.0. I'm pretty sure that the Panther version has been 3.0.

After today's update it's 4.2.

That's a pretty hefty version jump for "Stickies no longer writes to the hard drive every five minutes" and fixing the long-standing positioning bug.

Maybe I'm imagining things and there never was a Stickies 3.0 ... straight from 2 to 4. Stranger things have been known to happen in the Apple universe ;-)

[Wonder Boy]

i'm going to wait till friday to update.no real reason ecxept i 'm not a "first one in the pool" kinda guy.

[invaLPsion]

AIM and AAO have both crashed on me since I updated. They never did this before... :confused: :mad: :(

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

i'm going to wait till friday to update.no real reason ecxept i 'm not a "first one in the pool" kinda guy.

So you wait until everybody else has been in the pool...? :rolleyes:
Don't you know how many gross things people can do in a pool...? :D

Edit: Ok, I'm really getting off topic here... time to crash, its 2AM here in Norway...

[TorbX]

Quote myself: STOP RUNNING, YOU STUPID FAN!!!

Case: PB 12" rev a 867. "It just keeps going, and going, and going, and going..."

[bryanc]

I've now updated on an antique G4 350, three powerbooks, and a 1.8GHz G5, all without any problems. Permission Repair found three broken permissions (why does this happen? It's certainly no big deal, but why can't Apple make their own OS updates follow their permission settings?)

Mail is definately faster. Safari seems somewhat snappier, but that could be me paying more attention to the fact that Safari is simply a very fast browser :-)

Cheers

[sabbath999]

No kidding! I've been waiting for a usable version of Stickies since Panther came out. It's a shame they haven't added new features to it (like, uh, iSyncing them into the iPod [although 'iPod It' does this nicely] and Palm OS devices).

But is it just me, or did the Stickies version number jump from 3.0 to 4.2?

I forgot to confirm the previous version number before updating all my Macs, but Stickies on my one remaining Jaguar machine is version 2.0. I'm pretty sure that the Panther version has been 3.0.


Still have not updated, my stickies is v.n. 3.0

[Colonel Panik]

But is it just me, or did the Stickies version number jump from 3.0 to 4.2?

As of 10.3.3, Stickies is Version 3.

[h'biki]

I never understood the fascination with uptime. Who cares how long a machine has been up?

Well, after OS 9 any uptime beyond four hours is good*. To the point where we want to see how far we can push it.

*Though my Centris 650 when used as a internet gateway/router was up for weeks at a time. It was/is, however, running System 7.5.

[Bakafish]

The Safari in 10.3.4 contains only a handful of fixes and is no faster than previous versions.

Posted by hyatt at May 26, 2004 03:02 PM

So we can expect a newer version of Safari in the future that should be much improved.

[barnett25]

For those who said Safari's brushed metal and blue highlighted menus looked as though they're a different color... I took screenshots before and after updating to 10.3.4- nothing changed for me.

Here's before then after...

[achmafooma]

Still have not updated, my stickies is v.n. 3.0
As of 10.3.3, Stickies is Version 3.
That's what I thought.

Any idea why a Stickies app. with one documented bug fix, one undocumented (but very welcome) bug fix, and one change in features (now we can 'check spelling as you type' in our Stickies) would bring it from 3.0 to 4.2?

The app. is essentially unchanged. It seems to be a 3.1 release to me. Even if they were going to bump up the version number, why 4.2? What happened to 4.0 and 4.1?

[Doga]

Installed the 10.3.4 update on my DP 2 Ghz G5 a few minutes ago.

But after restarting there was an issue with ThermographX - I got an error message saying that it "couldn't find any compatible thermal sensors" and no temperature info was displayed.

The version of ThermographX I was running was 1.2.3 - I upgraded to version 1.2.4 and it works normally again, no error message.

Apart from that, no issues, everything seems just fine...

[Acoustica]

Is anyone having difficulty connecting to the www.mac.com server after the update? I can't check mail or access iChat/MSN Messenger as well because they're all tied in to my @mac.com e-mail.

[JohnGillilan]

Any audio people know of any compatibility issues with 10.3.4 and ProTools?? I'm currently running PT 6.4. Sometimes OS X updates can be devistating to ProTools. . .

[centauratlas]

Still can't use Safari for bill pay with Wachovia Bank. Any ideas why?? I have to use Explorer, but that is the only site I visit that gives me any trouble.

Hi,
It works fine (and has worked fine) for me. What is Safari saying? Where does it stop working? I've done it successfully on a iMac 1ghz, dual G4 800, G4 867, and a 1.5ghz PB with every version of Safari from 1.0 and whatever version of Mac OS X that has been out since it. (I just say that to illustrate the variety here, plus a friend uses an older iBook.)

Perhaps we can figure out why it would work for me and not you. I have Java, Javascript and plug-ins active. I enter it from the "http://www.wachovia.com/myaccounts/" page.

Does the other stuff (e.g. OneStop, brokerage, banking) work for you?

What URL does it try to send you to with Bill Pay?
(It does work with IE and Mozilla too, by the way. I just tried them too.)

[krimson]

You'll learn that alot of things aren't done for practically, rather for bragging rights.

For example, I'v though of overclocking my 15 MHz TI-83 Silver calculator.

...


LOL I almost died just now.. I have a ti-85 i wouldn't mind bumping up, but im afraid of the extra heat production. ;)

installed a few hours back, seems to be snappier.

[Mojo The Monkey]

Is it just me or do the colours of Safari (the brushed metal) and the aqua blue colour that appears when you browse a drop down menu or something, suddenly seem different?

I noticed this too, on my G3 900 iBook. The calibration of my display was way, way off.

I recalibrated, and it is fine now.

[musicpyrite]

LOL I almost died just now.. I have a ti-85 i wouldn't mind bumping up, but im afraid of the extra heat production. ;)

yea... I've got a spare Pentium 90MHz chip lying around here some where, I was thinking about that ( :eek: :D :cool: ). Just put that bad boy onto a mother board, hook up a color LCD screen +ram+video card+USB, and you've just made the worlds fastest calculator. The only reason I have a Silver is so I can run heavy apps on it. I use my TI-86 for the real math, it's slightly better (except the proc speed) and has more functions/equasions.

Has anybody experinced any problems running their iDisk? I can't seem to get mine to connect; I'll try again later...

[imaswitcheryeah]

hey mate, I don't think this is a bug, i think its just you, I never have problems with the finder and drag and drop. You might need to fix your system.

I have also had this problem since upgrading to Panther. So have a few of my friends.

[Acoustica]

Has anybody experinced any problems running their iDisk? I can't seem to get mine to connect; I'll try again later...

Looks like all .Mac things like mail and iDisk aren't working, and since I use my .mac e-mail, my iChat isn't working either. :(

[SillyWillyBob]

Scenario:
Reply to a received email.
Click on little arrow - note that it pops up your reply.
Move the received email to another folder (as many people do to organize their mail).
Click on little arrow - pull out your hair as ridiculous message pops up saying the reply can't be found.

Is there a Preference setting for this?
When I click on my arrows, nothing happens... :confused:


G4 eMac 1G 10.3.3
iMac Snow 500 10.2.8
9600 G3/500 10.2.8
8550 G3/266 10.2.8
Umax C500 8.6
Classic II 7.5.3

[gandalf55]

iDisk is faster than ever for me... strange some think its slow or unavailable.

[dudemac]

Someone please confirm that this is new. I used to be able to stack my stickies and have them separate when using exposé, but now if the stickies are the same color, they just show that color and not a separate sticky for each one that is open. So if I have 3 yellow stickies stacked or not when I use exposé I only see one yellow sticky with no title or name or anything.

It worked before the update now it makes stickies even more useless.
Oh well.

At least everything else seems to work better.

:(

[Elektronkind]

Everything is good here on a 2x2Ghz G5 with 20" ACD.

Tho, it does seem the frame rate in Halo took it in the nose a little bit. Anyone notice this, too? This is with the stock ATI 9600 vid card.

/dale

[Powerbook G5]

They aren't kidding about the improved OpenGL and ATI performance, I just bumped up the particle density on the screen effect I am using as my desktop background by nearly 20% but it is running faster than before on 10.3.3.

Login and logout are insanely fast now, as well as loading the Finder in the beginning. This is awesome.

[azdude]

nope. it's right in my applications folder.
maybe this has something to do with it:
a couple weeks back, safari was acting funny and not letting me into certain pages. that was v1.2.1. in order to fix it i had to wipe it and reinstall from apple. when i did this, the latest version i could find was v1.2.
maybe since i don't have 1.2.1, it's not updating me to 1.2.2?
what can i do about this?

3 Pages of posts later, and nobody's responded. :D

I'd suggest you use the 10.3.4 Combo Updater found here:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxcombinedupdate.html

[squall1]

everything seems ok on my machine, PB 12" 1.33

[runeasgar]

Never without ways to make things better, Apple has done a doozy with this one.

Safari is absolutely amazing, it was already incredibly fast, now it boggles the mind. Not only that, but the M-Audio Audiophile USB unit that I have been having continous problems with appears to work flawlessly now (of course it still needs more testing).

The entire OS seems slightly faster, including finder. I had many problems with the multiple file drag and drog with Apple. I solved them a while ago when I overwrote the OS.

For those of you who seem to have out-of-the-way problems on systems where other people do not report the same problem, or where only a handful of people report the problem, be sure to run an archive and install. In my experience Apple machines typically come with bad installations and the OS seems a a little finicky about being installed. After archiving and installing most of a large number of problems I was having were solved.

I really don't have any complaints about this upgrade. Apple solved many, many problems I was having by releasing this. I'm looking forward to testing the Network improvements, as I work at a design firm that is 95% Mac, and I use the networking assets of OS X constantly.

I think the only things I'm looking for in a new upgrade are the following:
1) Actually make iChat-AIM Audio/Video conferencing work. My iChat doesn't even display the option to connect.
2) The Dock/Brightness Button/Random problem really.. really needs to be solved. It is exceedingly annoying.
3) iChat has some serious problems with identities. I had a friend who was at home, but was away at his screenname at home. He left himself online at work where, for whatever reason, he never went idle. iChat absolutely REFUSED to allow me to message his home screenname. I tried rearranging the names in the Info window and in Address Book, nothing worked. I've noticed some other identity problems as well. I'm looking for a window that pops up to ask me which screenname I want to message, I think that would work well, similiar to the way that they ask you what form of chat you want to have if you click on someone who has audio/visual/textual capabilities.

That's a short list? Isn't it?

Anyway, hooray for Apple. :cool:

[ibookin']

Updating now. I don't expect there will be problems.

Oh yeah, and I have a TI-89. No need to overclock that baby.

[ingenious]

how come, after the update, my safari's still at 1.2 (v123) even?
is there anywhere i can get a standalone update for it?

Safari (http://apple.com/safari)

[PHARAOHk]

I too was having problems dragging and dropping multiple items. I reinstalled but did not install mouseworks (mouse driver for kensington mouse) and haven't seen that problem since. Maybe a clue?

[~Shard~]

For what it's worth, just updated my 1.25 GHz 17" iMac and she's running fine - faster login/logout times (at least it seems that way), and Safari seems to be running smoother too. Of course, it could just be me... ;)

Anyway, no problems or complications at all to report on my end of things!

[patto]

In case anyone is interested, here are the before & after version numbers for the applications listed as updates in the description for 10.3.4:

Stickies: 3.0->4.2
Safari: 1.2.1->1.2.2
Mail: 1.3.7->1.3.8
Address Book: 3.1.1->3.1.2
QT: 6.5.1->unchanged

Quicktime is the only app whose version number is the same.

Also, regarding the strange Stickies version bump-up, some people have said that one of the few new features available is Check Spelling As You Type. Well, I was able to do that under 10.3.3 :confused:

[ingenious]

For those who said Safari's brushed metal and blue highlighted menus looked as though they're a different color... I took screenshots before and after updating to 10.3.4- nothing changed for me.

Here's before then after...


I'm not on 10.3.4 yet, cuz my PB's @ school, but I beg to differ after looking at your photos. The pinstripes look more prominent and the blue and metal have something different about them. Can't quite name it yet though.

[whyrichard]

My stickies no longer work...

app says it is version 2.1

i checked and repaired permissions... is there anything else i can do?

very strange... i have alot of info in my stickies!!!
help!


r.


edit: never mind i fixed it. copied the stickies program from another updated computer and it works fine. for some reason stickies did not update on my computer, a brand new ibook.

it works i'm happy.

[runeasgar]

The pinstriping seems a little more prominent, as it was virtually unnoticable before. I don't notice any change in colors though.. Seems the same as it was before.

Anyone care to compare color values?
Two colors each (due to striping)

RGB - 48,100,178 and 49,100,179
HEX - 3064B2 and 3164B3
CMYK - 78,49,7,0 and 77,48,7,0

Those are the values I see now, can anyone get the values for the previous version?

[poiesb]

I just installed 10.3.4 and now fonts on my system seem to be double thinkness when text is bolded. I know it sounds weird, but if a font is bold (ie: the headlines in white with a red background at the home of this site) it appears extra bold and a little fuzzy. I can't figure out how to undo it and I can't stand it! Anyone else have this problem? or how to fix it? thanx in advance.

[Diatribe]

Awsome. This resolved many of the issues I had with iSync and backup. Really nice. A couple of more problems gone. Now I really have to look for things that annoy me ;)
No, seriously, kudos to Apple for consistently improving this OS. That's one reason I switched too.

[fBaran]

x.x.4 is amazing. It cured my 5 whitespots I just called in to get fixed this afternoon! No snappier-ness, but no problems. Finder searches _seem_ less laggy.

[BaDBoY]

just installed, no problems here... another great update... safari DOES feel snappier

[dgoss]

So, I've still got the new problem from a few weeks back with the Airport disconnecting when waking from sleep. I keep seeing references to this on Apples support boards, etc. with strange links to this problem and machines with over 1GB RAM - (17" 1.5Ghz 1.5GB)

Well, I'd love for that one to get fixed before long - this update is nice otherwise!

d.

[guifa]

I'm not on 10.3.4 yet, cuz my PB's @ school, but I beg to differ after looking at your photos. The pinstripes look more prominent and the blue and metal have something different about them. Can't quite name it yet though.

I don't know how they can be more prominent when they're identical :)

Graphic Converter's Compare Pictures function is nice. The blue menus give the same yellow hue in the comparison, so they are the same. The brushed metal is the same, though seen with some light gray in the comparison: the GIF compressed images that were sent dithered slightly differently. In fact, the lettering and images for snap back differ more than the brushed metal. See attached image (black = perfectly the same, white = perfectly different)

[JFreak]

Quicktime is the only app whose version number is the same.

is there something wrong in my installation, because the finder (about) shows version 10.3.1 and not the 10.3.4 that can be seen in "about this mac".

[bryanzak]

*grumble* this update is crap. How many times does a person need to submit a critical bug to Apple before it actually gets fixed.

Scenario:
Reply to a received email.
Click on little arrow - note that it pops up your reply.
Move the received email to another folder (as many people do to organize their mail).
Click on little arrow - pull out your hair as ridiculous message pops up saying the reply can't be found.
Critical? What part of that bug is critical? Or perhaps your definition of critical is significantly different than mine?


I have participated in discussions about this and other people have also submitted the bug, as far back as the beginning of the year, with no results. :mad:
Do you have a Radar bug number to track?

Also, you do realize that software updates are not intended to fix all bugs? There's a very rigorous process within Apple to determine what makes it into a software update.

Personally, I'm fine with the software updates being truly critical bugs, regressions (regression are treated as very serious issues by Apple) and blocking bugs that hamper use of certain technologies or applications.

Bugs that are cosmetic in nature or not-so-critical rarely make it into software updates. That wouldn't be bad except that the only way then to get fixes for these minor bugs is to pay to upgrade to the next major release each time. I'd like to see Apple offer deep discounts to people for the next release after the one they purchase. So, everyone that purchase Panther can get Tiger for $39. Anyone that pays full price for Tiger can get 10.5 for $39 and so on.

[me_94501]

is there something wrong in my installation, because the finder (about) shows version 10.3.1 and not the 10.3.4 that can be seen in "about this mac".
No. I'm still on 10.3.3, but on Finder version 10.3. The Finder versions don't match up to the OS version number.

[Darwin]

Just installed 10.3.4, so far everything looks good :)

[JFreak]

No. I'm still on 10.3.3, but on Finder version 10.3. The Finder versions don't match up to the OS version number.

i think that's stupid. i mean, well, they don't have to change the finder with every release but when they do, there's nothing to lose by naming the finer according to the os release number - so going from 10.3 to 10.3.4 wouldn't hur anyone but would tell instantly when the finder was last updated.

is it just me? i think that there shouldn't be a 10.3.1 finder in a 10.3.4 os release. the numbers should match, because, after all the finder is a core part of the macintosh gui.

[Windowlicker]

hehe.. i just had nice time installing the update and correcting permissions on 10 computers :) i love these mornings. dunno why, maybe i'm just such a nerd who enjoys small things. :rolleyes:

[Flo_Munich]

I'm very happy with this update!
If i wake up my 15" PB from sleep, it reconnects to the WLAN AP (non-apple) in seconds- no way before. Maybe I've bought not enough RAM to have the error anymore ;-)

If I change my location (working a lot with this feature..) it takes nearly no time to enable/disable WLAN etc.. up to a minute before.
And, Safari feels really better now.

[mj_1903]

*grumble* this update is crap. How many times does a person need to submit a critical bug to Apple before it actually gets fixed.

Scenario:
Reply to a received email.
Click on little arrow - note that it pops up your reply.
Move the received email to another folder (as many people do to organize their mail).
Click on little arrow - pull out your hair as ridiculous message pops up saying the reply can't be found.

I have participated in discussions about this and other people have also submitted the bug, as far back as the beginning of the year, with no results. :mad:

I know the team knows the bug (I notified them of it days after Panther was released). They need to make some changes to the mbox file format first, which will take some time and testing.

There are other more urgent bugs that the Mail team needs to address though.

[cb911]

The pinstriping seems a little more prominent, as it was virtually unnoticable before. I don't notice any change in colors though.. Seems the same as it was before.

Anyone care to compare color values?
Two colors each (due to striping)

RGB - 48,100,178 and 49,100,179
HEX - 3064B2 and 3164B3
CMYK - 78,49,7,0 and 77,48,7,0

Those are the values I see now, can anyone get the values for the previous version?

hhmmm.... interesting.

well i'm still on 10.3.3, so i did a quick check of the pinstriping colours.

the lighter colour in the striping (RGB values): 244, 244, 244
the darker colour in the stripes (RGB): 238, 238, 238

ssooo... that's quite a big difference to what you say they are in 10.3.4. i'm hoping this can't be right, because i like them really subtle, well, not that i'm ever using the default Aqua theme very much. ;) also, here's some pictures of the difference in colour that i'm talking about. is this the part of the UI that you're refering to?

[ghoman]

I know this is not the end of the world, but the 10.3.4 upgrade has brought HALO to a crawl on my 1.25ghz iMac. Under 10.3.3 it ran fine in single and multiplayer mode. I can only assume this is due to the video driver update and hope a new patch from Macsoft/Bungie will fix it, but I thought I would share if there is someone out there who will "JUST DIE DAMMIT!" if they can't play HALO anymore. :)

[iHack]

I never understood the fascination with uptime. Who cares how long a machine has been up?

Well, with me it's due to trauma sustained from working with Windows for too long. The though of my windows uptime .....

Now, or just a few minutes ago:

9:15AM up 49 days, 7:48, 1 user, load averages: 0.58, 0.25, 0,10

yeah, bragging right play a part as well.

[Reuven]

Dowloaded the update in 16 seconds flat! Damn that was fast.

So far I can only pick up that Safari runs much quicker! :D :D

[Mord]

Ya, you never know with updates these days. I think I will wait a bit before installing to here more reports from other users.

has there every been a really bad os x update?

(i have oinly had trouble with 10.2.3 on my cube it kp'd before i got to log in)

[cb911]

and what's up with people posting the percentage of optimization completed? WTH do i want to know that? :rolleyes: and we dont' really care what you've named you Panther boot volume either... :rolleyes:

as for uptime, i dont' mind seeing that... as long as it's a decent time.

iHack, that's a fairly decent uptime, is that on a work machine, or just one that you surf the net on at home. i can hardly ever get a good uptime on my PB, seems to always need a restart for some reason.

[apelet]

I just installed 10.3.4 without any problems, except for one. The icon for CD and DVD in System Preferences has disappeared. It still says CD and DVD (or whatever it is in English, I have the language set to Japanese), but the space above it is blank. I've checked permissions, but still nothing.

Anyone else have this problem?

[JFreak]

I just installed 10.3.4 without any problems, except for one. The icon for CD and DVD in System Preferences has disappeared.

repair permissions

[MacQuest]

Safari is fast as hell now... esp. bookmark menus dropping and rendering pages!

You said it brother!

WOOHOO!!! :D

[billyboy]

I just installed 10.3.4 without any problems, except for one. The icon for CD and DVD in System Preferences has disappeared. It still says CD and DVD (or whatever it is in English, I have the language set to Japanese), but the space above it is blank. I've checked permissions, but still nothing.

Anyone else have this problem?

Ditto repair permissions. This update has solved a niggle whereby launching System Preferences would make the whole system stutter for a second. Now it feels wierd to launch it and be able to move the mouse to the appropriate icon straightaway!

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

has there every been a really bad os x update?

(i have oinly had trouble with 10.2.3 on my cube it kp'd before i got to log in)

Well...

10.2.8 was notoriously bad...

and 10.3.0 really played havoc with the preferances of those who started using Filevault...

Apart from this the updates has been harmless, but I think those two is lurking in the back of a couple of minds... ;)

[Trowaman]

Where I am it is currently 3:30 a.m. and I'm ready for sleep, time to let the download start now, should be done when I wake up (maybe). Diial-up is so . . . odd?

[nesbitt_a]

No problems here.

:)

[frenetic]

Installed it and no problems whatsoever. I don't really notice the speed increase some people claim to be experiencing in mail or safari, but they were fast to start with.

Panther really is finished now, I think.

[MacQuest]

-- maybe I'll get a pre-release 10.4 build since I'm an ADC memeber now.

Sorry. They only give those to ADC members, not "memebers". :D ;)

:o I know. I suck. :(

[stevehaslip]

argh! i just installed and noticed that it included updated graphics drivers... now 1152x864 at 75 hz has disappeared!!!!
it only lets me have it at 68hz which kills my eyes!!! now i either have to have 1024x768:( or 1280x960:s. im only using a 17" crt monitor for graphic design and stuff. and now everythings either too big or too small!!

i thought it was only a matter of time before 1152 got dropped! its not really as widely used as the others i dont think, but it was perfect for my monitor!:S i dont want to revert to 10.3.3, anyone think of a fix?

on the plus side, safari kicks ass now! and finder is even more snappy!

[benny.c]

my external usb drive now mounts again :D

[rdowns]

:mad:

Couldn't sleep so I decided to update my G3/900 iBook at 4am. Screen went dark during update and when I went to wake it up, got all vertical lines. Let it run for half hour hoping that the update was still running in the background. Restarted and got the "You must restart your computer" error screen.

Almost finished reinstalling 10.3 from original disks. I see a long day of updates ahead.

Doesn't seem to be the iBook logic board problem but we'll see. I'll take it to work to finish all the updates and if problems persist, I'll pop over to the Apple Store to drop it off for repairs. Glad it's only my spare computer.

[cb911]

i am at 89% :p

aaiiieeee!!! i can't take this! http://www.portedmods.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/5bomb.gif

oh well, i'll tell you my Panther boot volumes name. it's 'Panther'. so there. :p

and what about the different colours? can anyone confirm that yet? i'm going to install the update soon... but prolly not reboot yet...

[arby]

Seems to have been a mostly positive response, so I'm gonna install. Unfortunately, my 500Mhz G3 iBook I use for designing websites has been up for 71 days and I'm gonna have to restart. :( But Safari will be faster, and apparently Mail is better! :)

[MacQuest]

back in the NT4 days i had an uptime of 349 days in my workstation. had to break it because i really had to install a scsi adapter into it. that's the most stable system microsoft has ever released.

That's good!

Man, when I was a network administrator for Xerox back in '01 if I didn't re-boot our NT4 server at LEAST once a month our network would crawl and take a dive that would put Olympic diver Greg Louganis to shame.

[edesignuk]

Ok, so everything looks good :cool: No horror stories :D Guess I'll take the plunge when I get home :)

[jihad the movie]

Airport Extreme on my G5 lost a couple of bars with this update, it now hovers at 2/3 when it used to be 3/4. I am 20 feet away from the base station. Pretty upsetting.

[Uragon]

I haven't updated yet, noticed though that the majority says this is a good update but why the "negative" is so high too?

[frenetic]

I've discovered a small bug: when trying to write a cd with disc burner part of the dialog text is garbled. It functions normally though...

[johnnyjibbs]

I didn't realise everyone had some many little problems normally!

I have no problems with any part of my system software. When I was running 10.3.3 everything worked as should. I'm happy that 10.3.4 didn't break anything (that I've found so far) but now everything is yet again so much faster!

I guess I don't have any system changing apps.

[PensDevil]

argh! i just installed and noticed that it included updated graphics drivers... now 1152x864 at 75 hz has disappeared!!!!
it only lets me have it at 68hz which kills my eyes!!! now i either have to have 1024x768:( or 1280x960:s. im only using a 17" crt monitor for graphic design and stuff. and now everythings either too big or too small!!

i thought it was only a matter of time before 1152 got dropped! its not really as widely used as the others i dont think, but it was perfect for my monitor!:S i dont want to revert to 10.3.3, anyone think of a fix?

on the plus side, safari kicks ass now! and finder is even more snappy!

I use SwitchRes X for custom resolutions on my HDTV (connected via DVI). You can find it on Versiontracker. Current version is 3.3.1, and is $15 shareware. After 15 or 30 days it will not allow you to use saved settings without registering. Up until that time it is fully functional.

Another option is DisplayConfigX. It is also shareware ($12). Resolutions are limited until the program is registered, at which time higher resolutions are available. Find it at Versiontracker. Current version is 0.96. I haven't really used this one, as I couldn't test it out with my HDTV resolutions without registering. So I went with SwitchRes.

[iHack]

and what's up with people posting the percentage of optimization completed? WTH do i want to know that? :rolleyes: and we dont' really care what you've named you Panther boot volume either... :rolleyes:

as for uptime, i dont' mind seeing that... as long as it's a decent time.

iHack, that's a fairly decent uptime, is that on a work machine, or just one that you surf the net on at home. i can hardly ever get a good uptime on my PB, seems to always need a restart for some reason.

It's on my work and home machine -- I work at my home office. Most things i do involve M$ office, though, beside itunes, safari, toast etc. Although I sometimes do venture into stuff Fink supplies me with...

People with a use for matlab should check out octave (http://www.octave.org). Almost fully compatible and free software!

[iGary]

Installed it on my work machine yesterday - no problems.

I'll pop it in at home tonight!

[JFreak]

no problems here either. have to try protools before final judgement ;)

[kwajo.com]

Downloading...

Hope this fixes the bug where Finder chrashes when I trie to drag and drop more than a couple files from the Desktop to ...anywhere really, even other place at the Desktop...


OMG yes!! i hated that!! i thought i was the only one suffering

[taylaner]

hi...
updated 30 min ago and tried every program that i have...no problem so far :)

[achmafooma]

Someone please confirm that this is new. I used to be able to stack my stickies and have them separate when using exposé, but now if the stickies are the same color, they just show that color and not a separate sticky for each one that is open. So if I have 3 yellow stickies stacked or not when I use exposé I only see one yellow sticky with no title or name or anything.

It worked before the update now it makes stickies even more useless.
Oh well.

At least everything else seems to work better.

:(
The stickies that aren't appearing are probably set as "Floating Windows," which fade away instead of working with Expose (and, in normal use, stay on top of all the other applications instead of acting like a normal window).

To set the "Floating Window" option, click on the problem sticky and toggle the option in the "Note" menu.

If you still have the problem, then I don't know what to tell you ... it works fine for me.

[achmafooma]

Also, regarding the strange Stickies version bump-up, some people have said that one of the few new features available is Check Spelling As You Type. Well, I was able to do that under 10.3.3 :confused:
lol. I only said that because somebody else mentioned it. It is entirely possible that I just hadn't noticed the option before. I got so annoyed with Stickies 3.0 (the first Panther version) and its bizarre positioning bug that I copied Stickies 2.0 from a Jaguar machine and had been using it instead (it ran fine in Panther).

It's not really a big deal for me either -- most of what goes into Stickies for me is names of albums and books and products that I intend to buy, so I get so many red underlines it's almost silly to have the spell checker turned on...

It occured to me that the new Stickies version number -- 4.2 -- might be a Douglas Adams reference... after all, 42 is the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.

Thus, the strange jump in version numbers may be a sign that STICKIES ARE THE ANSWER and Apple indends to make them the central whiz-bang feature of Tiger (like how Expose was the main feature for Panther) ... either that, or G5 PowerBooks next Tuesday.

;-)

[1macker1]

I was also having this problem, and i posted a thread on it. This is a known problem, so I was told, and the way to fix it is to cut off image preview. I did as the person suggested, and it seems to fix the problem. Give it a try.
I too was having problems dragging and dropping multiple items. I reinstalled but did not install mouseworks (mouse driver for kensington mouse) and haven't seen that problem since. Maybe a clue?

[decksnap]

After update, all my Classic apple menu items have been baleted. Makes me wonder what else it did to the classic system.

[jsw]

...
Just think, my calculator rivials the worlds first computers.
15 MHz processor
1.54 MB of flash memory
24,000 K of RAM
The ability to run GUI operating systems. (There are progs that let you emulate windows xp on my calc.)...

Dude, your calculator DWARFS the world's first computers. And, even if you mean 24K instead of 24,000K, you're still very competitive with 1980's-era computers.

...

Anyway, 10.3.4 runs fine so far (after ~6 hours of use) on my G5 and seems OK (with little real use) on the iMac and G3 PB.

[AssassinOfGates]

Shapeshifter still works (tested with GUiPod, that halo theme, and all of the DSX'es) It does this as a precaution with every OS update, including the last. Why? Because with MAJOR releases the finder layout changes such as the new sidebar.

So go ahead, skin your mac again.

[MacRy]

Just updated. Everything's ok at the minute. Safari much quicker.

[JFreak]

Safari much quicker.

yes, and java also seems to be quicker. i'm not sure if it just "feels" faster, but anyway...

[litosclone]

I've discovered a small bug: when trying to write a cd with disc burner part of the dialog text is garbled. It functions normally though...


That Dialog bug has been there since 10.3, on both my G5 and PB G4.
To bad it wasn't fixed with this new update. :(

[frenetic]

That Dialog bug has been there since 10.3, on both my G5 and PB G4.
To bad it wasn't fixed with this new update. :(

Hey litosclone, I discovered how to solve it: just trash the preference file of disk utility in your library/preferences, and the text box becomes normal again :)

[thecombatwombat]

what are the updates in address book and mail? Is it a performance increase or new functionality?

They fixed a bug in mail that used to irritate me a lot, in the mailboxes drawer. Basically every time you closed and reopened the context menu on a mailbox, a blank entry would appear in the menu.after leaving mail running for days and checking my mail a few times . . . that menu would be huge.

[jsw]

I skimmed but didn't completely read this entire thread, so perhaps this has already been mentioned.

I now notice that the "Open With..." option sometimes doesn't present me with any choices. Meaning that it never shows the submenu of options at all. If I unclick and then reclick (i.e., right or control click on a file, then go to "Open With..."), the options are there.

I've repaired disk permissions and rebooted a couple of times, but to no avail.

This might have nothing to do with 10.3.4, but I just noticed it recently (past hour or so) and hadn't noticed it prior to updating.

[litosclone]

Hey litosclone, I discovered how to solve it: just trash the preference file of disk utility in your library/preferences, and the text box becomes normal again :)


Thanks for the info!

[denm316]

Well it didnt fix my G5 problem, you guys know the one, where all the fans turn on at full blast and it sounds like it is going to take off.

[seraphnyc]

This is the oddest thing. I have been watching this site and the forums for a LONG while now. I have noticed that there are quite a few people that have problems that I have not once run into. I have a Powerbook G4 15" 550mhz, a MDD 867DP Powermac and a B&W Powermac with a 1ghz G4 upgrade in it. Between these 3 macs and the 8 macs I tend to in my office I have not ever come across anything like the problems being described here.

I am a faithful updater (downright OCD) and look on in amazement as users speak of HD failures and crashing Finders etc...

Am I just lucky (11 times over)?

I guess there is no need in saying how the update is working for me. As usually all 11 Macs are just fine (8 at work and 3 at home), no reason for alarm.

S.

[ext]

After 10.3.4 I still can't iSync my Motorola v300 phone through the USB cable.... sucks! :mad:

[runeasgar]

hhmmm.... interesting.

well i'm still on 10.3.3, so i did a quick check of the pinstriping colours.

the lighter colour in the striping (RGB values): 244, 244, 244
the darker colour in the stripes (RGB): 238, 238, 238

ssooo... that's quite a big difference to what you say they are in 10.3.4. i'm hoping this can't be right, because i like them really subtle, well, not that i'm ever using the default Aqua theme very much. ;) also, here's some pictures of the difference in colour that i'm talking about. is this the part of the UI that you're refering to?

I was actually referring to what I thought everyone else was referring to: the blue colors that you get when you mouse over a menu item. =]

[()verBored]

I ran the update without a problem. Downloaded the stand-alone installer from apple's website and ran it. 10.3.3 to 10.3.4 . Worked great.

Unfort I am not at home at the moment, so i can't verify that Safari is "quicker". My one complaint has been not the speed of loading a page, just that scrolling down the page was nowhere near smooth, especially on web pages that are graphic intensive! If this problem is solved with this update, than it is well worth it.

As for other "fixes" - well, I wasn't really complaining with 10.3.3 on my brand new iBook 1 GHZ anyways! Aside from a few glitches here and there (mainly with safari), I have fallen in love with my first MAC. And ths OS is so much fun to use!

:)

[sockgap]

My brand-new dual proc G5 kept freezing after I applied this update. Repairing permissions fixed the problem.

[dontmatter]

damn... the first of those two security updates broke gettunes...don't know if the latest version would still be broken....

gettunes or update, gettunes, or update....

Anybody wanna help me? A debate on the relative merits of the latest, greatest, miniscule OS update (that a lot of people are rating negative....why? is it a bugged update, or just not including bug fixes you want?), vs. a less than legal way of obtaining lots of free music...keep in mind I'm not on a college campus anymore :-(

Or, just tell me that gettunes 2.3.6 is fully compatible with this update :D

[Flo_Munich]

Seems even the Link Quality my built-in Airport Extreme receives is much better..?

[musicpyrite]

I've discovered a small bug: when trying to write a cd with disc burner part of the dialog text is garbled. It functions normally though...

I've also experienced this problem in 10.3.3. It doesn't really bother me, so I'm not going to complain.

[singspiel]

Safari is fast as hell now... esp. bookmark menus dropping and rendering pages!

The apple link regarding this update did not say anything about such improvements to Safari, are you sure it is not a perceived speed boost

[~Shard~]

Maybe I’ve just psyched myself out, but Panther definitely seems to be a little snappier after this upgrade. Geez, what a novel concept, OS upgrades which actually improve system performance! (Yah, I’m talking to you, Gates...) ;) :cool:

[cb911]

I was actually referring to what I thought everyone else was referring to: the blue colors that you get when you mouse over a menu item. =]

ah, ok then. well the blue menu highlight colour i get is RGB 48, 99, 176 or 49, 101, 181 just using the colour picker there seems to be a slight difference in colour even in the same menu highlighted item.

so here's what you found (on the top) compared to me running 10.3.3:

RGB - 48,100,178 and 49,100,179
RGB - 48, 99, 176 and 49, 101, 181

so there might be a slight difference, but i may be getting different values because i'm just using a screenshot of a menu...

well since i have a 10.3.3 screenshot, i might post a 10.3.4 screenshot when i update if there is a big difference.

[evilsprung]

Quote myself: STOP RUNNING, YOU STUPID FAN!!!

Case: PB 12" rev a 867. "It just keeps going, and going, and going, and going..."

All you have to do is rip out the drivers from the previous version where it didn't make your fan keep blowing. Then update to Panter's latest, delete the same drivers, reboot, put the previous version drivers in and reboot.

I did that and i'm running 10.3.3 with the fan acting like it did in 10.3.1

[rockman2023]

Originally Posted by Doctor Q

Improves reliability when selecting several files at a time in Finder at the same time Finder is previewing a movie or MP3 file.


FINALLY they fixed this issue. When you previewed an mp3 or movie file, the Finder would bug out. I dont know why it took this long for them to fix it though.

Optimizing volume....

Software Update should have an Auto-restart feature so you can walk away and have the machine restart automatically when the update is done.

[travishill]

The apple link regarding this update did not say anything about such improvements to Safari, are you sure it is not a perceived speed boost

Yes there aren't speed optimizations directly in Safari, but as has been noted earlier, my machine also like another user's, improved it's text drawing speed in Quartz significantly in 10.3.4- which obviously helps drawing/scrolling speed of something like Safari.

[AoWolf]

:mad:

Couldn't sleep so I decided to update my G3/900 iBook at 4am. Screen went dark during update and when I went to wake it up, got all vertical lines. Let it run for half hour hoping that the update was still running in the background. Restarted and got the "You must restart your computer" error screen.

Almost finished reinstalling 10.3 from original disks. I see a long day of updates ahead.

Doesn't seem to be the iBook logic board problem but we'll see. I'll take it to work to finish all the updates and if problems persist, I'll pop over to the Apple Store to drop it off for repairs. Glad it's only my spare computer.
I also have a 900ibook and when I did the install it gave me the you must restart your computer message as well when I did It only loaded as far as loading user login window and never past that so for me it's back to 10.2.something
:mad: I hate expoler...

[mkrishnan]

Seems even the Link Quality my built-in Airport Extreme receives is much better..?

Hmmm...I downloaded it and a grilled cheese sandwich I had afterwards *definitely* tasted better than it usually does. :)

J/K...actually I'm stuck on dialup and therefore on 10.3.3 for the moment. :(

Now all I need is an update that fixes the goofy way the selection cursor in mail works (what happens when you try to shift-highlight multiple items -- if you try to go back it adds to the other side instead of removing from the side you're on, and how you can't highlight a mail item in the list and start typing to go to a certain part of the current sort-by field, like typing "M" when its sorted by FROM to go to senders starting with M....)

[guiman]

All you have to do is rip out the drivers from the previous version where it didn't make your fan keep blowing. Then update to Panter's latest, delete the same drivers, reboot, put the previous version drivers in and reboot.

I did that and i'm running 10.3.3 with the fan acting like it did in 10.3.1

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How exactly does one go about doing this? Or does anyone have a simpler solution?

Thanks

[Hemingray]

Doesn't it usually take several hours for those to appear?

They were fixed with 10.3.3 for my dual G4/800. Hopefully, they have it figured out now.

Well, of course I spoke too soon... the bug is still there for me. :mad:

[blue&whiteman]

ran the update, all is well.

[rdowns]

I also have a 900ibook and when I did the install it gave me the you must restart your computer message as well when I did It only loaded as far as loading user login window and never past that so for me it's back to 10.2.something
:mad: I hate expoler...

My problem is solved. I reinstalled Panther, installed the few updates (iPod, battery, Java, iCal etc.) and then the combo updater. Worked like a charm.

[fluidinclusion]

I've discovered a small bug: when trying to write a cd with disc burner part of the dialog text is garbled. It functions normally though...

That bug has been there a while. I noticed it long before updating to 10.3.4. It is a shame that they can't allow the text to scroll. It looks really crappy. Most CD's I burn have names long enough to do that.

[ethernet76]

Is there anyway to revert to a previous update? 10.3.4 is giving me all sorts of problems on what use to be a speedy machine.

[WM.]

That's what I thought.

Any idea why a Stickies app. with one documented bug fix, one undocumented (but very welcome) bug fix, and one change in features (now we can 'check spelling as you type' in our Stickies) would bring it from 3.0 to 4.2?

The app. is essentially unchanged. It seems to be a 3.1 release to me. Even if they were going to bump up the version number, why 4.2? What happened to 4.0 and 4.1?
Under 10.3.4, at least for me, Stickies is listed as 3.0 in the Finder and 4.2 in the About box.

I think it's just a mix-up at Apple.

HTH
WM

[evilsprung]

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How exactly does one go about doing this? Or does anyone have a simpler solution?

Thanks
Well I suppse you could try that SilentNight thing that others have claimed have worked for them. And if anyone knows of an easier way then what I did please feel free to add.

Otherwise just go to the System/Library/Extensions of the version that gave you no problems. Copy the AppleADM103x.kext and AppleADT746x.kext into some other folder.

Once you've updated, find the same files, delete them. Reboot, then take the files that you've copied and place them back into System/Library/Extensions and reboot. After that you should get error messages saying OS X can't use the .kext files. To fix that just repair permissions and reboot. It kind of a long process but that's what I did, and it's been quite ever since, unless I do something extremely intensive. Web browsing and simple stuff like that, no sound.

[Paramedic]

Well I was hoping that this latest update of OS and Safari would enable me to do my banking with Citibank. Everything worked on their site with rev 1.2, but with 1.2.1 and this one (1.2.2) I cannot bring up account details. I have reported this to Apple a couple of time and was hoping it would be fixed by now. Oh well, I just have to keep using IE for this site.

After update everything else still seems to be working fine. I do hope the airport recognition after sleep is better though, have not had this update running long enough to tell.

[ingenious]

hehe.. i just had nice time installing the update and correcting permissions on 10 computers :) i love these mornings. dunno why, maybe i'm just such a nerd who enjoys small things. :rolleyes:

:D I love them too! It's like a brand new OS to learn! Well, not really, but real updates like this can feel like it.

[DaBuzz]

...iChat had the forward to mobile phone feature that AIM has. I like using iChat, but it sometimes feel too much like a 1st generation IM client.

Sad thing is, of the big commercial IM clients, iChat is the best. I wish Apple would spend more time developing it and iSight. I just got AT&T's VoIP phone service, and it would be so neat to integrate them.

(BTW...if anyone is considering VoIP phone service...GO FOR IT! I love it!)

[ClimbingTheLog]

MAIL - Remove message from server when deleted from inbox still does not work on my office machine. how is it that this STILL isnt fixed!?!?!?!?

Did you report the bug? Did you complain to your Apple Account's Sales Engineer?

[Teronke]

Has anyone installed the 10.3.4 update on a 12' Rev A Powerbook????

Does it fix the fan issue that started with 10.3.2????

[ClimbingTheLog]

Just a shot in the dark, but there's some XUL sites I have had trouble with... Seems to only work in IE and not safari or mozilla.

IE and safari don't support XUL. Neither does Camino. Mozilla and Firefox do.

[Max Miles]

I read one other post about the desktop and Safari's metal taking on a new hue. I noticed this as well today and checked system preferences. Had to change the profile to "Generic RGB Profile" to get back the old look. Did the update change my profile to the default?

Also, very annoying... My network dialup settings were lost. This is particularly pesky since I have broadband, no dialup, but at work use my firends settings, which he insists on punching in himself. The same thing happened once before after zapping my PRAM.

[ingenious]

Has anyone installed the 10.3.4 update on a 12' Rev A Powerbook????

Does it fix the fan issue that started with 10.3.2????

Yea, it's fixed... It's been fixed since 10.3.3, but then again, it was never a *major* bug for me; 10.3.2's slowness was though!

[DJDisturbed]

Man.. I installed 10.3.4 and now my g5 can see my exquest cd-rw drive.. they do this too me everyother update tht mac sends out.. BAH i say

[fabsgwu]

Just a friendly reminder to dust of Disk Utility and REPAIR YOUR PERMISSIONS. So many people forget to maintain their computers and then blame updates for everything but the kitchen sink ;)

[hi_im_rob]

I did the update and now all my OpenGL games run so slow they are unplayable. Its definitely the update, because I was playing UT2k4 and getting 40fps, now I get less then 10fps immediately after the update less then 1 hour later.

Anyone else get this with UT2k3 and Warcraft 3?

[pgwalsh]

Well it didnt fix my G5 problem, you guys know the one, where all the fans turn on at full blast and it sounds like it is going to take off.That's just part of the G5's personality.. It's letting you know how much power it has and how much you're not using it. :P

[3-22]

Not very impressed with 1.3.4 so far, seems to have broken more then it's fixed. Now I'm having some strange networking issues. DHCP renewal isn't working, had to use a static IP, and I can't browse to my other servers.

Strange stuff... Maybe it needs to "marinate" over night hopefully tomorrow will bring better results.

UPDATE: For kicks-n-giggles I zapped my pram. It did fix some of my issues. (but it could have also just been a coincidence)

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Dual G5 2GHz w/ 1GB

[altair]

mine works perfectly fine and dandy, nothing is broken and safari seems faster.

have never had a problem with any update.

Just thought I would throw this in so people dont think this effects every single person updating.

[jaw04005]

mine works perfectly fine and dandy, nothing is broken and safari seems faster.

have never had a problem with any update.

Just thought I would throw this in so people dont think this effects every single person updating.

Just updated. New powerbook 15.2" 1.5Ghz failed to restart. All I would get is a black screen... no Apple logo. Had to take the battery out three times and let the notebook sit, after about 10 tries pressing the power button, it finally booted on. I haven't restarted since, calling Apple tommorow.

Little irritated to say the least. Ohh and my battery meter reports my battery is completely dead even though its not.

[~Shard~]

Just updated. New powerbook 15.2" 1.5Ghz failed to restart. All I would get is a black screen... no Apple logo. Had to take the battery out three times and let the notebook sit, after about 10 tries pressing the power button, it finally booted on. I haven't restarted since, calling Apple tommorow.

Little irritated to say the least. Ohh and my battery meter reports my battery is completely dead even though its not.

Yikes - well, interesting to hear these kind of reports from users of the brand new machines at least - a good warning for anyone else with new PowerBooks. Good luck on getting that resolved, I feel for ya! :(

[MegaSignal]

Well...

10.2.8 was notoriously bad...

and 10.3.0 really played havoc with the preferances of those who started using Filevault...

Apart from this the updates has been harmless, but I think those two is lurking in the back of a couple of minds... ;)

Just how bad was 10.2.8? ('Cuz I'm still onnit...)

[requies]

Just how bad was 10.2.8? ('Cuz I'm still onnit...)

it was so bad that the 10.2.8 that you're on isn't even the 10.2.8 that they're talking about. it was pulled and reissued. :)